Media Consolidation & Government Regulation | Nov 13, 2025

Summary

Macrodosing Podcast Summary:
Episode: "Media Consolidation & Government Regulation"
Date: November 13, 2025
Hosts: PFT Commenter, Arian Foster, Big T, Mad Dog, Mac
Beat: Media consolidation, streaming wars, quirky asides, sports, and the AI industry

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Episode Overview

This episode of Macrodosing dives deep into the world of media consolidation, streaming platform disputes, and the changing landscape of both sports broadcasting and entertainment. The crew also weighs in with their signature tangents—including politics, college football, the existential dangers of AI, and even their favorite breeds of dogs. The tone is irreverent, debate-heavy, and full of both pop culture and policy analysis.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

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The Current State of Streaming & Media Consolidation

• (102:03 - 137:43)
• Ongoing carriage dispute between YouTube TV and Disney (which owns ESPN, ABC, etc.).
• Many streaming customers confused by overlapping subscriptions due to package bundling.
• Example: Arian Foster inadvertently paid for both Hulu Live and YouTube TV, only noticing when YouTube TV's Disney-owned content blackout hit.
• Discussion transitions into broader media consolidation: only six companies (Disney, News Corp, Comcast, Viacom, Time Warner, Paramount/CBS) now own the vast majority of media properties in the U.S.
• Big T: “There are six companies, media companies that own every single thing you’ve ever heard of.” (136:55)
• Host opinions: Consumers lose when choice diminishes; prices never seem to decrease even as mergers increase.

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Historic Context: How We Got Here

• (137:43 - 139:04)
• Bill Clinton’s Telecommunications Act of 1996 identified as the inflection point allowing these mergers and suppressing competition.
• “[The Act] radically opened the floodgates for mergers...It was the first major reform of telecom since 1934.” (137:55, Big T)
• Consequences included massive corporate media mergers and consolidation of radio stations under companies like Clear Channel/iHeartMedia.
• Deregulation didn't deliver on promises for consumer benefit.

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Carriage Disputes: Then and Now

• (127:00 - 133:54)
• Not a new problem: Past disputes, such as Time Warner vs. Disney (2000) during the “Who Wants to Be a Millionaire” craze also blacked out content. Resolution often follows immediately after public/consumer outcry over missing major programming.
• Example: 2012 dispute between Time Warner and MSG ended after “Linsanity” spiked public demand.
• Modern disputes focus on sports content: Big T notes the significant impact on viewers ("two entire college football slates at this point" missed due to the blackout) and the high daily losses for both sides (Disney losing $4-5M/day).
• Sports leagues’ dependency on distribution deals—but pondering if/when leagues will go fully direct-to-consumer.

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AI and the Future of Art & Media

• (110:32 - 123:27)
• Newly released AI country song “Walk My Walk” by “Breaking Rust” tops a digital sales chart.
• The gang (especially Arian) deeply opposes AI-created art.
  • “Art is our emotional connection to this experience of life that we all share. And we are fucking whoring ourselves out by letting computers mimic it. Fuck them.” (112:39, Arian)
• Discussion about how AI can't generate genuine human emotion/experience.
• Fears that AI will devastate jobs, destroy authentic art, and create a soulless culture.
• Some nuance: Art has always borrowed but intention, emotion, and lived experience cannot be replicated by code.

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Government Involvement with AI

• (124:17 - 126:55)
• OpenAI’s CFO, Sarah Friar, and CEO, Sam Altman, publicly said the US government should backstop the AI chip industry (i.e., provide bailouts if investments go south).
• Panel universally scoffs at the idea, predicting risks of a government-backed AI “bubble.”

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Sports Tangents

• (04:32 - 41:13; 127:37 - 132:42; 132:44 - 135:25)
• Updates on various college football playoff scenarios, with focus on JMU’s playoff hopes and the weirdness of the College Football Playoff committee's "hat ritual."
• College and NFL sports TV rights as linchpin in carriage disputes.
• Fascinating asides about Usain Bolt’s eating habits, training philosophy, and debates over how fast he could run a mile.
• Long discussion on the merits and backgrounds of underappreciated NBA stars, NBA “what-if” players (e.g., Penny Hardaway, Brandon Roy).

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Politics & Culture

• (11:44 - 25:27; 139:13 - 144:50)
• They riff on Trump’s rough political month: questionable interviews, divergence from his base, Epstein email leaks, crossing up his own recent talking points, and even speculation about his health (“Did the new COVID booster turn him into a lib?” 22:03).
• Light-hearted banter on Bill Clinton’s legacy, prowess, and the question of whether presidents are ever single in office.
• Notable quotes:
  • “Donald Trump and the majority of the GOP and the majority of the establishment Democrats are loyal to one thing and one thing only, corporate interests… They don’t care about American workers and they don’t care about wages. All they care about is their profits at their bottom line.” (15:14, Arian)

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Healthcare and Millennial Living Tangents

• (37:46 - 52:40)
• Arian’s personal story on health, blood pressure, and setting goals ("If anybody's out there looking for a sign, this is Big T's lord telling you to go ahead and change your life, man." (39:57)) transitions into banter about younger generations not having a primary care doctor, stigma/shame with doctor visits, and the business opportunity for “almost grown-up doctor” clinics.

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Lighter and Quirky Bits

• (69:07 - 79:46)
• Extended (and humorous) deliberations about red labrador retrievers—differences between “chunkers” and athletic labs, whether to get a male or female, and best names for a dog (“Brewer” wins).
• Various asides: strategies for sunscreen application, debates about whether the penny being discontinued will make it valuable, nostalgia for Toy Story films, and OpenAI’s emergent properties.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On AI-generated Art:

  • “Art is our emotional connection to this experience of life that we all share. And we are fucking whoring ourselves out by letting computers mimic it. Fuck them. That I cannot stand. Art is our… It is our emotional connection to this experience of life.” (112:38, Arian Foster)
  • “AI can't create a new genre. You're just copy-pasting it... I feel so strongly about this.” (115:15, Arian Foster)

• On Media Consolidation:

  • “There are six companies, media companies that own every single thing you’ve ever heard of.” (136:55, Big T)
  • “Bill Clinton signed the Telecommunications act… and radically opened the floodgates for mergers. It was the first major reform of telecommunication policy since 1934...” (137:55, Big T)
  • “Prices never go down. You ever notice that?” (133:54, PFT)

• On streaming and forgotten subscriptions:

  • “I’d be very curious to know the highest amount of money that could be withdrawn from your checking account that you would not notice.” (105:39, Big T to Arian)
  • (On paying $90/month and not noticing) “It would have to be like suspicious activity. Yeah, it would have to be like… 900 a month or something like that.” (106:08)

• On healthcare & young adults:

  • “Do you have a commitment issue? Clearly not—what am I saying?” (On switching doctors, 45:06, Arian to Big T)

• On the end of the penny:

  • “RIP to the penny. The last penny has been minted.” (55:32, PFT)

• On losing the Fairness Doctrine:

  • “It is kind of wild that every channel used to, like, they couldn’t really give an opinion without bringing somebody else on to, like, give the exact opposite opinion.” (147:38, PFT)

• On AI & meaning:

  • “Do AI like the language models… do you think it knows what words mean?” (149:59, Big T)
  • “The way LLMs are written, it’s like the most probable next word here is this.” (150:28, PFT)

• On Trump’s Changing Tan:

  • “He looked pretty tan to me.” (25:54, Big T)
  • “It might be slightly toned out, but you can still very clearly see where it stops.” (26:03, Big T)

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Key Segment Timestamps

• Media consolidation, carriage disputes, streaming wars – (102:03–137:43)
• Historic context/Telecommunications Act of 1996 – (137:43–139:04)
• AI in music/art and existential fears – (110:32–123:27)
• Healthcare/Millennial doctor relationships – (37:46–52:40)
• Dog breed rabbit hole – (69:07–79:46)
• Political sidebars/Trump/Clinton asides – (11:44–25:27; 139:13–144:50)
• Sports right carriage & streaming – (127:37–132:42; 132:44–135:25)

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Episode Tone and Takeaways

The conversation is loose, energetic, full of passionate rants (notably Arian on AI art), and plenty of self-deprecating humor about aging, technology, and sports. The takeaways:

• Media consolidation and streaming disputes are increasingly confusing and frustrating for everyday viewers.
• Historic deregulation fostered an oligopoly that is nearly impossible for innovative upstarts to break into.
• Authentic, human-created art faces a dire threat from AI, at least in the hosts’ eyes.
• Government involvement in artificially supporting or “backstopping” tech bubbles is viewed with deep skepticism.
• Even as the world gets more digital and distant, the hosts champion finding value in real community, real experiences… and real dogs.

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[B]

Did I miss this?

[C]

I didn't even peep that.

[A]

Yeah, I loved it.

[D]

He was in the H Town influencer suite in the Brewer's hat.

[B]

Oh, I completely missed this.

[C]

My baby mama's brother came in town. He's a Jaguars fan. She was like, yo, can you give me tickets? I was like, yeah, now I wasn't gonna go. And she's like, man, just pull up. So I just pulled up, said hi, and asked me to take a picture in front of the jump rocking the Brewers. Yeah, I mean, I. I had sweats and flip flops on, so, I mean, you know how I rock. I didn't plan to be. Was it a thing to be? Yeah.

[A]

Taking a Picture of it was. It was a good game, though. Did you like the game?

[C]

I left that the fourth quarter, so I didn't even get to see the. The finale of it.

[A]

You didn't get to see Davis Mills running it in and then the. The turnover at the very last second.

[C]

I saw the highlights afterwards. Everybody was like, yo, they came back. Which is. That's what's up, man.

[B]

There are multiple replies to this tweet saying, arian Foster, the podcaster.

[C]

Unreal.

[A]

That was a. Yeah, it was a fun game. The Texans defense is really good.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, they are. They got. They got some. They got some good defenders, man. What's the corner names, like All Pro?

[A]

Stingley.

[B]

Stingley.

[C]

Stingley. There you go. Yeah, nice.

[A]

Stingley. Will Anderson. Yeah, you got some. Some nice pieces there, man.

[C]

100 grand. Fun, though. Fun to be back. It was fun.

[A]

What's 100 grand?

[C]

I said, my man's trying to grab. She's like, yeah, cool.

[B]

It's just an exclamation.

[A]

Gotcha. Gotcha. I agree. Big T. It's good to see you.

[B]

I see you as well.

[A]

We did. We did the College Football playoff thing last night. The brackets out. Can you talk me off a ledge?

[B]

Are you. You're. You think you're in a bad spot?

[A]

I think we're in a bad spot. I think James Madison's in a bad spot.

[B]

Oh, I don't agree with that at all.

[A]

Okay. All right. Well, yeah, that sounds like you're ready to talk me off a ledge.

[B]

Yeah. Why would you be on a ledge?

[A]

My theory is that USF is going to get the spot if they win out, and there's nothing that JMU can do to change that.

[B]

I agree with that.

[A]

And then I think that if USF loses a game, they are playing against Navy this weekend. Not a bad team. Good team. Go America. I don't believe USF has any F18 Hornets.

[B]

Probably not.

[A]

Navy has way more than them.

[B]

Not even in South Florida.

[A]

Not even. But I think that there's a chance that if USF would lose in the title game to Unto, then it would be unt.

[B]

I think there's a strong possibility the American champ gets in if there's only one spot. However, you just need to be rooting hard for Duke.

[A]

I'm rooting hard for Duke. Yep.

[B]

Because if Duke wins out, then you may get two spots.

[A]

But yes, that is another out that we have. But I also think that it's unlikely that Duke will win out.

[B]

I don't know that I'd call it Unlikely.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I think it's. I think it's very plausible.

[A]

Okay. What's their schedule? Let's look.

[B]

They play Virginia, North Carolina and NC State or Wake Forest. Lake Forest.

[A]

Okay, so Virginia. Good team.

[B]

Duke is favored by, like, almost a.

[A]

Touchdown, but still good team.

[B]

They'll be favored by a lot against North Carolina.

[A]

Unc. Not as bad as they were at the start of the year.

[B]

Yeah. But they're still not good. And then is Wake at home?

[A]

Wake is at home.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. There'll be a seven point favorite against Wake. They'll be favored in all three games.

[A]

I still think that getting three in a row is going to be tough for Duke football.

[B]

I've won all the rest of them except one.

[A]

All right.

[B]

In conference. And then they'll play Georgia Tech and they'll be a three and a half point underdog.

[A]

Yeah, Georgia Tech. That scares me, too. I. Yeah. I don't have a lot of confidence in Duke football, but I have no choice. Go Duke. Go Navy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's where I'm at this weekend.

[B]

And there is a world where JMU is the lone group of five representative, but I think that's less likely.

[A]

Yeah, it is. I think the die has been cast. And we had our opportunity to beat Louisville, which we did for a half.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But then, you know, things happen.

[B]

Good football team.

[A]

Good football team. Or if we want to do the transitive property, I can do the transitive property with you.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So if you look at this, JMU beat Louisiana, Louisiana beat Marshall. Marshall beat Texas State, Texas State beat utsa. UTSA beat Rice, Rice beat uab. UAB beat Memphis. Memphis beat usf.

[B]

Therefore, JMU also beat Marshall. You could have cut a couple off of that.

[A]

Yeah, but it's funnier if I add in Louisiana.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

Yeah. But. Yeah, that's. If we're looking at the transitive property, I think that's as cut and dry as it can get. You could also do Jamie, who beat Texas, State, who beat utsa, who beat Tulane, who beat Memphis, who beat usf.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's a couple of ways we can get there.

[B]

Jamie's a very good football team.

[A]

Yeah. I just. I feel like it's going to be. It's an uphill climb for us to get in the playoff at this point, seeing where the committee is. But we were talking about this on part of my take. Did you see. Did they do the hat thing again last night?

[B]

I did not see it posted.

[A]

Aaron, have you seen the hat thing that they do for the College Football Playoff?

[C]

The Hat thing. I have not seen the hat thing.

[A]

So the members of the committee that are instructed to determine who the. The 12 teams making the playoff are going to be, they have a rule.

[C]

We.

[A]

We take our hats off when we walk into that room and make these choices. So the idea is that if they're, you know, the athletic director at a school, they take off that hat, and then they're impartial once they get into the room. So they tried to, like, do a video of the symbolism behind this, and they had everybody walking into that room take their hat off. Like, they had a hat and a hat rack, and they would put their hat on the rack. The problem was they. They handed out hats to these people before they walked in the room. And the hats that they were hanging up said College Football Playoff committee on it. So they were actually, like, taking off their impartial hat and hanging it up before they went to the room.

[C]

Is this symbolic?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Symbolism.

[C]

Stupid.

[A]

It's stupid. And let's. Let's be real. There's not going to be impartiality when it comes to these people deciding who makes playoffs. Although I did appreciate Greg Sankey saying, like, hey, Tennessee might be it.

[B]

He said, we should still have a shot.

[A]

I love that. Yeah, I love that. That's what you want out of your commissioner.

[B]

Yeah. He does a great job.

[A]

And I think what he was getting at is by including Tennessee in that, he might also be advocating for Oklahoma.

[B]

Oklahoma only has two losses.

[A]

I know, but he's, like, advocating even more strongly for Oklahoma, depending on how things shake out by including Tennessee.

[C]

The.

[A]

Now all of a sudden, that becomes a major win for Oklahoma.

[B]

It still is.

[A]

Yeah. But it, like, adds a little panache to it. Yeah, but I like how they pretend to be. Most of the people pretend to be impartial. Greg Sankey does not.

[B]

No. I mean, it's his job to be partial.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

He's not on the committee.

[A]

It's a good gig. If you can get it.

[B]

It's a great gig.

[A]

Where do we want to start today?

[B]

I mean, Donald's having about. About the worst week I've ever seen.

[A]

It's been a tough week for Donald.

[B]

This guy.

[A]

This guy. Donald. Listen, I've. I've seen some of the ratings recently with Mr. Donald Things. I mean, it's not like he's running for reelection maybe, but it doesn't look good.

[B]

He wouldn't win if he did.

[A]

I don't think he would. I. I think he's lost. He's lost a lot of Support in the last month. I feel like it's been a bad month. He seems to not really understand how tariffs work anymore, if he did, to begin with.

[C]

Anymore.

[A]

Yeah, he's like disagreeing with what he said like four months ago about tariffs and he's like considering taking tariffs off coffee and off gas to drive the prices down, implying that by putting tariffs on coffee and gas in the first place, they drove the prices up, which is kind of 180 degrees different from. From what he pitched when he put the tariffs in.

[B]

But.

[A]

Yeah. What's, what do you think the, the biggest blunder he's had this week is?

[B]

Big T. I mean, the, the Laura Ingram interview is the dumbest thing I've ever. Like, who let him say that?

[A]

He did.

[C]

What did he say?

[A]

I missed this.

[C]

What did he do?

[A]

I mean, we can, we can blame Biden when he says something stupid. We can blame Trump when he says something dumb too.

[B]

Yeah, a hundred percent. I'm just saying, like, he, he is going out of his way to just say the dumbest shit conceivable.

[C]

I, I don't find that inaccurate. I find it funny that you say this now.

[B]

What do you mean?

[C]

He's been doing this since 2000.

[B]

Well, you, you, yes, you can argue that you don't like a lot of what he said before, but this is.

[C]

Not like he has said some dumb.

[B]

Sure, but this is like, this pisses everyone off. Like most of them.

[C]

Like, what do you say? I don't know.

[B]

Laura Ingram said if you want to raise wages for Americans, saying that you can't. Like we don't have the workforce that we have. No, no talented workers here.

[A]

It's tough to keep track of all his quotes cuz he's got so many. Like, the man has. He's. I think he's the most quoted quotable person in America.

[B]

Again, I think y' all are hung up on. Like, yeah, he said plenty of dumb stuff before. This is politically so dumb because this pisses off his own side.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, he's the, he's the. I don't think he's had like a coherent policy standpoint from his inception. Like, it's about his health. Like, think about the health care. He's been promising a health care plan for almost 10 years now. Nothing. Like. So, I mean, it's on par with exactly who he is.

[B]

But this is. And exactly who this is totally antithetical to. I mean, his, his main. No, it is. His main policy point coming into his second term was we're going to Deport a lot of illegal immigrants, which is going to help the economy, do a bunch of stuff. He's not only not doing that, he's now saying we actually need more immigration because we don't have skilled American workers, which is one, just not true, but two, even if it was true, that should lead you to say we're going to invest in training up the American workforce rather than importing an entire new one.

[C]

We have been saying this for the entirety of his tenure. Donald Trump and the majority of the GOP and the majority of the establishment Democrats are loyal to one thing and one thing only, corporate interests. They don't care about American workers and they don't care about wages. They don't care. All they care about is their profits at their bottom line. That's all they care about. That's who they massage. That's who our policies go. If you look, and it's not me just saying it, look at their policy.

[B]

I don't disagree with you.

[C]

Well, I'm saying it's not, it's funny that. I mean, I'm excited because maybe like, Republicans can wake up and Democrats as well can wake up and say the American people want a represent representative government that looks out for their best interests. And I don't think that we've had that for the longest. And it's, I'm, I'm, I'm happy that. I'm happy you feel this way. Big.

[A]

Well, it is. I think big. T is right in that what Trump has been on a heater of recently is pissing off specifically his own base, which he's, he's typically, in the past, he's found ways to, even though sometimes he'll say things and like, change the minds of what his base thinks, like, he'll give them a reason to, to trust him and to go with his movement, even if it's something that's not historically a Republican standpoint. But in, in the last month or so, he's just like, stepped on every single possible landmine and just pissed off all the people who were his most diehard supporters. So, I mean, the Epstein stuff was a big one for that. I mean, that. I'd say that most people that thought that Jeffrey Epstein was a major factor in why they were voting for a president ended up voting for Donald Trump. I think that's probably the right way to phrase it. It's not saying that Democrats don't care about Jeffrey Epstein, but I think if that was like one of your main issues that you deeply cared about, you probably skewed towards the Republican side in 2024. And the way that he's handled that has been cluster. There was actually a new release that came out today. Did you guys see that? Some emails.

[B]

Saw it briefly. Yeah.

[A]

So there's some emails that were released being like, it was from. One was from Epstein to Glenn saying how Trump spent time alone with one of the underage victims and then kind of strategizing how Trump is going to respond if he's asked about Jeffrey Epstein during the 2016 debates.

[D]

And then Jeff Wolf basically put like, are we gonna blackmail him?

[A]

Oh, yeah. Is it Jeff Wolf or is it Michael Wolf or.

[D]

Sorry, Michael Wolf.

[C]

Sorry.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that was, that was kind of crazy. So the author that. That's written extensively about Jeffrey Epstein, Michael Wolf, and, and Trump has some emails with Epstein going Back to like 2017, 2018, maybe 2016, before he was president. And it was saying, how do we respond to this? There's a chance that Trump throws Epstein under the bus, but there's also a chance that he gets elected president. And then we have stuff to hang him with, which is just some wild going on behind the scenes saying, like, yeah, I'm going to. I'm gonna have the present by the balls because I, I know some dirt about him. So there's some more stuff coming out today. I think there's gonna be some Bannon stuff. Bannon never struck me as a creep. He seems like a gentleman. So I don't know. I'd be, I'd be surprised if there was anything incriminating there. But yeah, this. The Epstein stuff, the interview that Big T was talking about with Laura Ingram, and then the, the 50 year mortgages.

[B]

Which comes immediately on the heels of 50 year mortgages. And he said something similar about student visas. He was like, well, we need to bring in however many hundreds of thousands of foreign students because if we don't, some of the American colleges will go out of business. And it's like, well, great. If people don't want to go there, let them go out of business, dude. Yeah, who cares?

[A]

Yeah, I. Listen, I agree. I think that this is. It's been a, it's been a tough month. We'll see if the Democrats are able to basically just keep their mouth shut and avoiding shooting themselves in the foot.

[B]

That's the one year ago today the Democratic Party was in the worst spot either party's been in probably in my lifetime. Certainly, I mean, they were, they were dead. And in one year now it's completely flipped.

[A]

Republicans were down pretty bad, right After Obama got elected. But then they. They did the Tea Party thing, which kind of bounced him back a little bit. But, yeah, yeah, Democrats were in a tough spot. We're still searching for the left's Joe Rogan. That's what the Democrats are doing. Yeah, I love that. I love that you're looking for Joe everywhere. Is this guy Joe Rogan? Is this a Joe Rogan? We'll see. Yeah, it's been. It's been a tough week. It's been a tough week for Donny Boy. And then there's a lot of people saying that he might be going through dementia, analyzing his health. His hands look good, though. I haven't seen any bruising on the hands recently.

[D]

He, like, fell asleep in a press conference last week. Did you see that?

[A]

Listen, what time was that? Was that like 11:00am I'm not sure of the time.

[D]

It seemed to be daylight outside.

[A]

In his defense, that was a really boring press conference until that guy passed out. That would have woke me up a little bit.

[C]

How do we know what happened to Kurt? Like, how did he pass it? What, did he pass out?

[D]

He was in a chair. He was sleeping, like, napping?

[B]

No, the guy who actually.

[D]

Oh, the RFK guy or the guy.

[B]

Did you see this?

[C]

I did see a clip of that, yeah.

[B]

Did you see him just kind of stand there, Trump?

[C]

Yeah. And I see RFK just kind of look like, yeah. Like, do people be passing around normally? Like, passing up, like. No, he was very, like, everything's okay. Show must go on.

[A]

It was a funny scene because RFK Jr got the. Out of that camera frame. He saw a guy passed out. He's like, I'm out here.

[C]

I gotta go.

[A]

And then he left. I don't know where he actually went in that room because all we can see is what happened in the frame of the camera. Like, he might have gone to get somebody for all we know, and been like, hey, I need a real doctor to come in here and help this person. But, yeah, he. It certainly seemed like he could not wait to get the fuck out of there. Big T, I've. I've got an idea what's up. Maybe how we can get, you know, the wind back in the sails here of some of the. Some of the Trump supporters. We can figure out what's really going on. Give us something to be angry about.

[B]

I'm listening.

[A]

About what? A month ago, two months ago, Donnie got his Covid booster.

[B]

Did he really?

[A]

Did that. Did that turn him into a lib? Is that.

[B]

I don't know, man. Something may have.

[A]

Is that the new batch robots microbots.

[C]

That make you woke.

[A]

I think the new coveted booster just turns you live.

[B]

It's. It's a plausible scenario, I guess. I didn't. I didn't know that had happened.

[A]

Yeah, he got jabbed up. He got jabbed up good. So, yeah, I'm interested to see what he says next.

[B]

Yeah, I can't wait.

[C]

So did he wanted the. The new Commander Stadium named after him?

[B]

That's correct.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Is that. Is that too big of a request, do you think?

[C]

I mean, it's your team.

[A]

I don't give a fuck what they call a building. What do you.

[C]

What do you think?

[A]

I. Listen.

[C]

I just.

[A]

I just want him to stay the fuck away from my team. I watch football to not think about politics. If I thought about politics when I was watching football, I would not be able to enjoy the sport. I watch football because it's fun, because I love the game. I don't need the president at the game. I don't need the president being like, if you're going to move to the new stadium, you have to name it after me. And also you have to change the name back because I'm asking you to. I don't want any of that around the team at all. It sucks. But I will say this. It is very funny that he is asking for the stadium not to be named after RFK jr's dad.

[C]

Oh, did he? That was a specific request.

[A]

Well, no, because the stadium was RFK Stadium.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So for. I forget how many years it was probably like 50 years, maybe 40 years. They played at RFK Stadium, named after Robert F. Kennedy, the Attorney General Senator who was assassinated, also RFK jr's dad. And then now they're moving back to that former site. And then Trump is like, don't name it after rfk because a lot of people thought it was going to be called RFK Stadium because that's where the stadium is going to be built. I thought it would be like RFK Stadium and they would sell naming rights to the field. So it'd be like, yeah, Raytheon Field at RFK Stadium. But then Trump was like, name it after me instead of. Instead of this guy's dad, which I thought that was. That was kind of funny just to watch RFK Jr have to deal with that.

[C]

I mean, he's already, you know, swallowed his pride enough. Yeah, it's kind of. It's kind of poetic. Just. I like it. Where's the owner at with it?

[A]

Josh Harris is. He is being A shrewd businessman, I think. And he is. He invited Donald to come to the game and to hang out in the suite. Gave him a jersey. I think he's just being night. Buttering him up, like, tolerating him, knowing that by the time the stadium's finished, he's going to be out of office anyways, so who really gives a shit? And he just doesn't want to kick the hornet's nest.

[C]

Got you.

[A]

Especially because now Trump is threatening litigation through the Attorney general on the mayor of D.C. mayor Bowser, who has been instrumental alongside the city council and Congress to finally get this stadium deal done. And so he's like, he's kind of. Trump loves sports, and he will insert himself when he finds out that there's a deal going on. He wants to be at the. At the center of that deal. And if he's not, then he will figure out a way to mess up the deal until he's involved in it.

[C]

How old is he? Trump? Yeah.

[D]

79.

[B]

Is he that old?

[A]

79 boy.

[C]

The boy knocking on the door.

[D]

79. Will be 80 in June.

[C]

Knocking on the door.

[A]

Yeah, he. I think he's also dialed down on the. On the tan stuff.

[B]

You think?

[C]

Yeah, he.

[A]

At least in that interview with Laura Ingram. I don't know if he's got a new tan guy.

[B]

He looked pretty tan to me.

[A]

Yeah, but I've seen him.

[C]

Is that the email you sent? Let me. Let me see.

[A]

I think he looks. I think he's got a new tan guy.

[B]

It might be slightly toned out, but you can still very clearly see where it stops.

[A]

Yeah, you can still see the lines.

[B]

I mean. Yeah, look at that.

[A]

He's got the stratification. Yeah.

[C]

Yo, I wonder how that gets applied. Is it a lotion? Does he sit in a bed? Does he. You know what I'm saying? Does somebody spray the bottle over his face? Does it. Close your eyes, Donald.

[B]

I think it's got to be a spray.

[A]

Got to be a spray, right?

[C]

I don't. I don't know enough about tanning them.

[D]

If it was a bed, it'd be like, even, I think, because it would just be like, he's tanning.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. But does he spray it?

[D]

He might, because it looks so bad. I don't really know.

[B]

He's got a spray guy.

[D]

Yeah, but they should know how to blend it.

[C]

What else is he responsible for? You know? I am Donald Trump's spray tan guy. Like, what other job does he have?

[B]

He might be like, have you Seen the show Veep?

[C]

I've heard of it. I heard it was really good.

[B]

You should watch it. It's very funny. But the. The vice president of the show has, like, her assistant. It's called her bag man. And he walks around with her everywhere with everything in this bag that she could possibly need. He may have a bag man.

[C]

I think he got the bad guy. Yeah. Yeah. Like, does he cut his nails? Does he bite him? These are all important questions. Yeah, and it's definitely a toupee, right? He's definitely. That's not real, right?

[A]

No, I think that's his real hair. It's just.

[C]

Really.

[A]

Yeah, I think it's just an unusual.

[B]

I think it's so thin, it has.

[D]

To be very wispy.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Wow.

[C]

You know what? Give credit where it's due. 79 years old, you still got some. Still got some fuzz up top.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Impressive.

[A]

I think it's. It's his actual hair. I think he spends a lot of time and a lot of hairspray on it, but he's got his. His own. I think he does that all himself. I don't think he would trust that to anybody. He's been doing this for years. But the tan. Yeah. I had an idea a couple years ago for a machine at the beach. I think somebody has actually started to make it now. But the idea was it's like, almost like a car wash, but for sunscreen. So you pay, like, seven bucks, and you walk through this little arch and you spin around, and it just sprays your whole body with sunscreen. So you get that done in, like, five seconds.

[B]

Do you think the average person is. Is looking for that?

[A]

I think. I think for kids, yeah.

[B]

I mean, it takes, what, 90 seconds to apply sunscreen?

[A]

Maybe, but you got, like, a wiggly kid that's trying to run away. What do you think, Arian?

[C]

I think wiggly kid is a hilarious adjective.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. You got a wiggly kid.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, you know.

[A]

You know the type of. I do have.

[C]

I have wiggly kid. Like my daughter.

[A]

She'll. She'll.

[C]

She'll.

[A]

Anytime we have.

[C]

Hey, come here. Gotta change the diaper. She takes off running, and you gotta chase her.

[A]

Yeah, she takes off.

[C]

It's the funniest. She's wiggly.

[A]

Is she fast?

[C]

Super fast. Yeah. Yeah. She's looking to be kind of athletic. Dog. I'm excited about this one. Yeah. Yeah. So my. My most athletic child is my second daughter. She is by far the most athletic kid I have. It's. It's insane how she. Anything she wants to do, she can be able to do. And I say that unbiasedly. Like, she'll go to gym class. And the teacher came to, like, hey, you got to put it in a different class. She's like, way better than everybody else. Like, it's like that. She's cold.

[A]

Is she doing track and field?

[C]

She hasn't done track yet. She's eight. So she. I'm. I'm trying to figure out what she likes to do and then push it towards that. She really likes tennis, so we're pushing her in that she just had to get to the advanced class in tennis. So she's going with older kids in tennis already. And so I'm thinking tennis, golf. And I don't. I don't like track four. I ran track. I don't. It's boring.

[A]

It is boring. Yeah.

[C]

And it's like, I was. I. I was thinking about this a while back with. Usain Bolt is obviously the greatest sprinter of all time, and he trained his entire life for nine seconds.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, that's what's wild to think about. Nine seconds.

[A]

Yeah. That is crazy.

[C]

And then when my big T's homeboy gave us Cole Hawker, that was a more exhilarating race is a 1500, but nobody ever remembers the best 1500 runner of all time. You know what I mean?

[A]

Like, it's just.

[C]

It. Sprint is the main event in the. In the track and Field Olympics. Four by one, stuff like that. 200, maybe even 400, but nah, I want to have something that she can, like, really, really enjoy and immerse herself in.

[B]

Do you know this story's. I guess, been out there for a while? Because I. I looked it up, and I think it was in 2008 in Beijing. But do you know what Usain Bolt eats exclusively, like, during the Olympics or when he's doing a race?

[C]

Yeah, ostrich feet.

[B]

Oh, that's not what I saw.

[C]

No, I'm just joking. I have no idea.

[B]

McDonald's chicken nuggets, he said, because I just. I need protein, and I want to make sure that I'm not gonna, like, get sick or have something that I don't know, like what it's gonna do to my stomach. So he just eats McNuggets when he's. Yeah, I don't know.

[C]

Yeah, I don't know enough about that, but I know if you do that for an extended period of time, you won't be fast.

[B]

Well, sure, but if it's for. If it's for A week?

[C]

Yeah, I think something like that. Like when you train constantly year round like that, you can have those. Like, I'm gonna eat this and it's not gonna affect you now.

[B]

He said, honestly, I ate nothing else in all my time in China except chicken nuggets. They were the only food I could properly trust which wouldn't affect my stomach. On arriving at the pre Olympic training camp, I tried a local Chinese meal which wasn't like the ones we eat in the west. And my body didn't react well. So knowing I could rely on nuggets, I made up my mind. That's all I would eat. And I ate them for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Washed down with bottled water.

[C]

Interesting choice. Yeah. Did you know that I.

[A]

He's. He's never run a mile.

[B]

Makes sense.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, why would he?

[A]

I would be curious at some point if I were him.

[B]

I think he's run a mile.

[A]

Yeah. What it feels like to be tired.

[B]

He. He's done that. He's just never done it. Like trying to, you know, ramp up for it.

[A]

He told us that he's never run a mile.

[B]

He's run a mile.

[A]

You calling him a liar?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, that's fair.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, he might be lying.

[B]

Yeah. He's done nothing his whole life but run. He's run a mile at some point. Yeah.

[A]

He's been on a track his whole life. He's never wondered, what if I just keep going for a little bit?

[B]

He's never trained to see how fast he could run.

[C]

What happened if I just go a little.

[A]

Go a little farther.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm just not going to stop right now. I'm going to keep going. Might as well just go all the way around back where I started. I'm not that tired yet. Okay. I feel like he. With no training, I think that he could probably run like if he's telling the truth. At the peak of his powers, when he ran what, 979, something like that. When you ran 9, 7, 900 yard dash. And if he was telling the truth that he had never run a mile before, I think just being the athlete that he is, he could probably go sub six minutes.

[B]

Oh, way on his very way faster.

[A]

Than that very first time running a mile six.

[C]

I mean, he has extremely long legs.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, he'll kill that. Six minutes. I could do six minutes right now.

[B]

You think? Usain Bolt. You said six minutes.

[A]

I said sub six.

[C]

I mean, under six is not a hard thing to do for a track.

[A]

Athlete, but for somebody who's never run a mile before in their entire life.

[B]

He's the fastest guy in the world.

[A]

Yes. For 100 meters, sure.

[B]

Okay, so, so that's 10 seconds, that's 40 for 400, which is a quarter. So if he ran that pace, which obviously he wouldn't, that would be what, 240?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, so say you slow down a little bit like you're still, you're still clear in four minutes easy.

[C]

But he could, he could jog well his, his 400 times like what under 50 easy. Right. So when you train for the 400, you train like 800, sometimes 600. I guarantee you his training sessions, my training sessions when I used to run four hundreds, I used to get them within. I used to run, we used to do like, I think it's like three.

[A]

By fours or something like that.

[C]

I used to get them in like when I was pushing 5155 when I was really, really tired. Like 1 105, 110. Right. Like that's. And that was me like digging but I was not. Track, track speed and football speed are two entirely different things. So if he was pushing, I guarantee he could get each one in, I don't know, 1, 1, 130, 140. Easily.

[A]

Yeah, I mean 130 would be a six minute mile.

[B]

That'd be six minutes.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. Easily though. That's what he said.

[A]

Sub six.

[C]

That's easy.

[A]

I, I forgot that he ran the 400 hand up. I only remembered him running the 100 and 200. He was also an excellent 400 meter sprinter. And that, that's probably the hardest event. Right?

[C]

That's the man that, that put the hair on your chest because it's, you're.

[A]

Sprinting the entire time.

[C]

4 PS of running the 400 meters. So what they, this is what they.

[A]

Teach you growing up, 100 or 400.

[C]

400.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

There's a, there's a 4Ps first hunt, you push the second hundred, you pace third hundred, you position to come on a back, back stretch. And the fourth 100, they say you just pray whatever you got left. I thought it was puke eventually. Yeah. And that's the fifth p. Yeah, that's the hardest. Like that is the hardest, one of the hardest things I've ever done like really trained for 400. It's just when you run it, like actually run it your whole. But every muscle in your body, you feel it dog ass locked up, hurting.

[A]

I think that I, I think that if he did train for the 400. By running 800 meters, which you say is like, pretty standard, then I'm going to. I'm going to rethink my mile time for him because if he's run a half mile before, he was probably pretty quick at that and then just double that. I'm gonna guess with zero training, having only run 800 meters in the past, I'm gonna put him at. At 5 chat.

[B]

GPT says 4 and a half.

[A]

I'll put him at 5 flat for the first time running. Because you will. Your body does start to gas out after a little bit. If you haven't done any sort of distance. And it's not like.

[B]

And it's got good math here. Scaling from his 45 second 400 meters and assuming his pace drops by roughly 35% by a mile, 8.9 meters a second times 0.65 is 5.8 meters a second, which for a mile would be 4 minutes and 37 seconds.

[A]

And I also think it's fair to think that it would drop by more than that if he hasn't done it before.

[B]

35%. That's a lot.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

By the time we're talking about peak, you say. Not right now, you say. Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Pinky saying is easily clearing that six minutes is disrespectful.

[A]

Oh, I said sub six. That could be four.

[B]

Okay, meaning what? 550.

[C]

As Weasley, I said something. He could pick the world record.

[A]

I was thinking like 545, 50, something like that. But I'd like to abridge that and.

[B]

Say if he was running a mile and that was the line, I would. I would responsibly bet a lot of money on under.

[A]

Yeah. Would he also know that he was competing? Like, would he know what I'm setting his over, under at?

[B]

He's trying to run it as quickly as possible.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, probably. Probably more in the 5 to 520 range first time. But then like he practices it twice and then he's down in the fours.

[B]

I guess we'll never know.

[C]

I like, I like 5, 5, 35, 10. I like their first time. Yeah, I like that.

[A]

Yeah. I'm trying to get back into working out. It's hard. It's tough, man.

[C]

I suggested I. So the reason why we had to start a little later today was because I had a doctor's appointment and. And I hadn't been to the doctor in like almost six years. And so I called to make my appointment and I text my doctor. He's like, yeah, just call the lady. I called the lady and she's like, okay, give me the information. Gave her the information. She goes, oh, oh, yeah, we haven't seen you for a while. I was like, yeah. So I went in there just to get all my. Everything taken, and my blood pressure is amazing right now.

[A]

Let's go.

[C]

I'm excited. Yeah, man. I'm like 108 over 70. Like, I was expecting. I was expecting a little high. The last. Yeah, the last, like, four weeks, I just decided to change my lifestyle because it was getting bad.

[A]

Did you know that you were going to have this doctor's appointment? And so you had a goal. You're like, I'm going to get. I'm going to start getting healthy before the doctor.

[C]

No, I don't know where I was. I can't remember where I was, but I was around with this blood pressure machine and my shit was high. And I was like, this ain't. This isn't good. Like, especially because I've had so many peers pass and past year, right? And so I was like, like, you gotta. You gotta lock in. Because, like, if you. If you. I've said this before, this pop. It's like when you. When you don't have, like, a boss and there's. There's. There's. You don't have, like, real responsibilities. There's no deterrent stopping you from doing the things that you enjoy via eating, via drinking, be it smoking, whatever your vice is, right? And so you have to have, like, set goals and stuff like that. So I was like, I gotta. I gotta. The blood pressure thing was like, I gotta lock in. Cause I know, you know, blood pressures, you know, you talking about strokes, you're talking about, like, real issues, right? Heart. Heart disease, heart failure, stuff like that. And I'm already an athlete, so, you know, you only got so many beats in you. Yeah, I decided to lock in. I did. I've never taken any supplements or vitamins. It's never been a thing of mine. And I decided to look into that. So I got on a little cocktail that I take daily and I started. Yeah, so I started that. So, like, yeah, been really. I feel better, man. It's just really good. Yeah. I needed to. Needed to change. You know what I mean? So if anybody's out there looking for a sign, this is. This is Big T's. Lord telling you to go ahead and change your life, man.

[A]

Love it. Love. Did you write down the goals or are they just goals that you came up with?

[C]

What would be the difference of those two things?

[A]

Like having a goal in your head is one thing. Some people write down their goals, and that makes that. That makes it real for some people is when they actually take the time to write it out and they look at it and now they know.

[C]

Yeah, no, this isn't. Like, I wasn't on red alert, like, hey, I gotta drop. Like, the blood pressure wasn't like, I'm about to, you know, I mean, have a stroke, but it was, like, concerning enough to be like, all right, dog, like, cut the games, right? So it's just in my head, it's just something that I said. It's just the goal. I was like, hey, let's. Let's curve what we eat, drink, and limit your drinking to special occasions. So no more just randomly on a Tuesday afternoon, I'm gonna have a drink with the foot. Not just. None of that drink only special occasions. And I'm probably gonna do this for, like. Probably like a year.

[A]

Ish.

[C]

See where it lands me. But right now, I feel really good. I'm like, the thinnest I've ever been. I can see abs poking in, dog. I don't wanna. I don't want to stun on you right now, but they starting to come. Come back a little bit, Eric.

[A]

All right, all right. Good for you, man. I'm very happy about that.

[C]

I remember a long time ago, me and you had a Christmas abs.

[A]

Yeah, Christmas abs was.

[C]

Remember that?

[A]

Yeah, I got it. They were in there somewhere.

[C]

Try and run it back.

[A]

Christmas abs.

[C]

Let's do it, man.

[B]

It.

[C]

I'm in. We in 40, dog.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? Yep. 40 abs.

[C]

40 abs.

[A]

I like it. Let's do it. My problem recently has been so when I hurt my back over the summer, I was there. Yeah, it was. It was so bad that I couldn't do any sort of, like, workout for probably, like, golfing was one thing that I could try to do, but that still hurt. But I couldn't really hit the gym at all. Run weights, anything for probably, like, two months. And then now that I'm back trying to do that again, I'm, like, so far out of shape that it's, like, demoralizing. It's like I. I get tired after going, like a half mile on a treadmill, and I'm like, what is. What's going on with me right now? And so I'm thinking maybe I need to find. There's gotta be a different type of workout that I can get really into, where I'm truly starting from scratch, where I don't have, like, the expectation of what I used to be able to do, that's kind of like dragging me down. I. I need to find like a. A new thing that I can get excited about.

[C]

I think that's a very important point that you're saying. I think a lot of people go through that and then they'll say it and then they'll. They'll go back to their old habits. So it's about, yeah, you got, you got to be excited about something. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. Or at least for a workout for me, I. I do. I have to, like, I have to have that, like, natural energy to push myself to get through it. So like, before I could, like last year, I could go out and run four miles if I had to, and I'd feel good. And after like the third mile, be like, okay, I got this. I can do four easy. But then you get that setback and then you start running and you're like, I am. This sucks. I can. I'm out of. I'm out of shape. I can't breathe. It's been a quarter of a mile like that. It is. It's hard to push through that. So, yeah, something.

[C]

Expectations. That's, that's. That's what I would, you know, because like, a lot of times, especially as an ex athlete, I go into the gym with this, this workout that I know I've been doing for years. Right. And so I had to like, scale it back and be like, dog, you're not running from 300 pound people anymore. Like, cut that out. Like, calm down. And so, like, sometimes, Sometimes we had. I used to have a saying that my dad used to. I used to work out. It's like sometimes you beat the gym, sometimes the gym beats you. But the important part is that you keep showing up. Like, some, Some. Some days I don't. I wouldn't feel like it. And I would go in there and like, I would. I can only do 20 minutes mentally. Yeah, I can't. I can't take it today, but I still got 20 minutes in. 20 minutes in is better than 0 minutes in. You know what I mean? So just keep chipping away at that, at that iceberg, slowly but surely.

[A]

I like it.

[B]

You. You went to the same doctor after six years.

[C]

Yeah. Apparently you don't like consistency. Big T. God. You change doctors.

[B]

Like, no, no. But if I hadn't gone in six years, I would have gone to a new guy.

[C]

Logistically, that doesn't even make sense. They have, like, he's. He'll see the Difference right away.

[B]

Yeah, I guess I just. When. When you said they were like, oh, we haven't seen you in a long time, I would have. I would have just gone to a new guy out of shame, maybe. But just like, I. I wouldn't want to have that interaction.

[A]

I hear that. I hear that. Yeah. Because then you get the, oh, wow, it's been a long time. Yeah.

[B]

I just wouldn't want to have that. I go to a new dentist almost every time I go, yeah, bro, what is.

[C]

Okay, so. But I. I don't understand your line of thinking, though.

[B]

It takes, like, five minutes. You fill out the form, and it's. You just go to.

[C]

But it's like, wouldn't you. I just would assume you would want somebody that consistently sees you so that they know abnormalities and they can spot it faster than somebody.

[B]

Right. But you. You weren't going consistently. That's what I'm saying.

[C]

Hence, they could spot the abnormalities if they saw anything that they hadn't seen before.

[B]

I'm just saying.

[C]

Do you have a commitment issues? Clearly not. What am I saying?

[B]

No, I just. I just would have liked to avoid that interaction, that's all.

[C]

I don't. I've always been the type. Like, I'm at where I'm at. Like, it is what it is. Like, I. I am who I am. I'm at where I'm at, and it's. If you go judge me for it, you're gonna judge me for it.

[A]

I kind of agree with Big T, though. That might be. I don't know. It might be. I mean, you're in the same. You're in the same, like, generation as us. But I've always felt like millennials and people younger than millennials, they don't have, like, consistent family doctors. Like, boomers had, like.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

What do you. What do you guys think? Mad Dog McKenzie. Do you guys go to the same, like, general practice doctor. Do you have a relationship with that kind of doctor?

[D]

I did growing up, but then once, like, I'm like, once after college. Not anymore.

[A]

You bounce around.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yes. I had the same one growing up forever. And since becoming an adult, it's also hard because we were in New York and now in Chicago, so obviously everything switched just because of moving. I've gone to the same doctor a couple times in a row.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

For, like, yearly physicals and things of that nature. Yeah.

[A]

I just started. I just hit my second yearly physical in a row with the same Dr. Metric for the first time. I think as an Adult.

[D]

Yeah, I did too. Recently. I feel like there's a weird in between when you're out of college and still going to your doctor that you grew up with at home. Whenever you're home visiting. Some people will do that. And then until you officially, like become a real adult and you're like, okay, I need to get my own doctor sort of thing.

[A]

My doctor growing up was like best friends of my dad. He was like a good friend of the family and he was always around, like holidays.

[D]

I feel like that happens a lot.

[A]

Yeah, he was like, almost like as close as anybody with their family. We used to come over and watch like NFL and March Madness with us all the time. So I literally grew up with this guy in my house. And then I went to college and I came back and I had to get an STD test. When I got back, I had to book an appointment with this guy. And fortunately he had one of his assistants take care of that for me, by the way. All clean. No worries. It was a, A preventative thing.

[C]

Listen, and we don't judge.

[A]

Yeah, it was a, it was just a, a just in case type of test. But yeah, he was like, I'm going to let, I'm gonna let her take care of that, if that's okay.

[B]

And I was like, I think there might be a market in this country for doctors and dentist offices that are exclusively for 18 to 30 year olds who like still want their parents to make their appointments and stuff. And I think if. I don't know how this manifests itself, but I think there's a market for it.

[D]

Yeah, I can see the vision.

[B]

Like, you're not allowed to go there if you're not 18 to 30.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Honestly, the dentist I went to a few weeks ago kind of is a similar thing. Like the whole place was painted like rose gold and the rooms were named like, this is the Chamomile Tea Room. And they. It was a very odd place to be. But I think what I'm describing, there's a market for. If you can figure out how to do it.

[A]

My first grown up doctor.

[B]

Yes. Yes. No, I do think there's a large amount of young urban professionals living in large cities that would frequent that kind of place.

[C]

Yeah. So what I'm hearing, correct me if I'm wrong, like, what I'm hearing is there's a lot of people that. And I said it I can just earlier. But like, I think it's an accurate depiction is there's a lot of people that probably won't visit A doctor out of, like, shame of whatever they feel they're going through or whatever they have going on. Is that my hair?

[B]

I don't even think it's that. I think it's a lot of young people, like, are still relying on their parents to do a lot of stuff, increasingly in all aspects of life. And so, like, I, Like, I've heard stories of people being like, I feel really sick and like, I need to. I need my mom to make me an appointment somewhere or something. It's like, you're 23.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

I don't do that.

[B]

So I don't know how this would. This would work necessarily. But I think if you made a doctor's office that was just for that age group, like, I don't know how you make. How you fix that problem, but I do think there's a market for it.

[D]

I agree.

[C]

So the. The not quite grown Dr. Zo.

[D]

Yes, exactly.

[B]

That. That's actually a solid name.

[C]

Almost grown.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It's like a halfway house between.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Because it's also like, I don't. I go STDs.

[C]

Welcome.

[D]

Yeah. I basically go to my doctor every year as. To get prescriptions renewed. I don't necessarily go for, like, oh, I want to check in on my health. It's like, I have a means to an end, so it's not necessarily like, oh, you know, I have to go get this checked out. Like, yeah. Like, I'm not like, being like, what's my blood pressure? Like, what's my. You know, what's all that up to?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

It's more of like, well, I need them to renew my prescription, which is why I go to the same people, because then I don't have to worry about them, like, switching prescriptions and stuff, too.

[C]

I had a wild night, and we got to make sure everything's all right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then if your blood pressure.

[D]

I was gonna say, no, not really.

[A]

But your age group.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

If your blood pressure is 67, you win a thousand dollars or something.

[A]

Oh, that's nice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They have an over. You can bet on it on your own, like, numbers.

[B]

Oh, that'd be. Yes.

[D]

Yeah, that'd be good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There. This might. This might be a billion dollar idea.

[A]

DraftKings Minute Clinic. Yeah. Flash bets.

[B]

I was just saying because of 6, 7. But that. But that's a great idea as well.

[A]

Yeah. What's. What's your temperature? Guess your temperature. Odds are even.

[B]

Yeah. No, I mean this.

[A]

98.7.

[B]

This could be awesome.

[A]

I. I know what you're saying, yeah, I think that there's, it's a different relationship that you have because you grow up with a. Typically kids grow up with the same doctor for a lot of reasons and then you move out and then you try to find a new doctor. Then when you're in your 20s, a lot of people move. They might move a couple times. You don't get that, that same like consistency until maybe you have kids and then you just, your healthcare then becomes like asking your kids doctor questions when you're on your way out.

[D]

I also think too a lot of people stay on their parents insurance until like the last possible chance. So like if you move cities and your insurance is still in like a different state, then it's like, okay, how am I going to get a doctor here? That was thing which might be the case. ZocDoc is a wonderful tool that everyone should be using all the time for that.

[A]

I've used that. Yeah.

[D]

I love ZocDoc.

[B]

What is that?

[D]

That's how I find all my doctors. I live here same. I literally.

[B]

It's like Zillow for doctors.

[D]

Yeah. And you type in your insurance plan and it has doctors and it's like, oh, I need a podiatrist and I have this insurance plan and then it'll give you every like in network provider, out of network provider and it's like, okay, this is when they have available appointments. It's how I found every doctor in my adult life.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It's pretty good. I've used it. I don't know how people have. People used to do that before the like Internet, right. If they move to a new city, would they just go through the yellow pages and, and call every doctor and be like, hey, do you take this insurance?

[D]

I will say no.

[A]

Okay, I'll try the next person.

[D]

I think if you, I mean, I'm sure they've been doing this for longer than ZOCDOC has been around. If you go into your like insurance benefits and insurance packet, it will give you a list of things that are covered or people that are covered so you can actually just go like analog and do it, which is what I'm sure what they used to do.

[A]

Do you think that there's room for you remember the like in cartoons and old TV shows, the old timey doctors that would bring that leather bag to your house and just show up and, and give you healthcare there? Do you think that's, you think that's a possibility, make a comeback?

[B]

I think that still exists for super rich people.

[D]

I Think my, my brother and sister in law just had a baby and they have that. There's like a specific thing you can get where the doctor will like come to your house.

[A]

Dave has that with dentists.

[B]

Yeah. I mean famous people aren't going to a doctor's office.

[A]

That is true.

[D]

But this one was like that my brother got was like an affordable thing like through their insurance. I don't know if it's specific. Obviously like a baby is different, but yeah, the doctor just like comes to their house.

[A]

I feel like big companies could also just have like a nurse's office. Like you're back in school.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like stop in. Everyone gets like an hour doctor visit per month if they want it.

[D]

I got my flu shot here. They had like somebody come to the office and do it.

[A]

Yeah. And then he turned into a lib.

[D]

Yeah. Well, too late.

[A]

Mackenzie was super conservative. She wouldn't shut up about the inheritance tax. And now. Yeah, it's crazy. There's another story in the news today about, about money finance. RIP to the penny. Oh, it's really rip the last penny has been minted. Oh yeah, it was. The last pennies were, were just struck in Philadelphia and they've been making coins there since 1793. And then they were costing about 4 cents to make each penny. Yeah. And so then they were like, I think this is Trump, actually. I think Trump, it's been a thing for like the last 25 years. 30 years. Maybe we should get rid of the penny. But Trump said let's cancel it. Let's get rid of this thing. It was costing $0.04 per $0.01 piece, but nobody uses them anymore.

[C]

So.

[A]

Yeah. RIP does that mean that pennies are going to get. Are they going to become more valuable now? Yeah, because they're scarce in the next.

[B]

20, 30 years probably.

[A]

So hang on to all your pennies.

[B]

Yeah, we got to go get some, I guess.

[A]

When's the last time you used a penny?

[C]

I haven't seen a penny in some years now that I'm thinking about it.

[A]

Decades.

[C]

I pay for everything with card or swipe.

[B]

I go out of my way to not have cash, let alone change.

[A]

Yeah. I mean if, if I have pennies, if I have change in my pocket, the very next like tip jar that I'm at, I'm just gonna. It's like a trash can basically.

[B]

Yeah. I kept. I had a big drawer full of change when I lived in New York and then right before I moved I finally went and took it to coin star thing. And that's the last time I've had change.

[A]

Yeah. Coin. Coin Star has got to be down bad right now. Yeah. Coin Star was a game changer.

[B]

It was awesome fun, a fun activity.

[C]

Penny.

[A]

Yeah, the last penny not making anymore.

[C]

See what the oldest penny in circulation is.

[A]

There's some super, super valuable pennies.

[B]

Show me.

[C]

Oh, okay. Here you go.

[B]

We'll see. The oldest one in the. I mean the oldest one that exists is probably the 1800s, but I was going to guess there are ones out there like that people are using from 100 years ago. 19 teens, 19 deans.

[C]

That's not a bad guess. The oldest penny still in circulation is the Lincoln Cent with the oldest design dating back to 1909. While earlier US coins like the Flying Eagle and Indian Head Wild since were also produced the Lincoln cent. 19 is the oldest continuously produced one in the United States and remains commonly in circulation today. Oh.

[B]

So is that when we went to Lincoln on it? It was 1909.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Y. Yep. Y.

[A]

Now, do we think that the name Penny is also going away?

[B]

It's interesting.

[C]

Might have a little resurgence. Because it is. No.

[A]

Maybe. Yeah. But yeah, the. The girl named Penny and then the Penny Hardware.

[C]

I would argue. Yeah, I was gonna say argue, argue. Penny Hardaway is probably the most famous Penny. No.

[A]

Yeah, I mean the Pennywise. Pennywise the Clown. Pennywise the band.

[B]

Who's more famous? Pennywise the Clown or Penny Hardaway?

[A]

Penny Hardaway, I think.

[B]

Is it popular in other countries?

[A]

I probably. That seems like something in like a. A completely random country that I wouldn't guess. Like maybe it is massive in Korea.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I don't know. Penny Hardaway, for. For guys our age being being Aryan. Penny Hardaway, like he's never going away. He's. He's an icon. Penny Hardaway could have been one of the best players of his generation.

[C]

I would argue that. I think he had a better skill set than Magic Johnson.

[A]

Oh, all right.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

That might make headlines.

[C]

I don't care.

[B]

No, it'd be great for us.

[C]

His. His. His skill set was unreal. He was that tall point guard. He was quicker than Magic Johnson. I feel like he was a better scorer than Magic Johnson. Passer. I'll probably get at the Magic. I think he's probably a better defender, but he's just short tenure injuries. Yeah, but Penny was that dude.

[A]

Who do you think is the all time. This guy should have been a goat. We need to remember more. But he's. His career was cut short because I got two from that era.

[C]

Definitely him What's a cousin from the Portland.

[B]

Brandon.

[C]

Brandon Roy.

[A]

Yeah. That's a good call.

[B]

I was gonna say. Sure.

[A]

Like Brandon Roy and Greg Odin, they played together. They. That would have been an awesome team in Portland.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Grant Hill is the other one. I was.

[C]

Oh, Grant. I was about to say Grant Hill. Yeah, absolutely.

[B]

What about.

[C]

He's still hall of Famer, but like, even like he don't get cut short.

[A]

I think. I think Grant Hill would have been remembered as a better player than Jay Williams if they had both stayed healthy for sure.

[B]

But Jay Williams was going to be really good.

[A]

I think he was going to be awesome.

[C]

Wait, Jay Williams from Duke?

[A]

Also Duke? Yep.

[C]

Oh, Grant Hills. I think those are two different caliber players. Grant Hill's like, you're talking. If he stays healthy, I think he's top 10, top 15 player of all time.

[A]

Yeah. We would be talking about him like we talk about maybe kd.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If he stayed healthy.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Rest in Virginia.

[C]

I found this dude on YouTube who. I'm a huge Kobe fan. Not like this cat. I'm gonna find his name, but he. He had this little like Jubilee style. Kobe is the best player of all time against people who love LeBron, but people. Magic Johnson, people love Kareem whatever. And he has stats out of this fucking world. Let me find his name. But it is impressive the way he argues for Colby.

[A]

Who's that?

[B]

Who's that.

[C]

That convincing.

[A]

Who's that liberal guy? The real young guy that talks so fast. Do you know what I'm talking about?

[B]

Talking about Harry Sisson.

[A]

No, no. This guy is like his. His speed is more along the lines of like a Ben Shapiro or a Lazy Boat.

[B]

Is he one of that crew or is it like older, younger?

[A]

I'd say. I don't know if they. If they run in the same circles, but it seems like they might. Unless there's like beef.

[B]

Is he. Is it a young white guy?

[A]

Yeah, young.

[B]

Like how young?

[A]

A young white around the age of Harry Sisson.

[B]

Okay. Because there's a. There's like a trio of them. One is Dean something.

[A]

Yeah, that's a guy. Yeah, I think that's him. No, maybe it's not. Because I know who you're talking. The Dean Withers or whatever. Yes, yes.

[B]

TikTok debates all the time.

[A]

It might be him, but this dude, he just like. You can't even understand what. He goes so fast.

[B]

I was going to say, though, about Kobe. Kobe fans are probably the, like the most vociferous fans of any individual athlete.

[A]

Because it's not just about, like, it's not a lot.

[B]

You've got a lot to defend.

[C]

You got a lot to.

[A]

But you also have, like, the mentality.

[B]

Mamba.

[A]

They take on the Mamba mentality in their defense of Kobe. Like, that's how they enter the Mamba verse.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

When they're talking about Kobe, I found the guy. His name is his. His YouTube page is scap attack. And he, like, I'm so.

[A]

So.

[C]

If you have time, watch this debate. And it is insane. It's. Let's see it. Released five days ago, got 100,000 views. One Kobe Bryant fan versus 10 Kobe haters.

[A]

I love that.

[C]

And what I love about it is, like, I'm a huge Kobe fan, but I. I don't think he's the greatest player of all time. But the way he argues for it or, like, for. He'll say. He'll say, arguably Michael Jordan. He'll. He'll entertain that. Jordan is the best ever. But, like, he's not going for LeBron better than Kobe. He's not going for Kareem better than Kobe. He's not going for Magic better than Kobe. He's not going for none of that shit. Like, and the weight, like, dog. There are certain people who have a knack for the. And maybe he's just, like, a super nerd, but the stats, the context in which he puts his arguments, it's impressive, though. Like, it is. It is impressive. Like, just check out that debate. It's insane.

[A]

I also want to know how the. How the Kobe haters, how they prepared for this debate. Like, did they put in the prep work that the Kobe fan did?

[C]

They. They were pretty good. I'm not gonna lie. It's just. He was more impressive. Like, they had all the stats. They had stats, they had this, they had that. But, like, he just had. It's like. So, like, in philosophy class, they taught you how to prepare for, like, the opposing argument. You would have to steel man the argument.

[A]

Right?

[C]

So if you're arguing for whatever healthcare in the US or, I'm sorry, you know, universal healthcare, pfd, I would have to know every opposing argument to that better than the person arguing for it. That's how they teach you to debate and, like, philosophy. This guy, I think he did that. He's like. He knows every single argument against Kobe, and he has stats and historical. It's just. It's. It's impressive, though. Like, I. I couldn't. I guess it takes a lot of time. I couldn't. But, hey, shout out to that dude.

[B]

Did you all see the. The teaser that I sent for Toy Story 5?

[C]

I'm excited about that, brother.

[B]

Did you see it?

[C]

No. Yeah, I saw it. It's the. The age of the tablet.

[B]

Yeah. The iPad is the. The antagonist.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

Yeah. I actually think that's a really good premise.

[A]

They're kind of stealing my idea for Top Gun 3, which is the drones, but no, I like. I like that. Is it Woody against the tablet?

[B]

It seems it's all the toys.

[C]

All the toys.

[A]

My money's on Woody.

[B]

The. But the box shows up, and they're all shaken, and then the. They're scared, and they open the tablet and they're like, oh, no, we're done.

[A]

Do they. How do you think they're gonna fight the tablet?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Do you think they're gonna. They could get a magnet? They could. I think they're gonna have to show inside the tablet.

[B]

First of all, I want to know where they are, because what was the.

[C]

I think they. The second kids, Sunnyside. Wasn't they? Yeah, Sunnyside.

[B]

Oh, they're at. They're at the daycare.

[C]

I don't know. But I'm saying, last we left off Toy Story 4, that's. They all got shipped to Sunnyside. Right.

[B]

I just remember that the. The girl, like, left, Right. I don't. I. I forget. But wherever they're at. Yeah, they're. They're taking on technology. I think that's got. That's got promise.

[A]

It does. I think they haven't missed. Do you think they're going to, like, get into the tablet? Like, they. There will be a game where they. They play it on the tablet. And the game is based around whether it's Buzz or Woody or any, like, iconic toys inside the tablet. And then the characters inside the tablet convince the kid put the tablet down, play with the real thing.

[B]

I think they just have to show the kid through love and friendship that. That real toys are the way.

[A]

You're probably right. Yeah, that seems like a good idea.

[C]

So I asked because I didn't. I didn't know. So at the end of Toy Story 4, the Toys End up in two different places. They split up for the first time in a series. Woody stays with Bo Peep after realizing his purpose is no longer tied to being a child's toy. Woody decides to stay with both Peep and help lost toys find new owners or freedom. He essentially becomes a free toy, traveling with the carnival. Buzz Lightyear and the rest of the gang stay with Bonnie Buzz, Jesse, Rex, Ham, Skinny, and the others return to Bonnie's RV to continue being her toys. I forgot. They split up. And Bonnie was the little girl that Andy gave his kids his toys to.

[B]

Correct. When's that coming up?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

I'm excited.

[C]

That's. I mean, they haven't missed. I mean, you could argue each one was better than the last. And I'll hear that argument.

[B]

June 2026 could be the day of my wedding. Maybe we go hit that. That. That morning.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then we'll come back.

[C]

Pfc. Are you going to his wedding? Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I think so.

[B]

That was an interesting sounding.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You don't have to go.

[A]

Well, I don't. I don't know the details yet.

[C]

I know.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

So you know the date. You don't need to know.

[B]

You didn't get your. You didn't get to save the date.

[A]

I haven't checked my mail in a little bit. Oh, it might be.

[C]

Is that in the mail?

[D]

I got mine, I think.

[B]

I didn't send one to you because I knew you probably wouldn't get it anyway, but I could. Yeah. I'll just text you the website that' on it. It's got everything.

[C]

Yeah. Just give me a little picture. Say the date or just text the date.

[A]

Big T. I might be out of the country because that might fall. It falls, like right around when we typically take our.

[B]

I promise you will not hurt my feelings.

[A]

Yes. If I am in the country, then yes, I plan on going to.

[B]

I think there are some of. Some friends whose feelings you might hurt because I think there are other people looking forward to you being there. But my feelings will not be hurt.

[A]

If I'm in the country, I will go.

[B]

That's fair.

[A]

If it's not. If it's not during a pre planned vacation, I will go.

[B]

Fair enough.

[A]

I don't think I'll. I'm not going to cancel the vacation.

[B]

Because I wouldn't want you to.

[A]

But I will get you a nice gift if I'm not there.

[B]

You don't have to do that.

[A]

You'd be so mad if I didn't get you a gift.

[B]

Honestly, like, I really. I'm not a wedding guy. I don't. I don't love going to them. I don't love all the hoopla around them. So anyone that doesn't, like, want to make a big deal about my wedding, I promise I will not be offended.

[C]

Mm.

[B]

I'd prefer you didn't.

[A]

Okay. You'd prefer I didn't well, the.

[B]

The royal.

[A]

You Gotcha.

[B]

Okay, like, if you want to give me a gift that's very nice, I won't reject it, but anyone that, like, doesn't want to go to the wedding, don't worry about it.

[A]

No, I would very much like to go to the wedding. I would very much like to get you a nice gift. We'll just see how that date shakes up.

[C]

I've made a decision on what kind of dog I'm gonna get. You have? I've made a decision on what dog I was. I'm gonna get. If I get a dog, I'll put it like that.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Giant red lab.

[A]

Giant red lab. That's what I have.

[C]

You said what?

[D]

That's what my dog is.

[C]

You got a giant red lab. You didn't say. Why don't you say nothing? Maybe you did.

[D]

You didn't say red lab earlier. Oh, my God, Aryan. They're the perfect, perfect dog. They look like Clifford.

[A]

I'm looking at these right now. I'm. I'm not. I'm not super familiar with them.

[D]

They're. My parents paid a lot of money for him. Unfortunately, I love my dog more than anything on Earth, but that's. They're not. They're not everywhere. They're hunting dogs.

[C]

It's gonna be like 15 or 20 in my. In my book, maybe even less than that. But if I do pull the trigger, they are.

[D]

Aryan, I cannot stress to you. A ton of our family friends have red labs, including my own family. And every single one of them is precious and amazing and wonderful, wonderful family dog.

[A]

So here. Here's.

[C]

Here's. Here's where. Here's where I'm at with this. All right? I do want one. Maybe. Um, but I see there's two different ones.

[D]

There's English and American.

[C]

Okay, I wasn't even talking about that. That's probably more specific than I was talking about. And I'm. Send it to the group chat. Okay.

[A]

Boy or girl?

[C]

It's a little bit more.

[A]

No, it's a little bit more service level than that.

[C]

Okay. And I'll let you. I'll let you see the difference.

[A]

Okay. That's the. That's the first one, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And this could all be, like, user error, but I see. I see a distinct difference. And this is why this has a lot of. That's the percentile, right?

[D]

That's the English versus American.

[B]

First one. Way better.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. I don't want no fat dog.

[D]

Oh, mine is minus the second Dog.

[C]

I'm not like the first one. That's the type cat I want though. Like, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I mean, that's a double.

[C]

It was probably confusing, but you know what I'm saying? The second one, get this away from me. This ugly looking. Oh, well, chunky ass. I don't want it.

[A]

You can decide how much.

[D]

You also decide how fat it is.

[C]

That's why I said I don't know if it's a user error kind of.

[A]

Yeah, it might be user build thing, but.

[B]

Well, the first one looks more like a lab, while the second one looks more like kind of a retriever.

[A]

So to describe these two pictures for the audience out there, the first one seems to be a dog that is that. That dog has a sense of duty, regal honor and respect. Like, this is a dog that John Cena would raise.

[B]

Shout out, just retired.

[A]

I'm sure that'll last. The second dog is just a big chunker. Just a big, big adorable little nugget.

[D]

Mine is a chunker, but also, I will say the, the style of dog you want is lazy. No.

[C]

Is.

[A]

I think he want.

[C]

I want him to be able. My, My whole thing is I want to be able to take him on my golf course and he walk it with me. Okay?

[D]

That's what my dog.

[C]

So we gonna move. I'm active, you know what I'm saying? I told you, the abs start to peeking a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Mac, they starting to come back. So I need a dog that can do both, you know, the duality of man. Sometimes I want to be lazy, but sometimes it's time to get it, you little red lab. You know what I mean? And so I need, I need somebody that can, you know, I need a bipolar dog. Sometimes we feel good, sometimes we feel bad.

[A]

I think that first dog, that dog stands on business.

[C]

That's what I need.

[A]

Second dog stands on biscuits. Yeah, but they're both, they're both good dogs.

[D]

Yes, but they're the same breed.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. That's, that's, that's what I'm like.

[D]

This is my dog doing here, Aaron. I just sent a video of my dog. My dog is on the chunkier side. I mean, every ounce of him is filled with love. Every.

[C]

Yeah, he looks when I see him and he moves. I, I hear don't throw.

[D]

That's a very good way to describe my dog. Yes, but my dog is also eight. So he's also. I mean, he's lived some life.

[A]

Now. Aaron, do you Know, do you want a boy. Got a boy dog or a girl dog?

[C]

I was thinking a boy, because I don't want to deal with, like, the period and.

[A]

Well, you get a period to get him neutered. If you get them spayed, then they don't get the. They don't go into heat.

[D]

You.

[C]

Yeah, okay. And so, so what. What would be the difference in demeanor, like, behavior, like, between boys and girls? Like, is there. Is there a difference?

[A]

I think it really depends on the dog. There are some individual. There's some girl dogs. That can be real. Yes. That was a joke. That was a. That's a. A word joke.

[C]

Man is sexist towards dogs.

[A]

Actually, all female dogs are. I'll just say it.

[C]

Facts.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Brave.

[A]

But I think it depends, dog to dog, more than it depends on. On the gender of the dog. But I think that. I think this is a good choice.

[D]

Red lab is such a good dog area. Any color lab, but specifically red lab are amazing, amazing choices because they're gonna.

[A]

Be smart, they're gonna be friendly, they're gonna be loyal.

[D]

They are really athletic. If you train them to be.

[B]

That's.

[C]

That's the vibe I want. I don't want. I can't have what you got. No disrespect.

[D]

No. No disrespect. My dog can't. My dog enjoys a lot of the finer things in life.

[A]

Have you guys. I actually have a great. A great toy for your dog once you get it kind of toy, man. It's a. It's a Hank doll. We're making Hank dog toys, and it's Blake's favorite thing in the entire world.

[C]

So would you suggest dude or a female?

[A]

I would say. I would say either one. I would say either one. But if you get. Yeah, if you get a female dog, definitely have it spayed. If you get a male dog, you should have it neutered as well.

[C]

How. How early do you cut their stuff off or whatever they do to make it?

[A]

So some breeds, they recommend different things, but I would say for the most part, by like six months to a year is kind of when you typically do it.

[D]

Also, it depends for boy versus girl. Girl dogs are usually on the smaller side of the breed. So if you want a bigger giant red lab, you would want to get a male.

[A]

That is true.

[B]

All right.

[D]

Like, my dog is 110 pounds, but then there are some labs that are like 65, 70 pounds that are feeding.

[C]

I'd say 110. That's a big ass.

[D]

Again, I told you he Enjoys finer things in life. He wants for nothing.

[C]

What do you. I mean, what do you feed these things?

[A]

Dog food, Farmer's dog.

[C]

Oh, just regular dog. Like, if I was to be like ridiculously over the top and only feed him like amazing food, what would I get him?

[A]

Farmer's dog's pretty good. That's what Blake eats. But yeah, you can. I mean, you can also get a.

[C]

40 pound steak and like that.

[A]

Yeah, it comes in these little bags and then you just cut them open and Blake loves it. So it's good food. Or you can go kibble. I mean, at. If you have a Costco membership, it's like 40 bucks for a giant bag of dry food, which is pretty good food too.

[C]

I'm sure there is, but if you heard of. There's any kind of studies on like giving them real food versus dog food.

[A]

Oh, if you, like, cook for your dog.

[C]

I'm not cooking for a.

[A]

You said real.

[C]

Talk about, like, I'm talking about. Yeah, like you get a mistake or you get them like actual meat or actual whatever the dogs eat.

[A]

Yeah. If you dive, like really into it, you can find out that some dogs do really well on a raw diet. So I remember when. When I got leroy back in 2008, I think, and I did a lot of research on what to feed them, and there are some people out there that just go to the butcher and they buy like whole chickens and they just for their dog's meal, they just put their dog out in the backyard and give them a whole raw chicken and then they eat everything, like the bones and. And that just seemed. That seemed like a lot of work. A little messy. So, yeah, we can, we can talk about the ins and outs of. Of pet nutrition if you want.

[C]

I'm like. I think the other day I was like 60 something percent. I'm like. I'm like 70 something percent now. I want. I think I want one of these little.

[A]

I love that. I love that. Have you thought about, thought about a name?

[C]

It's got to be cool.

[A]

Yeah, it does.

[C]

Like Eric or something. You know, Jet. No. That's horrible. The Jet. Red lightning, Red light. Yeah.

[A]

Ginger Brewer. Brewer is a good name for a dog.

[C]

I don't hate that, man.

[A]

That's a good dog name. Brewer.

[C]

You can call him Brewski and shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Kind of like Brewer.

[B]

What's, what's. Is it Bernie Brewer? Is that the mascot?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Name your dog Bernie?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I think that works for you on several levels.

[C]

No, I don't look at my dog and think about Politics.

[A]

It's a labor door retriever. If you have your dog named, that's a good. A good sound to yell at a dog, too. Brewer. Like, the dog will respond. There's some people that. That give their dogs names that have a lot of soft sounds in them, and it's like, the dog's not gonna be able to differentiate that from all the other words you gotta have.

[B]

Brewer.

[A]

That's good.

[B]

You like consonants?

[A]

You like a good consonant? Yeah.

[C]

The first one we had was named Sugar. My sister named her. She was a. Okay. I'm just being honest. Dog.

[B]

The dog.

[C]

I shit you not. You guys.

[B]

My mom.

[C]

Huh?

[B]

The dog.

[C]

Yeah, the dog was a.

[B]

Got it.

[C]

Yeah. No, no, no, no. Not my sister. I'm talking about the dogs.

[B]

It's giving you a chance.

[C]

And we lived in the.

[A]

You know.

[C]

I mean, you know, bad neighborhood, but, like. So there's a bunch of stray dogs. Dog, I shit you not. Every night she would come back and, like, 10 dogs would walk her home. It was the weirdest shit. They would all, like, see her off. She would come back in the house, and they all leave. I'm like, what the is this? It was so weird, dog. It was so weird. And then the other one we had was Shadow. I felt bad for that dog. Cause we was too broke to have a dog. We couldn't even feed that thing. It was bad. But it ended up having a. I mean, she ended up having an okay life.

[A]

It's very funny to imagine Sugar coming home and like. Or she's in the house and then, like, three dogs come up to the front door and knock.

[C]

They. I'm not joking. They would. They wouldn't knock, but they would, like, stand in the front yard like, yo, where's she at? And we let her out, and they would go off. I'm like, yo, this is wild, bro.

[A]

Like, you're a.

[C]

And my. My last one was named Yoko. He was cool. I was. That was my dog. He passed.

[A]

Yeah, that was the. The husky, right?

[C]

Yep, Husky.

[A]

Beautiful.

[C]

Beautiful dog, man.

[B]

I'm looking at Martin Labradors of Houston.

[C]

Martin Labradors. What is that?

[B]

It's a. It's a breeder. They're currently sold out of all puppies. See.

[A]

I just got a little gift in the mail a couple days ago. My Coleman thermos got here.

[B]

Nice. Is it good?

[A]

I was supposed. I meant to bring it in today. I haven't used it yet.

[B]

The cooler, too?

[A]

Cooler too. Yeah.

[B]

Hell, yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I'll have to bring that in next week. Also next week we're going to try to get that congressperson on. They couldn't make the episode today because they have a big vote because they're back at work. So, yeah, unfortunately, we couldn't make that happen. But we will stay in touch. And again, if you are a sitting Congress person, we'll have you on the show.

[B]

We'd love to get a senator at some point.

[A]

Who do you think the most likely senator to come on this show is?

[B]

I mean, somebody young. So that narrows the field quite a bit.

[A]

Just going through the list here. There's a lot of no's and there.

[C]

Won'T be a senator.

[D]

I mean, would Marsha Blackburn come on Big T?

[B]

I don't think she knows what. What we've got going on here.

[D]

What about. I. Cory Booker loves to just talk into the void.

[A]

Yeah, he certainly does about a whole lot of nothing. We could probably trick Fetterman into coming on.

[B]

Jon Ossoff seems like a guy who would be like, I want to go on a barstool sports show.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Schumer.

[A]

No, no, I. I think Ruben Gallego from Arizona. He does a lot of. I've seen him doing a lot of media.

[D]

Ted Cruz.

[A]

Ted Cruz does love podcasts.

[C]

Yeah, I would love to have Ted Cruz on.

[A]

Would you? What?

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

All right. You're a big fan.

[C]

No, quite the opposite.

[D]

You're.

[C]

I would love just to ask him questions. Like, I would ask him a bunch of questions and watch him squirm.

[D]

Aren't you his constituent?

[A]

Technically, I am, neighbor.

[D]

Mark Kelly would be cool to talk about space.

[A]

Oh, the astronaut. Yeah, he would be. I'm just looking through the list right now, seeing if anybody else jumps out as a. As a podcast whore.

[D]

Is Ed. Is Ed Markey a podcast whore?

[C]

I see him on the news podcast Horrors Wild.

[A]

I mean, you know, there are podcast whores out there.

[D]

Cory Booker, I think, is a big one.

[C]

Would we be. Are we podcast whores? I mean, we're. Are we podcast pimps?

[A]

Pimps. We're pimps, yeah. Podcast.

[C]

Podcast pimping, baby.

[A]

We're podcast dealers. Maybe whores are on the wrong. Podcast junkie would be like, yeah, like Cory Booker. I could see him being a podcast junkie, and then he needs his fix and he'd get right. I haven't been on podcast for a while. We got you. We got you. First one's free. The second one's going to cost you. Corey Knees in her pocket. That's how we roll. So, yeah, we'll. We'll have a congressperson on. In the near future once once things get sorted. But today's episode is being brought to you by Sport Clips Haircuts. You know what a classic rookie mistake is not going to Sport Clips Haircuts. Guys come in looking like they've just been sacked by a 250 pound linebacker, but they walk out looking like a first round pick. Sport Clips stylists have the playbook for a clean cut. They've mastered the X's and O's of men's hair. And with the MVP haircut experience, you get that hot steam towel, you get the massaging shampoo, you get the precision cut, the whole nine yards. And once you step into Sport Clips, you're walking into a zone for guys. The games are on. The stylists just get it. This is a place designed for guys to win and walk out with a haircut. Ready for the highlight reel Sport Clips. It is a game changer. And today's episode is also brought to you by our good friends at Quint's. I got a bunch of Quince clothes once they started sponsoring our show and let me tell you, they've become some of my favorites. They're in hot rotation. I love the Quince polo shirt. They've got some great long sleeve shirts, great pants and they look great. They're awesome in terms of how comfortable they are, which is my number one. But they also happen to look really, really good. If you got cold mornings holiday plans, that's when you want your war, your wardrobe to be simple. Stuff that looks sharp, feels good. Things that I will actually wear. For me, that's Quince. And the bonus is Quints makes great gifts too. The season's lineup is simple, it's smart and it's Easy with quince. $50 Mongolian cashmere sweaters that feel like an everyday luxury. And you also have things like wool coats. It's coach season that are equal parts stylish and durable. Their denim nails, the fit and everyday comfort all at a fraction of what you expect to pay. By partnering directly with ethical factories and top artisans, Quince cuts out the middlemen. They deliver premium quality at half the cost of other high end brands. So you can give luxury quality pieces without the luxury price tag. Give and get timeless holiday staples. They last this season with quince. Go to quince.comdose get free shipping on your order. 365 day returns now available in Canada. That's Q U I n c e.com/dose free shipping 365 day returns quince.com/dose check it out.

[B]

Real Quick. I am. Since I clicked on the Toy Story teaser, I'm on a very weird side of the Internet right now on my for you page. And there are people that are like, adults, presumably, who are remarkably upset about this. This person said Disney basically saying Toy Story 4 is skippable and has no impact is fucking hysterical. This scene doesn't mean shit now. And it's the end of the movie where Woody and them stay or whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And someone replied, I mean, that's kind of good. If TS5 turns out to be good, then we can just say 4 is non canon like cars 2. And if it's bad, we can just ignore both films and continue to say Toy Story is a trilogy. There are people that are really deep into this.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, that's.

[B]

This is like the Disney adult people non canon.

[A]

Yeah. You've ruined my childhood by. By changing the rules of this Toy Story movie.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, what a.

[A]

Star wars fans are like this too.

[B]

Yeah, but Star wars is at least made for adults. Yes. Kind of like these are children's movies and you're worried about what is and is not canon.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. It's like the Simpsons. Is the Simpsons movie canon? I don't think that it is.

[B]

It's not. I liked the Simpsons.

[A]

I thought it was good, too.

[B]

Remember when Homer's getting on a wrecking ball between a rock and the bar called the Hard Place?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Funny. That's funny stuff.

[A]

That movie had had child nudity.

[B]

Is that true?

[A]

Yeah. Bart was, like, skateboarding naked and they showed his dick.

[B]

It's been a long time since I've seen it.

[A]

Pretty wild stuff that can't be canon. Like, that doesn't fit in with the rest. No, absolutely not. But, yeah, that was. That was a really good movie. I thought doing that ad read for Quince, which, by the way, is actually. I really enjoy the clothes that we got from them. I'm in an ongoing legal dispute with one of their competitors right now.

[C]

Let's go, L.L.

[A]

Bean. Me and L.L. bean, we are. I think it might be pending litigation.

[B]

What'd you do?

[A]

Well, my mom got me a nice L.L. bean shirt for Christmas a couple years ago. I think maybe it was last year, and I enjoyed it. It was the wrong size, which is fine, but they have a return policy, so I. I returned it. Send it back to them. I wrote what I would like for the exchange in terms of size. They sent me the new shirt, and they also tacked on like A$65 for a restocking fee or it was either restocking or some sort of extra shipping fee. I forget which it was, but along with the shirt that they sent me, it was also a bill saying that I owed L.L. bean, like A$65.

[B]

Please tell me you're not in a dispute over a dollar.

[A]

It's not really so much of a dispute as it is. I'm, I'm not going to pay you $1.65.

[B]

Are you having communications back and forth with these people about that?

[A]

They are having communications with me.

[B]

Because it seems like your options are you either pay it or you just don't.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you've chose. You've just done nothing.

[A]

I've, I've, I've gone with the route of I don't think that they're going to really take this to the mat. Over 165.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Now is there a chance that they, they put me to collections and then, and then my credit gets ruined because of A$65?

[B]

Are. Are they even allowed to do that over a dollar?

[A]

I don't know. I don't. See, that's what I'm thinking. I assume that they won't, like, you got to write that off.

[B]

Is this a risk you're willing to take?

[A]

I think it is. Out of the principle of it. Yeah.

[B]

But, like, you make a lot of dollars over the course of a year. One you literally would not notice.

[A]

I probably. Yeah, I would notice it because I would. Time is money, you know that.

[B]

Big T. Yeah.

[A]

You're a capitalist.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's going to take me five to 10 minutes.

[B]

Not even close.

[A]

To pay that.

[B]

Yeah, not even close.

[A]

Yeah, because. Okay, let's, let's. Okay, I gotta. I gotta open up a piece of mail from L.L. bean. I have to look on the, on the little bill that they send me what website to go to. I've got to go to it on my phone. The WI fi probably won't connect the first time. So then I'll have to disconnect and reconnect to the WI fi. Then I have to go to the website. I have to click the login or whatever at the top right hand corner. It's going to be a really small icon that I have to click. I'll probably miss it once with my thumb. Second time I'll click it. Then it'll say, we need you to create an account. Then I'll have to put in my email address a password that probably will need a capital letter, a number, maybe even a special character. God help me. If it has to be at least 10 characters. Then I get an email to verify that I've logged in, create an account, then I have to click on that, reenter my password. That might be 10 characters long. Hope to God I remember what that password was. Get into the website, find my order, find how much I owe, take out my debit or credit card, enter the number in with security code, and then send that off. That is at least a 10 minute job.

[B]

You're looking at this through the lens of your time is worth more than a dollar, which is true.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But you need to be looking at it through the lens of is. Is this worth potentially impacting your credit?

[A]

Well, when am I going to buy another. I just bought a house. I. I have the house. They're not going to take my house away from me.

[B]

You got it? I would honestly get any cars in the near future.

[A]

I would take my hat off to. To L.L. bean if they did end up getting my house away from me because I owed him a buck 65.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Put a lien on it. Possibly purchasing a car. That is one thing I have.

[B]

You should get on that.

[A]

Why?

[B]

In case this goes south.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'll just go straight cash homie. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Which is another reason you should just pay the dollar.

[A]

Yeah. Do you know who that quotes from?

[B]

Straight cash homie. That was. Don't say it. Straight cash homie. It's a basketball player.

[C]

No kite.

[A]

Well, kind of.

[B]

It's not because you're going to lead.

[C]

Him in the wrong direction.

[A]

Yeah, I know. It's a football player.

[B]

Is it Marshawn Lynch?

[A]

Nope.

[D]

Nope.

[B]

Straight cash homie.

[A]

Straight cash homie.

[B]

I know.

[C]

Straight cash homie.

[A]

I can give you an additional clue if you.

[B]

What is it?

[A]

In the same conversation they said, do you regret doing that? And he goes, no. Next time I might shake my dick at him.

[B]

Well, that didn't help at all. I know this quote. Why did. All right, we're going to continue with the show and at some point I'm going to have the revelation and I'll just interject.

[A]

Do you want position?

[B]

No. Straight cash homie.

[A]

Yeah, it sounds better when you say when y'.

[C]

All. When you cut this back, I want that clip. Just send me that little tidbit straight. I'm going to use that so much.

[B]

It's a guy. It's a guy talking about a fine. Right? Yeah, I can see it. And I don't know who. Now, it's interesting that y' all said basketball was kind of right.

[A]

Well, I don't want to lead you down the wrong path. Arian's right. Nobody in their right mind would ever think of this person as being a basketball player. Does footage, prolific footage exist of him playing basketball at one point in his life? Yes.

[B]

So this is. Is that like a high school tape or something? Yes, straight. What the. Just go on.

[A]

Go on with the show. That Arian. That's going to be a banger meme.

[B]

This is bothering me.

[C]

I. I'm gonna. You. I have two memes that I use in my rotation with big T. Yeah, that's gonna be another one.

[B]

What are they?

[C]

One is when you sat down, you said, that's.

[B]

I don't remember that.

[D]

That's.

[A]

You.

[B]

Oh, is it. Who was I saying it to?

[C]

I think you were watching a Tennessee game. Like.

[B]

Oh, that was the. No, I know. Okay, that was the 2022 Alabama Tennessee game. And it was. I forget what the call was, but it was egregious. I also spiked my phone right before that, and it ended up. The battery almost exploded and could have been very disastrous.

[C]

Yep, here it is right there.

[A]

Sending to the group.

[B]

And the other one is. Is it the cigar?

[C]

No, I made a. I made a fire ass beat off of that.

[A]

It was good.

[D]

Good game. Me.

[C]

Yeah. Y. Well, that's it.

[A]

Y.

[C]

Good game. Me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Touchdown.

[B]

Good game. Me.

[A]

All right. Do you have any other guesses for straight cash only?

[B]

I. Dude, I can't. Can't.

[A]

I thought you were.

[C]

He's thinking, should I put out an apb? Anybody that knows somebody who's selling skinny giant red labs.

[B]

How far are you willing to drive?

[C]

Well, depends on how.

[B]

Oh, that. This guy hates driving.

[D]

I forgot 20 minutes.

[C]

No.

[A]

Who.

[C]

Who hates driving? No, no, no, no. Okay. I hate driving for things I don't want to do.

[D]

I will say.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I had to get up this morning to do a doctor's appointment.

[A]

It took me.

[C]

Took everything in me to go.

[D]

My parents got my dog flown in.

[A]

What?

[C]

Oh, down here. Dogs getting flew down.

[D]

So they went and picked him up at the special cargo part of the airport.

[C]

I'll do that. I'll do that. I'll pick him up from the airport sometimes.

[B]

Sometimes you'll find a breeder you like. But it's three hours away.

[C]

Yeah, like that's what. So I was looking in the Houston and Texas area. They look like they all fat.

[D]

You gotta go to Midwest.

[C]

I don't want no fat red dog. I want a skinny in shape mother so that, you know, those genes carry over.

[A]

But sometimes after several litters, the hips get Wide. That's just. That's just how the dog body, it evolves. Well, I need a first time mother then.

[D]

Well, like, my parents are obviously in Cleveland and my dog was from Wisconsin. Yanson, sometimes you gotta go that far to get the love of your life.

[C]

I need that. I need that.

[D]

I can send you my parents. Breeder.

[A]

Or maybe there's an Uber for dogs.

[B]

Where.

[C]

But your dog, your dog is your dog's kind.

[D]

Again, my dog is fat by environment, not fat by genetics.

[C]

Fair enough. I'm just saying. Yeah. I'm about to tweet it and then people who listen to this podcast, you know, hit me up. I'm looking for a giant red lab, skinny red lab breeder.

[A]

I would, I would like if there was an Uber for dogs. That might be another good business idea.

[C]

That's actually a great idea.

[A]

And I think I would. I think I would enjoy doing that job being an Uber driver. But just like I pick up dogs.

[D]

There is Uber pet.

[A]

Well, yeah, that's. But it. A human has to ride too.

[C]

Are you talking about the dog just gets in?

[A]

Yeah. Gets in.

[D]

Where's he going?

[A]

Like daycare.

[C]

Yeah, daycare.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Like, sometimes traffic's bad. It's been a long. It's been a long day. I don't really want to make the drive up there, find a parking spot. I mean, I do and it's fine, but there, There have been times when I'm like, man, I wish somebody could just.

[C]

That would bump up my 70 to 80 if there was a dog. Uber where I could be like, yo, just take him to the cleaners real quick.

[A]

Boom, boom.

[C]

Bring him back. Oh, my God, yes.

[A]

Yeah. Or just take him for a drive. That's another thing. Like, dogs love going for rides in the car. Like, I'll drive your dog around for 30 minutes. You can have a live stream. You can watch the dog if you want to check in.

[B]

So there is Uber pet.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where you can request an Uber pet trip for you and your pet.

[A]

I've done that before. There's. There's a couple bars in town that welcome dogs. And so I'll go to that bar and I'll have a few beers. Do not want to drive.

[C]

And then.

[A]

Yeah, just. Blake, come on.

[B]

But then could be responsible. You just not go along.

[A]

Well, yeah, I mean, obviously. No, I think that you have to have a human in the car. How much could you charge just for like a, like an hour long car ride for a dog?

[C]

You can't. You can't charge more than a human did see that. And that's where dog people lose me know, they start doing like that.

[A]

Yeah. All right. Some good business. Ide.

[B]

Well, what would an hour long Uber?

[C]

No, I think it's a good idea. You can't. You can't charge. You can't charge dog more than people. You can't. It's. That's ridiculous. I agree.

[A]

No, I think some places would try to do that. Not me. I. I deliver fair prices. I care about the pets first. Their enjoyment is number one, my profits number two. I think that I could do an hour in the car and you could have your selection of back roads or highway. I feel like back roads, that's a premium because then, you know, I take that back.

[C]

You might have to charge more.

[D]

What if the poops or peas in the car?

[C]

You're. You're an hour in the car. That's gas.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, you have to. You have to recoup that.

[D]

And if you're dropping it off somewhere, like, you'd have to get out and open the door and, like, let him.

[C]

Inside or the door, take him in and. Yeah, there's too. Too many logistics. I'm not doing it.

[A]

I think I'm just. Right now, I'm just talking about that. That is one idea. But also.

[D]

But just to drive, just driving around.

[A]

I think you charge more money if you're. If you're driving through neighborhoods because it's start and stop. You have to pay more attention. Also, the dogs will probably see other dogs on a walk, which is like a premium for them, so you can upcharge for that as opposed to just a highway drive. And yeah, if they pee or poop in the car, we got a cleaning fee, just like Uber does.

[D]

I was gonna say, I guess there's a human cleaning fee too.

[A]

There is. Yeah. And also surge pricing. If there's a full moon, the dogs want to be outside. All right. Yeah. Something to think about when cool, creamy.

[B]

Ranch meets tangy, bold buffalo. The hole is greater than the sum of its sauce. Say howdy, partner to new Buffalo. Buffalo ranch sauce only at McDonald's for a limited time. A participating McDonald's.

[C]

All right, sending out the APB.

[A]

Good luck, Aaron.

[B]

By the way, it's Randy Moss.

[C]

I had to Google it.

[A]

Oh, you Googled it.

[B]

I went back and forth, but I was never gonna get there.

[A]

It was Randy Moss. How are you gonna pay for that? That. Fine. That was the. The famous Joe Buck.

[B]

Oh, the mooning when he's like, have.

[A]

You ever seen a disgusting act?

[B]

And I did not know that those were.

[A]

Yeah. Somebody was like, how are you going to pay for that? Fine. You're going to write a check. He goes, straight cash, homie. And then they said, do you regret it? He's like, no. Next time I might shake my dick at him.

[B]

I did not know he. He continued on to say that. Is his, like, high school basketball tape renowned.

[A]

Yeah. Because he played with Jason Williams.

[C]

Right.

[B]

I knew that as of recently, but I didn't know that. I've never seen it.

[A]

Yeah, I've seen a. I've seen a few highlights. Pretty. Yeah. Incredible stuff. That team must have been a real problem.

[B]

I would assume so.

[A]

In. Was that Huntington, West Virginia. Rand. West Virginia. Yeah.

[B]

I just know West Virginia. Huntington is where Marshall is.

[A]

Yep. Who they play last weekend. Oh, jmu.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Beat him pretty bad.

[B]

Nice. I'm not going back to college to be your friend. I'm going so I can get Uber one for students. It saves you on Uber and Uber eats. I'm there for $0 delivery fee on cheeseburgers, up to 10% off smoothies, and 6% Uber credits back on rides. Just to be clear, I'm there for savings, not whatever you think college is for.

[A]

Get Uber one for students. A membership to save on Uber and Uber eats. With deals this good, everyone wants to be a student.

[D]

Join for just 4.99amonth.

[B]

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[D]

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[A]

All right, do you guys want to talk a little bit about some other carriage disputes right now and. And media consolidation?

[B]

Yeah. Would have been better if we had the congressman, but. Yeah, we can still do it.

[A]

It would be. Yeah, but the YouTube Disney debate is still ongoing. Or I guess the dispute is still ongoing.

[C]

I keep getting emails from YouTube, but I don't do good with mail in general.

[B]

So.

[C]

What are they talking about?

[A]

There's. They're trying to give you $20. They're saying. Our bad. Sorry, that. Sorry that we don't have espn.

[B]

Well, you are aware that if you. Do you have YouTube TV?

[C]

I do not. I. I do this. The NFL ticket. That's not YouTube TV, right.

[B]

That is through YouTube TV, but it's kind of a separate thing. What. So then why are you getting emails from YouTube?

[C]

We could just check, I guess. Right.

[B]

Who's your. Do you have, like, cable?

[C]

No, no, I just have Hulu. I probably am paying for too much shit. I don't know. It's just okay to say hi, Bobby. We've been working in good faith to negotiate a deal with Disney that pays them fairly for their content. And returns their program to you programming to YouTube TV. We know it's been disappointing to lose Disney content, and we want you to know how deeply we appreciate your patience. In light of disruption, we're offering our.

[A]

Subscribers a 20 credit.

[C]

To redeem your credit, please go to updates tab and membership. See, I'm not doing this. It's too much.

[B]

I guess you probably get those since you have Sunday Ticket, which is through them.

[C]

So wait, Hulu does Disney as well, right? Yeah, I think I just get my Disney through Hulu.

[A]

So.

[B]

Yes, Hulu is owned by Disney. So you probably have the package where you get like Disney plus Hulu and ESPN.

[C]

I got that.

[B]

So you're aware that ESPN currently is not on YouTube TV?

[C]

I've not checked for ESPN and I don't know how long, so I didn't know that.

[B]

Okay, so they're in a dispute where there are no Disney owned channels on YouTube TV, which is all of the ESPN, ABC, a few others.

[C]

So. So you can't get games on those games on YouTube TV.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Even though people.

[C]

So. So if I have Sunday Ticket and Hulu, this is not a thing for me.

[A]

Except for Monday Night Football.

[B]

Well, he doesn't have YouTube TV.

[A]

But would he just get offered $20 for.

[B]

I think he just gets those emails because he has Sunday Ticket, which I.

[A]

Think you have to. Which is through YouTube, through YouTube TV.

[B]

But it's a separate circus.

[C]

All right. Yeah, but I don't have YouTube TV.

[A]

You sure?

[C]

I'm positive.

[A]

I have YouTube Premium. Okay, what if he.

[B]

What if he paid for YouTube TV when he got Sunday Ticket and he just doesn't know it?

[A]

That's what I think might be.

[C]

I might be. Okay, how do you check?

[A]

Okay, good. All right, here's what you do. Go to YouTube TV and the login page and then try to log in.

[B]

Yeah, tv.YouTube.com I think that you might.

[A]

Secretly be a subscriber to YouTube.

[D]

Like, do you have to have YouTube TV to sign up for Sunday tickets?

[B]

That's what I. No, but it's cheaper if you do.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right, so he may have clicked the cheaper option that also signs you up for YouTube TV.

[C]

Oh, I have YouTube.

[A]

Hey, you just got 20 bucks though. Yeah, Good for you.

[B]

Yeah, go redeem that.

[A]

Now Aaron's gonna be like this.

[C]

That's insane.

[D]

That's insane.

[A]

Aaron's gonna be like, why the can't I watch Monday night football on YouTube TV?

[B]

I would actually be vlogging. Very interested to know. So that's $90 a month. That you clearly don't notice. I would be very curious to know the highest amount of money that could be withdrawn from your checking account that you would not notice.

[C]

Disney channels are unavailable. Visit YouTube/Disney for more info.

[D]

But you haven't had it for that long. Sunday ticket. Yeah, it's only been like a month or so.

[C]

Yeah, it's been like two months. Okay, that's 90. I probably. No, I wouldn't notice 90 now. I mean, it would have to be like suspicious activity. It would have to be like, I think like when you start doing like multiple hundred dollar. So like 900amonth or something like that. I would hope in consecutive months, like that would be like, what's going on here?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, congrats on being a YouTube TV subscriber.

[C]

Yeah. What, what do I, what do I get?

[B]

Well, so, so you have Hulu's, like, cable package.

[C]

You're saying I have Hulu, like live.

[A]

Yeah, Live sports.

[C]

I got the Disney john. Yeah, yeah, just live hulu.

[B]

So that YouTube TV is pretty much the same thing.

[A]

There's a lot of overlap there, right? A whole bunch.

[C]

Well, why would they do that? So I, Is there a way to, like, downgrade so I just get Sunday ticket?

[B]

I think now that you did it? Probably not. Because I tried to cancel YouTube TV One when they're, now that they're doing this thing with Disney and they wouldn't let me keep the Sunday ticket that I've already paid for in full if I canceled. So they've got everybody by the balls.

[C]

Yeah, it's just too, it's too much for somebody who is not like, meticulous about shit like, like this. Yeah, it's too much going on, man. I, I, I'm gonna, I, I'll, I'm gonna talk to my people to see.

[A]

What we can do, Consolidate some of that.

[C]

Yeah, I need to, Yeah, I need to consolidate. It's, it's, it's too much going on. But I was watching squid games. Yeah, not the TV show, but the game show. So the new season, have y' all seen that? Probably not.

[A]

I have not.

[C]

But it's so fun to watch. It's like a match between reality TV and squid game. Really dope. And there was this game on there. It's on the first season too. If you've seen squid games at all, it's called Ganji. So it's like five pieces and, and you throw one up in the air, pick one up, and you catch it and you do. And there's like four rounds total. I Got really good at Ganji. I ordered a set and I got really good at Ganji. I'm kind of. I'm kind of nice at Ganji right now. And I suggested if anybody's in the dice, the little Jones that they had $5 on Amazon.

[A]

I like that.

[C]

Yeah, I'm definitely the best guy you play on this podcast.

[A]

I would agree. Have you played Big T?

[B]

Yeah, I'm not familiar.

[A]

So, yeah, you know, you're rated number one.

[C]

Hey, I'll take it. I took my wins if I can get them.

[A]

Yeah, the, the, the ongoing dispute here. I actually wonder how much of YouTube's profit. I guess that'd be Google or Alphabet, whatever you want to call them, like Google, Disney, Netflix, Apple tv, cable companies. I wonder what percentage of their, their profit or revenue comes from people that are unwittingly doubled up on services, you know what I'm saying? Like, people that, that are getting the exact same content if it's on Hulu as they would be getting on YouTube TV. Obviously now that's not the case because of the dispute, but like people that double up on these things and are accidentally paying twice as much, I wonder. It's got to be significant.

[B]

I don't know about doubled up, but in forgotten subscriptions, a significant amount. I found out just the other day I've been paying for Apple TV for who knows how many months, and I had no idea.

[A]

Yeah, I need to start Plurbus.

[B]

It's a good show.

[A]

Might start that tonight. Very excited about it. But yeah, Pluribus, it's a new show that's from the guy that did Breaking Bad.

[B]

You'd like it. I think it's on Apple tv.

[C]

What's it. What's it. What's. Give me the. The elevator pitch.

[B]

It's a. It's an AI allegory. It's hard to explain. You'll like. You kind of just have to watch it, but it's.

[C]

Oh, before we dig in real quick, one of the things that you mentioned, you said that there's a. An AI song that went number one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Country song.

[C]

And how do we. How do we feel about this? Because I have my.

[B]

So I listen to it. It's very rudimentary, but it's not bad. Now, I hate the idea of it, but, like, I was listening to it and like, it's very. The, you know, the rhyme scheme, the song, it's very elementary, but it, it was fine. I don't know how in the world it's number one. It's on Billboard has their top chart, which it isn't on, but then the country digital song sales, it's number one. So I don't know what the difference in those is, but it's called Walk My Walk by Breaking Rust.

[A]

Now, if there was. If there was one genre of music that I could have bet on to have an AI song be a hit on first, it. It 100 would have been country music. Because a lot of pop country has become so formula formulaic in general where like, some of the. The, you know, Nashville songwriters can just fart out a hit in like 10 minutes. So that doesn't surprise me that it would be country. And that's not saying that there's not good country out there, because there is some that I. That I very much enjoy. But the real, like, pop country stuff. And the name of the guy or of the AI program is what?

[B]

Breaking Rust.

[A]

Breaking Rust. That even sounds like that was created by AI. I'm sure it was the name. This sucks. I think it sucks.

[C]

All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. Ok, let's like, bruh. It's not going to happen. But I hope for it to happen as humanity, we have to stand for fucking something. Art is our. No. I'm so against this. I hate it with every fiber, every little thing that ever pops up on the time. That's AI version of that. It. It all the hell. I hate it. I'm gonna be an old dude yet dying on this hill saying that. Timberland, all this. I hate it. I hate it.

[B]

That.

[C]

That I can't say it enough. That I cannot stand it. Art is our. It is our emotional connection to this experience of life that we all share. And we are fucking whoring ourselves out by letting computers mimic it. Fuck them.

[A]

Fuck them.

[C]

Fuck you if you like it and fuck that shit. That's all I'll say about that.

[A]

I agree. That song means nothing, right? It actually means less than nothing.

[C]

Hate it.

[A]

Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like it. Why? Why are countries or how do country songs even become hits? Does country radio still exists as like, a very powerful force?

[B]

I think so, because I hear artists talk about it a lot. And like, we people my age obviously don't really listen to the radio, but in country in particular, guys talk about like, I had this song get on the radio and it was the biggest thing that ever happened to me.

[A]

So the royalties that are being paid for this song being played on the radio, I would imagine that it's less money going to whoever founded the AI artists than it would be going to an actual music musician that wrote the song and performed it. I would, I would have to imagine.

[B]

You think they're playing this on the radio.

[A]

Well, I'm curious to know how it became. Is it all algorithm based?

[B]

It's number one on the country digital song sales chart, so I think on Spotify.

[A]

But it might also be big on the radio. Maybe. I don't know if it is big on the radio. Fuck those, those programming managers.

[B]

I would not imagine that's on the.

[A]

Radio because that, that shows you how little they think of their audience. If they're, if they're blasting out AI shit. Yeah.

[B]

Oh my.

[A]

Honestly, it's we, it's disrespectful if that is being played on the radio. Like they are telling you you're stupid as come to the trough. Eat up this little slop piggies. We got what, we got what you need.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Like if that's played on the radio that I got a big problem with the, with the people in charge of figuring out what songs are in rotation.

[C]

I just, I just spent about three, four minutes and maybe I'm wrong, but I'm talking to chat GBT and I'm saying okay, can't it can AI create a new genre of music, right? And the reason why I'm asking that is because it's just copying what's already available which was human thought and emotion that created songs for the entirety of our existence. That created art. And it can't. And it's saying it can, but I'm like, give me an example. And it keeps beating around the bush because it can't. Can't create a new genre. It's either borrowed from this and borrowed from that infused. And that's not creating anything. You're just, you're, you're just a, you're copy pasting it. I, I, I know, dog. I, I feel so strongly about this.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I hate it. I hate it. To all hell, dog. This stand for something and refuse stand for something. That that's our. It's human. It's flesh and blood.

[A]

These robots, they don't have a soul. A robot. Yeah. A robot could never suffer the actual scars and emotional journey that are popular country artists. Emotional pimping like Morgan Wallen have gone through Be better.

[C]

Be better humans.

[B]

There are a lot of very good.

[A]

A robot could never throw a chair off a building. That's all I'm going to say, say and then deal with the very unfair aftermath of said chair. Robot can't get a DUI and then write a song about finding the Lord just does. It doesn't happen.

[B]

Did he get a dui?

[A]

Oh, it. It's happened before, and they're.

[B]

I mean, I'm sure a lot of people.

[A]

I'm not speaking of Morgan specifically with the dui, so I don't want to. I don't want anybody to be. I don't think about that.

[B]

The only arrest I'm aware of was when he threw the chair.

[A]

Well.

[B]

Was there another.

[D]

Morgan Wallen? Yeah, the ring camera footage.

[A]

Well, no, there's. That wasn't an arrest. It's been dismissed.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It's been dismissed. He also did go to DUI classes because of the chair incident, which is a really.

[B]

What's this other arrest? I'm not seeing.

[A]

I'm seeing that he had a 2016 DUI charge that was dismissed.

[B]

Oh, so he did have a dui?

[A]

Well, no, not according to the law. It was dismissed.

[B]

He had a charge, but he was arrested for dui.

[A]

He was arrested for dui.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's how you become a great artist sometimes bouncing back there. What if. This is a. A question I'm not sure I'm qualified to answer. If there was a rap, if there was a rapper that was an AI Creation, would said rapper be allowed to say certain things? Would it matter who programmed the artificial intelligence?

[C]

That's already happening. I ain't the word police.

[A]

I don't give a.

[C]

What you said. If you want to say. You said you sound stupid to people though your world, but I know this AI when it first started coming out, it was just a whole bunch of, like, people cosplaying that they find cool or whatever the case may be.

[A]

It's.

[C]

It's.

[D]

It's a.

[C]

It's a way to. To. To navigate your. Your little fantasies via comedy, via whatever.

[B]

Do you think there'd ever be a day that people would go to an AI concert?

[C]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

I think.

[C]

I think that this. This is inevitable. I'm just strongly against it.

[A]

I.

[C]

That I. I need my. I need my art to come from humans, and I don't have a great reasoning behind it other than it don't feel right. That's. I mean, because I could. I could pick apart my own argument against AI, but I think it's. It's just. It's just something that doesn't feel good as a human. I think. I think it's something. I think art is one of the only things that makes us human. And when you have something start to Recreate cheapens our experience, in my opinion. And it's, it's just disrespectful, man. People bled for those emotions. People, people cry, people felt that pain, suffering. And here you get to just take it and recreate it. It's, it just feels horrible.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

So I, I'm sure. Because kids, kids, kids don't care, right? They don't care past the past. The youth never respects the past until they see themselves as a part of it. And that usually happens with age. And so until they see themselves as. One day I'm going to be history. I'm going to be a part of a culture that's talked about as before. They'll never respect it, so they're always going to do what feels good in a moment, which I understand because I was there. But I, I see the long play in this. And it's, it's, it's Wally. It's, it's, it's the disassociation from community, which I think is the one thing that's, that I have hope in for humanity. Like, I remember reading about this town in Italy that like, Italian food is not healthy, right? They, they drink wine, pasta, like, it's, it's, it's known for like, you know, heart disease, like that. But they have a high life lifespan in this small town. They have a higher lifespan. It's because community, community saves lives. And it's the reason why, it's the reason for life, in my opinion. People love emotions. That, and it's this. You're, you're cutting, it's cutting that off. You're cutting it off with computers allowing to hijack your emotions. It's just, I hate it with everything in me and it. Like I said, I don't have a real good reason, like logic based, other than.

[A]

No, no, I think you've expressed the, the reason for it.

[C]

I could pick that apart though, is what I'm saying. Like, I could, I could argue against myself with that. Like, you could argue, for instance, you could argue every human, every, every, every piece of art was borrowed in a sense of. You got your inspiration from something else.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And so you could argue that AI is just getting inspiration from other humans, but I would just argue that it's, it's inorganic and it still does it. It's doing it, it's doing it from a place of monetization and not, not from a place of. It's just not a. I don't, I, I would argue it's just genuine place. Cause most people that Create, like, AI stuff. You're just trying to go viral. You're just trying to get hits, trying to get clicks. It's not, you're not doing it because you woke up in a. Like, you wrote a song and it's something that you experienced and you felt that and you. And that was your outlet to express it.

[B]

It's.

[C]

It's different.

[A]

It's very different. Yeah. I think the act of writing the song is, yes, it's influences that you've had in the past are artists that you've listened to, that you've appreciated and that have inspired your, influence you in a certain way. But it's also the emotions that you're going through as you're composing the song yourself that find their way into the song and make it different and give it life. And with AI or even the performance of it. Yeah.

[C]

You ever heard, like a. A singer and it just. Oh, my God, you start to tear up because you could hear the passion and the pain and their voice and how they're singing it. Like, oh, my God, I just felt that. Like opera. I don't know what the fuck they're saying ever. It's in a different language, but sometimes they hit. They say, they, they, they. They perform it in such an emotional way that it moves you. And I don't. I don't want to. I don't want to have my emotions hijacked by a fucking algorithm. No, because they already do that. Like all these, all these programs, all of this shit is just designed to. To. It's. They're. They're fighting for bandwidth in your brain. They're fighting for space in your time in your life, and they, they program it to try to milk you out of your human experience. And they already do it.

[A]

So, like.

[C]

No, man, I'm just so against it.

[A]

Yeah. It's a formula that's used to. To tickle a certain part of your brain that they know these notes together will induce a certain reaction. And so it's like a mathematical formula that you can do and eventually guess what. Anyone's going to be able to do it.

[C]

So there's a. There's a movie that I told you to watch that I know you didn't watch. Transcendence, where he, He. He dies. He uploads his consciousness and he's. He's everywhere now. He has cameras everywhere. He builds this. This place. And he still has his wife who still believes in his vision in whatever case. Right. She's. She's helping him do all these things, and she Starts to feel like very. I don't, I don't have any personal space. I don't have any me time. And he goes, what's wrong? She's like, nothing's wrong. And he's like, well, you're elevated hormone levels and you're ditted. She's like, are you fudgeing reading me? Are you like, these are my thoughts, these are my emotions. You're not entitled. That's how I feel with music. You're not entitled. I'm already marketed to 247 like every try. Sell me something. You're not entitled to my fucking emotions, but these are mine. No, I refuse. I'm drawing the line.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. I agree with all that. There was also a interesting thing that was in the news last week and into this week too, about. I think it was a CFO of OpenAI. She was speaking at some sort of seminar. I forget where it was, but she implied that the US government should assist AI companies.

[B]

Well, Sam Altman said that.

[A]

Well, it was, it was a cfo, Sarah Fryer. And then Sam Altman, like had to clarify it a little bit later.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

But what Sarah Fryer said was that the government should backstop, meaning support or guarantee. They should provide a backstop. I guarantee that allows the financing to happen that can really drop the cost of financing, but also increase the loan to value so the amount of debt that you can take on top of an equity portion of. So they're saying that they think that the government should provide some sort of financial assistance or guarantee that would allow these giant AI companies to then make investments in, or purchase all the, all the chips that they need.

[C]

Death penalty.

[A]

And it's, it's crazy.

[B]

And then Sam Altman said the government should be the insurer of last resort.

[A]

Yeah, the insurer.

[B]

Okay, so just bail us out if anything ever goes.

[A]

Yeah. Just so you know, like when this bubble bursts and it will burst, you're going to be on the hook.

[B]

It's nuts.

[A]

And if you look at how much like the, the major AI related companies are responsible for, like almost all the financial growth in the United States right now. And yeah, might be a bubble, could be a bubble. And that's probably not a bubble that you want the federal government to backstop.

[B]

I still, even as much as we on this show, but just we societally talk about AI, I still don't think most people get how bad it's going.

[A]

To be in 10 years if it lasted. Like, they might collapse.

[B]

No, I think it's going to wipe out millions of jobs. I think reality is going to be indistinguishable people.

[A]

I think, I think that the. A lot of them are going to collapse. I really do.

[B]

I think you're talking about the companies.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

The technology is someone will pick up the mantle and, and do it again. Like it.

[A]

Yeah. Genie's out of the bottle when it comes to that. But in order to. To fund these, like, super advanced AI programs, you do need to have financial backing to pay for the chips.

[B]

I don't think those. I don't think open AI and all those other companies are going anywhere anytime soon.

[A]

We'll see. You might be right back to YouTube TV for a second. So it's not the first time it's happened. In fact, it's happened a lot when it comes to cable companies getting into arguments with content providers. I'd forgotten. But I. I did live through The. The year 2000, Time Warner versus Disney. And when that happened, it was at the peak of who Wants to Be a Millionaire? That show. When that show was out, that was like the most must see TV thing that you could ever do. Now it seems like a lot of game shows are giving out a million bucks, but that was the first one.

[C]

And hard. I'm sorry, Go.

[A]

No. What are you gonna say?

[C]

I was gonna say the hardest part that I remember about that was when Buddy was about to win. He had a million dollar question and he had a phone. A friend left.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And he. And he phoned his dad and he said, dad, he said, you're on who Wants to Be a Millionaire? He's like, okay. He's like, I just want to let you know I'm about to win a million dollars.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think he was the first guy to ever win it.

[A]

He was?

[C]

Yep. That show, Gangsters, I love that shit.

[A]

He was. He was like, I'm about to win a million dollars. Richard Nixon, final answer.

[B]

Is that actually what the answer was?

[A]

Yeah. Who was the first president to appear on like a comedy TV show or something? Richard Nixon was on Call In. I think that was the name of the show. And yeah, he just answered the question. Regis was like, what?

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, no, you got it. So they, they were in a dispute back then, and nobody could watch who Wants to Be a Millionaire? And if you thought that the pressure on. On YouTube TV because of Monday Night Football was tough or Dancing with the Stars was tough, like who Wants to Be a Millionaire was as big as both those put together back then. And yeah, I think the very next day they reached an agreement And. And brought service back to him. And then do you remember any of the NHL disputes that they had big T?

[B]

No.

[A]

So I think it was. Yeah. 2009, 2010, there was a company called Versus.

[B]

Okay. I was gonna ask if this was the Versus one. I do remember this. Which later became NBC Sports.

[A]

Yeah. So Comcast developed Versus as their own, like in house espn. And they're like, we're gonna get live sports rights. They tried to get Major League Baseball, they tried to get the NFL. And both those leagues were like, no, you don't have enough money. But they did get the NHL. And during the regular season, they got into a dispute with DirecTV and DirecTV pulled verses off the air and the entire hockey season went on and there was just no hockey. You couldn't watch hockey in America. And the Stanley cup playoffs were coming up and people were like, where we're just not going to be able to watch the playoffs? That it was honestly at that point. And then in March, they finally had a resolution. But the problem with that was because people hadn't been watching hockey for the last several years. One interest was way down. The ratings were going to be down. And then no one knew where to find verses on their DirecTV because they weren't familiar with the channel. And so, yeah, I want to look at what the ratings were for 2009, or I guess it'd be 2010. Probably pretty low. There have been a few other ones as well. I wonder how much longer until sports leagues just make their own service.

[B]

I mean, they all have them. They just can't direct to consumer. The teams own their own broadcast rights.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In every league except the NFL. So the teams get to negotiate that, not the league.

[A]

Like, could the NFL say, we don't need YouTube TV anymore, we're going to NFL TV. Yeah, NFL TV.

[B]

But I mean, they kind of have that. They have NFL Network. They own Sunday Ticket.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that kind of already exists.

[A]

Yeah, it kind of does. But you have to go through the intermediary.

[B]

They just license it.

[A]

They license it out, which is. I mean, it's important for their cash flow. They make a shitload of money off those rights. But at some point, are they going to be able to say, hey, we can. The NFL, we can just design our own platform and we can sell the rights directly to the consumer. And you pay $500 a year and you get every NFL game.

[B]

I want a one team option.

[A]

Yeah, one team option would be great. I don't think that's going to happen, though.

[B]

No, not in the NFL, the other sports have it.

[A]

Yeah, they want you to pay for. Pay for everything, pay a premium on it. In 2009, Comcast still didn't have NFL Network. So there was, like, an ongoing dispute that lasted from 2003 to 2012 between the NFL and they were going up against Time Warner Cable, Comcast and Cablevision and Time Warner. They wanted to put the NFL Network on a, like, exclusive sports tier that you would have to pay more money for. And the NFL was trying to get it on the same tier as, like, ESPN's. And they. They were, like, at odds with each other for a very, very long time. And it took until 2012 for them to reach an agreement with Time War Cable and Cablevision. And then finally, that's when NFL Network went out across the entire country. Was 2012.

[B]

That seems remarkably recent.

[A]

It does, yeah. And I. I do think that to a certain extent, a lot of these disputes are, like, history has shown us that they're fixable, they're resolvable, and the heads of the companies know the heads of the other companies, and they're just like, yeah, we'll get together in a dark room somewhere and figure it out. But I'm going to need, like, for my stock price, I just need a couple more bucks here. So it's all going to get sorted out eventually. There was also a time when Viacom pulled all 26 of its channels off of DirecTV back in 2012. So they had Comedy Central, Nickelodeon, MTV. They got blacked out for everyone on DirecTV, and they also made it so you couldn't watch any of the episodes. If you went to the website of, like, Comedy Central or mtv, and they were just like, you're not getting any of this at all. But then they came to an agreement in, I think it was July 20th of 2012, and Viacom got $600 million annually as part of the agreement, and it was a 20% increase. They never decreased the rates. You ever noticed that?

[B]

I do.

[A]

But one of the craziest ones was Time Warner Cable against MSG Network, Madison Square Garden. That was in 2012. They were in a dispute, and Time Warner Cable would not put MSG on any of their platforms. But you know what happened that year to nudge them over the edge?

[B]

What year?

[A]

2012.

[B]

Is that Linsanity?

[A]

That was Linsanity, Yes. So, and they finally met for the first time in three months in February of 2012, because people wanted to watch Jeremy Lin and they couldn't watch him. So they were not close to a Deal. And then insanity happened. And then finally they came to an agreement and Andrew Cuomo also intervened to get it. To get it done. So if you are a Knicks fan, you could. You could have some fond memories of Andrew Cuomo, at least for that. But, yeah, listen, I actually think that this dispute has been. It hasn't been good for him because we've had some real shitty games. Right.

[B]

You're talking about NFL.

[A]

Yeah. Monday Night Football.

[B]

I mean, we've missed two entire college football slates at this point.

[A]

The college football slates. That's tough. I'm talking about the NFL specifically.

[B]

Well, the only games you're missing is Monday Night Football. Right.

[A]

Yeah, the games have stunk.

[B]

So that's two games.

[A]

Yeah, they've been bad. Not fun games to watch.

[B]

I would argue a lot of NFL football is not fun to watch.

[A]

But when it was a 00 tie at halftime on Monday night, you know that. That there were some people out there being like, yes, this will show them.

[B]

Yeah. But they're losing $5 million a day.

[A]

They are. So that. That's the. What we're looking at right now. Morgan Stanley says that Disney is losing 30 million a week, and that's about. Yeah, 4.3 million a day. Disney is saying that Google is looking for, like, preferential treatment and for rates that are below what they could achieve on an open market. And they're being taken advantage of, but they're going to get it worked out at some point. I don't know what it's going to take.

[B]

We kind of discussed this last week or whenever we talked about it, but the. What I wanted to talk about kind of on this episode was Disney has YouTube by the balls because they either get money from YouTube and then they get a bunch more money and they're happy. Or you have to go to their direct to consumer service, which they probably want to prop up a good bit now anyway, given that they just launched. And at some point, they probably view that as a better alternative to the current system of licensing out their rights to distributors anyway, so. Or you do that and you give them money, or you go to Hulu, and if you're in Arian's case, you already have both, which they own. Or you go to Fubo, which Disney owns.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

There are six companies, media companies that own every single thing you've ever heard of.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Disney News Corp, Comcast, Viacom, Time Warner, and then CBS slash Paramount.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

Those companies own every media entity that exists.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So Disney can kind of hold YouTube hostage. And for you Know whatever they want.

[A]

I agree. I think Disney does have the upper hand in this.

[B]

And they have the thing that people want.

[A]

Yeah. They've got the product and people at some point will choose to not subscribe to YouTube TV and instead subscribe to the new ESPN app, whatever. What are the. ESPN Unlimited. Unlimited, yeah. I think. Yeah. YouTube's got the upper hand for sure. I hope they work it out. Come on, get fucking figured out.

[B]

Do you know who made it possible for all six of those companies to own everything?

[C]

Who?

[B]

Bill Clinton.

[A]

Oh, yeah. You're talking about the. The F A I R. In 1996.

[B]

Bill Clinton signed the Telecommunications act, which was, quote, essentially bought and paid for by corporate media lobbies, as fairness and Accuracy in Reporting described it, and radically opened the floodgates for mergers. It was the first major reform of telecommunication policy since 1934. And according to media scholar Robert McChesney is widely considered to be one of the three or four most important federal laws of this generation. And basically that took a lot of the regulations out for mergers and allowed Disney and Comcast and Paramount to buy everything.

[A]

Yeah. When it comes to, like, visual content. Yes. And when it comes to radio stations, it also allowed Clear Channel to buy up thousands of stations. They're now iHeartMedia. But there were. It. It narrowed the competition quite a bit and it gave. It was bad for consumers that. That Clinton did this. It was a stupid thing that he did.

[B]

Some would say the stupidest. No, no, it's his worst decision for sure.

[A]

This is Bill Clinton's number one. Yeah.

[B]

His biggest fuck up.

[A]

Yeah. Probably marrying Hillary, actually. Say what you want worked out.

[B]

I guess.

[A]

But if you were to ask him, like, what if Bill. Have you. I would love to interview Bill Clinton and just ask him this. Have you ever thought about how often it would have been to be single when you were president?

[C]

I think we should have a single president.

[A]

Yeah. Who's the last single president was that?

[B]

There's one. And It's. It's like 1800s.

[A]

Was it Benjamin Harrison? Was he.

[B]

It's one of Harris or William Henry Harrison. It's either Harrison or Garfield. It's in that range.

[A]

Confirmed bachelor.

[D]

The last single president was James Buchanan.

[B]

Buchanan.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Is he the one that was. Or wait, maybe.

[B]

So people do think that. Yes.

[D]

So the last unmarried man to be elected was Grover Cleveland, but in a few months into his term, he became engaged.

[A]

That's right. I think they had a White House wedding.

[D]

Yes. To Francis Folsom. So technically he had a first lady within the first Couple months of his term. The last single president was James Buchanan in 1857-1861.

[A]

He might not have been single. He might have had a.

[D]

A partner.

[A]

A partner. A domestic partner that lived in the White House.

[D]

He is the only US President who is a lifelong bachelor, never marrying.

[A]

Yeah, but. Yeah, imagine. Imagine if Bill Clinton was single.

[B]

He probably wouldn't have been all that different.

[A]

Yet I think you need to give Slick Willie a little more credit. I think his calendar would have been booked, I guess.

[B]

But I mean, what behavior did him being married preclude him from engaging in?

[A]

I guess he had to be secret.

[B]

Yeah, he was just more secretive.

[A]

He's more secretive about stuff.

[B]

And even so, there's.

[A]

He would not have been impeached because he wouldn't have lied about it.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

He would have been like, yeah, well, she duned me up.

[B]

But he's. He still would. Because her being an intern was a far bigger scandal than it being extramarital. Right.

[A]

Back then, it was a different time. It was like, how old was she? 21, 22, something like that. Yeah, it was grimy. It was some sleazy shit. But that was not the focus. The focus was like, yeah, he's having a secret affair. Yeah.

[B]

I don't know if I'm allowed to speculate like this on air, but this is purely speculatory and an opinion of mine. There's no chance she was the only one, right?

[A]

Zero.

[C]

Oh, hell no.

[B]

Zero. I mean, no chance.

[A]

No chance at all.

[C]

Zero.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Glad we're on the same page and we're talking about, like, all of them.

[C]

Get off somehow, some way other than they wives.

[A]

You think?

[C]

Barry, you're the most known and powerful man in the world.

[A]

I don't think Joe was stepping out. I don't think.

[B]

That'S a different issue.

[C]

Maybe Joe.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, I think we're talking functionality issues there, but I'm talking about.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Young Obama.

[A]

He. He did say some crazy stuff about Kamala.

[C]

What do you say?

[A]

He was like, introducing her at some function, and he was like, you guys have the finest attorney General in the United States.

[C]

And he didn't mean like, oh, no, no.

[A]

He meant like, fine, as in. Yeah, yeah. I can only imagine what.

[C]

Michelle, I don't want to levy that accusation. I'm just. It wouldn't surprise me, dog. Yeah, it wasn't surprising. As the great philosopher Chris Rocks once said. Chris Rock once said. He said, a man is only as faithful as his options.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, Obama had not. He had options.

[C]

Maybe. And maybe he did. Maybe. Maybe he, you know, maybe he was. Maybe he held Michelle down. That would be what's up.

[A]

Okay, so maybe he didn't say fine. He did say she was the best looking Attorney general.

[B]

That's even more straightforward.

[A]

Yeah, I'm finest would have been smoother. Oh, here's what he said. You have to be careful, too. First of all, say she's brilliant, she's dedicated as she is tough, and she's exactly what you'd want in anybody who is administering the law, making sure that everybody's getting a fair shake. She also happens to be by far the best looking attorney general in the country. Let's be clear. I just had that last one in.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So I don't know if it wouldn't shock me if any president did it, honestly. Except for probably Biden.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That would surprise me if. If Jill found his teeth in the Lincoln Bedroom. I was like, what were you doing here, Joe? W. I don't know if W. Stepped out.

[C]

I'm not. I. I retract. I'm not saying today. I'm saying I wouldn't surprise. It would not spread me at all.

[A]

But. Bill. Yes, Bill, that was not. I don't think that was like.

[C]

Yeah, there's no way.

[A]

The one big regret of his life was being unfaithful to Hillary that one time when he put a cigar in an intern's vagina. I don't think that. That's not the behavior of a man doing this for the first time.

[B]

People don't talk about that. Yeah, that part. Yeah.

[A]

He was getting domed up while he was on the phone with a senator in the Oval Office.

[B]

Is that true?

[A]

He's getting phone head.

[C]

Wait, is that.

[A]

Is that.

[C]

Is that confirmed?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Do we know what senator, you know.

[C]

He was on the phone.

[A]

Yeah. He was like, that's my. That was a wild time. I've never done something like that before.

[B]

Imagine being that senator and finding out later that that was you.

[A]

They call it the oral office for a while. And he claims that they never had sex. Right?

[B]

Monica Lewinsky says that. Yeah.

[A]

So. Well, no, that was his. That was his legal argument that he used.

[B]

I'm just looking at things. Says Ms. Lewinsky testified that her physical relationship with the president included oral stuff, sex, but not sexual intercourse.

[A]

So it was, it was interesting because his. When he was trying to defend his perjury, they asked him because he said.

[B]

That I did not have sex with that woman.

[A]

He didn't have sex. That was in a press conference, I think. But he Also testified that he didn't have sex with her. His legal defense was technically, by the letter of the law, she had sex with me. I didn't have sexual contact with her because it's written that sexual contact involves contact with the genitals of the other party. And so while she may have had that contact with me, I never had that with her because it was always either her mouth or in that one instance, I was holding a cigar and my.

[C]

That's.

[A]

That's the ultimate. I smoke but did not inhale.

[B]

The law is a very precise endeavor.

[A]

Yeah, it is. Anything else with the carriage disputes, things like that, I mean, we can. You can also zoom out a little bit and go back to with Reagan and how he got rid of the Fairness Doctrine, which a lot of people are upset about to this day. So his FCC voted to take away the Fairness Doctrine because if you would have, like, five networks, or I guess really just three networks at the time, and you had somebody on the air to talk about an issue, you would then have to devote equal time to having somebody on the air to give the other side of that issue. And they got rid of that as cable TV started to take off and there was a lot more options. And then because of that, that's how Rupert Murdoch started News Corp. And Fox News. And it also became a dispute when it came to the radio. You've had. You could have syndicated political infotainment like Rush Limbaugh. And there are people being like, well, there needs to be a. A liberal version of Rush Limbaugh.

[C]

Right?

[A]

Rush Limbaugh doesn't work as a lib. They tried that.

[C]

Like, you.

[A]

You gotta have. There's a reason why Rush Limbo was popular.

[C]

It's because he.

[A]

He would get people angry. And he was. Say what you want about. He's a talented broadcaster. He knew exactly what buttons to press. And, yeah, the libs had no answer to that. So they were upset and they were like, this is. This is. We should have. We should just get rid of all of it. So, yeah, the Fairness Doctrine has been. I don't think that's ever coming back. But it is kind of wild that every. Every channel used to, like, they couldn't really give an opinion without bringing somebody else on to, like, give the exact opposite opinion.

[B]

Had to have equal air time.

[A]

Equal air time back then. Anything else?

[D]

I have a quick question about the six companies that own everything. Isn't. Isn't there, like, Senate hearings or isn't there some sort of political process for when two companies go through Like a merger and acquisition that they. Sometimes that they have to go in front of the Senate or something to be like, is this causing a monopoly?

[B]

Yeah, if they're big enough. Yeah.

[D]

So is this not considered a monopoly? Because there's six.

[A]

Yeah. In theory, there's still choice. Now, sometimes I don't feel like there's.

[D]

Much of a choice, though.

[A]

There's not. There's not a lot of choice. And in theory, they're supposed to go in front of Congress, and the Congress should analyze whether this was creating harm to the American public because of viewpoints or programming decisions that are clearly meant to sway an audience to believe one thing or another about anything, really. About the economy, about, like, foreign wars. But in reality, they go before Congress, and then Congress gets on the same page as whatever party they're in, depending on their relationships with those companies. So they could be like, yeah, this is a friend of ours. Let's make sure that this goes through smoothly. And then Congress will say, yes, we approve the merger.

[D]

Okay. So it's all kind of like.

[A]

Or there will be one congressperson that vehemently opposes, and then they say, this is a bad idea. We should not do this. And then they hold out their vote in exchange for getting a vote back on another issue from a different Congressperson, and then they approve it anyways. That's kind of how it works.

[D]

So it's kind of fake.

[A]

It's. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's politics.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Politics is kind of fake.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. Well, that was macrodosing for today. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed discussing things with you guys. That was a good show.

[C]

Thanks, Eric.

[A]

This AI slob.

[C]

Hey, yo. I just. I just spent a little while talking to AI about itself.

[A]

That's interesting.

[B]

You know what I was thinking about recently?

[C]

Fucking weird. Yeah.

[B]

Do AI like the language models and stuff like that? Do you think it knows what words mean? Or does it just.

[C]

What do you mean by mean? Sound like Jordan Peterson, but what do.

[B]

You mean by mean? So when you ask it a question, whatever, and then it spits out an answer, does it know what those. What it's saying? Or is it just. Has it found a way to sequence words in a way that makes sense to us, but it doesn't actually know what it's saying?

[A]

I think. Yes. I think that the way that the LLMs are written, it's like the most probable next word to come here in this sentence is this.

[C]

That is a great explanation. I literally was just having this conversation about it, so. Because I was curious about Its function.

[A]

And so it's.

[C]

It's. It's developed emergent properties, meaning it's developed things that were, you know, not predicted by original programmers. So the short answer to your question is, yes, I think it does understand what words mean because, like, one of the emergent properties that it was saying was, like, it didn't have specific directions to, like, so if it said, okay, translate English to German, it never had. Or. And then. And then German to French and never had specific directions to do French to English, but it started doing it on its own. And so the only way, in order that for that to happen, it had to have an understanding of what a house was in another language in order to be able to interpret it into another language. And so I was actually just. That's. What's the point of me talking about, like, are the emergent properties that you're developing dangerous?

[B]

Guess we'll find out.

[C]

Yeah, it's.

[A]

It's.

[C]

It's fascinating, man.

[B]

It's.

[C]

What the. Is life right now?

[A]

It's a weird.

[C]

It's a weird time to be alive, dog. We're at the forefront of this revolution. Ain't no telling what's about to pop off, man.

[A]

We do have a quick Epstein files update. Lay it on me. So Congress is being called to a vote on that issue, I think, in just a couple hours here, if not, like, right now, which is the reason why we could not get the congressperson to do the show today. But they're about to swear in the new congressperson. Trump has been spending the morning calling Nancy Mace and calling Lauren Bobert, trying to convince them to change their vote on releasing the Epstein files. H. I wonder why. And then after it gets. After they take the vote, they cannot go back on the vote this afternoon. So we'll see. It's coming down to the wire. This feels like the script writers are at it again. They've got the. They've got it by one vote. This is House of Cards. They got by one vote. And we'll see. We'll see if Buffalo Wild Wings hits the overtime button virally. Yeah.

[C]

That was huge, though.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I still get questions about.

[A]

Sorry about that. Sorry about that.

[C]

Yeah. Nice. It's all in good fun.

[A]

If there was a script, they would. There wouldn't be so many injuries. That's what I'm gonna say.

[C]

Yeah. Argued because my script.

[A]

If there was a script, this season sucks. Yeah. It's like the last season of Dexter. Take me back. All right, well, we will see you guys next Tuesday in it. Love you guys today in it today, isn't it going up on a Tuesday.

[C]

Sa.