South African Pastor Predicts The Rapture Is Coming | Sept 23, 2025

Summary

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Macrodosing Podcast Summary

Episode: "South African Pastor Predicts The Rapture Is Coming | Sept 23, 2025"

Hosts: PFT Commenter, Arian Foster, Big T, Mad Dog, and crew
Date: September 23, 2025

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Brief Overview

This episode dives into the viral prophecy claiming the Rapture would occur on September 23, 2025, sparked by a South African pastor and amplified on TikTok. The Macrodosing crew debates Rapture theology, viral apocalypse predictions, religious skepticism, and the cultural fascination with end-times scenarios. Along the way, the group explores sports, pop culture, new political rumors, and field unpredictable but hilarious listener calls. The conversation deftly balances irreverence, genuine curiosity, and deep philosophical questions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Timing of the Rapture (& Why Football Comes First)

• The crew jokes about bad timing for the Rapture during prime sports season:
  • Arian Foster: “You should not have weddings during college football season and you should not have a rapture during college football, NFL, baseball playoff season.” (01:51)
  • Consensus: If the Rapture must happen, couldn't it wait until after The Masters or the Final Four? (02:06, 07:26)
• Rapture discourse is humorously prioritized around major U.S. sporting events.

The Viral Rapture Prediction and TikTok Hysteria

• Big T unpacks the source: a vision, the Feast of Trumpets, tying Jewish holidays and the Book of Daniel to end-times fever.
  • Big T: “There was one guy who said he had a vision … then basically all these people started being like, the Rapture is going to be on Tuesday.” (07:50)
• Social media adds fuel—ranging from apology videos promised by believers, to users prepping “Rapture survival tips” and selling off all possessions.

Theology Deep-Dive: What Is the Rapture, and Who Actually Believes This?

• Detailed breakdown of Christian eschatology (study of end-times):
  • Big T distinguishes between pre-tribulation, mid-tribulation, and post-tribulation Rapture theories, noting evangelical traditions tend toward pre-tribulation belief. (09:38-10:13)
  • Arian Foster: “Why won’t God just do something that makes it so evident?” (11:40)
  • The group debates whether the events described would actually convince skeptics and “would you repent if half the world just disappeared?”
• Discussion on whether people could still be saved during the Tribulation. (13:54-15:00)
• Arian offers a personal, philosophical pushback:
  • “If that’s your version of love, then fuck that. Count me out, I’m out.” (14:53)

Apocalypse Anxiety—Why Do We Keep Predicting the End?

• Hosts reflect on past doomsdays (2012, Y2K) and why each generation thinks "the end" is nigh.
  • “Everyone who’s ever lived on planet Earth has thought … the world is going to end during my lifetime because I’m special.” – PFT (15:25)
• Rapid-fire takes on doomsday prepping, psychological comfort in prepping, and how every current event (like Charlie Kirk’s death) gets sewn into the prophecy narrative.

Critical Debate: The Fairness and Morality of Divine Judgment

• Extended, heated exchange between Arian and Big T on the morality of “God’s plan,” justice, free will, and evidence for faith:
  • Arian Foster: “If somebody can’t empathize with someone who needs real evidence… and then resorts to like, ‘well, you’re dead then’ – that’s crazy to me.” (54:02)
  • Big T: “God’s love is freely offered to anyone. I’ve chosen to accept it. If you don’t, that’s your choice.” (49:55)
  • Debated analogy of God offering salvation like handing out $100, with Arian countering the analogy’s limitations.
  • Discussion on suspending morality and skepticism for religious faith, with both sharing personal perspectives on belief and evidence.
• The exchange is raw, thoughtful, and honest—moving between theology, philosophy, and personal worldview.

Sports, Rule Changes & Cultural Digressions

• The show’s trademark shift to sports: The group debates football rule changes (should forward passes landed behind the line be fumbles?), NFL policies that favor the offense, and the politics of coaches running for Senate (Bruce Pearl rumors).
• Notable debate on the virtues of basements in houses (92:13), porch culture, and regional house design.

Listeners' Calls & Hypotheticals

• Listeners stump the hosts with creative questions:
  • Creating dream QB–WR duos from different eras (e.g., Dan Marino and Tyreek Hill).
  • Whether grilling in your boxers in the backyard is socially/ethically acceptable.
  • Best regional cuisines for life, favorite golf course grass, and more.
  • Arian Foster: “If it’s your house, you can do whatever you want.” (100:20)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Arian Foster, on apocalyptic morality:
  “If that’s your version of love, then fuck that. Count me out, I’m out. I don’t want to be a part of it.” (14:53)

• Big T, on the evangelist’s TikTok prophecy:
  “There was one guy who said he had a vision … all these people started being like, the Rapture is going to be on Tuesday.” (07:50)

• PFT, on why each generation expects doomsday:
  “Everyone who’s ever lived on planet Earth has thought … the world is going to end during my lifetime because I’m special.” (15:25)

• Arian Foster:
  “If you’re willing to murder people because they don’t love you or they didn’t love you with no evidence, like, you’re a psycho fam.” (15:06)

• Debate on God’s justice:
  Arian: “If your friend lies to you, you’ll call him out. If God… even questioning him is out of the question.” (56:38)
  Big T: “It’s not my place to critique whatever the guy who created the universe does.” (58:08)

• Practical apocalypse prep advice:
  “Make sure to go to the bathroom late at night on Monday … don’t know when you’ll get a chance to do it again.” (40:06, PFT)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:51 — Sports calendar vs. bad timing for the Rapture
• 07:50 — TikTok prophecy origins, Rapture prediction details
• 09:38 — Christian end-times theology breakdown
• 11:40-15:00 — Debate: If the Rapture happened, would non-believers instantly repent?
• 15:25 — Why people always predict the apocalypse
• 37:29-54:30 — Long, deep dive: Is divine apocalyptic justice moral?
• 58:08 — Should God be above criticism?
• 91:22 — Southern vs. Northern houses, porches, and basements
• 97:02-100:20 — Backyard boxers etiquette
• 77:02+ — Listener questions: sports duos, grilling attire, and grass types

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Tone and Style

• Irreverent, playful, deeply curious
• Honors the complex, sometimes controversial nature of religious debate, but always detours back into jokes, sports, and tangents.
• The intra-crew tension—especially between Arian (skeptic) and Big T (Christian)—is “tickling your brain” at its best.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode masterfully captures Macrodosing’s trademark mix: topical conspiracy and theology deep-dives, sharp philosophical arguments, sports banter, and unfiltered reactions to viral internet weirdness. The September 23 Rapture prediction sparks a wide-ranging, honest, and highly entertaining interrogation of faith, culture, and why we love end-of-the-world stories. Whether you’re a skeptic, a believer, a sports nut, or just apocalypse-curious, you’ll find your brain tickled, your laugh lines flexed, and plenty to ponder until Thursday.

Transcript

[A]

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[A]

You should not have weddings during college football season and you should not have a rapture during college football NFL baseball playoff season.

[D]

Like that low after. After football season after Super Bowl.

[A]

Yeah, I'd say the the perfect time to have a rapture would be after basketball would be.

[D]

Huh?

[A]

I'd say like late May, mid May.

[D]

Good time to swoop everybody up into the kingdom.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Like let us do the Final four, the Masters. Spring break.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Don't take me for the Masters, man.

[A]

Yeah. After the Masters, I think. I think that'd be fine. Welcome back to nano dosing. It's Tuesday. It's September 23rd. Do you remember the 23rd? Night of September 2025? I know it's 21st.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But I didn't get to sing it yesterday. Got it. Maybe. Maybe the best wedding song of all time.

[B]

Why is that?

[A]

I don't know. It's just a good. Not for, like, the romance of it. I'm saying at the. At the reception.

[D]

Not the 21st. I mean, it's definitely 21st. Not the 23rd.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Oh, you were just. Okay, my bad.

[A]

I know. I just didn't get to say it on Sunday, so I. I wanted to say.

[D]

You're right. My bet.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Hey, do. Do you think my fault?

[A]

Yeah, I do think that it's.

[B]

You think of all the songs you could play at a wedding, that's number one.

[A]

It's. It'.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I love that song.

[A]

What do you have above that?

[B]

I don't know. I've never given this much thought, but that certainly wouldn't have been.

[A]

You better start giving us a thought.

[D]

Might be.

[B]

I guess that's actually true. I have given this some thought, but that's not on my list.

[D]

There another one need to be on your list since you're inviting a black. Should be. Step in the Name of Love by.

[A]

R. Kelly is what it is.

[D]

It's a great wedding song.

[A]

Smart Kelly, huh?

[D]

It is a great wedding song. Holy.

[A]

It still gets played.

[D]

It is what it.

[A]

There's that Bruno Mars song that always gets played.

[D]

Which one's that?

[A]

Up Town Funk it.

[F]

Up.

[A]

Up Town Funk.

[B]

Oh, that would.

[A]

Every band plays that.

[B]

Not allowed.

[A]

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[D]

Right.

[B]

It could be the Saturday of the year for sure.

[A]

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[A]

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Yeah.

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[D]

I feel good, man. Feel great. My brewers clinched the division, so that's a great thing.

[A]

How do you feel about the brewers postseason chances knowing that it might not even happen at all? Because the rapture is scheduled to arrive today on Tuesday.

[D]

You know, that could be my. It could be a. It could be a thing. Because the moment I get into baseball, my team does well, and here comes the rapture. That's kind of when you think about it, but we're just going to pray that that doesn't happen. That'd be ironic.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Can you just hold off till after the World Series?

[A]

God should understand.

[D]

Should.

[A]

If he's a sports ball fan. Yeah. Like if you're a Colts fan right now, this is the absolute worst time for the rapture to happen. Your team's 3. 0 for the first time since you made to the Super Bowl. There's. There's better times. The rat Two things. You should not have weddings during college football season and you should not have a rapture during college football, NFL baseball, playoff season.

[D]

Like that low after, after football season, after Super Bowl.

[A]

Yeah, I'd say the, the perfect time to have a rapture would be after.

[D]

Basketball would be, huh?

[A]

I'd say like late May, mid May.

[D]

Good time to swoop everybody up into the kingdom.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Like let us do the final four, the masters spring break.

[D]

Oh yeah. No, don't take me for the Masters, man.

[A]

Yeah, after the Masters, I think, I think that'd be fine. What do you think, Big T?

[B]

I think a lot of things, but I don't believe in a pre tribulation rapture. So I, I do not believe it will be tomorrow slash today.

[A]

So what is going on right now? Everyone's predicting the Rapture on Tick Tock.

[B]

There was one guy who said he had a vision I my understanding of something about the feast of Trumpets. It's a Jewish holiday and there's some sort of correlation with that. And in seven years there's a. The amount of days perfectly lines up with something from the book of Daniel that talks about the tribulation and how long it's going to be. And it was a whole long convoluted thing. And then basically all these people started being like, the Rapture is going to be on Tuesday. If it is great. I'm not convinced of that, but I guess we will see by the time. Well also I've seen Tuesday and Wednesday. Where? What time zone. That's like I was. Because I was going to say by the time this show comes out, but it's not Tuesday morning. Maybe, maybe it's even. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah. So is it Tuesday anywhere in the world right now?

[E]

It's Tuesday.

[B]

Australia.

[A]

Okay. So the Rapture hasn't happened to them.

[E]

No. And I saw an Australian rapture believer on my TikTok this morning and he said he would make an apology video if there was no rapture.

[A]

Oh, that's huge. Accountability. Love that.

[B]

Well, that was my thing.

[A]

Rapture clearly would be scheduled on Eastern standard Time. Right, Right. In the United States.

[D]

See, I think it would be central.

[B]

Central is the best, but it's just.

[D]

You know, because I'm biased.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I live in central time.

[A]

Yeah. It's wherever you are.

[D]

Jesus coming back. He's coming back on my time.

[A]

Yeah. Wherever the rapture is, whenever it's scheduled, it's going to be convenient for you.

[D]

So the Rapture is when? Okay, does Jesus come down and then Everybody goes back up to heaven with them.

[B]

Is that what the Rapture is, Christians? Yes. But there's a lot of scholarly debate as to whether some don't believe that occurs at all. Some believe that happens prior to the tribulation. I think that's what most like evangelicals believe, which is what they're talking about. Some believe it happens in the middle of the tribulation. The tribulation by the way is a seven year period and in which it's a whole thing. And then some believe it happens at the end. I think there's far more biblical evidence for middle or end than beginning.

[D]

Middle, end of what?

[B]

The tribulation, which is a seven year period in which the Antichrist will be revealed and things like that.

[E]

It's like seven years of bad after the tribulation or after the Rapture for the people who are left behind. Okay, from what I got.

[D]

Yeah, let me get this straight. So the Antichrist will be revealed and then there's a seven year period, I'm guessing of turmoil and stuff.

[B]

Correct.

[D]

And then I guess if like you know, you got seven years to get your together and then at the end of the seven years then Jesus comes back and then the people that believe in him ascend. And the people that don't believe, do they just stay here?

[B]

Well no, it's kind of a two part thing. There's the Rapture and then at the end of the seven years Jesus comes back, establishes a thousand year reign on earth, which is a whole other thing. And then after the end of that is when there will be a new heaven and new earth.

[A]

So.

[D]

So after the seven years there's a thousand year reign with Jesus on earth. Yeah, that's confusing, man.

[B]

I believe eschatology is the study of the end times.

[A]

I believe that's the word eschatology. So what happens to on like a day by day basis to everybody that doesn't get ascended up into heaven on the day of the Rapture?

[B]

I'm not a theologian that's qualified to speak on that. I also, I do. That's part of the reason I don't believe in a pre tribulation rapture is Aryan said this plenty of times. Why won't God just do something that makes it so evident? Right, yeah.

[D]

Damn.

[B]

What?

[D]

I agree. So if smart guy who said that.

[B]

So if 3 billion people disappeared off the face of the planet tomorrow, feel like it'd be pretty clear what it is that would.

[D]

Oh, I said okay. Okay. I would believe there is a force. It would be if it was a. If, if it was predicted in a way that was okay, it's about to come, it would make me. Yeah. Probably more than likely.

[B]

Wait, not if it, like if it just happened out of the blue. You wouldn't.

[D]

Well, because it would. I would still have to, it would still have to be some kind of evidence towards it that, that being the reason shit happens all the time.

[B]

Three billion people just disappearing.

[D]

That doesn't happen all the time. But for sure, yeah. But I would still need. Okay, again, why not just come down and say it?

[A]

Fam.

[D]

What the fuck is all this? Just, just, just either do it or don't do it. I'm kind of tired of it, I guess.

[B]

We'll see.

[A]

So I'm reading that the. During the seven year period, that's when the non believers, they stick around and there's natural disasters, there's political upheaval and widespread persecution of those who become believers. After the Rapture.

[B]

Yes. So that's like mark of the beast, that type deal.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

But then some people think that you will have the opportunity to repent.

[B]

And then that is also a subject of debate. I do believe that.

[A]

So if, if the Rapture happens, Jesus comes down. Okay. All the believers, you're coming with me to heaven. Let's say 2 billion people get taken to heaven. You'd have to be a world class moron to be left behind and to not repent.

[B]

Well, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

Yeah. It seems like an easy way out.

[B]

I kind of agree. I still think there would be people who didn't.

[A]

Yeah. So if you do, if you do the assignment and you turn it in and you get an A and then the people that didn't do the assignment, they get a two week extension.

[B]

Now to be clear, to become a Christian during the tribulation is not an easy proposition, but I do believe that that will be the case.

[A]

Because you're persecuted.

[B]

Yes. And killed.

[A]

And killed. But it still seems like it's an open and shut case.

[B]

I would think so for the most part.

[D]

Let me make a case for the people that wouldn't profess their love and. Because if that is the case. Right. Let's say that happens and the dude, 3 billion people gone off to earth, there's a seven day or seven year period or whatever the case may be, and then there's torture and famine and natural disasters, political upheaval, yada yada yada. I don't want to be a part of that. You're not a good guy in my, In My book. You're a psycho fam. Like, you're insane. If that's your version of love and fuck that, count me out. I'm out. I don't want to be a part of it.

[A]

So at that point, you're letting your own pride get in the way of eternal salvation?

[D]

No, I'm taking a moral stance. If you're willing to murder people for. Because they don't love you or they didn't love you with no evidence, like, you're a psycho famous.

[A]

So there was one guy that started this theory online, right?

[B]

I. I saw it all go back to this one guy. I forget his name.

[A]

Everybody thinks. Everyone who's ever lived on planet Earth has thought to themselves, oh, the world is going to end during my lifetime because I'm special. That's why you get people that are constantly predicting the end of the world, whether it was like, 2012 was a big year for that.

[D]

The Mayan calendar on that one.

[A]

Yeah. The year 2000 was a huge year for that, too.

[B]

Good. Bad movie 2012.

[A]

I don't know that I saw it.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Was that Apocalyptico or whatever? The Mel Gibson.

[B]

No, the movie is called 2012.

[A]

I don't think I saw it. Who is in that?

[B]

It's like a bunch of actors that. You wouldn't know their names, but you'd be like, I've seen that guy. Hang on.

[A]

I'll watch it. As soon as you watch either Ocean's Eleven or Training Day.

[B]

Excuse me for besmirching the name of John Cusack. Who is the main character in that movie? Woody Harrelson. There's more guys in this than I thought. Danny Glover, like Oliver Platt. This is a guy whose name you would never know, but you've been like, I've seen that guy.

[A]

It's a good cast.

[D]

Woody Harrelson is the goat, bro.

[A]

I'm gonna check that out.

[B]

Also, one of those guys.

[D]

Love his. Love his acting.

[A]

Yeah, I'm all in on this.

[B]

But, yeah, it's a bad movie, objectively. But it's good.

[A]

Oh, we have some breaking news, some breaking sports news right now.

[B]

What's that?

[A]

Bruce Pearl is retiring.

[B]

So I. I had heard that this morning. Crazy.

[A]

Is he running for Congress?

[B]

I. Is he. I think he's running for Tommy Tuberville's Senate seat.

[A]

So every. Every person that occupies that seat in perpetuity is going to be a former head coach at Auburn University.

[B]

Seems so.

[A]

Something.

[B]

Now, here's my thing. If you're an Auburn fan, Bruce Pearl has elevated your program to One of the best in the country. You've been to a couple Final Fours.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now he leaves in September. Are you voting for that guy?

[A]

Yeah. That's kind of. That's weird.

[B]

If he in April said, hey, guys, this has been the joy of my life, being able to coach here. I love this university. I do think I want to now. Had Tuberville announced he was stepping down maybe by then.

[A]

Or Tuberville. He doesn't.

[B]

Whatever the case may be, if he did at the end of a season, it was like, I. This has been incredible, but I want to try this next challenge. I think people be like, wow, thank you, coach. You know, go. Go do your thing when you step down in September. Season starts in six weeks.

[A]

Yeah. And his son is going to take over.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Stephen Pearl. Steven don't know much about Stephen Pearl.

[B]

He's been with him for a long time. Well, obviously, he's a son. Coaching with him for a long time.

[A]

It is. It's very strange timing. I agree with you. Tommy Tuberville.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

He'd be out with a. Out to dinner with a recruit, and then he'd get up to use the bathroom, and then he'd be behind a podium being like, I'm running for office.

[B]

They're gonna have to take me out of here in a pinewood box. I believe he said.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Days before he departed.

[A]

It's. It's very funny. So he. I mean, he might win. Bruce Pearl might win that seat.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, if Tommy Tuberville won it.

[A]

Yeah. And he doesn't win a lot of stuff.

[B]

True.

[A]

Yeah. Bruce Pearl probably running for Senate. I guess that's my initial reaction when I saw it.

[B]

Yeah, that's the plan.

[A]

Okay. All right. There you go, Bruce.

[B]

I didn't know that was happening, like, today. I got. Got some wind of that this morning.

[A]

So what's. Yeah. Auburn. This is a bummer for Auburn fans because they. They've been really good at basketball recently, and he didn't really show any signs of stopping. Tennessee legend Bruce Pearl.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Aran, I. I was watching football yesterday. Not to brag, but I had. I had an idea for a rule change. You tell me what you think about it. Big. I want to hear your idea, too. I think that every pass that's thrown behind the line of scrimmage should count as a fumble. If it hits the ground, no bad thing. So if it lands at your running back's feet in the backfield, free ball.

[B]

Hang on. Forward passes.

[A]

Yeah, forward passes.

[B]

So. So if the quarterback scrambles 20 yards backwards is trying to get away from a defender, running back to the line of scrimmage, he throws it and like you just said, it lands his feet. 20 yard forward pass, in that case.

[A]

Where the quarterback sprinted backwards 20 yards and then threw a ball that didn't make it to the line of scrimmage.

[B]

Yes, that's a fumble.

[A]

That would be a fumble, but that would be an outlier.

[D]

So, so if I, so if I, So if I intercept the ball as a defender and I start running backwards and throw a forward, is that a fumble?

[A]

No, that's.

[B]

That's an illegal.

[A]

Illegal for pass.

[D]

I'm trying to establish the rules and the logic of what you're trying to ask here. So now if I, if I, if, if I, if I'm a quarterback, I run back 20 yards, throw it forward in his fumble, can I advance that fumble?

[A]

Yes. Except on fourth down, just making shit up. No, isn't that. There's, There's a. You can't advance a fumble rule that's already in place on fourth downs.

[B]

I thought in the NFL you couldn't, period.

[A]

Yeah, you can.

[D]

You can't advance a fumble.

[A]

You can. You can't intentionally fumble forward.

[D]

Yes, you can't do that. But you said you can't advance a fumble.

[B]

I thought in the NFL that was the rule.

[A]

No, you can.

[D]

I've never heard that rule. Can't advance a fumble.

[B]

I might be wrong. I don't know.

[D]

Are you saying that you can't get a fumble and return it for a touchdown?

[B]

No, the offense.

[D]

No, that's not, that's not true.

[A]

Yeah, the offense, they can. Yes, but you're distracting from the very good and correct rule change that I proposed.

[D]

What, what, what, what prompted this? Did one of your teams do it or something?

[A]

I was just watching Sunday Night Football last night, and there were a couple passes that were thrown. The backfield, they teach the defense anyways. Like, if there's a ball that's close to being a lateral, just treat it like it's a fumble, run up to it, grab it, try to return it. I just think that it would create more chaos and more cool plays, but.

[D]

There'S just no logic to it.

[A]

I think that there's logic to it.

[D]

What is it?

[A]

Just that if you throw the ball short behind the line of scrimmage, you better make sure that your guy catches it.

[D]

That's the logic.

[A]

Yeah. Now if it's, if it's thrown to a running back, hits him off the hands and bounces forward past the line of scrimmage and then hits the ground past the line of scrimmage. That's a normal forward pass, not a fumble.

[B]

I'm only comfortable telling you this because I care about you. This is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

[D]

Why?

[B]

It's so arbitrary and like terrible in most ways.

[A]

Just catch the ball. It would also cut way down on wide receiver screens, which suck.

[D]

Wide receiver scenes.

[A]

Yeah, they sucked. They never work. They're boring.

[B]

I think a well executed screen is one of the most appealing plays to watch in football.

[A]

They're never well executed. And it'd be a very high risk, low reward play if that rule was in place.

[B]

Well, yeah, you could any. You can make anything a high risk, low reward play if you just implement an arbitrary rule. That doesn't make any sense.

[A]

Yeah, I just think that. I think it's a good idea if.

[B]

Passes of over 30 yards were incompletions became fumbles. Those would be very high risk.

[A]

Correct. You wouldn't do it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You would never do it.

[B]

So you can. You could say that for anything.

[A]

But I think it's better to have it behind the line of scrimmage. I think it's a good rule.

[B]

There's already a rule for what you're describing. It's if you throw it backwards.

[A]

I know, but I'm talking about a forward pass.

[B]

Right. Forward passes are inherently not able to be fumbles. That's definitionally what makes them a forward.

[A]

Unless it's behind the line. Scrimmage also would take away a lot of the slow mo replays of. Oh, the. Is the quarterback stand.

[D]

Is it behind the line of scrimmage?

[A]

No. I mean one that would lands behind the line. One that would land behind the line of scrimmage. No.

[B]

Forgive me for not being able to remember. Are you one of the people who rails against touchbacks?

[A]

No, I. That's an unpopular take that I have. I like the touchback rule.

[B]

Okay. Because I was going to say those two things are incompatible.

[A]

Yeah, I like the touchback rule because what's the. What's the.

[D]

What's the.

[A]

Like if you fumble forward, if you're at like the one yard line, the ball goes through the end zone and it goes out of bounds through the end zone. That is a turnover and it becomes the defensive team's ball.

[D]

Yeah. Big T said that a while back when. If a. If a team fumbles and it fumbles out of bounds anywhere, it should be a turnover.

[B]

Correct.

[D]

I agree with that. I agree with that.

[B]

Because the defense did what they were supposed to do and you didn't.

[A]

I like that, too.

[D]

That's a good.

[B]

But I. That's consistent with, like, I. When people complain about touchbacks being turnovers. All fumbles out of bounds should be turnover.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. When was the last time that the NFL made a rule change that benefited the defense?

[B]

Probably.

[D]

Oh, they don't. We're trying to sell tickets, baby. We'll go about that.

[A]

But, you know, solid tickets is. Is turnovers in the backfield that are easily returned.

[B]

So the new kickoff rule, most of the time benefits the offense.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But teams are starting to figure out ways that it could benefit you defensively.

[A]

Yeah, they do the angle kicks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They do the knuckleball that. That Cardi or whatever for the Rams was doing. Yeah, yeah. They. They're starting to figure it out. It looks a little bit less like hell. I still hate it, but still a little bit like hell.

[B]

Take it out.

[A]

Also in the NFL yesterday. I'd like to hear comment from Mad Dog McKenzie. Is Travis okay? Does he have a temper?

[E]

Wait, I didn't see what happened.

[A]

Oh, he got into it with his. With his head coach.

[E]

We have seen that before again.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Then the Super Bowl.

[A]

Yeah. This is. This is a recurring thing. Does he have an anger problem?

[E]

Wait, let me look. I didn't see this. I don't want to comment on something I don't know. I think just when it comes to football, I think he's passionate. I think he's passionate and competitive and one of the best to ever do it.

[A]

So he's passionate and he gets angry when he's doing something that he loves and really cares about.

[E]

Okay, don't do that.

[A]

No, I'm. I'm just trying to make sure that I'm. I'm understanding it.

[E]

Yes. Yes. Is the. Is it the NFL? Fine. Chiefs tight end Travis Kelsey, $14,000 for unsportsmanlike conduct, obscene gestures.

[A]

No, no. This is.

[D]

That was. He did the big.

[E]

No, he was just, like, having a heated discussion with. Yes, it was similar to the other one. Just. I think the other one was more fiery yelling. Yes. This one was, like, relatively.

[A]

It was a heated discussion. In this case, it looks like Andy.

[E]

Okay. Andy kind of bumped him a little.

[A]

Bit his body into him. Because he knew that Travis might try to do that same move against him.

[E]

Which I kind of love. No, I. Okay. I think this is way less crazy than the super bowl one.

[A]

Why is that?

[E]

He.

[D]

I didn't see it. Let me see it.

[E]

Andy, I think, had the same level of heat or a Similar level. They just seem to be impassioned. And I think also if you're the Chiefs, you're probably pretty much pissed at all times right now because you're 02. And at this moment in time, I'm seeing it's five minutes left in the second quarter, and they're only up six. Zero against the new York Giants. So I think it's more of a level of frustration within the team. I would like to think. I don't want to speak for Chiefs fans or Chiefs players, obviously.

[A]

So when things are going bad during hard times, he gets a little emotional.

[E]

But I think emotion works fine. For better or for worse, I think emotion is fine. I don't think if what you're insinuating.

[A]

I'm not insinuating anything.

[E]

I think you're insinuating that he might be loud.

[A]

I just want to see where you stood on this.

[E]

I think that he is allowed to be passionate about his job, of which he gets paid millions of dollars to do, and be one of the best in the world at.

[A]

I agree.

[E]

That is my stance.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

He's not, like, slapping Andy. And also, Andy Reid is. Is impassioned. Right back at him.

[A]

Yep. Yeah.

[E]

I think the. The super bowl one is worse because he, like, startled Andy Reid. Yeah. This one, he's, like, coming like, Andy knows what's going on. I don't want Taylor Swift to be with, like, a pussy.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

I don't think he's doing this with Taylor Swift.

[A]

Well, that would be the Gaylor theory.

[E]

Right? Oh, Carly Claus covering up. Right.

[A]

No, I agree. I mean, these arguments happen sometimes on the sidelines, and Andy seemed to be the one that was angrier than Travis in this situation.

[E]

Right. And it says here. It says here Kelsey has just. At whatever point of the game, this. Kelsey has just two catches for 4 yards, as the Chiefs has. Haven't scored a touchdown in the first half. Yeah, I think that all. It's an amalgamation of all of that rolling into one. Andy Reid's mad. He's mad. Everyone's mad.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

And they're close. Like, I feel like they can have those conversations because he's played for him for so long, so he's, like, earned his right to sort of give it back to him a little bit.

[A]

All right, so it's all good, I think.

[E]

I think we're all good. I think so.

[A]

I just. I mostly just like the Taylor Swift fans that are getting into football for the first time, and they see things like this, like, what's going on.

[E]

Right. Yeah.

[A]

This Is why are these two men yelling at each other?

[E]

Like, why did he hit an old man?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Why did, why did he just chest bump an old man that was his boss? How does that work?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[E]

Does he get fired? Yeah, know, I think he's good. I, I, I, I do fear what Swifties would do. I don't think they've ever, if they, if the Chiefs went Owen three, they'd be in a sort of panic we've never seen before.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

They've never experienced, they've never experienced this. Yeah.

[A]

All right, Good to know.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Can, can we go back to something real quick? Because it's easy to forget now with Bruce Pearl. Derek Dooley is also running for Senate. Can you imagine if 2010 University of Tennessee, their football and basketball coaches were both future U.S. senators.

[A]

That's crazy. If they wanted to get in government, they should be in the sec.

[B]

Yeah. Which one would you rather have as your senator?

[A]

I probably neither. I don't, I don't think that coaches should become politicians.

[B]

Derek Dooley is at least a lawyer.

[A]

Okay, that's good. Bruce Pearl just has opinions. Yeah, that's his main qualification.

[B]

He's a tight guy. He's been given a lot of takes recently.

[A]

Yes. He's a big opinions guy, which is, call me old fashioned. I would like my politicians to be like, experts in government.

[B]

Well, like I said, Derek Duly went to law school before he became a bad football coach.

[A]

I know it's boring to be like, hey, this guy is, he understands how to govern and he has a clear defined set of policies that he's made that will improve life for his constituents.

[B]

So it sounds like you're picking Derek.

[A]

Duly probably without knowing anything about him. Probably. Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That's fair to say. I think Bruce Pearl is a hell of basketball coach.

[B]

What? So if he loses, can he go back? I mean, yeah, but the problem is you lose In November of 26, the season's just starting, so you've got to wait a whole nother year. But then, I mean, he's the number one coach on the market.

[A]

I think you could, you could look at firing your coach mid season, you.

[B]

Know, who could be retiring about that time.

[A]

Interesting. Or his initials, R.B.

[B]

Yes. You get him to I, you get him to stick around maybe one more year after this. Say, coach, listen, give us one more and then we go get the big fella.

[A]

And then the University of Tennessee starts spending money like Haslam starts spending money funding Bruce Pearl's opponent.

[B]

Yeah, no, that would, Bruce Pearl loses. That would Be an effective use of funds.

[A]

But the reality is he'd be going up against a Democrat in the general, and so he's not going to lose that in Alabama.

[B]

Didn't. There was a Democrat in Alabama a few years ago who got really close. Doug Jones. Was that his name?

[A]

H. Was that when he was running against the guy that was banned from the mall?

[B]

I do not know.

[A]

I remember that guy.

[B]

His name was Doug Jones.

[A]

There's a guy who got banned from the mall because he was hitting on, like, teenagers too much.

[B]

Yeah. 2017, special Senate election in Alabama. Oh, forgive me. Doug Jones won.

[A]

Yeah, because that's right. He was going up against the.

[B]

The Roy Moore.

[A]

Yeah, the perv guy.

[B]

So is this guy in the senate? Am I. Oh, he was only in office from 18 to 21, but he was a senator.

[A]

And then Tuberville took over.

[B]

Right, Got it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So Tuberville. Did he beat. Did he beat the Democrat?

[B]

I would assume so. Let me check real quick. I assume that guy didn't go to the Senate for three years, and then. Peace out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Tommy Tuberville beat. Oh, soundly. 60 to 40.

[A]

Yeah. So in a. In an election, not an appointment, the Republican's going to win that scene.

[B]

No, it was a special election between Doug Jones and that Republican. And as you said, he was a creeper.

[A]

They ran maybe the worst candidate ever.

[B]

Yeah, got it.

[A]

Okay. So it's all about if Bruce Pearl wins that primary.

[B]

Yeah. We need him to lose.

[A]

They need him to lose that primary, and then you got to get it back at Tennessee.

[B]

Well, so that could be the other part is if he loses in the primaries, you could have him by next season. So if Rick. If this is Rick's last ride.

[A]

So, yeah, Haslam needs to start funding the other. He needs to get Saban. That's what he has to do.

[B]

To run as a Democrat.

[A]

Pick up the phone. No, no. To run as a Republican.

[B]

Oh, in the primary.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Haslam needs to call Nick Saban and be like, hey, Nick, I want to talk to you. No, don't worry. I'm not asking you coach the Browns. We've been down that road. No, I'm not asking you to take over Tennessee. We're very happy with our head coach in football, but what I'm asking you for is to be your head basketball coach. And if you don't. Or, sorry. What I'm asking you for is to run against Bruce Pearl just so that you'll kick his ass and Bruce Pearl can come to Tennessee.

[B]

I think this is a sound plan.

[A]

I think that's a great plan. Saban wins that seat easily.

[B]

Yeah, easily 100%.

[A]

Doesn't matter what his platform is.

[B]

He's got too good of a job now, though.

[A]

He has a pretty sweet job. Yeah. Just talking about football.

[B]

He's great on tv.

[A]

He is. Okay, what else we got to get into today on nano dosing. Big T.

[B]

Have you seen the Brigitte Macron story?

[A]

Is there an update?

[B]

Yeah, she is set to. Emmanuel Macron and his wife Brigitte are planning to present photographic and scientific evidence to US court to prove Mrs. McCrone is a woman. Their lawyer says the French President and Mrs. McCrone will present the documentation in a defamation suit they've taken against right wing influencer Candace Owens after she promoted her belief that Brigitte McCrone was born male.

[A]

Okay, so the way that this is going to shake out, I'm predicting is going to be she provides evidence that she was born female. And then Candace Owens, her talking point becomes like, if you have to provide proof that you're a female, you've lost.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like making your opponent say, I did not. A pig.

[B]

Right. Sometimes the. The question reveals more than the answer.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

What is the photographic evidence?

[A]

I don't. Maybe a little girl. Maybe her as it.

[B]

But those are. I think.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. So there could be.

[D]

Picture the goods, man.

[A]

So providing like naked pictures of yourself as a child.

[D]

No, I meant now.

[A]

Oh, now.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's like, here's my vagina.

[D]

Here it is, man. Full functioning jj.

[A]

Like video. Do they have kids?

[B]

I don't think so. I've never heard of them.

[A]

If they do, that would probably be the easiest way to say, hey, Candace, she's a female.

[E]

Maybe she's pregnant. They don't have children.

[A]

Here's a video of the childbirth. Yeah. So apparently the McCrones are also.

[E]

Oh, wait, I take that back.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Bridget. Bridgette. How do you say it?

[A]

Bridgette.

[E]

Bridget.

[B]

Brigitte.

[E]

Brigitte does have children with her first husband.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

She has three children.

[D]

That's easy. DNA test. Bam.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And grandchildren.

[A]

Yeah. This should be an open and shut case. So if.

[D]

But no, no, no, no, no. Not really.

[A]

Why?

[D]

Well, it's an open and shut case as to if she's a woman or not. But not open. A showcase as to the defamation lawsuit. Right. That's really hard to prove.

[A]

Right. But in this case, I think they've provided Candace Owens already with a lot of evidence. And then Candace keeps doubling and tripling and quadrupling down on it, like, very publicly. So it seems like this could be an easy one to win and an easy one to get a lot of damages for if they've got the evidence.

[D]

Yeah. I think it would just depend on the jury because you have to prove. You have to prove that she willingly did it and knew that she wasn't a woman. Like, that's hard to prove.

[A]

Right. So when it comes to, like, knowing something, IF. If the MCCs have provided Candace Owens already with a lot of evidence, that is legit evidence, and Candace Owens just keeps coming up with reasons why she doesn't believe the evidence, then I think the jury can look at that and say reasonable people should have looked at the evidence that she had and come to the conclusion that she was indeed a female. But she chose to willfully ignore that evidence in pursuit of her original take. And I don't think that you can do that if you're Candace Owens. I'm not a lawyer, but I think that's what. I think that's how the defamation laws go.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, it would just be contingent on the. The jury and their transvestigation biases.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, if you're Candace Owens, are you, like, nervous about that?

[D]

I wish she was doing, like, fundraisers and. Because it's getting expensive, I would imagine.

[E]

Like, what happens? How much money is she getting sued for?

[A]

I mean, it could be a lot. She. She could go bankrupt and. Yeah, yeah.

[E]

I don't think she. I think she, like, genuinely believes it, though. So I don't think.

[B]

Oh, she 100 believes.

[E]

She's like. I don't think she's worried because she's like, it'll never happen. It's like the Rapture people, they're like, yes, I'm not. I'm not worried. Like, I'm so convinced.

[B]

I saw a couple people on TikTok making videos of them, like, selling all their things. I. I believe they were genuine.

[E]

I've been seeing. So I saw one right before we started recording of a woman who got fired from her job. And she felt like a level. Because of this. She felt like a level of peace. And she was like, well, I don't need a job. I'm going to be raptured. I also saw another woman who was sobbing, crying, and she said she started the video saying, I am an easily persuadable person. And then said, I've been like, I'm an easily persuadable person. And I've been seeing a lot about the rapture on TikTok and was like, how are all of you okay with the Rapture happening and leaving your children and, like, not being with your children? Like, I don't want this to be the last couple days I've spent with, like, I spend with my babies and. And someone was like, do you not think. If you think you're getting raptured, why aren't your kids coming too?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I saw one woman who was giving tips on, like, your travel.

[E]

Oh, the rapture trip tip.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Don't look down.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Mm. She's my favorite.

[D]

Now that would fuck with you. Pft.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh. Does Jesus take that into consideration? People afraid of heights?

[A]

I think he takes away your fear. I think his love is. Is powerful enough to the point where even if you were terrified of being 3,000ft up in the air, you just. You say, I feel comfortable now. I'm in good hands.

[B]

Well, also, how long is it going.

[D]

To take Jesus take the wings.

[A]

Yeah. Is there a commute?

[B]

There were people talking like it's a. Like it's a 20 minute deal.

[A]

Will there be snacks?

[D]

I don't know what kind of snacks. See what kind of snacks are permissible.

[A]

So make sure to go to the bathroom late at night on Monday because you don't know when you're gonna get a chance to do it again.

[E]

The same lady who said, who was saying don't look down also said, pray that you don't get caught on the bathroom or on the toilet. She also said, get, I think it was her, get all new pairs of underwear. Because she doesn't know if Jesus will bring all of us up to heaven with clothes on or not. And if he misses, if he takes your clothes off or like, you know, he strips you of your clothes, you don't want your underwear to be left and your underwear to be dirty.

[A]

I like how in her vision, like, Jesus is undressing her and personally inspecting her underwear.

[B]

So here's my thing.

[E]

No, it's to everyone else be robes up there.

[B]

Like, there was one woman who said God audibly told her, like, the rapture is September 23rd.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And if you believe that, like, okay, but then if that doesn't happen, like, what happens to your faith? Like, if I genuinely believed that God out loud told me that, and then nothing happens, I don't know what I would think.

[A]

You'd have to. You'd have to twist yourself into a little logical pretzel and say, God must have told me that for a reason, to test me, to see what I would do if I heard him.

[B]

I sure.

[A]

And Then I did. I think I passed the test because I did my best.

[B]

Right.

[A]

To educate others and let them know. So now God is looking favorable at me, and the next time he tells me, he'll know that he can trust me and I'll do the right thing.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That might be one of the ways that you get yourself out of it.

[E]

I also have another question, and big T, this may. Because I'm Catholic. This may be more. Maybe this is more of a Baptist thing. I. I don't know. I don't know what. Also, I don't know what sect of Christianity is following this.

[B]

What, the Rapture?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Most of them.

[E]

It's not Catholics. I don't think it's like Catholics and Lutherans. I think it's, like, evangelical more so. But there's like, a pretty clear Bible scripture where it's like, not even Jesus will know the day, the day or the hour.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

So it's like the whole thing is like, not even. Like, God is the only one that will know.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Not even Jesus will know the day and the hour of which he comes back. So it's like.

[B]

But someone tried to say that that actually led to this date because the Feast of Trumpets is called the celebration. No man knows the hour or something because it changes dates with, like, the moon cycle or something. Okay. I'm speaking very out of turn here. I don't.

[E]

Well, it's the Feast of the Trumpets. The Jewish holiday is Rosh Hashanah. And I saw one of them say that Rosh Hashanah or the Feast of Trumpets is the only Jewish holiday that goes along with the moon.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. So it changes.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So they tried to say that. That's what that means. Yeah. I'm not convinced of these claims.

[E]

I just have that that Bible passage is so, like, I remember that from growing up. That Bible passage is so clearly like, you will not know. So I don't understand how we can, like, conspiracy theory the Bible into.

[B]

Well, there are others that say there will be signs. I don't think any of those signs have happened.

[E]

So now I also have.

[D]

What are the signs?

[B]

The coming of the Antichrist, Some markers of the tribulation. I think the tribulation happens first. So I think you will. You'll be pretty well aware.

[E]

I also have a question, and this is not meant to be like. Like, this isn't a demeanor. Does this also have something to do with, like, the. Is the Charlie Kirk thing involved in this at all?

[B]

I'm sure there are people who probably made those Parallels, I don't.

[A]

Yeah, you just take any current event and you tie it into whatever theory you're, you're weaving. Because I saw you're like, hey, here's another data point. Here's another piece of evidence why this is because more people pay attention to it if you do that.

[E]

I saw one person compare the Rapture, something about the apostles of Jesus and how Charlie Kirk being killed. He was a, he was an apostle, a present day apostle is what they were saying. And him getting killed, kicked off the whatever events that the tribulation, like the, the markers of the end of days was because he was a quote unquote apostle. And so him getting killed also is like a marker of that. I didn't know if that because there's been such an uptick in it like the past week. I didn't know if something had to do with him passing away as well.

[A]

No, people just they, they take things that have happened that are in the news, that they see in whether it's their social media or on tv, and then they start to think of a way to connect that with their theory that they've got going and they just make stuff up as they go along.

[E]

Yeah. It is very interesting to watch. I also have seen people like leave. They're like, how I'm prepping my house because it's like I'm leaving these things for people who eventually find my house and break in. I'm leaving Bibles, I'm leaving food, I'm leaving. Like it's just another version of doomsday prepping.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Or this is also very similar to Heaven's Gate, the cult.

[A]

Yeah, but except it's about Jesus like coming from space. Not there's a comet and we'll get taken to that comet. The difference is Jesus was the comet.

[E]

Right.

[A]

With Heaven's Gate.

[E]

Right.

[A]

Space Jesus. Yeah.

[E]

Right. But it's like they're like the people will say that are left that it was aliens. It's not aliens, it's God. Like is. It is so fascinating.

[B]

I am curious, Aryan, what your thoughts would be if this did happen tomorrow.

[A]

He'd be mad.

[D]

He just came back.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Is he talking to me or is he not talking to me? That, that depends.

[B]

What do you mean?

[D]

Are we. Does he speak to me or doesn't.

[B]

Speak to me speak to you? Like if, if the, if the rapture happens, a bunch of people are gone and you're still here. What your thoughts are.

[D]

What would change in my life like as far as, like.

[B]

Well, I think that would Be the, the kickoff to like a very bad period of history. But immediately, I guess, nothing other than, okay, there's 3,4 billion fewer people and we kind of know what happened.

[D]

All right, 3, 4 billion people. We assume Jesus took them. And then now a bunch of natural.

[B]

Disasters are gonna happen eventually. Yeah.

[D]

So what would. I think, I think what a shitty thing to do. So, I mean, there's nothing I can do. I could prep my kids for the natural disasters, I guess try to get to higher ground. Probably Denver. I think Denver would probably be a good place to go.

[B]

But you would be like, angry, it sounds like.

[D]

At Jesus.

[B]

Well, you said it's a shitty thing to do.

[D]

That is a very shitty thing to do. You don't think that's a shitty thing to do?

[B]

Which part?

[D]

Leaving people to die.

[B]

Well, you can still repent.

[D]

But you, but you still leave people to die. Like, oh, I'm unaware of the, of what happens. So he leaves people to die and then gives you how many, how many, how much time?

[B]

The tribulation is seven years.

[D]

And then what's the, what's, what's the criteria in order to get into the, the dance?

[B]

Except Jesus is your Lord and savior and ask him to forgive you for yourself.

[D]

Nah, I'm out. He can have it. It's just not, not a good guy in my opinion. Like, I'm cool. I'll go, I'll go to, I'll go to Denver and I'll, you know, I'll prep for, for all the natural disasters that the loving guy upstairs wants to murder people with. Four Crazy. That's insane though. That is a psychopath. That is insane.

[B]

See, that's actually really interesting to me because you, and I said, I think you said you'd have to be a world class.

[A]

Yeah, because if, if you get left behind for the seven years and all you have to do is be like, I believe in Jesus and oh, by the way, we just saw Jesus come down.

[B]

Some people believe you have to have a water baptism.

[A]

Okay, so. As well, I'll do the water baptism. That'll be my official confirmation. I'll put the water on.

[B]

I think that's a good thing to do. I don't think it's 100% necessary for salvation. But that's a lot that you think.

[D]

That a guy, and this is just a moral question. Do you think that a guy that will condemn 5 billion people to death that didn't believe in him is a good guy?

[A]

No, first of all, he's not condemning them. He's saying I'll give you some time to think it over. Go to your room for a little bit, and I want you to think about what you've done. And when you come out, I want you to explain.

[B]

I'll answer that question. No, I'll answer that question.

[A]

And then you get. Then you get.

[B]

I'll answer that question. Flawed premise as it may be, because it's not. It's not actually true, but I will answer it again. It's not. It's not. The rapture happens. Everyone else dies. That's not what happens. But again, just let me answer your question. God's love is freely offered to anyone. I've chosen to accept it. You have not. That's fine. That's your choice. If I, it would be like, I offer you $100. I say, I'll give $100 to anybody who wants it, but you hate me for whatever reason. You're like, I hate that guy. I'm not going to take his money. And then you go around saying that this guy is, like, not a generous person. Well, he offered you $100. You could have taken it. You chose not to.

[D]

This is a horrible analogy. The more accurate analogy would be you offer me $100, or I heard you offered me $100 from somebody. And I can't corroborate by anybody that you ever existed. I can't corroborate that the money's there. I can't corroborate that the money's going to be in my bank account. And when I say I'm not, I'm not. I don't know if it's dirty money. I don't know. I don't know what's going on. So I just declined because I'm. It's probably nothing. And as soon as it. In your world is a real thing, then I get murdered. That's insane.

[B]

When you said you can't corroborate it. Yes, we do have a whole several books written by people who were around that. I don't know how better to corroborate it than that.

[D]

You would say how better to corrupt.

[B]

You would say, God comes down, makes himself visible.

[D]

Other than unsubstantiated claims of divinity that have been written over thousands of years, you said you don't know a better.

[B]

Way to corroborate short of what you would say, which is obviously not feasible.

[D]

It doesn't hold up to our standards of evidence in today's world or in any other time. As soon as we started the scientific.

[B]

Method, well, you can say the claims of divinity, the works written about Jesus. We have far more written about Jesus than, like, Genghis Khan. We accept everything.

[D]

Probably a guy that was around that time that did some good stuff. There's zero evidence of his divinity.

[B]

Sure, you can say that. That requires faith. I agree with that. But the things that are. We know Jesus existed. We have books written about him that are more reliable than what we have about a lot of historical figures.

[D]

Yeah, but none of those historic figures. My soul doesn't.

[B]

Sure. And. And that's fine. But you. When you were saying, I.

[D]

But just as a moral question is, though, like. Like, how is that the good guy? Like, I don't know that. That is insane to me. That. That y' all can look at him and be like, that's a good person. That's a good entity. That's a good being. Like, I feel like, passion and forgiveness. The passion and forgiveness that Christ speaks of in his words is gone. When it comes to, like, me not believing in him.

[B]

I feel like we've had this conversation before. But the best way I can say it is God cannot be present with sin. Everyone is a sinner. There is no. You can't earn your way to heaven. It is given to you if you choose to accept it. That is grace that is offered to you by God. If you don't accept it, then what is. What is God to do?

[D]

Don't murder people. What?

[B]

You're saying murder people? Like.

[D]

He spent the whole first Testament wiping people out?

[B]

The old one? Yes.

[D]

Murder. Drown babies.

[B]

Well, I thought you were talking specifically about the Tribulation now.

[D]

Same thing. He gonna murder me if I don't believe. Boy's gonna. I don't know. How you gonna do it. He's gonna flood me. Is he gonna fire me? Is he gonna.

[A]

What's he gonna do?

[D]

I don't know. I just. To me, that's not a good guy. To me, a good guy is, like, welcoming, loving, kind, understanding. If. If. If somebody who created the universe can't empathize with somebody who needs evidence, like, real evidence, like, A, if A, Therefore, B, if somebody can't empathize with that, like, and then resorts to like, well, you're dead, then that's just. That's crazy to me.

[B]

We've talked about that before, though. I remember I asked you. There are things that have happened in your life that if you were a believer in God, you would certainly say there's no other explanation for that than God did it. And you agreed with that.

[D]

No, I didn't agree with that.

[B]

I'll have to find the tape. But you did.

[D]

Well, I think the premise is there are, there are, there's a litany, a multitude of circumstances that are probabilistically inconceivable that happen every single day. Us meeting is statistically improbable. Like that is not a miracle by God. That that just happens. Shit happens. I think things happen. And you attributed it to a God is finds your, your choice or whatever. But my notion is, is the morality of it. I think, I think religious people suspend their morality when it comes to their faith. Like your, your, your societal morality goes out the window because of the deity that you believe in. Like you would, you would think it'd be bad if somebody murdered somebody, anybody in any circumstance and majority of circumstances bad to kill people.

[B]

Yes, but I don't agree with your premise that like the tribulation is God murdering people.

[D]

If we don't go, are we going to die?

[B]

Well, you're going to die at some point regardless.

[D]

If we don't go, are we going to die because of this event?

[B]

At some point during. Yes, the world as we know it will end. But you're attributing that to God, whereas it's going to be humans who make all the decisions that lead to that.

[D]

See, and that's to me, that's the fallacy in believing in a deity. You put him in a pedestal right to where there can be no logical fallacy on his end. You forever set up an excuse for him rather than requiring, you don't require of God what you require of your human interactions on a day to day basis. And to me that is backwards.

[B]

Explain.

[D]

Like this is, this is a deity that is all powerful, all knowing, all loving, all this. You should require more from him than you do from your friend. Like if your friend lies to you, if your friend does something to you, you'll call him out on his shit. If, if, if God.

[B]

It is not on me to require anything of God the other way.

[D]

That's what I'm saying. It's, it's been. And this is where the whole the fear of God thing comes in. I don't have that naturally. It's just not in me. So I don't care. So like you hold him up to a standard in which even questioning him is out of the question. Like you know, we don't question him.

[B]

I don't agree with that.

[D]

This is the, you've actually questioned God a thousand percent.

[B]

And it's, it's an, it's an inconceivable. Like, and I use the word inconceivable literally, like, your brain cannot conceive of the notion, first of all, of eternity to begin with. Secondly, that there is a God who exists outside of time, who created the universe and came down as a human. It is literally inconceivable. Of course.

[D]

So it's. So it's inconceivable for you to understand where God is coming from?

[B]

No, I'm saying you would be insane to have never questioned that in your life.

[D]

Got you. And so if. Okay, so have you ever questioned the morality of God? Like, why do you do certain things?

[B]

Sure. But again, that's. Well, since if you accept. If you accept that there is an eternal God who created the universe, it's kind of crazy to, like, listen, if that. If the guy who created the universe, whatever he does, I feel like you. It's not your place to critique.

[D]

That's what. That's my. That's my whole point is he's above approach to y'.

[F]

All.

[D]

Like, and he can do no wrong if something.

[B]

If.

[D]

If something can do no wrong. Right. And. And you see flaws in the universe. Well, then you're saying. Well, then you're saying the logic that I'm using is flawed. And you're saying God is not flawed. And I can't see that if drowning babies to you is a moral thing to do in any circumstance, to me, that's immoral. But you're saying because it's God, he has his ways. You're giving him an infinite out just because of his existence.

[A]

But what if God is saying every baby that died in a flood, they're all in heaven and their spirit is safe and they're happy because I brought everybody up to heaven, and so they are in. In the best possible place right now. Just because their time on earth did not end in a way that was pleasant or kind or benevolent doesn't mean that they're not loved right now and that they're happy right now.

[D]

Yeah, I hear that, and I hear a psychopath. How many murderers have we ever heard say that they're in a better place now? I help them get to the better place. Or mothers that. That were obviously, you know, in some state of psychosis said they heard God saying, bring your children home. Like that? That happens all the time. Not all the time, but that has happened in our past, in human history. We would all call them psycho. But if God said it, then he's not psycho. I believe in any instance, drowning or killing Babies is wrong. I believe that that is wrong. But y' all listen and I say y', all, I don't know PFT's beliefs. I like. He likes to play devil's advocate. But Big T, you saying if God allows it, then therefore it has to be good and then my logic is flawed about killing baby.

[B]

It has to be God's will. You can call it whatever you want to.

[D]

Sure. And this is why I said I think religious people suspend their rationality and I think they suspend their morality when it comes to their belief system.

[B]

But I think you would also agree this all just comes back to, I mean, the most basic premise of do you believe in God or not? I think you would agree with if you believe in God.

[D]

Love to.

[B]

No. Well, just let me finish.

[A]

You.

[B]

I think you would agree logically, if you believe in God, then anything after that is. I'm trying to. I'm trying to figure out how to word this. If you believe God exists, you can't then pick and choose, like which parts of God you like.

[D]

That's not true.

[B]

Oh, well, then we just have a fundamental disagreement of.

[D]

Within your own religion, there's thousands of different sects within Islam. There's different sects within.

[B]

Sure, but those are Catholicism. Those are debates about.

[D]

But you are picking and choosing what part of.

[B]

But you understand what I'm saying?

[D]

No, this is, this is the premise of your. This is the premise of my argument is you Big T, you suspend your, what I would deem your morality on this earth and your. And your rationality on this earth in order to acquiesce to your belief system that I believe has been implanted in you since you was a child. Like, I think. I think there's a little bit of indoctrination that goes on with, you know, theology.

[B]

I will tell you just, just on that point, I did not go to church for a very long time, did not open the Bible for a very long time and have returned to it as an adult.

[D]

No, that's fine. But there's a certain social, like, the majority of people that grow up here are Christian. Majority of people that grow up in India are Hindu. Majority of people that grow up in Middle east are Muslim. It's because there's a certain social pressure, a certain social norm that goes around religiosity. And whether or not you were persuaded either way, we'll leave that to whatever. But what I'm. But what I'm saying is I think you suspend your rationality in any instance. You would always say babies dying Is bad thing in any shit. Y' all fight against abortion because of that same reason. But if God allows it, then it's okay. And then that's where you lose it.

[B]

You're applying a human. That's all I have stayed sure.

[D]

That's all I have.

[B]

But then if you believe in God, you can't apply your things to God.

[D]

And see, if I'm God. See, and this is why I don't think it's very rational to believe in a God. Because if I am God, right, and I have this higher power and I'm this greater creator, I find a way to relate to the people that I internally hold their salvation. I find a way to relate to them, every single one. Now, if you're telling me a book that was an accumulation of hundreds of different authors over a 2000 year period, and then 2000 years later there's a guy who doesn't really think that's plausible to believe that it's true, that's rational. That makes sense. That makes 100% sense. But if, if I, I think, I think if you held the same, your.

[B]

Same.

[D]

Skepticism, because you're a very skeptical person, but you're not when it comes to religion.

[F]

And it just.

[B]

I don't agree, I don't, like I said, I don't agree with that either.

[D]

Yes, you do. You've admitted so you always, you always say it.

[B]

I have come to the conclusion.

[D]

Faith, faith is. This is the suspension of rationality.

[B]

Yes, but I threw a, a long period of time of examining that. I have come to the conclusion that I believe that is true. It's not a what, what you call suspension of. What's the word I'm looking for?

[A]

Disbelief.

[B]

Criticism, I would say is the conclusion to which I have come through years of looking into it.

[A]

All I'm saying is that if the Rapture happened and Jesus revealed himself to be 100% real and everything that was in the Bible was real, and he took everybody up to heaven and he's like, okay, I'm giving you seven years just to say I'm real, I believe in you, and then you can go be in heaven with everyone that you've ever loved, then I'm going to take that offer.

[B]

I think that would be.

[A]

Or you could, or you can spend eternity being punished. If those are my two options, I'm going with the option where I'm happy all the time instead of the option where I'm in excruciating pain all the time for forever. Sure, call me old fashioned.

[D]

Kill me Out.

[A]

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[B]

Yes.

[A]

You sent a map over. Aaron, have you taken a look at this map that he sent?

[D]

I did look at this map.

[A]

It's. We're doing this a lot. I've seen it with the planet Earth. I've seen it with the United States. I've seen it asking about what regional foods you would like. The one that Big T sent over was you can only live and travel within one region of the United States for the rest of your life. Which one are you picking? And so the United States is divided into 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 regions at a conjoining spot that looks to be somewhere in northwest Missouri. And you have to pick which one you would select. I just tweeted this out of which which team would win the super bowl if you made an all star team from each region. I think it's pretty clear.

[B]

Oh, that's not even close.

[A]

It's. It's C, right?

[B]

No, are you. Wait, are you talking about football players, where they're from or the teams. The NFL team, where they're local?

[A]

The NFL teams.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because. Yes. Then you. You're looking at the South.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah, I agree.

[B]

So that gives you Steelers, Eagles, Ravens. That does not give you the Bills. Right?

[A]

It does not. You get Steelers, Eagles, Ravens, Commanders, Bengals, Browns, Colts, Jets, Giants, Patriots.

[B]

I mean, just by a numbers game.

[A]

By numbers game, it's pretty strong. I would say Daniel Jones starting quarterback. So I would take C. Daniel Jones is so good now. It's crazy times.

[D]

Need a little change of scenery, man. But. So this map was originally saying where. If you can only live and travel in this area, which one would you pick? Is that.

[A]

Yep.

[F]

Correct.

[D]

Oh, this is simple for me. H.

[A]

So you're going the mountains, you're going California. It looks like it gets cut off.

[D]

Right before San Diego. It does. I am giving up San Diego, but I am gaining Denver, I'm gaining Vegas, I'm gaining Salt Lake City, and I'm getting. Gaining the Bay Area. It's pretty much all of Cali except for San Diego. I think you get the bottom of la.

[B]

I'm assuming that cuts off at la.

[A]

Yeah, I think you get. I think you get la.

[D]

Yeah, I think I get la. So I'm okay with that, you know, sorry my day go, folks, but there's just not much appealing from my original hometown in New Mexico. Arizona is a desert. Not interested. Top half of Texas. I've never even been there.

[B]

But what's most of Texas and Hawaii. So you just have to stay in Texas forever and then you can vacation.

[A]

In Hawaii, but you don't get Kawhi.

[D]

A part. A part of Hawaii. But why would they put it there? This is like a. I guess Kawhi.

[A]

Belongs to region G, which is the New Mexico region.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. You can, I guess, get one part of Hawaii and Alaska. I'm not really a big fan of. No, I'm sticking with H. H is my. That's me all day.

[A]

I could see. I could see C being not bad.

[B]

It's so clearly D because we see.

[A]

You still get the Outer Banks in North Carolina for a vacation. That's nice.

[B]

D gives you Nashville, Knoxville, all. Pretty much all of North Carolina, South Carolina, Atlanta, Disney World, and all of the Atlantic coast of Florida.

[A]

It looks like it gets cut off before Miami.

[B]

Yeah, right before Miami. But all the rest.

[A]

Yeah, D looks pretty good to me.

[B]

I think some Alabama in there, if that's your thing.

[A]

I think D and H are probably tied for first and then C is decidedly third place. And I also think that most of my, most of my reasoning is just behind like where the best beaches are. Sure, you're gonna need a good beach, but I do like these maps. I like the one of the world that said which, which cuisine. If you could only do a certain type of cuisine for the rest of.

[D]

Your life, what would it be?

[A]

Mine was like Southern America and Central America.

[D]

Send that one.

[A]

So you get southern food and you get Mexican food.

[D]

I'll just look it up.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like you got to go Italy.

[A]

Italy would be good. But they got pizza in the United States too.

[B]

Sure, but do you get to count that? I mean, if it's just what's located in that area, I'm sure there's Mexican restaurants in Italy.

[D]

Like, yo, where's that? I can't find that one.

[B]

This same guy that did the map also released today. Are there more Lego pieces or coins in the United States?

[D]

Lego pieces.

[B]

Oh, see, I think it's easily coins.

[D]

I think it's Lego pieces.

[A]

If you search cuisine map on x.com the Everything app and scroll down a.

[D]

Little bit, you'll see it like you low key getting kicked back for that.

[A]

I'm not. I wish. So if we're taking southern United States and Central America and north South America, you also get Morocco and you also get Portugal and the southern tip of Spain, which is great. That's a huge, huge come up for that region. So you get your paella, you get your shakshuka and then you get everything in the United States, Central America and northern South America and Caribbean.

[D]

Great deal. I gotta go, I gotta go. Where is it? I don't know if it's C or D. Did they cut Japan in half?

[A]

Japan has been cut in half. Yeah.

[D]

Okay, I'm go D. Because that's in the. More like western part. Right. Kyoto is. So I'm go.

[B]

I'm gonna go D. They also cut Sicily off of Italy.

[A]

Yeah, D's D's not bad because you get Japanese food, Chinese food, Indian food.

[D]

Yeah. And kangaroos.

[B]

Who is picking H? H is the northern U. S, Canada and like a little bit of Spain.

[A]

It looks like you get the some of the south of France in that. So you get Spanish, French, you get I guess Chicago style food poutine, which is huge. Moose, you get salmon, king crab.

[D]

Okay, I'm just gonna eat ramen for the rest of my life.

[A]

So it looks like you get New York, too.

[B]

Yeah, I don't hate yours. It's either G or C. C is you get Italy some more of Europe and then China.

[D]

Basically, I'm D all day. Oh, you get Middle Eastern food, too?

[A]

Yep. Some Mediterranean, some. Oh, you get Greek food.

[D]

Yeah. Great.

[A]

Yeah, it's a good region.

[D]

What do they eat in Australia? What is like the.

[A]

A lot of Vegemite. You get the Vegemite. You get. I don't know. They eat, like, American stuff down there. Meat pies. They love meat pies down there.

[D]

Bucket. The meat pie.

[A]

It's a pie with meat in it. You know, like a shepherd's pie.

[D]

Meatloaf. Meatloaf, yeah.

[A]

You ever have shepherd's pie?

[D]

I don't have to look it up.

[A]

It's like chicken pot pie, but you get, like, ground meat, carrots, peas, sometimes mashed potatoes in there.

[D]

Kangaroo meat. I was just joking.

[A]

Yeah. No, they do eat kangaroo. Yeah. Yo, it's not great.

[D]

You've had it.

[A]

I've had it. I've had a kangaroo burger before.

[D]

Oh, man.

[A]

It's a little tough. A little gamey for my taste.

[D]

Like gamey. Like deer. You know, deer could be gaming sometimes.

[A]

Yeah, a little bit. I think there's some similarities there.

[D]

That's crazy. I don't know if I can eat a kangaroo, man.

[A]

Too cute.

[D]

That's just the opposite of what my palate. Not opposite, but it's just foreign to the palette. What my palate has seen in my lifetime. I don't know how I'd take it.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. It's kind of strange. All right, do we have any voicemails today? Veggie Mike, vggy Mike. Before we get to the voicemails that are brought to you by our fantastic, wonderful friends over at Fox one. By the way, shout out to Big t. The big T's hit again this.

[B]

Weekend, three and one.

[A]

So we're three and one on the year.

[B]

We're up 11 units. If I. I don't want to do this to the people. If it doesn't hit the rest of the year, we're up.

[A]

But you can't complain.

[B]

No, we're. Because they only. They've only gotten two.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

So, yeah, we're. We're going to try to keep it rolling.

[A]

I'm 2 and 1 on the year following the big tease. I did not take it week one.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That was my mistake.

[B]

I mean, two and One still two.

[A]

And one still very profitable. I think I'm up about. Would that be about seven units? Yeah, seven units on that bet. Keeping me afloat during college football season. So shout out Big T and also shout out Fox one. On Fox one, you can stream your favorite live sports. So you never miss those did you see that moments. That means Fox NFL Sundays, college football Saturdays, the MLB postseason all in one place. Fox one is built for live edge of your seat plays. Jaw dropping highlights the kind of moments that make you shout in your living room like you're at the stadium. It's sports, it's news, it's entertainment and it's all streaming live sports the way it was meant to be watched. It's also the best way to stay locked in on your action, whether you're sweating if it's your fancy matchup or if you're tracking a parlay that you're sweating out or if you're just riding the chaos live as it happens. Start your 7 day free trial today. Other offers are subject to change. Go to Fox one for complete terms and conditions. Also, Big T, you will be announcing your big tees on Wake Up Barstool on Thursday morning. So if you want to get in on that action, they'll probably change a lot of those lines.

[B]

Yeah, you got to get in a.

[A]

Lot of those odds. Big T is a line mover, so tune in on that. All right, let's do some voicemails.

[F]

Hi guys. Chris here in North Carolina, who do you think? They don't necessarily have to be on the same team or same era, but what do you think which quarterback and which wide receiver would have been a real good duo if they were have played together? Mine is they are on the same team but they don't have to be. But mine is Dan Marino and Tyreek Hill. So he'd minor like Dan might have got a Super bowl. But stay handsome, stay beautiful. Just curious what you guys think.

[B]

I think for this exercise to work best, they do have to be on the same team.

[A]

Yeah, those two would have partied hard together.

[E]

What about Arian with someone else specifically?

[B]

Well, he said receiver but.

[E]

Oh, sorry.

[B]

You could do running back too.

[D]

I could have used a Dan Marino as well.

[A]

Yeah, I mean if you look at the Texans history, Aaron probably played with 60% of all Texans quarterbacks of all time.

[D]

Played a lot of quarterbacks.

[A]

There were a lot of them there. It's a good question. Dan Marino and Tyreek Hill is definitely a good answer.

[D]

And they have to be on the same team.

[E]

They didn't have to be in his voicemail. But you guys said that.

[B]

I think it's better if they are predominant like the team they were with. Predominantly.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, Steve McNair and Chris Johnson would be overdone receivers.

[A]

Never mind.

[B]

You can do running back too.

[A]

Steve McNair and Randy Moss. People forget he was a titan for a year.

[D]

I did forget that.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Stephen Aaron, Andre Johnson that have been. Oh, Andre Johnson and Peyton Manning that have been dope.

[A]

Yeah. The Titans specialize in getting receivers.

[B]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Who did Andre Johnson play for?

[D]

Play for the Colts.

[B]

Really?

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Very briefly forgotten that.

[D]

It's one of those shack in the Celtics jerseys. But it. He did.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

He actually scored. He scored on us that game.

[A]

Let's see.

[D]

I would say have the. Have the Ravens ever had like a top tier number one? So Lamar Jackson, Anquan Bolden. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

They had Steve Smith at the end of his career. They had.

[D]

That's true.

[A]

Odell Beckham for a little bit. They've got DeAndre Hopkins. Right.

[D]

I'm saying like in their prime. Has a prime number one ever been on?

[B]

Probably the best one they've had.

[A]

Yeah, I would agree with that. Tori Holt was pretty good for a little bit.

[B]

Jared Goff and Isaac Bruce.

[A]

Oh, okay. I could say Jared Goff and Calvin Johnson.

[B]

Sure. I would argue Calvin had a better quarterback than him.

[D]

I said Isaac Bruce.

[B]

Yeah, fair enough.

[A]

Yeah. All good points. Although the. The. You just.

[B]

Tory Holt just got me thinking about the Rams.

[A]

The Jared Goff for Matt Stafford trade. Win. Win.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Let's see. It's. It's interesting because when you think of the all time great potential duos, a lot of them did play together, Right. So you're like, oh man, can you imagine Joe Montana throwing a Jerry Rice? That'd be nuts.

[D]

You know who actually.

[B]

Patrick Mahomes. Jerry Rice, I think.

[D]

Okay, yeah, you said who?

[B]

Patrick Mahomes. Jerry Rice.

[D]

Nice. You know who actually probably played with the most with the best quarterbacks in the history of the game? Terrell Owens.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

He's played. He played with Steve Young. He played with Tony Romo. He played with Donovan McNabb. Dog, you had great quarterbacks.

[B]

Hey, please delete that because Jerry Rice didn't play for the Chiefs. There's a quarterback who played for the Chiefs. Who am I thinking of?

[A]

Elvis Gerbach. Joe Montana.

[B]

Montana played for the. When you said Montana and Rice. Yeah, that's my mistake.

[A]

So it was.

[D]

That have been good. That have been good. Patrick Mahomes and Tony Gonzalez.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

That'd be good. So Rice ended up. He went to Seattle and Denver and the Raiders.

[B]

Seattle and Oakland.

[A]

Was he not on. I think he was on Denver for.

[B]

No.

[A]

Are you sure?

[B]

Yep, I'm looking at it. He played until 2004, brother.

[D]

I think he had a thousand yards at like 40.

[B]

Yeah. 2002, he was 40 years old at 1200 yards.

[D]

Yeah. Br. Just crazy.

[A]

Jerry Rice did play for the Denver Broncos.

[B]

Take that back, Big T. I'm looking at his.

[A]

He was on the Broncos at the end of his career.

[B]

He didn't play a game.

[A]

Then on May 25, Rice signed a one year contract with the Denver Broncos. In four preseason games, Rice caught four passes for 24 yards.

[B]

Okay, what about regular season? Never played.

[A]

He played for the Broncos.

[B]

Okay. No, he didn't.

[A]

I. I remember the pictures of Jerry Rice wearing a Denver Broncos uniform.

[D]

Yeah, he was number 19.

[A]

There we go.

[B]

Aryan played college football at the same time that Jerry Rice still played in the NFL.

[A]

Yeah. It's nuts.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Tim Tebow and Shannon Sharp. No, that'd be great.

[D]

That is a great question. I kind of like this one.

[A]

I'm thinking through the all time greats from like the Packers. It's hard to do with the packers too, because all their receivers had good quarterbacks.

[D]

Yeah. Well, they've only had what, three quarterbacks in 60 years.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, they've all had. Yeah.

[A]

To. And I think Troy Aman.

[B]

This would maybe be better for colleges since guys are only there for four years and a quarterback can't be there for 20 years and like play with all these guys. Guys.

[A]

Who would you say is the best Chiefs receiver of all time? Tyreek. Is it Tyreek? Like wide receiver? Dwayne Bow.

[D]

I would say Tyreek's better than Dwayne Bow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Had some great years though.

[A]

Okay, what about, what about Chargers? Chargers had some good receivers.

[D]

I can't think of any right now. David? No. David. No. He was a Cardinals.

[A]

Vincent Jackson. Vincent Jackson is probably Vincent Jackson and. And Justin Herbert would be a good combination. Or Philip Rivers, which he had.

[D]

Oh, they had Kellen Winslow.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

Antonio Gates and. Oh, he played with Philip Rivers, though. Antonio Gates and Dan Fouts.

[A]

Yeah, you could do with the Raiders. You could do Rich Gannon. Devonte Adams.

[D]

I would say Tim Brown's the best receiver of all time for the Raiders.

[A]

Yeah, I think so. Devonte was really, really talented, but he kind of. He checked out after a little bit on the Raiders, as one does.

[D]

Yeah. Fred Belitnikov and Rich Gannon.

[B]

Throwback.

[A]

Oh, I got. I got a good one. Josh Gordon. Jameis Winston.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

For the Browns. How sick would that be?

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

Just go deep all the time to Josh. Just throw it up there.

[D]

Who was the quarterback with Josh Gordon? Was there.

[B]

I mean, take your pick.

[E]

Yeah, there was probably like six or seven.

[B]

Brady Quinn, Brandon Whedon.

[D]

I think Brady Quinn is the one.

[B]

I mean, there's probably five.

[E]

Brady. That stretch was like Brady Quinn, Brandon Whedon, Brian Hoyer.

[A]

Was it Hoyer. Manziel.

[E]

Manziel.

[D]

Hoyer was right before. Because I played with Brian Hoyer. He was a Texas one. Yeah, he was with Texas one year.

[E]

He went to the high school right by my house.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

You could have. What? Kelly Holcomb was a pretty good quarterback for the Browns, right?

[E]

I don't remember him being.

[D]

I thought he was Braylon Edwards. He was nice. He might be the best receiver in Brown's history.

[E]

To Rod Taylor. Also was a Browns quarterback with Gordon. Jason Campbell. It just says on. On Google. It says the Browns quarterbacks who played with Josh Gordon were Whedon, Hoyer, Jason Campbell, and then to Rod Taylor, Jason Campbell. I'm going to be honest, I do not remember Jason Campbell.

[A]

I would love to see Jaden and Santana Moss. That'd be a good combination. Okay, now do colleges.

[B]

I was trying to think like Peyton Manning played with great receivers. I guess you could do like Jalen Hyatt or somebody.

[D]

Robert Meacham.

[B]

Sure. I'm just trying to think SEC teams like Tebow and who's their best receiver that he didn't play with.

[D]

He won't be able to give him the ball.

[A]

That's a fair point.

[B]

He could. He could pass well in college.

[D]

No, he couldn't, bro. This revisionist history is insane about Tebow, dog. Like, great guy. Amazing dude. Amazing. It's just he got carried in college, bro.

[A]

Usc, you could do some good ones. Carson Palmer.

[D]

And.

[A]

Remember how dominant big Mike Williams was, bro.

[D]

I loved. Oh, my God. I loved watching him play, though. I loved watching him play.

[A]

He was so good in college.

[B]

Amon Ra.

[A]

Yeah, that'd be good.

[D]

Yeah. I think Carson Polymer, the best USC quarterback of all time.

[B]

Liner, probably.

[A]

I think Liner was more prolific also. I think Carson Palmer might have played with Mike Williams for one season maybe.

[D]

No, No, I didn't.

[A]

Not in 2002.

[D]

No. I think their first year was 2003, if I'm not mistaken, because that was Reggie. Reggie Bush came 04, so I think he came with Reggie Bush.

[B]

Hang on. This is very easy. Patrick Mahomes. Michael Crabtree.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

That's the one that's going.

[B]

Crabtree in 2007 was just out of this world.

[A]

Yep. Good choice. Who's the best Oklahoma receiver of all time?

[B]

They've had a lot of guys recently.

[A]

Cd.

[B]

Cd. Sterling Shepherd. Hollywood Brown.

[A]

I just looked up.

[B]

Got to have a guy.

[A]

I just looked up. Best Oklahoma wide receiver of all time. One of the first answers from Google is Busta Rhymes. I don't think that's accurate.

[B]

Oh, Ryan Broyles.

[A]

Ryan Broyles was good. Malcolm Kelly was good in college.

[B]

Jared Golf. Tony Gonzalez.

[A]

Yep. I think it's almost easier to do with running backs.

[D]

Running back saying who like a quarterback.

[A]

Yeah. Running back. Quarterback. Carson Palmer. O.J.

[B]

Tebow. Emmett Smith.

[A]

Stopping that Tebow. Emmett Smith. Yeah.

[B]

Peyton Manning. Arian.

[A]

That'd be fun.

[D]

That'd have been fun.

[A]

Yeah. All right, good question. Get the crew together and head off to the course in the new 2024 Chevy Traverse with impressive cargo room, three room seating and the first ever Z71 trim Traverse.

[B]

Can handle your buddies and their golf bags with ease.

[A]

Chevrolet together. Let's drive. Next voice.

[D]

We do that shit within three hours.

[A]

I know. Just naming dudes.

[F]

What up Macro? This is Carson from Toledo. I had a question for Big T, Pft and Arian. So Big T. I just moved from Toledo down to Charlotte and I was wondering since you lived in the south and went up north, what was the biggest difference you saw in houses? One of my co workers asked me was question. I think the first thing that came to mind was a front porch. In the north you don't see a lot of big front porches and window shutters. But obviously I just moved down here so I'm curious of your perspective. Pft. Me and my girlfriend just bought a used cat that we found out is pure, pure pure bread. Russian blue.

[A]

Oh.

[F]

Which I guess is a three thousand dollar cat and we got it for 180. So my question to you is what's the most expensive used dog you sold when you sold used dogs? And then for Aryan. I. I've played golf most of my life. So I was wondering for you moving down south, I started playing on more Bermuda grass. I was wondering what graph you prefer to play on. Bermuda or bent grass? I think I like Bermuda more for the greens but I think I prefer bentgrass and the fairways. But yeah, I've been listening since first episode. Love you guys. What you do. See ya. Thanks.

[A]

Okay. Interesting. All right. Let's talk about houses. I think there's a Very easy. Very easy. Clear.

[D]

What was this question with the houses?

[A]

Biggest thing you notice difference in. In houses around the country.

[B]

You're probably a better person to answer this than I am because I haven't bought a house. I would say when I go in the suburbs around here, everything is like a very. Like the subdivisions, the houses are right next to each other.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like which you do see in the south, but I have yet to see neighborhoods where, like places have big yards.

[A]

You usually have some elbow room.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

If you're in the South. Porches is a good one. People don't really hang out on porches that much in the north, mostly because of the weather. But basements, basements. Nobody had a basement in Texas because I guess either the water table was too high or there would just be like rock that you couldn't dig into.

[D]

Underneath the grounds a lot here.

[A]

Yeah. Floods a lot too. So you go up north, everybody has basements. Basements are the best. I love basements. I did not have a basement growing up, but all my friends that had basements. That's where you hung out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like you get a little bit of privacy. Sometimes the parents can't hear you when you're down there. You can be, you can be loud, you can stay up late. Basements are perfect for the TV room. You want to, you want a big ass tv. Guess what? Maybe the woman of the house thinks, hey, that's a little bit tacky to have a giant TV in the living room. You got the basement huge TV and.

[B]

You want it to be finished, but not all the way finished.

[A]

You like having a little bit of junk down in the basement.

[B]

You want to still be able to tell it's a basement.

[A]

You like the gray drywall with the white.

[B]

Yes. You want to have couches in there and obviously. And like a. Maybe a nice setup. Garage fridge as well. Basement, garage fridge. But you want to be able to still tell it's a basement. It retains its character.

[A]

Do you like the concrete floors?

[B]

Yeah, fine.

[A]

Enough concrete floor in a basement? A little bit. Yeah. Like, not super classy.

[B]

Yeah, it's.

[A]

That's where dudes hang out and we, we burp and we stink down there. We can't have a carpet that just absorbs our odor. But yeah, basements, basements rock.

[B]

What was your question?

[E]

It was, what's the most expensive used dog you ever sold? Or like.

[A]

Yeah, used dog. The Russian blue. By the way, you almost have to flip that cat.

[E]

Yeah, that's. Yeah.

[A]

You buy that? That's a Distressed asset right there. You buy the cat for 150, flip it for two grand, now you got a little business going. The most expensive used dog I sold, there were a couple that I, I suspected of being pure breed dogs. There was, there were a few Australian cattle dogs that were very, very smart that already clearly knew tricks and like how to herd. I imagine that useful dogs like that, if you found the right buyer like a farmer, that, that could make you some money right there. I also think greyhounds, I got a couple greyhounds adopted and they were very fast dogs. Some of them were former racing dogs. So I guess, my guess is that they're probably worth more because then you can breed more racing dogs if you want to with them. Yeah, those would probably be my, my two didn't have that many top of the line dogs. They were just, they're well loved used dogs that came in. We're just mostly trying to find somebody that needed a dog to get back and forth. Functional dog like a. If you're just trying to find a car for your 16 year old child, like I'll take, I'll take a nice easygoing Pomeranian rat terrier mix. One that doesn't poop too big, please.

[E]

And then Aryan, about the Bermuda grass or something. Oh, what grass do you like to call golf?

[D]

Yeah, I, I think I prefer Bermuda as well. I've only golfed in like three or four different grasses. I golf a lot in Texas because I live here. I forget what's the other one that I golfed in. I forget it was in New York. I could just look it up like. But yeah, I mean I'm not too bad for like that matters around the greens more than it does like fairways and I guess rough does too. But yeah, I mean I'm, I'm, I'm good at golf. I ain't like the best, so it's like I'm not gonna spin my wedges dependent on the grass dog, you know, it is what it is.

[A]

So what, what's the difference between Bermuda and bentgrass?

[D]

I don't, I've never played bent grass. I, I don't know enough about grass to be honest. Wayne. What? Let me see. Because I played in. Oh, I guess I did. I played at Wingfoot and I was trying to say I was in New York and. And they said grass. The grass at Wingfoot is a blend of poa, anua and bent grass. And I like that grass. So I guess I have played a big grass. Yeah, I don't know, man. There's how many different type of grasses out there that you use a golf course? It's like, I don't.

[A]

I think those are the two big ones.

[D]

That's like the one like when you start, when that starts mattering in your game, that's when I feel like you've arrived as a golfer. But right as of right now, that don't matter to me. Trying to make good contact, solid swings, that's all.

[B]

Golf season is in full swing and.

[A]

Getting out there to work on your.

[B]

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[A]

All right, good questions.

[F]

Hey, this is Phil from Northeast Indiana. Should I have to wear pants in my backyard? I wear boxers. I'm out in my grilling area where none of my direct neighbors without doing a little bit of exercise can see me grilling in my boxers. Should I have to put pants on even though I live in a cul de sac? Talk to you later.

[A]

This is a fair question.

[D]

I don't think you should have to.

[A]

In your own backyard. What's the privacy situation? How high are the fences?

[D]

I don't think it matters. Boxes are like swim trunks.

[B]

I feel that my beliefs generally are at odds with my belief in this matter.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because I believe it's your property.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

You should be able to do whatever you want. However, I do believe the barrier of putting on a pair of shorts is low enough that maybe you should be compelled to do that. Yeah, I do. I do think how many people can see matters and how easily can they see?

[A]

I agree. I think that if you have like a chain link fence and your neighbors are very close. It also depends on the boxers. Not all boxers are created equal.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

Is there a button on the fly or some sort of fastening mechanism?

[B]

How tight are they?

[A]

How tight are the boxers? How long are the boxers? Are they boxer briefs?

[B]

It is for that reason, since we can't determine that. You just have to wear a pair of shorts.

[A]

But you don't have to wear underwear. I suppose not Just like a pair of athletic shorts. Totally fine.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But if you have boxer. That's what I'm saying. If you have boxers that are like.

[B]

Loose fitting boxers, there are some boxers that would be acceptable, but we don't know what kind they are. So we have to make a judgment. As if.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And I don't like that I had to come to that conclusion.

[A]

It's sad. It's sad. Like, when I have a roof that some of my neighbors can see onto from their roofs. When I go up there, I don't always have a shirt on, but I always have shorts on. Does that make sense?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. It's like, I. I don't think that my neighbors want to see people walking around in their underwear. I wouldn't want to see that. So I take the half a second to put on whatever pair of shorts is closest to me. Now, if you're in a situation where you have good privacy fences, you're in your backyard. Neighbors can't see into your backyard unless they, like, line up, climb up on a ladder, and look over. You don't have to wear anything if you don't want. Go sunbathe nude. If they fly a drone over your house, that's. That's their problem. Right?

[B]

I guess.

[A]

You. You disagree?

[B]

No, I. I don't know.

[A]

If no one can see into your backyard, then, yeah, you can do whatever you want back there.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Okay. All right. Aaron, do you agree?

[D]

I think. I think if it's your house, you.

[F]

Can do whatever you want.

[A]

Underwear in the backyard is a yes from you.

[D]

You want to do your thing, man.

[A]

What if your neighbors can see you?

[D]

Close your eyes.

[A]

Okay. All right, Good talk. Today was macrodosing, and we will see you guys on Thursday. Aaron, you're not going to be here, correct?

[D]

I will not. I will be at the kingdom, not. Not the rapture, but, like, you know, tailor made.

[A]

Oh, nice.

[D]

Yeah. So I'm going to get fitted, like, at the. At the place.

[A]

I love that for you.

[D]

Excited about that. So I'll be in a different kingdom than Big T and everybody else?

[A]

Well.

[B]

I wouldn't count on it, but we'll see.

[A]

We are going to miss you, Aaron.

[D]

I miss you too, man.

[A]

But we are going to have Nick Tyranny on the podcast on Thursday.

[D]

Oh, you would?

[A]

You have a fun time with your little golf outing.

[D]

Okay, man. We're coming out with a series called Her Huddle soon.

[A]

We're getting Nick and actually T. Bob is going to be on on Thursday. We're going to talk about the Donner party and cannibalism just in general, so it should be a good episode. Excited for it. Aaron, we're excited to have you back, but enjoy your club fitting.

[D]

I will do that, my brother.

[A]

Love you guys.

[F]

Sam.