Reincarnation: Past Lives & Present Questions | Sep 18, 2025

Summary

Macrodosing: Reincarnation – Past Lives & Present Questions

Podcast: Macrodosing, Barstool Sports
Hosts: Arian Foster, PFT Commenter (PFT), Big T, and Guests
Episode Date: September 18, 2025
Main Theme: An exploration of reincarnation and past lives, blending scientific research, famous cases, skepticism, and personal philosophizing—with the show’s signature blend of humor, digression, and debate.

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Episode Overview

The Macrodosing crew dives into the concept of reincarnation, discussing scientific investigations into past life memories, famous case studies, and the philosophical implications of consciousness after death. Alongside this main topic, the crew meanders through engaging conversations about golf matches, scams, video game simulators, heist movies, and classic debates—always maintaining their tongue-in-cheek, relatable tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Updates and Banter (03:11–21:20)

• Golf Recap: The hosts recap recent Barstool golf matches, including their team chemistry, stress of alternate shot formats, and playful admissions of mistakes.

  • Arian: “I wanted to take, like, a six iron. And I'm talking. I'm three inches away from that bitch. Hitting the green perfectly. Exactly. I wanted. It just clipped a leaf and fell down.” (04:29)

• Life Updates: Big T shares a scam story (paying a fake car repairman), ongoing bets with Hank, and a potential ‘manservant’ arrangement over unpaid debts.

• Everyday Life Issues: Laundry preferences, back pain, and acupuncture experiences are discussed with trademark self-deprecation.

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2. News of the Day: Oddities and Simulators (21:22–39:35)

• Alien Meteorite Potato?: The crew debates a viral story about a ‘moving’ meteorite found in Panama, speculating if it’s an alien, just a potato, or silicone reacting with chemicals.

  • Notable moment:
    • Big T: “I actually also think it just might be a potato. I think it might be a potato that's sprouting and maybe rotten...” (25:08)

• Household Dangers: Discussion turns educational as PFT issues a PSA on lint traps, mold, and ‘Oops, that’s deadly’ Reddit.

• Simulator Video Games: The crew brainstorms and jokes about mundane and bizarre life simulators—from ‘podcaster simulator’ to ‘judge simulator’—and play an umpire simulation browser game live.

  • Arian: “Podcaster simulator... Hold down Y to have Benjamin Netanyahu on the show. Hold down B to decline.” (30:14)

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3. Pop Culture & Heist Movies (41:30–80:00)

• Hip-Hop Feuds: A lighthearted tangent on the lore of rapper beefs, especially Bill O'Reilly’s public conflicts with Ludacris and others, and how art is often misunderstood by outsiders.

  • Arian: “I think art should be your raw emotions... That’s what art is, man.” (48:35)

• Heist Movie Debate: The group ranks and debates best heist movies, with the main point of contention being whether National Treasure qualifies as a heist film.

  • Big T: “That's a heist!” (63:18)
  • Arian: "Their goal was never to steal it... The goal was to reveal it." (63:39)
  • Meta: The debate resumes multiple times, drawing in definitions and logic.

• Simulators & Pop Culture: Diversion into the value of actors versus story in films, with Arian and Big T lamenting Big T’s lack of appreciation for ‘the art’ of acting.

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4. Main Topic: Reincarnation—Research, Case Studies, and Skepticism (81:33–147:46)

a) Scientific Investigations at UVA (81:51–87:57)

• Dr. Ian Stevenson & Dr. Jim Tucker: The hosts discuss the UVA Division of Perceptual Studies, which investigates cases of alleged reincarnation, primarily in young children.
  • Notable findings: Reported memories typically emerge ages 2–6, and fade afterward.

b) Case Studies

• James Leininger (WWII pilot, Louisiana): Child recalls details of a WWII fighter pilot’s death; his memories are cross-verified by war records.
  • PFT: “...his son stopped on a page and was like, that's where I died.” (87:32)
• Ryan Hammons (Hollywood actor): Kid remembers being a 1930s Hollywood agent, confirms detailed, obscure facts when meeting the family.
• Atlas (murdered NYC child): Recalls former life, provides full names and picks out associated people/places from photographs.
• Shanti Devi (India): Remembers a prior life as a woman, accurately describes spouse, family, home layout, and hidden money.

c) Patterns, Skepticism, and Mechanisms

• Patterns: 70% of cases in UVA’s files recall violent/traumatic deaths; more prominent in males—a statistic that matches real death rates.
• Skepticism: The crew weighs confounding variables—parental influence, confirmation bias, regional prevalence related to cultural beliefs, and how, especially in India, celebrated cases may encourage false claims.
• Possible Explanations:
  • DMT/psychedelic experiences and consciousness as a ‘vibration field’ (Arian).
  • Possibility of coincidental matches due to billions of former lives.

d) Personal Beliefs & Philosophy

• Arian: "If I was to subscribe to an after death experience, it would be something like what people describe when you do DMT..." (97:15)
• PFT: “I'm like fully agnostic about that... there's no way for me to know.” (119:06)
• Heaven Debate: If given the choice between reincarnation, nothingness, or heaven, the hosts express everything from agnosticism to skepticism and playful cynicism.
  • Arian: “I do agree with that... I would not be looking forward to an afterlife in heaven. It would be so boring.” (120:16, 120:22)

e) Pollock Twins (U.K. Case) (134:17–145:12)

• Famous for claims of being the reincarnation of their deceased sisters. However, the hosts lean skeptical: the girls’ father was a heavy believer in reincarnation, possibly biasing the case.

f) Wrap-up: Favorite Animals to Be Reincarnated As, Penguin Trivia

• Arian: Orca whale (“no question”)
• Big T: Maybe a bird or penguin (after hearing about their romantic habits)
• Penguin trivia and debate leads to a digression on odd animal facts and niche choices for reincarnation.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Arian (on DMT and consciousness):
  “When you take them... you feel like you are the world. Like when you listen to music, you feel like you are the music.” (97:29)

• PFT (on proof & skepticism):
  “There are some people that are hoaxing... but [some cases] come from families that did not believe in reincarnation. Usually pretty religious families that thought that had no place in Christian doctrine and they examined them for fraud.” (100:40)

• Big T (on the joy of physical sensations):
  “Using a Q tip when you haven't used a Q tip for a long time, that feels really good, doesn't it?” (115:05)

• Arian (on heaven):
  “I enjoy life. I enjoy doing things I like who I am. I like my people. I would like to see them in another place. That'd be cool, But I just don't think that that was happening.” (146:13)

• Penguin Mating Rituals Discussion:
  “Male penguins search for the perfect pebble. Smooth, round, flat, ideal for nesting. To present to a female by placing it at her feet or adding it to her nest.” (148:42)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening Banter & Golf Recap: 03:11–09:50
• Big T’s Scam Story: 09:37–10:46
• Simulator & Umpire Game Segment: 27:01–39:35
• Heist Movie Debate: 61:00–80:00 (particularly 63:00–67:00 for National Treasure tangent)
• Main Reincarnation Topic Begins: 81:33
• Dr. Tucker/UVA Research Explained: 81:51–87:57
• James Leininger and Other Child Cases: 87:57–97:15
• Arian’s DMT/Consciousness Theory: 97:15–100:32
• Shanti Devi Case: 102:47–104:49
• Pollock Twins Discussion: 134:17–145:12
• Wrap-up: Favorites for Reincarnation, Penguin Facts: 147:01–153:49

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Tone and Style

• Playful Skepticism: Hosts mix curiosity with skepticism, emphasizing the need for evidence but open to wonder.
• Conversational Digressions: Frequent, good-natured sidetracks, rambunctious debates on pop culture, and storytelling.
• Original Language and Humor: Keeps to the hosts’ informal, banter-filled style, with candid admissions and silly hypotheticals.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode of Macrodosing is part philosophical salon, part classic barbershop argument. The crew explores reincarnation through science, famous cases, and personal reflection, all while debating the true definition of a heist movie and pondering the joys of sneezing, Q-tips, and penguin courtship. You’ll get enough wild tangents, skeptical takes, and entertaining back-and-forth to feel like you’ve just spent hours hanging with a group of friends who don’t take themselves—or the mysteries of the universe—too seriously.

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For deeper dives, seek out the Division of Perceptual Studies at UVA and the “classic” reincarnation case studies (James Leininger, Shanti Devi, Pollock Twins). For the full experience, listen for the ongoing National Treasure vs. Inception heist debate and the hosts’ irreverent takes on life, death, and everything in between.

Transcript

[Big T]

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[Macrodosing Host]

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[Big T]

Getting out there to work on your.

[Macrodosing Host]

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[Big T]

I think there's another lyric. Shout out to Bill O'Reilly, I'mma throw you a curve. You mad because I'm a thief and got away with words.

[Macrodosing Host]

I love your rap voice. It's.

[Big T]

No, that's my. That's my Luda voice.

[Macrodosing Host]

The same. No, cuz it's the same for every rapper.

[Big T]

No, it's not. No it's not.

[Macrodosing Host]

You have a very specific cadence and tone.

[Arian]

Very. It's very 1980.

[Big T]

That was ludicrous right there.

[Arian]

Oh no. Foreign.

[Big T]

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[Arian]

Haven't seen the second one yet.

[Big T]

The second one is. It's. Since it's out, we can talk about it. It's a tough look for your boy. Pft. I played like dog. The second round. The first round, both me and Arian played awesome.

[Arian]

That's true.

[Big T]

But credit to credit to Dave and Jersey Jerry for fighting back at the end. We missed a couple big putts and. And they almost beat us, but we ended up holding off.

[Arian]

But, yeah, they almost tied us.

[Big T]

They almost tied. Yeah, they didn't almost beat us. They almost tied us. And Aaron and I, I thought we played really, really good for the first seven holes. They. They made a couple really long putts to keep the score within striking distance. And then at the end, we had to hold them off. But I was very happy with. With both our games that first round, but the second round that we played against Beef and Riggs. There's no more stressful format in golf than alternate shot, especially if you're a guy like me and you suck at golf and you're teamed up with somebody who's really good at golf, like Aryan, because I was just constantly putting him in the.

[Arian]

And.

[Big T]

And up. Every good thing that he did for our team. So that was. That was a tough round to get through. That round was on me.

[Arian]

No, I mean, it's. That's part of it. I like that format because it puts you in, like, challenging positions. And there was a couple shots I. I wish I could have back. Like I remember.

[Big T]

I don't remember which hole it was.

[Arian]

I think it was either maybe number.

[Big T]

Two or something like that where it.

[Arian]

Was a long par 5 and you went right on that other fairway. And I. I wanted to take, like, a six iron. And I'm talking. I'm three inches away from that bitch. Hitting the green perfectly. Exactly. I wanted. It just clipped a leaf and fell down. Couple shots like that. I feel like you know, we could have had back. My driver was not showing up either, so. It's all good, man.

[Big T]

It's all good. Yeah, it was fun. It was a good time. And then there's going to be. There's going to be more videos that come out later, but those were the two rounds that we got to play together. I thought we made a pretty good team overall.

[Arian]

Yeah, man, it was. It was fun riding in the cart with you. I don't know that. Did they. Did they keep the Hitler joke in there?

[Big T]

Probably not. What was that? I forgot what it was.

[Arian]

He said something about. I think I said something like, I killed that bunker shot. And you said something. And you said something about Hitler. It was fun. I don't know how. Exactly how it went.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah, something like that. I. I don't know if they kept that in there or not. I'll have to go back and look at the. Look at the full videos, but it was fun playing with you. And, I mean, I think we were, like, the only. The only group that got a point in that first round, right?

[Arian]

I think so. Yeah.

[Big T]

It was.

[Arian]

It was a tough look for everybody.

[Big T]

Yeah. So.

[Arian]

So that's. That was the thing about it. I don't understand how they picked the team. It was like, they. Why did they do that? Like that? Who was our captain?

[Big T]

The drafters?

[Arian]

Whitney. Whitney. He didn't pick a very good. I don't think he did well at picking captain or picking teams.

[Big T]

He would probably agree with you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he. He picked a lot of his podcast buddies.

[Arian]

Yeah, the homies.

[Big T]

The homies. And to the. I mean, to Whitney's credit, they're all very good at golf. Like, they're usually pretty strong. Golfer, like, biz isn't that good, but Yandel's really good. Whitney's usually really good. I. I don't think anybody played great golf for those first two rounds. There's going to be a third round coming out. But you let.

[Arian]

That's what I'm saying. I'm sorry.

[Big T]

I was just going to say there's going to be a third round coming out next week. So it's not over yet. And the people that are on the team, if anybody's capable of a comeback, I think we got a good squad.

[Arian]

True. But the thing is, like, okay, it's Barstool Writers Cup. You have a barstool podcast that does nothing but golf, and you don't pick any of the golf guys.

[Big T]

Yep. Yeah, it was an interesting strategy by wit, but it was. It was fun. My back was completely up for those rounds.

[Arian]

Yeah. How is your back?

[Big T]

It's doing great. It's. Thank you for asking. I've been doing physical therapy, and I had acupuncture a while ago. I still need to get an mri. If you have a bad back, it's, like, impossible to get an mri. You have to do, like, physical therapy for a year before they let you in. And even still, sometimes you can't get that imaging done. So. I don't know exactly what's wrong. I think it's a herniated disc, but it's been pretty good for the last two months or so. I. I think acupuncture. I think the acupuncture helped.

[Arian]

Could be. But core is. Is. Is very important to. To. To your back issues. You know, I don't know if. Do you know I had a L5S one.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

And herniated this. Yeah. And so, though, that MRI is the worst MRI, because you got to go all the way in.

[Big T]

It's loud.

[Arian]

It's like. It's loud. And you're in there for, like, an hour and some change, and it's just the word. I'm claustrophobic. And so. It's just the worst.

[Big T]

Yeah. You pretty much get locked up in a coffin, and the. The coffin's also very annoying.

[Arian]

Coffin's loud.

[Big T]

Yeah, it's a loud coffin that you have to lay down and not move for a while. So. But I do want to get the. The MRI done so I can know exactly what's going wrong. I think that would be a good step in the right direction. Big T, how you doing? Good.

[Macrodosing Host]

How are you?

[Big T]

I'm doing great. I'm doing great. I enjoyed your take on Tennessee Georgia on Tuesday's show, and I think you were right that if you're going to lose, that was an encouraging loss that you had.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Now that's.

[Macrodosing Host]

I mean, it sucks now.

[Big T]

That said, I got a question for you about Alabama. Are you feeling less confident about your chances against Alabama now that Alabama doesn't look like complete dog anymore?

[Macrodosing Host]

We've got, like, five games before we play Alabama. That's not even on my radar.

[Big T]

Okay. Because you were. You were thinking about how bad you were going to beat Alabama when Florida State beat him.

[Macrodosing Host]

I'm concerned with the University of Alabama Birmingham this week.

[Big T]

Okay. That's the one that you're on.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Arian]

I want to know, Big T. Yeah. I want to know.

[Big T]

What about Mississippi State? Have you thought about Brandon Walker?

[Macrodosing Host]

Tough road environment?

[Big T]

Are you going to do any sort of mayor's bet with Brandon Walker?

[Macrodosing Host]

No.

[Big T]

Just no.

[Macrodosing Host]

No.

[Arian]

Okay.

[Macrodosing Host]

I don't do that kind of thing.

[Big T]

Yeah. All right, Good game. Fuck me.

[Arian]

All right, good game. Fuck me.

[Big T]

So what else we got going on this week? What are you up to, big T? You teed off about anything? I didn't ask you on Tuesday.

[Macrodosing Host]

Not really. Yeah, not that I can recall.

[Big T]

Okay. I. I do have an update with my scam, which is that you got scammed. I got scammed. I. I went home, took a picture of it, felt it, looked at it. The dent and scratch is exactly the same. Exactly the same. That guy, he. And also, I looked at my. My Venmo transaction record. I actually paid 250. He asked me for 200, and then he said, like, if you. If you want to tip, we can tip.

[Macrodosing Host]

No, you said. He said 150. You gave him 200.

[Big T]

You thought, okay, well, I looked at the records. It was 250total. He had asked me for 200, and then I gave him 50 on top of that.

[Macrodosing Host]

Got it.

[Big T]

Car's exactly the same. You know what? Sometimes you got to take your hat off.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Lost this one.

[Arian]

You can't.

[Big T]

You can't win them all.

[Macrodosing Host]

I got got can't get fooled again.

[Big T]

Can'T get fooled again as Arian. He dropped a meme in the chat, which was, yeah, I got got. But I'm gonna end up getting people more than they get me.

[Macrodosing Host]

I'm gonna get mine more than I.

[Big T]

Get God from Marshawn lynch. Which is. It's poetry.

[Arian]

All time, all time quotable.

[Big T]

So, yeah, I'm an idiot. I got to have my head on a swivel. I thought that I did. This guy, he was. He was good. Like, this guy, he should be in sales somewhere, because he was. He was excellent at closing me, but I still feel like a idiot for falling for it. But we'll learn from this, make some improvements, and. And we'll move on. Aaron, what are you up to.

[Arian]

Man? Yesterday I shot a 82, and on the first hole of the day, I had a triple. Okay, but here's. Here's the. Here's the. Here's the shitty part about that triple hit a great tee shot fairway. I was probably like, 10. Now, I wouldn't even say 10, dog. I was probably, like three feet short of the green on my approach shot. And the flag was close. So the flag was literally around 10ft from me, right? And it was uphill, but I was, like, on the fringe. And so when I was by sprinkle head. I probably should have got relief, but I was like, fuck it. And so I kind of like just try to, like, bang it off. And I. And it just hit it just the way you can flush a putter like that. It just pissed me off, so I flushed it, and it just went like 15ft past the hole. And then it's a downhill, and the greens were, like, running really fast. And so I like, three putted from there. And so I ended up getting a seven, which. Shitty way to start the day. But I balled the rest of the day. Like I said. Shot at 82. I think I went on like six or seven par run, which was really. Which was really dope. Yeah, some great shots. But then at the end of the day, shot at 82. All. All preventable. I could have broke my. I could have broke 80. I was. I wasn't mad because I'm playing so well, but I was like. It was little, man. Just little.

[Big T]

That's still a good score.

[Arian]

It's a good score, man.

[Big T]

Yeah. You should be proud of that.

[Arian]

Yeah, it's all good. Life goes on.

[Big T]

Yeah. I got to get back out there. I have a match against Hank coming up soon for $4,000.

[Arian]

Was it match play? Stroke play?

[Big T]

Well, we're going to play match play, but Hank owes me $8,000 because I beat him in a long drive competition, and now he's trying to make that back for me. And one of the ways he's trying to make it back because I'm not making him pay yet. That's a lot of money. But we're going to put five grand on the line. I don't owe him anything if he beats me, but if I beat him, he owes me five. Five? Yeah, 5,000.

[Macrodosing Host]

So you're wiping the eight completely clean.

[Big T]

He's also putting together parlays for me every weekend called the I'm Sarlays, where he's putting 500 bucks in a parlay that would pay out $8,000 if it hits. And then all that money goes to me. Those haven't hit yet. Got it. So he's trying to figure out different ways to work his way out of this. Hank's. He's basically my indentured servant right now. Yeah. So we're trying to figure that out. I got to get back out there and start playing some more golf because I. When Hank and I get to. It's always a good match. It's always competitive.

[Macrodosing Host]

Now, as I recall, you had an incident where your laundry was stolen off your front porch.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

So it's clear you don't like to do it. Why don't you just have Hank do your laundry forever?

[Big T]

That's not a bad idea.

[Macrodosing Host]

And then make sure he can just deliver it to the office to ensure that it's not stolen off your porch.

[Big T]

If I beat Hank, then that's going to be the next option that I give him. Like, you can work this off for how long?

[Macrodosing Host]

How long is five grand worth of laundry?

[Big T]

I mean, it's a long time. That's a very long time. But I would say maybe. Maybe through the winter.

[Macrodosing Host]

Through the winter?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

You just. You just said it was a long time.

[Big T]

Yeah, but, I mean, it's. It's emasculating to do another man's laundry.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah, it is. It's better than paying five grand.

[Big T]

Yeah, that's true. That is true. We'll have to think about that, but I feel like that's a fair offer. Like, through the winter. Got the heavy coats.

[Macrodosing Host]

A year.

[Big T]

Jeans, the pants, the sweaters, all that stuff. The hoodies, jumpsuit. That's the thing. Jumpsuit. January takes up a shitload of space with laundry. It's got to be a year, maybe a year. I think Hank would just. Just pay me. I know he's got the money, but I don't want to ask him for.

[Macrodosing Host]

I'd rather pay for a check.

[Big T]

Yeah. Then do another man's laundry. Yeah, yeah, we'll have to think about that, because also, I'm not sure I'm comfortable with giving Hank my laundry.

[Macrodosing Host]

You don't know what's going on over there.

[Big T]

I don't know what's going on there. And Hank's a dude, and dudes suck at doing laundry.

[Guest]

I didn't want to mention that, but that was the first thought I had.

[Big T]

Guys are not good at laundry. No, we don't understand the rules.

[Guest]

I think he might hurt the quality of your clothing.

[Big T]

Yeah, we don't understand. It's like, oh, you can't wash this with that. Oh, you dried my jeans. Well, now they don't fit.

[Guest]

Not. And I don't mean to put this on Hank, but I don't know if he's going to separate whites and darks.

[Macrodosing Host]

My understanding was you don't have to do that anymore. Is that wrong?

[Guest]

I still do. I do not do that. I don't think it matters.

[Big T]

I think it does matter if it's, like, a new sweater or, like, a new shirt that might be red.

[Guest]

Yes, definitely.

[Macrodosing Host]

Sure. But, like, just general. Like, if it's black or blue.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Guest]

No, it's not gonna, like, run together like in a TV show and turn your underwear pink or something. But I think it keeps your whites whiter.

[Big T]

Okay. They get less dingy.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And less faded.

[Guest]

Yeah. I don't know if Hank abides by.

[Big T]

He. I guarantee you he does not.

[Guest]

But sneaky, though. Hank has, like, a lot of really nice clothes, though.

[Big T]

Hank abides by the rules of, like, I'm gonna take whatever's closest to my laundry machine and just put it in there and just wad it up and throw it in. But, yeah, that's. That's something to remember. If he does agree to do laundry, I will not give him any new shirts that I own. Some quick follow up. I know that during the episode on Tuesday, the Jaden Daniels news broke about him being injured. Not. Not injured, but hurt. I just want to reiterate. I don't think he should play this weekend. I'm sitting. I'm. I'm advocating to sit Jaden Daniels. Then we got the Falcons afterwards. I'd be okay with sitting them for. For both those games.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's probably.

[Big T]

That's probably the right call because then we got Mariota going up against the Raiders, Mariota going up against the Falcons, both teams that he played for. And also Mario to look really good when he got in last year. So just let. Let the young man heal up.

[Macrodosing Host]

Revenge games.

[Big T]

Revenge games, for sure.

[Macrodosing Host]

Where were you for the Marcus Mariota revenge tour?

[Big T]

I mean, he's. He's a pretty good backup.

[Macrodosing Host]

I would say he's serviceable.

[Big T]

Yeah. I would much rather have Marcus Mariota than Jake Browning.

[Macrodosing Host]

Jake Browning seems to play pretty well every time I see him play.

[Big T]

Yeah, I mean, he has won some games. He also threw three picks just this last week.

[Macrodosing Host]

I didn't. That didn't cross my desk.

[Big T]

But it's very funny what the Bengals are doing because they signed. They had Jake Browning, they had Brett Rippon, who I believe might have been on the practice squad at some point. And then they went out there, they got Sean Clifford and they said, we need another Sean Clifford. So they got Mike White. So he got four of the exact same quarterback.

[Macrodosing Host]

What is the ratio of Heisman winning quarterbacks who become like stars versus career backups?

[Big T]

Great question. Let's talk about it.

[Macrodosing Host]

So Lamar.

[Big T]

Great, great.

[Macrodosing Host]

Baker.

[Big T]

Pretty good.

[Macrodosing Host]

Pretty good.

[Big T]

Pretty damn good. But then when you've got Jameis Winston, backup backup. Marcus Mariota, backup backup.

[Macrodosing Host]

Who else we got right now?

[Guest]

Kyler Jaden and Caleb.

[Macrodosing Host]

Jaden, good. Caleb. No, you talk about. You said Star in college, no Heisman winners. How many of them become stars? Quarterback specifically become stars in the NFL versus career backups? Because it seems like it's about 50.

[Arian]

Bryce Young, did he win the Heisman?

[Macrodosing Host]

He did.

[Big T]

Yep.

[Macrodosing Host]

Not good. Devonte Smith good, but he's not a quarterback.

[Big T]

Oh, Tyler Murray, Kyler Murray, it's on the cusp. Cusp of goodish. Good ish. Against bad teams.

[Macrodosing Host]

He's fine.

[Big T]

Yeah, he's all right.

[Macrodosing Host]

Not a backup, I guess, but it seems like you got about a 50, 50 shot of either being very good or not even starting.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

Tebow.

[Big T]

Tebow. Awesome.

[Macrodosing Host]

For one year.

[Big T]

For one year.

[Macrodosing Host]

One, one game.

[Big T]

I just enjoyed Tebow Mania.

[Guest]

Jamis.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yep, we shot him.

[Guest]

Oh, sorry. RG3.

[Big T]

Yeah. Not complicated situation. Yeah, it's complicated. Also. He was a backup for a long time. Yeah. Cleveland Brown and Sam Bradford.

[Macrodosing Host]

Now Sam Bradford, he was a good player.

[Big T]

He had, he had an interesting career because that dude was traded for so many draft picks over the years. It's like every year another team would trade like a first or a second rounder for Sam Bradford. It was wild.

[Guest]

Troy Smith.

[Arian]

Never even heard of him.

[Big T]

Not good. No.

[Guest]

Matt Leinert.

[Big T]

Matt Leinert.

[Macrodosing Host]

Fringe got hurt.

[Guest]

Jason White bad.

[Macrodosing Host]

Couldn't tell you. Whatever happened to Jason White?

[Guest]

He went undrafted.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Guest]

And he won the Heisman.

[Macrodosing Host]

Did he like Oklahoma?

[Big T]

Did he become a dentist? Or am I thinking about somebody else? That might have been the dude from lsu.

[Macrodosing Host]

Lsu, yeah.

[Big T]

Was it, was it Mock, Maddie Mark, Matt Mock, one of those guys became a dentist. I think Jason White might have been pharmaceutical sales career after football. Let's see.

[Arian]

Oh, Charlie Ward.

[Big T]

Charlie Ward, Yeah.

[Arian]

One of the greatest athletes of all time.

[Big T]

You could make the argument. Yeah. Top five American athlete. Charlie Ward, Heisman Trophy winner and then had what, a nine year, ten year long NBA career? Yeah. He got drafted in the first round right by the Knicks.

[Arian]

I don't know what he got drafted, but he. He bald.

[Big T]

Yeah. Great athlete. Awesome athlete. By the way, on today's show, we're going to talk about reincarnation a little bit. And I did not know how fascinated I was going to become with reincarnation. It's crazy. It's crazy. But we could, we can get into it in a little bit. But before we do, let's dive into Big T's News of the day. Big T, I saw this one article that you sent over. It was written by Dante, fellow member of the critical thinking group Chat.

[Macrodosing Host]

To be fair, this was reported other places before Dante did it. I just put Dante's end.

[Big T]

I thought this was his original sourcing.

[Macrodosing Host]

No.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Macrodosing Host]

This has been reported elsewhere.

[Big T]

Okay. So there is a meteor that we have found. And by we, I mean some guy in Panama. A guy in Panama has found a meteor. And the meteor appears to have something growing out of it.

[Macrodosing Host]

Like an alien type deal.

[Big T]

I have a question for you.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Is this. I guess it's a meteorite because it's small.

[Macrodosing Host]

Sure.

[Big T]

It's about the size of a potato. About the shape of a potato. Is this meteorite a potato?

[Macrodosing Host]

Entirely possible.

[Big T]

I think it might be a potato because if you've ever like left a potato out and it starts sprouting.

[Macrodosing Host]

But this thing, this. Did you watch the videos?

[Big T]

I did not watch every video, no.

[Macrodosing Host]

Like, the thing coming out of it is. Is moving.

[Big T]

Okay. All right. So it's underneath some sort of. It looks like a cake dish.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

That it's inside of. And the thing's wiggling around in there.

[Macrodosing Host]

Look at that.

[Big T]

Yeah, it's moving. Couldn't this be something that comes out of a potato, though?

[Macrodosing Host]

Could be. I don't know. I just. I just send the links, brother.

[Big T]

And it grew so big that it outgrew the glass container that it was. It was kept inside of.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah, here's. Here's what the Daily Mail said. A man, a man claims to have found an alien like species within a meteorite, causing a stir on social media. The individual, who identifies as himself as Ken online, said he discovered a small silver colored space rock in a fiery crater in Panama on August 29. Since then, he shared a series of videos on TikTok showing what he described as the meteorite burning leaves on contact and an unruly tentacled organism sprouting from within it. A week after his initial post, he claimed the crater quote shines at night, sharing footage of the dark side glowing mysteriously.

[Big T]

Okay, now I have found. There's one guy goes by Skywatch signal, says meteorite alien debunked. I've been asked to share this here. This is most plausible explanation. I don't know if Skywatch signal came up with this explanation or if he took it. No, it looks like he took it from a scientist who wrote about it. Says wild videos are appearing showing what appears to be a black viscous substance growing from a supposed meteorite fragment in Panama. The clips have millions of views. People are genuinely convinced they're watching alien life emerge. Sorry to break this to you guys, but what it actually is. Poly dimethylsiloxane pdms or just silicone polymer the same stuff used in implants, cookware and various industrial applications. And a little bit of hexane, which is a common organic solvent. The alien wiggling movement is caused by something called swelling. Induced snapping motion which happens when PDMS absorbs hexane and swells. As the hexane evaporates or redistributes. Different parts of the PDMS contact as at different rates this creates or it contracts at different rates this creates sudden snapping movement that look organic and alive. The irregular timing makes it appear like the substance is breathing or Reese are reaching. PDMS has a flesh like texture and appearance. And the swelling contracting mimics muscle movement. And the black color adds to the alien aesthetic. Don't know if this guy's actually a scientist or just a guy that claims to be one online that, that wrote that, but it sounds, it sounds plausible. I actually also think it just might be a potato. I think it might be a potato that's sprouting and maybe rotten or maybe there's a parasite that got inside of it. I odds on or it's just a garden potato.

[Macrodosing Host]

Nobody's ever seen that come out of a potato though. I don't think it's an alien either, but I don't think it's a potato.

[Big T]

I've seen some weird shit come out of potato before. Like I've left a potato for probably a couple months. When I was in college. One time I went home for, for summer break, came back to my apartment, forgot that there was a potato inside the. The pantry. And I. I also think that there's something that might be deadly. If you leave like enough potatoes in a confined space. I think it might emit some sort of gas that could kill.

[Arian]

You can't eat it. I know you can't eat it when they start sprouting. That's. That's toxic.

[Big T]

Yeah. Let's see. Potato poison left in pantry. Let's see what that comes up with. Yeah. Rotting potatoes. If you leave them in a cellar, it creates some sort of toxic gas that can kill you. People have died.

[Arian]

That's a shitty way to go out. A potato got you.

[Big T]

Yeah. Yeah. Killed by a potato that I have. I had a friend that put me on to this Reddit subreddit that I've become very interested in. It's called Oops, that's deadly. And it's just people that like post pictures online. Like, look, oh look, look what I found in my backyard. And it's some sort of snake that will kill you with like half a bite and they're like picking it up or people that pick up the blue ring octopuses, and they're like, look what I found at the beach. Look at this cute little guy.

[Macrodosing Host]

And.

[Big T]

And if that octopus stings you or bites you or whatever, you're dead. Because it's got like, the most deadly toxin. But it's also taught me a lot about different types of mold that people find around their houses. Apparently mold is extremely dangerous. Way, way more dangerous than I thought that it was.

[Arian]

Yeah. Especially I think, in humid climates. Right.

[Big T]

Yeah. If you get like black mold and you breathe that in for a while, they can. That can kill.

[Arian]

You.

[Big T]

Also educated me. This is one thing that guys. I'm assuming there are a lot of guys that listen to the show. I know that you might not be great at laundry, as we've discussed, but clean out your lint traps in your dryers because people are always like, yeah, those can start fires, burn your house down. A lot of people might not even know that their laundry has a lint trap inside of it. Like, did you know when you went to. When you got your first dryer, Big T, did you know that there was a lint trap that you had to clean out?

[Macrodosing Host]

Yes.

[Big T]

Aaron, did you?

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Macrodosing Host]

Didn't do it as often as you're probably supposed to. Yeah, I was aware it was there.

[Arian]

When I was younger. I was. I was tasked. My mom would always make me clean the lint trap out when. For the family. So I was always the one. I. It was kind of fun.

[Big T]

Oh, you liked it, man.

[Arian]

Yeah. You get the scrape off the lint. It was. Yeah, I guess as exciting as you can when you're doing that.

[Macrodosing Host]

It does have a similar satisfaction to like a power washing video game. You watch something become wipe, wiped clean.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

Is there lint removal videos?

[Macrodosing Host]

I wouldn't imagine so, but I've seen weirder. They're supposed to be coming out with a second power washing game soon.

[Big T]

Like an upgraded version.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Like you say, like, same studio, like new maps.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Oh, I love that. Yeah. What would you like to see in the update release?

[Macrodosing Host]

I mean, I've. I've done it all. I just need. I. When I get bored of playing MLB or NCAA or whatever, I just go power wash. And I do. I've done every map on the game, so I just do the same one over and over now. And I'm so efficient at it. It's. I've got to have a record.

[Big T]

Hmm.

[Macrodosing Host]

I've done the skate park on power wash. No fewer than 150 times we.

[Big T]

Got to get you a new map.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah. Supposed to be coming out.

[Arian]

I've looked. They have lint removal videos, but they're more extreme. You know the little. The little foil tube that's connected to the wall?

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Arian]

They disconnect that and it's like anaconda.

[Macrodosing Host]

I've seen those.

[Arian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lint remove. That's. I actually had to have that done. I didn't know why my dryer wasn't working and so I called the guy and my. Was all backed up.

[Macrodosing Host]

I thought you meant video games. I've seen those videos.

[Arian]

Nah.

[Big T]

What other simulators do they need to come out with that they don't have yet?

[Macrodosing Host]

Podcaster.

[Big T]

Podcaster simulator.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Like do you actually have to sit down and do a pot or you control it on the control.

[Macrodosing Host]

No, because you can just do that. That's just doing the job. You do it on the game.

[Big T]

Is this keyboard and mouse or is it console.

[Macrodosing Host]

I'm always. I. I exclusively play games on a console, so. But whatever you want.

[Big T]

Like press A to do an ad read.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Press B to start a beef with. Has 99 of the exact same opinions as you or like sort of thing.

[Macrodosing Host]

These two companies want to advertise. You've gotta. You've gotta pick which one and then you. You get your currency up and then you can go buy new equipment.

[Big T]

I got that. Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's how I actually think there. There's something here.

[Big T]

Hold down. Hold down.

[Arian]

Why?

[Big T]

To have Benjamin Netanyahu on the show. Hold down B to decline issue apology. Yeah, yeah. X issue apology notes app. Yeah. Press down on the D pad. If you would like to do a show that's just you reacting to another show.

[Macrodosing Host]

Those are big.

[Big T]

Those are. Those are huge. Are we. Are we at the point now where we're getting videos of like X reacts to X reacts? Probably.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

That was on Tik Tok. I see a. A reaction to a reaction all the time.

[Big T]

I do like the videos where it's like this person hearing this song for the first time. Yeah, I love those are always very wholesome.

[Macrodosing Host]

I. This may exist. I don't know. Is there a judge simulator video game? Oh, I would love that because I'm big on. As I. I said week or two ago, I'm big on watching that Houston judges YouTube videos right now.

[Big T]

Would you be stern or would you be nice judge?

[Macrodosing Host]

It's a case by case basis. I mean if you're on your eighth bond violation, like. Yeah, I can't let you go. You clearly have no. No respect for the public. There is a judge simulator on Steam.

[Big T]

It seems you got to get that big T.

[Macrodosing Host]

Things were worse than ever in Banana Republic, a somber island country. While anarchists roamed the streets, corruption was running deeper due to economic crises and rising crime rates. Bearing these burdens were judges who tried to make things right with honesty.

[Arian]

The judges saved the day.

[Macrodosing Host]

So. So this is like only on computer, right? Steam.

[Arian]

Yeah. Steam is a. It's like a little. I don't know what exactly. How did you categorize it? Like it has a whole bunch of games.

[Big T]

No, yeah, I know, I know.

[Arian]

I got. That's all I play is computer games. I don't play console anymore.

[Macrodosing Host]

Could I do this on my laptop?

[Arian]

Not Mac, I don't think. I think it has to be PC. I could be wrong about that though, but I think maybe. I don't know.

[Macrodosing Host]

I feel like this game can't. Can't take up like crazy bandwidth or anything.

[Arian]

Depends on how big the streets of the Banana Republic.

[Macrodosing Host]

It looks like a very rudimentary game.

[Big T]

Well, so you start out as a judge in Banana Republic, but then can you get transferred? Can you get like dual citizenship?

[Macrodosing Host]

Seems like that might be the only place in the game.

[Big T]

Okay, so you. But you can turn Banana Republic into like the best country on earth, right? If one man is wise enough.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yes.

[Big T]

Please. We promise to download that if I can.

[Macrodosing Host]

Let me. Let me look into it.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

It's only a year old.

[Big T]

I would love to. Judge simulator would be a good one. I know they've got farmer simulators, right? They got trucker simulators.

[Macrodosing Host]

I did the farming sim for a little while. It's just too much work. I mean, you are running a farm.

[Big T]

Like playing a video game about being a farmer is. Dude, it may be harder than being a farmer, brother.

[Macrodosing Host]

It's. I mean, you have to be on top of your stuff. You know who's huge into that game is A.J. dylan.

[Big T]

Oh, is he really?

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah, he streams himself playing farming sim.

[Big T]

That's awesome.

[Macrodosing Host]

A lot.

[Big T]

Good for him. Yeah, yeah, they got. I know. They got train simulator. They got trucking simulator. What was that look, Aaron, you said he had.

[Arian]

What was the first one you said?

[Big T]

Train.

[Arian]

Train. Got you.

[Big T]

What'd you think I said?

[Arian]

I thought you said trans simulator.

[Big T]

Oh, no, they probably have one of those. I don't know, like construction simulator. Probably have that.

[Arian]

What about like, built. That's what you just said.

[Big T]

Yeah, like construct. Like you. Yeah. Build a bridge.

[Macrodosing Host]

We need to bring back roller coaster tycoon.

[Big T]

That was a Fun game.

[Macrodosing Host]

Has that been released in the last 10 years?

[Big T]

I'm sure that they got something like that out there.

[Macrodosing Host]

That might be my next one.

[Arian]

My. My all time favorite game, aside from Valorant, is Mike Tyson's Punch Up.

[Macrodosing Host]

Brandon's huge into that as well.

[Arian]

It's just such a flawless game. It's amazing.

[Macrodosing Host]

You should have told me that before the National Sports Collector Convention. They. There was one booth that had just a ton of eight by tens of Mike Tyson's punch out signed by Tyson.

[Arian]

That would be Little Mac.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Arian]

Yeah, Little Mac.

[Macrodosing Host]

It's where I got my Mike Tyson, Donald Trump signed photo.

[Arian]

So happy for you.

[Big T]

Do they have commuter simulator?

[Macrodosing Host]

It wouldn't shock me.

[Big T]

Like riding in. Riding in a taxi simulator.

[Macrodosing Host]

Listen. You're joking. I've seen some of the most mundane rudimentary games on there. If you just go Search simulator on the PlayStation Store, it'll show you every one they've got.

[Big T]

Do they have Umpire Simulator?

[Macrodosing Host]

No, but that would be. That'd be fun. Although. Well, I don't want to. I don't want to disparage that kid.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

But. But have you seen. Did I send you. I sent you some more videos.

[Big T]

Yeah, he's.

[Macrodosing Host]

He's ruined the. The umpiring community for me.

[Big T]

There's a kid that goes to ball games. I think he's a Cardinals fan, right?

[Macrodosing Host]

I'm not sure.

[Big T]

And he stands in the seats and he wears like full kit. Umpire.

[Macrodosing Host]

I don't even know where you can get that. It's like MLB umpire.

[Big T]

Yeah. He looks like an umpire and then he calls all the strikes, all the balls, and he does all the mannerisms that an umpire does, and they always show. He's always on TV when he's at the games. But an umpire simulator, I actually think that might be a fun game.

[Macrodosing Host]

I do enjoy their Tick Tock videos where it's like, how many of these pitches are strikes? Yeah, it gives you full speed, like pitches, and you got to call them. I do like that.

[Big T]

Yeah. That would kind of rock.

[Macrodosing Host]

So I feel like it would be a fun game.

[Big T]

There is a. So hold on.

[Arian]

You. You don't.

[Big T]

Okay, I'm looking it up.

[Arian]

You don't like this kid.

[Macrodosing Host]

I respect his passion and I love that he loves baseball. I do think the bit goes a little too far.

[Arian]

Hold on. They don't make him go sit in a seat. He just gets the.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's the thing. He's like in these expensive seats in the aisle, yelling after every pitch. Listen, if nobody around him was bothered Then by all means.

[Arian]

I don't know that it would. I don't know that would bother me. But yeah. Sit your ass down.

[Big T]

I. I did start. I found a video game. It's called the Ump show and you have an integrity bar.

[Macrodosing Host]

Love that.

[Big T]

Make accurate calls to earn integrity. If your integrity meter reaches 0, the game is over. Okay, let's do a speed minigame. I'm gonna do a speed minigame starting.

[Macrodosing Host]

I'm playing as well.

[Big T]

That looked like it was a strike. Wrong call. Low. That's a ball. Inside. Wrong. That was a ball. That's a strike. Correct call. Okay, I'm one for three. I think that was a strike. No, I'm bad. I'm a bad umpire.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's clearly a strike.

[Big T]

Nailed it. Yeah, no, my integrity meter is bad right now. It's really bad. Guys. I would be in off lump. I do know that they also have Referee magazine, which I would like to subscribe to. It's a monthly magazine where they just talk about all the different things that refs go through, like whistle reviews. Now I do think that being a behind the plate umpire in baseball is probably the hardest job that you can have.

[Arian]

Everybody's mad at you all the time.

[Big T]

Yeah. The pitches are coming in so fast that like, good luck trying to be as accurate as a robot. They expect you to be perfect. By the way. I'm just, I'm really good. I'm on a eight pitch streak right now.

[Macrodosing Host]

Me too. So I'm murdering this game.

[Big T]

I've gotten really good at umpire.

[Arian]

Where's this? Where's this game? I want to do this in the back.

[Big T]

Theumpshow.com yeah, theumpshow.com It's a. I. It looks like it's kind of a one trick pony where it's just a bunch of. There's really no variation to the game. I would like side quest challenges. Like you have to roll the ball up to the mound in between innings. Make it stop on the mound. You have to.

[Macrodosing Host]

Dude, it's going so fast now.

[Big T]

Yeah, it's so. Does it say the simulated miles per hour?

[Macrodosing Host]

I. It's going too fast for me to even check. You have like one second after the pitch to do it. I'm on a 15 streak. Correct.

[Big T]

See, I would like, I would like umpire simulator where you can also eject managers for arguing with you. You can like huddle up. If you think that your first base umpire screwed something up. You can appeal to him on a check swing. I want like a full, a full simulator for this I'm I'm 4 for 4 off rip football referee simulator would be fun too. If it's like 5 a high fidelity video game, you have to be like offsides, holding, gotta call holding, targeting, kick a guy out.

[Arian]

Oh they me on that one.

[Macrodosing Host]

I finally lost all my integrity once it started going crazy fast. It's a good game.

[Big T]

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[Arian]

Juvenile said on a podcast.

[Macrodosing Host]

I know who that is, but why don't you tell everyone else?

[Big T]

Wait, you don't know who Juvenile is.

[Macrodosing Host]

I clearly said I do.

[Arian]

You will. You will. When I say this, you will know he made the song. You would know it from like, Back that Ass Up. There's a big brown woman wants you back.

[Macrodosing Host]

I have heard that a time or two.

[Arian]

Oh, who was you playing with back?

[Macrodosing Host]

So this guy's definitely like 50.

[Big T]

What? What?

[Arian]

What? Yeah, people age, man. It happens. Keep waking up. It'll happen to you. But look, he's on a podcast and he said a Shaboozi. Cause you know, whiskey, all the boys at the bar. That's a. That's a remix from J. Quan. I said, jaquan, what's his name? I think it's J. Quan. So that was a remix from. From early 2000s. Hip hop song. And so Juvenile said, you should remix Back that Ass Up. And Shaboozi retweeted it, said, done. I'm looking out for that.

[Big T]

Yeah, that's gonna be awesome.

[Arian]

That's gonna slap.

[Big T]

Because, I mean, Back that Ass up is one of the best songs. I. I'd say one of the best songs of all time.

[Arian]

Classic.

[Big T]

You working with some ass. Yeah, you bad. Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

Does this guy have any other songs that I would know or that you would know?

[Big T]

Make him say that was Master P. Wasn't juvenile in that, was he? I might be wrong. They were all they're no limit family.

[Arian]

I don't know that you would know. He. He was like the start of the. The. The. The Hot Boys. So Lil Wayne. That's where Lil Wayne got his first start. So him, BG Turk, they started the.

[Big T]

Hot Boys was many fresh.

[Arian]

I don't know.

[Big T]

Or Burger.

[Arian]

He was around. He was their producer.

[Big T]

And yeah, many front. But I don't think he was ever in the Hot Boys. Right.

[Macrodosing Host]

Oh, set it off. I've heard.

[Arian]

You heard. Set it off.

[Macrodosing Host]

Okay, so.

[Arian]

Okay, yeah.

[Big T]

Slow motion for me.

[Arian]

One of the Goats, man. New Orleans legend.

[Big T]

They also. That was a great era in album covers.

[Arian]

That Cash money.

[Big T]

The Cash Money records. Yeah.

[Arian]

Everything's all they. That. That was. That was like my first introduction to, I guess, the vernacular of. Of black folks being commercialized when. When Bling Bling came out and they. And they. They added it like after some years, of course. But they added that to it. It's a real term now. It's like a. It's recognized as a real word.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

Which is just dope.

[Big T]

Big T, you also sent over a video with Dababy. I did, baby. Dababy. No context from Big T got added to Today's list of things to talk about.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah, well, you've got to just watch it.

[Big T]

What's the context?

[Macrodosing Host]

Have you not seen it?

[Big T]

I'm. I'm watching the video right now.

[Macrodosing Host]

Oh, watch it.

[Arian]

Take your time. Your time. Watch the. Watch the whole thing. You got to watch the whole thing.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Macrodosing Host]

You can fast forward to probably halfway through.

[Big T]

Yeah, I was going to. So it appears to be some sort of a reenactment of the Ukrainian lady on the train that got stabbed in the throat.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's correct.

[Big T]

And Dababy is playing the guy that stabbed her in the throat.

[Macrodosing Host]

No, he is a bystander.

[Big T]

He's a bystander. Okay, there's somebody else. Oh, I see now. Big. Now Dababy is following the assailant out of the train.

[Macrodosing Host]

Oh, did you miss where he. He stopped him. You must have fast forwarded too far.

[Big T]

Oh, it just. He's just. Oh, I got it. Okay. I thought it was a freeze frame in midair. No, Dababy reached out, grabbed him by the hand. Stopped the assault.

[Macrodosing Host]

Correct.

[Big T]

Walked him off the train. The young lady went home, and then they all hung out together afterwards. Maybe broke bread.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Interesting.

[Macrodosing Host]

It's giving. The Kendall Jenner Pepsi commercial.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Macrodosing Host]

I hate that I just said it's.

[Big T]

Giving, but whatever this is, this is crazy to baby. And also, somebody point out in the. In the comments that when he reaches out and grabs the baby's hand, he made sure to use the wrist that had his really nice watch on it that got into the frame.

[Macrodosing Host]

Well, if you got to use one of them.

[Big T]

Yeah. I mean, if you're thinking about doing any sort of video about any sort of current event, just don't do that. That thing.

[Arian]

Well, okay, look, I. I don't think it was executed the best, but if you listen to the words in the song.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

What he. What he was saying is like, you can't. The song's about, like, yo, you can't. You can't save everybody. Some people are irredeemable. Like, you can't save everybody. He's saying I might be one of those people that you just can't say and so don't. I mean, I don't know about using this event. Like, it's not very. It's not executed very well, but the song itself is. I thought. Had a good message in it, but. Yeah. Just not executed very well.

[Macrodosing Host]

Is that a good message, though?

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

I don't know that I disagree with it. Why is it good?

[Arian]

Well, when you say good, what do you mean?

[Macrodosing Host]

Like, you're saying it's a good message. Like, some people are beyond redemption. Like, why is that good?

[Arian]

Well, so when you say good, I think we're using it in a different context. I don't mean good like good versus evil. I mean good like he's artistically expressing how he feels that he can't be saved and he's a troubled soul. So it's like a. It's a good artistic expression of him struggling with his personal issues.

[Macrodosing Host]

Okay, but you wouldn't say that's a message that, like, is good to distribute necessarily.

[Arian]

That's absolutely. It's a great message to distribute.

[Macrodosing Host]

Well, see, that's where. That's where I'm confused. Like, I get you saying, like, he feels this. He's expressing it. I understand, but you think the message is, like. Is positive.

[Arian]

No, I don't think it's positive. I think it's a. I think it's a message.

[Macrodosing Host]

Okay.

[Arian]

I don't. I don't. I don't think art should only have a net positive emotional reaction.

[Macrodosing Host]

No, I don't. I didn't say that. But it just sounded to me like you thought. When you said a good message, that sounded to me like you think it's, like, a good thing.

[Arian]

That. I think it's good that he's not.

[Macrodosing Host]

Savable or that he is, like. Yeah. Purporting that, I guess.

[Arian]

No, I think it's good that he. He can express it, like.

[Macrodosing Host]

Okay.

[Arian]

I think. I think. I think that's what art is, though. I think. I think art should be your raw emotions. DMX had this interview one time.

[Big T]

He said.

[Arian]

He said. He was like. He's like, what? You know what? If you don't want to make a song about being happy, you know, sometimes I. Happy. Sometimes I want to throw on a song I'm gonna feel like. So that's what I'm gonna do. Throwing a song. I don't feel like. Yeah. Dmx. Hell, yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah, he's right.

[Arian]

Sometimes you don't feel like that. That's what art is, man.

[Big T]

I've realized that a lot of misunderstandings in America come from not having a full comprehension of somebody else's lore that goes into it. Right.

[Macrodosing Host]

Elaborate.

[Big T]

So the other, like, lore. Yeah, Like. Like why somebody is producing this type of song, why somebody's producing this type of art. You don't have, like, a full picture. The example that I'll give was, I was watching this, like, two weeks ago. It was Bill O'Reilly versus ludicrous because they had beef for A long time now. I think they're on good terms. They might be. I don't know if they've had a falling out since then, but they came to an understanding. Bill O'Reilly would attack ludicrous for his rap lyrics and. And Ludicrous would reply to Bill O'Reilly in more songs that he would make and then add in little jabs of Bill O'Reilly on his own platform, which were his albums at the time. And Bill O'Reilly had a fundamental misunderstanding of where Ludicrous was coming from. When he was either rapping about something violent or rapping about women, he did not understand the artistic expression that Ludicrous was trying to convey. He wasn't like, Ludo wasn't out there advocating for gang violence and gun violence. He was talking about gang violence and gun violence. And he didn't understand it until Ludo was like, hey, you also, Bill O'Reilly. Like, you wrote some things in the past that were about, like, he was an author beforehand, like a fiction author that wrote violent novels. And it's like, what's the difference between writing violent lyrics and then writing a story with a violent character in it now? Yeah, some. Some artists also, like, live their lyrics, which we've seen a few times in very recent memory, but that doesn't mean that that's what they're talking about. They could just be talking about characters that they're coming up with, or they could be talking about things that have happened that they've heard about and they're expressing it. And then once Bill O'Reilly kind of found out where Ludacris was coming from, wasn't a bad guy, then they kind of became copacetic.

[Macrodosing Host]

In 2002, as ludicrous was becoming one of the most popular rappers in music. The future. Too fast, Too Furious actor. That's hilarious moniker for.

[Big T]

Yep.

[Macrodosing Host]

Appeared in Pepsi promotions. O'Reilly was outraged by the decision, urging his viewers to boycott the soda company if they didn't pull the ads. I'm calling for all responsible Americans to fight back and punish.

[Arian]

First cancel culture.

[Macrodosing Host]

Bill Riley for using a man who degrades women who encourages substance abuse and does all the things that hurt, particularly the poor in our society. The pundits comments Work the beverage company, stop the ads and drop Ludicrous, citing consumer complaints about his profane and violent lyrics. The beef between O'Reilly and Luda continued in 2004 when in his hit song Number One Spot, the performer referenced a sexual harassment lawsuit against the host. Rapping, respected, highly high Mr. O'Reilly. Hope all is well. Kiss the plaintiff and the wifey.

[Arian]

I had no idea that was to Bill.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah. Holy.

[Arian]

I had no idea about this.

[Big T]

I think there's another lyric. Shout out to Bill O'Reilly. I'm gonna throw you a curve. You mad? Cause I'm a thief and got away with words.

[Macrodosing Host]

I love your rap voice.

[Big T]

No, that's my. That's my Ludo voice.

[Macrodosing Host]

The same. No, because it's the same for every rapper.

[Big T]

No, it's.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yes.

[Big T]

No, it's not.

[Macrodosing Host]

You have a very specific cadence and tone that's very.

[Arian]

It's very 1980.

[Big T]

That was ludicrous right there. Oh, no, about right there. Yeah. That's different from my Bone Thugs.

[Macrodosing Host]

I'm telling you, they're all the same. They may sound different in your head.

[Big T]

7Amokin pneumonia, caffeine and green and nicotine. Good start to the day Hin caffeine, green, nicotine, that's all you need. Shout out. I think that was so unaware about this beef. Yeah.

[Arian]

Also the hilarity of all rappers in that era. You pick Luda, one of the more docile lyrically.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

With content. And you pick him to fuck with.

[Big T]

Well, that's hilarious. Bill O'Reilly, he did that a few times. He was like a serial rapper. Beef starter. He had a beef with Luda. He had a beef with Camron who went on a show and debated him. That was where the you mad came.

[Arian]

Say you mad.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

You mad.

[Big T]

Yeah. Cameron kind of got him on that one. And then I think, didn't he also have a beef with Common?

[Arian]

There's no way. Not over rap lyrics.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

I think Common. Common is like a peaceful bring the world together.

[Big T]

I'm Pretty sure Bill O'Reilly had a beef with Common.

[Arian]

That, that, that means it's just. It's deeper than. It's deeper than rap with him. If you you picking on ludicrous at Cameron, you got a point. Some wild to say Cameron and Common, you don't listen.

[Macrodosing Host]

There is a 10 minute video on YouTube between Jon Stewart and Bill O'Reilly. The title is Bill O'Reilly and Jon Stewart argue over rapper Common. I obviously I'd have to go watch.

[Big T]

It but I'm going to predict that that that is not a video that's going to make you smarter. He was Common. I think Common. Let's see if I can remember my. My Obama era scandals correctly. I think in his first term, none.

[Arian]

Bigger than 10 soup.

[Big T]

Obama invited Common to the White House and Bill O'Reilly hated it. And said that he was having a hip hop barbecue at the White House. And this, this is a man who degrades women with his lyrics. I think that's what it was. But yeah, you be, you'd be hard pressed to find a rapper who's more, I don't want to say non degrading, non degrading than Common Chance the rapper also probably a guy that you, you would not put in that bucket.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah, you are correct. It was about Obama inviting him to the White House. In an appearance on Fox News, Comedy Central's Jon Stewart sparred with fox host Bill O'Reilly over the recent invitation of rapper comment to the White House and accused the conservative leading cable network of being a, quote, selective outrage machine that pettifogs only when it suits the narrative that suits them. The Obama administration came under fire from the right last week after inviting Common to take part in a poetry reading at the White House. Conservatives took issue with the invitation because Common, a Grammy Award winning hip hop artist, has in some of his lyrics defended Black Panther member and convicted cop killer Assata Shakur.

[Big T]

Were okay.

[Arian]

Oh, beautiful song, by the way.

[Big T]

So it was more about the defense of one individual.

[Macrodosing Host]

O'Reilly argued that the White House should not be issuing invitations to people who were, quote, celebrating a cop killer.

[Arian]

Yeah, I remember this now, but I.

[Big T]

I'm gonna, I'm not, I'm not familiar with that song. I'm gonna, I'm gonna base this speculate that he was bringing light to what he thought was an unjust conviction.

[Arian]

Yes. And how, if I'm remembering it correctly, Assata Shakur was a part of the Black Panthers and they had it out with the police. And the story goes, and I'm paraphrasing, but the, but the, but the police used to try to take the Black Panthers out. And so they started arming themselves and they started shooting back. And so when they shot back on this, there's like a turnpike in New Jersey. They, they killed a cop and then they fled. I think she's in Cuba right now. She's still alive. But he was bringing light to that situation. So that's you. You hear that a lot. I remember Tommy Lauren was debating, who was it? Charlemagne. And a lot of right wingers think that the Black Panther Party was a terrorist organization, which is hilarious by all accounts. But. So I think that's, that was the origins of that. But the song, I don't, I don't remember what it's called. I was on the last song of his album, Like Water for Chocolate. Let me. Let me look it up real quick. Dope song.

[Big T]

Yeah. I just remember the hip hop barbecue that he had.

[Arian]

Oh, it's. No, the second to Last song, number 15, is called a Song for Asada.

[Big T]

I wonder if they ever squashed that beef. I. I think with Bill O'Reilly, he saw that he was getting some numbers, he was getting traction with the beef that he had with Luda, and so he was. He was probably just looking for any rapper to start a beef with now.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Maybe also, Big T in the news that you sent over, one of the best heists that I've seen in recent memory.

[Macrodosing Host]

I am all for law and order, but if you commit a crime nonviolently. That is so funny and. Or cool sometimes, you deserve to get away with it.

[Big T]

Okay. All right, I'll hear you out. So. So what happened was this at Disney World.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah. So this guy. So Disney Springs, which is like the. The shopping area. Disney World, has like a lagoon, I guess, in the middle of it.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Macrodosing Host]

This guy was wearing a full scuba suit, swam up to a restaurant that's on the water.

[Big T]

It's called the Paddlefish Restaurant.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah. And got up. You can't see, he's in full scuba goggles, the whole deal. He spray paints all the security cameras black and took, I think they said, 20 grand and then dove back into the water and got away.

[Arian]

1,000% inside job, you think? Oh, no question.

[Guest]

This is a restaurant.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Arian]

To be able to know that there's a route in there to get in and out aquatically.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

And then to have the wherewithal to know where all the security cameras are is a thousand percent. An employee or ex employee or something. Something to do with the. With used to have been working there.

[Big T]

There's a couple things that. That make me agree with you, Arian. He knew where they counted the money, and he knew when they counted the money. And so he went up. It was after the restaurant was closed, and he had a scuba gear, swam up, went to the manager's office, told everybody get in the corner. Did not have a weapon or did not produce a weapon, told everyone to get into the corner, and then he stole the money, got back in the water, swam away. Also, this restaurant that he swam up to is a replica steamboat that he swam up to. Is that a robbery? If you just go in. If you just walk in and you're like, hey, give me all that money.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yes. Someone got charged with armed robbery even though they didn't have a gun because they slid over a note that Said I have a gun.

[Big T]

I. I agree with that.

[Macrodosing Host]

That was considered armed robbery.

[Big T]

But if you don't, I think the.

[Macrodosing Host]

The standard is, like, if you make a reasonable person assume that you are robbing it, like, you can be charged with rob.

[Big T]

Okay. So if you come in after hours and you're just like, give me all the money that you're counting right now.

[Macrodosing Host]

Correct.

[Big T]

Then that that counts.

[Macrodosing Host]

Also. I did miss that he tied up a couple of employees. That changes things slightly.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Macrodosing Host]

However, still kind of funny.

[Big T]

It's the fact that it was at Disney World, too.

[Guest]

Yes.

[Big T]

Objectively, the happiest place on earth.

[Arian]

I think they're all in on it. Hey.

[Guest]

The fact he had to swim there.

[Arian]

Let me slide by. I'll throw you five racks.

[Big T]

Oh, you think that, like the people that were in the store that were tied in the restaurant. Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

Interesting.

[Big T]

That'd be a great way to rob a bank. Not that anyone should also.

[Macrodosing Host]

Must not.

[Arian]

Bank robber movie.

[Big T]

Best bank robbery movie.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I mean, there's.

[Arian]

I love heist movies. This is some. This is one of my favorite genres.

[Big T]

I want to be in a heist one day.

[Arian]

That's. I don't FBI.

[Macrodosing Host]

I don't know that you do.

[Big T]

How exhilarating would it be? Heist simulator.

[Arian]

Okay, now you're talking.

[Macrodosing Host]

Now that could be much more.

[Arian]

Okay, so you have to gather the crew. This is what I love about heist movies.

[Big T]

Right?

[Arian]

You got to have your intel guy, your. Your communications guy. You have to have the lock picking guy, right? You have the guy that. You have to have the. With the shits guy who's willing to go in there and, you know, the. The strong arm it. To muscle it. What, though? You gotta have a getaway driver.

[Big T]

Mm.

[Arian]

Right?

[Big T]

You have to.

[Arian]

You have to. You have to corral these dudes and you have to execute. That might be one of the fun of games. I'm with that.

[Big T]

Yeah. Put your crew together. You have to have a van and your comms guys in the van with.

[Arian]

A headset, the empty keyboard, tapping into the security.

[Big T]

He's so fast.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

Breaking into the mainframe.

[Arian]

The way they type all them buttons. How many times as a kid did you pretend you was doing that? Pretend you was.

[Macrodosing Host]

By the way, the answer to best heist movie. You need to answer it because there's a clear cut answer.

[Arian]

Hold on, hold on. Let's, let's.

[Macrodosing Host]

And it's not.

[Big T]

It's.

[Macrodosing Host]

I'll give you a hint, and then it's not one that you're expecting.

[Big T]

I agree. Ocean's Eleven.

[Macrodosing Host]

No. I've never seen those.

[Big T]

What you got to watch O Big T. You got. You have to watch. You surprise me more and more.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's that. Be that as it may. That's not. That's not it.

[Big T]

That's. But you've never seen it.

[Arian]

That.

[Big T]

You could make an argument. That's the best. One of the best heist movies of all time. I haven't seen the original, but the. The remake was incredible. I think it's. It might be Jeff D. Lo's favorite movie. The Town is pretty good.

[Guest]

The one with the old guys but I don't know the name of it.

[Big T]

The old guys? What are these old guys?

[Guest]

They're like.

[Arian]

I'd need you to hold on.

[Big T]

Let me find Wild Hogs.

[Guest]

No. It's like they're just like older men and they're like robbing a bank.

[Macrodosing Host]

While you break that up.

[Big T]

Point Break is up there.

[Macrodosing Host]

The best heist movie ever made is Disney's National Treasure.

[Big T]

That's an adventure movie.

[Macrodosing Host]

It's a heist.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

They steal something far more difficult to steal than money.

[Big T]

It's different. That's a.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's a heist movie.

[Big T]

It's a historical adventure.

[Macrodosing Host]

Sure. Wrapped up in a heist.

[Big T]

Okay. All right. Yeah. I mean, they pretend to kidnap the President.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's National Treasure too.

[Arian]

Wait. No. This wouldn't be a heist.

[Macrodosing Host]

Why not? Has all the yellows.

[Arian]

Because they weren't trying to steal it. They were trying to. They were trying to. 1. His whole goal was to clear his family's name.

[Macrodosing Host]

Sure.

[Arian]

And to clear your family's name, you had to prove that the treasure was real. Okay. The goal of a heist is to. Is to heist. To hijack a specific thing. That was never their goal. Their goal was to reveal it.

[Macrodosing Host]

But to do so. What did they have to do? Had to go steal it.

[Arian]

No, they didn't steal it.

[Macrodosing Host]

The Declaration of Independence. They absolutely did.

[Big T]

He does say I'm going to steal.

[Macrodosing Host]

That was the most famous line in the movie.

[Arian]

But their goal wasn't to steal the Declaration of Independence. That was a. That was a.

[Macrodosing Host]

It was in furtherance of another goal. But it was their goal.

[Arian]

But the goal was never to steal anything.

[Macrodosing Host]

And yet they stole it.

[Arian]

That's not a heist.

[Macrodosing Host]

It's a heist reach. They have the FBI going after him.

[Big T]

I don't think it's a classic. It's not a classic heist.

[Macrodosing Host]

But it's a twist on a heist.

[Big T]

It is. It's a play on a heist.

[Arian]

Great movie. Another great one is Inside man with Denzel. Yep, that's a great one.

[Guest]

The one I was thinking of is called Going In Style. It's with Morgan Freeman, Michael Kane, and Alan Arin. It's more of like a comedy, but it's very funny.

[Big T]

It's a. It's like a whimsical comedy about old guys that used to be crim. Criminals that get together for one. One last job.

[Guest]

Yes.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Arian]

Yeah, here's a. Here's. Here's another one that is kind of a heist. Inception.

[Big T]

I don't know that you can make the argument with a straight face that National Treasure is not a heist and Inception is.

[Arian]

Okay, okay. You're trying to steal an original thought from a man by implanting another one inside him.

[Macrodosing Host]

This is infinitely more tenuous.

[Big T]

It's less heist.

[Arian]

You try to. You got. You have to. You have to take. You're taking his original feeling about his father from him. That's a heist. I honestly don't even remember hijacking his. His entire thought process. That is. Yes, absolutely, there's a heist.

[Big T]

I understand what you're saying, but the fact that you. You poo pooed Big T. In order.

[Macrodosing Host]

To hold that opinion, you must also hold the opinion that National Treasure is correct.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

Nah, because you're not taking anything.

[Macrodosing Host]

They took the Declaration of Independence, bro.

[Arian]

They're go. Listen, maybe. Maybe I'm fuck it up because I don't know the definition of a heist. I'm gonna look it up and I.

[Macrodosing Host]

Completely understand what you're saying. You're saying they did that in furtherance of something else.

[Arian]

A heist is a planned and usually daring robbery or theft, often valuables from a secure place like a bank or museum. But it could also refer to that.

[Macrodosing Host]

You could not write a better definition for what they do in that movie.

[Arian]

They do that. No, that's not their goal, though.

[Macrodosing Host]

But that's. Read it again. Read it again. Maybe, Maybe. Maybe I'm wrong. Read it again.

[Arian]

No, no, you. You are wrong.

[Macrodosing Host]

Not. Not based on the definition you just read.

[Arian]

An act of stealing or breaking into a place to steal.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yes.

[Arian]

That's not. That's not their goal.

[Macrodosing Host]

It's what they do.

[Arian]

No. So, okay, so any. Anytime they.

[Macrodosing Host]

They illegally gain entry into a party at the National Archives in order to go steal the Declaration of Independence, a secure location, such as a bank or museum. I believe you said.

[Arian]

That wasn't their goal, though.

[Big T]

What are we doing? Yeah, come on. Come on, Aryan.

[Arian]

No, I can't give it to you.

[Big T]

You're being stubborn.

[Macrodosing Host]

I didn't plan on feeling strongly about this, but now I do.

[Big T]

Now you're being stubborn, Aran.

[Arian]

No, I can't. I can't. I can't let it fly.

[Big T]

I know that look, Aaron, you're being.

[Macrodosing Host]

Literally no big definition.

[Arian]

I don't think so.

[Macrodosing Host]

You're saying because they had a goal beyond that.

[Big T]

He's not going to agree with you no matter what you say.

[Macrodosing Host]

But. But he's wrong.

[Arian]

I disagree.

[Macrodosing Host]

Now this is all I care about. I Is. Is defining National Treasure as a heist.

[Big T]

I. I got two other heist films that I think are better than National Treasure. In addition to the ones that I've said.

[Macrodosing Host]

You can name them. You'll be incorrect.

[Big T]

Ocean's Eleven is. Is better.

[Macrodosing Host]

It can't be. I haven't seen it.

[Big T]

I think the Town is better.

[Macrodosing Host]

I haven't seen that either.

[Arian]

So it can't be Solipsism.

[Big T]

I would say that Heat is better. Pacino. De Niro.

[Arian]

Pacino, Yeah. I haven't seen that. I've heard about that one, though.

[Big T]

Really good heist movie. And then I would say Hell or High Water. Have you seen that?

[Macrodosing Host]

None of these, brother.

[Big T]

Hell or High Water has, I think, the most underrated actor in modern history in it. Ben Foster. Ben Foster.

[Macrodosing Host]

Is he Gandhi?

[Big T]

I don't know. He. If he was Gandhi, I would. I would watch him play Gandhi.

[Macrodosing Host]

Ben Kingsley.

[Big T]

Ben Kingsley. Okay.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

No, this was. It was Ben Foster. He was also in. He was in that movie with Justin Timberlake. Alpha dog. Did you ever see that?

[Macrodosing Host]

Never heard of it.

[Big T]

Kidnapping movie based on true story. Also was the best actor in that. By far.

[Macrodosing Host]

More of a trolls 2 guy with JT.

[Big T]

Gotcha.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's a joke, by the way.

[Big T]

Yeah, I think. I think I provided you with a list that are better. But I do enjoy National Treasure.

[Arian]

Great movie. It's not a heist movie, but big T. You.

[Big T]

You have to watch Ocean's Eleven. I've given you so many great movies that you would enjoy. I don't think you've seen a single one of them.

[Macrodosing Host]

Incorrect. I watched.

[Big T]

Training Day.

[Macrodosing Host]

No. Alabama Court.

[Big T]

My cousin Vinnie.

[Macrodosing Host]

Correct. Enjoyed it.

[Big T]

Okay. There you go.

[Macrodosing Host]

Liked it a lot.

[Big T]

This is. These are movies that I would say you'll enjoy.

[Macrodosing Host]

I'm not a George Clooney going on a mission type guy.

[Big T]

You might like this, though. It's fast paced. It's in Vegas. It's interesting. A lot of great actors in it.

[Macrodosing Host]

I am. It's possible. I'll check it out.

[Big T]

You will. I promise you that you will enjoy Ocean's Eleven.

[Arian]

It is the best heist movie legitimate. Heisman.

[Macrodosing Host]

What is the plot? Other than they're going on a heist? What is the purpose?

[Big T]

They're, they're planning a heist in Las Vegas.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's it. No, no apparent reason.

[Big T]

There's layers to it. Andy Garcia owns a casino. Andy Garcia is dating George Clooney's ex wife who goes by the name of Julie Roberts in real life.

[Macrodosing Host]

Maybe. I'll check it out.

[Big T]

Incredible cast.

[Macrodosing Host]

I'll let you know.

[Big T]

If you're looking at star power in a cast. I think that's, that's got to be up there too.

[Arian]

Don Cheadle's in that mov.

[Macrodosing Host]

Don Cheadle, I would actually say. And this is just me thinking off the top of my head, so I, I, I'd have to do some reflection and think about it. I think the more, quote, structure star studded a cast of a film is, the less likely I am to enjoy it sometimes.

[Big T]

You're right about that, I think.

[Macrodosing Host]

I don't like big actors in, in that, that kind. Like, I, this is gonna sound weird. I've never understood the concept of having a favorite actor. They're all the same to me. It's dependent on what the movie is.

[Big T]

Well, if you, yeah, if you enjoy somebody's performances.

[Macrodosing Host]

I've never noticed one actor to be better than another.

[Big T]

What, there's no actor that, you're like that person. I've seen them in three films and I really enjoyed their monumentally bad take.

[Macrodosing Host]

I've.

[Big T]

All actors are the same.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah. I don't really think Nicholas Cage and.

[Arian]

Tom Hanks are the same caliber actor too.

[Macrodosing Host]

So like they do different movies. I don't, it's, it's about the movie to me.

[Big T]

Now maybe don't like what you're implying about Nicholas Cage here. That seemed targeted because you, you're still disagreeing with this national treasure.

[Arian]

I was trying, I was trying to find a middle of the ring actor who is like not known for his acting, but more known for his roles. Even like a Keanu Reeves. Right. There's a, there's a, there's a, a thousand football fields difference between Keanu Reeves acting and Tom Hanks acting. Like this.

[Big T]

Just different brother.

[Arian]

Insane.

[Macrodosing Host]

But they do radically different things.

[Big T]

Okay, what about this Jason Statham, Matt Damon, who's the better actor?

[Macrodosing Host]

I don't know that I've ever really seen anything Jason Statham is in. So I can't.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Macrodosing Host]

But I, I don't know if you were to venture a guess, probably Matt Damon. But I also think there's an element of, you do one or two really good movies, you become, you know, a star in Hollywood or whatever and then you're given better opportunities.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

Than some other people who might get like Jason Statham is pigeonholed into shitty action movies. Right. So that's all he's gonna do.

[Big T]

Right.

[Macrodosing Host]

Whereas Matt Damon now is a, is a star, so he gets top of the line movies.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

I think it's all dependent on the movie.

[Big T]

You get presented better opportunities for sure.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

But yeah, there's, there's different caliber actors.

[Macrodosing Host]

I understand that. It just doesn't usually make a difference to me.

[Big T]

Okay, what's your all time favorite movie?

[Macrodosing Host]

Probably Shawshank.

[Big T]

Okay. Now that, that has some heavy hitters.

[Macrodosing Host]

Sure. Do you think there, how many actors do you think could be in the role of Tim Robbins? And the movie doesn't change in quality? I think it's quite a few.

[Arian]

You know what it is? I don't think you. I don't, I don't mean to disrespectfully, but I don't think you have a knack or a, a love for the arts like that. So like when you.

[Macrodosing Host]

I agree, for the most part.

[Arian]

Yeah. So.

[Big T]

Yeah. So when we were talking about music, Right.

[Arian]

Like, like playing a guitar gives you, or playing a piano gives you a different listening experience.

[Big T]

When you're listening to music, like, you.

[Arian]

Start to develop an appreciation for the art of it, not necessarily the product of it. I think you like the product. You don't like the art of it.

[Macrodosing Host]

For the most part, I would agree.

[Arian]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Big T]

I also think that Big T is just too authentic of a guy for him to really identify with somebody that's good at playing somebody that they're not. No, because what you see is what you get with Big T. He's like, why is this guy. Why are you paying money? Why? Paying your hard earned money to go watch a man lie to you for two hours.

[Macrodosing Host]

You could not sound less like me. But no, I just, I, I care about the like, if, if the movie's good, there is no actor that I could go watch a movie and I would be like, even if I didn't like the movie that much, I enjoyed watching that actor. Does that make sense?

[Big T]

Yeah, I mean, story has a lot to do with.

[Macrodosing Host]

For instance, the Braves are terrible. I paid good money to go watch the Braves when they were in Chicago a couple weeks ago because they still Have Ronald Acuna and Matt Olson and these awesome baseball players that I really enjoy. Even though the team sucks. I. There is no actor that would make me feel that way.

[Big T]

Yeah, I think that's a fair take. Like, if. If Tom Hanks in a movie and everyone's like, this movie sucks, then, yeah, I probably won't go see it. Just movie. I enjoy time, but when Captain Phillips comes out, I'm like, yeah, I want to go watch a great story with a guy that is at the peak of his craft.

[Arian]

Like. Like a movie that was kind of ass. But the acting from him was amazing. It was like Book of Eli. Like, Denzel killed that role, but the movie was kind of. Have you ever. Big T. Have you ever gone to see, like, a Broadway play couple?

[Big T]

You didn't.

[Arian]

Did you enjoy the acting in it or.

[Big T]

Or you were just there for the story?

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah, yeah. Just. Just the story. I don't think the acting.

[Arian]

Yeah, I think that's what it is. I don't think you, like. I don't think you take a liking to the arts of it. I grew up in, like. I wrote poetry, loved poetry. That turned into me being like, being into playwriting, and I acted in plays as a kid. And so it's like, like knowing and understanding that side of the craft was fascinating to me. And you.

[Big T]

There's a.

[Arian]

A very big difference between Tom Hanks and.

[Macrodosing Host]

And again, I understand that. I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying it doesn't make. And although I kind of contradicted a minute ago with what I said about the Braves, I think I've said kind of the same thing about sp. I like the people who love professional sports because the players are so much better. That doesn't make a ton of difference to me. I would rather just watch Tennessee Play regardless of how much better or worse the players are than a professional.

[Arian]

Yeah, I think I pinned it. You like the product, not the.

[Big T]

Not the.

[Arian]

The art of it.

[Big T]

What are some great performances by great actors in dog shit movies? I think you could probably go down the list of anything Philip Seymour Hoffman was in. He was in a lot of good films, too. Philip Seymour Hoffman and John C. Reilly have probably done a lot of, like, they were great actors that did great movies, but they probably also did their fair share of just money making bad films.

[Arian]

I don't remember how good the movie was, but to me, this is how dope the role was. It might have been a good movie, but I just remember Leonardo DiCaprio and what's eating good with grape.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

Unbelievable performance in that.

[Macrodosing Host]

I'm asking Chad GPT about the best performances in bad movies.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Macrodosing Host]

Michael Fassbender in Assassin's Creed.

[Big T]

All right.

[Macrodosing Host]

Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean. Sequels.

[Arian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

Ian. Ian McKellen in the Hobbit trilogy.

[Arian]

I don't think they bad movies.

[Macrodosing Host]

Nicholas Cage and Ghost Rider.

[Big T]

Okay. The Talking Car.

[Macrodosing Host]

Jared Leto in the House of Gucci. James McAvoy. And split. I thought Split was a good movie.

[Big T]

I never saw that one.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's the M. Night Shyamalan movie where it turns out it's a prequel to Mr. Glass. Or what's the movie that has Mr. Glass in it from the 90s? Samuel L. Jackson. I forget. But that's the big reveal at the end of the movie.

[Guest]

It's the multiple personalities, right?

[Big T]

Yes.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Big T]

We got a movie coming out that.

[Arian]

Was a bad movie. I don't think it was that bad.

[Macrodosing Host]

I thought it was good.

[Big T]

We got a movie coming out soon. How to Rob a Bank. Next year, a heist film with John C. Reilly, Christian Slater, Zoe legend Pete Davidson. I'm interested. You have my attention. I watch Imagine Entertainment. Yeah. Nothing like a good heist. The planning, the execution, the tropes. I do enjoy.

[Arian]

A bad, good one was. There was a new one that came out, I think, like last year with Kevin Hart. He had a heist movie on Netflix that was a dope one.

[Big T]

What was it called? O. Kevin Hart has done more movies than anybody like Kevin Hart. Credit to him. He is striking while the iron is hot. He's in every commercial, every movie.

[Arian]

Black, black. Adam Sandler.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

He's at the Tennessee Georgia game. Kevin Hart was his son, I think is a track recruit.

[Big T]

Oh, crazy lift.

[Arian]

The movie's called Lyft on Netflix. I liked it. It was dope.

[Big T]

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[Macrodosing Host]

I already did because I knew we had the AD coming up and I looked at a couple. I've got a deal that I don't even think you'll believe.

[Big T]

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[Big T]

That's going to be a good one to go to. Tulane is great. They've got their eyes on the College Football Playoff.

[Macrodosing Host]

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[Big T]

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[Macrodosing Host]

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[Macrodosing Host]

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[Big T]

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[Arian]

Reincarnated?

[Macrodosing Host]

If I say no, are you going to make me do it anyway?

[Big T]

Yep. Sure will.

[Macrodosing Host]

And the answer doesn't particularly matter, does it?

[Big T]

Well, Big T, you also dropped this one in the group chat. Kind of.

[Macrodosing Host]

I mean, I was. I was joking. I understand that we're going to do the topic of the episode. I was just trying to keep it.

[Big T]

Light, keep it, like, don't worry about it.

[Macrodosing Host]

Me, I guess, keeping it fresh.

[Arian]

Me. Good game.

[Big T]

I got really into this topic because there. There was something that we came across that stood out. You think of reincarnation as being something that Is like spiritual. Hard to prove, hard to really measure in any, any given way, because it's very much tied into certain religions and it's tied into different cultures and you don't really have too much that studies it. I did not know that the University of Virginia had an entire department that was dedicated towards researching perceptual studies like reincarnation woke like actual doctors and clinical psychologists and people that have gone to school for their entire lives. Scientists that are studying reincarnation, pretty crazy. So there was a guy that worked at UVA, his name was Dr. Ian Stevenson, and he was a professor for 50 years and his focus was on reincarnation. And he even convinced the University of Virginia, their School of Medicine, to let him start the Division of Perceptual Studies, or DOPS is what they call it. And he founded the Society for scientific exploration in 1982. He passed away in 2002. He was only 40 or, sorry, not. That's not the case. He passed away in 2007. And the mantle was taken up by a guy by the name of Dr. Jim Tucker, who was the head of the Department of public perception until January 1, 2025. And they have. They're like the leading department that has studied reincarnation. And they've interviewed thousands of usually children and found evidence that there might be something to reincarnation. Pretty crazy stuff. So this guy, Dr. Jim Tucker, he has said that you usually, if a child is going to start speaking about being reincarnated usually happens between the age of like 2 and 6 years old. And those memories that they have fade away as they grow older. But he's interviewed thousands of kids and there are a few cases that make you think like, holy shit, what's going on here? So there was a kid down in Louisiana, and when he was two years old, he was screaming in his. In his bed. And I don't know if it was a crib or what his sleeping arrangement was, but he would have night terrors. And that's like a pretty common thing for a lot of the kids that are allegedly the next life of somebody that's passed away, they get night terrors at a very early age. And his parents went in and they were like, what's going on? And the kid kept saying, like, plane crash, little man can't escape. Fire, plane crash. The little man can't escape. And his parents were not like hippies. They weren't like, reincarnation believe. They were like, there's a Christian family. And the parents looked at each other like, what is Our child saying to us. The kid then went on to, like, he would have these recurring nightmares. And they asked him, like, who else is. Who else is there with you? And the kid's name was James. And the kid gave a specific name. I'm gonna try to pull this up right now. But it was not. Not like a. Not an uncommon name. I think the last name was, like, Lockett or something like that. But he gave a specific name. And his parents, like, looked at each other like, we don't know who any of these people are. And then the kid would start to talk more about his experiences, and he would say that, like, he is talking about the time that he died in a plane crash. And his parents were like, where was this? He was like, it was. It was in the ocean. It was inside of a, like, military plane. And then he would draw pictures of planes being shot. He would draw pictures of, like, aircraft carriers floating in the water. They had no idea what was going on. One day his dad asked him, what is the name of the boat that you were on? And he gave the. He said, like, Namoto. And this is, like, I think it was three years old at the time. And his dad went online, looked it up. There wasn't a lot of the Internet back in, like, the early 2000s wasn't as extensive as a database as it is now. But after a lot of searching, his dad found a small aircraft carrier that was in World War II. I think it was called the Nemoto. And then his dad looked at the log of people that were on that ship. The name that his son had given him was one of the guys that was on that ship. Then his dad did more research, bought a book about World War II. And it was like, a section about Iwo Jima. And he was reading it on the couch with his son next to him. And his son stopped on a page and was like, that's where I died. And the dad's like, what are you. What are you talking about? He's like, that's where I died, right there. And this kid, he would write his name as James 3. Like, they taught him how to spell his name and how to write it. And he would write James 3 every time he wrote it. And they'd be like, why are you writing James 3? And he's like, because I'm the third. And so his dad went up, he looked at the military records of the ship and found out that there was one person who died in that battle on a plane. And his name was James junior. And his kid is saying, I'm James three, describing exactly the way that this guy was shot down in a plane at that location.

[Macrodosing Host]

How old was this kid?

[Big T]

I think he started with the night terrors when he was 2 years old.

[Macrodosing Host]

See, I'm obviously, I don't, you know, subscribe to this at all, but I, it does seem more interesting when it's from like a 2, 3 year old.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

Then maybe a 5 or 6 year old who could have, you know, seen something on TV and is repeating it or whatever. But if you're three and you're saying.

[Big T]

That kind of stuff, it's pretty crazy, isn't it?

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

To. And so this guy, Dr. Jim Tucker from UVA, after his parents started like getting real weirded out by it, they invited this doctor to come down and talk to him. And the doctor, after his initial visit took some information from the kid that ended up becoming true that they did not know was true at the time of the visit. So like cross referencing all these records and they're like, yeah, there's, there's even more stuff that lines up than what we even knew about up until then. And then they took the kid when he was like 4 years old to meet. It was like a reunion of everybody that served on that ship. And so they took their kid and they're like, I know this is weird, but he swears that he was on the ship and his name was James. And then he became like the four year old kid, like fit in super well and had like a great time quote reuniting with all the other people that were on that ship.

[Macrodosing Host]

I don't know, man.

[Arian]

What do you mean he fit in well?

[Big T]

Like he, he was there for like the entire dinner and he was going up to people, like all the different people that were there and having good conversations with him and they took, they ended up taking the kid to conversations. I don't know, but they, they took the kid.

[Arian]

I'm not on, I'm just clearly I'm just a skeptical human.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

And so when you say a child is having good conversations with plane survivor adults, I would love to have. Is there any transcript from these conversations?

[Big T]

No, I mean, they just took the kid to meet all the people that were on that ship in World War II.

[Arian]

Did he remember any of them?

[Big T]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Arian]

Tommy the chef, what up?

[Big T]

I don't know that they recorded everything at the time.

[Macrodosing Host]

But you'd imagine if one of your best friends dies and then 25 years later a 4 year old comes up to you. And it's like, hey, it's James.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

And they just like, know stuff about you.

[Arian]

Yeah, that shit would be so wild. That was creepy.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah, that I don't. No, don't like it.

[Arian]

Like, bro, you don't remember, bro, we used to mess with the same girl and you're like famous.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah. Imagine a four year old telling you like, how's your wife?

[Big T]

Yeah, well, there's another, there's another study that this guy from UVA was, was a part of. And it was a kid that started again having night terrors when he was like 2 years old and started talking about how he used to be in the movies and, and how he used to live in Hollywood. And he would tell his parents, like, yeah, this reminds me of my old parents or like my old house that I used to live in. They were like, where, where did you live? And he's like, Hollywood. And they asked for his name and he gave the name of an obscure Hollywood actor named Marty Martin, who is like, you know, he was in a couple films in the 1930s out in Los Angeles. And they were watching or they had like a still from a movie. And the kid reach over, he goes, that's me right there and that's my friend that I was in the pictures with. And this kid was, was asked to write down like a list of 50 things that he remembered about his past life. And so the kid was like, okay, I can do that. I started an agency and our agency would change people's names. I drove, I used to drive a green car. I used to live on a street that had the word rock in it. And then he gave like a whole bunch of other. I had many wives. My grandmother's hair was super curly. So they had a big list of things. They contacted the family of this old Hollywood actor who had passed away. They found his daughter. They sent her the list of things that this little like 3, 4 year old kid had said about his past life. She went down the list and she was like, there's. There's so much stuff here. That is exactly correct. My dad did start an acting agency. Part of his acting agency would be to change people's names to make them into more marketable Hollywood stars. That was his favorite restaurant that you gave us. The name of the street that we lived on was called Roxbury. He did not drive a green car. And then she looked back and found out that yes, her dad did in fact drive a green car, but just not one that she had remembered. So like, the kid was like teaching her stuff about it. Pretty, pretty crazy stuff. And this kid was named Ryan and he was from the Midwest. And then there is footage of them bringing Ryan out to like meet with the daughter and meet with the niece. And it's the most awkward, uncomfortable thing that you've ever seen.

[Macrodosing Host]

I can imagine.

[Big T]

There's like a 15 year old kid that's walking in and he's like, hey, this kid might be your dad. And then they start asking him all these questions. He's like, I, I don't know, I don't have the memories anymore. This is just all stuff that used to come to me when I was like 2, 3, 4, 5 years old. And the niece was asking like, what do you remember about, about our grandmother? He was like, I don't remember. I don't remember anything. And so it's just a super awkward face to face conversation that they all had. And then they left. But pretty cr. There's crazy stories like there's another kid, and I think his name was Atlas.

[Arian]

And pretty dope name, actually.

[Big T]

Pretty cool name. And when he was 2, he started.

[Arian]

If I was to have a dog, I would name it Atlas. That's. That's fire.

[Big T]

Yeah, it's a, That's a good dog name for sure.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Big T]

So Atlas at one point was riding in the car with his mom and he said, I miss when my mom used to take me to the playground. And she goes, well, I, I am your mom. And he goes, no, my old mom. She was like, what are you talking about? He said, my old mom, she had the pretty hair. Which is not what you want to hear as a mom.

[Macrodosing Host]

Tough.

[Big T]

Really, really tough for that mom to get.

[Macrodosing Host]

You know, the distinguishing characteristic between you.

[Big T]

And her, she had, she had much pretty better hair than you had. And she like tried to shake it off, but then he would bring up his old mom to her. And then she asked, okay, well what, what was your name? Were you the same? Did you have the same name? And the kid gave a name. He goes, well, my mom had a different name than I did. My mom was named Washington. And my name. Let me make sure I get these names right. I think it was Washington. It might have been Robinson, though. Maybe it was Robinson. Let's just say it was Robinson. Said my mom was named Robinson, but that wasn't my name. I had a different name and my name was. I think it was Jalen. And then I died and everybody was really sad and the mom was like freaking out. And then the kid wouldn't stop talking about how he died and how he used to have a different mom. So what the mom did was she looked up online any sort of evidence of a crime or a murder of like a child who went by that full name because he gave her full name. Found a murder that had taken place in New York City, which was like I think a few hours away. They weren't in the New York City area. Found a murder that had taken place there of a four year old that was killed by his babysitter. His mom's name was Robinson. The kid's name matched up precisely with the murdered kid's name. So they called in the researcher from uva, went down there. He brought five different pictures. He brought or five different sets of pictures. He brought a few different pictures of women, a few different pictures of men, a few different pictures of houses, a few different pictures of playgrounds. And then he asked the kid, okay, which one of these is your mom? Which one of these is the playground that used to go to? And the kid, without thinking, you can see the video of it, like looks at the pictures and then confidently points at each one. And the kid goes five for five. Gets all five of them. Correct. And yeah, just pretty, pretty crazy shit. But then as you get older, those memories like start to fade. You start to overwrite them with your own memories at the time and then you no longer are able to access anything that you had at those young ages.

[Arian]

Have you ever looked into the effects of dmt?

[Big T]

So I was thinking about that when I was, I was doing some research on this because there might be like some sort of correlation between like the chemicals that your brain releases at certain times. But no, I haven't, I was gonna.

[Arian]

Go out further with it, right? So like, like rationally I don't, I can't justify this thought, right? But like, so if, if I was to subscribe to an after death experience, it would be something like what people describe when you do dmt. Like I said, I wouldn't rationally subscribe to it, but it, it feels the best to me just like anybody else has a feel, right? That's, this is why, that's what I probably feel would happen if something was to happen. So people that describe their experience on DMT is like this. The reason why it's always been intriguing to me is because it, it kind of correlates to how scientists describe our reality. Scientists describe our reality as like a, a vibrating field of, of. I guess, I guess that would be it. Like, like a vibrating field, right? Like our, our universe is a field of vibrations and, and, and it's what we perceive as light, it's what we perceive as smell, wind, whatever, water, it's, everything vibrates at a certain like frequency. And this is how scientists describe our reality. And so when you hear people that, that do DMT or even have near death experiences, they kind of describe it in a very similar way. They, they always talk about like an ego death. Right. And it's, it's similar to what I feel when I've ever taken mushrooms. When you take them. I always tell people it's not like a party drug where you just get high and you zoned out. It's something that's like when you drink alcohol you feel like you're in the world. Right. But when you, when you take mushrooms or, and what people describe as dmt, you feel like you are the world. Like when you listen to music, you feel like you are the music. And it's, it sounds crazy if you've never done it or if you've never felt it. Yeah, but, but if you, like I said, if you've never done it or never felt it. But when, but when you experience it, it's like I said, the people that do dmt, they describe this ego death where, where they kind of like disassociate themselves with a I, like there is no I, it is I am everything. And that feeling is hard to, you can't really, you can't describe it to somebody who hasn't felt it. And so listening to you describe like reincarnation and stuff like that, I mean it is a fascinating notion that maybe somehow your consciousness, because we still don't understand what consciousness is, so maybe somehow your consciousness survives via memory because I mean memory is just like what we know of it is like these electrical impulses in your brain, right? These electrical currents. So maybe it survives somehow throughout this field of vibrations. I don't know. It's an interesting concept that, that I've definitely thought about in the past.

[Big T]

Yeah, it's, it's interesting to think about because like nobody knows what exactly happens to you after you die.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And nobody's really studied that. We've speculated from a scientific standpoint they can break down what happens to your body after you die, the different materials it's made out of. But there has been. Because it's basically an impossible thing to study. So we don't really have any evidence that we can point to. So it's like, yeah, whatever scientific explanations you can come up with and study probably going to be good to dive into those like what this guy's doing. He does say that there's a lot. There are some people that are hoaxing. So like there could be a parent that has like talked to their small child about their grandmother non stop. Are there some cases where somebody has told the, the child like at birth. Oh, you were definitely the reincarnation of this person and they treat them like that person and then they start to talk about being that person as they get older and are able to start speaking and functioning. So there's like there are some hoaxes for sure, but in the cases I was talking about, those are all. They come from families that did not believe in reincarnation. Usually pretty religious families that thought that had no place in Christian doctrine and they examined them for fraud. There's also the possibility that these are coincidences where a child could make up a story and then that story fully aligns with something that actually happened. Because there have been billions and billions of people that have lived on planet Earth. And so if you make up a story, the chances are pretty good that somebody has lived that experience. But with some of them, like the details that that kid James was giving about dying in World War II at the age of like 2 or 3 years old when his dad didn't know anything about World War II until he got that book that, that to me seems like it's, it's hard to say. Like this is. There's no merit to it whatsoever.

[Arian]

Did you see the Shanti Devi one?

[Big T]

Yeah. What's that one?

[Arian]

There was like this, I mean similar story. This, this child had a few claims that she had a husband named Keter Nath In Mathura, like 75 miles away. Said she, she died 10 days after giving birth. She described her, her house layout. It's like a. I guess like a specific room in a staircase. She recognized that her, her ex husband I guess immediately and acted shy as a, as a wife would mentioned money hidden under a bed and then correctly identified family members and their pet names. And then when they corroborated it like all of that shit lined up like there was a cloth merchant 75 miles away named Keter Nath that had a wife pass and she passed nine days after giving childbirth. They, they can. They, they looked at the house. The house has like some staircase that, that matched the, the child's description. And they didn't know, I think they didn't know about the money under the bid, but I think they looked under. They found money.

[Big T]

Or.

[Arian]

No, no, I'm sorry that they. Nobody knew as far as, like, outside family. But I think the husband confirmed, like, that. Yeah. That. That nobody knew that we kept it under there. And so. And the family confirmed all. All the statements in the. I mean, in the pet names. And so. This shit's wild. I. I can't even. I don't. I don't. I'm a skeptic by nature, but, like, that is like.

[Big T]

And. And.

[Arian]

And, like, who knows, man? Like, people thought that Bigfoot footage was real for a long time until dude came out and said it. And I was fucking with y'. All.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

This could be one of those cases where we're getting got, because it's a very specific stuff in order to. All getting correct in that. In that order. And so we could. We could be getting got. But, you know, I'm gonna get mine more than I get got, though.

[Big T]

There you go. It's more common outside of the US Than it is inside the United States, even though I think all the ones I. I mentioned specifically were here in the US but it's very common or more common in India. And I did read a story about this one, this one girl that said that she, like, sold incense as a child, and her family was like, what are you talking about? We don't sell incense. And she named a specific brand that she sold, and they found out who made that. There was only one family that made that type of incense. They found out where that family lived, and she gave other detailed explanations about, like, their incense making process, how she used to sell it, where she used to sell it, until she got hit by a bus. And they went to go visit this family. They tracked down the village. The little girl led them through the village to the house, through the woods, knew exactly where it was, brought them to that house, met the family, and the family was like, yeah, we don't sell that type of incense anymore. But we did when we had a daughter that sold incense and she died by getting hit by a bus. And they described, like, the injuries that their daughter had when she got hit. And this Indian girl had a birthmark on her chest in the exact places that she had the fatal injury. And she just knew everything about the family.

[Arian]

Yeah. So, like, my skeptic hat being on. Right.

[Big T]

Yep.

[Arian]

It's like you said, a lot of these. There's a lot more instances outside of the US Where I would argue they're less stringent parameters to conduct these kind of experiments or to test these hypothesis. Like when. When Roswell happened, I think it was the 50s or something, you had an Influx of alien sightings. Right, Right. They were everywhere. And so it kind of rings that, because in India, they believe in reincarnation, so it's much more likely to develop stories or it not be out of the norm. Right. In order to have those stories fit the narrative of reincarnation.

[Big T]

Yep.

[Macrodosing Host]

And I believe in India, when that kind of thing happens, like, they treat the child as if it is the person that they purport to be.

[Big T]

Yeah. And it's celebrated.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Which also makes it more likely to have false claims out there if it's something that, you know is going to elicit a positive reaction.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah. Like if you show up to kindergarten and there's a kid in the class who's. Who was the best doctor.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

Or whatever.

[Big T]

Like, you're not giving that kid an F. Well.

[Macrodosing Host]

And you see that kid get all the cool stuff, and you're like, well, actually, I was. I was a lawyer, Believe it or not.

[Big T]

I was his boss.

[Macrodosing Host]

Right.

[Big T]

I was a better doctor.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Than that kid was. Yeah. So of the people that claim to remember past life, 70% of them remember a violent or traumatic strange death that's associated with that past life, and then they develop a fear of dying in that same way that can last them their entire lives. But the. The claim is that if you have a. A violent death that's more likely to be stored in whatever spirit you then inhabit a different body with later, that's one of the. The things that would make that stand out to you. Like, the theory is we all have been reincarnated, but if you're a reincarnation of somebody that suffered something so specific and violent at the end of your life, that's still strong enough to get into your brain as you've been reincarnated into your new body. So Dr. Tucker said that he's analyzed 2,000 cases, and 30% of the cases he studied involved a past life of someone who had died a natural death. These cases were evenly split between males and females. However, of the remaining 70% of cases where the past life ended in an accidental or unnatural death, 73% involved men. And those percentages mirror death statistics perfectly. More men than women die unnaturally. And Dr. Tucker reasoned that someone may be more likely to remember a past life if it ended in a violent or unnatural death. That's. Actually. That's a stat that I didn't. I didn't realize that, like, men die of, like, very traumatic deaths. 73%. Or of all violent, unnatural deaths, 73% are of men.

[Macrodosing Host]

Is that surprising to You, I just didn't know.

[Big T]

I didn't know that it was going to be that high. I mean wars little woke to me. Wars we do Reckless.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah. Men are involved in far more activities that are likely to result in death.

[Big T]

That is true. We're brave. We're so brave. And then 5% of people who remember a past life have an unusual skill related to that former life. So at the the vision of perceptual studies, they found 1 in 10 who remember a past life do that skill. Like if you're a farmer, you're very interested in crops. That also might be one of those things that's like reverse engineered where you're like, this kid has a crazy obsession with World War II airplanes. And then he then claims that he is formerly a pilot on one of those planes. That would probably be more likely for a kid to do that because he was obsessed with planes, which is a very cool thing to be obsessed with, by the way. Then 20% of people who remember past life also remember something from the time between death and rebirth. So you might have some sort of consciousness that's just floating around out there in between your past life and when you're reborn into a different body later on. So like the out of body experiences, that sort of thing. And there are people that I think at this same department at UVA that have studied, studied death to like how people perceive near death experiences. People who have died on the operating table. And they all have a lot of things that are very similar that they've all reported. Like they report seeing bright light, a welcoming bright light. They seem to remember that there's somebody that is guiding them through that journey. And then after a little bit they remember that same person telling them, no, you have to go back. And some, a lot of people remember like seeing their bodies from above, like witnessing themselves on the operating table. Pretty crazy stuff to think about.

[Arian]

This reminds me of, this is a one like Christian joke that I thought it was hilarious about atheists is it was Dane Cook. And he, he goes. And I'm like paraphrasing it, so look it up if you want to see it. He goes, he's like standing at a bus stop. He, he's a dude next to him sneezes and he sneezes again. And it's like he thought it was rude. So he said God bless you. And the guy says, that's was like I said, paraphrasing. But he's like, you know, I don't, I don't believe in that yada yada they get into like a theological debate. He's like, well, what do you believe in? He's like, I believe that when you die, you become the earth and the earth and the nutrients and, you know, eventually I'll become a tree. And he's like, he's like, man, I hope that happens to you. Hope that happens to you. And then one day a truck comes and just plow. Grinds you up and he turns and they make you into paper and they print the Bible on you.

[Guest]

It's a very funny bit. I know exactly. I like used to have it memorized. It's so funny.

[Macrodosing Host]

Do you know where God bless you comes from?

[Big T]

No.

[Macrodosing Host]

Check me on this, okay, Because I've, I just heard this once and ran with it. My, my understanding.

[Arian]

Hell yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

My. It makes sense though. My understanding is that in the Middle Ages they believe that when you sneezed, it was like demons exiting your body. So they would say God bless you as like a, a, a shroud over your, your demonic excretion.

[Big T]

Interesting. So there's a few different theories. One is that it came from the plague. And when you would sneeze, that would be a symptom of the plague. So saying God bless you would be like, please don't die.

[Macrodosing Host]

That makes sense also.

[Big T]

But there is a theory that it was like your soul or your, your spirit that was coming out and saying God bless you was the way. If you had a good soul, it was a way to keep your good soul in your body. If you had a bad soul, saying God bless you kept that spirit from re entering your body.

[Macrodosing Host]

Got it. So something along those lines.

[Arian]

Imagine sneezing back then. You're like, dog, that felt so good.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

I do wish I could sneeze on command.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

That is top four bodily function. Feeling good things.

[Big T]

Okay, I, I can guess.

[Macrodosing Host]

I can guess one.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah. Peeing.

[Arian]

That's a great one. Gotta go. And then, and then boo. Booing. Letting go of a nice little boo boo.

[Macrodosing Host]

But conversely can also be horrific.

[Arian]

No pun intended. Like you constipated.

[Macrodosing Host]

I just, if you, you know, had Taco Bell, whatever.

[Arian]

I mean, it can, I mean, I would argue that's still pretty relieving.

[Macrodosing Host]

I would say most times it's neutral, but more, it's more bad than good.

[Big T]

So what else is out there? You got crying. Crying can make people feel better sometimes.

[Arian]

Oh, crying can feel really good. Yeah.

[Big T]

Using a Q tip when you haven't used a Q tip for a long time, that feels really good, doesn't it?

[Arian]

I would argue that's not something your body does. That's.

[Big T]

Yeah, that's something you do to your body.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I still think it feels like a.

[Macrodosing Host]

Natural bodily function if you've got, like, something really stuck in your throat and you cough and it comes out.

[Big T]

Yeah, that.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's good.

[Big T]

That is good. Loosening anything up. Like a good crack of a knuckle.

[Macrodosing Host]

Oh, crack in your back pop.

[Big T]

Back pop is good. Neck pop.

[Macrodosing Host]

Get a foam roller.

[Arian]

I follow this dude, Dr. Tubio, on Instagram, and he just has the best technique I've seen of chiropractor. It just. I want to go see him so bad because I. I pop my neck all the time, which I probably shouldn't, but I feel like he could just get the spot. I can't.

[Macrodosing Host]

I pop my knuckles, like, 30 times a day, and I'm told you're not supposed to do that.

[Arian]

Have you ever popped this part right here?

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah, I don't think so.

[Arian]

That's the best part to pop. So what you do is.

[Big T]

Now he's talking about the base of his thumb.

[Arian]

Base of my thumb. And you and you and you. You press in this diagonal right here.

[Big T]

Yep.

[Arian]

It's one of the best. That's the best pop there is. I do that to people, and they don't know it's possible. And it just feels so good.

[Big T]

I did that earlier.

[Macrodosing Host]

You may have to do that to me.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

Do it to Big T. I. I.

[Big T]

Can only do it to myself. I can't even do it to my room.

[Macrodosing Host]

I don't even, like, feel where you're talking.

[Big T]

Only my left thumb.

[Arian]

So this bone is not like your wrist.

[Big T]

Right.

[Arian]

And so it's like this. It's like this. It's like this little thing that can. That can move in and you. And you press it in.

[Macrodosing Host]

Maybe I feel it now.

[Arian]

Yeah, it's a specific, like, direction you have to press. I do it to people all the time. They're like, what the was that? Do it again.

[Big T]

Your elbows ever pop?

[Arian]

I've never popped my elbow.

[Macrodosing Host]

Oh, yeah.

[Big T]

My elbows pop. What about your bad elbow?

[Macrodosing Host]

I. I don't do it as swift. Like, I just did it on that one, but it. Did you hear that? Yeah, it did a little bit.

[Big T]

How is. How's the elbow doing, by the way?

[Macrodosing Host]

That's 100%.

[Big T]

That's good. No range of motion issues?

[Macrodosing Host]

No, I think I can't get it, like, 100% straight. It's like 99.

[Big T]

But, yeah, other than that, my shoulders pop.

[Macrodosing Host]

They said some guys like that have that happen. They can sometimes can't get it past, like, here. Like, they can never straighten it, really.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Well, you're young and spry.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Do we want to talk about the Pollock twins at all?

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah, that was the original one I sent.

[Big T]

Yeah. But then it's just kind of reincarnation in general. I'm just fascinated with the fact that there's somebody that studies it that has. It's not proof, but it's proof of a lot of weird stuff. It might be just proof of coincidences.

[Arian]

Give me a percentile. Pft. Of how true or how accurate you think reincarnation is.

[Big T]

Well, I think it's one of those things that you either believe in or, like, it's either 100 or 0. Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

No one's pretty binary.

[Arian]

No one's like, I'm not asking what you think the world thing. I'm telling you yourself. Pft. When you die and what do you. How.

[Big T]

How are we, like.

[Arian]

I'm like 20 in on this. I'm like 15 in.

[Big T]

Yeah, I mean, I, I told you last time that it's like the Mufasa. Your body becomes the grass. The elephants eat the grass.

[Arian]

You're not like, entering another soul.

[Big T]

I, I don't. I am, like, fully agnostic about that. Like, your body, all the elements in your body will deteriorate and they will scatter and it will become part of the water, it will become part of the land, it'll become part of the air. The clouds will become part of everything. Other creatures will consume part of your body. Then you become. Uses nutrients for them and their bodies. And one day the earth will get eaten up by the sun. Then we're going to become parts of elements in the sun. One day the sun will expire and will become parts of elements in the universe.

[Arian]

Man, if James Earl Jones said that. Oh, cooking.

[Big T]

Yeah. I mean, that's, That's. That's all that I can say that I believe in. But nobody knows what happens to the thing that we call consciousness and how real the thing that we call consciousness is. Like, I can. I can feel myself being alive right now. I can feel the words that I'm saying. I can feel thoughts and think thoughts, and nobody really knows what happens to that part of your body, if that even is a part of your body after you die. So I'm not. I'm not saying that I don't believe in reincarnation at all. I'm just saying I. There's no way for me to know.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

No, Arian, I've been reading a book that you need to read.

[Arian]

It's so backed up, but I might give it a go.

[Macrodosing Host]

It's called. I think I may have sent it to you right before I started. It's called that all shall be saved. And it's by a guy who is a universalist. Meaning he believes that eventually everyone enters heaven, basically. And that an eternal conscious hell is incompatible with the Bible.

[Arian]

I do agree with that.

[Big T]

I just.

[Arian]

I would not be looking forward to an afterlife in heaven.

[Macrodosing Host]

Explain.

[Arian]

It would be so boring.

[Big T]

All the good things that could possibly happen to happen to you, happen to you all the time.

[Arian]

Yeah, I like to get drunk sometimes. Can't do that up there.

[Big T]

You could feel drunk.

[Arian]

I don't. I think, I think Jesus would want to sober you.

[Macrodosing Host]

He provided wine.

[Guest]

I was going to say the wine at communion.

[Arian]

Hey, if he got. Hey, if he got wine flowing from the tap water up there.

[Macrodosing Host]

And it actually me in that story does describe that at the weddings, like they would go through the bad wine first and then save the good wine for later.

[Arian]

See why Jesus making bad wine?

[Macrodosing Host]

No, that, that was like customarily what people did.

[Big T]

He's like, okay, we can get to the cus later Ar but first here's some night train.

[Guest]

We gotta get rid.

[Arian]

Go with the twist off bottle, man.

[Big T]

Come on.

[Arian]

Jesus.

[Macrodosing Host]

Again, that was not Jesus that did that. That was the co. Custom.

[Big T]

Anyway, Aryan. Welcome to heaven. Here's your bottle of Thunderbird. What's. What's the word? Thunderbird. What's the price? $ twice.

[Macrodosing Host]

I don't know what that means.

[Big T]

That was their marketing slogan back way back in the day.

[Guest]

It was $2.

[Big T]

Yeah. What's the word? Thunderbird. What's the price? A dollar twice.

[Macrodosing Host]

Nice. And then I also, through reading this, I learned of people who are annihilationists. Do you know about this?

[Arian]

No. So if I'm here, they want to get rid of everything.

[Macrodosing Host]

No, no, no, no. So I, I find far more biblical justification for this than universalism, which is what this guy wrote the book about. So there's basically infernalists, annihilationists and universalists. Infernalists are people who believe in like the traditional hell that you would think of. Universalists, like the guy who wrote this book, whose name I do not recall off the top of my head, believe everyone eventually becomes safe. Annihilationists believe that Christians go to heaven and non Christians don't go to hell. They just like what you believe happens when you die. You just die. That's it.

[Arian]

That basically whatever you feel happens that.

[Macrodosing Host]

Basically there's heaven and then nothing else. And I do think there's actually interesting justification in the Bible for that view.

[Arian]

Yeah. Yeah, I'd rather do that.

[Macrodosing Host]

Well, yeah.

[Big T]

Of.

[Macrodosing Host]

Of the. You'd rather do that than go to heaven?

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's nice.

[Big T]

I'm out.

[Arian]

I'm out on heaven.

[Big T]

You're opting out of heaven?

[Arian]

I'm opting out preemptively.

[Big T]

That's why I say, to be clear, if heaven is a real place, like I want it.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I would rather be. Yeah. I'd rather have great feelings all the time, doing everything.

[Arian]

Bandwagon.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Guest]

Well, then you can see all your other. Your other relatives that are up there.

[Big T]

Yeah. See everybody that you love. You feel a lot of love.

[Arian]

I saw enough of them here. I'm good.

[Big T]

You don't mean that.

[Arian]

I'm pretty sure I do.

[Macrodosing Host]

I gotta be honest. I don't think I've ever heard anyone espouse that opinion.

[Big T]

Yeah. Anti heaven. Yeah.

[Guest]

Like, if you had a choice. Yeah.

[Big T]

Aaron, would you rather everything be good or you not feel anything at all?

[Arian]

Well, if everything is good, I don't have a reference point to anything else, so I wouldn't even know it was good.

[Big T]

But you don't even have to worry about the reference points because that's how good it is. It's so good. And you're excited all the time because of how good.

[Arian]

I can't. I can't know. Good because. I don't know. Bad.

[Big T]

That rule doesn't apply in heaven.

[Arian]

It's so good that we just make a up now.

[Big T]

No, it's so good that you don't even have to. There's nothing that you compare it to and you're just feeling good.

[Arian]

Just this constant state of a crack high.

[Big T]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Arian]

I don't know, man. The. That I find beautiful about life is the ups and downs.

[Big T]

You'll find good stuff about heaven too.

[Arian]

Like what?

[Big T]

They probably have a great football team.

[Arian]

I definitely don't want to play football up there. The.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Macrodosing Host]

I don't know that. That you'd make it.

[Arian]

I hate how you say that.

[Macrodosing Host]

Like, I mean, Walter Payton is starting.

[Big T]

Yep.

[Macrodosing Host]

Jim Brown is.

[Arian]

No, he's not. No, he's not. Barry Sanders is going to be starting.

[Macrodosing Host]

Barry Sanders is with us.

[Arian]

Well, so am I.

[Big T]

What the fuck?

[Arian]

Why did I die?

[Big T]

We're.

[Guest]

No, we're saying if you get it once, you.

[Big T]

Okay, so in. In this world, I was going off.

[Macrodosing Host]

Of who's playing right now.

[Big T]

That's what I would say too. Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

Current roster.

[Big T]

Okay, so. So Barry Sanders is dead and he's starting at half bat.

[Arian]

I don't want to put that on him.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah.

[Arian]

Because he actually did have a heart attack like last year. Oh, no, it's too late.

[Big T]

It's too late.

[Macrodosing Host]

It's too late.

[Big T]

I would dispute Jim Brown.

[Macrodosing Host]

Big T. All right. Who else?

[Guest]

O.J.

[Big T]

Well, listen, we're talking heaven pound for pound.

[Macrodosing Host]

I mean. Well, that's. That's an interesting point as well. We do have.

[Arian]

But if everybody gets in.

[Guest]

Right.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah. Are we going with a universalist approach?

[Arian]

Let's go with that. Just. That's the. The Prop 42. That'll get. That'll get you in.

[Macrodosing Host]

He was acquitted.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

Also got to lower load of standards.

[Big T]

To get a good football team. That also. It makes the Jim Brown conversation a lot easier because I don't want to have that one either.

[Macrodosing Host]

Oh, was he bad?

[Big T]

There was things that Jim Brown did. Yeah.

[Arian]

I think he beat his wife a lot.

[Macrodosing Host]

I'm unfamiliar. I apologize.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

I led with Walter Payton.

[Big T]

Walter Payton, Yeah. Great guy.

[Arian]

Yep, great guy.

[Macrodosing Host]

Who else has. Has passed from the.

[Arian]

From the running back?

[Macrodosing Host]

Let's ask Chat GPT who the best running backs are?

[Arian]

Who's the best dead running backs are. It's crazy.

[Macrodosing Host]

I mean, that's what we're looking for, ain't it?

[Big T]

Mercury Morris.

[Macrodosing Host]

First one it gave me was Jim Brown. Gail Sayers.

[Big T]

Oh, Gail Sayr is great. Great running back.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Big T]

No injury concerns in heaven either. No such thing as a torn acl.

[Arian]

He'll play a long time.

[Macrodosing Host]

It's given me a lot.

[Arian]

It's crazy that that's what took him. You know what I'm saying? That's what took him down. And now like ACL is like a run of the mill injury that you come back from next year.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

A lot of these guys are from like the 40s. Interesting. It does not list OJ or Walter Payton, actually. Stupid AI, but yeah. I mean, if. If in a few years there's Peyton, Sanders and O.J. you're not. You're not getting any touches.

[Arian]

I'll be a special teams guy up there.

[Big T]

Okay. Would you rather. Would you rather be in heaven or be reincarnated as a horse?

[Arian]

The do I want to be a horse for?

[Big T]

Well, you don't get to choose.

[Macrodosing Host]

Could be worse than a horse. Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah, it could be a lot worse.

[Arian]

What's worse than a horse?

[Macrodosing Host]

You think a horse is almost any animal.

[Big T]

Yeah. Horses, live horses, you're.

[Arian]

You're condemned to fucking make Humans ride you all day.

[Big T]

You talk about a race.

[Macrodosing Host]

I want to go very specific subset of horse.

[Arian]

Yeah, you could be this thing in your mouth. You can have to go the direction I want you to go. Hell no.

[Big T]

You could be a police horse.

[Arian]

That's even worse.

[Big T]

Crowd control.

[Macrodosing Host]

What you want to be. You want to be like a cockroach? Get stepped on?

[Arian]

No, I want to be an orca.

[Big T]

Well, okay, you could be. You could be a beer delivering horse.

[Arian]

You still have to do what? Humans? You're a human slave.

[Big T]

No, a wild horse, though. You'd be a stallion.

[Arian]

Talking wild horses, that's different.

[Big T]

A zebra.

[Arian]

What percentage of the horses are wild versus domesticated?

[Macrodosing Host]

Hold, please.

[Big T]

There's still. There's a lot of wild ponies out there.

[Arian]

I mean, I don't know.

[Big T]

Being a zebra would suck. You never really have a good night's sleep.

[Macrodosing Host]

Oh, wow.

[Big T]

You are flies.

[Macrodosing Host]

Did you get the same number I did? Mackenzie?

[Guest]

I didn't even get a number.

[Macrodosing Host]

Less than 1% are wild.

[Guest]

It also says most wild horses are actually feral.

[Macrodosing Host]

Okay, I would have guessed 30.

[Big T]

Yeah, that's. That's surprising to me.

[Macrodosing Host]

Pretty low.

[Big T]

We gotta do something. Okay, so orca. I'm not going to give you your one. One choice.

[Arian]

Yeah, just. Just like a supreme being making it all difficult.

[Big T]

You're gonna come back as a dog and you're gonna.

[Arian]

Oh, the what?

[Big T]

You're gonna eat your words.

[Macrodosing Host]

What kind of dog?

[Big T]

A very good dog. But you're not gonna.

[Arian]

But don't be good.

[Big T]

But you're not gonna have a family. But you would have been so good if you had a family that loved you.

[Arian]

I'd rather be a street dog. Figured out on my own.

[Big T]

You get the mange. You get skin infections.

[Arian]

Eating like this sounds very much like the Bible.

[Big T]

Eating fish bones out of a trash bag.

[Arian]

The Old Testament guy.

[Big T]

Yeah, I'm vengeful right now because between your. Your national treasure and your anti heaven take.

[Macrodosing Host]

Okay, I want national treasure clipped, by the way, please.

[Arian]

But listen, believe, listen. The reason why it's not a heist, because that's their goal. By your logic, Big T. Anytime anybody has either stolen something or picked up something on the way of another, they're heisting.

[Macrodosing Host]

No, you read a very specific definition.

[Arian]

Yes, I did.

[Macrodosing Host]

And it satisfied every requirement.

[Arian]

A planned and usually daring robbery or theft, often of valuables from a secure place like a bank or museum, they put it back.

[Macrodosing Host]

You could not write a better definition.

[Arian]

They put it back is a robbery is to obtain a. A thing and to keep It. They put it back. The goal was not to take anything. The goal.

[Macrodosing Host]

The goal was to take it. It wasn't to keep it.

[Arian]

That's. That.

[Macrodosing Host]

I would argue what happens after is.

[Arian]

Now. We have to. Now.

[Macrodosing Host]

Secondary definition of robbery.

[Arian]

Definition.

[Macrodosing Host]

Are you insinuating that if you go into a bank with a gun, say, give me all the money, but then, like, years later, you pay it back in restitution? That's not a robbery.

[Arian]

That's not a robbery.

[Macrodosing Host]

All right, well, then. Okay, well, then you're just objectively wrong about everything.

[Arian]

Okay, that. That is. That is a robbery. That is robbery. Okay, that's a. That's a ridiculous. That's. That's a ridiculous. Not apples to apples. Comparison.

[Big T]

It's.

[Macrodosing Host]

It certainly is.

[Arian]

In order to heist something to have a height, your. Your plan is not to like. It was. It was a. It was a means to an end. So, like, they. They needed this to get to this. Right? They put it back. It was not to. They. They. They. They thought very highly of it. It was. The goal wasn't that, but it was.

[Macrodosing Host]

To steal it.

[Arian]

Borrow it.

[Big T]

Which would.

[Macrodosing Host]

Which they had to.

[Big T]

It's against the law for them to.

[Macrodosing Host]

They had to cure it by stealing.

[Big T]

Their intent was not to keep it, but they had to break the law to get it to borrow it, which is a robbery. Which is a heist. Mm. I think you're playing.

[Arian]

Okay, well, how. How is Inception not a heist then?

[Big T]

My. My quarrel with you was more about the fact that you said Inception is a heist, but National Treasure is not a heist. Also, is it against the law to break into somebody's brain? Where's that law?

[Arian]

Wait, when. When. Wait, why is the law being.

[Big T]

Because it's a heist.

[Arian]

So unless it's so, you have to. It has to be unlawfully, I think.

[Big T]

So to be a heist. Right. Like, what would be an example of a lawful heist? Even if you're trying to get back something that's rightfully yours, you still have to break the. Like, if there's a movie where you're trying to steal something back from somebody that has stolen from you, you're still breaking the law to get it back. I'd say that qualifies as a heist.

[Arian]

Movie by the definition. Yeah, it says a planned and usually daring robbery or theft, often of valuables. So something that's valuable could be immaterial.

[Big T]

I agree with that. But is it a theft or a robbery if it's not against the law?

[Arian]

Well, that's a Moral question.

[Big T]

So are we defining a heist movie as something that is not necessarily a crime? Because every heist movie I can think about, it's a crime. Diamonds, money.

[Arian]

Okay, I will concede that Inception isn't a heist under the guise that it's. No, it is a crime. Let me take that back. It absolutely is a crime.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Arian]

You unwillfully seduced. I'm sorry. Induced a man. Put him to sleep. That's a crime.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Arian]

Boom. Heist.

[Big T]

I will concede that. That's a. That's a heist. If you can see that National Treasure is also a heist, fine.

[Arian]

But.

[Big T]

Okay, there we go.

[Arian]

There's a caveat. There's a caveat. The goal was never to rob anything. I'm just saying it's a heist. Okay. It's a heist with ash. Okay.

[Big T]

Yeah. Let's talk about the Pollock twins real quick. The Pollock twins, they are one of the most famous examples of reincarnation. Allegedly. I actually have less faith in the Pollock twin case than I do in. In the more recent ones.

[Macrodosing Host]

Oh, really?

[Big T]

Like the ones that I brought up. Yeah. Because the dad was a heavy believer in reincarnation. Like, heavy, heavy believer.

[Macrodosing Host]

The mom wasn't.

[Big T]

The mom was not. But the dad, John, he used to pray for evidence of reincarnation so that he could be like, see, I was right. All the religious leaders, all the authority figures. You were all wrong. I'm right. Reincarnation is a thing. So they. They had a daughter that was born in 1946, and in 1951, they had a second daughter. And they were. They were working. Not the daughters. The parents were working as being grocers and milk deliverers at the time, which is a hilarious job. That used to happen. Like, you would be a milkman.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah. And every time you see that, they're delivering, like, a pint of milk.

[Big T]

Yeah. You used to get fresh milk delivered to your house.

[Macrodosing Host]

Was that like, daily?

[Big T]

I don't know if it was daily or, like, bi weekly, because it's never a lot. No, we don't. No one delivers milk anymore. It's a dying art.

[Macrodosing Host]

Well, maybe it's actually kind of come back with. With raw milk eats and stuff.

[Big T]

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. You can instacart.

[Macrodosing Host]

You can get anything delivered.

[Big T]

Almost. Almost anything.

[Arian]

With Uber Eats chocolate milk delivered last night.

[Big T]

That's not any cookies.

[Arian]

No, I don't like cookies.

[Macrodosing Host]

Hang on, hang on. Like, period.

[Arian]

No, I don't like sweets.

[Macrodosing Host]

I could see. I could see, like, candy or whatever. You don't like cookies? Brownies.

[Arian]

Sweet.

[Guest]

Sweet ice cream.

[Arian]

Sweet.

[Macrodosing Host]

Well, we've been over ice cream. But that's crazy.

[Arian]

I know. I mean, I don't like, I can have a bite of it, but I can't eat, like a whole dessert. It's.

[Macrodosing Host]

It's just like fresh, warm baked chocolate chip cookies.

[Arian]

Not a thing that I enjoy.

[Macrodosing Host]

Oh.

[Big T]

Do you like. So when you order salty stuff?

[Arian]

I like, like.

[Big T]

You like chocolate milk?

[Arian]

That chocolate milk wasn't for me.

[Big T]

Oh, okay.

[Arian]

Like Miss Vicky's jalapeno chips. I would have that a thousand times over.

[Macrodosing Host]

Like ice cream, but they're not mutually exclusive. Ice cream. No, I'm just my first pick either.

[Arian]

But no, I'm just saying preference. Like, I would much rather like if you were like, which dessert would you rather have? I would pick chips.

[Macrodosing Host]

Interesting.

[Big T]

I do like salted treats better than I like sweet treats. But I also like. I like dessert too. I'm gonna have some ice cream.

[Macrodosing Host]

Like, like if you ate a steak. And then after, I was like, you can have a warm, perfect brownie or chips.

[Arian]

I can't remember last time I ate a brownie. Last time I had a brownie had weed in it.

[Macrodosing Host]

Fair enough.

[Arian]

And it was. And that shit. That shit fucked me up. Oh, my God. I feel like when she made it, all of the THC was concentrating into my square. Cause I was outta there, dawg. Panic attack.

[Big T]

That's what happens every time. Every time I've had a brownie, the exact same experience. Eat too much.

[Arian]

It's not good. The irony is I used to love cheesecake. I would eat a whole thing of cheesecake by myself. Loved cheesecake. But I think when I hit, like, I don't know, early 30s, I just stopped liking sweets. Oh, and Reese's cups. I used to love those too. And I just. I can't even eat them anymore. It just don't.

[Big T]

Oh, it's so good.

[Arian]

Yeah, that used to be my. I just don't.

[Big T]

I don't know what it is.

[Arian]

I just don't. It doesn't do it for me.

[Big T]

I'm never gonna.

[Arian]

I take it back. I will guzzle Dr. Pepper. I am absolutely in love with Dr. Pepper and addicted to it. So maybe that's it.

[Big T]

That is a sweet thing. Yeah.

[Arian]

Yeah. I'll take that.

[Big T]

So back to the. The Pollock twins. They were. This is over in England. It was like northern England next to Scotland. There were two daughters. These two were not twins. They were separated by about five years. And the older was named Joanna. The younger Was named Jacqueline. And Joanna used to have a premonition that she would never grow up to be an adult. She would tell her parents, I will never be a lady. I will never grow up. And when they were 11 and 6 years old, they were hit by a car, and they were killed while they were walking to church. And the mom kind of went into a deep black hole, and the dad just would not stop thinking about them. And he got it in his head that he was being punished by God for his belief in reincarnation, and he had sinned. And then God took that. Took his two daughters away from him. But then the mom got pregnant again, and the father became convinced that they were going to have twins so that they could get both of their daughters back. And she was going in for her checkups. The doctor was saying, no, I just. I can hear one heartbeat. You're just having a single baby. But then at the time of birth, they discovered, yes, you have twin daughters. They were named Jillian and Jennifer. Jennifer had a birthmark that looked like Jacqueline's scar and a second birthmark in the same place as Jacqueline's birthmark. And according to the parents, the two daughters, two twins, started to remember things about the town that their family used to live in before they were born. So they would spot landmarks. They would understand the roads. They would describe the school that Joanna and Jacqueline, the older daughters, used to go to, even though they had never seen it before. And they could name their sisters, their late sister's toys by the names of each toy, Even though the mom had kept the toys out of sight, the twin girls would start to ask for the certain names of certain toys that only the older sisters that were now dead would have known. And so the dad, John, was like, yeah, this is. This is proof I've been right all along. They're reincarnated. The mom did not agree. The mom kept saying, no, this is not. This is not what you think. John, I know you want to have proof of your reincarnation fantasy, but one time, the mom heard them playing a game, and the two girls were pointing to each other and saying, the blood's coming out of your eyes. That's where the car hit you. And the mark on your forehead is from when you fell in a bucket, which were the accidents that they had when they were. When the original daughters were still alive. And then after they turned five, the memories started to go away, which is consistent with the other stuff that we've heard about. The dad says that he had nothing to do with giving them these Memories. They also had older siblings, so this is where I don't really. It's harder for me to buy into this one than it is for some of the later ones. But if you have a dad that is adamant about reincarnation and thinks that you're the reincarnation of his two previous daughters, there's going to be things that you were told that you can pick up on as a child and start to act into those different ways.

[Arian]

Right.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah. I didn't know that he was like Arden. I just read that he believed in it.

[Big T]

Yeah. He was a. He was a believer prior to it. And I.

[Arian]

This is how I feel about speaking in tongues.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

Same vibes.

[Big T]

Yeah. If you see somebody else do it, then you're more likely to just start doing the exact same thing that you've seen.

[Arian]

Right. Have you ever seen that in person?

[Big T]

Yeah. It's weird.

[Arian]

It is bizarre, though.

[Big T]

It's very strange. It's like, where. Where are you getting these words from? Are they just freestyling the words? Just the sounds? Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

I've never understood that either.

[Arian]

Or catching the Holy Ghost, too. That funny, too.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

Well, that's kind of in the same vein, I think.

[Arian]

Yeah. But it's just funny seeing it in person. It's wild.

[Big T]

So there's a podcast out there about the. The reincarnation of the Pollock twins, and the. The host of it talks with John was the dad. The host talks to John's granddaughters, who are named Liza. Yep.

[Arian]

That's.

[Big T]

That's what the whole podcast is about, about this story. Yeah.

[Arian]

Not a lucrative.

[Big T]

My guess. It's probably like a limited series, like, got you, like, six episodes about this thing that happened.

[Arian]

Got you.

[Big T]

So both the daughters say that John, who was the father, or both the granddaughters say that John, who was the father of the twins, was a controlling, violent man and that he would manipulate his wife. And he was a gaslighter and a narcissist, and he roped everyone into it and that it was a family secret. And they ended up tracking down one of the daughters, the one who was claimed to be the reincarnation of the daughters who died in the car accident. And she gave an interview, first time in 40 years. She said that John, her father, was a loving dad, and he never lied to the twins about the reincarnation, but he was not perfect. He was a very big spiritualist. I think what he said was the truth, as he believed it, and he never pushed them to say anything about the previous daughters. We didn't know anything about the girls until we were well into our teenage years. And she said, I 80% think it's reincarnation. There's got to be something there. It would be nice to solve the mystery once and for all, but I think it's always going to be a mystery. I think it's up to people to make their minds up. So I, that, that to me also seems like something that you would say if your dad had, like, pressured you into being, into saying that you were reincarnated. Imagine all the pressure that's got to go along with that. If your dad is like, constantly believing that you're the reincarnation of his previous daughters. And, like, he only gets happy when you do something that reminds you of the kid that he used to have, that's gonna be a pretty weird way to grow up. And that'll probably screw you up in terms of your own, like, self. Self worth for a long time.

[Arian]

Yeah, he needs probably a lot of therapy.

[Big T]

Yeah. So I don't know. Where are you at, Arian? Where, how, how much?

[Arian]

My room.

[Big T]

What percent do you believe in reincarnation?

[Arian]

I don't know that I believe in it at all, but I think I'm open to the possibility.

[Big T]

I, I don't.

[Arian]

Think that's what happens. So I'm, I'll, I'll, I'll leave 5% for. In the event that it, it's possible or I have other evidence. Like, I'm never closed off to anything. Like, I just don't find it very plausible. But, like, the one thing that that is interesting is if, like, I think I talked about this last time I was in the studio. But, like, I do have, like, very strong draws to past civilization. That may or may not mean anything, but I know other people have felt similarly. So like I said, I'm very strongly drawn to Old Kingdom in Egypt. I'm also very drawn to, like, the, I don't know, ancient Japanese cultures.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Arian]

Like, samurai vibes. Like, I'm very drawn to that as well.

[Macrodosing Host]

Very.

[Arian]

Feels very nostalgic. May just like the architecture, you know, who knows where it comes from? But yeah, I don't think we, we reincarnate. It would be dope. Honestly, I think there's so much we don't know about this universe and I have no fucking clue what happens, but it would be dope to continue to exist in some way, shape or form. I just, I just don't know that this is it. But it would be cool. I would like to continue to exist. I enjoy life. I enjoy doing things I like who I am. I like my people. I would like to see them in another place. That'd be cool, But I just don't think that that was happening.

[Big T]

What. What animal would you choose? Orca.

[Arian]

Oh, no question. Orca.

[Big T]

I think a bird would be cool, too.

[Arian]

Bird would be cool, but I have to be, like, an eagle.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah.

[Arian]

You don't want to be a pigeon.

[Big T]

I don't want to be a crow. I don't want to be a. Yeah, grackle. Grackle would be the worst bird, I think.

[Arian]

No, the worst bird would be. What's the bird that can't fly?

[Macrodosing Host]

Penguin.

[Big T]

Oh, penguin would be kind of cool.

[Arian]

No. You get hunted by orcas seals and polar bears.

[Big T]

Yeah, and seals.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

Polar bear would be a sick.

[Big T]

And you just sit in ducks.

[Arian]

You know, you're just sitting there. You can't get away. You don't do it like. It's just a. You're just food. Your entree.

[Macrodosing Host]

They do have a nice aura about them, though. They seem like they have fun.

[Arian]

Yeah, they seem kind. Yeah, they're cute.

[Big T]

They waddle. They're goofy.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Big T]

They fall in love. You ever watch March of the Penguins? It's actually like you might. You might change your perception of penguins. It's a great documentary.

[Arian]

I don't know that I have strong convictions about penguins either way, but.

[Big T]

They fall in love. They mate for life. They present their. Their partner with, like, an engagement ring.

[Arian]

Really?

[Big T]

Yeah. It's crazy. And then the males, they go on. They go on these journeys where they walk for. I forget how many. How many miles, but, like hundreds of miles. Five hundred it might be. They walk to the. To the sea. They. They gorge on. Appreciate you back on, like, fish. And then they bring it back. Use that fish to feed their loved one as the baby's growing in the egg. Then they take over egg respons. It's actually. It's. It's a cute movie. You should watch it.

[Arian]

So they got Simpson.

[Big T]

Every species, they are simps. Yes.

[Macrodosing Host]

Male penguins search for the perfect pebble. Smooth, round, flat, ideal for nesting. To present to a female by placing it at her feet or adding it to her nest. If the female accepts the pebble, it is a sign that she accepts him as a mate. The two may then continue to build a nest together out of pebbles, which helps incubate eggs and keep them off the ice.

[Guest]

Oh, chivalry.

[Big T]

No, I think Aran's right, actually. It's. That is loser behavior. Come on, man.

[Arian]

So many different penguins.

[Big T]

She's not gonna you, bro.

[Macrodosing Host]

In some penguin colonies, pebble theft is common. Penguins will steal pebbles each other's nests while no one is looking.

[Big T]

See, those are the smart penguins. Yeah.

[Guest]

They don't travel. They just.

[Big T]

Yeah, work smarter, not harder.

[Arian]

Is that Ma', am. Let me see that ring. Where'd you get that from?

[Big T]

My husband gave it to me. Familiar Mr. Penguin Fugazi. Pebbles.

[Guest]

Like there's a counterfeit pebble diamond grown or lab grown pebbles?

[Arian]

Lab grown pebbles.

[Big T]

They got, they got pebble mines where they put. They put like all the enslaved penguins to work.

[Arian]

Do they, do they have like infighting like that?

[Big T]

I don't know if they got wars or not.

[Arian]

I seem like happy. Like little, little guys.

[Big T]

I think they have enough to worry about from, from outside predators.

[Arian]

I'm saying they, I mean, they can have no way to defend themselves though.

[Big T]

No. They're probably delicious.

[Arian]

Gotta be, right?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Arian]

Oh, I wonder if penguin meat tastes good.

[Big T]

There was that expedition that would actually be a good macro dosing too. I think it was called Shackelford, the Shackelford Journey to the South Pole. They got stranded in Antarctica for a long time because their ship broke down and in order to survive they had to eat something. And the penguins like befriended them and they would have to kill penguins every now and again that would just like walk up and sit down next to them and hang out and be like, sorry, dude, I gotta kill you. We gotta eat.

[Arian]

All right, little, little, little penguin factoid here. In almost all parts of the world, eating penguins is illegal. They are protected by international treaties and domestic laws such as the Antarctic Treaty system. While historic accounts indicate that explorers ate penguins out of desperation for survival, doing so is not an option today. But there has been people that done in the past and it says that it is an unpleasant flavor. Explorers who have been eaten, who have eaten penguins report that the meat is tough and extremely fishy. Oily, greasy. One description likened it to a piece of beef, odiferous codfish and a canvas back duck roasted together in a pot with blood and cod liver oil for sauce. That's kind of wild. High in toxins, parasites and ethical concerns.

[Big T]

Okay, I got a piece of penguin trivia. Where on planet Earth are the only penguins that are naturally found above the equator?

[Arian]

The zoo.

[Big T]

Naturally.

[Macrodosing Host]

Show me. Now, this could make me look stupid. I honestly don't know if it's above or below Madagascar.

[Big T]

It's below.

[Macrodosing Host]

It's got to be close, right?

[Big T]

Greenland. No, no penguins in Greenland.

[Macrodosing Host]

Oh, I don't think it's close at all. Never Mind.

[Big T]

It's not.

[Arian]

This is not. It's not the obvious. Alaska. That's not.

[Big T]

No.

[Arian]

Can't be that.

[Big T]

No penguins there.

[Arian]

Russia.

[Big T]

Nope. Give up.

[Arian]

No. I'll never, never surrender.

[Macrodosing Host]

Oh, it actually is pretty close, actually. So you.

[Arian]

Italy.

[Big T]

Madagascar.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Big T]

No, let me see. Let me see. Madagascar on a map.

[Arian]

Nova Scotia.

[Macrodosing Host]

It's like. Right.

[Big T]

That's not that. That's not that close.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's very close.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Arian]

Ireland.

[Big T]

Nope.

[Macrodosing Host]

You going to tell us? Are we going to sit here?

[Big T]

Well, I asked Aaron if he gave up. He said never. So we might.

[Arian]

You go, Slavia.

[Big T]

That's not a.

[Arian]

Rochester, New York.

[Big T]

Nope. All right, I'm gonna take that as. As I give up.

[Arian]

Go ahead.

[Big T]

Ecuador.

[Arian]

Ecuador.

[Big T]

The Galapagos Islands have their own species of penguin.

[Macrodosing Host]

Now, when I said Madagascar.

[Big T]

Yep.

[Macrodosing Host]

I think I was thinking Galapagos.

[Big T]

You're thinking about the Galapagosa. You don't think they're, like, halfway around the world from each other?

[Macrodosing Host]

I don't know, man. I knew it was an island.

[Big T]

Huh?

[Macrodosing Host]

And Madagascar popped into my head because of the. Maybe the movie. I don't know.

[Big T]

And that's a giant island.

[Arian]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah. But I. I knew island.

[Big T]

You knew island and you knew that it had penguins.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yes.

[Big T]

So you were close.

[Macrodosing Host]

I just guessed the wrong one. Happens.

[Big T]

I'll give you 50% credit on that. Yep. Shout out to the GPA ghost. I miss you. I'll be back soon. Anything else we want to get to today? Speak now or forever hold your peace.

[Macrodosing Host]

Do people do that?

[Arian]

Hold their peace?

[Macrodosing Host]

No.

[Big T]

You're the one that's planning a wedding. Object you've got. You have the opportunity to have the preacher say that. Because I don't objecting at your wedding. Big D. I don't think I've ever heard a preacher offer a time for objection.

[Macrodosing Host]

Oh, do they not say that?

[Guest]

I think I've heard it once at all the weddings I've been to. But I feel like that you don't do that anymore.

[Big T]

Yeah. I don't think I've been such a.

[Arian]

Messy thing to do, too.

[Big T]

Yeah. Because if. If I was at a wedding and somebody said that, like, I would. I would think about saying something as a joke. Well, like, there'd be.

[Arian]

Have to really. You'd have to know the both sides of the family really well.

[Big T]

Well, no, it would never, like. Don't get me wrong, it's never the right thing to do, even if you know both sides of the family really well. But I would think about it. The intrusive thought would pop in my brain, and then I would be like, please start talking again soon. Please start talking, because if. If it goes on too long, I'm more likely to say something, and it's gonna be stupid, and everyone's gonna hate me, But I'm. I'm right there. You're tempting me. Bucket list to object to a wedding.

[Arian]

Object to a wedding.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Macrodosing Host]

This isn't good for me.

[Guest]

Just make sure they don't say it. Yeah, I want to say it's, like, more traditional weddings. They say it because it's, like, part of a script.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Guest]

But, like, nowadays, like, anybody can get ordained and, like, marry someone, so I don't know if it's, like, part of that, but it is interesting.

[Arian]

What kind of kiss are you going for when you may not kiss the bride? Like, what kind of.

[Macrodosing Host]

That's actually been discussed.

[Arian]

It has to. You got to be on the same page.

[Big T]

I mean, it.

[Arian]

Can't she go for the tongue?

[Macrodosing Host]

I mean, it has to be. It has to be just a nice. In the middle, like, three seconds.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Arian]

Tongue or no tongue?

[Macrodosing Host]

Not like. No, not really. I mean, you're not, like, making out, so.

[Big T]

Not a French kiss.

[Macrodosing Host]

No. But you're not, like, Italian either.

[Arian]

I would lowkey want to make the crowd uncomfortable and just kiss for a minute, but.

[Macrodosing Host]

Well, first of all, that's all they're gonna remember then is, like, these weirdos, they're in love.

[Arian]

They just hitch their lives wagons together. Kiss as long as you want them.

[Macrodosing Host]

I think three to four seconds.

[Arian]

There will be a time where it's like, this is awkward, and that would be funny just to push it to the limits, and everybody's like, hey, yo.

[Macrodosing Host]

Yeah, I'm. I'm not interested in that.

[Big T]

Of course not. Yeah.

[Arian]

Or if I get married, that's what I'm doing.

[Big T]

All right, well, that. That does it for macro dosing. Thank you for tuning in, and we will see you guys next Tuesday. Love you guys.