Spirit Airlines Officially Closes Its Doors | May 5, 2026

Summary

Macrodosing Podcast Summary

Episode: Spirit Airlines Officially Closes Its Doors
Date: May 5, 2026
Hosts: Arian Foster, Big T, Maddie, Mac
Podcast: Macrodosing (Barstool Sports)

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Overview

This episode covers a wide range of comedic and thought-provoking topics, with a primary focus on Spirit Airlines closing down and the larger landscape of modern air travel. Alongside, the hosts digress into personal anecdotes, conspiracy theories, deep dives on odds in sports raffles, generational transitions, animal ethics, the state of comedy and music, and listener voicemails about college sports and wedding songs. The tone is a blend of irreverent humor, nostalgic reflection, and philosophical musings.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Opening Banter: Dogs, Aging, and Existential Dread

[00:00 – 10:54]

• Arian recounts his stressful morning: Dog gets hit by a car, escapes via gate—funny and harrowing pet owner challenges.
• Big T on pet ownership: “It’s not a lot of upside so far for this dog venture of mine… He got me on the ropes right now, though, Big T. I promise.” (05:06)
• Birthday celebrations: Maddie’s parents surprise her for her birthday; Big T turns 30, reflects on adulthood transition:

  “I think 29 to like, 33 is older than 34 to 37. ... Once you break through that barrier of 30 and your very early 30s, then you’re kind of a young, like, real adult again. Right now I’m an old, young adult." (08:14)

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2. The Colorado Rockies 50/50 Raffle Conspiracy

[10:54 – 19:52]

• Big T’s Weekend: Bachelor party in Denver, playing golf, attending Braves vs. Rockies games.
• Raffle Theory: Big T and friends suspect Colorado Rockies' 50/50 raffle is rigged; “990” ticket prefix wins 28% of the time.

  “Three nights in a row, 990. ... It seems like this is a specific—there’s no way 990 just shows up 28% of the time by random." (15:46)

• Possibilities: Online ticket buyers prioritized, in-person tickets sequential; team potentially saves money if online winners never check.
• No clear conclusion—more data needed—but raises eyebrows about stadium raffles.

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3. Hat Collection & Hoarding

[19:00 – 20:12]

• Playful debate over who owns more hats, leading to light self-examination of collecting habits.

• “Now at this point, there’s a ton that I just never wear, but I still want new ones ... you can’t justify it, but I’m gonna do it anyway.” (19:38)

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4. Pro Sports Contracts & Tax Bracket Myths

[20:17 – 22:44]

• Kelsey Plum’s contract: $999,999, intentionally under $1 million due to misunderstanding of tax law.

• “Kelsey Plum was under the impression that if she made one more dollar she would pay $13,000 more dollars in taxes. ... That’s not how that works.” (21:04)

• Explores widespread misconceptions about taxes among pro athletes; Arian notes poor industry financial education.

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5. NBA Chat & LeBron’s Leadership

[25:08 – 26:41]

• Brief NBA playoff preview; anticipation for LeBron’s performance under pressure.
• Old school preferences versus today's “team player” mentality.

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6. Wild Airplane News: Newark Crash & Spirit Airlines' Demise

[26:41 – 36:22]

A. Newark Plane Crash

• Truck is struck by plane at Newark; driver survives—hosts riff on lawsuit potential.

  “If I ever wanted something to happen to me... it might be that: a non life-threatening injury from being struck by a plane. ... All bloodline related to me is getting free flights for the rest of my life.” (28:15)

• Mark Cuban’s $125,000 lifetime flight pass—highlighting rare airline perks.

B. Spirit Airlines Closes Down

• Spirit declares bankruptcy after failed bailout plea—implications for low-income travelers.

• Air travel affordability, nickel-and-dime tactics, and comfort in coach dissected:

  “I think all—I don’t think there should ever be three seats in a row. ... Let your customers be comfortable, bro.” (33:57)

• First-class and transcontinental pod stories; Korean Air and Asian fried chicken restaurant digression.

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7. Thermos Injury Recall & Brand Confusion

[36:22 – 38:49]

• Discussion of thermos bottle recall: forceful ejection causing injuries.
• Lighthearted responses:

  “I will laugh at this ... Let me practice. I’m trying to practice more kindness in my life.” (38:09)

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8. Star Wars vs. Star Trek, Generational Fandom & Aging

[39:02 – 47:00]

• May the 4th, Star Wars Day origins: Generational debate on when it became a “thing.”

  “...it became Disney made it much, much bigger.” (43:13)

• Arian defends Star Trek's depth over Star Wars’ pop appeal, laments aging of Patrick Stewart.
• Psychology of not finishing a beloved series:

  “I haven’t watched the last two or three episodes ... because I don’t want it to end in my head. I love it that much.” (46:21)

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9. The Death of Comedy, Viral Music, and Artistic Decline

[48:45 – 52:43]

• Modern comedies’ disappearance due to lack of profitable DVDs (Matt Damon anecdote).

• “Money ruins art. It turns it into a commodity ... How can I go viral? ... Instead of focusing on the craft.” (50:01)

• TikTok’s effect on music: record labels now engineer virality via influencer marketing.

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10. Top 100 Songs Debate

[52:50 – 57:24]

• Arian’s genre-spanning list includes "Redbone," "Everybody Wants to Rule the World," "Wonderwall," "Billie Jean," "Crazy," "September," "Thriller," "Smooth Operator," etc.

• “I love Caucasity in my music. ... I love the white music I grew up with.” (55:03)

• Lyrical analysis and music’s emotional effect explored.

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11. Gratefulness, Death, and Nihilism

[57:50 – 61:18]

• Big T’s existential moments during joyful times—discussing Alan Watts, nihilism, and how death sharpens gratitude:

  “If death didn’t happen, you wouldn’t be so appreciative of life. ... Nihilism isn’t despair—it’s realization.” (59:20)

• Philosophical musings on appreciating fleeting moments and accepting impermanence.

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12. Kentucky Derby, Animal Consciousness, and Ethics

[61:37 – 70:38]

• Horse racing sympathy, Kentucky Derby drama, and ethical treatment versus human athletes.

• “There’s never been an animal in human history that we’ve observed that asks ‘Why?’ ... Maybe dolphins.” (66:22)

• Dog obedience, Pavlovian conditioning, and the sadness of controlling animal freedom.

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13. Veganism, Chicken Wings & Best Fried Chicken

[69:06 – 72:59]

• Arian on being vegan for ethical and health reasons; climate impacts of factory farming.
• Best (fried) chicken? Korean/Asian restaurants named as secret standouts:

  “Korean fried chicken. Absolutely.” (71:51)

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14. Listener Voicemails

A. College Football Governance & Transfers

[74:19 – 85:27]

• Discusses Trump’s executive order on college athletics, NCAA reforms, and a hypothetical ideal governing body—emphasis on contracts, unionizing athletes, and true labor market freedom:

  “We’re still avoiding the main conversation: they are workers, and this is a business.” (84:01)

B. Wedding Song Recommendations

[86:11 – 94:13]

• Suggestions for mother-son dance songs: focus on sentimental connections over popularity; Neon Moon gets multiple shout-outs.

• “A mother’s son dance should have some kind of connection to the song for you guys.” (87:08)

• Fun wedding planning banter: must-play and can’t-play DJ song lists (Bruno Mars and Pharrell’s “Happy” banned by Big T).

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15. Closing Banter

[96:16 – 98:22]

• Big T and Maddie trade throat-soothing tips.
• Plans for the wedding, DJ song requests, and excitement for the future.
• Goofing on future episode ideas:

  “Let’s get somebody blind on ... see what they feel about her [Helen Keller] representation.” (97:22)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On adulthood:
  “Now you’re a real adult, but you’re young again.” —Host 1 (08:41)
• On the Rockies raffle:
  “990 also appears when the jackpot is larger than usual ... all I’m left to do is speculate.” —Host 1 (13:08)
• On tax misconceptions:
  “If you make the extra dollar ... you’re not getting taxed at a million percent on that dollar.” —Host 1 (21:02)
• On pop culture:
  “Comedy died. Legalize comedy, man!” —Big T (49:21)
• On music:
  “I love Caucasity in my music ... I love the white music I grew up with.” —Big T (55:03)
• On existential gratitude:
  “You had a snapshot into my worldview right there, Big T. That made me happy.” —Arian (60:50)

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Timestamps for Major Topics

• Pet woes & birthdays: 00:00–10:54
• Raffle conspiracy: 10:54–19:52
• Hat collection: 19:00–20:12
• Tax myth/Kelsey Plum: 20:17–22:44
• NBA/LeBron talk: 25:08–26:41
• Plane crash/Spirit Airlines: 26:41–36:22
• Thermos ejection/recall: 36:22–38:49
• Star Wars/Trek debate: 39:02–47:00
• Comedy/music/virality: 48:45–52:43
• Top 100 songs: 52:50–57:24
• Existential musings: 57:50–61:18
• Kentucky Derby/animal ethics: 61:37–70:38
• Veganism/chicken: 69:06–72:59
• Voicemails (sports): 74:19–85:27
• Voicemails (weddings): 86:11–94:13

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Tone & Style

The hosts maintain a balance between sharp wit, unfiltered opinions, pop-culture savvy, and genuine curiosity. The conversations flow with random but meaningful tangents, in keeping with the show’s tagline of “tickling your brain.” Dialogue is peppered with unvarnished, sometimes irreverent humor, yet often circles back to big-picture societal questions, be they about sports, art, or the fleeting nature of life.

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For listeners and non-listeners alike, this episode is a winding mix of cathartic venting, pop analyses, and friendly debates—anchored by the topical hook of Spirit Airlines’ closure, but really, a classic freewheeling, Macrodosing ride.

Transcript

[Host 1]

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[Big T]

Yes, sir.

[Host 1]

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[Big T]

Welcome back. Welcome back. It's been a motherfucking morning for your boy. Welcome to the Macrodos Pause NANO Dosing. Shit. PRT's out. Me and Big T, Maddie and Mac. What is today? Tuesday the 5th. I hope your guys morning start out better than mine because Holy man started out great and this dog of mine that y' all convinced me to get,

[Host 1]

I feel like we, we've had updates on the dog but on the show it may have been a minute since there's been an update on him.

[Big T]

It's been, it's been a minute. So let me, let me bring people up to speed. He has been a tornado and he, we got him trained and it's just, his breed is very just they don't care about anything, man. So like he'll listen but like sometimes he won't. And, and so it's just hard because he, he thinks he's small but he's big as right. So he has the puppy mind but like a grownup body and he's just huge and he just ramsacks things when he's excited and it's not his fault. This you Know that's how puppies are. Are. But it's been cool, it's been chill. And then the other day, my man's got hit by a car. And so that was. That was wild. How did it happen, you ask? Well, let me tell you how it happened, because he's so rambunctious. So the way my house is set up, I got a gate in a garage door gate, like where you bring your cars in. And so I open that gate, but I park outside because I wanted to leave my car outside. So I closed the gate behind me. It's electric and it's very quiet. And then where's my back door is. You can't see the gate. And so as he sees me, he's like, all excited and he jumps on me, he's jumping on me, and I'm like, yo, down. Yo, down. And as he's doing that, the clicker's in my pocket, and the clicker. And he. He hit the clicker in my pocket. I later looked at the security footage to see what happened, because I know I closed the gate and I did, and he. And as soon as he jumps on me, it hits the. The clicker in my pocket. Gate opens up. I can't hear it or see it. It's very, very good gate, very quiet gate. And when I close the door, he's still outside. He kind of wanders for a second, sees that the gate is open, depths, and usually he doesn't stray too far. So I'm thinking it happened like, somewhere, like, in a. Like, close, Very close proximity. But anyway, security come back. I mean, he comes back, we look at the security footage and he's bloody, he's limping, he's got scrapes all on his hind legs, tail all scraped up, patches everywhere. They fucked him up, so we took him to the vet, Er, they patched him up. He's walking around with a. You know. You know, dogs got the cones on it. So he's got a cone on his head right now and everything's cool. And then this morning, you know, so we've been nursing him back to hell for, like, three, four days. And then this morning, I go to take my daughter to school, I put him in his cage and I. I think I told y' all before, he can open doors. Like, he knows how to, like, hit the thing and open the doors. I think he's figured out how to open his cage. I don't know how, but I locked that thing. And I come back, my cleaning lady's in here, but he has ramsacked my room, the living room. It's a lot, man. It's a light pee on my floor.

[Host 1]

It's.

[Big T]

It's not a lot of upside so far for this dog venture of mine, but I'm. I'm in. I'm hanging in there, fighting. He got me on the ropes right now, though, Big T. I promise. He got me on the ropes, though. You.

[Host 1]

You might not be thrilled with him right now, but you still love him.

[Big T]

What is love? You know, we've been trying to figure it out for thousands of years. What is that?

[Host 1]

Sure, he did the car that hit him not say anything or try to come find you.

[Big T]

That's the crazy part. Like, I'm. I'm not even a dog person, like, right? So. But if I hit a dog, I'm gonna make sure he's all right, though. Cause I'm not. Like, I. Like, I slow down for squirrels in a golf cart. Like, I'm not trying to kill no animals, bro. You know, I might come off like an asshole and, like, insensitive to animals. I don't really care about him, but I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna hurt him, dog. And if I do hurt him, I will feel bad. Like, I do have a heart. So that's what's crazy to me is, like, somebody hit him and just was like, fuck it, I'm out. Like. Cause I know. Cause the way he was running back, he. It looks like he got hit and came directly back to the house. So I don't know.

[Host 1]

That's gotta be illegal, right? Like, if he'd have died and they just hit and killed a dog and then ran off like that. Ha. That can't be legal.

[Big T]

No, I'm pretty sure you can't kill dogs.

[Host 1]

Well, I know. That's what I'm saying. So, like, I don't think you can hit and run, just period.

[Big T]

Yeah, well, there's a criminal out on the loose in my suburban neighborhood, so I'm gonna be on.

[Host 1]

Sounds like it.

[Big T]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna put up posters on a. On a. On all the light poles and. But ironically, I'm listening to Alan Watts on the way to take my daughter to school. And it's just this beautiful message of, like, his whole. His whole message was like, nothing matters. And how. That's a beautiful thing. It's. It's. It's like this. He brilliantly and eloquently describes how once you let go of the illusion of control of your life and taking life so seriously, everything Just falls into place and. And life just. Life just happens and nothing. Just beautiful ass day. And I come home, this thing up my. My house. She went right out the window. God damn. Anywho, man, that's my morning. Hope everybody morning is a little better. Better than that. How's everybody tap in, man? How's y' all weekend, man?

[Guest 1]

Good. Mackenzie and I had fun.

[Host 1]

Was Mad Dog's birthday.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah. Happy birthday, man.

[Guest 1]

Thank you. My mother and my father surprised me, their presence.

[Big T]

Oh, okay.

[Guest 1]

So that was lovely. And then an undisclosed day that we are recording, this is also Big T's birthday.

[Big T]

Wait, today your birthday?

[Host 1]

That's what they say. I don't.

[Big T]

Happy birthday, dogs. Hey, happy birthday, man. Are you 29?

[Host 1]

30.

[Big T]

29. 29 old. As though. Yeah, Damn.

[Host 1]

I actually think. I think 29 to like, 33 is older than, like, 34 to 37. I think once you break through that barrier of like, 30 and you're very early 30s, then you're kind of a young, like, real adult again. I think right now I'm an old, young adult.

[Big T]

That actually makes sense. It tracks. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

[Host 1]

Like, I'm too old to be young, but I'm not, you know, into my 30s yet. But then once you're like, 34, 35, now you're a real adult, but you're young again. Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah. That's a great way to put that, actually. Yeah, it's. Yeah.

[Host 1]

So I just gotta power through these next couple years.

[Big T]

Yeah, this is the transition stage to, like. Okay, I'm not a child anymore. Yeah. I'm an adult. Like, I gotta, you know, file taxes and shit. You know, you gotta do, like, adult shit. But. Yeah, this is. Yeah. You know, happy transition, man. You about to be.

[Host 1]

Well, well, well, easy.

[Big T]

I mean, not transition, a life. I'm just saying, like, you know, from younghood to adulthood. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. This is. This is the next step. In these next three or four years, you're gonna. You're gonna find your lane. Yeah. You're gonna find, you know, I mean, wedding next month.

[Host 1]

Wedding.

[Big T]

Oh, you doing. You doing a whole lot going on this summer,

[Host 1]

but. Yeah, this weekend was my bachelor party, as you can probably hear in my voice.

[Big T]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 1]

That air out in Denver, man, I didn't. I wasn't screaming or anything. The air out there just does a number on you. My lips were more chapped than they've ever been in my entire life. I mean, just. And my nose felt. It's something about the air. Out there. I don't like it. I did. I loved Colorado.

[Big T]

Colorado.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Amazing. What the.

[Big T]

What the. What the weather was like Friday.

[Host 1]

It was a little chilly. Saturday was perfect. It was like 70 the whole day. Played golf. Went to the Braves, Rockies games both nights.

[Caller]

Great.

[Big T]

Nice little weekend. How was. How was. How was your golf outing?

[Host 1]

Poor, but great. Great time. It was one of my buddies, like, the first time he'd ever played golf, and he had two incredible putts, like 15ft, probably. So, yeah, we had a good time. I do have. I guess we can get into this now. Arian, I don't know if you looked over the PDF I sent you.

[Big T]

I have. Not yet.

[Host 1]

But as I'm wearing a Colorado Rockies hat, Beautiful ballpark. Coors Field, by the way. We need to go out there at some point. High on my list

[Big T]

because it was. It was like the last team in the league last year. One day, are they.

[Host 1]

They're still bad, but they're not like that. Like, last year, they were the worst team of all time. So my friends and I, as are some other people at this company, big fans of the 5050 raffle. You're familiar with that, right?

[Big T]

Yeah, y' all put me on in Milwaukee.

[Host 1]

That's right. So, yeah, you buy the tickets, whatever the jackpot is. The team, like, charity gets half, and then you win half. So Friday night, we buy a bunch of 50, 50 raffle tickets. They're like. They'll. They'll announce it in the eighth inning. Eighth inning comes around. Our tickets were like, the number started with, like, 300 or 400 because we bought them before the game. Number comes up. It's like nine, nine zero, something. So we were like, man, they gave it to, like, the last person that bought a ticket. Like, that seems weird. Saturday night, they had a special on the 5050 raffle tickets. We bought so many. And the jackpot was pretty low. Based on what we estimated the average spend of someone who bought tickets to be. We calculated that we might have had 10% of the tickets in the whole ballpark. They run it again in the eighth inning. 990. Right. That's really weird.

[Big T]

So not very likely. Odds are pretty low.

[Host 1]

So then we went. Lucky for us, the. The winning 5050 raffle numbers for the Colorado Rockies are public. Because you have to. I guess you could. Well, we'll get into this later. You don't even have to be at the ballpark to buy a ticket, which is interesting. So, by the way, Sunday, get back yesterday, watching the game on TV, go to check the winning raffle number in the eighth inning. You want to guess what it started with? 9990. All three days. So then my friends and I put all this information into some, some AI and we ran a little analysis on this deal.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Host 1]

Yeah, we have data from August 2024 until May of 2026. We have 120 back with it.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Host 1]

Oh yeah, we have 121 games. Of the 5050 raffle. The 990 prefix appears in 34. Of the 121 winning raffle numbers, 28% appears to be far more than random. There's some other numbers here. 990 also appears when the jackpot is larger than usual. So I have two hypotheses. One less nefarious than the other. The, the less nefarious one is the nine nine zero is like a method of buying tickets. And I think it's online. So I think what they might be doing is picking people who buy the tickets online rather than in person because they know if you buy it in person, you're in the ballpark. You're looking for the number. If you buy it online, you may have left the game early and you just forget to check it, whatever. You may not even be at the game. You may just buy, you can just buy it if you're in Colorado. So. And then you don't check it, whatever. And then they don't have to pay out. The thing if someone just forgets the other is they know who's buying those and it's them.

[Big T]

In your, in your analytical, you know, in your analysis, did you correlate anything to all of the winners? Did you see who all the winners were? Was there any kind of you.

[Host 1]

You can't see who won. You just know the number. Ah, okay, but 993 times in a row. And 28, was it 28 out of 1, 34 out of 121. Also, how many numbers, how many numbers

[Big T]

are there in a ticket?

[Host 1]

Like 11 digit numbers. Okay, so I don't know how many of them change, but the 990 prefix shows up a lot. And it also shows up. There were a ton of Braves fans. There are a lot of Braves fans are everywhere because of TBS and whatever. Friday night it was probably 70% Braves fans. 990 also shows up when teams like the Braves, Dodgers, Padres, Cubs are in town that bring a lot more fans.

[Big T]

Now that, now that I know there's 11 digits, I, I'm, I'm guessing it's probably a little more, A little Less nefarious than we think.

[Host 1]

Why? I think that would make it more because.

[Big T]

Well, add this into the equation. The Rockies. Remember the Rockies GM last year when he was just like, yo, just come to the ballpark.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Big T]

He was just like, yeah, we suck. But like, just come, come through.

[Host 1]

And by the way, he's correct. It's beautiful.

[Big T]

Yeah, it's. It's gorgeous. Like, one of the best. I would argue that in Petco park in San Diego, probably the best. Like when the sun's going down, vibes in baseball, really. In sports, it's fire. But anywho. So if they try and get people to the park, I would think it would be less likely that they cooking the books on the raffle ticket if they try and get people to show up.

[Host 1]

But would that not then indicate that they'd be giving them to the numbers that are. We know are people in the ballpark?

[Big T]

That's what I'm saying.

[Host 1]

But it seems like this is a specific. There's no way 990 just shows up 28% of the time just because it happens to. It's clearly like a method of buying the tickets or a block of them or something. My. My guess is it's buying them online.

[Big T]

So when they pick the raffle, is it like one of those Big Wheel things?

[Host 1]

No, you just see a number pop up on the scoreboard. They're like, this is the number.

[Big T]

So we don't. We don't know the picking method.

[Host 1]

Correct.

[Big T]

It's worth looking at. It's worth looking at. I don't. I don't know that I can come up with a conclusion with the data given. But it's. It's interesting.

[Host 1]

I mean, it's clearly something. There's no way it just shows up. Maybe it's. Maybe it's for a good reason. I don't know. But all I'm left to do is speculate. And all I know is I bought hundreds of dollars worth of those tickets, and both times it came up, it was either the last person that bought a ticket or someone who bought it online. Maybe they knew who bought it online. I don't know.

[Big T]

How did you come up with the conclusion that 990 was the prefix for if you buy it online?

[Host 1]

That's a guess. But I'm saying that would be an easy variable to control if you were doing something interesting.

[Big T]

Yeah. No, I mean, yeah, I don't know,

[Host 1]

because it's either that. Because we bought them. I think the first night our tickets started with like three something and we Bought them an hour before the game Saturday night. They started with four, and we were a little closer to the game. So it seems if you buy them in person, they're sequential and.

[Big T]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Host 1]

And then both nights it was 9, 9, 0.

[Big T]

Interesting. Keep an eye on it.

[Host 1]

I'm going to. I. I've got a lot of data

[Big T]

invested in the Colorado Rockies.

[Host 1]

Yeah, something's. Now, with that said, amazing ballpark. Nice looking hat. I love this hat. It's a. It's a token of my conquest. We swept them, but, yeah, something's going on.

[Big T]

Token of my conquest. How many hats does that bring you to? Are you. Are you close?

[Host 1]

Are you close to me? There's no way of know. I have more hats than you. A thousand more hats than me. How many hats do you have?

[Big T]

We counted the other day. I'm probably at like 100 now.

[Host 1]

Oh, yeah. Way over. And I got rid of a bunch when I moved.

[Big T]

You got over a hundred hats, though. I mean, you've probably been collecting for longer than me. I was never really a hat guy until I played golf.

[Host 1]

I'll count tonight. And I. I mean, I bought three this weekend. I. I'd guess at one point it was over 200. Then when I moved, I got rid of some. It's probably 150.

[Big T]

Yeah, you're a hat guy. You got me beat.

[Host 1]

Yeah. And it feels. Because now at this point, there's a ton that I just never wear, but I'm like, I'm not. But I still want new ones because I love hats. So it's like, you can't justify it, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

[Big T]

You're not like a hoarder in the sense of, like, you can't part with some of your old.

[Host 1]

No, I just, I'm like, I still want new hats even though I, I have a ton of hats. I, I probably. There are some I should get rid of, but, you know, might wear it someday.

[Big T]

Oh, man. What you got on your list today, man? Let's see what's popping in the streets.

[Host 1]

So here's something I want to start with because this is related to your career field. You know who Kelsey Plum is? Very good women's basketball player.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Host 1]

She recently signed a contract for $999,999. And people were like, that's an odd number. Like, why?

[Big T]

Why?

[Host 1]

Short of a million. And then some people are like, well, what if it's for taxes? And then people point out, that's not how that works. If you, if you make the extra dollar. You're not. The new tax bracket only taxes you on that dollar. It costs you like 13 cents. Yep. Well, she did an interview that if you haven't watched, I'd love for you to watch because it's, it's incredible.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Host 1]

Yeah. So Kelsey Plum was under the impression that if she made one more dollar, she would pay $13,000 more dollars in taxes. Which. How does she not have someone telling her that that's not the case? I mean, how do you not know it? But to that she almost certainly has income from like sponsorships or something that pushes it over a million anyway.

[Big T]

Yeah, I don't know. That's either. She has to know, right?

[Host 1]

It seems she doesn't.

[Big T]

And even if, let's say that's the case, like 13 grand, if you have a million, you ain't gonna lose no sleep. If that was the case.

[Host 1]

Well, I mean I, if it actually was Gonna cost her 13 grand, then fine, I understand doing that. But like that, that's not how that works. You're not getting taxed at a million percent on that dollar.

[Big T]

Yeah. It's just every dollar of whatever percentage bracket you're in, you get taxed on the next dollar. Right? I don't, I don't know, man. Either it's bad advice or. You know what, I'm in a non judgmental mood. Maybe she didn't know. Maybe, maybe she, maybe she just, you know, you can't. Look, she's a professional basketball player. You know what I'm saying? She's not, she's not a tax consultant. She don't know the tax law.

[Host 1]

Well, no, I believe, clearly. It just seems like, I mean if you're, if you're making a million dollars a year, surely you have someone telling you.

[Big T]

You know, what I found in the, in the sports industry is that there is a lot of predatory financial advisors, for sure. And they, and, and a lot. What I found is a lot of them don't educate their clients on these kinds of things and a lot of clients don't want to be educated on it. And because it's, it's a lot, it's a lot to deal with. I mean, I, I, I know for the most part how finances work, but there's a lot of, I don't know, like I'm not going to keep up on the tax laws on, you know, which state and which this and it's just less a lot to, you know, saying that's why you pay people to do it or like if I'm Doing my taxes. I, I'm not gonna do my taxes. I have too much going on. That's just, it'll, it'll be two time consumers. So with that much amount of wealth, I understand how you can get a little bit lackadaisical with understanding it, but that was pretty, should be a well known thing. But hey, you know, I'm pretty sure she knows now because if the, if the Internet, if you wrong on the Internet, you, you go, you gonna figure out soon. She, she'll be all right.

[Host 1]

No.

[Big T]

Hate to Casey. Kelsey.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Kelsey good player. I, I, I wish. Congrats on the 999 grand. That's, that's awesome.

[Big T]

That's a fire name though too.

[Host 1]

Yeah, she used to be married to Darren Waller, the, the tight end.

[Big T]

Darren Waller, the tight end. Oh, that's because play for Miami last year.

[Host 1]

Yeah,

[Big T]

fair enough. I, I was, I was picking my daughter up from like a play date. Well, she went to her homegirl's birthday party. She's 8. And so I pick her up from her house and this is, I realized how disassociated from sports I've been lately. I come in the house and the, and the little girl's mom, you know, she's as they're, you know, cleaning up and about to go. You're kind of just sitting there waiting for her to come on. She, and I already forgot. She says, oh, so and so just moved in across the street. I was like, who's that? She's like, place for the Rockets. I said, oh, okay, cool. She has more knowledge of what's going on in the NBA right now than I do. I haven't watched, I maybe watched one or two playoff games. I'm just, I've just been out the loop, man.

[Host 1]

Lakers are moving on.

[Big T]

Yeah, I think I'll catch this series. This should be a good series. Well be an entertaining series because a lot is. I want to see how Braun perform with this. Like when he, when he was in Cleveland like his first years and he was carrying that team every year, like he was different. Like his, it was, it was all on his shoulders and he played like that. I think as he got more help, he became more passive and he started to do the right, you know, make the right play and shit like that. But as a, as an OG basketball fan, I like, I like greedy players. I like Kobe. Go ahead and take 30 shots, dog. Put it on your back. I like that type. I'm hoping he does that this series, you know, because his skill set is still. I Did watch one of the Lego games. Skill set is pretty unbelievable right now at his age, but yeah, I'm excited. I'm gonna watch that one, man.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I think they might get, might get it handed to him this time,

[Big T]

but ain't gonna get swept though. I'll put money on that.

[Host 1]

Oh, that won't get swept.

[Big T]

Okay. All right. No, we could bet that.

[Host 1]

I mean if I wanted to bet him get swept, I'd do it on DraftKings sportsbook where I bet it's. I'd guess they're plus 400 for a sweep, but we'll see. There are two airplane stories in the news. Do you feel stronger about Spirit Airlines closing down or did you see the, the crash with the truck in Newark?

[Big T]

I heard about Spirit Airlines. I did not see the crash. But if this is a little clip of it in your email, let me

[Host 1]

check what it is. I've always thought flying into Newark they get dangerously low like because the highway's right there right next to the airport.

[Big T]

Did he die?

[Host 1]

No, they said he's, he had non life threatening injuries. It hit the back of his truck. I mean if that had, you know, gotten the cab dog.

[Big T]

Well, I'm glad that brother survived, but this is probably the best thing could ever happen to him. He ain't never going to have to work again. Holy shit. He's going to sue the absolute shit out. Who, what airlines?

[Host 1]

Was it United?

[Big T]

Oh yeah. He can't get that check. Congratulations to him.

[Host 1]

You may not even have to sue him. They may just call you and be like, what, what, what's it going to take for this to just go away?

[Big T]

I'm going need whatever they, whatever they offer, I'm doubling.

[Host 1]

Yeah, you don't take the first offer when you get hit by a plane.

[Big T]

Hell no, bro, I'm might be tripling that. I'm like, you tell me this is bad, brother.

[Host 1]

I bet he had lawyers lining up

[Big T]

100% financial advisors calling him right now trying to get in, trying to get in the bag.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big T]

Yo, shout out to him. He is about to now. If I ever wanted something to happen to me, it might be that a

[Host 1]

non life threatening injury from being struck by a plane.

[Big T]

Oh yeah, especially United. United's my airlines. Like I love United. I only fly United. So date him. I'm like, listen, first off, going hard the rest of my life off top and my family. You know what I'm saying?

[Caller]

Period, right?

[Big T]

All bloodline related to me is getting free flights for the rest of my life. And I won.

[Host 1]

I Think Mark Cuban. I want to say it's Delta. He said in the maybe 90s he bought a pass for free. First class flights for life. Well, not free. He paid for it obviously, but unlimited.

[Big T]

How much?

[Host 1]

It was not nearly enough. It was.

[Guest 1]

It says after selling his first company, he purchased $125,000.

[Host 1]

That's it.

[Big T]

I would do that right now. No question. I would do that right now. What? Holy. And it's like snatched everybody voice on the pod. But what happened?

[Guest 1]

I know, I don't know what happened to my voice. Like I lost it last week. Then it came back and now it's gone again. This says after selling his first company, he purchased a lifetime American Airlines air pass American.

[Host 1]

And it was 125. Yeah, I bet he has spent tens of millions of dollars flying in the last 30 years.

[Big T]

I mean especially fly private now. But he also, he's a billionaire so he ain't gonna fit. He ain't gonna feel. He don't feel his. His private plane.

[Host 1]

He wasn't then though, because I remember him. He taught. When he talked about it, he was like, it was a lot of money still at the time. But he was like, I will for sure use it over the course of my entire life.

[Big T]

Is he. Does he have a. Do you have a wife?

[Host 1]

I think so. He has kids.

[Big T]

I think when I say, because you know I'm saying that'd be easy.

[Caller]

Like

[Big T]

that's how you get him flew out free.

[Host 1]

I'm sure it has to be his id.

[Big T]

Yeah, well, yeah, you. Maybe you right. But shout out to that dude, man, for his life has now changed, man. United. Take care of my boy. You still got a loyal customer. Me. Hey, times fly low. You know what I mean? Shit happens. I'll still be using your services. Just take care of my boy.

[Host 1]

I am pretty much exclusively United now as well.

[Big T]

It's just a good airlines though like you know, because I hear, I hear stories about, you know, some people has had problems with them and I hear stories about other airlines all the time. They lost my bags. I have never had one issue with United. I've never lost a bag. I've never had bad service. I think that they could do a better job of like there's like a transitioning from like the older models, like especially the interior where they don't got TVs on the seats. But that's just me being an American consumer, you know, saying I'm still flying on a bird. I'm good.

[Host 1]

I do need the one thing. Speaking of the TVs they don't have live TV. They just have movies and stuff. I need live television in case there's a game on or something. I need that.

[Big T]

Fair enough.

[Host 1]

I will say, yesterday, the WI fi was incredible.

[Big T]

That's what I'm saying. I've just never. I've never had a problem with United. They got a customer, me for life.

[Host 1]

And, you know, and I've had a problem. And you and I, you know, when we fly United, they put the little. That little orange priority tag on your bags, and they come out quick as hell.

[Big T]

They do, actually. I've never really had a problem waiting for bags. You know, two bags, free.

[Host 1]

Even golf clubs.

[Big T]

Golf clubs. Free dog.

[Caller]

Golf club.

[Big T]

And they fly with me. They fly with me, player.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah. Shout out to people at United, man. Take care of my boy.

[Host 1]

Advertise on the show. We'll say even better stuff. 101st one's free.

[Big T]

Next one, we can embellish it a little bit, you know, maybe a personal experience or two. All right, give me the other plane story, man. What happened with the other plane?

[Host 1]

RIP Spirit Airlines shut down, effective immediately. I know you're. You're a big fan of spirit, as we just discussed.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I love spirit. So did something happen? Is that just a free market deciding?

[Host 1]

Yeah, I think they were on the verge of bankruptcy and they were lobbying for, like, a $500 million bailout, and the government was like, no, thanks.

[Big T]

Well, yeah, I don't. I'm kind of indifferent about it. I mean, I know I'll say this. I know a lot of people talk about spirit, but, like, for people who have a little bit lower income, it is convenient and it helps them out if they want to travel. And ticket prices can be a little pricey a lot of the times with other airlines. So I think from that aspect kind of sucks.

[Host 1]

I always hated that about them, though, because they advertise like, hey, we're so cheap. And then they're like, oh, you want a seat on the plane? Well, that's an additional 18. Oh, you want to bring a backpack, that's 20. And then it ends up not even being cheaper.

[Big T]

I'd have to do the analytics on that. But from my understanding, it was. It was lower.

[Host 1]

It's. It's a little cheaper. But, like, if I. Even bringing a carry on is like an additional charge. And, you know, the whole. They charge for they nickel and dime a lot.

[Big T]

I think all. I don't think there should ever be three seats in a row. I think that's the most Capitalistic, greedy shit in the world. To me, like, they're going to be okay if, like, the company will operate fine. The CEO's will. Everybody, like, everybody gets on flights on a day, daily basis. Let your. Let your customers be comfortable, bro. Like, I hate that shit. Get packing people in, Dennis. It's like everybody next to people, it just ruins you, you know what I'm saying? You got a five hour flight, though. You're in the middle seat. Like, oh, I couldn't do it. Like, just like, literally, my. My body and all the injuries I've accumulated over the years, I can't. I can't sit upright and not be comfortable for five hours straight. Like, ever. My back up.

[Host 1]

Yeah. You know what I love is when I fly to Knoxville, it's usually on smaller planes, and the first class is one on each side. And that's. Oh, it's amazing.

[Big T]

I like that one, too.

[Host 1]

I'd much rather be on that than, like a brand new plane that has all the bells and whistles and stuff. Just give me one seat.

[Big T]

Except for. Have you ever been in a pod? The Big Johns.

[Host 1]

So when I flew to London, it was not. Not, I don't think what you're talking about, but it was a huge plane that was pretty new. This summer, when we go to Hawaii, we're in like the first class. Like, lay down on a. Like a new plane. So that'll be cool.

[Big T]

There you go. I went to Japan and they had. They had us in. I did. It was like first class ticket to Japan. Like, it was like eight, ten grand. It was. It was. It was a little penny, but to me, it was worth it. Like, it's you in this pod and, like, it's like a little apartment almost. It's amazing. I was like, I could sprawl out. I can't just lay down. Like, I could sprawl out, roll over. Like, if I had a. Anyway, it was a great experience.

[Host 1]

If you had a what?

[Big T]

I had a. I. I know, I know. Yeah. You know, it's a. It's a lot of room in there. That's all I'll say.

[Host 1]

Yeah, it's. I'm looking forward to it. I've never been in, like, I've seen the. All the YouTube videos of Emirates first class and all that stuff.

[Big T]

So I think that's what I was on. I think, think. What else you got on your list today?

[Host 1]

Only one other, like, story you saw that thermos will, like, shoot you with their water bottles and poke your eye out.

[Big T]

No. What the fuck? Is this. What is Thermos? Oh, this is a brand. I thought that's what they were called.

[Host 1]

I didn't want to admit that, but I thought that as well. I did not know it was a brand. It's like a Kleenex type deal.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So, According to an April 30 recall notice from the company and post on the United States Consumer Product Safety Commission website, if perishable food or beverages are stored in the container for an extended period of time, the stopper can forcefully eject when opened, which can result in serious impact injury and laceration hazards to the consumer. And I guess people have suffered, like, permanent vision loss from this happening. I don't even understand. I understand what those words mean, but I'm trying to envision how that happens. The malfunction is due to multiple models of containers missing a pressure relief function in the center of the stopper. Do you imagine you go to drink out of your water bottle and something shoots out like a bullet at your eye?

[Big T]

But that's only if you leave food in it, right?

[Host 1]

Yeah. It says perishable, so I don't. I don't really get what's going on here. Thermos received 27 total reports of users who were struck by a stopper that forcefully ejected from these containers upon opening, including complaints of impact and laceration injuries requiring. Requiring medical attention.

[Big T]

I could think about somebody doing it and happen it in front of me. I will laugh at this.

[Host 1]

It sounds bad,

[Big T]

you getting your ass pulled by Thermos. I don't know. Let me have. Let me practice. I'm. I'm trying to practice more kindness in my life.

[Host 1]

I love that.

[Big T]

I. I sympathize with somebody who struggles with containers for food and beverage that may have sustained lacerations. I sympathize with that. I wish them well.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I mean, that sounds like. It really sucks. So

[Big T]

today's May 4th.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, because I.

[Big T]

Let's do it.

[Host 1]

It's. I don't care about my birthday, but I do care that it's been hijacked.

[Big T]

Your birthday was hijacked before you was here?

[Host 1]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Because I'm very keenly aware this happened in, like, 2013. 14 is when this whole deal started, because it was never. I remember my junior year of high school, my personal finance teacher, Coach Schwartz, Shout out, he was the man. He was a big, big Star wars guy.

[Big T]

And.

[Host 1]

And so on May 4, he, you know, did the whole kit and caboodle, and I never heard of that before. And then since then it has increased annually. The fanfare that very well may have

[Big T]

been your introduction to May the fourth. But May the fourth has been here since the very first.

[Host 1]

I'm sure there were people doing it, but it wasn't like this.

[Big T]

It was like this.

[Host 1]

I don't think so.

[Big T]

So I'm a sci Fi guy.

[Caller]

Right.

[Big T]

I'm not a Star wars guy. And so I'm a Star Trek guy. Right. I'm a Trekkie. Love Trek. Star Trek. But May the May 4th has always been around because Star wars is like the Star wars versus Star Trek, which I would argue Star wars is like. Be careful with my words here. It's the pop version of a sci fi film with social commentary.

[Host 1]

Oh, you're saying they're. They're not the real ones?

[Big T]

Oh, no, they're not deep at all. They don't go deep with any kind of story narratives. It's just very. It's very bland. Good versus evil. Sure. You know, tale is old as time. Star Trek goes into deeper social and cultural conflict, interpersonal conflict. It's. It's a. It's a much deeper introspective look into the human condition than Star wars is. But I understand the narrative and I understand, you know, good and evil. It's like it's pop. It's like it's a cultural phenomenon. I get it. It's cool. By the way, not for me.

[Host 1]

The first official Star Wars Day celebration at the Toronto Underground Cinema was in 2011.

[Big T]

With the first. Say that one.

[Host 1]

The first official Star Wars Day celebration which happened at the Toronto Underground Cinema was in 2011. And once Disney acquired Lucas in 2012, things really took off. Exactly what I said.

[Big T]

Ain't no. You're telling me. Nobody.

[Host 1]

I'm telling you. I. A thousand percent.

[Big T]

I need a primary source.

[Host 1]

This is chat. GPT. I don't. There's. There's a link. There's a link. I'm clicking the link. I'm just telling you I believe there were things going on, but it was not this cultural thing until 10 years ago. 15, maybe. Oh, no, because I remember I was indifferent to Star wars and then they. They hijacked my birthday. And now I dislike Star Wars.

[Big T]

I don't know, because. Okay, so I asked when Star wars became a part of Comic Con. Comic Con is a huge, like, convention of, like, nerdy shit. And in 1976, they were part of Comic Con.

[Host 1]

Well, yeah, I believe that, but that's not so.

[Big T]

But you're talking about a specific.

[Host 1]

Specific to May 4th

[Big T]

that there was a celebration of May 4th.

[Host 1]

Yes, that's what we're talking about.

[Big T]

I've heard of this. May the fourth be with you since

[Host 1]

I was a child again, again I believe people were saying it and that like it was a thing like, oh, may the fourth be with you, whatever. But as like, like there are people going to like events today and like that kind of thing that started recently.

[Big T]

I don't know the events. I just know may 4th be with you has been in the consciousness of the American lexicon since I was conscious.

[Host 1]

I don't disagree with that. But it became Disney made it much, much bigger.

[Big T]

Have you seen all the series?

[Host 1]

No, I haven't. I've seen a couple of the Star wars movies like involuntarily, but I, I, I don't even think I've watched most of the movies.

[Big T]

Involuntarily is hilarious.

[Host 1]

Yeah, like, I don't remember. I went with, to one with my parents. It was one of the, the newer ones, didn't enjoy it. And I think I've seen like one of the old ones maybe, but I've never really, I just, it's not, it's not for me, you know.

[Big T]

No, they're not playing sports.

[Host 1]

They're not, you know, whatever.

[Big T]

I tried it, I definitely tried it. Definitely not for me. Dog. Not a, not a Star Wars. Got my, I was, I was, I follow Patrick Stewart on, on ig. Patrick Stewart, for those that don't know, is as Jean Luc Picard. He is the captain of the SS Enterprise in the Next Generation for Star Trek. He's he, I think and I've seen all the, you know, I've seen Deep Space Nine, I seen the original series, I seen all Star Treks. I think personally this is a hot, I don't even know that hot of a take. I think Captain Picard is the best captain of all the Star Treks, bar none. He's just amazing. I love him. But I was, I was following him online and I seen, he, he, he has this book where he reads this audiobook where he reads Shakespeare's work because he has like a dope ass voice. And you ever see somebody that you like, revere that you really with and then you just see their, you know, they're aging and that, you know, looks like it's knocking on the door for him. My man's looking kind of, you know, hopefully he has a long, long time left to go. But it was looking pretty looking, looking real Joe Biden esque, you know, that's

[Host 1]

never what you want?

[Big T]

Absolutely not. But I love him. He's gonna be. He's gonna be a legend in my eyes forever. I. I think I've said this before on the show. I haven't watched the last two or three episodes of the Next Generation of Star Trek because I don't want it to end in my head. I feel very strongly about this. They're still out there.

[Host 1]

But. But there are things that have happened that you don't know about.

[Big T]

I know.

[Host 1]

So you, you value the knowledge that it's. There is still unknown, then you value the knowledge of what happened?

[Big T]

I don't think I've ever thought about it that way, but I think that is an accurate statement pertaining to this. Yes. This is so. This. I used to fall asleep today episodes, like, you know, saying, like, just binge watch and then go to bed and they don't never get old to me. I don't know. I could watch the entire thing right now and be happy that I'm watching it. And the last three or two, I think it's two or three I haven't seen.

[Host 1]

Interesting.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Because then it's like it's over in my head, you know? I don't want it to be over. I don't know what this is kind of psychological condition this is, but I don't want it to be over. Like, I love it that much.

[Host 1]

Yeah. That's weird because, like, I. I've definitely had shows or movies or whatever that I was sad when they were over, but I'm glad I watched it because I love it. So I wanted. I want to know what happens.

[Big T]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I don't know, man.

[Host 1]

That's interesting.

[Big T]

But in. But in my perspective, they're coming out with three new episodes soon, you know?

[Host 1]

So are you. Are you ever gonna watch it?

[Big T]

I don't know, you know, I don't know about that. Maybe, maybe. Maybe if I outlive Patrick Stewart, which

[Host 1]

maybe it seems you will.

[Big T]

Maybe. Yeah. Shit's crazy, man. My dog got hit by a car.

[Host 1]

You never know.

[Big T]

But maybe if something like that was to happen, I'll honor him by finishing the series.

[Host 1]

Okay. He's 85. I'm seeing. He could have another. Another seven or eight in him.

[Big T]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I have a nice glass of Earl Grey tea. That was his favorite drink on the Enterprise.

[Host 1]

Nice. This guy's in. He's the X Men guy, right?

[Big T]

Yeah, he was. Professor. This is not good.

[Host 1]

I believe it's Charles Xavier and the Charles Xavier.

[Big T]

I cannot believe I missed.

[Host 1]

And the only reason I know that is in the Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn comedy the Internship.

[Guest 1]

Yes.

[Host 1]

They. They call. Well, it's not him, right? Yeah. They call a guy in a wheelchair, a bald guy in a wheelchair, Professor Xavier because the. The kids told him and they don't know what it means.

[Big T]

Yeah. One of the all time hilarious comedies in my idea is that comedy still. Be. That kind of comedy still being made?

[Host 1]

No.

[Big T]

Vince Vaughn on Wilson, Paul. Paul Rudd. That kind. That whole. That was an era.

[Host 1]

Yeah, we. We're done. We've. We've seen them all.

[Big T]

What's the best comedy that's came out lately? Like, what's the best modern comedy?

[Host 1]

I mean, there are still like rom coms coming out that are not at

[Guest 1]

the same level of like 1980s, 1990s rom coms.

[Host 1]

No.

[Big T]

Or like 2000s. That would.

[Guest 1]

Early 2000s. Yeah.

[Big T]

I mean, if you want to say, was the love interest on every one of them.

[Guest 1]

Yeah. I mean, if you want to say like devil or Prada. I don't know if I would classify that as a comedy.

[Host 1]

The one that just came at 2.

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Have you seen it?

[Guest 1]

No, not yet, but I've heard it's pretty good. It's classified as a comedy like on

[Big T]

Google, but comedy died.

[Host 1]

But that's also a sequel.

[Big T]

Legalized comedy, man. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Yeah, they don't, they don't make movies like that anymore.

[Big T]

This is your first I'm an adult statement, I think.

[Host 1]

No, we've talked about this.

[Guest 1]

Yeah. No, there's just. No.

[Host 1]

Who was it that was saying it's because there's no DVDs anymore? Oh, it was Matt Damon. He was like, comedies could survive because even if you didn't make a ton at the box office, you knew the DVD was coming in. A bunch of people would buy the dvd and that's how they made a lot of money. And now there's no DVDs, so studios don't want to make comedies anymore.

[Big T]

Money. Art should be subsidized, though. I've always said that money ruins art. It turns it into a commodity. And so instead of like focusing on the craft of it, you focus on the profitability of it. And it's fucking ruins it. It ruins it waters down music. Music. They don't make music like they used to anymore. Now everything's synthesized. Yeah. How can I go viral?

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Rather than like, how can I spend a life's work on a piece of art that means something? Like, it's just. I don't know.

[Host 1]

And now any song that comes out, I've heard it for three weeks on TikTok and I'm sick of it and I don't even want to listen to it.

[Guest 1]

Well, and you haven't even heard the whole song. You've heard the 15 second snippet of it. That's viral that. But like, it is crazy that now record labels are making it where it's like, make like TikTok music is part of the thing. It's like, will this go viral on TikTok? And then now part of their marketing approach is that they'll pay, let's say a record labels artist, like artist A is coming out with the song. They will Pay influencers on TikTok to use the song or influencers to like make a dance to it. So it's like you're like, all of a sudden you're like, why am I hearing this song over and over again? I have no interest in this artist. It's because the record label is paying people on TikTok to just use it as much as possible to get eyes on it instead of like the radio.

[Big T]

That's the only like, influence really, other than relationships that record labels have anymore. Because they don't really have any control over what the public has other than payola and getting people to spin it, which payola has always been a part of the music business. So like they used to pay DJs to spin certain records as well. Like you'll put this on and put this in a rotation. Yeah, I think. But the difference now is like everything's so curated. So like you have a specific genre or specific artist that you're like. And you can go straight to them. So that's the only difference. It's just now the record labels, you should subsidize the artists by giving them advances. And now there's really not a lot of money in it like that. So you have to create virality and suck the teeth of that monster.

[Guest 1]

Right?

[Big T]

And it just becomes very yuck. And I'm not even like one of them old cast. That's like, like some of my favorite music that's came out is. Is current. Like I love, like I. I made a top 100 songs of all time list and like I got Childish Gambino on there.

[Host 1]

What song?

[Guest 1]

Oh,

[Big T]

Red Bone if you want it. Yep, Red Bone, that's on there. I think I have this actually. Yeah, let's get into that. I was, I was at a bar in Vegas, like a hotel bar. And I was next to this dude. He's like, what are you doing, man? He was just like being nosy. I was like, I'm creating a top 100 of all time song list. He's like, really? I was like, yeah. I was like, like, tell me what's on it. So I started naming some. He's like, oh, oh, this is a list, man. I was like, oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Host 1]

I am curious what you'd put as like the top five songs ever, because my favorite songs change often.

[Big T]

See, and this is why I didn't number them. I'm not going to number.

[Host 1]

This is not sequential.

[Big T]

This is just when I. When I listen to these. To me, it's like some of the best music that has been put out. And I did factor in some somewhat. It's cultural impact. Right. But it still has to be quality in mind. And again, this is my list. But you know, like, for instance, like Baby Shark has a huge cultural impact, but I don't think it's one of the best songs that ever been made.

[Host 1]

Right, Fair enough.

[Big T]

So watch here. Here's. Here's the first, you know, on the list. Here's the first couple of them. Everybody Wants to Rule the World. Tears for Fears. Come on. Everybody wants to. That is just. It's just gorgeous.

[Caller]

Right?

[Big T]

Wonderwall by Oasis.

[Host 1]

Solid.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Okay. Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen. I don't Even Care what nobody says. That is one of the best composed songs and it's ever been written by a human being. I love that song. Fly like an Evil Steve Miller Band.

[Guest 1]

Oh, yeah.

[Big T]

When Doves Cry Prince. Beautiful song. So. And this one I took in cultural impact and. Because I don't. I have. I have Michael Jackson on here, I think two or three times. But I put Billie Jean on there. I think Billie Jean had a really big cultural impact and I think it's just one of his best jams. Sonically Dream on by Aerosmith.

[Host 1]

We've got some representation in here.

[Big T]

I like that. Oh, hey, hey. When one came. When it comes to music, Alfino, don't discriminate. I love me some love that. I love Caucasity in my music. I'll be telling you, I'll be missing the. The. The. The white music I grew up with. I used to jam that, bro. I love that. In the air of the night. Phil Collins. Come on. Yeah, come on, come on. Living on a Prayer.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Big T]

On Jovi. Okay, so here's like a more contemporary, not like super contemporary, like, you know what I'm saying? But I still think it's one of the best Songs of all time Crazy by narrows, Barkley and CeeLo. Beautifully written song, dog.

[Host 1]

I don't. I like it. I don't know that I'd put it in the top hundred ever, but.

[Big T]

So, because it's to me. I took penmanship into consideration, too, because I'm a writer, dog. So when. When he says, I remember when. I remember when I lost my mind. There's something so special about that place. Even your emotions have an echo in so much space. That shit is. Oh, my God. It's just. It don't get better than that writing wise. I don't know. I think they killed that whole thing. Production, all that.

[Host 1]

Trying to remember what video game that was on. It was like a Madden or a 2K. Like, could be 0708ish.

[Big T]

Yeah. Probably around that time. Yeah. Oh, September, Earth, Wind of Fire.

[Caller]

All right.

[Big T]

And this one again, cultural impact. It is the best music video of all time. Guess the song.

[Host 1]

Thriller.

[Big T]

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. What you won't do for love. Bobby Caldwell.

[Host 1]

I don't know that song.

[Big T]

What?

[Guest 1]

I don't know if I know it either.

[Big T]

What you won't do. Do for love. You tried everything, but you won't give up. No, y' all don't know that. No, you're welcome. Well, you're welcome.

[Host 1]

I'll check it out.

[Big T]

Listen to it. Listen to it after the pod. It is one of the best songs of all time, though.

[Host 1]

1979.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah. Sade. Smooth operator. Good operator. Come on, Big T. Don't know that one.

[Host 1]

I do know that song. This artist is someone. I've heard the name, but I never. I would have never known a song or anything, but I do know that song.

[Big T]

Let me introduce you to Sade, my brother. Sade is the audio equivalent to sitting on a mountain peak top overlooking a city. Sun is going down, it's perfect temperature, and you're just extremely grateful. The gratitude is shining through. And it's not light, it's not dark. It's everything that shandy.

[Host 1]

I had. I had an experience this weekend and it's happened to me enough times that I've noticed it now. And this seems like something you'd be interested in. I found myself in times. This only happens when I'm, like, very happy or, like, grateful. And, like, just. I was playing golf with my friends, were in front of this, like, beautiful. The Rocky Mountains are in the background, like snow capped. It's just the most beautiful thing you've ever seen. I'm like, the weather was perfect. I was like, this is amazing. And then I was like, one day, relatively soon, we're just all going to be dead.

[Big T]

Yes, sir.

[Host 1]

It only happens to me when I'm, like, having a great time and I hate it and I don't know how to stop it and I don't like it.

[Big T]

This is exactly what I was alluding to earlier when I was listening to Alan Watts. Alan Watts is explaining nothing matters, right? And nihilism. Nihilism gets this rap that it's. You're depressed and that's not the case. And he said it very eloquently when nothing matters. Nihilism isn't despair, it's. What did he say? He said, nihilism isn't despair. It's like. It's like, ah, what's the word? Cut me out.

[Host 1]

I don't know. But like, I don't believe that, though, is the thing, like you do, or

[Big T]

else you wouldn't have felt that. So this is the thing when you. When you are so grateful because a part. If. If death didn't happen, you wouldn't have anything relative to compare it to. So you wouldn't be so appreciative of life if it wasn't for death. Which is why he was saying, like, nihilism is not this, like, disparities. Like, it's like. It's like a realization. It's like understanding. And he had this other quote where he's, like, trying to control. Like, a lot of times that's what we do, right? We try to control our circumstances, situations. Like trying to control things is like holding. Trying to hold on to the sunlight. The harder you. The harder you grip, the more it eludes you and it turns into darkness. He's like, just let it be and let it go. You just had that moment. You had that moment of like, I'm so grateful that I understand this moment isn't going to last forever. That is the beauty of life. And to me, that's what nihilism is. It's. It's not disparate. It's realizing, like we're here for a fleeting moment, this universe, depending on your belief system, billions and billions of years old. And we're here for a snapshot. If that. Man, this is a beautiful thing. I love it. And it's those moments where it happens. Big T, you had a. You had a nihilistic moment. It wasn't a bad thing, though, was it?

[Host 1]

I mean, it wasn't good or bad necessarily. It was just something. And it's happened to me a couple times.

[Big T]

That's a perfect Description. It wasn't good or. Or bad. It just was. Things aren't good or bad. They just are. Things are. Yeah. You had a snapshot into my worldview right there. Big T. That made me happy. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Yeah. It's just. It's. I don't know that I attach. Like. It was just. It's just something I've. I've noticed.

[Big T]

I think it's a beautiful feeling. I think when it happens more and more to happen more and more to me, I. That kind of changed my worldview. That's. That's why I started to think, like, what is all this? This that's gonna get real deep down into the rabbit hole.

[Host 1]

See, that's where I think the difference is. Is, like, that. That thought. We diverge from that thought.

[Big T]

Fair enough. Yeah. Different creatures. One of my favorite quotes of all times about Mark Twain, he says, we need differences of opinion. What would be the point of horse races? Shout out to Mark Twain, Kentucky Derby. What about that?

[Guest 1]

Did you.

[Host 1]

That was on Saturday.

[Big T]

Oh. Oh. I've never watched the Kentucky Derby. I. I'll be honest. Did y'. All.

[Caller]

Y'.

[Big T]

All. Y' all watch it?

[Guest 1]

We.

[Caller]

Did.

[Host 1]

I watch it, but I don't. I don't get it.

[Big T]

I feel like it's. It's us holding on to, like, you know, part of America's pastime, a little elitism. You know, it's like. Do they still sell Cracker Jacks at baseball games? Oh, yeah. I like, the only place you'll get them, Right?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Guest 1]

That's the only place you're gonna think about getting it. Unless you're, like, a huge.

[Big T]

Nobody's gonna stop at the gas station and be like, I need some Cracker Jacks, though.

[Guest 1]

Yeah. I think that's a very specific, niche group of people.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Also, Cracker Jacks, not.

[Big T]

They're not that good.

[Guest 1]

No.

[Big T]

It's peanut butter popcorn, isn't it?

[Host 1]

It's like. It's like. Yeah. Kettle corn and kettle peanuts.

[Guest 1]

I love kettle corn, though. There's not enough kettle corn representation in the world.

[Big T]

I don't know. If I saw a kettle corn, I could identify it.

[Guest 1]

I mean, it doesn't look that much different. It's just the taste or I guess, kettle.

[Host 1]

It's caramel corn. Kettle corn, I think, is different.

[Guest 1]

Kettle corn is caramel.

[Big T]

Caramel.

[Guest 1]

But caramel cone just has a caramel on it.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Guest 1]

Note, Kentucky Derby is fun for, like, actually two seconds because the race is so short and you. I guess every year I forget that the race is just. I think it's like a minute and a half, and then you're like, oh, we're kind of all wearing these crazy hats for nothing, huh? Like, now it's done.

[Host 1]

Yeah. I mean, there's like 20 races before it, but.

[Guest 1]

Yeah, but, like.

[Host 1]

But nobody watches those.

[Guest 1]

No. I will also say Mackenzie and I watched it together this weekend. I feel really bad for the horses. They just make me kind of sad.

[Big T]

This goes. This goes into PFT, one of PFT's best bits of all time, in my opinion, that somebody asked him, if you could be any athlete of all time, like, what would you be? And he said, a racehorse.

[Guest 1]

Right. Secretariat. But it makes me so also one that they are the ones at the Kentucky Derby. I mean, horses are big and scary, in my opinion, anyway. But the ones at the Kentucky Derby, you can see it on the tv, are just, I mean, pure muscle. They're so big and tall. They're insane. And then I feel so bad just because I don't. It. I don't know, it just makes me feel a little bit dirty because they. They're so young. And then I think that's their only use. And if they don't do well, I don't think they get treated very nicely after all the time.

[Host 1]

You just described human athletes as.

[Big T]

Well, yeah, but podcast.

[Guest 1]

Yeah, but, like, human athletes don't get, like, shot if they don't win a race.

[Host 1]

I think they.

[Big T]

Some of them do in. In other countries. Soccer players, really.

[Host 1]

And. And try being a referee that makes a bad call in, like, an Argentinian soccer match.

[Guest 1]

So maybe I just have way more sympathy for the animals that I do. Like a basketball player.

[Host 1]

Right.

[Guest 1]

But I also felt so bad because watch Kenny.

[Big T]

Watch Kenny Smith walk up to the big screen.

[Guest 1]

The, like the NBA, the TNT guy.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah, man, it's bad.

[Guest 1]

Oh, but like, one of the horses that was supposed to be in it who randomly enough had a barstool. His jockey had a barstool sports sponsor on his leg, which I didn't realize we were doing, but he, like, bucked as they were trying to get him in the corral and fell over and then he was just done. And then he had to scratch the Kentucky Derby. And they spent so much time, you know. And again, this happens with athletes, too. Like, they tear their Achilles or, you know, tear their ACL before a championship game. I understand that that happens in real life, too, but this poor horse got scared, bucked, and then fell straight on his back. It was so sad. And then now he's just done.

[Host 1]

It's not built for the moment.

[Guest 1]

Like, that makes me so sad. And they're so pretty, but they're so terrifying to look at.

[Big T]

Horses.

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I want to know. Clearly they know they're racing, but how do we teach them that? I think you just, like, they know. They know they're supposed to go fast. Do they know that, like, they're. They're winning?

[Big T]

I don't. I don't know that they value

[Host 1]

being

[Big T]

faster than another horse. Like we do.

[Host 1]

They just know they're supposed to be going fast.

[Big T]

They say, yo, dude on top of me is hitting me. I gotta go.

[Guest 1]

Right? Is that just some of their, like, their brain chemistry is. I mean, and they train them. So obviously there's some sort of training involved with, like.

[Big T]

I don't know that there's ever been an animal in human history that we've observed that says that. Asks why. I think that would denote conscious. Like. Yeah, consciousness, I guess. And I don't think. Or self.

[Host 1]

Self awareness.

[Big T]

Self awareness. Yeah, there you go. I don't. I don't know that we've ever had an animal, maybe a dolphin has self awareness, I think, has shown self awareness.

[Host 1]

They do a bunch of stuff that, like, only humans do.

[Big T]

Yeah. So maybe though, like, I think whales do to orcas, but other than them, I think every. Everybody else is kind of just evolutionarily programmed to do whatever it is they do. I gotta. I gotta run because fucking something's telling me to run.

[Guest 1]

I'm sure it's also some sort. I mean, of like Pavlov's dog in a training sense of. I run fast, I get carrot or some sort. I mean. Right. You'd think.

[Big T]

Yeah, I get, I get treat. Yeah.

[Guest 1]

Yeah. I don't know how else you really train an animal besides reward.

[Big T]

That's.

[Guest 1]

That's punishment, like pain, I guess.

[Big T]

I'll be with my dog sometimes and I'll be like, yo, this is crazy. So like, before, and my trainer told him to. Told me to do this, like, before I feed him, I'll put the food down and say, leave it. Like, don't touch it. And he just like sits there and waits for me to say. And it's just like, it's. It's teaching him obedience so that, like, you know, so he doesn't run out on the street and get hit by a car. That's. That's the. That's what I was told. Like, but he did that anyway. But, like, that's, that's the thing. Like, it's just obedient because, like, rarely do you see that in humanity. Like that's usually by force. Like he, he just does what I say. Because this is kind of. Yeah, it is kind of sad. Took his freedom.

[Guest 1]

Right. But I imagine there's no other really way to train a horse than get

[Big T]

a carrot the faster you go, reward or beat.

[Guest 1]

Yeah, exactly.

[Big T]

Yeah. Pain.

[Guest 1]

But it is, it's a fun little thing to have to have a party for. But it does make me kind of sad.

[Big T]

Yeah, but you should visit a chicken coop or a slaughterhouse.

[Guest 1]

I would not like to sometimes. Unfortunately. This is. If there are any vegans out there, they're gonna be like, oh, she's such a. For this. But I have to have some level of like cognitive dissonance when it comes to that kind of stuff. Like eating meat, unfortunately. Because I don't like thinking about it like that.

[Big T]

I was a vegan for a year and some change. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Back in the league and I was never. Huh.

[Host 1]

Got hurt, didn't you?

[Guest 1]

No, I thought he had like his best year.

[Host 1]

Oh really?

[Big T]

That was the. Yeah, that was the propaganda around it that I, I went vegan right before the 2012 season. Didn't miss a game, made the Pro bowl, brother was first or second team all pro.

[Host 1]

So maybe it takes a year to kick in

[Big T]

whatever you got.

[Host 1]

Maybe it's a delay.

[Big T]

Keep feeding the propaganda, brother. But anywho, I was in the vegan for ethical reasons. I understood the ethical reasons, but I, I don't really view animals in that sense. Like I'm not trying to save the animals. Like I do believe that they suffer. Yeah. But I just think suffering is part of life is what it is. But the, the ethical part of veganism was it's, I mean it's a real thing. Like. And it kind of coincides with the other belief systems too, like climate change. If you believe climate change is real or if you look at climate change data and understand it, factory farming is a huge factor in climate change. All Those. And the CO2 from the cows. Absolutely can. Helps. Not helps. It adds to the CO2 emissions. So yeah, man, shout out to vegans though it's hard to do. Very hard to do the V. That's

[Host 1]

why who actually hates animals could be a funny. Like that's like a funny sketch bit.

[Guest 1]

That was me do it for like the climate change reasons.

[Big T]

I did it for health. I did it for. Because there's some studies. I think like moderation is key for sure. But I think if you eat like a plant based diet, it can prevent a lot of, but you have to get all your vitamins and you have to supplement B12 like that. But I did it for health reasons. I didn't do it because like I, I care about chickens and dogs. Chickens and cows. I don't eat dogs, bro.

[Host 1]

Thank you for clarifying.

[Big T]

You know, I don't want anybody to.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I'll never stop eating chicken wings, man. You can show me whatever you want.

[Big T]

You know who. Loki has the best fried chicken? Dog.

[Host 1]

Hang on. So low key. So this is not a chicken spot.

[Big T]

This is not a chicken.

[Host 1]

Is this like, this is a national chain?

[Big T]

No, this is just like in your local area. I guarantee some of the best fried chicken.

[Host 1]

Are you gonna say like an Asian restaurant?

[Big T]

Yes.

[Host 1]

Korean fried chicken. Absolutely.

[Big T]

I don't know why that is. They be that. Oh, yeah, like.

[Host 1]

Yeah, There's a place in New York, it was called Bone Shown. It's a chain. They're. They're other places. But it was like a Korean fried chicken spot. It was amazing. Which we'd go all the time, dog.

[Big T]

I. I went to this place called Happy Crab and it's a seafood boil place. So I go there and I get like snow crab legs. I get the crawfish, you know what I'm saying? Like good spicy stuff. And then one time we ordered some, some wings for my daughter, some. Some fried chicken wings for my daughter. Just like, you know what I'm saying? She don't, she don't really like seafood like that. And she didn't eat them all. And I was like, it. Let me try one of them, Jones. And I was like, this is some of the best fried chicken I've had in Houston.

[Host 1]

Yeah. The way they fry it, I think is different,

[Big T]

whatever they doing. And it's an Asian owned spot. That's it. It's an Asian owned. Like I said, all the owners are Asian, which is wild Asian owned seafood. Crab World, that makes some of the best fried chicken. A lot going on in that scenario,

[Host 1]

but yeah, Korean fried chicken's awesome.

[Big T]

Yeah, lovely. Do we have any voicemails running shits before we do?

[Host 1]

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[Caller]

Hey, this is Will from North Carolina. I was calling to see everybody's thoughts on the new college sports regulations. Between the executive orders from Trump and the new rules, the five years to play, five seasons, all that stuff that the NCAA has put it out recently, I was wondering if you guys could make a perfect college football or college sports in general governing body, what would that look like? Thanks. Stay handsome. Stay beautiful.

[Big T]

All right, so let me see. The key components of saving college sports order include eligibility and transfers a five year participation window with exceptions for military missionary service and restricting athletes to one restriction restricted transfer financial rules prohibits the use of federal funds for name like this. Image enforcement direct federal agencies to assess whether schools nil and transfer policies which may violate the order render them ineligible for federal grants.

[Host 1]

So I think will ask three questions. The, the executive order which from what I understand I haven't read all of it but I just kind of outlined. Yeah, a lot of it is unenforceable. It's kind of it it that doesn't mean a lot from what I understand. Then there is the new proposal from the NCAA of just straight from the time you enter college, you have five years, you can play all five and then that's it, you're done. Which I like. And then, then he asked about if we were to create an enforcement arm. The problem with that is people bitch about the NCAA all the time and the NCAA is a terribly corrupt organization that has done a lot of bad stuff. The NCAA is just the schools like the schools comprise the ncaa. When this, when people say these schools are going to break off from the NCAA and form their own thing, they're going to go form something else that will be akin to the NCAA Yeah,

[Big T]

but the NCAA is its own separate governing body that doesn't have any other oversight to it. So they make up their own rules and regulations, which is why.

[Host 1]

Correct. But they only have any power because the schools allow them to.

[Big T]

No, they only have any power because they monopolized it. The school. Like. So if I was to break. If I'm a school, if I was to break from the ncaa, I could create an entirely different league that rivals them. But I could, like, let's say first, I could pay my players, Right? Let's say I strike a TV deal. Let's say the SEC breaks from the ncaa, which I don't think would be a bad thing. It would force the ncaa.

[Host 1]

It's gonna happen.

[Big T]

I would love it. Because it would force the NCAA to incentivize schools to want to be a part of it. And this is why I think unions are so important. You let the players unionize, the meet their needs with the school's needs, and then you have a. A more fair business. But I. But to your point, I think that the NCAA is not just the schools, it's its own entity that has, I think, very successfully hoodwinked people into how they marketed athletes for years. And this is. They're just now scratching the surface on how to pay players. So, yeah, I think. I think them being rivaled would be a positive. But go ahead. I'm sorry.

[Host 1]

I mean, I think. I think in the next decade, I would hypothesize that at least the SEC and Big Ten will secede in some fashion. I don't know what form that takes, but I think we are not far at all from a. A super league of sorts, which I hate. And. But what It's. It's going to happen because those two leagues drive all the revenue and have all of the best teams, and they want to keep everything for themselves. In terms of how I would structure things currently, I think you get five years. You can play all five. No red shirts, blue shirts, anything. You have five years. Use them how you'd like. You get one free transfer, no questions asked, transfer wherever you want. You may then transfer again without penalty if your coach is fired or leaves. And then other than that, you got to go back to sitting out a year, because the guys who play at four schools in four years, it's just. It's not fun. And I. And I do recognize that they are taking advantage of a system that gives them the ability now to make the most money, and that's great. But I do think we have to have Some semblance back of like, I mean, you don't even know who's on your team anymore. It's crazy.

[Big T]

I wouldn't mind that. So there was. Who was it Michael Irvin that had that whole soliloquy about. There is something to be said about if you in training camp or if you in off season and you get beat and somebody's beat, you just leave rather than. Yeah. Rather than transferring. Like, the, the thing that does help people and it helped me. You know what I'm saying is I. There's somebody that's better than me currently, or at least in the eyes of these coaches, there's somebody's better than me. I compete. You know what I'm saying? There's something. Yeah, and there's something to that. Like, I, I do agree with that notion, but also, and this is why I say money ruins everything. If you have a better opportunity, I can't argue with kids. I'm not saying you are. I'm just saying in general, I can't argue a kid's desire to go and do that because I came from nothing. So if some kids come from nothing and they say, hey, we'll give you 100 grand a year and I can go back and send money to my mom, I'm a thousand percent doing it. I don't give a fuck about none of that competing shit. Doesn't bother me.

[Host 1]

No. And that's fine.

[Big T]

I understand that notion. And so it's hard for me to want to regulate that. Because if we want to be a free market capitalist society like we claim to be, then the regulations on it seem to be only for the enjoyment of the consumers and not for the workers, the kids who are actually producing the product. So logically, it doesn't follow to me to try to cap their market value.

[Host 1]

Well, first of all, I did, I did say one, transfer, whatever you want. And then even if your coach gets fired, you can transfer again. It's just, it's the four years and four schools. And I'm saying. Let me finish, let me finish. In professional sports, we don't allow guys to be a free agent every year, because that's insane. You sign a contract, we're going to pay you a lot of money and you play for us for 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, whatever years. And then at the conclusion of that contract, we can reassess. And if you've accrued enough value that you think you can go make more money somewhere else, then you have the opportunity to go do that. But we don't just let guys play for a different team every year because that's insane.

[Big T]

If a guy, if a guy want Darrell Revis, for example, if he wanted to, he could. I'm only signing a one year deal and then prime Darrell Revis, who arguably the best cornerback of all time, you're going to sign him for that one year that he wants to, right? And you can, you keep re upping for one year and you can, you will be a free agent every single year and get top dollar and to go to a team of your choice that is the free market. What I was kind of getting to was I don't see how logically we can want to cap the market value of a young athlete because it doesn't feel good, especially because we don't do it with the coaches. But I mean that's a separate argument. I just want to say I don't

[Host 1]

want to cap how much money they can make. Make as much money as you can. No, no, coaches sign contracts.

[Big T]

No, you're capping, you're capping their market value by dictating where they can and can't go. That is capping their market value.

[Host 1]

I guess you can make that argument to an extent. But like it's not like they're playing for free. They're going to make a bunch of money. They still have the ability to transfer.

[Big T]

But again if we are free market capitalists and if I know a big T, big t is 1, then we then then logically explain to me how other give me a reason why other than it doesn't feel good. Should we cap their market?

[Host 1]

Well, I have said forever as the system is currently constructed, like these guys are just doing what makes the most sense. If you're a great player, you should enter the portal every single year. Even if you don't go somewhere else, you can end up staying at Tennessee or wherever. But you should enter the portal and be like, hey, I'm going to go, you know, see what, what is out there. And guys are getting offers regardless of if they're in the portal or not. It's, it's a cluster. But like coaches, the argument was always, well, coaches can leave whenever they want, but the players can't. Well, coaches sign six year contracts and if they leave they have to pay a buyout to the school to buy them out of their contract. All I'm saying is these kids now that they are signing revenue share contracts with the schools, they should be real contracts. Like hey, this is a two year contract. If you want to sign it, we are going to pay you $4 million to play basketball here for two years. If you break it, you owe us that money back. And at the, if at the conclusion of two years, you think you can go make more money somewhere else, then your contract's up and best of luck to you. But if you're signing a contract, it should be a real contract. That's all.

[Big T]

I'm legally obligated to fulfill that contract. I'm fine with that. I would just argue that in order to protect. Because if I'm coming out of high school, I am kind of ripe for picking on understanding legal jargon and getting into contracts as an 18 year old, 17. 18 year old kid. So I would argue that the NCAA would have, or at least have some kind of certification for financial and legal representation for, for these kids. Because that's a lot to take on. And the irony of all this is we're doing all this instead of just calling this what it is. It's a farm club. We just don't want to do that and pay them as workers, give them workers compensation, like all of that shit. Because we're still avoiding all of that conversation. And it's what it is. We finally agreed to pay them something or let them have their name and likeness be monetized, but we're still avoiding that main conversation is that they are workers and this is a business and they should absolutely have be able to be unionized, have workers compensation. All of these things, health care, all, all these things is where the baby steps of this. But that's, that's what it's going to eventually lead to because all of this is just. We're avoiding it.

[Host 1]

With all of this said since we've been recording the number one player in the basketball transfer portal, Jucharis did announce he's going to Tennessee. So. Juke, we love you, buddy. Welcome. We are very excited to watch you play next season. You are an awesome ball player. And, and, and, and we love the Portal.

[Big T]

None of that. Should I just say we're gonna, we're

[Host 1]

gonna be so good next year, dude. We're gonna be incredible.

[Big T]

Well, congratulations, man.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Juke. Welcome Brody.

[Big T]

Welcome to Rocket Top, baby.

[Host 1]

We love the Portal.

[Big T]

That shit is hilarious though. We got any more voicemails?

[Caller]

Hey guys, this is Garrett from Pennsylvania calling in question for you guys. I'm getting married in July and trying to get some songs figured out here so my fiance and I have a first dance song picked out. But I'm trying to narrow down a song for the mother Sundance. So Just want to see if you guys got any ideas. Talk amongst yourself. I know Big T's getting married here coming up, so maybe he got something that would maybe spark my interest in something. I'm a huge Big T believer, so he could very much sway me. Anyways, stay handsome, stay beautiful. Love the pod and go, Big T.

[Host 1]

We appreciate you, brother.

[Big T]

So congrats on the wedding family. Yes, I'll give. I'll give my little tidbit on this. I think the mother. Because I could give you song suggestions. Right. But to me, that dilutes the. The act. I think a mother's son dance should have some kind of like, there's. There's got to be a connection to the song for you guys. So for me, when I. When I did get married a long time ago, it was the Neon moon.

[Host 1]

I love that.

[Guest 1]

That's such a good now.

[Big T]

Which is also on my top hundred songs of all time, by the way,

[Host 1]

as a thousand percent should be. You. You know what that song's about, though?

[Big T]

It's. It's not. I didn't.

[Host 1]

There's a rundown bar across the railroad track A table for two Way in the back Where I sit alone and I think of losing you yeah.

[Big T]

No, no, it's. The song doesn't like. It's the content of the song. I love the song correlated to me and my mom. It's just she used to play it all the time. And that was my low key introduction to liking country music because I didn't grow up around a lot of people that listen to country music, except for my mom. And when she used to play that, I used to love it when I was little. I used to be like, run it back. Run it back. And she loved that. I loved it. And so. And it reminds me of mom every time I hear it. And she. And also she used to sing it all the time. Like when we did karaoke stuff. That's her, like one of her go to songs. So, like, when I listen to it, I just think of my mom. And so it's like, it's a connection to a song that has to do with my mother has nothing to do with the content or it could. It couldn't. But I just think that it should have some kind of connection to you and your mom. So if y' all have a song, if a song makes you think of her, if a song of you, a song makes her think of you, I think that's. That's. That's what it should be.

[Host 1]

I love that. And it's one of my favorite songs ever.

[Big T]

It.

[Host 1]

I do think at a wedding when you lose your one and only, there's only room here for the lonely doesn't play as well, but I love that y' all love that song.

[Big T]

Another beautifully written song. Watch your broken dreams dance in and

[Host 1]

out of the beans the week after my wedding. If you want to stay for a week, we'll do the show the week after. And the following Friday, Brooks and Dunn is here with Morgan Wallen at Soldier Food Field. It's going to be sick.

[Big T]

You had me with Brooks. You lost me with Morgan.

[Host 1]

Well, you can leave in the middle. It's going to be awesome. I do. That song is just an amazing song.

[Big T]

It's a beautiful song.

[Host 1]

I am Garrett. Believe it or not, brother, I'm in the same boat. I've got five weeks. I was actually having this conversation yesterday. I don't know what song we're gonna do.

[Big T]

Do you have, like, a list? Maybe we can.

[Host 1]

I've got nothing. I don't now.

[Guest 1]

My brother did the same thing. Like, my mom's favorite song is Build me a Buttercup. So they did that song.

[Big T]

Why do you build me up? But that one.

[Guest 1]

Yes, that's a good one.

[Big T]

What's your mom's favorite song?

[Host 1]

I don't know. You right now, probably. I would guess it's like the Cranberries or something.

[Big T]

But right now, ask her what her favorite song is.

[Host 1]

So, yeah, I. I'll text my mom, see what her favorite songs are, and we'll look into it. But, yeah, I've got to do that. I've still got to do cake. I've got a lot of stuff I got to do.

[Big T]

You know, I'll do that, too.

[Host 1]

I'm asking my mom's favorite song.

[Guest 1]

My mom's favorite song is September by Earth, Wind Fire.

[Big T]

There you go. She got a little. She got a little flavor. I like that.

[Guest 1]

She used to come, like, whenever she would visit me at school. She used to go up to the DJs at college bars and just flash September by Earth, Wind and Fire and say, please play this. And then they would. Every night.

[Big T]

And every DJ loves that, by the way.

[Host 1]

I believe I have a meeting with the DJ this Friday. So meeting that should probably be ironed out by then. I won't be attending, just to be clear.

[Guest 1]

But I think there is a meeting with your DJ happening, correct?

[Host 1]

There have been meetings with lots of people that I have not attended.

[Guest 1]

How if a.

[Big T]

Put in a good word for me, hey, there's going to be a Brother there, and he might get a little saucy and request something.

[Guest 1]

Dude, that.

[Host 1]

Would you. When you say a little sauce. Oh, you mean drunk.

[Big T]

I'm gonna get. Yeah, I'm about to get lit at join.

[Host 1]

But no, but I. When you. I thought you meant saucy, like with the song.

[Guest 1]

We can do that too.

[Big T]

What do you mean? Like, how did.

[Host 1]

Like, what kind. What kind of songs are you requesting?

[Big T]

It depends on how I'm feeling. I'm definitely gonna do the vibe of temperature Check. I'm not just gonna play Tupac. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna play some.

[Host 1]

We got. We got some songs that I think you'll like.

[Big T]

Okay, cool. You know, shit. Like, I'm not going. I'm not gonna request. Not like us. I'm not gonna do it. I should, but I won't. Out of respect.

[Host 1]

I think we're. I think the vibe will be lower key for a couple hours. And then once the clock hits a certain point, we're. We're gonna be like, it's. It's gonna change if you.

[Big T]

If you can't jam, get on about the death.

[Host 1]

Right?

[Big T]

Because that's the one thing I hate at weddings is when people don't dance. I will set that off if. If there's any tentativeness. Big T, don't worry. I will set that off. I'll dance.

[Host 1]

I can tell you from being at my brother in law's wedding a couple months ago, that will not be an issue.

[Big T]

Beautiful. Because I will. I get it in during weddings. I do my thing.

[Host 1]

That will not be an issue. You will have plenty of company.

[Big T]

More the merrier. Which is. That's why I'm check the temperature, you know, saying, let me see the. The. The vibe. You know what I'm saying? I could. I'm good with like. Like I said, I don't discriminate when it comes to music, dog. I have an eclectic music taste.

[Host 1]

So I'll send you the. If I have our. Our list that we sent the DJ of like must plays and can't plays, I'll. I'll find it and send it to you.

[Big T]

You have a can't playlist?

[Host 1]

That. That's a thing? Yeah, I only put two or three songs on there.

[Guest 1]

May I ask.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah. What are the camp.

[Host 1]

Well, it's actually a lot of songs. It's only two things. I put Happy by Pharrell Fair and I put any Bruno Mars.

[Big T]

What?

[Host 1]

I said no Bruno Mars.

[Guest 1]

Can I ask if you guys are going to have like the cha Cha slide.

[Host 1]

I'm not planning on it, but I did not explicitly forbid it.

[Guest 1]

See, I will be at my wedding. I will be like forbidding Cha Cha slide, Cupid shuffle, any of those types of like line dance.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I hope that doesn't happen.

[Guest 1]

I think you maybe in the meeting need to make that.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I'll write that down.

[Big T]

What about wobble? Easy. Wobble is you Wobble? Is he. Yeah, that's on the border. Yeah. Yeah, I will. I will cut the rug with that one.

[Guest 1]

I'm so excited to go to a wedding with you guys.

[Big T]

It's gonna be lit.

[Guest 1]

And the fact that it's Big T's wedding.

[Host 1]

Right?

[Guest 1]

That'll be so fun.

[Big T]

It'll be dope. So my mom just text back. I asked her what her favorite songs of all time. She gave me four Fair. She said Flashlight by Parliament. I don't know if you heard that great song Flashlight Crazy by Patsy Cline. One of my all time favorites. Loves Tranq Confunction. And then she always tells it's a song that I did. Oh, that's beautiful. She's been a mom.

[Host 1]

She didn't say Neon Moon.

[Caller]

I didn't.

[Big T]

It's a bar. No, she didn't. She didn't. But beautiful song. That's gonna be fun, dog. I'm excited.

[Host 1]

It'll be fun. And I'll. You wanna. You wanna stay till Monday? We'll do the. Or we'll record the recap. Maybe we'll do like a little recap like Saturday or something. Record something right after.

[Big T]

Could be. If you can get. If you can get Eric on board. You know what I'm saying?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Hard to trap that little mouse in one area.

[Host 1]

Figure.

[Guest 1]

When do you leave for your honeymoon?

[Host 1]

Not till the week after. Oh, because of Wallen and Brooks and.

[Big T]

Done.

[Host 1]

I'm not missing that show.

[Guest 1]

Oh, really?

[Big T]

Yeah, man of principle.

[Host 1]

And then. But then it's also then it leads into July 4th, so I get an extra week.

[Guest 1]

Oh, I see.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Guest 1]

And the dozen playoffs obviously too.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I hadn't even considered that at the time. But they worked out for that as well.

[Big T]

I don't know if you guys know, but I, you know, I'm the. I'm the guy he's gonna call if there's ever a discrepancy.

[Host 1]

Yeah, you're the.

[Big T]

Yeah, the commissioner or whatever. There has been no discrepancies thus far.

[Host 1]

So wait, you may need to be here for the playoffs. That's usually when stuff goes down.

[Big T]

I'll pull up if I gotta go on it's the.

[Guest 1]

It's the week after Big T's wedding.

[Host 1]

Yeah. So you should stay for that week and we'll go to Brooks and Dunn.

[Big T]

Brother, I'm not going to Brooks and Done with you.

[Host 1]

You don't want to see Neon Moon.

[Big T]

I do not want to see. You know, I don't like crowds. I don't like people. I like persons. I like people.

[Host 1]

You know Soldier Field? Yeah. The worst. Worst to ever do it.

[Big T]

I got it. Anytime I'm in a crowd, I got to be saucy to deal with my anxiety around people. Do you play there, Soldier Field? Yes. Some of the worst grass in league

[Host 1]

checks out because everything else about the stadium sucks, too.

[Big T]

Shit was ass dog. But I did play. It was like, wet. It was rainy, it was windy. Oh, just one of the worst football. We ran the ball like 40 times or something like that. I woke up and couldn't walk. But this ain't about me. Excited. You're getting Seabrooks done.

[Host 1]

Me too. Is that it?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

This voice, man, it's gotta be fixed.

[Guest 1]

Have some fun.

[Big T]

Hot water. Excuse me? Hot water. Tea and some lemon with a little honey in there. Won't fix your voice, but it'll feel good.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Guest 1]

I have an extra bag.

[Big T]

May relax the vocal cords a little bit.

[Host 1]

Throat coat. Is that what you said?

[Guest 1]

Yeah, it's tea for your throat. Supports throat health.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Guest 1]

I have an extra bag if you want.

[Host 1]

Thank you.

[Big T]

I will be. I will be using that line today, baby girl. I got a throat coat. All right, Macadosians. We'll check on you on Thursday. Tap in spread love. It's the Brooklyn way. I don't know if our little fella's gonna be back then. But if not.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Because there are things Tuesday night, so. I don't know.

[Big T]

It's all good. We'll have a good sold, man. We'll make sure. We'll make sure we get Helen Keller on deck.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Big T]

Faction.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I'm excited about that. If PFT's not here, we'll get somebody in here that cares about Helen Keller.

[Big T]

Because let's get somebody blind on. See what they feel about her little representation.

[Guest 1]

Not.

[Host 1]

Not what?

[Guest 1]

Never mind.

[Big T]

What?

[Guest 1]

I thought he said something else and I was gonna make a bad joke.

[Big T]

No, you thought I was gonna say somebody deaf. On. No, that's crazy.

[Guest 1]

No, I thought you would say what they see about her. And I said, well,

[Big T]

they can get Intervisions. Stevie made a whole album about it.

[Guest 1]

Should we get Stevie Wonder on?

[Big T]

If you can grab him.

[Host 1]

I. I think that. That would be a worthwhile guest.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. One of the goats. Oh, also, he's got two on my top 100 all the time.

[Guest 1]

Which one?

[Big T]

Let me know. It's Superstitious and As. As is one of the best love songs I know.

[Guest 1]

The first. I know Superstitious or listen.

[Big T]

Listen to ads and think of the person that you love romantically and tell me you don't get the fifis. All bubble.

[Host 1]

Beautiful.

[Big T]

All right, Macadosians, we'll catch y' all on Thursday. Peace, love and chicken grease.

[Host 1]

Goodbye.