PFT Petitions To Join ‘Top Gun 3’ With Help From Jerry O’Connell | April 21, 2026

Summary

Macrodosing Podcast Summary

Episode: PFT Petitions To Join ‘Top Gun 3’ With Help From Jerry O’Connell

Date: April 21, 2026
Hosts/Guests: PFT Commenter, Big T, Jerry O’Connell (call-in), Liam Blutman

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Episode Overview

This episode of Macrodosing (“Nano Dosing” edition) is a freewheeling, comedic romp through sports talk, pop culture, bizarre news, and an epic campaign by PFT Commenter to get cast (even as an extra) in the upcoming "Top Gun 3." The episode features call-ins and commentary from actor Jerry O’Connell and writer Liam Blutman, and is filled with the show's signature blend of sports banter, absurd hypotheticals, and confessional moments. The tone is irreverent and self-aware, with a running thread about how ideas actually get into Hollywood movies, and a satirical but passionate plea to break into the Top Gun cinematic universe.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Baseball Banter & Analytics (03:00–07:50)

• Nationals & Braves Rebuild:

  • PFT Commenter and Big T discuss early season MLB standings, focusing on surprising offensive performances from the Nationals despite lackluster pitching.
  • “I’m going to give the rebuild so far for the Nationals an A minus.” (PFT, 06:54)
  • Discussion of run differentials and the volatility of pitching prospects.

• Tiger vs. Hippo Debate & Animal Coolness Rankings (07:50–11:30)

  • Viral video prompts discussion of wild animal encounters; Big T’s longstanding claim that facing a tiger is less dangerous than a hippo is “vindicated.”
  • Extended, comedic debate over whether tigers, lions, or chameleons are the “coolest” animals.
  • “Tigers have great...they’ve got drip.” (PFT, 09:15)

2. Bizarre News & The RFK Jr. “Raccoon Penis” Story (13:36–17:16)

• Hosts dive into RFK Jr.’s grisly animal fascination as described in a recent biography and what it says about American politics.
• “I would like to know what you learned from the raccoon’s penis when you studied it later. Was it fuzzy? Was it—how many holes did it have?” (PFT, 15:35)
• Broader riffing on political media and the weirdness of TMZ’s Washington, D.C. bureau.

3. Political Scandals & Defamation Lawsuits (21:26–34:00)

• The group dives into the headline-making spat between FBI Director Cash Patel and The Atlantic over alleged drinking and absenteeism reports.
• Satirical speculation about the inner lives and ideal personality of a “no-nonsense” FBI director:
  • “I want the most no-nonsense person...goes home and eats the exact same dinner every night with his German shepherd.” (PFT, 33:39)
• Whimsical construction of the “ideal FBI director” archetype—crossword-puzzles-at-lunch, zero fun, strict diet, possibly with a small dog.

4. Top Gun 3 Campaign—Story Pitches, Hollywood Connections, & On-Air Schmoozing (40:00–61:30; 71:00–91:55)

The Pitch (42:49, 81:25)

• PFT lays out his “John Henry vs. Machine” storyline for Top Gun 3:
  • The military retires human pilots for AI drones.
  • Maverick (Tom Cruise) must prove human intuition and rule-breaking can still beat machines.
  • “The government shuts down all the manned pilot programs ... only going with the AI drones. And then Tom Cruise has to step in and prove humans can still beat the machine because there’s something the machine can’t do that only Maverick can.” (PFT, 42:49)
• “The most important part about being a Top Gun pilot is knowing when to break the rules.” (PFT, 43:11)

Making Hollywood Moves

• Reaches out to industry-adjacent friends, including Jerry O’Connell and Liam Blutman, to try and get the pitch in front of producer Jerry Bruckheimer (55:20–61:19, 79:22).
• Running joke about the futility of unsolicited pitches in the film industry; Jerry O’Connell confirms, “This town—no one’s gonna read your guys’s 400-page manifesto for Top Gun 3.” (Jerry O’Connell, 91:04)

Dreams of a Cameo

• PFT and Big T joke about what they’d pay to be an extra in Top Gun 3, settling on $50–100k as the “reasonable” amount.
  • “In that area, $100k—you’d think about it, right?” (Big T, 46:17)
• Discussions of what their “call signs” would be as pilots (45:05).

Memorable on-air Quotes from Jerry O’Connell

• “I typed into AI, show me a repo person who bought a tow truck—that’s kind of what your hair looks like.” (Jerry to PFT, 87:42)
• Jerry O’Connell’s impromptu impressions and improv, including taking on the character of a pregnant exotic dancer for comedy’s sake. (76:01)
• “You can’t program a machine to break its own rules. Can you just go with us, Jerry?” (PFT, 82:36)

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5. Sports News, NBA & Soccer (65:00–70:30)

• NBA Playoff chatter, court aesthetics, “jump castle” analogies, and the impact of Victor Wembanyama (“the NBA might just become the Wimby show for the next 10 years”—PFT, 66:11).
• “Big T looks at the NBA like most people look at the Senior Tour.” (PFT, 67:38)
• English Premier League “relegation race” drama featuring Tottenham and West Ham (69:03).

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6. Unfiltered Social Media Critiques

• Side-tangent into Michael Jordan’s NBA broadcasting contract and the economics of celebrity sports deals (101:44–104:57).

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7. Viral Wedding Video Critique (107:38–112:16)

• The hosts dissect Noah Lyles' awkward wedding "first look" video, with consensus that his realness is admirable, but his wedding day etiquette is questionable.
  • “Even if you hate the dress...it seems like such an easy [situation to] knock it out of the park.” (Big T, 110:16)
  • “You just want to see him excited, like, happy—God forbid.” (PFT / Liam, 111:24–111:28)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “I think tiger’s pound for pound the coolest and most terrifying animal in the world.” – PFT (09:04)
• “This looks terrifying...but the tiger runs away. He just hangs out. He doesn’t try to eat anybody.” – Big T (08:02)
• “I want the director of the FBI to be the toughest hang you could ever have.” – PFT (34:03)
• “The most important part about being a Top Gun pilot is knowing when to break the rules.” – PFT (43:11)
• “You look like someone who, online, jumps out of his truck with a bat and goes, ‘It’s not coming off. Get away from the car.’” – Jerry O’Connell to PFT (87:00)
• “You could just sue somebody...then it’s cheaper for them to just give you a million dollars.” – Big T (31:06)
• “Frank was right. Sometimes, the truth hurts.” – PFT & Big T on Frank the Tank's Mets predictions (101:18)
• “For all that people talk about Frank the Tank, he’s...usually right.” – Big T (96:55)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 03:00: MLB standings & Nationals/Braves breakdown
• 08:02: Tiger circus video & “tiger vs. hippo” vindication
• 13:36: RFK Jr. “raccoon penis” news cycle
• 21:26: Cash Patel/Atlantic lawsuit discussion
• 40:00: Top Gun 3 story pitch begins
• 55:15: Liam Blutman segment, attempts to network to Top Gun producers
• 71:00: Jerry O’Connell call-in; impressions and Hollywood insight
• 87:00: Jerry O’Connell roasts PFT’s “repo driver” look
• 101:11: Mets losing streak and Frank the Tank simulation
• 107:38: Noah Lyles wedding video critique

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Episode Highlights

• Unscripted Hollywood Auditions:

  • PFT’s obsessive and self-effacing campaign to get into “Top Gun 3” is part meta-comedy, part sincere. Real connections and hurdles in Hollywood are discussed, with Jerry O’Connell providing unfiltered industry insights.

• Animal Showdowns and Internet Bravery:

  • Recurring riffing on “animals you’d least like to fight,” with comedic back-and-forth over animal aesthetics and personalities.

• Daily Absurdity from the News:

  • The show excels at pulling obscure, weird headlines for deep-dive laughs—from RFK’s animal organ collecting to political gaffes and the economics of being an “NBA Contributor.”

• Shameless but Lovable Self-Promotion:

  • The hosts, especially PFT, maintain a tongue-in-cheek awareness of their parasocial reach, using connections and “macrodosing” influence to try to achieve utterly absurd goals (like scoring a movie cameo).

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Conclusion

This is classic Macrodosing: fast, funny, and never too precious to detour into total absurdity. The epic “Top Gun 3” campaign is the spine of the episode, but along the way listeners are treated to sports analytics, animal fights, political weirdness, showbiz shop talk, and unfiltered takes on viral moments and sports culture. Regulars and new listeners alike will leave entertained—and maybe, just maybe, rooting for PFT’s dream of sipping a beer in the background of Top Gun 3.

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Transcript

[PFT Commenter]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big T]

And the Nats this week, first in second place, right?

[PFT Commenter]

I believe so. I think the natural second. The Nats are tied for second in the division.

[Big T]

Yes, that is correct.

[PFT Commenter]

Five games back. But I was just saying before we started the tape that the Nats not. Not a bad squad. And then Big T was like, well, you're.

[Big T]

They're fine.

[PFT Commenter]

10 and 12. Big T, don't look at the stats. Okay, okay. Don't look. No, stop looking at the stats.

[Big T]

You're just gonna name some. Some players.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not naming any players.

[Big T]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

About the teams. Big picture. Big picture. Because so far, even though we are 10 and 12, I'd say this has got. We've gotten off to a much, much better start than I anticipated.

[Big T]

A strong 10 and 12.

[PFT Commenter]

A strong 10 and 12. There are three teams in Major League Baseball that have over 120 run scored.

[Big T]

Okay, I'm going to guess.

[PFT Commenter]

Who are they?

[Big T]

I'm going to guess it's the Dodgers, Braves and Nats.

[PFT Commenter]

There are four teams. Sorry, that.

[Big T]

Dodgers, Braves, Nats and Reds.

[PFT Commenter]

It would be the Dodgers. It would be the Washington Nationals. It would be the Houston Astros, surprisingly. Wait, it might just be the three teams. And the Atlanta Braves.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And the Atlanta Braves. The Atlanta Braves lead the league. They have 122 runs scored. The Astros, Nats and Dodgers all have 121 run scored.

[Big T]

How's weather down there?

[PFT Commenter]

So, well, I'm just saying our defense, our pitching stinks. Bad pitching. But the bats look a lot better than I thought they'd be. So I'm excited. So far, the rebuild looks promising. Now, if we scored 121 runs and we're below.500 and that makes you ask, just how bad is the pitching? We've given up 134 runs, which is second in baseball behind the Astros, that have actually given up 140 runs.

[Big T]

But the run differentials in the NLE the Braves are plus 57. That is number one in baseball. In second place are the Marlins at negative one. In third place are the Nats at negative 13. And then the Mets are negative 25. And the Philadelphia Phillies have allowed 38 more runs than they have scored.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Now you want to see a crazy division. Look at the NL Central, because the two teams at the top of the division, the Reds and the Cardinals, right now, they have run differentials of minus eight, both of them. And then every other team in the division has a positive run differential.

[Big T]

But every team's good.

[PFT Commenter]

Every team's good. Yeah, it's. I think every team is a game and a half apart.

[Big T]

The Cardinals will fall off, the Reds probably will. But a lot of good teams in that. A lot of good baseball.

[PFT Commenter]

A lot of. A lot of good baseball being played. I think if you're doing a rebuild, it's way more encouraging to see the bats looking really good. Right. And then the pitching just stinks.

[Big T]

Yeah. I mean, you would prefer to have both or, you know, either, but yeah, I think if there's a lot of. A lot of analytics, people will tell you there's no such thing as a pitching prospect. So I think they would probably agree with you that you would rather your bats. The thinking is you should. You should never be reliant on pitching.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, agreed.

[Big T]

Because it's very volatile, especially with injuries now.

[PFT Commenter]

Agreed. And you can. Yeah, you can. I don't know if it's easier to address. I think in my dumb brain, it's easier to get average at pitching. Right. You might not put together like a great pitching staff, but I feel like it's easier to become an average to slightly above average pitching team than it is to become an above average hitting team, probably. So I. As far as I'm going to give the Rebuild, what are we, 22 games into the 2026 season?

[Big T]

That's correct.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to give the rebuild so far for the Nationals an A minus.

[Big T]

Wow. You don't even need to see. 500 solid.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a complete rebuild and it's looking. We're. We're ahead of schedule right now.

[Big T]

All right. Yeah. But big series this week. 4 gamer.

[PFT Commenter]

Massive. We think 2. 2.

[Big T]

I would love to get 3. We're the only team in baseball that hasn't lost a series, so two would be sales pitching in this series. Like we. We should win three of these games,

[PFT Commenter]

I think probably so. We got a lot to talk about today, a lot to get into. How's your weekend

[Big T]

average?

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big T]

Yeah, it was fine.

[PFT Commenter]

It's pretty solid.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

On the sheet that you sent over this morning, there's just a link to a post from the New York Post and it just says, big T vindicated yes.

[Big T]

Go watch that.

[PFT Commenter]

I did. It's a video of a tiger leaping into the crowd after the circus barrier

[Big T]

collapses and what happens?

[PFT Commenter]

And so Big T, this looks terrifying

[Big T]

of course, but what does the tiger do?

[PFT Commenter]

The tiger runs away.

[Big T]

He just. He just hangs out. He just walks around.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Doesn't try to eat anybody. Nothing. As I said, you would much rather be face to face with a tiger than a hippo. Hippo, that happens. You're dead. Someone. Yeah, a lot of people would have gotten out but someone's dead now.

[PFT Commenter]

What the fuck is wrong with these people that aren't getting up and leaving?

[Big T]

I don't know. I think they were just in such shock. I wish Aryan was here.

[PFT Commenter]

I. Now this does vindicate me for saying that I'd rather get into the ring like a boxing ring with the tiger than Mike Tyson.

[Big T]

I think that's a little different.

[PFT Commenter]

The tiger might get distracted.

[Big T]

I guess it is kind of the same thinking.

[PFT Commenter]

So I also don't understand why you have a collapsible barrier.

[Big T]

Yeah, I mean this has to be in like China or somewhere, right?

[PFT Commenter]

You would think so the tiger's just like, peace, I'm out.

[Big T]

I'm looking up where it is.

[PFT Commenter]

I think tiger's pound for pound the coolest and also most terrifying animal in the world.

[Big T]

Coolest.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I think they're so cool, man. Tigers are. Tigers have great.

[Big T]

They're very majestic.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they've got drip.

[Big T]

Are they cool?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big T]

Are they the coolest?

[PFT Commenter]

Name a cooler animal.

[Big T]

Stingray.

[PFT Commenter]

Not cool. Stingray is cooler than a tiger.

[Big T]

I'm just, I'm thinking out loud. I've never given this much thought. Let me. Okay, let me think clearly. You haven't, you know what's cool and it's not, it's not going to, you know, it's not terrifying or anything. The chameleon is cool.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll give you that.

[Big T]

That's. That's sick. I don't, I don't understand how that works. I don't know if it almost 29 years old, I'm supposed to know how that works, but I don't. What other animals are cool? A lion is cooler than a tiger.

[PFT Commenter]

Disagree.

[Big T]

Explain.

[PFT Commenter]

Disagree.

[Big T]

So you're just, you're just. Your brain is getting striped mogged right now.

[PFT Commenter]

I am. I am.

[Big T]

You see the stripes and you're like stripes? Yeah, that's it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but the stripes are. There's a reason why the stripes exist. It's because they're fucking awesome. What am I supposed to ignore the stripes with the tiger.

[Big T]

No, you can take it into consideration. By the way, this was in Russia, which checks out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that does absolutely check out. Yeah. The stripes make a difference. 100. Does the Lion's mane make a difference? Yes, that is a factor.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you talking about a female line? Are you talking about a male line?

[Big T]

In my mind I was envisioning a male.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Male line. Somewhat cool. But they always got a lot of scars on their face. Have you ever seen like.

[Big T]

Right. Because they're out there, people up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, we're talking about two different things though.

[Big T]

You just named something that's super cool.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, no, no.

[Big T]

If, if there was a dude walking around and he was of the walk, just big time and he had scars all over him, you would say those are cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Not necessarily. I'd say that that person's scary. That individual is scary. I would say that the tiger is cooler. Like the sleek tiger, the, the, the stripes, how it walks, like in silence. The size of tiger.

[Big T]

Lions are roughly the same size.

[PFT Commenter]

I think tigers are bigger. Yeah. I think full grown. A grown ass Bengal tiger will fuck you up.

[Big T]

Well, no one's disputing that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm not.

[PFT Commenter]

Although I'm also not disputing your chameleon. The chameleon is a very cool. It's a very cool animal. Yeah. But if we're talking like, which amongst the jungle cats are the coolest? It is. It's tiger. And I personally don't think it's close.

[Big T]

So Bengal tigers are typically 4 to 550 pounds and 9 to 10ft long. Okay, definitely scary. Male lion size 330 to 550. And that gives me and about 10ft long. So pretty similar.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll take a tiger any day.

[Big T]

Is there a YouTube video of a tiger and lion fighting?

[PFT Commenter]

I've looked that up before. There's a lot of, A lot of, like, what if this happened?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Where people just kind of make up how the fight goes. Like I saw one fight, I think where the tiger was winning, but then it got like dust in its eye.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then the line jumped on top of it and killed it.

[Big T]

This looks real.

[PFT Commenter]

It's boxing just hitting each other with two pieces, three pieces.

[Big T]

Yeah. It's not that. It's. It's a lot of slap fighting.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They're not really trying to kill because

[Big T]

they, they respect each other.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they do. But yeah, I'm team, I'm team tiger and there's zero question about that. I won't apologize for it either.

[Big T]

Okay. Guys, it's grit week.

[PFT Commenter]

This is the part of the football

[Big T]

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[Jerry O'Connell]

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[Big T]

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[PFT Commenter]

We got some more stuff to talk about over the weekend. Can you enlighten me onto the RFK Jr. Raccoon penis story?

[Big T]

Yeah, I hate when stuff happens on a Thursday.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And like then, because now we've got five days till our next show comes out and it's like this is old news at this point, but we should talk about it. I mean, we. We don't have a choice. He cut the penis off a raccoon and journaled about it.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. What's.

[Big T]

That's. That's a story made for a Tuesday. Macrodosing.

[PFT Commenter]

It's in his book, RFK Jr. The Fall and Rise.

[Big T]

A book about him, Not. Not his.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, a book about him. He says, I was standing in front of my parked car on I684 cutting the penis out of a road killed raccoon thinking about how weird some of my family members have turned out to

[Big T]

be, which is such an incredible sentence.

[PFT Commenter]

That's an amazing, amazing piece. My kids waited patiently in the car. He said later telling People magazine he collected the raccoons genitals so he could study them later. What did he find out from studying them?

[Big T]

By the way, there's a. Something hidden in this story that could be its own headline. His daughter Kick Kennedy recalled in a 2012 interview with Town and Country magazine her father's fascination with animal viscera once put a smelly damper on a childhood family vacation to Hyannis Port, MA.A upon learning a whale carcass had washed ashore on nearby Squaw island, the elder Kennedy made a beeline for the beach and proceeded to decapitate the animal with a chainsaw.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, there's that story.

[Big T]

That's in the eighth paragraph.

[PFT Commenter]

There's also the story about when he. He Planted the dead bear in Central Park.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This guy has a fascination with dead animals. So I. I need to know, number one, why. Why did he want the raccoon's penis? Like, what was it about that part of the raccoon that he wanted to study? Number two, what did he learn from the raccoon's penis? And these are the questions that have not been answered so far.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah. Where are the findings?

[Big T]

There's only one man that can answer that.

[PFT Commenter]

I would like RFK Junior. RFK Junior. I know that you're active on X.com, the everything app. It's all happening on X. We are the media. Elon's given us that. That duty. I was about to say. Right, but it's more of a duty. It's a calling. On x.com, i pose to you, I would like to know what you learned from the raccoon's penis when you studied it later. Was it. Was it fuzzy? Was it. How many holes did it have?

[Big T]

And, you know, he's doing telescoping. He's doing himself a disservice by not addressing this because we are only left to speculate what he did.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. Right. So. And every day, he remains silent on what he found out about the raccoon's penis. We're probably having thousands and thousands of people that go out there harvesting their own raccoon penises.

[Big T]

You think?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, he is. He has just created a thousand RFK juniors by not. By not explaining what he found out like it does. The fact that it does not address what he found out when he studied it later tells me that there's something that they're hiding from us.

[Big T]

Yeah. TMZ's new Washington Bureau caught him and asked him about it, and he just laughed. He didn't answer. They asked him what he did with it, and he just said, so we're only left to guess.

[PFT Commenter]

He doesn't know what to say to that. Yeah, the Washington, D.C. tMZ bureau has. They've gotten off to a pretty hot start. They just basically ask questions that everybody would like to ask to the congress people, and the congress people just woefully unprepared.

[Big T]

How did this take so long?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. I don't know. It's just, like, all you got to do is send, like, one dude with an Australian accent to ask all these questions, and they have no idea how to respond to them. Like, Lindsey Graham, tell me about your bubble wand trip to Disney World. And he just. I'm not talking about that. Like, it's. It's kind of ridiculous.

[Big T]

Yeah. I don't know what took him so long. How long's TMZ been around? Since 90s, I think so.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What was team. Were they originally like a magazine? Like one of the. One of the tabloids that you get at checkout.

[Big T]

That sounds plausible. I do not know.

[Liam Blutman]

It says it was created on November 8, 2005.

[Big T]

Wow.

[Liam Blutman]

And it was always. It was a celebrity news website that quickly gained prominence with major exclusives like Mel Gibson's 2006 DUI arrest.

[Big T]

They had Kobe first, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they had, I think Michael Jackson first, too.

[Big T]

Do you know what TMZ stands for? I just learned it.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big T]

TMZ stands for 30 mile zone, a term referring to the historic studio zone radius in Los Angeles.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, shit.

[Liam Blutman]

So it was at first a website in 2005, and then it became a TV show, TMZ on TV in 2007. So almost 20 years, by the way.

[Big T]

I know it felt obvious from the beginning. I think it's very apparent now that Nancy Guthrie is. Has passed away, but we just gave up on that. Nobody's looking into that anymore.

[Liam Blutman]

Cash is drunk.

[Big T]

But, like, the police, there should be.

[Liam Blutman]

I know.

[Big T]

It's so sad, and maybe they are, and it's just nobody cares anymore.

[Liam Blutman]

But I also think if there's no updates, like, there's no updates to say, you know.

[Big T]

Yeah. Well, did you see last week, Savannah Guthrie was interviewing Anne Hathaway, I think, on the Today show, And then they came back from commercial and she was gone. And it. Hoda replaced her. So there was speculation as to what if there was something new or.

[PFT Commenter]

So they found a new ransom note

[Big T]

too, Right, a week or two ago. Yeah.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah. TMZ got sent another one.

[PFT Commenter]

So where are we at right now? What is the status?

[Liam Blutman]

Nothing.

[PFT Commenter]

There's absolutely no update.

[Liam Blutman]

I think they get ransom notes, but I don't know if you can completely corrupt, like, confirm that that's from a real source.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. It could be.

[Liam Blutman]

Well, we can at least.

[PFT Commenter]

It could be like a psycho or a weirdo that wants to get involved.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah, exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

That sends their own ransom note.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah, but it's not like. I mean, also, they're not gonna tell the general public before there's something.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Liam Blutman]

Concrete. Like, they're not gonna. It's the same thing with the Idaho Four, where everyone was like, how have they not found anything? And then all of a sudden, they pop out with Bryan Coburg and they're like, oh, yeah, we busted him like three days ago. And Whatever. So I'm sure that hopefully they have something and they're just not telling the general public. But, I mean, it doesn't seem to have been that there's any leads or anything. They still haven't found that person that was in the mask from the ring camera.

[PFT Commenter]

That's crazy, too.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah. Having the ring camera footage and still not knowing who it is is really scary.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, I guess I. I might have drastically overestimated the capabilities of the surveillance state.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I figured that something like this. And I don't know anything about the neighborhood that she lives in, but I figured doing something like this would be impossible to get away with, given not only, like, the ring camera that was at that house, but, like, neighbors ring cameras. Cameras when you go through, like, toll booths, cameras on convenience stores, just all that stuff, like the ability to track people's phones where. Wherever they go. I would think that if you just, like, gathered all that data, you could find cars that were in the area.

[Liam Blutman]

Rare sur. Surveillance state.

[PFT Commenter]

L. Yeah, big time.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah. Usually now they're. They're catching pretty quick. This is a rare L from the surveillance. Surveillance state.

[PFT Commenter]

I did also read the article about Cash. Oh, how cash is. Cash is. He likes. He likes to have a cocktail or two.

[Liam Blutman]

Bring your checkbook. I'm suing your ass.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So he's kind of, like, changed his tone a little bit from, let's go. Let's. We're going to do the lawsuit thing. And now that's kind of changed to him being, like, the fact that they're writing this about me tells me I'm winning. Which is. That's, like, step two. I think maybe after he talked to some lawyers who were like, hey, dude, they're going to get discovery on you. And then that means they have access to, like, every text that you've sent.

[Liam Blutman]

That's the last thing.

[PFT Commenter]

You do not want that cash. I promise you, that is the last

[Liam Blutman]

thing Cash Patel needs.

[Big T]

There's. There's been a development on that in the last two hours. Have you seen that?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I have not.

[Big T]

FBI Director Cash Patel is suing the Atlantic for $250 million.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, shit.

[Big T]

Story on his alleged drinking.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, where's. Where's this news?

[Big T]

Cbs. I mean, it's everywhere, but that's where

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to read about that.

[Big T]

FBI Director Cash Patel filed a defamation lawsuit against the Atlantic magazine on Monday, saying a recent story about his alleged frequent drinking and absences included, quote, false and obviously fabricated claims.

[Liam Blutman]

They had nine sources, so if not, they. They Got nine people to lie about the same thing.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, if they did that, then, like, respect. That would be a great way to take down the news. But, yeah, I guess, like, if you hated the Atlantic, you get a group of people together to, like, be sources for them for an article and just lie to them, and then if they run with that story, then it's like, you know, your fake news for trusting the lies.

[Big T]

That would be sick.

[PFT Commenter]

That I guarantee that they've tried. Not specifically, like, this administration, but, like, people have tried doing that.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Now, okay, so he's suing them for 250 million. So, again, not a lawyer. Always need to say that 250 million is a lot of money. Where did they come up with that number?

[Big T]

I think if you're claiming damage to your reputation and whatever, you can just kind of name whatever number you want.

[PFT Commenter]

But he. So he's got a job with the FBI and the salary is public, right?

[Liam Blutman]

Yes. Let me see how much he makes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I would guess. What would you think the director of the FBI makes?

[Big T]

I mean, the president only makes three or four hundred grand. I'm going to say the director of The FBI makes $280,000.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it. Let me go three. But also, he. He had his podcast thing going before that.

[Big T]

We're just talking state income.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we're talking his income right now.

[Liam Blutman]

Like a successful girlfriend, because.

[PFT Commenter]

That's right. Yeah. Do you think she's going to do a prenup with him? So if you.

[Big T]

I'm seeing 200, that's just on, like, the Google AI thing.

[Liam Blutman]

I keep saying that he has made at least 2.1 million from his other ventures.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah. It says the estimated salary is 220,000. Isn't it public?

[Big T]

Yeah, it should be, I would imagine, but maybe for, like, that high of, like, cabinet positions there. It's not public.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think so, but I would

[Big T]

say 2 to 300 grand.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that sounds fair.

[Liam Blutman]

Safe guess, because I know, like, Congress is 174,000. Yeah. This says as FBI director, he would receive a federal salary, likely around 200,000, but that's just an estimate.

[PFT Commenter]

So if he is suing for 250 million, that implies, like, if he got fired from his job, you could be like, yeah, this cost me if I'd worked at this gig for 100 years.

[Big T]

Well, that's the actual damages, I'm sure, are a million dollars. And then the punitive damages are 249.

[Liam Blutman]

Right, right. And then you have to think about. Alexis is Spotify Streaming, and that's probably 249.

[PFT Commenter]

So they'll have to. They'll have to go through discovery. They'll have to go through. They'll have to prove that the reporter acted with actual malice.

[Big T]

They named her as a defendant as well.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

It seems like both sides are pretty dug in, which is interesting because.

[PFT Commenter]

So when it comes to the. The defamation, they have to prove that the reporter knew that the claims were false.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They have to prove that the reporter acted with actual malice to try to damage Cash Patel. So it's. It's very difficult.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh. And then they have to prove that it did end up damaging him. So it's super difficult to prove a defamation against a public figure, which is entirely different conversation. Because I do think that at times that's. It's not. It's not great that it's so hard for somebody to win a lawsuit to defend themselves if they haven't done anything wrong. But in this case, it seems like most lawyers would be like, hey, they're going to get your phone. They're going to get every text message you've sent. This is a bad idea. He's. My guess is he's probably hoping that they settle out of court.

[Big T]

Yeah. So here's what would be interesting. Let's say what you described is what happened. They. They conjured up this group of fake sources who gave this story to this reporter. She feels she has it thoroughly vetted. Goes with it. I believe you have to. It's reckless disregard for the truth is the terminology that you have to have acted with.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Would that be applicable in that scenario?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I don't think that it would. In fact, I think that if. If there were sources that presented themselves as being real, and they might be,

[Big T]

these people probably work in the FBI.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. But let's just say, hypothetically, every source is making it up about Cash. That Cash, the only time he's had a beer since he's been director of the FBI is in the locker room with the US Hockey team. And that's on camera. But besides that, sober. Right. If all these people from the FBI, acted as sources, lied to the reporter from the Atlantic and said, hey, Cash is doing all this. He's passed out. We had to get, like, the jaws of life out because we thought we couldn't get into his room. And he's putting us at, like, a. In a difficult position in terms of national security. He's a. He's a danger to the security of the United States. If they made all that stuff up and they told the reporter that the reporter corroborated that story with other sources at the FBI. In that event, couldn't Cash Patel just sue all the people from the FBI that made up those stories? Because it seems like they would be the ones that slandered him and acted with actual malice to hurt him. Even if maybe their agenda was to feed a fake story to get the reporter in trouble for reporting something that's completely made up and be like, haha, made it up.

[Big T]

Yeah, I don't know how that would work.

[PFT Commenter]

So I guess it could be. So who else does he name as a defendant in this?

[Big T]

It was the Atlantic and Sarah Fitzpatrick.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's, it has nothing to do with the sources.

[Big T]

It's just the 19 page lawsuit filed in the District of Columbia seeking 250 million in damages. Sarah Fitzpatrick, the reporter who wrote the story, is also named as a defendant. Okay, so yeah, those are the only two listed that I see.

[PFT Commenter]

I want to see what happens.

[Big T]

Well, because he either. But in the scenario you laid out, he would know who the sources are. Right. Are you saying. So I guess it could have gone two ways. Cash Patel could have given them, said we're gonna plant this story and see if they run with it.

[PFT Commenter]

Like an op. Yeah.

[Big T]

Or these people conspired against him to do it. So it could actually be there on his team or against him.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. It could be deep state. Yeah, I think that's the angle that he's probably going with is like the, There's a, at least nine people at the FBI that got together and they are the deep state. And they don't like the fact that I've fired some of their former co workers or like rock the boat too much. And so they conspired against me to plan a fake story to get me fired. And then those people should then probably be the ones that. Because if you're the reporter and you've got nine people from the FBI telling you this, you try to vet it. I, I don't have a legal process works for that. I don't know all the different hoops that you have to jump through to, to get it published. Because I know that like if you're the Wall Street Journal, if you're the New York Times, if you're like CBS News, you've got so many lawyers that work for you that they tell you, okay, you need to, you need to button this up and make sure that this is ironclad before you publish it. I don't know how it works at the Atlantic, but If it's not true, they definitely expose themselves to. Yeah. Massive, massive lawsuit. The question is, is it true? Cash does seem like a party guy to me.

[Big T]

Yeah. It doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility, but do you go after a publication with a $250 million lawsuit if you're not absolutely positive?

[PFT Commenter]

You could, because you want to intimidate them?

[Big T]

Seems like a terrible idea.

[PFT Commenter]

It might not be. If you have no intention of ever going to trial. You. You just filed the lawsuit for 250 million. It makes you look like you're fighting it.

[Big T]

Try to get a settlement.

[PFT Commenter]

Try to get a settlement. And then it signals to maybe if you have a boss out there that pays a lot of attention to the news, maybe your boss sees that you're filing a massive lawsuit to fight whatever this is, and he's like, good job, Cash. Way to fight. That's another possible explanation.

[Big T]

But then you're gonna look bad at some point when you drop it.

[PFT Commenter]

No, because people, when you drop a lawsuit, it never gets the same amount of attention as when the lawsuit's filed.

[Big T]

That's true.

[PFT Commenter]

And there's also a good chance that you could just settle it out of court. And the Atlantic says, we will pay you a million dollars to make this go away, because we don't feel like spending all this money on a legal department, and it's going to be a long fight. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here's a million dollars. And they could be like, okay, done.

[Big T]

That actually is nuts that you could just sue somebody if. If this story's true, you. You put a massive lawsuit against them, and then it's cheaper for them to just give you a million dollars.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Than to go through and prove it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you have the army of attorneys that you would have to hire. To go up against the director of the FBI would be just overwhelming. Now, they do have, like, a lot of places have lawsuit insurance, but then if you use it too much, then the premiums on that go up just like any other kind of insurance. So one of the claims that he's denying in the lawsuit is that he drinks to the point of intoxication and drinks to the point of excess. I don't know how you. That would be a tough one to prove is false when there's. When you're on camera drinking beer. Right. So the lawsuit listed 17 allegations in the article that the legal team alleges were false and defamatory statements of fact, including that he is known to drink to the point of obvious intoxication. That is a very tough. Unless you never drink beer. That's a tough one to prove.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because then you're just like, I. Yeah, you know, I drank six beers, but I was not obviously intoxicated that day. And then other people will be like, yeah, you were. And then you. That's. That's all you can say.

[Liam Blutman]

And notably on camera, celebrating with a lot of alcohol.

[PFT Commenter]

And then. Yeah. The Atlantic said we stand by a reporting on Cash Patel. We will vigorously defend the Atlantic and a journalist from this meritless lawsuit. It's a second lawsuit that Patel has filed in connection with media reports of his allegations of drinking and partying. Last year, he sued Frank Figliotti, an MSNBC analyst and former FBI agent, over claimed that Patel is spending more time in nightclubs than the FBI's headquarters. That case, filed in the U.S. district Court for the Southern District of Texas, is still pending. So he's got two lawsuits right now. Sorry for partying. They're the sorry for partying lawsuits from Cash Patel. And listen, I don't want to tell a guy that you can't. You can't hang out. You can't have a good time. He's a sports fan. He likes hockey. Good for him. But you just can't. You just can't do it if you're the director of literally, the FBI.

[Liam Blutman]

When he's like, what, Can I not live my life? No, I actually don't want you living your life for the next four years. I kind of just want you focused on this one thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Again, I want to. I want the most. No nonsense, person.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like the. The toughest hang that you could ever have.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I want it to be like the strictest teacher you've ever encountered in your entire life. A guy that has zero sense of humor. A guy that goes home and eats the exact same dinner every night with his German shepherd. Yeah. He watches his same program every night. He does a crossword puzzle for fun at lunch.

[Big T]

Wait, whoa, whoa. All the other stuff. Okay. What's wrong with that?

[PFT Commenter]

Nothing's right. That's his one source of entertainment that he ever has that he allows himself to have.

[Liam Blutman]

Doesn't have a Twitter.

[Big T]

You're not a crossword guy.

[PFT Commenter]

No, crosswords are great.

[Big T]

Nothing sounded pretty anti seaworth.

[PFT Commenter]

I can see how that might have come across as anti cross. I'm saying the only outlet that he has is he does across one. One crossword puzzle a day.

[Liam Blutman]

Doesn't want to get too involved.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Liam Blutman]

And doesn't do it on his phone because he doesn't want. No tracked. He doesn't want. He doesn't want someday to be subpoenaed.

[Big T]

I respect getting a little ink under your fingernails.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I want him to be.

[Big T]

You're talking to the guy that takes a scorebook to baseball games.

[PFT Commenter]

I like.

[Big T]

I like a little pen and paper.

[Liam Blutman]

We're all on the same now.

[Big T]

I do. I do the crossword on my phone.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You know what? I'll even allow him that. Big T. I would say that you can do.

[Big T]

Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

You can do your crossword. He a guy that does his crossword by himself at lunch every day, and then once a year, he goes to a single baseball game and he keeps score.

[Big T]

Cpft these kids now, they want to play all these little word. Oh, I played wordle today. And what's the connections? Is that what it is? And New York Times bought all of these, and so they're now all on this app. And my crossword app is now cluttered with all this Gen Z bullshit that I have to wade through to get to the real crossword. I got to get through connections and wordle and Bloggle and all this other shit strands to get to. I don't even know what that one is to get to the real stuff. And it's upsetting.

[PFT Commenter]

It is very. It sounds upsetting.

[Big T]

I pay a monthly subscription to do my crossword.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And all these kids, now all they want to do is play wordle.

[PFT Commenter]

Mm.

[Big T]

It's a joke.

[Liam Blutman]

But honestly, that's the vibe I want the FBI director to have.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Liam Blutman]

I don't want Cash Mattel. I don't want Cash Patel to feel joy for the next four years. Not because I don't like him, which I don't. I need him to be zoned in. Hey, I need you to tap out of the Twitter. I need you to get out of the space.

[PFT Commenter]

Ideally, he would have no idea what Twitter was. Ideally, like, he would have a technology guy that would explain Twitter to him for important cases.

[Liam Blutman]

What is Bill Belichick call it?

[Big T]

That's performative.

[Liam Blutman]

But I want him to be. I want him to snap face real well now, especially.

[Big T]

Yes. He definitely. He's on him now. Yeah.

[Liam Blutman]

Right. But I hate this level of unseriousness. I have to deal with Kash Patel. Like, you need to fucking tighten it up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He eats the exact same dinner every night, which is like, meatloaf, white rice. White. White rice, slash potatoes.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah. A starch of some variety.

[PFT Commenter]

A starch. And then he's got, like, his peas

[Big T]

and his carrots that Sounds like prison.

[Liam Blutman]

It's like the movie Hitman before Glen Powell becomes the hitman in the show. Yeah, that's exactly what he is. He's like a high school teacher. He wears his cargo pants, button up all the way to the top, no buttons. Drives to work, drives home. That's about it.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, I could even see him because he gets home so late. Probably in my mind, he gets home at like 9:15 every night. He's working so hard, but he tapes the baseball game. He. So he gets home and he's got the VHS and he taped the baseball game and he pops it in, watches it from the start, and then he sits there by himself.

[Liam Blutman]

He doesn't know what Twitter is, so he doesn't have spoilers. Does the scorebook on his recliner has a recliner?

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe he has a small dog.

[Liam Blutman]

Oh, see, I think German shepherd.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it might be a small dog that he like, scratches its ears. And it's funny because he's such a

[Liam Blutman]

serious guy, you'd think he'd have the German shepherd.

[PFT Commenter]

But he goes for a walk and it's like a little Boston terrier. That's like making all the funny noises.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah. Does he have a walk?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Wife?

[PFT Commenter]

Ex. Wife.

[Liam Blutman]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Liam Blutman]

Kids?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Daughter.

[Liam Blutman]

Daughter. I knew it.

[PFT Commenter]

She kind of hates him, but respects. But they. Yeah. It's just like, oh, that's Daddy.

[Liam Blutman]

That's just Dad.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I understand why you couldn't be the. For me. Dad.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah. What did he do before this?

[PFT Commenter]

Just cop. Just cop his entire life.

[Liam Blutman]

Cop his entire life?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Cop. Sl. Prosecutor.

[Big T]

Would you be able to tape a sporting event anymore? I couldn't do that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What is the. If we're doing like the super bowl, how long do you think you could last with the super bowl without it being spoiled?

[Big T]

Where are you?

[PFT Commenter]

Your normal day to day life here in Chicago.

[Big T]

Right. But on a Sunday, like night, you're not. In order for there to be the necessity of you taping it, you'd have to be doing something else.

[PFT Commenter]

Mm. I'm saying if there was a competition to see who could go the longest without.

[Big T]

I mean, you could just sit in your house with no screens on and you could not know for as long as you want.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but like.

[Big T]

But I'm saying if I have to go somewhere, if I'm obligated to be somewhere at the time a game is on, I have to figure out how I can watch it live. Because I. You. I can't tape anything right now. And now you can watch stuff on your phone. So it's good. But are people still doing that?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I don't think so. I don't think. Yeah, it's impossible to avoid the spoilers, but, like, if you absolutely had to avoid a spoiler, let's call it game one of the World Series, Big T. And you didn't want to find out who won? No. Let's just go back to the Super Bowl. If it was a contest to see who could last the longest without getting the super bowl spoiled for you, how long do you think you could go if you really, really tried? But the rules are you have to go about your data. You have to.

[Big T]

I mean, I could make it to Monday morning, coming in here, and then obviously I would find out, because you

[PFT Commenter]

would just go to sleep. You'd fall asleep early, not look at a screen, and then you'd come in here and you'd find out.

[Big T]

If I didn't want to, I could go. Weeks, you think?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Weeks?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. I think it would. I think it would slip in.

[Big T]

I mean, the answer is just however long you can go without your phone or TV or even just social media, you could do whatever you want as long as you stay off social media.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think you could try. You could. You could sit for hours on end coming up with different words that you wanted to mute on social media, and it would still slip by.

[Big T]

Yeah, I've got a lot of muted words.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah? Has there been an update on those?

[Big T]

I haven't added any in a long time, I don't think. Accounts, certainly. But not words, I don't think.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah,

[Big T]

a lot of them are years and years old.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I did see last week that there's a new Top Gun coming out.

[Big T]

Really?

[PFT Commenter]

See that?

[Big T]

I did not.

[PFT Commenter]

It's in production right now. I don't know if that means that we're still in script development or if

[Big T]

we start Top Gun muted.

[PFT Commenter]

You have Top Gun?

[Big T]

No, I'm just saying. I didn't see that.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, the new Top gun. Top Gun 3.

[Big T]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

And I got it. You know what I got to do? I have to reach out to Liam's dad. I got to reach out to Mr. Blutman and talk to him, because I've cooked up some storylines for Top Gun 3 that I would like to get into the producer's hands, because I think I've got a great. I've got such a good plot for Top Gun 3 when it comes out, and it would be a shame if it didn't get used. I feel like we have to use It. Now. It's now or never.

[Liam Blutman]

Shouldn't you say it here so that if they do use it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, good. Good call.

[Liam Blutman]

You want to say it too early in case they steal it.

[PFT Commenter]

But then I, then I can be like, you're stealing my idea on record.

[Liam Blutman]

We're reverse Breaking Bad. We're getting back what Breaking Bad took from you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And I think I've even said this on the air. I think I said it maybe to Miles Teller when we had him on the show. But yeah, it's no brainer for Top Gun 3. It's the, it's the Casey Jones. Or wait, not Casey Jones. That's the guy that was the, the engineer. It's the John Henry. It's a modern day John Henry story. John Henry was the steel driving man. He was either a sharecropper or a slave. And he was working on the railroads. And he was the strongest man that you've ever seen. He would lay track faster than anybody else. This guy was a. A machine of a man. And then the steam engine got invented and it threatened to put all the guys out there, like John Henry out of work. And so they arranged a competition between John Henry and the, the, the drill that would go through a mountain. And they, they wanted to see who would, who would work faster, who would work harder. John Henry beat the machine going through the mountain, and then he died at the very, very end after he proved that humans were still superior to the machine. Classic story. Now think about that applied to pilots and AI drones.

[Liam Blutman]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The government shuts down all the manned pilot programs in the Air Force, the Navy, et cetera. And they're like, we're only going with the AI drones. And then Tom Cruise has to step in and prove that humans can still beat the machine because there's something that the machine can't do that only Maverick can. And they don't program Mavericks into the code.

[Big T]

That's strong.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that they program rules into the code. And the most important part about being a Top Gun pilot is knowing when to break the rules.

[Big T]

I love this.

[PFT Commenter]

That is Top Gun 3. Let me write at least a part of it.

[Big T]

Do you think they'll name an enemy in this one or it's just the enemy.

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of like how it's a faceless enemy. Although real, real wing heads out there spotted that it was probably Iran last time because remember when they hijacked that plane to fly out?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When they, like snuck into the air base. That was an F14 Tomcat. And the only other country on earth that has F14s besides us. And we've decommissioned all of our F14s. The only other country that has them is. Is Iran. Because we sold them to Iran back in like the 80s.

[Big T]

And then we did the Top Gun mission to Iran in real life.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Listen, art and life have become just like one of the same.

[Big T]

What's that? Conditioning? Is that what the they call it?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, we've been conditioned.

[Big T]

By the way, is Twitter down for you guys?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Liam Blutman]

Yes.

[Big T]

Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

But yeah, it was. It's great that they're doing another Top Gun. I would just love to be a small part of it. Use part of my story. Or I'll just be in the background. If you need a background actor, like in the bar, I'm sure you're gonna have a bar scene where Maverick and whatever. The hotshot pilot, if it's going to be Miles Teller, like, they go. They chat up some women. I'll just be in the back drinking a beer or I'll be. If you want to like, put me in a plane, that'd be fine too.

[Liam Blutman]

If they. If they were to take you up on all this and put you in the movie and let's say they gave you a big enough part that you are accredited, like, you have a name, what would your call name be?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, my call sign?

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Fuck.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good question. I don't know.

[Liam Blutman]

I feel like we've. We definitely did this when Top Gun 2 came out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But I can't give myself my call sign. That's something that, that your colleagues have to give you.

[Big T]

T, T, T. What if it was. I think we did. Someone asked this on like a voicemail and we. I don't remember what I said. What about Mike for you. But M. I see.

[PFT Commenter]

That's good. Yeah. Yeah, I like that.

[Big T]

How much would you pay to be an extra in that movie? You're. You're on screen for one second, but you're in a flight suit and you get to keep the flight suit.

[PFT Commenter]

Are we talking not like a fleeting pass? Yeah, Full.

[Big T]

There is a 1. 1000. Yes. There is a 1 second scene where you are visible in the background and you're wearing a flight suit that you get to keep. How much would you pay for that?

[PFT Commenter]

How much money would I pay for that?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I. Probably. More than anything outside of a house, more than anything that I've purchased in my life.

[Big T]

50 grand.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big T]

100.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. That's where we're getting to.

[Big T]

So like 75 for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In that. In that area and 100.

[Big T]

You'd think about it, right?

[PFT Commenter]

But I have to be. Not the director's cut. Not.

[Big T]

No, you're in the movie.

[PFT Commenter]

Not like the extra.

[Big T]

For one second you are in the movie.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm on the big screen. You can clearly see that it's me. I'm wearing a flight suit. And I get to keep the flight suit.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. It's somewhere in the 50 to $100,000 range. I would. I would 100% do that.

[Big T]

So if they said 125, you'd say no.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. At that point, a man's got to have a code stand for nothing.

[Big T]

You'll fall for anything.

[PFT Commenter]

At this point, they're just taking advantage. My very generous offer. Like, usually you have to pay the actor to be in the movie. Typically, yeah. Actually, you know what? I might run into some problems with the. With the SAG if I did that.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The Screen Actors Guild might break.

[Big T]

Do you have to have a card to be in a movie for one second?

[PFT Commenter]

I imagine that you probably would have to get your card, but I would. I would get my card for that.

[Big T]

You don't have one already?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I would. Yeah, I would. Whatever it takes. I would be very interested in that. So let me know if you are the producer of Top Gun and you're Macrodosian, just reach out and you can take some of my storyline. I think it's a good story. I think people would like it. Or if you need, like, why are you spending all this money on script supervisors and subject matter experts from the actual military when you can just use my brain. And I've played over 200 hours of flight Simulator, so if you have a question about any of the planes, you can just ask me instead. Save yourself some money.

[Big T]

Do you think Mark Blutman knows Jerry Bruckheimer?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Jerry Bruckheimer, 82 years old. He's an absolute legend. Armageddon, Top Gun, Beverly Hills Cop, National Treasure, Bad Boys, Pirates of the Caribbean, goat.

[Big T]

F1.

[PFT Commenter]

F1.

[Big T]

A movie whose plot I still am searching for, but was entertained by.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Mm.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a big John McCain fan. Looks like it. Yeah. I mean, that's apropos of nothing. I'm just. I'm just reading about the man. Listen. Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, my God. Yes. He produced Kangaroo Jack.

[Big T]

Oh, wow. Would you like to make a call right now?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big T]

Yeah, I would like for you to.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I gotta. I gotta call. I'm not gonna say who I'm going to call, but this I do Know

[Liam Blutman]

a friend who had a small role

[PFT Commenter]

who had a small role in Kangaroo Jack.

[Big T]

The list of these movies is hysterical. Remember the Titans, Beverly Hills Cop, Pirates of the Caribbean, Top Gun, National Treasure,

[PFT Commenter]

Kangaroo Jack with Pirates of the Caribbean. That one from. We're having this debate the other day. Do you say in general Caribbean or Caribbean?

[Big T]

I say Caribbean with the exception of those films.

[PFT Commenter]

Same. What's up with that?

[Big T]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, let's.

[Big T]

You said you weren't gonna.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sorry. Bleep out that name.

[Big T]

Tell him. Tell them Big T would love to be in the film if. If they're just taking, you know, requests if Jerry's not picking up telephone number.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't believe Jerry's not picking my call.

[Big T]

Wow. Is that a first?

[PFT Commenter]

It's one of the first. Yeah. Jerry is usually 100 answering. Let me text.

[Big T]

Tell him please call back before the end of the show. I'd love to resolve this today. Do you have Mark Blutman's number?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't have his phone number, no.

[Big T]

Should we get Liam in here?

[PFT Commenter]

They definitely know each other. Yeah, let's get Liam in here.

[Big T]

Let's. Let's try to figure this out.

[PFT Commenter]

Full court press.

[Big T]

I mean. Yeah. Strike while the iron's hot. He is here. I saw him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, okay. Because, like, if they're making this movie right now, we have to have these conversations.

[Big T]

They're already in filming.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I don't know if it's in filming or if they're still writing. I just. I read about it, like, last week, and it sounded like they were still in the writing process, but who knows? These things move fast, you know? You know how Hollywood is, Big T. Okay, so we'll get back to that in a second. Standby. Also in the news today, Big T sent this one over. There was an accounting error revision that brought Ilhan Omar her net worth from $30 million to $95,000.

[Big T]

Yeah, did you see that?

[PFT Commenter]

That was in the Wall Street Journal. Yeah, I just saw that. I just read about it.

[Big T]

So she, I guess in her tax filings last year approximated the value of her husband's venture capital firm and Winery at 25 and $5 million the previous year. They were. Hold, please. She valued them at, like, $1,000. In her latest financial disclosure filed in May 2025 and covering 2024, Omar valued husband Tim Minot's venture capital management firm, Roselyn Capital, at 5 to 25 million dollars and his winery, St. Cru. It's E S T Cru. I don't know, between 1 million and 5 million dollars. Far greater than the $1 to $1,000 and 15 to $50,000. She valued those businesses at the previous year, and then this year, her. She valued her assets at 95 grand.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so it sounds like, correct me if I'm wrong, she included her husband's business as part of her assets and then revised that to say that that belonged to her husband, not to her.

[Big T]

I don't know if she didn't count them this time or if the value was just drastically reduced. I don't know exactly what happened. Okay, but they claim it was an accounting error. Okay, not necessarily that. Just the valuations went down. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. I. I don't think the value, from my understanding, I don't think the valuations of the business went down. I don't think that his, like, venture capital fund went to $0 or whatever.

[Big T]

Well, she said it was a thousand dollars the year before, so who knows what they're value in this stuff at?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I don't know. But I. I do know that she married a rich guy.

[Big T]

Well, now she says she's not. But she says she's not rich.

[PFT Commenter]

She's not rich, but her husband's rich. I think that's. I think that's what the claim is here.

[Big T]

The controversy stems from a massive gap between her original filings, which estimated her assets between 6 million and $30 million, and a newly amended report that places those assets at a much lower range of 18,000 to $95,000. So it does say those assets, Right?

[PFT Commenter]

Her assets. I don't know if that's saying that

[Big T]

sentence says the same assets. I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, we got to figure this out.

[Big T]

But either way.

[PFT Commenter]

Either way, she. Either way, she should be way better at taxes. Given that she's in Congress, I would assume that she has access to some pretty good financial tax people.

[Big T]

Yeah, I would love to figure out what that accounting here was. Do we have Liam Blutman?

[PFT Commenter]

I just gave him the zoom login.

[Big T]

Is he not here?

[PFT Commenter]

No, he just left. He said, I don't know where he went. See, we got to figure out. Get to the bottom of the. The Ilan Omar thing. I mean, if your husband is a rich person that has a venture capital firm and you're married, I feel like most people claim those as being, like, joint assets, right?

[Big T]

Yeah, like.

[PFT Commenter]

So the. The general theory or the principle behind it is, are you avoiding conflicts of interest in your job as a congressperson? And if you're legislating on things that your husband could stand to profit from. It also stands to reason that you would profit from those things. Yeah, yeah. Okay. What else we got in the news today?

[Big T]

That was most of it. Have you seen the Gen Dex?

[PFT Commenter]

No. It's that.

[Big T]

So there was a British engineer who set up an AI call center basically to call every bar in England, ask what they charge for a pint of Guinness. And then he compiled all of that into a website that lists the national average and the cost at every bar. So now the bars have found out about this and the free market at work, they are all trying to lower their prices to be the lowest Guinness in the area. Now that they know you can look

[PFT Commenter]

at the GYN decks because it's easily comparable.

[Big T]

Right. So do they.

[PFT Commenter]

What? Yeah. What data did they get out of that? Are there certain towns that have like the cheapest Guinness?

[Big T]

I'm not sure, but you can go to the. There he is.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

How's it going friends?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hello.

[PFT Commenter]

It's going well. Good to see you.

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

Nice to see you.

[PFT Commenter]

I had a question for you because in the news this week we've seen that that Top Gun 3 is in production right now and I didn't know if, if your dad had any Sort of connection with Jerry Bruckheimer, the famous producer that's working on this, or anybody that might be working on the project. But I've got some great ideas for a script for Top Gun 3.

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

Okay. I don't know who that is. I haven't seen either movie. But I look forward to taking notes on. On your ideas and getting it over to Mark.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so I can send you my notes? Yes, and then you can send those to. To your dad and see if he can get those in the right hands.

[Big T]

We also were just wondering if. If Markey does know Jerry Bruckheimer, anyone else associated. We would just love to be considered maybe for an infinitesimal role in the film. Non speaking, of course. Just maybe Jerry. Just maybe we're hanging out in the background at some point.

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

How do you spell this guy's last name?

[PFT Commenter]

B, R U, C K H E I M E, R. Okay.

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

I'll text Marky and ask if he knows him. Now we wait.

[Big T]

We potentially get. Get Mark on the show and we could.

[PFT Commenter]

We could talk about it. I don't know if what I'm doing right now is, like, considered way, way, way outside. Outside the bounds to the point where they're not allowed to accept outside solicitations on things. Some places are like that. Like, I know there's a lot of record companies that if you send them, like, your demo tape in the mail, they will never listen to it, because if they listen to some things, then they open themselves up to being sued if one of their bands has a song that sounds like a song that you sent in.

[Big T]

You probably should have done that with Breaking Bad.

[PFT Commenter]

I probably should have done that, yes, 100%, but, yeah. So it would just be my dream, Liam, to have some small part in Top Gun 3. Whether it's, you know, one aspect of the storyline or if it's just me in the background for a second wearing a flight suit. Whatever the case may be, just. I want to tell them that I'm here to help.

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

Okay. I have decent news for you.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

Marky's response is, I don't personally, but a good friend of mine does.

[Big T]

Why?

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

That's a step in the right direction.

[PFT Commenter]

It is a step in the right direction. And is his friend Jerry o', Connell? Because I did notice that is not okay. I did notice that Jerry, you know, he was in Kangaroo Jack. That was a Jerry Bruckheimer joint.

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

Interesting. Okay. Kangaroo Jack, one of the first films I watched.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a good one.

[Liam Blutman]

May I ask how Marky and Jerry know each other so well, so I,

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

I, yes, this is a good question. I honestly had thought that through me and Luki working here, that that had like, helped ignite the friendship. Not the case. Marky and Jerry have known each other for years and years. I believe Marky cast to Jerry and something, if I'm not mistaken, long ago. And they've been friends since. And him, those two and Howie love gang coffee.

[Big T]

Every morning, Correct?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, every morning.

[Liam Blutman]

I love that.

[Big T]

What a crew.

[Liam Blutman]

Seriously.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Liam Blutman]

That's amazing.

[PFT Commenter]

Liam, if you could tell him like, I don't know how much of this you want to share, but the general premise is the story, the, the age old story of John Henry going up against the machine. But this time it's Maverick going up against AI drone technology.

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Topical.

[PFT Commenter]

They're trying to get the pilot, the real pilots, out of the biz and, and Maverick has to go in and prove that there's still room in this world for a human pilot. And I, I, you can listen to the whole tagline. I put out a whole spiel about it earlier, but basically it's like the, the computers don't know. They're great at a lot of stuff. They don't know when you have to break the rules. That's only something that a Maverick can do. Top gun 3 in theaters is silver.

[Big T]

You want a tagline?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

One mission. The drone couldn't have flown.

[PFT Commenter]

That's good. It rhymes. Yeah, yeah, it's good, but I feel

[Liam Blutman]

like that kind of gives it away right off the bat.

[Big T]

No, it tells you what we need.

[PFT Commenter]

Mm. Man verse machine. Maverick. Verse machine.

[Liam Blutman]

I like Maverick. Verse machine.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's it. We don't have to throw that out there. We'll think more about the tagline, but the general idea, the nugget, the seed of the story, I think, is very solid. So again, I'm just here to help whatever they need.

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

You, you, you sound like you're willing to give it your all, and that should be appreciated.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Okay, well, let me know what, what your dad says also. Tell him I say hi.

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

He said. Okay, I'll tell him. You say hi. He said, o' Connell is my top Jerry.

[PFT Commenter]

That's fair. Mine too. Mine. Unless Jerry Bruckheimer brings me under his wing.

[Big T]

Where's Jersey?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Jersey. Jerry. Well, he's, he's my, he's my number one Gerard.

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

He's my number one Gil phone. My number two Gerard.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's your number one Gerard? Ryan Gerard.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Come on golf.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Come on golf.

[Liam Blutman]

Come on, golf.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, blood. Have a Good one. I'll let you get back to it. Okay.

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

I'm gonna go sleep. You guys have fun.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big T]

I mean you and I do wub.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true. That's. It's about to be late season too, where we got NBA playoffs, NHL playoffs. And so I'm going to be. Wait, I'm going to be going to bed at like midnight. Waking up at 5:30 for Wub. That's fun.

[Big T]

I got a bed at midnight anyway.

[PFT Commenter]

I always wonder what people. Well, if it's. If it's like NHL or NBA playoffs sometimes pretty late.

[Big T]

No, but on a normal day, no sports. What time are you going to bed?

[PFT Commenter]

11:30. Okay, 11.

[Big T]

So that's, that's almost midnight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but sometimes you get the overtime. You get like the four overtimes. You got to stay Up.

[Big T]

And it's always in Vancouver.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. So it's the late game anyway.

[Big T]

Not this year because they suck. But. But somewhere out there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but it's the late games and then. Yeah, you know how it goes. It's fun. I'm not going to complain about it, but I always like to imagine, like the super early morning people. Like the Mike and Mike's of the world. If you get on the radio at like 5:30am or 5am there's zero chance that you stay up to watch all the games.

[Big T]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Especially as you get older. If you got like, kids and stuff, these guys, they don't stay up to watch the games. All right. We got some other stuff going on in the news. Big T, do you want to talk any sports?

[Big T]

What about them?

[PFT Commenter]

You have any NBA playoff takes?

[Big T]

I know that CJ McCollum kicked Jalen Brunson in the dick.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big T]

That is the only series I could name you both teams that are playing.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big T]

You could not name the spurs are playing the Trailblazers. Because I saw some discourse on the. The court.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What'd you think about the court?

[Big T]

Not a fan. Doing a lot out there. Yeah. I believe those are the only two series I know both teams competing.

[PFT Commenter]

It is. It's a. I think it's a cool court. There's a lot going on. I think it's extremely unintimidating. I think it's almost like, welcoming.

[Big T]

Yeah. I said we're here for a fiesta.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I said on pmt. It feels like a jumpy air castle.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is great. They're a lot of fun and it looks like a fun environment to be in. But I'm not. I wouldn't be, like, afraid. I would be afraid of Wimby, but I wouldn't be afraid of the court. I think the court has to step up its game.

[Big T]

Did they win?

[Jerry O'Connell]

They did.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And it was really close. Wimby was awesome. This just might be the wimby. The NBA might just become the Wimby show for the next 10 years.

[Big T]

Who's on the Trailblazers these days?

[PFT Commenter]

You got Stefan Castle.

[Big T]

He is on the Spurs.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, sorry. Sorry.

[Liam Blutman (joining segment)]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

In that game. Who's on the Trailblazers? I knew that on the Blazers you've got Donovan Klingon.

[Big T]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

From Yukon. Kling Kong. Then you've got the guy, the Israeli guy that was on the Wizards. What's his name? Denny Avdiya. Yeah, that guy.

[Big T]

Oh, they have. Or they don't have Sengoon anymore?

[PFT Commenter]

No, he. Where did he.

[Big T]

Rockets Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Are you a Gooner? No, I'm a Gooner.

[Big T]

I just know that he gets a lot of triple doubles.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I am a. I'm a Gooner. I believe in the man. Oh, I want to ask you about this, Big T, because I know you don't really care about the NBA, but you should start to watch wimby.

[Big T]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Because the sport, the entire sport is just going to be Wimby. Ultimately, Wimby.

[Big T]

Well, the sport of basketball, as far as I'm concerned like that, it's just in college and then they don't. I wish there was a way you look, watch those guys play after that, but that's it. Big T, it's actually good now. They get extra years in college and stuff. They play forever. So it's better because once they do that, you know, I don't know where they go.

[PFT Commenter]

Big T looks at the NBA like most. Most people look at the Senior Tour.

[Big T]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. Now, if they're in college, if they're in the NCAA tournament, that's the show.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then, you know, they can go off if they want to keep playing and. And collect a paycheck. There's an avenue for them to do that in the NBA later. But ultimately the peak of the profession is college basketball.

[Big T]

Yeah. Like Nate Amen. He's talking about leaving college after his freshman year. I don't know why he would do that. He needs to continue getting his education. He's really good at playing college basketball, too. He. He's just going to give up basketball.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big T]

I don't know why he would do that, but yeah. I wish there was a way to keep watching those guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So I know you don't really care that much about, but it will end up being like there's a big regular season and a big production made every year in the playoffs, and then ultimately it's just going to be women, Yama and whatever team he's on, probably the spurs for his entire career.

[Big T]

Do you remember Cooper Flag last year at Duke?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

What's he doing? I mean, he was awesome at playing basketball and now is he selling insurance somewhere? What's he doing?

[PFT Commenter]

He's probably going to win rookie of the year.

[Big T]

In what?

[PFT Commenter]

In the NBA.

[Big T]

Oh, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

National basketball.

[Big T]

So he is still playing.

[PFT Commenter]

He plays basketball.

[Big T]

Oh, that's good to hear.

[PFT Commenter]

For a job.

[Big T]

Okay, good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He found a place to land where he doesn't have to get a real job yet.

[Big T]

Okay, good for him. Because it was fun to watch.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it was. But in a sport that you do care about a little bit. Is Tottenham going to get relegated?

[Big T]

So they, they got a big draw this weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

So I think if you had gone into this weekend and you had said, do you have to get a win? I think most people would have said, you would like a win, but you just can't have a loss.

[Big T]

No, that was a big draw for them.

[PFT Commenter]

You need, you need to get a result. You need a point out of it. Now, the way that they end up getting that draw might have actually made it worse, though, because they were winning and it was five minutes into added time, five minutes out of eight into added time, and then they gave up the equalizing goal. So it was a win that then became a draw at the end. That probably bummed him out a lot. But now if you look at the odds, big T odds for Tottenham to be relegated at the end of the season, I believe that's minus 1:30.

[Big T]

That sounds about right.

[PFT Commenter]

And for West Ham to get relegated now, it's plus 150. So those kind of flip flopped over the last week. So right now Tottenham is a favorite to be relegated, which would be fucking hilarious if it happened.

[Big T]

Yeah. West Ham is a point ahead of them, but they have played one fewer games. So if they win that game, they'll be four points ahead. Tottenham plays Wolverhampton, who's in last place. I mean, if they lose that, it's over. Yes, but they should win that game. Then they play Aston Villa, who's very good. They, Aston Villa should take care of them. They play leads.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, Jerry's calling. Hey, Jerry, what's up? Hey, PFT comments are you're on Macrodosing podcast right now? Live to tape.

[Jerry O'Connell]

What's up?

[Big T]

Hey, Jerry.

[PFT Commenter]

That's Big T. Hi, everybody.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Big, big fan of the show.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you, Jerry. I appreciate that. Really looking forward to seeing you in Vegas.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, yes.

[PFT Commenter]

When I called, did you think that there was an outside chance that I was inviting you to go to the spring break experience in Vegas,

[Jerry O'Connell]

the show that you guys are doing that Annika and Nikki were fighting over?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Yeah, that's the one.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, sure, I would love to go. I, I, you know, I, I have to admit, I have not watched anything this weekend. I just, I, I know there was some sort of meltdown by Annika, but I love Annika, and I think Nikki and Annika were sort of breaking off into their own. Into their own sort of like little, little unit, and that's something I did recognize. We did Camp Barstool. I think they are very close. I was watching them Quite intently when we were at Camp Barstool. It doesn't seem to be sexual. It seems to be just two friends. I couldn't believe I would watch them at Camp Barstool. They would sit with each other for hours and just talk. And I was like, what are they talking about? Like, I mean, you know, like, my wife is my best friend. Everybody knows that. Rebecca Romaine, look it up. And I. I mean, I'm good for 10 minutes with her, tops. And then just phones out and just, like, that's it, you know?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And we're. We're best friends, but, like, Annika and Nikki would talk for hours and hours and hours, and they would just, like, look out at that lake at Camp Barstool. Lake. Lake Barstool. And just talk. So they obviously have a connection that. I mean, there's no denying that they have a connection. But you would love to go. You know what? I'll watch all the clips.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry, let me just interrupt. I'm not actually inviting you to go out. I'm. I'm just saying, like, when I called, I wondered if that's the reason that you thought I was. We're going. We're still going to Vegas for Max's bachelor party, but I. I don't think that they've got. They've got the. The space for you to go out there this week.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, then why the. Did you just say that?

[PFT Commenter]

I said. I said I want to know if you thought that's why I was calling. That was a bad way that I phrased it. That's very misleading. I apologize.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, when you say call, I just assume it's something that can't be put in writing, you know?

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So that's why I call up.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I didn't realize we were on air until you said we're. Are we on air?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we're on the air right now. This is all for air. But I. I do have a real reason why I called you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Let me. All right, well, now that we're playing the guessing game, let me guess.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I know you're into flight simulation. I know I send you flight simulator videos. This is going to be something about naval pilots, Jerry. You're hot or moves or something.

[Big T]

You're hot.

[PFT Commenter]

You're hot. You're very. You're. You're lava hot right now, Jerry.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's going to be naval straight of Hormuz. Do I want to go in on a flight simulator business?

[Big T]

Colder, you get a little colder.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay. Flight simulator. Do I want to be your wingman? And some sort of dogfight. Online dogfight.

[PFT Commenter]

Not really online dogfight, but, I mean, we could.

[Big T]

You could talk about something. But he does need you to be his wingman, in a sense, for this ask.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, wingman for this ask. Does it have to do with me? I. I mean, I know we're on air. I want to apologize for portraying Geno Smith on your podcast. That was. That was insensitive.

[PFT Commenter]

It was great. It was fantastic.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Actually, I. I should whisper this. I know I'm on air. I am amazed at the lack of fallout from that either.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, either.

[Jerry O'Connell]

People did think it was actually, like, funny, and they were like, let's give it a pass. It's so funny, the fine line between what's offensive and not. It's like, yeah, it's like, if it's really funny, it's. It sort of gets some, like, you get a pass.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You know what I'm saying?

[PFT Commenter]

Were you a little bit offended that. That there weren't people out there being like, I can't believe Jerry OConnell did. Did this?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, at first I was like, wow, was more famous than this. But then something happened to me. Big cat it to me. Where Next. Accent or something. I may really go for it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, you. I. I thought it was very funny. It's the hardest that. That I've ever laughed.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But, I mean, I might try. I might go Indian. I don't know. I might Middle Eastern something. I'm gonna. I'm gonna really. I'm gonna. I'm like, I'm gonna be someone who tries to get canceled.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry, can you do a female voice

[Jerry O'Connell]

like a manta? I love you.

[PFT Commenter]

That's pretty good.

[Jerry O'Connell]

When I see you, I'm gonna suck and get yourself. I'm gonna let you put your finger in my butt just like Urban Meyer. That's the only coach cheating scandal situation we're allowed to talk about out here. There seems to be an embargo.

[PFT Commenter]

That was really good, Jerry. I think. I think you could do that. We could try to. I'm gonna put that in my file of, like, the amazing things that Jerry o' Connell can do in terms of acting.

[Jerry O'Connell]

This would be a good one, we call it. But I'm sorry. I'm not talking about your podcast. I'm talking about part of my take. But I was just listening to when you called up. But be fun to say, like, I'm a exotic dancer who's pregnant with Max's child.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. You put a baby in me. Max, I recognize you from your Hair. It was him. Also his belly. They know. He told me he was dieting and he had trouble getting it up because he's on a GLP1, so his blood flow isn't the same, but we got it up and you came inside and you gave me a job. Are you on the air?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we're on the air.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, that's okay. This is good stuff, Jerry. This is good stuff.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But on your show.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I. I had a question for you, Jerry.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Anyway, I was gonna guess. Yeah, something about. Oh, is it about the moose?

[PFT Commenter]

It's about naval aviation. It is a hundred percent about naval aviation.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I knew it. Oh, by the way, you listen on my feed, if you put a naval ship blasting a hole in an engine room with precision, I'm. I'm watching that. And I do want to apologize, too, to anyone who's offended. You show me a video of a drug boat getting blown up. I'm watching the whole thing. Especially at night. I love the night vision ones.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Really good stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, I'll send you some content, for sure, but I, I had a question for you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Do you have stuff that's, like, not for air?

[PFT Commenter]

No, this is for air. It's a question for air.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, but, I mean, but, but, but, but do you have, like, content that's even a little, like, dark web stuff?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I can send you some stuff that I have not put out. Yes.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, send it.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Send it right to my text. I'll watch it all. I love that stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, I. I will absolutely do that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But, Jerry, I know that's sick of me, but, man, just, like, waiting for it to blow up and then it does, and you're like, there it goes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And. And you're always going to watch until the end of the video, too.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Gotta do it. Gotta do it. And you also look for. I'll be a little discreet. I realize this is. This is for air, but, like, you look for things flying, flying away. You look. You specifically really lean into your phone to look for things flying away from the blast. You know what I'm saying?

[PFT Commenter]

I hear you. I'll get you some, Some great content, Jerry. Some fantastic content. So I do. I got a question for you. It's about navalation, but it also relates to your experience as an actor. As a famous, famous actor. In Kangaroo Jack, you worked with one Jerry Bruckheimer, correct?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so Jerry Bruckheimer, he's also producing Top gun, Top Gun 3 coming out. I've got what I think is maybe the best storyline ever for Top Gun 3, which I'm willing to give for free or just get. I just want to contribute any way that I possibly can. If that, if that means being an extra in the background of one scene. If that means if, if they want me to send over any notes through you or through Mr. Blutman.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Young lady. I know a young lady who's pretty high up at this. At his production company.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Huge Steelers fan, by the way.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Huge like crazy. It's funny. I guess I'll say to her. There's a podcast and one of the guys is really into flight simulating and he has a story idea for Top Gun 3. You know what they're going to say? Yes. Don't even send it to me because they don't want there to be any. Like, they don't want to be able to you to say. Yeah, they don't want to be able. They don't want you to be able to say that you stole. That they stole your idea.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I. I hear that. Non solicited material. Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Can't say her name. If you want to reach out to her on social media, you can just.

[PFT Commenter]

How about you just text me her name or social media handle. I can reach out to her name.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm also not sure that she wants to be known on macro dosing.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. Like we won't say her name. You just text me her name and I'll do it. I'll do it myself. Not on the air. Or if you just. If there's a way where I could just be an extra on that movie, that would also make me very happy.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Are you, Are you keeping the storyline close to the vest?

[PFT Commenter]

I know I said it out loud just like 10 minutes ago.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, just give me like two sentences.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay? All right. John Henry, the steel driving man. The age old tale of man against machine as he plowed through the mountain and he finally defeated the steam engine, proving that humans are still superior to all the modern inventions. That's what I'm looking at in Top Gun 3, where it's man against drone. AI, drone technology. The government cancels all the contracts and says, no more fighter pilots, no more fighter planes. We've got drones, we've got swarms of drones. We don't need people anymore. And then Top Gun Tom Cruise gets up there and he's like, sometimes you need a maverick. And he proves that that a man is still necessary in today's modern warfare where he takes out. Because, Jerry, listen to this. The most important part about knowing the rules is knowing when to break Them. And, and the AI drones, they don't know when to break the rules that are coded for them.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Right, right.

[PFT Commenter]

But you know who does is a Maverick.

[Jerry O'Connell]

They'll, like, know when to break it and stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

No, they don't. They don't. Jerry, you can't. You can't program a machine to. To break its own rules. Can you just go with us, Jerry? Can you just do me a favor and. And roll with it?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'll tell you my biggest problem with AI is, like, I'm at that age now where anytime I see any story or any video or anything, I just assume it's AI.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's a problem.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's. It's wild. It's. But maybe there'll be a return to people like Maverick and, like, what you guys do and all that stuff, because I can't go on the Internet anymore. It's just like, I don't even know. Is this real? Is it not? I mean, I guess it's kind of interesting. It'd be crazy if it was. I have to ask in comments, like, is this. Is this real?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, I think that's a good idea. I think. Gosh, if I were you. If I were you, pft, I would. I would do this through social media. I would. You know, I think Jerry Bruckheimer is active on social media.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, I'll try to reach out.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I would, like. Because I'm just trying to imagine, like. Like, I would love to be hired by the Bruckheimer Company. And I'm just trying to think, like, if I went to one of their higher ups and said, there's a guy named PFT and he has an idea for Top Gun 3. Who can he talk to over there? Just trying to imagine if that would lessen my chances of ever working at that company again.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'd say probably. I'd say it might.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Or increase my chances. Because while I do want to help you out, really my ultimate, like, goal here is to continue working in Hollywood.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Is to make money for yourself. Now, what if, as I reached out

[Jerry O'Connell]

for my children who are about to enter college and stuff, it's not for myself? I'm not really lavishly spending money on myself.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, you have to fix the driveway, of course. So. But if I. If I reach out, can I say I'm good friends with Mr. Jerry O.C. he's. He's a dear, close, personal friend of mine. And. And he said that I should reach out directly to you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And I will tell you, he's a great dude. Yeah, he is just when you work for him, you get it. Literally, you get it. You get why he's as good as he is. It's interesting because it's. It's. You realize there's a real, like, craft to making hit movie after hit movie after hit movie. He's really good at what he does.

[PFT Commenter]

He's the best. He's the best at what he does. Big T. Do you have any questions for Jerry? You looked like you were about to.

[Big T]

No, no. I just had a question for upft, which is Jerry seems to be hung up on, you know, he doesn't know how this will affect his relationship with this company, this person. I don't think you care all that much about your idea being used as much as you do. I think your ask is you just want to be an extra. I think that's your real ask here.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I mean, you could be an extra.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry, we kind of lost you there. Did you pay your bill?

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's probably a line that they have. They have, like, bounced around a little bit.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I will. Listen, I. I will do.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Gonna say. You're probably not the first one to say man versus the drones. I don't want to.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I. I did. I also said it, like, seven months ago when I found out that Top Gun 3 might be a thing

[Jerry O'Connell]

stuff. You're. You're gonna scare off Mr. Bruckheimer.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm just letting you know.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. All right, I. I'll let that go. But, yeah, maybe if I could just be in the background of a scene as an X. How do I. How do I go about getting extra work on one specific movie?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, I've seen some images of you on the Internet. You've been growing your hair out. They're gonna have to shave that. I mean, pilots can't, like, look like they're, like, you know, like. Like working as a. As a. As a repo tow truck driver.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that what you think I look like, Jerry?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I mean, yeah, a little bit. You look like you youw and you're a repo person.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay. I mean, that's. We can talk about that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And you look like you. You look like someone who, like, online, like, jumps out of his truck with, like, a bat and goes, it's not coming off. It's not coming off. Get away from the car. I'm gonna pull away. Get away from the car. I'm gonna drag you. Well, you should have thought about that when you bought it, sir, for the bank. I'm so sorry about your situation. I know nothing about it. This is just business. Get off of the car. I'm driving away like, that's it. You look like a little bit to. To me, and I know that's generalizing and stereotyping.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's okay. They. They have wigs in Hollywood, so I. I could do something. I. That's not an issue. If it. If that's the hang up, we can work through that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I typed into AI show me a repo person who bought a tow truck. You kind of like what your hair looks like is what would pop up.

[PFT Commenter]

Right, Right. But again, that's okay. We can work through that. There's ways around that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm pretty excited about this bachelor party.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be a great time, Jerry. We will. We will talk to you soon. I appreciate you calling me back. We gotta get just so quickly.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Are you guys going to fish? Are you guys going to fish in Vegas?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. At the Sphere Friday night or Friday

[Jerry O'Connell]

night or Saturday night?

[PFT Commenter]

I. I'll get back to you with the details on exactly when we're going. Are you coming? Okay. Yeah, I'll get back to you with a detail. I think it's going to be on Friday.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, well, then, you know what? I can't. My daughter is performing in an improv group, and she has asked me to perform with her.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, all right. That'll be fun.

[Jerry O'Connell]

A little. Yes. And with my daughter.

[PFT Commenter]

I love that. Love that big key.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Give me a suggestion. Let's get a suggestion from the audience.

[Big T]

For what?

[PFT Commenter]

Improv. We're doing improv.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Just give me a suggestion. Just give me a word. Give me a plate. Something you keep in your pocket.

[Big T]

AirPods.

[Jerry O'Connell]

AirPods. Okay. Hey, you haven't happened to see a left airpod? It's got a little bit of earwax on the tip. And. And the other side has been chewed. Has anyone seen that? See, that's where you would start, like an improv situation.

[PFT Commenter]

And then I. I'd say, yes, I. I saw one of those earlier today. But. But, Jerry, I got some bad news for you. There was a lady that came around, and she was looking specifically to buy only a left earpod because she only has one ear. So I sold it to the lady with one ear.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You sold her one a. One ear AirPod?

[PFT Commenter]

I did.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Did you do that? Who does that? No one sells an airpod like that. All right, we'll. Forget it. Forget it. Listen.

[PFT Commenter]

You're not listening to me, Jerry. It's all going in one ear, out the other.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I know you haven't seen. This is so weird. But it's a workman. Just a left workman's glove. It's like a glove. Like a suede glove. I use it to shovel, but my, my right hand doesn't get blisters, just my left hand. Have you seen a left. Left handed workman's glove?

[PFT Commenter]

I actually did see a left handed workman workman's glove. Yeah. Yeah, it's right.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm gonna need that back. I'm gonna need that back.

[PFT Commenter]

Unfortunately, I thought it was a Hamburger Helper glove, so I, I actually already. I. I sold that one on and seen.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Look at that.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, there we go.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You're pretty good at this.

[PFT Commenter]

You just never say no. That was good. You know what, Jerry? Listen, I don't think it's like too many laugh out loud moments, but I think this is good. Warm up. Just getting the brain going, you know?

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right, text that lady from Bruckheimer.

[PFT Commenter]

But yeah, just, just send me her. Her online info and then I'll just. Let me handle the rest.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Jerry, how do I word this? Hey, there's a guy I know as a podcast, he wants to pitch you an idea.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't have to.

[Big T]

I think we dropped. Yeah, I think we dropped the script entirely. And the ask is just to be an extra.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, just to be an extra.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Guys, no one's gonna read a script. This town. It's not happening. Like, it's got to be like, you just have to pitch and then it goes from there.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, just one's gonna sit down. No one's gonna sit down and read your guys's 400 page manifesto for Top Gun 3. No one's doing that.

[PFT Commenter]

Just say. Yeah, just say that. You know a guy. You gas me up a little bit, Jerry. Be like, he's super attractive, very averagely tall, normal, tall, human. He. He does the number one sports podcast in the, in the world, and he's a massive fan of the Top Gun franchise and a fan of naval aviation.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And we better be nice to this lady's Steelers fan. You. You. You better be nice to Aaron and dk.

[PFT Commenter]

I. Yes, tell her that I will be very nice to DK Metcalf and Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy and the entire town of Phil of Pittsburgh. That's a promise.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right. All right, guys.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Bye, Jerry. Thank you for calling.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, no worries.

[PFT Commenter]

Bye. Okay, I think we made some progress there. Jerry's very concerned leaving that whole thing in. Sure. Jerry's very concerned that I'm going. I'm going to blow up his career. I will not. I will not.

[Big T]

I mean, I understand from his perspective, you know, he's still trying to get jobs. And if you go in there telling these people that you've got a better idea for Top Gun 3 than they

[PFT Commenter]

do, I mean, he makes some good points like that someone's probably had the same idea or a similar idea for the script.

[Big T]

I think you're. You have a good idea for a script, but I think we just leave that off the table and you just go in and say, my name is Pft Commenter. I am a massive aviation enthusiast, and it has been my dream to spend even a tenth of a second on screen in a Top Gun film.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. You might. You might recognize me from my appearance on billions. HBO's billions.

[Big T]

When was that?

[PFT Commenter]

I co starred in a scene with CC Sabathia.

[Big T]

Wow, you're Al.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah. You're famous.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I was on. I was on Billions.

[Big T]

Big T. Congrats.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you.

[Big T]

And you don't have a SAG card for that?

[PFT Commenter]

I think I did at some point.

[Liam Blutman]

You're also on Netflix three times a week.

[PFT Commenter]

Netflix? Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah, my podcast is on Netflix. My other podcast that I sometimes pretend to care about is on YouTube.

[PFT Commenter]

I care very deeply about this podcast.

[Big T]

Well said. 11am what time we get started?

[PFT Commenter]

I did. Sometimes you got 1145, I reckon. Sometimes you got an interview with Kyle Schwaber.

[Big T]

I thought I. I thought I had my ampm mixed up. I thought we might have been going

[PFT Commenter]

11pm yeah, like, what do you want me to do? Just stop Schwarber and be like, hey, Kyle, this is a great story that you're telling about how emotional.

[Big T]

You should have just told me 11:45

[PFT Commenter]

when you hit that home run against the Padres. But I gotta go.

[Big T]

Should ask him about losing five in a row.

[PFT Commenter]

We did talk about his streaks. About, like, how it's a long season. Phil's aren't doing so great right now.

[Big T]

It's a long season.

[PFT Commenter]

A very long season. That's. Why do you get excited after individual games at all?

[Big T]

Yeah, I mean, I watch every pitch, so, like, you know, I want them to win every night.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

But. But you know, you just have to be able to. You got to dissociate from college football brain. I think the Braves uniquely struggle with this because the fan base is so college football centric that they lose two games in a row and people lose their minds. And you got it. You got to shift your mindset, especially later in the season, once it is football season, that really starts to permeate yeah. But yeah, they're. They're on a five game win streak right now. I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

That does that. You make a great point there. I hadn't thought about that. But like the general fan base of the Braves, not everybody, but they probably have more college football fans than most other teams.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That root for them. So, yeah. Not. Not taking the loss is too hard.

[Big T]

Yeah. Braves Facebook and Twitter are. If the Braves lose two or three games in a row, don't go on social media.

[PFT Commenter]

So my grandfather Jack. Jack was a big Braves fan and that's where I grew up. Visiting him down in Greensboro, North Carolina, watching the Braves. And especially over the summertime, he got Braves every night, tbs. It was like, like clockwork. That's what we did. We watched the Braves. He was Frank the Tank before Frank the Tank. Like he. The sky was falling. Like every single time anything bad happened, it actually didn't matter. Like, it'd be the first inning, Fred McGriff would get up and Granddaddy Jack would be like, this is a terrible ballplayer. Terrible ballplayer. I was like, it says that he's batting like 263 and he's. I think they just make those numbers up. There's zero. There's no way he's bad.

[Big T]

So this was like mid-90s. Like when they're in the World Series

[PFT Commenter]

every year, early to mid. One of my first baseball memories was them finishing in last place in their division, which I believe was 1989 or 1990.

[Big T]

Well, 91, they went worse to first, so it could have been 90, but the 80s, they were pretty bad.

[PFT Commenter]

They're bad. Yeah. The Dale Murphy era.

[Big T]

Right. But then 90s, obviously, they were all.

[PFT Commenter]

They turned everything around. So. Yeah, I guess my first baseball memory was 1990. That Braves team, when they were in last place, then they go worst. Worst to first. As did the Minnesota Twins that year. And then they play each other in the World Series, which is kind of cool.

[Big T]

Then the Twins cheated.

[PFT Commenter]

How'd they cheat?

[Big T]

Ken Herbeck.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Ken Herbeck. I thought you were going to talk about the, the umpiring as well.

[Big T]

I'm not familiar with the umpiring in that series.

[PFT Commenter]

They're just, you know, like, not calling it both ways, different strike zones. But yeah, there's. There was a strong, strong element of, of Frank the Tank that ran through my. To the point where he would say, like, they're making up those stats that are on there because I've watched him play all year and he hasn't got a single hit.

[Big T]

Fred McGriff, notably in the hall of Fame now, Right?

[PFT Commenter]

That's right. Yeah.

[Big T]

He was in, like, the most recent committee or whatever.

[PFT Commenter]

The Crime Dog.

[Big T]

I've said this for years, and I may have said it on this show. I don't recall call. It's never been more true than it is right now. For all that people talk about Frank the Tank, he's. He usually ends up being correct.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

The Mets have lost 11 games in a row.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

They. They may never win again.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And I don't know if he said this at the time, but it did coincide with a visit from Comrade Momdani. He showed up at the ballpark. They ain't won a game since.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true. He gave Mr. And Mrs. Met a hug.

[Big T]

Yeah. And they've lost 11 in a row. They.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay that. So there's sometimes where I'll walk around in life and crazy stuff happens.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We.

[PFT Commenter]

We have an amazing opportunity, amazing workplace and job where we get to do things that sometimes feel like we're in the middle of a simulation where you get to meet people that, like, you never thought that you'd meet, etc. Etc. But far more often, I walk around thinking I am in the middle of Frank the Tank simulation.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like I'm an. I'm an NPC in Frank the Tank simulation. When something happens that brings his entire worldview together in a manner so concise that it has to be the work of somebody behind the scenes programing it or writing a script. And when Mayor Zoran Mandani showed up, gave Mr. And Mrs. Met a giant hug, and then the Mets proceed to go on a massive losing streak. At that point, you have to take your hat off and you have to say, frank was right.

[Big T]

Well done.

[PFT Commenter]

This. Frank has dreamed this out and probably verbalized it in the past that this is going to happen. This is just a unique moment where it feels like we're all just living inside of his universe.

[Big T]

They're back home tonight for the Minnesota Twins. You think they. They can snap it?

[PFT Commenter]

No. No, I don't.

[Big T]

I would love. Because at this point, so yesterday they lost. They were up one nothing in the ninth inning, gave up a run in the ninth and a run in the 10th to lose. And so now from 11 on every single night is must watch if they're in a game late in it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big T]

So I would love for this to get to like 15 or 16.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

They do have. They have the Twins and Rockies. So, I mean, if you can't win one of those, man, at home.

[PFT Commenter]

And they're playing Pink Pony Club.

[Big T]

If someone who works at that ballpark has any sense of humor, they will play Pink Pony Club tonight.

[PFT Commenter]

The funny. I actually think the funniest possible outcome be Mets lose and there's some sort of charity function that mayor Mum Donnie is at tonight, and he comes out on stage to Pink Pony Club at the charity function right before. Or as the Mets lose.

[Big T]

That'd be incredible.

[PFT Commenter]

And then it kicks right over to svp and his head is spinning.

[Big T]

Oh, they're actually off today. They. They get the. So tomorrow, Tuesday, they start their series with the Twins. So they have an off day to think about it. Yeah. Please play Pink Pony Club. If you work at Citi Field. That would be unbelievable.

[PFT Commenter]

And one thing people don't realize, but Big T does the best Frank the Tank impression at the entire company. It's. It's scary how perfect. Yeah.

[Big T]

It's honestly too good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You don't want to go.

[Big T]

It's not really. I don't know if you can do it publicly, so it's. You know. But I do. I. It's pretty good.

[PFT Commenter]

The. The start, like, the way that you kick into it is always good.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like that one. That noise.

[Big T]

The clap you got to do.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that.

[Big T]

Keep in mind, just do the grunt

[PFT Commenter]

and the clap because that's the start of a random.

[Big T]

No, no.

[PFT Commenter]

Just the grunt and the clap.

[Big T]

I don't want to be on for. I. Frank and I have a nice working relationship. People forget I. In New York. Maybe you don't know. In the New York office, I had the first desk that you would see when you came into the content side of the office from the front door. So in. In like 2022 was. 22 was the year that the Mets were up like 11 games and blew it in. The Braves won the one. The division. So every morning after the Mets would lose and the Braves would win, Frank would come in right by me and just stop, and he would go into a tirade. And so I have a lot of personal experience. So at some point you develop a. You know, just your brain remembers what it sounds like, and. And that's where that comes from. But I like. He's. I defend him more than anyone. He's never wrong. He. The Mets always lose. The Braves never lose, as he famously said.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big T]

And. And he just keeps. People keep getting mad at him for it. I don't know. They hated Frank because he told them the truth.

[PFT Commenter]

He's right. Sometimes the truth hurts.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

From one goat to Another. I'm working on my T. Bob transitions. I feel like that was a good T. Bob transition from one go to another. Do you have any comments about Michael Jordan showing up at a NASCAR race and like being featured on Fox Sports again yesterday when I think he is a technically speaking NBA contributor for NBC. You remember that?

[Big T]

I do.

[PFT Commenter]

I was thinking about that.

[Big T]

They really sold that one.

[PFT Commenter]

How, how much money do you think they paid Michael Jordan for?

[Big T]

Was it like 1, 2 or 35 minute interviews with.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it was one interview that was Rico. Yeah, it was like one interview that was cut up into a couple different five minute segments. Right.

[Big T]

And they were done by November like the rest of the NBA season. You never saw him again. I'm going to guess. I don't know if it's public or not. They had to pay him $20 million.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's see. I'm just going to look up the press release. Maybe 15 for when they announced it. It was about a year ago they announced it and let's see what they said it was going to include. They list all of his accolades. Let's see. Looking at this press release right now on NBCSports.com Michael Jordan, six time time NBA champion, will join NBC Sports coverage of the NBA as a special contributor. The announcement was made earlier today during NBC Universal's upfront presentation. I'm excited to see the NBA back on NBC. Blah blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, they don't really announce any plans for him at all. So I guess they didn't lie about that. But they. This is a big splash during the upfronts.

[Big T]

Barkley makes $21 million a year. I have a hard time believing Michael Jordan would have agreed to do anything for less than Charles Barkley.

[PFT Commenter]

But he doesn't. That's the thing. It's like they. Charles Barkley shows up to work like every day.

[Big T]

I understand, I understand that. I'm not saying that that's the way it should be. I'm just telling you from the mindset of Mike, he's not showing up for less than that.

[PFT Commenter]

I could see that. I could see him like being competitive. But I guarantee that NBC did not pay him $21 million to do. Are you sure about to do one interview? I'm. I'm not sure about anything.

[Big T]

All right. I mean, you know, they paid him a lot so that. So what's a lot to you? I think there was some sort of. I think they paid him a ton of money. He did this one thing and they were like, okay, what are we going to do with you next. And maybe nothing ever materialized. Maybe he said, like, I'm done. I don't want to do any. I don't know how it worked out, but they paid him a ton of money.

[PFT Commenter]

He definitely got. Yeah, I can ask around. I can try to find out.

[Big T]

I mean, you would agree he for sure got 10 for one.

[PFT Commenter]

For one interview.

[Big T]

Again, I don't think that was the plan.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. But I would imagine if they just got one interview, they probably try to get some of that money back.

[Big T]

You think they're going to Michael Jordan asking for cash back?

[PFT Commenter]

They might. If. If all that they got from him was like a 30 minute interview with Mike Tirico. If that's it. And they paid him $10 million for that, I.

[Big T]

Them's the breaks. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sure.

[Big T]

Why didn't you do more?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sure that the contract had some deliverables written down, like what they expected for the money.

[Big T]

Okay, but if you were Michael Jordan and that were the case, would you not then deliver on that?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. We need to like.

[Big T]

Are you giving up the money you signed up for? I find that difficult.

[PFT Commenter]

We got to take a closer look. Got to take a closer look.

[Big T]

You know people in the biz.

[PFT Commenter]

I do. So I'm going to ask and ask around, see what happened.

[Big T]

Yeah. Find out.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big T]

Look at these big T. Pft. Can you. I need, I need a contact at Shady Rays because I keep mine in my car. But then when I'm at home and I. I go out on a Saturday or something and I need that. But they're in the car and the car's all the way downstairs.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I.

[Big T]

If you could hook me up with somebody.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, see, I paid for these myself.

[Big T]

Is that. Is that what the store you're going with? How do I look?

[PFT Commenter]

I did. Those look awesome on you? They look great.

[Big T]

My great grandmother used to have glasses with this. This print on them.

[PFT Commenter]

Cool. Well, they look awesome on 40 year old dudes too.

[Big T]

Love it.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big T]

Oh, wow. That's an even better deal than I was thinking.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big T]

Yeah, those are the. The pro polarized.

[PFT Commenter]

They're really good. I love every pair that I got. So anything else we want to get to today?

[Big T]

There was just one thing. I sent it. I meant to include it this morning and I forgot. I just sent it to you a little while ago. Do you or did you see Noah Lyle's wedding video?

[PFT Commenter]

I did see that. Yeah. So what's the reaction to that, Ben?

[Big T]

Not good. Ladies, y' all have seen this.

[Liam Blutman]

I saw, like the first 10 seconds of it. Is it he's. Is it him being extremely underwhelmed?

[Big T]

Yeah. So they do the. What the kids love to do now. The first look where your wife comes and taps you on the shoulder and you turn around and say how amazing she looks in her wedding dress. But he seemed not only unenthused, but, like, put off by the wedding dress. He says, like, oh, I can't believe you went with such and such the princess dress or something.

[Liam Blutman]

Oh, he got technical with it.

[Big T]

And she's like, oh, yeah. Like, you know, and he's. And he just keeps. He's like, that train is really long. Like, he's. He's critiquing the dress. Yeah.

[Liam Blutman]

May I watch real quick? And.

[Big T]

Yeah, go for it.

[PFT Commenter]

So he's. He's a strange guy. No. Lyles, you might remember him from. He's. He's always making content.

[Big T]

World champion of what? His infamous quote.

[PFT Commenter]

World champion of what? For who?

[Big T]

You don't remember this?

[PFT Commenter]

Who do you say that about?

[Big T]

He. When he was at the Olympics, he was critiquing how in American sports, we say world champions, and he was like, world champion of what?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. He did the thing where it's like, baseball. You're not the world champion.

[Big T]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. But when it comes to the Olympics, you are. And he's also. He's got dyslexia, add, Anxiety and depression. He's been very open about that. But he's always. I've seen a lot of content against my will from no Lyle.

[Big T]

So put it that way, I think that's fair.

[PFT Commenter]

He's very fast. I have watched one of the fastest

[Liam Blutman]

I've watched the clip.

[PFT Commenter]

It doesn't seem like he's super jazzed about the dress.

[Liam Blutman]

It's just, like, weird because he knows he's being recorded.

[Big T]

Yeah. Like, even if you. I mean, of all the. The times to just say smile and

[Liam Blutman]

hug and just say that your wife looks beautiful.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Liam Blutman]

I know this bar. I mean, like, I know it's hard to ask, but. Yeah. No, he. He goes in with a lot of, how are you gonna dance in this? We're gonna pin it up. He's asking a lot of questions right off the bat.

[Big T]

I would never do this. This operation that they're doing. But, I mean, there is only, like, one thing that you like that you can't do, and it's that.

[PFT Commenter]

It's pretty much what he did. Yeah.

[Big T]

Like, it seems like such an easy. Knock it out of the park.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And you look beautiful. And he struck out.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, my God.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Liam Blutman]

Oh, my gosh. I'm so.

[PFT Commenter]

And then she's so lucky.

[Liam Blutman]

He doesn't say anything about how beautiful she looks or how excited she is. Then. Then she goes. She. She basically folds into him and said, oh, my gosh, I'm so nervous. He goes, why?

[Big T]

Yeah, it's really odd. And how did that video get out? Like, who put that out? It seems to be, like, surely not them.

[Liam Blutman]

It might be.

[Big T]

Yeah. I don't know. Weird.

[Liam Blutman]

Might have been the wedding. Like the wedding photo company. Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Weird deal. I don't know. But people were not happy.

[Liam Blutman]

I always say, though, like, if that's how your husband reacts on the wedding day, I'm sure that's not his first time saying something like that. Like, you chose him. Like, maybe that's just how he is.

[Big T]

I don't want to make sweeping generalizations. It was just an interesting video.

[Liam Blutman]

It is an. I'll put it this way. If that is how my husband reacted to me in that same situation, I'd have. I'd be upset.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You just want to see him excited.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah, God forbid.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, happy.

[Liam Blutman]

Yeah, God forbid.

[Big T]

And if nothing else, even if you hate the dress, whatever, you know you're being filmed, right? I can't imagine having opinions so strong about the dress to begin with.

[PFT Commenter]

But you know what? Almost respect to him for. For not reacting at all in a positive.

[Big T]

Yeah, I mean, you know, that was what he really thought.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You can't.

[Big T]

He's not fake.

[PFT Commenter]

He's not fake.

[Big T]

You can't say that, because if he

[PFT Commenter]

was going to fake it, he'd be like, oh, my God. And it would be like you could tell that he was being. He's being 100. He was being an asshole, but like an authentic asshole about.

[Big T]

Yeah, fair enough. We appreciate authenticity.

[PFT Commenter]

We do. All right, well, hey, good episode of nano dosing today. I think we made some progress on the Top Gun 3 thing. Some major inroads on that. But we will be back on Thursday. Love you guys.

[Big T]

Goodbye.