The Baby Mansion Mystery | March 19, 2026

Summary

Macrodosing: The Baby Mansion Mystery | March 19, 2026

Hosts: PFT Commenter, Arian Foster, Big T, Eric, MacKenzie
Podcast: Barstool Sports – Macrodosing
Date: March 19, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Macrodosing centers around the bizarre “Baby Mansion” case—a wild, real-life story about a wealthy Chinese couple in California found with dozens of surrogate-born children in their mansion. The crew unpacks the New Yorker article detailing the case, discusses the American surrogacy landscape, and speculates on possible motives and wider implications, including conspiratorial angles.

The show also pivots through a range of topics: World Baseball Classic frustrations, Afroman’s legal saga, NCAA basketball previews, college and sports fandom, pop culture bucket lists, and the nostalgia of classic movies and Blockbuster Video.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. World Baseball Classic Meltdown & Surrogacy Segue (05:13–15:41)

• The episode begins with Big T and Arian airing out intense emotions about Team USA's loss in the WBC, pointing out managerial decisions and the weird club-versus-country pitching restrictions.
• Segue into broader American sports, then into politics and social issues, eventually landing on the “Baby Mansion” discussion.

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2. The Baby Mansion Mystery: What Happened? (102:23–131:11)

a. Major Details & Timeline

• The Case:
  • A Chinese couple, Guojun “Juan” X. (former Chinese official) and Sylvia Zhang, living in a Los Angeles suburb, amass 20+ children via American surrogates.
  • The home is discovered after tips of alleged child abuse and neighbors reporting concerning activity (children with shaved heads, surveillance cameras everywhere).
  • Surrogates initially recruited via a “Mark Surrogacy” agency—actually just run by the couple themselves.
• Surrogate Mothers’ Experience:
  • Women like Kayla Elliot describe being first convinced by an “ordinary” request, then realizing the couple already had a dozen children via different surrogates.
  • After seeing red flags and hearing about children possibly being mistreated, some surrogates refuse to hand over newborns.
  • The couple sues surrogates for breach of contract and $1M+ damages.
• Child Welfare Investigation:
  • Police and the FBI raid the mansion; alleged video evidence of nannies abusing children.
  • "Nanny" implicated caught on security cameras physically mistreating kids—then disappears and is wanted by police.
  • Children ultimately placed into state custody, but couples keep seeking more surrogate births in various states.
  • Children found grouped together in quasi-classroom environments, reminiscent of "Stranger Things".

b. Motives and Theories (105:30–115:12)

• Conspiracy Angle:
  • Eric speculates the couple might be "playing the odds"—raising numerous US-born children to potentially infiltrate or influence American society/politics (e.g., naming kids after US presidents).
  • Hosts debate: was this about political influence, personal ego, or typical billionaire overreach (“Elon Musk archetype”)?
  • Both Arian and Big T note the couple’s penchant for American political imagery and possible influence from past frustrations as Chinese party insiders.
• Legality & Loopholes:
  • No outright child or sex trafficking discovered, but plenty of possible fraud, endangerment, and surrogacy legal gray zones.
  • United States largely unregulated re: surrogacy, except in New York (requires a license).
  • Case draws attention of US Congress, leading to the proposal of the SAFE KIDS Act (113:19).

c. Notable Quotes

• Eric:
  • "[The couple] wanted to have all these kids on the soil... They wanted one of the kids to be president and so they wanted to have all these kids on [American] soil." (106:42)
• Big T:
  • "He named several of his kids after United States presidents... carrying business cards that called himself Trump Doge Member, Official Trump Cabinet Member and Trump Advisor." (109:02)
• Aryan:
  • "... the agency that they were talking to or thought they were talking to was just that couple. They ran it." (110:52)
• Eric:
  • "I think this was just like a little sweatshop set up to try and infiltrate and they just wanted to play all the odds that they could." (109:02)
• Big T:
  • "Commercial surrogacy is for the most part only available in the United States. We're the only country that like has it set up as a business..." (120:56)

d. Broader Context & Risk Factors

• 40%+ of international surrogacy contracts in the US are initiated by Chinese nationals, raising eyebrows about motives, potential for exploitation, and regulatory shortcomings.
• Surrogate compensation (~$45,000–$60,000 per birth) seen as low for the risk and emotional cost.
• Children seized by the state across multiple states; couple embroiled in multiple lawsuits but remains at large.

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3. Afroman’s Legal Battle – “Lemon Pound Cake” (33:01–45:06)

• Eric recounts the story of Afroman, raided by police, who then used home security footage in diss tracks criticizing officers (“Lemon Pound Cake”).
• Police sue Afroman for defamation—sparking debate on privacy, civil rights, and the right to use own security footage.
• Quote:
  • "If they win this case, I feel like that sets a horrible precedent that you could bust into somebody's house and then sue them for any kind of public backlash." (41:38)

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4. Tucker Carlson, Anti-Israel Claims, and Dog Whistle Politics (21:17–30:20)

• Hosts get into a spirited debate about the claims against Tucker Carlson talking to Iranian officials OFF the record—sparking antisemitism accusations, Israel/US relationship, and the murkiness of modern political “dog whistles.”
• Quote:
  • "If you call somebody antisemitic for criticizing anything Israel ever does, that's actually antisemitic..." —Big T (28:41)

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5. Sports & NCAA Tournament: Bracket Vibes, College vs NBA, Chalk vs Cinderella (59:33–131:11)

• Eric, Arian, and Big T break down NCAA tournament picks—debating the value of “vibes” picks vs. analytics vs. fandom.
  • College basketball’s NIL era making the sport more top-heavy and fun to watch.
  • NBA suffers “unwatchability” this time of year due to lopsided matches and play-in tournament incentives.
  • Conversation veers into sports venue aesthetics (Idaho’s stadium!), retro college branding, and great sports days.
• Quotes:
  • "The Cinderella, they're always going to exist in the first, but then it's probably going to get more and more chalky in like the Final Fours." —Big T (132:17)
  • “The product has gotten better. Scoring is up. It’s just so much more fun now.” —Aryan (70:06)

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6. Pop Culture Blind Spots: The Movie Pact (82:03–99:40)

• The crew admits to never having watched certain classic movies—leading to a pact to watch “Training Day,” “The Godfather,” and “Christmas Vacation” by June 1.
• Lists of classics missed by the hosts spark laughter and confession about long movies, 90s nostalgia, and Blockbuster Video memories.
• Quote:
  • "It's a great two hours that you're going to have. You should be looking forward to it." —Big T (82:52)
  • “I wish I could watch [Training Day] again for the first time.” —Aryan

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Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• On the Baby Mansion Mystery:
  • "This was like... Stranger Things, where they have the kids in the little compound, with shaved heads." —Aryan (110:52)
• On Afroman:
  • “He makes songs about all the sheriffs... 'Lemon Pound Cake'... It’s a funny ass song. Run it up; shit is comedy.” —Eric (41:38)
• On NCAA Bracket Fandom:
  • “This is vibes. I watched 30 seconds of each team’s highlights before I made a pick!” —Eric (59:40)
• On NCAA Surrogacy Loopholes:
  • “It does seem like there should be some more regulations around this type of thing, right?” —Big T (122:01)

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Important Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamps | |-------------------------------------------|-----------------| | WBC frustration, Surrogacy pivot | 05:13–15:41 | | Tucker Carlson controversy | 21:17–30:20 | | Afroman’s legal saga | 33:01–45:06 | | NCAA picks and discussion | 59:33–131:11 | | The Baby Mansion Mystery (main segment) | 102:23–131:11 | | Movie/Culture confessions | 82:03–99:40 |

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Episode Tone & Style

True to Macrodosing’s brand, the conversation is fast, funny, occasionally chaotic, and filled with internet-literate asides, pop culture references, friendly roasts, and wild tangent debates. Serious topics are handled with a mix of genuine curiosity, regular skepticism, and dry humor.

Example:

• “He had surveillance in every room...[he’s] just, in addition to being a weirdo, outstanding at paperwork.” —Big T

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a wide-ranging ride, but the heart is the outrageous, still-developing “Baby Mansion” conspiracy—a story well-suited to Macrodosing’s blend of skepticism, curiosity, and irreverence.

Listeners will come away with:

• A thorough understanding of the Baby Mansion mystery, US and Chinese surrogacy context, and the possible legal/ethical minefields.
• Plenty of NCAA tourney vibes, college sports love, and bracket theory.
• Pure Macrodosing energy: comedy, conspiracies, and crew camaraderie.

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For More

Listen to the full episode at Barstool Macrodosing or on your favorite podcast app.

Transcript

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[Aryan]

Yeah. Do you think our. Do our downloads go down on this show?

[Big T]

I think they probably do because.

[Aryan]

Because you're all day.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Big T]

We got the people that would listen in the afternoon and that's out. We're still going to get the mornings. If this might be the last piece of like non sports media that a lot of people consume before the weekend.

[Aryan]

So thank you for that.

[Big T]

Yeah, appreciate that. So if you want to just do like a pallet cleanser, not think about sports for a little bit before maybe we'll talk some sports too actually. But it might be the last thing that you listen to.

[Aryan]

Maybe you save this for Friday morning because Thursday, all day basketball and then you've got it. You've got to reset quickly. To be back at it on Friday. So a nice Friday morning, you know?

[Big T]

Yeah. And if you lose, if you lose a lot of bets on Thursday, you're not going to want to wake up and listen to, like, the. The sports talk radio. You're not going to listen to any basketball podcasts. Listen to us. We'll take your mind off it for a second because we're going to talk about nice, light, easy topics like whether or not Mark derosa should be in prison.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

You think jail or prison? Big T. Mark D. Rosa, the. The manager of the U.S. baseball team in the World Baseball Classic. They go down to Venezuela. They lose three to two.

[Aryan]

I had wild swings of emotions last night, so I was watching the game with Jeff Lowe, and the first seven innings are just torture. We were at a bar. You remember the Greg discussion we had the other day, where he was loudly cheering for Vanderbilt? Uh, we had a situation like that with a guy cheering for Venezuela at this bar. And we're just three up, three down. Three up, three down. Can't get a runner in scoring position the entire game, and this guy's just over there clapping, venezuela, yay. And Jeff and I are both really, really getting annoyed at this point. Then finally, eighth inning, Bryce Harper to run. Cockshot. Just 450 dead center. The place goes nuts. And then immediately, we, instead of bringing in the best reliever in baseball right now, who I believe hitters are over the last 50 against, we bring in Garrett Whitlock, who had pitched well in the world baseball class. I'm not pinning this all on him because I guess derosa made an agreement with the Padres that he would only bring in Mason Miller in a save situation.

[Big T]

Yeah. So why is that? I was trying to think from, like, a player safety standpoint, like, what reason possible.

[Aryan]

And the Cubs, I guess, asked Venezuela as well. Don't use Daniel Palencia. I think they said it all. And then the manager was like, well, what a safe situation. Like to win the world baseball class. And they were like, fine. So that's when they brought him in. We got to get rid of that. If you're playing in the thing, then you play in it.

[Eric]

What?

[Big T]

I agree.

[Aryan]

When they're on Team usa, they are on Team usa. They're not. I think Ronald Acuna had a. An Instagram comment on a post where they were talking about the organizations asking the teams to, you know, not do stuff with the players. Whatever he said, we're not playing for those teams right now. We're playing for Venezuela.

[Big T]

Yeah, it's. It's actually absurd that you're going to like micro you have you got a different set of rules for these guys based on like what their home club would. Would like you to do.

[Aryan]

And then had we brought in Mason Miller in the ninth, I'm pretty confident he would have not allowed a run. And then Venezuela presumably would not have used palencia in the 9th because they agreed to not use him unless it was a safe situation too.

[Big T]

That's crazy. And when this tournament started. Actually, no, I'm going to take that back. It was when Mark derosa said that thing about like, oh, we've made it to the next round, whatever, when we actually hadn't. At that point, I think I still thought that Mark DeRosa was a manager of a team that I just didn't care about. Like you had told me. Mark DeRosa, Pittsburgh Pirates manager.

[Aryan]

What you thought he was a manager?

[Big T]

I thought that he got hired like this season or last season maybe. And it just slipped through the cracks and I was like, surely the United States baseball team.

[Aryan]

No.

[Big T]

Would have a major league manager as their manager.

[Aryan]

No, he works for mlb. I know.

[Big T]

And then I looked up. I like, wait, this guy's a studio analyst.

[Aryan]

MacKenzie was probably his producer. Yep.

[Big T]

Has he MLB Central. But wait, actually not like producer, but I definitely edited like elements for the show that's like the US Is playing in flag football in the Olympics. Head coach Terry Bradshaw.

[Aryan]

I mean, those at least don't. There's not a professional league with coaches or that I'm aware of.

[Big T]

It's crazy though, that Mark DeRosa is just a TV guy.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Big T]

He played though, right? Was he good or. Yeah, he's pretty good. I know Big T doesn't.

[Aryan]

I don't know that that's the word idea.

[Big T]

He was, he was. He was a good baseball player. Okay. Now also, he just didn't bet Cal Raleigh last night.

[Aryan]

Well, Cal Raleigh stunk the whole time.

[Big T]

I know. He's fine with that. I know he's stunk, but also he's. He mashes and we needed a. We needed.

[Aryan]

But he hadn't.

[Big T]

We needed a home run. I'm okay going down with. With our best players if they're not like he's. I don't know. I. I also don't like the fact I like scubal. I like him a lot.

[Aryan]

So this scumbag.

[Big T]

This is not anti scumbag.

[Aryan]

Done forever.

[Big T]

The fact that he showed up last night wearing the team USA Hockey jersey, he's like, I'm here to support my guys in any way. That I can, like, I understand you could have pitched. I understand the sentiment behind it. Like, you don't want to leave your boys. But also, like, he's in a tough spot because he's got some money that's going to be coming his way. And if he does get injured, he could potentially cost him.

[Aryan]

Then don't play at all.

[Big T]

Right, Right. He could potentially cost himself hundreds of millions of dollars. I don't think that's an exaggeration. Right.

[Aryan]

Yeah. I mean that. And that's a. Then don't. Then don't be on the team, Teresa.

[Big T]

UCL doesn't recover the way that he wants to. Hundreds of millions of dollars he could cost himself.

[Aryan]

But he did pitch in a relatively meaningless game for a couple innings and then was like, hey, I'm leaving, but. But then if we make the championship, I want to come back and be in the dugout.

[Big T]

Well, he also said that he was going to stay, and then he had a meeting, presumably with Scott Boris, and then he's like, okay, yeah, I, I do actually have to leave. But then you show up wearing the. I don't get it.

[Aryan]

No. Yeah, I, I'm not a fan of Tarek Scuba right now. I'm not a fan of Mark Derosa. Not a fan of the offense last night in general. Yeah, it was a. It was. But. But when I said the violent swings of emotion. So we tie the game, then we lose. I'm seething when we lose. But then I watch for a little while and I watch Ronald out there, who was in the same spot where he tore his acl. And like, those guys are like, I saw Eugenio Suarez lead the team in like a great prayer. And like, they were all. I was like, you know what? Good for these guys. Like, they wanted it so bad. That's so cool for Ronald. Then I saw Mikel Garcia, who won the mvp, tweeted like, haha, USA clowns. Then I got more mad than I was the first time. And now I, I, I, you know, next day, whatever. I'm happy for Ronald. But. But, man, we. The. Whenever the next World Baseball Classic is, which I think is in flux because the Olympics, like, they don't know what the deal is going to be. We need the real, actual Avengers. If you say no to playing on that team, like, you are not a patriot. Like, I mean, there were plenty of guys, like, pitching especially, I think I saw last night, Garrett Crochet said no, Max Freed said no. And I get it. Like, there, there is an injury risk that. That happens when you're playing sports. If we don't win the next World Baseball Classic, we should quit playing in it, because at some point, we got to win one.

[Big T]

Listen, Big T. I don't. I don't disagree. I don't. We should never lose the national pastime.

[Aryan]

I mean, if we lost one out of four, like, you know, whatever. There are other good countries at baseball, but I. We can't keep losing these things. It's embarrassing. And Venezuela, good ball players over there. Great team, but, I mean, Eduardo Rodriguez made us look like the Colorado Rockies. The Nationals beat Team Venezuela five to one a couple weeks ago, if that gives you.

[Big T]

You know, that actually makes me feel super excited about the Nats this year.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Let's go. Brady House back.

[Aryan]

Tennessee commitment.

[Big T]

Dylan Cruz. Maybe. We'll see.

[Aryan]

But. Yeah, but. Yeah, it stunk.

[Big T]

Yep. Tough night. Tough night of baseball. I tried to play Freebird before the game just to fire myself up, and I. I ended up not recording the sound for it. I don't know if you saw that video.

[Aryan]

I was at the bar, so I didn't. I saw you tweet it, but I

[Big T]

didn't have sound, so. Yeah, if you had. Well, the. The video didn't have sound, so. Ah, you got the full experience if you just watched any of it.

[Aryan]

Yeah, I just scrolled past it.

[Big T]

Yeah. It's an all time. All time screw up by me. And I. I do put a little bit of the blame on myself for that.

[Aryan]

I was dominating the Touch Tunes at this bar. You remember our guy from Milwaukee last year who gave us all the Touch Tunes credits?

[Big T]

Yep.

[Aryan]

So I. I own the Touch Tunes every place I go into. And I played Freebird. We had. You know, we were trying to get the vibes up, and it just never worked.

[Big T]

Show me your. Your history, your Touchstones history.

[Aryan]

I mean, it was all country music, and then Freebird. I didn't know you could do a history.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's very helpful.

[Aryan]

Another employee from this company found out the bar we were at and carpet bombed the Touch tunes with a couple of interesting songs. Where's my history?

[Big T]

It should be right there.

[Aryan]

Oh, here it is. Yeah, there's some. Some Wallen, some Ella Langley, some Luke Combs.

[Big T]

You played Rocky Top?

[Aryan]

Was there Luke Combs? Yeah, I did play Rocky Top.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

It's smart because I was wearing USA Stuff, so nobody knew it was me. I was inconspicuous.

[Big T]

Could have been anybody there.

[Aryan]

Obviously. Every time I go to a Touch Tunes, I start out with Neon Moon. That's the first Every time.

[Big T]

Good pick.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Maybe the best song ever. Aaron, what are you up to today?

[Eric]

I'm chilling. Sorry. I just don't know what the. Going on in the baseball world right now, so I couldn't partake in.

[Aryan]

It's bad times for us.

[Big T]

I bet you would have really liked the World Baseball Classic.

[Eric]

Probably, but there's too much to follow. I gotta follow the brewers first. That's all. That's all I got going on.

[Aryan]

You would love watching the, like, Venezuela, Dominican Republic. Those teams when. When they're out there, they are.

[Eric]

I mean, most. Most of the brewers are from there.

[Aryan]

Yeah. Cheerio. And. And all those guys. But they bat flip to the moon and they like. They treat it like it is.

[Eric]

Yo, bad flipping. Should be. That should just be a thing. I love that.

[Aryan]

I think it pretty much is here at this point. Like, I think 10 years ago, pitchers got really upset by. As long as it's not crazy.

[Eric]

Stop doing. Stop doing them, you know, high fastball. I agree with your feelings, I think,

[Aryan]

but it's like if you hit a walk off homer, throw it to the moon, but if you, you know, down three to one in the fourth inning, that. I think that's what, that's what makes pitchers mad.

[Eric]

It still looks good on the highlights, though. You know what I mean?

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Mm. Yeah, I gotta. I got a. I got a question for you, Big T. Yeah. There's a guy by the name of James Fishback. Have you heard of him?

[Aryan]

Yes, I am vaguely familiar with him.

[Eric]

All right, so for those that don't know, James Fishback is running to,

[Aryan]

I think, governor of Florida.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Eric]

For Ron DeSantis spot. And he has. This is conflicting with your ideas. I want to see where you stand on it. He's running to have onlyfans girls pay a 50% sin tax. So if you're in the state of Florida and you are on OnlyFans, he says you should pay a 50% sin tax. Would say you.

[Aryan]

Yeah. This was he. At once every three or four weeks, he has a new thing come out that he's like, I. I get what he's going for. But also like, I don't know. I don't. I would. I don't think it's a smart policy to advocate for if you're trying to get elected. Like, I see where he's coming from. I don't know. I'm not, I'm not staunchly pro or anti. I mean, they would just all move to another state. But also, like, you're supposed to not have Income tax there. So.

[Eric]

Yeah, no, I just thought that was hilarious.

[Aryan]

Yeah, he's had a few syntax.

[Big T]

Yeah, I don't, I don't like the idea of the government determining like, like punishing industries that they think are morally dubious, like at their discretion, just make it illegal then. But yeah, yeah, by like imposing higher fines on. And usually the people that are most vocal about that type of thing are the people that subscribe. Like, let's see, open up the account, dude. Let's see, let's see the credit card statement.

[Eric]

He got four or five subscriptions easy.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Have you seen his down payment assistance thing?

[Eric]

I have not.

[Aryan]

You should look into that. I forget all the details, but he wants to have like a $10,000 down payment assistance for if you're buying your first house. Or like I, I forget all the details, but it was, it was an interesting policy, but he's, he's an interesting guy.

[Big T]

Those are, Yeah, I, I like those policies when they have like first time home buyers assistance. I think by and large those are usually good ideas. This guy is the psycho though, right? Fish back. Is he the one that told the other guy like, pull up, let's see how black you are?

[Aryan]

I'm not familiar with that.

[Big T]

The guy that he's running against.

[Aryan]

Oh, well, he is running against Byron Donald, right?

[Big T]

Yeah. Who's a, who's a black guy running for the Republican nominee, right?

[Aryan]

Yeah. He's a congressman, I think in Naples. One of my favorite spots.

[Big T]

Yeah. So fish back was like shooting a gun and he's like, pull up, let's see how black you really are.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Aryan]

I'm unfamiliar with that interaction.

[Big T]

This guy is, he's probably not, I hope he's not going to win.

[Eric]

Our political climate is the funniest it's been in my lifetime. This, this man right now is sitting, I just went to his, his page. He's right now, he's sitting in front of the White House with a small podium and he says, I challenged Donald Trump to tell me why we are in Iran, which I don't hate.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Eric]

But he's definitely out there by himself just in front of a mic right now, dog.

[Big T]

That's good. Like, I, I, I like that position. Maybe like don't threaten to shoot your opponent if, if he's black. Can we work on that part? I don't think that's too much to ask.

[Aryan]

You can't.

[Eric]

None of us are perfect. You can't, you know, I mean, enough

[Big T]

of these purity tests

[Eric]

accept me flaws and all. Yeah.

[Big T]

Hey, this is PFT from part of my take a terrible call by the refs, a back breaking interception in the red zone. Brutal clock management. At the end of a half when the season has you ready to snap, don't break, snap into a Slim Jim instead. Slim Jim is not just a meat stick, it's the og. Slim Jim is the bold spicy snack that snaps back. No fumbles, no bad calls, just bold flavor that can never be sidelined. So if your team has you feeling like you're ready to snap, call a timeout and snap into a Slim Jim. Speaking of the weird political climate, I, I texted the group chat this last night because I saw some of the comments. We put out a clip of us talking about the Tucker Carlson story where he is, he's being accused by the government of potentially talking behind the scenes to the leadership in Iran. And then that could potentially be a crime. Obviously there's a lot of stuff that we talked about in that discussion that wasn't in the clip. And if you have any context to the show, like we kind of understand which way the wind blows when it comes to how these things get sorted out. But then I, I started getting called a lib for almost not taking the side of, but for presenting the side of the story that Donald Trump is putting out. And then I was confused for a moment and I was like, what? So if you, so if you look at the flowchart and it's Tucker and Donald Trump fighting, if you take the side of Donald Trump, you're a lib, right? Is that kind of what if we're saying like who's, who's less lib?

[Eric]

It's getting, it's getting spooky out here, man. I don't even know anymore because I,

[Big T]

I've always, I've maintained the, the, the fact that if you disagree with anything Trump says, that doesn't make you a lib either. Because half the shit that he does, if another president did it, it would fall right into like liberal president's policies. Like, I'm not talking about what the things he says or some of the like culture war stuff, but his policies by and large, you cannot call him conservative. He's like, he's a mix of he's himself is what he is. But I guess that makes, that would make sense then, that if Tucker and Trump are fighting and yeah, Trump would be the lib and or at the very least the neocon and then Tucker would be the former neocon who's learned from his neocon failures, is now more actual conservative. Did I get that. Right.

[Aryan]

Tradcon.

[Big T]

Tradcon.

[Aryan]

Do people say that? Should we, should we try to make that a thing?

[Big T]

Tradcon. Yeah, that's a. I think you have

[Eric]

to be chronically online to even attempt to understand what you motherfuckers is talking about right now.

[Big T]

I think, I think it's hard to follow.

[Eric]

That's hard to follow, dog.

[Big T]

Tradcon owns the Jaguars, doesn't he?

[Aryan]

That's good.

[Big T]

Yeah, it's good. Thank you.

[Eric]

You've seen that Nicholas Cage. Gif or he's. Yeah, the wind's blowing it. That's what it's been like since I don't got Twitter no more.

[Big T]

It's nice. It's nice.

[Eric]

It's amazing. It's. It's. It's a great, great. Should have did it a while back, but it's amazing.

[Big T]

So. So most of the comments are saying that Tucker is being set up by the Israeli government because Tucker has been anti APAC and anti Israel, and so he's being set up somehow and then got turned into the CIA by the Israeli forces working inside our own federal government. And this is where it gets really dicey. This is where it gets really dicey. So I'm going to try to explain my thoughts the best that I can. Israel is not. Israel and Jewish people are two separate things. Yes, Israel is a country that's predominantly inhabited by Jewish people, but Israel and Jewish people are not the same thing. So if you criticize Israel, that should not be taken to be criticizing Jewish people. Because what happens if you do that? Then it quickly becomes a situation where anytime Israel would make a mistake or do something that we would disagree with, it's an attack on all Jewish people, which it shouldn't be.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Big T]

So I do think that there's a lot. We've got a big history of working alongside of and also sometimes like back channeling in opposition to Israeli intelligence. And there's definitely a possibility that some stuff like that is going down right now. So I don't. We're. We're in a big time wait for all the facts to come out about what's going on with Tucker talking behind the scenes to, to Iran.

[Aryan]

Do you think anything ever happens with that? I just can't see them doing it.

[Big T]

I think what Tucker, like, trying, like

[Aryan]

trying to really go after.

[Big T]

I think. I think the by far the most likely thing to happen would be if there was anything. Trump calls him into the Oval Offices, like, hey, I got you.

[Aryan]

What? We already did.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah, I, I got you. Well, that that might have been to like feed him misinformation. And again, this might be information that's being fed to us through outside channels. But I think what would happen would be Trump calls him and is like, hey, I, I see that you've been doing all this stuff now you're going to work with me and you're going to owe me favors otherwise.

[Aryan]

But do you think Tucker would go for that?

[Big T]

Yes. I don't trust Tucker as a big time cheerleader to the Iraq war.

[Aryan]

Yeah. But he's been going against, you know, the establishment recently.

[Big T]

But I, I, my, my theory, or I guess my worldview was very much informed by who was in favor of that and who was anti that. So that's why I will never trust Hillary Clinton because she was dumb enough to go along with what everyone saw was bullshit. That's why I'm not going to trust Tucker Carlson for saying, oh, I, I was wrong then, but I learned from that. And so now I'm right. I don't really if it was 25 years ago, but if you're dumb, Big T, if you'd been around for, if you're dumb enough to fall for what they were doing, then I just don't think that you have a seat at the table of like grown up political brains.

[Aryan]

And that's fine.

[Big T]

Yeah. Because it did like and it, I actually think that it should be, it should be that way. Yeah, it was a long time. 25 years ago. A million people died. A million, I'll say it again, a million people died. I think it's fair to be like, you should not make any more choices ever and you should probably be in prison.

[Eric]

Agree.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I, I would say that everyone who voted in the Senate at least to authorize George Bush, including, including you, Hillary, prison, agreed.

[Eric]

One of the biggest clearings I've seen. Funny as hell. Not a fan of Tucker Carlson, clearly. But when he interviewed Ted Cruz, that was one of the best clearings I've seen in a long time. Yeah, that's, that shit was, that shit was well done.

[Aryan]

He was waiting for him when he was like you, you don't know the population of the country that you want to invade. Well, that one, he was waiting for Ted Cruz to be like, Ted Cruz finally goes, what's pop? 92 million. He had it ready to go.

[Eric]

I mean that one and then the whole is Israel and the Bible, the one that's talking about the modern day nation state of Israel, they cleared, cleared him on that as well. Like the whole was like, God damn That's, but that's how you hold politicians accountable. I wish they would do Trump like that. Nobody wants to sit down and talk to Trump like that. It's just hilarious. But like he cleared him on that. That was great. Like I said, I give credit where it's due.

[Big T]

Yes, I, I agree with that. As much as I'm not a fan of him. I, I, and I don't fully trust him. I can tell when he's making good points. And that interview was a good example of that where he just like one by one very calmly laid out his case. And then Ted Cruz was just like getting so exasperated because I thought Ted Cruz thought like in theory, I thought we were going to be on the same side in this interview.

[Eric]

I thought it was going to be a softball. He was going to talk with a buddy. Oh no. Yeah.

[Big T]

But so then, then the thing Tucker does a little bit in that interview and I've watched a lot of talkers, so I understand what, how he operates. He was making excellent points in that interview, excellent points about the relationship between Israel and our country and how they, you know, the, the APAC funding of Congress people and whether or not they should be registered as like a foreign lobbyist organization. I think he made a lot of good points in that. And then he put, he'll like throw little things out because he has to always, you know, people will call him anti Semitic. And again, I think if you're, if you're criticizing the country of Israel, that does not make you anti Semitic.

[Eric]

I'm just be honest with you. You can qualify that all you want to. There are people out there. So that just, it don't register. It's not gonna register.

[Big T]

But my point is that if he

[Eric]

is now an anti Semite in their head.

[Big T]

But what I'm saying is if you, if you call somebody anti Semitic for criticizing anything that Israel ever does, that's actually, that's anti Semitic to do that because that is lumping every Jewish person in, across the world with the decisions made by Israel's government and saying that they're all secret foreign agents for Israel's government. So if I'm criticizing Benjamin Netanyahu, that means that I'm criticizing Jewish people everywhere, which is not, that's, that's how bad, really bad things happen where there's like massive stereotypes against Jewish people and they get treated like second class citizens across the world. That's dangerous. So that's, that's all I'm saying. And, but Tucker will do this thing where, you know, because he's used to dealing with accusations of being anti Semitic, and he'll, like, laugh those off. But he. He does throw in tiny little dog whistles here and there about, like, a big secret group controlling the world or controlling the media or controlling financing. And he'll never come out and say it because he knows that that's, you know, that would be very bad for him. And it is, like, outwardly anti Semitic, but he. He does these tiny little dog whistles, and then if anybody asks him about the dog whistles, then he'll act like they're crazy for hearing the dog whistles. But what he's really doing, he's. He's got a segment of his audience that does want to hear that sort of thing. So he's giving him little, like, silent pats on the head, like, hey, I'm with you. But then you call him out, he's like, you're. You're crazy. You're acting. You're acting crazy. I can't do the tucker. Like big titas. That's a good impression.

[Aryan]

I don't think it was that good, but.

[Big T]

No, it's really good. There's also. There's some other. Some other news that came out yesterday. I don't even know if I want to touch on it, but it's pretty funny. The New York Post is reporting that Mojtaba Khomeini is gay. So the new

[Aryan]

Iranian leader, right?

[Big T]

I believe so, yeah. I don't know. It's the new supreme leader. I think things are very much up in the air over there.

[Aryan]

The report I saw was that Trump has been briefed that the new Iranian leader is gay.

[Big T]

Yes. And that his father did not want to pass the. The leadership down to him because he's gay. I'm. This does seem like it might. It might be disinformation. This is a very funny campaign to run against somebody who's like, stepping into being the. The highest official in a fundamental Islamic country is to have, like, your op report that you're gay.

[Eric]

That's like. This shit's just so funny at this point. This is. He's gonna laugh at this life thing, though.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Now it's like, now the political opposition, but. Yeah, but he's gay, though, right? Is that what you want?

[Big T]

Right. He's, like, killed in the airstrike. He's. Now he's gay. He's gay and dead. It just seems like we're. I don't. I don't know what the purpose of it. I guess it would theoretically make things less stable for him. If he had people looking at him sideways.

[Eric]

Yeah, he'd get overthrown. You can't in, in that region. You can't. Can't be gay over there.

[Big T]

But I would. I would. I'm going to wait for more facts to come out about whether or not he's gay.

[Aryan]

Monitor the situation.

[Big T]

Yeah, we're. We're monitoring an ongoing situation.

[Aryan]

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[Eric]

Here's a funnier story though. I have you heard of this Afroman?

[Big T]

All right. So yeah, kind of. But I'm glad. Do you know more about it?

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Big T]

All right. Afroman is my, he's my guy. I've. I've seen Afroman in concert I think four or five times.

[Eric]

That's. That's amazing actually.

[Big T]

Yeah, Last time I saw him was in Austin. He came out on stage, it was like a 50 person venue and he had his, his ipod that was plugged in to the speaker system. And so like in between songs he would get on the click wheel and then, and then move it around until he got to the next song and then he would press play and then sing along with it.

[Aryan]

How many artists have you seen more than four times? Because I have seen my favorite artist in concert.

[Big T]

I think 4am I like Sneaky one of the top like 100 Afroman fans.

[Aryan]

If I hear someone to an artist concert four times I'm like wow, you love that artist.

[Big T]

Let me make sure that it's four first.

[Eric]

I'm not a big concert goer, but I've definitely never been to say artist twice. Not shunning that but I just don't like crowds. But like four times is a lot though.

[Big T]

I would say it might only be three. I'm going back. I might have. Exactly.

[Aryan]

I think it's three still alive.

[Big T]

I think it's only three, but above

[Eric]

that, I'm sure there's. I'm sure there's some like, super fans who travel to see each show and shit like that.

[Big T]

I would say you're up there. The Mighty, Mighty Boss Tones. Real Big fish. Goldfinger, Blink 182, Bad Religion Drop.

[Aryan]

You've been to all these more than four times?

[Big T]

Yeah,

[Aryan]

I don't think I've been to that many concerts.

[Big T]

Pie Tasters, maybe. Cock Spar.

[Aryan]

I'm sorry. Run that last one by me.

[Big T]

Cock Sparrow, like Rooster Fighter.

[Aryan]

Okay.

[Big T]

It's a British band. Alkaline Trio.

[Aryan]

You sound like Andy and Parks and Rec. Naming all the names of his band. Yeah, we were Scarecrow Boat.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah.

[Aryan]

Handrail Suicide.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Three Skin. Five Skin.

[Big T]

That's Fair. Nappy Roots. Bone Thugs.

[Aryan]

How many concerts have you been to?

[Big T]

I've been to a lot of concerts. Skynyrd, oh, Toots and the Mate Halls.

[Aryan]

I mean, you've named nearly a hundred

[Big T]

just in this Frank Turner. These are been like, if. If you're going to be in town, I'm going to go see you. I'm going to try to at least.

[Aryan]

Right. But that's. You've been to all those five or more times?

[Big T]

I would say four more times for all of them. Yeah. And I went to a lot more concerts when I was younger than I do now.

[Aryan]

Right.

[Big T]

So it's fallen off a lot in the last. I'd say really, since I moved to New York.

[Aryan]

So total, 200 concerts. How many?

[Big T]

Probably more.

[Aryan]

Wow.

[Big T]

My wife. Yeah. More than 200.

[Eric]

Have you ever been to one of those, like, festivals? It seems like your thing, like Running man or Burning Man.

[Big T]

No, no. I used to go to HF Festival every year. That was our local radio show that we had, our local radio station that we had in D.C. and it would be a one to two day festival. It started off one, then changed into two at RFK Stadium. And so we would go out for that day and it would cost like 40 bucks and you'd see 20 bands. Those are fun. But now I don't. I would not go to like. I've never been to Lallapalooza.

[Aryan]

I went to Windy City Smoke out this past year. First and last time I'll ever do that.

[Big T]

Just right in, right out, brother.

[Aryan]

It was a nightmare.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

And it was just everything. I don't like shoulder to shoulder, hot drunk people. Like, it was. It was just not. It was not for me, I've seen

[Big T]

Sturgill Simpson five times too.

[Eric]

Congrats, man. I love that.

[Aryan]

For you, I enjoy a concert where I have a seat.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Big T]

As you get older, you do appreciate

[Aryan]

the seats standing outside. Not for tea.

[Big T]

All right. So sorry. Afroman.

[Eric]

Yeah. That's a lot of concerts. Dog a ton.

[Big T]

Palmdale. Come back to me.

[Aryan]

Because you're all. You're also a sports guy, so I assume you've been to a ton of games as well, because generally someone who's been to that many concerts, I would imagine does not go to sporting events.

[Big T]

AC DC another one I've seen.

[Aryan]

I'm sure, I'm sure there's 10 more

[Big T]

five or six times.

[Eric]

Listen to a word you said. That's, that's, that's impressive. That's a lot of. You're just a goer of things.

[Big T]

Like you go, not anymore. Not anymore.

[Eric]

Doing what's, what's your. How do you feel that void now? Because that's a commitment to go. Like, that's like every other week you got some going on. Like, what's, what's your thing now? What do you do now?

[Big T]

I mean, now I work a lot.

[Eric]

Golf.

[Big T]

Yeah, I golf a little bit. I don't. I'm not like a. An obsessive golfer. But yeah, I, I just. I kind of replaced it with mostly work because my work's very fun, so I don't mind it. So, yeah, that's. That's pretty much what I do. I work, I go home. I occasionally have a beer. Occasionally have seven beers.

[Eric]

Okay. All right. Vote for me. Head, Ass. I got you

[Big T]

once a month. I have 12 beers. Yeah. Pretty standard stuff for a 40 year old in America.

[Eric]

Got you. Yeah. Great guy. Afroman. Afroman. So the story is that the local police department raided his house and upon raiding his house, they allegedly held guns up. And so they were looking for trafficking and they were looking for drugs. And so what happened was they, they, they found none of that. They confiscated his. I guess he had like six grand or something like that. They only gave five grand back. So this is, this is his testimony. And they broke his door down. And upon the security camera, it shows like all of the shit that they did and so on. Some of the stuff that they did. Now that could be very traumatizing. I can understand it, you know what I'm saying? Police bust down the door and he's like, what? He has no idea what's going on. Nothing ever came of it. They didn't find anything. But in the aftermath, him Being an artist, he takes a lot of the security footage and starts making songs about them. So he makes songs about all the sheriffs and all the deputies and all the people involved. And I think it's a whole little package project called Lemon Pound Cake. And reason why it's called Lemon Pound Cake is because on the security camera footage, there was some lemon pound cake. Yeah. And one of the heavier set dudes was like staring at it. And so he was just basically saying how, you know, you fat, you wanted my mom's lemon pound cake. And he did it. It's a funny ass song. So he's just putting out song after songs, basically diss tracks about these people talking about how he slept with his wife, you fat, you this, you that. He's going off on him now a year later. This was like in 2024. A year later, they sue him for defamation, emotional distress, all of that stuff in a civil lawsuit. And the court proceedings have been hilarious because he's not backing down. He's like, y', all, you broke into my shit. I said, I'm not allowed to use my. My security footage. And so that's what the whole thing is about. Can he use his own security footage that's on his to talk about the officers that came in, they're saying that it caused them emotional distress. There's this one lady sheriff who's like a little bit heavier set and she. And he like mimicked her with another heavier set woman who's chasing after her. And in the. And in the court case, she's on the stand crying when the song is playing. I don't believe them tears one bit to keep the beam, but whole shit is hilarious. If they win this case, I feel like that sets a horrible precedent that you could just bust into somebody's house and then sue them for any kind of public backlash. That's insane to me. So I think this case is going to get thrown out, but I guess the jury is going to deliberate. So probably when this podcast shows Thursday or Friday, we'll have a story about. About what the. What the jury decides. But whole shit is hilarious. If you haven't heard Lemon Pound Cake, run it up. Shit is comedy. Pure comedy.

[Big T]

Yeah, I say free Afroman. I stand with that. So I didn't realize this, but the first song that he ever wrote was called Harry Carrey. And it was a diss song about a student that would make fun like a bully. And so he got in trouble while he was in middle school. He got kicked out of school for sagging his pants. And he made a mixtape about his teacher that kicked him out of school, and he sold it to other teachers. He sold 400 copies about how he got kicked out of school by his teacher. So this is like kind of the same thing that he's doing right now.

[Eric]

That's how he expresses himself.

[Big T]

Yeah. You get in trouble, well, I'm gonna make music about you.

[Eric]

Yeah. That's how you express yourself. This is America, Jack. And there's another funny part. The dude's wife, one of the sheriff's wife, I believe I'm getting this correctly. But she got pulled to the stand, the one that he said he slept with. Because he's like, I had his wife bent over like that. They asked her like, does. Do these songs cause you emotional stress and, like, you know, damage? And are you hurt by her? She's like, no. She's like. They were like, not at all. She's like, no. She's like, I don't. It doesn't do anything. And he's. She was like, well, what if you were still married? She's like, probably, yeah. Because, you know, it's my husband, but. Right. But she's like, as of now. And she's like, no, I don't. I don't care.

[Big T]

I love it. Oh, so he the. The name of the songs. Will you help me repair my door?

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Lemon pound Cake, why are you disconnecting my video camera?

[Eric]

Which is also what they did. They busted his house and disconnected his video camera. Shady.

[Big T]

Yeah, I'm trying to look up the. The lyrics to Because I Got High. Big T, are you familiar with the song Because I Got High?

[Aryan]

So, as y' all have been discussing, I looked into this Afro main character, and yes, I have heard that song.

[Eric]

And Millennial classic.

[Aryan]

And what's the Colt 45?

[Big T]

Yeah. Colt 45. Two zigzags, baby. That's.

[Eric]

I hope. I hope it makes a comeback, you know? I mean, I hope people stream it up because of this story. Getting some extra bread in his pocket, man.

[Big T]

He makes good music. Listen to Palmdale too. Palmdale is a great song by him.

[Aryan]

I'm probably not gonna do that, but I appreciate it.

[Eric]

Do do. Because I got high. I promise you'll like it.

[Aryan]

I've heard it.

[Eric]

It's a funny level. Oh, you already heard.

[Aryan]

Okay.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Afro Man.

[Aryan]

Does this say deck my balls?

[Big T]

It sounds. It sounds right? Yeah.

[Aryan]

From Occult 45. Christmas.

[Eric]

I haven't heard that. I gotta run. I gotta put that on the Christmas playlist. I gotta be Looking.

[Aryan]

Go check it out.

[Big T]

He also did a remix. Hunter got high.

[Aryan]

Oh, about Biden.

[Big T]

He was going to get his laptop fixed But Hunter got high.

[Aryan]

Oh, okay.

[Big T]

He wasn't gonna show all them dick pics. But Hunter got high.

[Aryan]

Hey.

[Big T]

He should have let Hillary bleach the whole hard drive. But Hunter got high. Hunter got high. Hunter got high.

[Aryan]

That's good.

[Big T]

He wasn't gonna mess with the hose. But Hunter got high.

[Aryan]

Okay, I think he probably was.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Big T]

He was gonna take them all out on a boat. But Hunter got high. He's the smartest man Joe ever knew in his life. Till Hunter got high. Hunter got high. Hunter something. Listen, you would love Afroman.

[Aryan]

Yeah, no, that's good stuff.

[Big T]

Respect.

[Aryan]

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[Big T]

Let's see what else we got in the news today, Big T. Well, you

[Aryan]

were mentioning earlier that you've been monitoring the situation. Have you seen the bar that's opening specifically dedicated to monitoring the situation?

[Big T]

I have.

[Aryan]

Polymarket is, is getting in the bar game. They are opening a bar in New York City this Friday. Bad day to open a non sports bar. I would say maybe wait three weeks.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

But yeah, they're opening a bar and it's going to have all Poly Market stuff all in it to monitor every situation that you could want to monitor.

[Big T]

I have a question. Are we sure this is a real story?

[Aryan]

They're the ones that put it out, right?

[Big T]

Exactly. Polymarket is very good at like trolling. The more discussion you have about Polymarket, the better for them. Polymarket and Kalshee both are very good about not necessarily adhering to the truth that much but just doing shit to get them in the news.

[Aryan]

Yeah, it does seem weird that they would say like we're doing situation.

[Eric]

What does that mean?

[Aryan]

That's the new thing the kids are saying anytime something happens, like that's a big deal. They're like, I'm monitoring the situation. It's kind of a meme.

[Eric]

Got you.

[Big T]

And it could be real. Listen, it could be real because I do see that, like, they got pictures of it and stuff. I just don't, I don't trust anything that those companies put out. In fact, I. Is there a market that you can bet on that Poly market and Kalshi will be, like, put under regulation and have to change their entire business model within the next, like, year maybe? Is that something that you can, you can bet on the predictions for? Because I think I would like to. It seems like these are two companies that are flying way too close to the sun.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Way too close to the. So the only thing I would say is, like, they do have, they have consulting jobs that they've given to a lot of people that are in the government that would, you know, have influential says and whether or not to. To legislate. But I do think that there's enough people out there and they're, they're kind of like rubbing everybody's face in the prediction markets right now. And I would, I would put money on them existing in a completely different light in the next year. I don't know if they're going to pivot or whatever. I just, I don't think that it's going to keep going down the same road that it is. I think we've gone past that.

[Aryan]

Do you think. Are you saying that's because of public perception or they will be forced to in some way?

[Big T]

I think public perception will. Will force the government to take a look at how they operate.

[Aryan]

Okay, so you're saying it'll be a legal.

[Big T]

It'll be a legal thing. Yeah. Oh, they're not going to, like, voluntarily or like. It's not like people are going to stop betting on these things.

[Aryan]

Right. Because I was going to say they're not. I don't think they have great public opinion now.

[Big T]

No, No, I don't think it's like the public's not going to say we're going to stop doing this. There will be people that will continue to bet on these markets and continue to use insider information to make a lot of money, which is legal, as we've discussed on the show. But I think that public perception, especially in, like, I would say the next. Yeah. The next six to 12 months, they will probably be changing, it's my guess,

[Aryan]

will monitor that situation.

[Big T]

Monitoring, let's see, chemtrails.

[Aryan]

Real.

[Big T]

No.

[Aryan]

Might have been real.

[Big T]

No.

[Aryan]

They wanted them to be real.

[Big T]

You got to read. You got to read the article.

[Aryan]

So I read it.

[Big T]

Daily Mail said, CIA accused of poisoning the sky with toxins as files exposed secret weather control agenda. And then everybody said, see, it says that chemtrails are real. If you, if you read the article, you're talking about a class A bunch of classified stuff that was declassified in, like, 2003.

[Aryan]

That's correct.

[Big T]

And been out for a while.

[Aryan]

LBJ wanted to control the weather.

[Big T]

Well, yeah, essentially saying that if we can cloud seed effectively over Vietnam, we're going to. Which we tried to do, and cause more rain, then we're going to win that war to make it impossible for the opposition to move their troops around. Talking about, like, Agent Orange and spraying environmental stuff from aircraft onto. Onto plants, killing those and getting rid of, like, all the, all the foliage so that our opposition can't hide in the jungles anymore. We did all that. And then, yeah, it poisoned the ground and the land for a long time. And so, yeah, the CIA, a hundred percent, did all that stuff. I don't think that it's even coming close to saying that we have planes that are flying over the United States that are pumping whatever you want into the. Into the atmosphere.

[Aryan]

Sure. But there is documented evidence that the government wanted to put stuff into the atmosphere to control the weather and change correct areas.

[Big T]

Correct. That is true.

[Aryan]

And which, if you're a chemtrail guy, I mean, that's a win.

[Big T]

Yes, it's a win. But these are. Yeah, the wind was already out there.

[Eric]

That.

[Aryan]

This has been happening a few times recently where things that came out 10, 15, 20 years ago, people are rediscovering.

[Big T]

Yep.

[Aryan]

And putting out there, like, I guess maybe 2003, like, Internet was really early, so maybe it just never made the rounds like that.

[Big T]

No, it did. But, like, we. We would read these things and we would say, oh, that's crazy. That the United States government, like, tried to cloud seed and cause a monsoon that would have killed millions of people from the weather. That's crazy. And then now, after, like, 20 more years have passed, now we look at the articles, we're like, oh, this. This confirms the theory that I've been telling my neighbors about since 2015 that, like, when I see a Delta flight in my backyard that's pumping silver into the atmosphere, killing all of us. But it does confirm. You're right. And I did see. I saw an interview. You ever watch a Sean Ryan show? Aaron?

[Eric]

Sean Ryan?

[Big T]

Yeah, He's a guy, shaved head, former military guy, talks a lot of military stuff. How would you describe Him, Big T. Shawn Ryan. He had, he had.

[Aryan]

He's a Joe Rogan adjacent figure who interviews a lot of similar people to Rogan. Was he, he was in the military, right?

[Big T]

Yes.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

He also, I think like did some light drug trafficking, maybe for the CIA.

[Aryan]

I've never listened to his show. It is he like, how would you describe him politically?

[Big T]

He's definitely conservative, but he's. But he also like, he's had on

[Aryan]

Newsom and seemed very friendly with him.

[Big T]

He liked Newsom. He doesn't like Dan Crenshaw. He, he's definitely conservative, but he also kind of like jumps around a little bit when it comes to like who's pulling the strings.

[Aryan]

Yeah, but he's a, he's a Rogan adjacent guy.

[Big T]

Yeah. So he had on this like 27 year old guy whose job it was to work on geo engineering or like weather engineering. And he interviewed him for a while and it was like this, this, I don't want to use the word kid, but he's 27. This guy like thinks he's entitled to changing the weather and changing the world because he thinks that he's smarter than everybody else and he knows how to make life better for the entire world. But he's young and dumb and should not be trusted anywhere near the cloud seeding equipment that he works with. But yeah, there are people and there's. This is like a growth industry in the United States is like cloud seeding and making more rain in areas that don't have rain and less rain in areas that have too much and then hopefully not having any, any consequences whatsoever if you turn the desert into a forest. But I'm sure there'll be lots of consequences. But he doesn't think so. Anyways, that was one interview that I saw. But I encourage you guys to go watch it yourselves.

[Aryan]

Will do.

[Big T]

What else we got here today?

[Aryan]

I had one more thing. What was it? Oh no, maybe that was it.

[Big T]

Aaron, what you been, what you been thinking about?

[Eric]

I was just reading the effectiveness of Cloud City. It seems as though like the studies done, like all things considered, like anywhere from 0 to 20% successful. But it's not like a for sure thing anyway. Yeah, but anywho, what have I been thinking about lately? I just been grinding dog. Getting back on my workout grind. Putting together a little boot camp program for the, for the term, the tournament I'm entering in, you know, just preparing like a pro to go into this next golf tournament. Man, I wanna, I wanna make this cut, you know, I want to make the cut yeah.

[Big T]

So when is that again?

[Eric]

It is in March. I leave the 29th. It's from the 29th to the second. So I would be absent upon those days. But it's. I don't know, man. This. Whatever was this what I was made to do? You know, I was made to have a second awakening in golf. I'm gonna make this goddamn cut.

[Big T]

Eric, what is your next, your next goal?

[Eric]

I wanna. I mean, right now, like I said, I'm hovering at like a 7 handicap. I want to break 5.5handicap, but that's really hard to do. Like, you have to consistently shoot. Not consistently, but you have to break 70. I'm break 80, like, pretty. Like it's not a big deal, right. And so like I said, I'm hovering in the mid to low 80s right now. It's just cleaning up little stuff, mental mistakes, stuff like that, man. So I'm excited for the. For the opportunity to compete. I shine when this competition, though. Like, I'm probably gonna play better. Like the last one I played in, I was, dog. I wasn't even that good. I was probably like an 11. And I had a shitty day. Shitty day. And then the next day I balled out. And so I'm excited to see what I do under pressure.

[Big T]

How are the courses?

[Eric]

This is supposed to be like the best course in Mississippi. I forget what it's called, like Shadow Creek or some like that, but it's supposed to be like the best course in Mississippi. Okay, so we shall see. The good thing about it is I always play from the tips in these. In these tournaments, they do like these little mixed tees, so we rarely play from the tip. So I'm used to playing like 72 to 70400 yard courses. This one's gonna be like 68, so I don't have to be as aggressive off the T, which is where I lose a lot of my shots. I mean, a lot of my strokes. So I could, you know, I could take my hybrid off the tee and still be in play. So, yeah, a little, little game strategy, man. I'm flying the day before. Play the course, put together a game plan. One of the homies who's scratch who I play with all the time, he's gonna caddy for me, so. And his strength is on the greens. So I'm gonna get some good reads, put our minds together. I'm gonna make this cut, dog.

[Big T]

So I. I did see. I saw a video this morning of the PGA Tours doing their version of Hard Knocks where they got guys mic'd up, and they're doing films. It looks. It looks really good. So, yeah, check it out, Aaron. But there was one clip, and I think it was Akshay. And he was walking with. With Brooks. With Koepka. And he was like, brooks, you carry a yardage book? And Brooks is like, nah. And then actually went back to his caddy, was like, you know, Brooks doesn't use a yardage book for anything. And he's like, how is that possible? How do they do that? And then the caddies got together, and they're like, so wait, when you talk to Brooks, and he's, like, thinking about him. Driver off the tee. What's that conversation like? And Brooks's caddy, Ricky goes. He asked me, like, you think I should driver? And then I say, yeah. And then he grabs the driver and he hits it. They don't talk about yardages really at all. Like, Ricky will just hand him a club that he thinks works. If it's, like, an iron. They don't. Brooks will never overthink that on a golf course.

[Aryan]

Vibes coded. I like that.

[Eric]

That's interesting, actually.

[Big T]

He's, like, the only golfer that. That does that. But the. The show looks really good.

[Eric]

No, I'm gonna check it out. Let's dope.

[Big T]

All right. What else we got to get into? Anything going on in the world right now? I'm so excited for basketball.

[Eric]

When is the first game?

[Big T]

Depends on your time zone, but for us, I think it's what, noon?

[Aryan]

Noon Eastern?

[Big T]

I think noon. Okay. Noon Eastern, 11 Central.

[Eric]

Wet today on.

[Big T]

On Thursday.

[Aryan]

As people are.

[Big T]

As people are listening, guys.

[Eric]

Okay, I'm. I'm gonna be locked in.

[Aryan]

First game is tcu. Ohio State should be a great one.

[Eric]

I filled out a bracket, so I did a little. I did a little. I did a little research before. This is how I did it. I watched good 30 seconds to a minute of each team. Some highlights. Before I met. Before I made a pick.

[Aryan]

Who stood out to you?

[Eric]

You know, who actually, I think could do really Vandy. I liked. I liked. They had a little guard. What's his name?

[Aryan]

Probably Tyler Tanner.

[Eric]

No, he's a little. I forget his name.

[Aryan]

Black or white?

[Eric]

Black.

[Aryan]

Dude, it's got to be Tyler10. Oh, you're talking about Duke Miles.

[Eric]

Duke Miles. I like his game. I love his game. Here, let me pull up. Let me pull the brag. Who else stood out

[Aryan]

any of, like, Arizona, Michigan.

[Eric]

Arizona. So I got Arizona winning the whole thing.

[Aryan]

I do as well.

[Eric]

Really? Really. Look at me and my research, man. All right, here you Go. Here's my. My bracket. That's the wrong group chat area. What are you doing? And this is. It's basically like, vibes, because I don't know. Clearly, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna sit there and watch all these games. But I was like, I got a good feel for the team, athleticism, who the guys are, who the. All right, here we go. Boom.

[Aryan]

All right.

[Eric]

You want to go through the whole thing?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Yeah. Go for it.

[Eric]

Let's do it. All right. First round. I got Duke over Sienna, clearly. I got. I got TCU over Ohio State right here. I got St. John's over northern Iowa. I got Kansas over CA Baptist, Louisville and South Florida. That's gonna be a little. I got South Florida winning that one.

[Aryan]

It's a very trendy upset pick.

[Eric]

Okay. I got Michigan State and North Dakota. Stay easy. UCLA over UCF. UConn over Furman. Florida over. I don't even know what that is. I got Clemson over Iowa. I got Vandy over McNeese. I got Nebraska over Troy. I got North Carolina over vcu. North Carolina kind of broke my heart. So as I'm watching the highlights, you know that's my favorite team growing up, right? I just don't. I don't. They ain't got it.

[Big T]

Yeah. Missing their best player.

[Aryan]

Missing their best player.

[Eric]

Oh, who's the best player?

[Aryan]

He's out. He's a freshman. Caleb Wilson, he's going to be stud in the NBA.

[Eric]

Love that. Okay, so we got to listen to. Look forward to next year. Is he going to the.

[Aryan]

Oh, no. He's gone.

[Eric]

Gone. All right. Yeah. Illinois over Penn. I got Texas A and M over St. Mary's Houston over Idaho. Houston's got a good squad, by the way. Arizona over Long Island. Villanova over Utah State. Wisconsin got a good squad, too.

[Aryan]

Dog been playing well.

[Eric]

Yep. I got Arkansas over Hawaii. Hawaii looked horrible to me. I don't know.

[Aryan]

Do you know what Hawaii does that's really interesting? They don't switch anything on defense, like, their. Their coach. They do not switch.

[Big T]

No help.

[Aryan]

Yeah, no help. They. They just play straight up, man to man. You do not leave your man the. Yeah.

[Eric]

Yeah. They gonna get mobbed.

[Aryan]

It's interesting. They. It's. They've got good numbers, though.

[Eric]

I was just watching them. I was like. That did. Nothing stood out. Nothing stood out. Like, they, like, Usually teams that don't have, like, really good athleticism and they're in a tournament, they got, like, either hustle guys or they're really good fundamentally. I Didn't see none of that shit. And granted, I only watched one little clip of them.

[Aryan]

I like this. I like 30 seconds of every team.

[Big T]

Yep.

[Eric]

BYU over Texas. I got Gonzaga over. Is it Kennesaw?

[Big T]

Kennesaw.

[Aryan]

Kennesaw State.

[Eric]

Kennesaw State.

[Big T]

Here's a little upset pick.

[Eric]

I got Mizzou over Miami. Mizzou looks really good, actually.

[Big T]

They're playing home games.

[Aryan]

Yeah. In St. Louis.

[Eric]

Even better. I got Mizzou over Miami. Purdue over Queens. I like Purdue's team as well. Michigan. I like Michigan, but I think they may be a little overhyped. I don't know. We'll see, though.

[Aryan]

Only lost. I got three games all year.

[Eric]

That's just what I saw. Man. I'm going off. This is my 32nd analysis.

[Aryan]

But they did lose their last game.

[Eric]

There you go. I got Georgia over St. Louis. Texas Tech over Akron. Alabama over Hofstra. I got Tennessee over smu.

[Aryan]

SMU and Miami. Ohio are playing tonight. Then we play the winner.

[Eric]

Oh, I got Tennessee there. Yeah. I didn't. I didn't know which one to watch, so I was like, fuck it. Tennessee. Anyway, Virginia over Wright State. Kentucky over Santa Clara. Iowa State. I like them. I really like this team. I really like Iowa State, dog. All right, that's the first round. Second round. I got. We gotta run it back. I got Duke over TCU. I got Kansas over St. John's I got. Where'd we go? Yep. I got Michigan State over South Florida. UConn over UCLA. Florida over Clemson. Vandy beating Nebraska. I got Illinois beating North Carolina. Sorry to my. To my. Tar Heels. Houston over Texas A M. Arizona to Villanova. Wisconsin over Arkansas. Gonzaga over byu. Missouri to. Over Purdue.

[Big T]

Michigan.

[Eric]

You want to just go to the Final Four? Let's go to the Final Four.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Go.

[Aryan]

The elite eight.

[Eric]

Okay. Sweet 16. All right. Elite eight. All right. Lead it. I got Duke and Yukon. I got Duke. Duke on. I got Duke taking that. I wasn't super impressed with Yukon just watching.

[Aryan]

Me neither.

[Eric]

Yeah, I think they're. I think they're gonna be okay. I don't think they're gonna.

[Aryan]

I have them losing to UCLA second round.

[Eric]

Okay. I like that. I like that. I got Houston over Vandy, but I got. I got Vatty in the. In the Elite Eight. I think that's gonna be a good game. I really like Vanity, though.

[Big T]

Up.

[Eric]

I got Arizona over Missou. I think that's gonna be a good game. Michigan. Ohio State. I got Ohio State beating Michigan.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Aryan]

Really?

[Eric]

Yeah, I do that.

[Aryan]

Would Ohio State. Wait. Iowa State.

[Eric]

Iowa State.

[Aryan]

Yes. You. I thought you said Ohio State.

[Big T]

I did too.

[Aryan]

I think you said Ohio State.

[Eric]

I. I'm at Iowa.

[Aryan]

I'm at Iowa.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Ohio State is in the Duke bracket.

[Aryan]

Yeah. I was like, I didn't even think that was an option.

[Eric]

No, sorry. Michigan over Iowa State. That's my, that's my Elite Eight. And then my final Four. Duke, Houston, Arizona and Iowa State. I got Houston beating Duke. Then I got Arizona being Iowa State. But again, I think that's going to be a really good game. And then I got Houston and Arizona in the final and I got Arizona taking that. I love Arizona's game. They got a little guard too. I think he's number two.

[Aryan]

Is two. Braden Buries or Jaden Bradley.

[Eric]

Bradley. Bradley.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Eric]

I don't know if that's his number, but I know his name. Yeah. I got Arizona winning it all. You're welcome. If you're struggling with your bracket out there, I got you.

[Aryan]

I have Arizona beating Florida in the championship game. A rematch of both teams opener could be. Could be a fun close to the season.

[Big T]

First game, last game, Arizona making it back. I have, I have something to report on the tournament. Some previously unknown to me. Dynamics of this NCAA tournament that I think could change things. Have you, have you looked at the inside of Idaho's basketball arena?

[Aryan]

I have. It's beautiful.

[Big T]

Oh, my God.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Idaho's basketball, it is gorgeous. Yeah. This is the most beautiful building I've ever seen.

[Aryan]

It looks like a perfect created stadium for like a small school. On a video game, shout out to Bud Ford.

[Big T]

We'll double check and make sure that Bud Ford was a good guy.

[Eric]

Bud for like the yellow, it's got

[Big T]

like wood on the inside.

[Eric]

Got you. Okay. Yeah.

[Big T]

Bud Ford court.

[Eric]

Nice. Yeah, it's nice. Hold on. I was watching. I think it was Iowa State, Maybe it's Big 12 championship, I think.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Like they had a floor that like lit up.

[Aryan]

Yes. So they, they tried this year doing a glass floor that they can put anything on. They were like, this works like a video board like in the. On the Jumbotron. Like we could put anything you can think of on this. But then they used it to just. The court was gray and they would just like the three point line would light up when they made a three or something. And all the players hated it. They said it sucked. So they changed it back in the middle of the tournament to wood.

[Eric]

Damn. Because I visually, I kind of liked it. Well, they said it was a dunk, the inside would light up.

[Aryan]

They didn't do anything cool with it though. Like it should have been. I said it should have been half of each team's home court. Like that could have been cool, but it was just gray, it looked dumb and the players didn't like it. So they.

[Eric]

I really liked it, dog. Damn.

[Aryan]

I think it. The technology could be cool if utilized properly and they figure out how to make the floor better.

[Eric]

Agree. Agreed. Who's your final Four, Eric?

[Big T]

I got Michigan State, Houston, Arkansas. Michigan.

[Aryan]

Really?

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

I had Arkansas originally and I changed.

[Big T]

Yeah, you can do it.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Defense scare you?

[Aryan]

They've just been. I. I think a cuff is a guy that can go like. He is the quintessential NCAA tournament go off guy.

[Big T]

Kind of like Markel Fultz or not Fultz. Marquis Noel, remember him?

[Aryan]

Oh, yeah. I mean, Acuff's way, way better than him. But like Brazil played out of his mind in the SEC tournament. I just don't know that they're gonna put it all together for a prolonged stretch. But they have the talent. I mean, D.J. wagner, all those guys.

[Eric]

I might. I'm with you on this, dog. Remember we was having a conversation about NFL versus college.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Eric]

And like you're just not that big of a pro sports guy anymore.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Eric]

When it comes, when it comes to football and basketball, I'm not with you there. With football. I still like watching really good ball football, but I can't watch NBA at all anymore. And then just doing this little research the other day I was watching college basketball. I was like, yo, this is so much more enjoyable.

[Aryan]

And the quality has gotten better too. With nil keeps guys like who? You know, fringe guys in school. The top guys are, you know, have always been there. But it's. The product is better. Scoring is up over the last few years and it's just, it's so much more fun.

[Eric]

It's more, it's more enjoyable, dog. Like, I, like I got. And the Lakers are my favorite team. Right. I got invited to the Lakers Rockets game. Great seats. Right. I just, I couldn't. I don't. I was uninterested.

[Aryan]

Well, you got to go to that.

[Eric]

I didn't want to. I literally would rather go home and I had a busy day anyway. But I would rather go home and play video games on my computer.

[Aryan]

Yeah, I don't, I don't hate that. I saw a screenshot from the other day. It was like, this product is unwatchable. And it was. Every NBA game that night was a 30 point game.

[Eric]

Yeah. I'm just, I'm uninterested. And maybe, maybe playoff time changed my mind a little bit and maybe that's when it ramps up. But I just, I'm just. I. I was wild. I can't. This is boring. This is not interesting. I don't know, man.

[Aryan]

And once you get into conference play, you have like four or five games that are big rivalry matchups that like,

[Big T]

there are still some games in college basketball where you're. It becomes like unwatchable the other way where it's like, this is crazy, but I think for the most part that, yeah, the product's gotten a lot better. And this is also the worst time of year to watch the NBA with the exception, like the three teams that are playing for playoff seating in each conference. Like the rest of it is. It's teams that are either on cruise control or teams that are actively trying to. Trying to lose games. But the playoffs are going to be good.

[Eric]

Yeah, maybe I'll check them out.

[Aryan]

But that's what.

[Eric]

Yeah. New college basketball fan, man. I've always been a North Carolina fan, so my catch might catch a couple Tar Heels games next year. I don't know.

[Aryan]

Love that. I think Tennessee and North Carolina should play every year.

[Eric]

Oh, yeah. You're talking about aesthetically beautiful.

[Aryan]

That it. Geographically it makes sense. We played them a few times a couple years ago.

[Eric]

Everything, I mean, just on either floor, it just when you look at it, it's beautiful.

[Aryan]

Agreed.

[Eric]

That baby blue and that orange flash, that's a gorgeous color scheme.

[Aryan]

Yeah. We played a home and home with them when I was in school and it was cool. And I'm sure we've played them. Maybe we haven't played them in like one of those early season tournaments, but we did play home and home. Those teams should play every year.

[Eric]

I don't know that there's a better aesthetically pleasing visual.

[Aryan]

I agree.

[Big T]

Let's see. UCLA has really good colors.

[Eric]

So the blues kind of dull and that, that gold kind of gets me sometimes. It doesn't look good, but it's not a bad one. It's not a bad one.

[Big T]

You know, it's a really, really good color. Combo is the combo they use for the Players Championship. They're like dark blue and gold.

[Eric]

Yeah, I like that.

[Big T]

It's really good.

[Eric]

I like that. Yeah.

[Big T]

But yeah, if UCLA was playing against ucla, against Texas would be like a JV version. Texas stinks of. Of Tennessee brown.

[Eric]

Yeah, it's that, that burnt orange don't get you talking to two Vols here. Yeah, that burnt orange don't do it for us.

[Big T]

I hear you.

[Eric]

And we're the real you too.

[Aryan]

So a university before Texas was a state and wouldn't be a state without us either.

[Big T]

Good point. All. All solid points.

[Aryan]

The University of Tennessee was a university before Tennessee was a state.

[Big T]

How's that?

[Aryan]

It was founded as Blunt College in.

[Eric]

Hell, yeah.

[Aryan]

1796.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Eric]

I knew.

[Big T]

I knew Thomas Jefferson was growing some weird stuff.

[Aryan]

Let me. Let me make sure. 1794. Damn. Tennessee became a state in 17.

[Big T]

We got it. We gotta have some Blunt College merch.

[Aryan]

That could be. It's beyond throwbacks.

[Eric]

That's kind of lit. Yeah. Was it. Were the colors the same as.

[Aryan]

I think that came along later because they. They did orange because of the flowers that are on the hill.

[Eric]

We had. We had throwback jerseys back. Back in our day. Eric, that would be a cold little throwback.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Eric]

For the University of Tennessee. Blunt College. That's kind of cold, actually.

[Big T]

Let's see if they make any, like going across the. What are some other schools. I know that JMU used to be Madison Teachers College, but if school is the worst. Yeah.

[Eric]

College name of all time. Man.

[Big T]

If schools did. Did throwback merch to their old names, that'd be sick.

[Eric]

Yeah, that's. That's. That's cream of the crop right there. No bias. Blunt College.

[Big T]

Blunt College.

[Aryan]

There it. It. It's B, L, O U N T. But I'm not seeing any merch. We should make something about a Blunt College.

[Eric]

And underneath us is University of Tennessee. That's cold.

[Aryan]

We should make some.

[Big T]

Yeah. Let's find the best. The best throwback names across the country.

[Aryan]

I'm looking into it.

[Eric]

It's got to be up there. Yeah.

[Big T]

Like, what did. I'm guessing the. The big ones in the Ivy League. Those have always been. Because they don't change.

[Aryan]

Columbia was King's College.

[Big T]

Okay. The University of Florida. What was that? Has it always been University of Florida?

[Aryan]

I'm just. I'm looking through.

[Eric]

Shout out to Reddit for this. Some dude said start calling universities by their old names.

[Aryan]

I'm on the same one.

[Eric]

Okay. Yeah. Let's see. Duke University was. Had four different names. Brown School. Can't call that now. Union Institute. Normal College. Trinity College. I kind of like Normal College.

[Big T]

Normal College.

[Aryan]

Illinois State is in Normal. Illinois. They should go by Normal College.

[Eric]

UCLA was Southern branch of the University of California.

[Aryan]

Oh, this is the one. Northeastern University, The Evening Institute for Younger Men.

[Big T]

Oh, that rocks. Yeah, I kind of want to go there. Just like the boys. Just hanging the. The. You. This. The school of hanging with the fellas.

[Aryan]

You asked about Florida. What prompted that, by the way?

[Big T]

I was just curious. I was thinking just biggest schools.

[Aryan]

From 1905 to 1909, they were the University of the State of Florida. Just some superfluous words.

[Big T]

University of the State of Florida. I like that. What about, what about Georgia?

[Aryan]

Not seeing Georgia on here. Tulane was the Medical College of Louisiana. A lot of these are just, you know, rearranging the words.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Vandy was Central University. How good is Vandy in basketball? Yeah, I mean, they can, they can beat some people.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

I think they're going to be in the Sweet 16 against. In a rematch with Florida.

[Eric]

Nice little squad, man, but I can't imagine Florida college. Do you know the oldest college?

[Aryan]

Believe it's William and Mary.

[Eric]

That's the second oldest.

[Aryan]

Is it also in Virginia?

[Big T]

No, I. I think it's one of the Ivy Leagues.

[Aryan]

Penn, the.

[Eric]

Nope.

[Big T]

Brown.

[Aryan]

I really thought it was William and Mary.

[Eric]

Nope.

[Big T]

Harvard.

[Eric]

Harvard, yeah. Founded in 1636.

[Big T]

I want to know what kind of stupid they were teaching in 1636. I mean, like, what was the science classes like back then?

[Eric]

When was Isaac Newton walking?

[Big T]

I don't know.

[Eric]

It was. He was. He was in the 1600s, wasn't he?

[Aryan]

Hold.

[Eric]

Because like, I don't even think theoretical physics was like a thing.

[Aryan]

1643-1727.

[Eric]

Yes.

[Aryan]

That's later than I thought.

[Eric]

Yeah. So the physics that they had back then was nowhere near what we have now.

[Aryan]

So Isaac Newton was only 50 years outside of America.

[Big T]

Yep. So they studied geometry, astronomy, metaphysics, ethics, rhetoric, logic, Latin. I want to really know the kind of stuff they were studying in the medical courses there. Like leeches. I'm doing introduction. Introduction to leeches.

[Eric]

We're gonna study leprosy.

[Big T]

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[Eric]

Big, big news. Big news. Just dropped.

[Big T]

Oh, shit.

[Eric]

Huge news.

[Big T]

Oh, shit.

[Eric]

Fresh off the presses, hot off my desk. Are y' all ready for this?

[Big T]

Mm.

[Eric]

June 16, 2028. My birthday.

[Big T]

Happy birthday.

[Aryan]

Let me think of what this could be.

[Big T]

2028.

[Eric]

And what a fucking birthday gift this is to you.

[Aryan]

28.

[Eric]

Let me know when you ready.

[Aryan]

Is it a. It's sports or culture, all that.

[Eric]

You either guess or you don't guess. I ain't giving you no breadcrumbs.

[Aryan]

I don't know. I've got nothing.

[Big T]

Six, 16, 20.

[Aryan]

Oh, it's the. Is it an Olympic thing?

[Big T]

It could be the Olympics.

[Aryan]

I bet it's. I. My guess is Trump has announced something to do with the Olympics.

[Eric]

That's your final answer?

[Aryan]

Yes.

[Eric]

Are you going to guess?

[Big T]

Eric, that is the day that we are going to declare a national holiday. June 16th. And it's going. Yeah, it's going to be just Summer Day. Happy summer.

[Eric]

Happy summer day. June 16, 2028. The Incredibles 3 is coming out.

[Aryan]

Oh, okay. Yeah, you gotta come to Chicago.

[Eric]

I might have to. Like, this is big new. I've been an Incredibles guy since its inception.

[Aryan]

I didn't know there was a three.

[Eric]

I had no idea. No idea. This is fresh off of Pixar's account 20 minutes ago.

[Aryan]

Wow.

[Big T]

This is.

[Eric]

This is happening. Huge. I'm so excited for Jack. Jack, bro. Jack. Jack is like one of the best superheroes of all time. He's got laser eyes. He can turn into fire. He could turn into iron. He could.

[Big T]

He could teleport.

[Eric]

Yo, Jack. Jack may be the most powerful in the universe.

[Aryan]

Is he going to be an adult?

[Eric]

I don't know, man. Yeah. I don't know nothing about. This is fresh off the. I don't know. I'm just looking at the announcement. I'm so excited about this.

[Aryan]

Oh, they apparently announced it in August of 24.

[Eric]

Had no idea. No idea.

[Big T]

I've never seen the Incredibles.

[Aryan]

What?

[Eric]

Oh, that's like him not seeing a sandlot. Bro, you tripping. No.

[Aryan]

Who hasn't seen the sandlot?

[Eric]

I mean, not the sandlot.

[Aryan]

I've seen the sandlot. Don't watch.

[Eric]

Not the sandlot. Not the sandlot. Which one? Which one?

[Aryan]

I've. I haven't seen a bunch.

[Eric]

Yeah, I forget. It was a classic, though.

[Aryan]

Everyone's mad at me for not having seen another different movie.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big T]

Now for me, only Training Day.

[Aryan]

I'll watch it at some point.

[Big T]

You got to.

[Eric]

You still. Wait, you haven't seen Training Day.

[Aryan]

I've got a lot of shit to do, man.

[Eric]

I feel you.

[Big T]

But this is a great two hours that you're going to have. Like, you should be looking forward to it.

[Aryan]

Let's. Okay, here's what. I have to have a hard date. So I'm. Let's pick a date by which I have to watch training day.

[Big T]

June 16, 2028. Okay.

[Aryan]

I was. Let's say. Let's just call it. Let's say June 1st. By June 1st of this year, I have to watch Training Day.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Aryan]

That gets us out of March Madness. That gets us past the Masters and everything into kind of a good sweet spot.

[Eric]

Yep.

[Aryan]

By June 1st, I will watch Training Day. You can use this as. As to bind my word.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Big T]

Word is bond.

[Eric]

Word is Bond.

[Aryan]

And then. Is that a Monday? It looked like that's a Monday. So on June 1, we will do a full Training Day recap.

[Eric]

Okay. Oh, I love that. Oh, it'll give me a chance to watch it back again.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Yep. Okay.

[Big T]

That's. That's going to be an awesome episode.

[Aryan]

Write it down.

[Big T]

June 1st.

[Aryan]

Actually, do write it down because I will put this off until the very end of May.

[Big T]

It looks good first. It looks like a good episode.

[Eric]

Love that.

[Aryan]

All right, Done deal.

[Eric]

More than. I love that for you more than anybody else. But.

[Aryan]

Yeah, we'll see.

[Eric]

How about we do this? We'll make it the run it back episode where everybody watches something that they haven't seen that they should have seen.

[Aryan]

I like that.

[Eric]

What is something that you haven't seen, Eric?

[Aryan]

Incredibles.

[Big T]

I'm sure I could do the Incredibles. I could do the first episode of Star Wars.

[Aryan]

Have you seen the other Star Wars?

[Big T]

Well, we.

[Eric]

We both. We both should have seen this as well, and I'm keeping it, being I'm

[Big T]

not going to watch Star Wars.

[Aryan]

I've, I've seen a little bit of

[Big T]

it, but it doesn't do anything like the Avengers. I haven't seen that main aner.

[Eric]

I'm looking for more classics, like, older classics that like, you should have watched Godfather.

[Aryan]

Has to be before 2005.

[Eric]

That's a good one. Godfather's a good one.

[Big T]

Godfather one. See, I, I, I screwed myself on that. It's the longest movie ever. Is it like four hours?

[Aryan]

Is it really?

[Eric]

I don't think I've seen that one either.

[Aryan]

Two hours, 55 minutes.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah. Back there too.

[Aryan]

They had nothing else to do back then. They just had to sit in the theater for as long as that was probably a welcome distraction.

[Eric]

That was like, that was like, nah. Because theater, that's where you used to go to watch movies. It wasn't really a big thing to own them like that. It was. And it was, it was the thing when they came out, you know, to go drive. You got to go see it.

[Big T]

It's like pizzas get out of the heat for a little bit. Come watch pizzas.

[Eric]

Used to be, Pizzas used to be crazy big T. Like when you ordered pizza, it was like dog pizza at your doorstep. Get the out of here. Now it's like everything's at your doorstep. So it lost its fervor. Yeah, but pizza and a movie.

[Aryan]

Listen, I remember the days of Blockbuster.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

I would rent video games from Blockbuster.

[Eric]

You know what? I saw a site that has, like, old hats and it had a Blockbuster one. I think I'm gonna cop one.

[Aryan]

That could be cool. There's a, there's a new game. I think it's just on PC right now, but it's. You run a Blockbuster.

[Big T]

That's great.

[Aryan]

The children Yourn for the 90s.

[Eric]

There's that trend going around. Dad, what were you like in the 90s? Have you seen that?

[Big T]

No.

[Aryan]

No.

[Eric]

You haven't seen that. So like all like, older. A little older than us. He, those celebrities are saying dad or mom. What were you like in the 90s? And then they do, they do like, like Halle Berry or. The best one was Buddy from the Sandlot. The, the, the, the bigger dude. I, I guess I don't know his name. Like, the bigger dude a little. The catcher. He was the catcher. Yeah. And so you've seen these Trans Mac. You've seen it? Yeah, I've seen it.

[Aryan]

It's cute.

[Big T]

I like it.

[Eric]

And so his was the dopest one. Because all his. Because, like, what they'll do is I'll show pictures of them in the 90s, like what they were doing, how. You know, how prominent they were, what they had going on, and it's kind of nostalgic and it's really dope. Like, Tony Hawks was really dope. And then he went to him, who was the catcher. He showed all the older pictures of Benny the Jet Rodriguez and like, his career. And that kid's career was. It was funny, dog. Watch that one.

[Aryan]

But that actor is a big time card show autograph guy. Really, like, every card show. He's there, signed an autograph. I'm sure he makes a great living doing it.

[Eric]

Benny the Jet?

[Aryan]

No, Ham Porter.

[Eric]

Ham Porter.

[Big T]

Good for him.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Movies, though. What's it. What's the movie?

[Aryan]

I mean, we don't know what you haven't seen.

[Eric]

That's true. We've talked about the show.

[Big T]

Incredibles. I think that'd be a good one, right?

[Aryan]

For who? I think he's seen it, but I've seen it. Oh, well, I thought you were doing the. God.

[Eric]

I got.

[Big T]

It's too long.

[Eric]

It's fair. That's a fair. Three hours is a long time.

[Aryan]

I mean, Arian, you know better than we do. Name some that you haven't seen.

[Eric]

Oh, let me just. Let me just Google that because my. My bandwidth running low.

[Aryan]

Big T. I have a group chat that is mad at me for having not seen a bunch of movies and they made a spreadsheet. I'm trying to find it. Okay, Arian, I have the Google Doc of movies that I haven't seen that people were upset at me for. So I'll read these and tell me if there's one that you haven't seen.

[Big T]

Also, right.

[Aryan]

Rounders, Braveheart, Gladiator, Goodwill Hunting.

[Eric]

Oh, you haven't seen Gladiator?

[Aryan]

No, Dog, Goodfellas, Casino, which we discussed on Monday. I had to see Casino Heat, Varsity Blues, Spaceballs, Coming to America, Caddyshack, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Die Hard Blow, and Donnie Brasco.

[Eric]

Wow. It's a. It genuinely surprised me. Ever seen Varsity Blues?

[Aryan]

Yeah, I feel like I could get to that at some point. At some point. I'll watch Varsity Blues.

[Eric]

That's your rip, James Vanderbie. Yeah. Yeah. Fact is.

[Aryan]

John Voight.

[Eric]

Yep. He's in it. He's in it.

[Big T]

Still live.

[Aryan]

He's still alive.

[Big T]

Still alive.

[Aryan]

That's what I was asking.

[Eric]

Yeah. I haven't seen Casino. I could do Casino.

[Big T]

Oh, Casino's good.

[Eric]

Yeah, I heard that one's. Good. I haven't seen Heat either.

[Big T]

Heat's also good. That's a. These are very long movies, but they're very good.

[Eric]

Casino long. How long is casino?

[Big T]

I think casinos.

[Eric]

I'll watch it.

[Aryan]

I think incredibles does not fit with our theme. I think. I think you have to do the God father.

[Big T]

It's so long though. Big.

[Aryan]

You have two months.

[Big T]

All right, let me look.

[Aryan]

And a half.

[Big T]

Let me look at the. The list of best. I'll go. Rolling Stone, best movies.

[Eric]

There you go.

[Big T]

And I'll see which ones I haven't seen. By the way, have you guys used any USA Today website recently to do anything?

[Aryan]

Not that I'm aware of.

[Big T]

They like they own different regional websites too.

[Aryan]

Ganette.

[Big T]

It. It's impossible. It's impossible to use any of their websites. Like they're like pop up actually unusable.

[Eric]

Yeah, they gotta. Gotta make money though.

[Big T]

I know, but I feel like they're just squeezing every last penny.

[Eric]

Here's one that I haven't seen that I heard it was amazing. The Grand Budapest Hotel.

[Big T]

Okay. Is it West Anderson?

[Eric]

Yes, I'm too. I heard that. I heard it was like fire, but I just haven't got around to that one.

[Aryan]

He makes weird movies, right?

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah. I haven't seen no country for Old Men.

[Aryan]

I haven't seen that either.

[Eric]

Man said he makes weird movies.

[Aryan]

That is. That is his thing.

[Eric]

Oh, you haven't seen Dark Knight either, huh?

[Aryan]

Big T. No, not a. Not a Batman.

[Eric]

Add that to the. Add that to the spreadsheet because that's. That's my. Like I'm a. I'm like a Marvel cat. Like I watch Marvel. My kids love them. We.

[Big T]

We.

[Eric]

I'm up on the lore and they watch the spin off TV show series and all of that shit. Dark Knight's the best superhero movie all time. Has it has to do with Batman. Inglourious bastards.

[Big T]

Oh, that's a good one too.

[Aryan]

Never seen it.

[Big T]

Do you like war movies?

[Eric]

It's less about war, more about the story around it.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Eric]

What's that his name? Christopher.

[Big T]

Christopher Watts.

[Eric]

One of the better actors in. In the world today. So you should add that to the list.

[Aryan]

I'm writing all these down. I'm going to send it to. These guys are going to be pissed

[Eric]

her.

[Aryan]

I wouldn't consider that a classic but

[Eric]

I mean it's fire to me. I don't know. Like it's one of the better movies out.

[Aryan]

Like I think it's probably pretty relevant now.

[Eric]

Yep. As I'm saying John Wick. Haven't seen John Wick.

[Aryan]

Me neither.

[Eric]

Damn. Oh, what?

[Big T]

Mad Max Fury Road?

[Eric]

I haven't seen either one. I haven't seen no Mad Max.

[Big T]

Fury Road's really good.

[Eric]

You seen either one, Big T?

[Aryan]

No, I think you'll love those. From what I understand. I think they're right up your alley.

[Eric]

I think. I think this works. If so, the person who hasn't watched it, the other two have watched it. So I'm trying to find a classic that both y' all have seen. I ain't seen.

[Aryan]

Have you seen Shawshank?

[Eric]

Oh, my God, yes. Okay, wait, you haven't seen Shawshank?

[Aryan]

No, I have.

[Eric]

Oh. I was about to say I was

[Aryan]

just starting from baseline, like, got you.

[Eric]

Got you.

[Aryan]

Because a lot of these 80s and 90s movies, I just, you know, they slip by me. That one I've seen countless times. Yeah, you're doing the Godfather. I'm doing Training Day. Or if y' all want to pick a different one for me. But y'.

[Big T]

All.

[Aryan]

Y' all pick. But that seems to. Y' all have said that one several times.

[Big T]

It's a great movie. I wish I could watch again for the first.

[Aryan]

So I'll do Training Day, and then, yeah, we'll pick one for Arian June 1st. Write it down.

[Big T]

I guess I will watch the Godfather.

[Eric]

There you go.

[Big T]

There's probably a lot of people out there that are like, you asshole. The Godfather is my favorite movie, but it's long, it's intimidating. You know how that goes.

[Eric]

I mean, I haven't seen it either.

[Big T]

You say you haven't seen Braveheart either? Yeah, Braveheart's a good one.

[Aryan]

Problematic, though.

[Eric]

Why?

[Aryan]

Well, why separate the art from the

[Big T]

artist you're not in favor of? Oh, you talk about Mel, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Aryan]

What you think?

[Big T]

I thought you were just, like, anti Scottish. I thought you were like, I'm a British loyalist.

[Aryan]

No, I'm. I'm loyal to no nation but the United States.

[Big T]

You're loyal to the soil.

[Eric]

All right, Paddington. I'm hearing these movies about the little bear. That's the bear, right?

[Big T]

Paddington 2.

[Aryan]

That's correct.

[Big T]

One of the best movies ever made.

[Eric]

That's. Y' all seen that?

[Aryan]

I have not seen Paddington, no.

[Big T]

Paddington is rated 99 on Rotten Tomatoes. It's one of the highest. It's one of the highest ranked and reviewed movies of all time.

[Aryan]

Did people do that as a joke?

[Big T]

No, it's just a damn good movie.

[Eric]

Big. See, I've heard, like, no, this is. That's what I've heard.

[Aryan]

What does he do?

[Big T]

I mean, no spoilers.

[Aryan]

Have tea with the queen, possibly. Remember that in the, the Olympic intros when they were in London, Paddington, like showed up and everybody flipped out.

[Big T]

Yeah. Paddington 2 is one of the highest rated movies of all time.

[Aryan]

I'll take your word for it.

[Big T]

The Reception it got $40 million in at the box office in the US and Canada and then 242 million in other countries worldwide. Total 290 million.

[Eric]

The bear.

[Big T]

So I'm seeing 8.7 for the critics review on Rotten Tomatoes, but it's 99% with audience reviews.

[Aryan]

Yeah. Shout out P Dog.

[Big T]

I guess. Yeah.

[Eric]

You know, Yeah, I, I, that one, that one slipped under my radar as well.

[Big T]

So on January 18, 2000 2018, Paddington 2 became the most reviewed film ever to remain at 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.

[Eric]

I mean, it's got to be cracking. Yeah. Or at least controversial. Like why so many people talking about this?

[Aryan]

I, I guarantee you that had to be some sort of Internet bit.

[Big T]

No, no, these are like all, there's no Paddington. Here's a quote from Les Leslie Philperin of The Hollywood Reporter. Paddington 2 won't save the world. World, sadly. But its existence makes everything just that tiny bit better and more, well, bearable. That's good. Here's Guy Lodge. Variety.

[Aryan]

It's. It's positivity. Slo.

[Big T]

Another near perfect family entertainment honoring the cozy can do spirit of Michael Bond stories will bring them smoothly into a bustling, diverse, 21st century London with space for some light anti Brexit subtext to boot. You think it's, it's positivity slop.

[Aryan]

That's what sounds like sunshine and rainbows for Paddington. Maybe we all need to watch Paddington too, from the sounds of it.

[Big T]

Yeah. Let's see. Do I have to? Do I need to watch Paddington 1?

[Eric]

That's the thing. Do I need context for patented 2?

[Big T]

MacKenzie, have you seen any of the Paddocks?

[Aryan]

I think I've seen the first one,

[Big T]

but it, it was a very long time ago. I think so. I don't remember. Okay. This is first hit on Reddit. It will be meaningful if you haven't seen the first movie. But Paddington 2 will be more meaningful and enjoyable. If you've already watched the first one,

[Aryan]

can you see what the reviews of Disney's Jungle Cruise are? It's one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

[Big T]

Jungle Cruise? Oh, that's the one with Emily Blunt and the rock.

[Aryan]

That's correct.

[Big T]

62% on Rotten Tomatoes.

[Aryan]

Really?

[Big T]

50% on Metacritic, 6.5 on IMDb.

[Aryan]

I think it's the only movie I've ever gotten up and just walked out of.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah.

[Aryan]

When I lived in New York and I was single, I had like the unlimited movie thing and I would just go see movies that I didn't, you know, just go sit down with some popcorn and turn your phone off for two hours. And I went to see Jungle Cruise and it was just. So I got up and left in the middle. I was like this. I can't do this anymore. Also, that night, it seemed like Ronaldo was going to sign with Man City.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

So that was a big. A big deal. And I wanted to monitor the situation. Then he ended up going back to Man United anyway.

[Big T]

That's a heartbreaker. Yeah, I. I can think of one movie I walked out of. My grandmother took me out of Last Action Hero. I remember that in. In the theater in Queensborough because it was. It was so violent at the start. I was not ready for that. But the only movie I've walked out of is Master of Disguise with Drew Carey. Not Drew Carey, Dana. Wait, what? Dana Carvey. Dana Carvey, where he plays the turtle. And so we walked out of that movie and went into. I think the Matrix is playing at the theater next door. So we just went and watched that. But then I found out later that Danny Carvey was shooting Master of disguise on 911 when the attack started. And he was in the. The turtle outfit. And they stopped filming and he gathered everybody around and I think they all said a prayer and. And prayed upon the future of the United States while. While Dana Carvey is wearing the turtle outfit from. And if you haven't. Look him up, Big T. Look up the turtle outfit for Master of Disguise.

[Eric]

That's kind of comedy, dog. Anybody can you gather around? Some serious. Is going down. He's sitting in a turtle outfit.

[Aryan]

Oh, yeah, that's.

[Eric]

I walked. I walked out of Elf. What?

[Aryan]

What?

[Eric]

It wasn't like a protest. I was like, you didn't like Elf?

[Big T]

Anti. Anti Christmas guy.

[Eric]

Here, here. Not true.

[Aryan]

I'm like, he's a Christmas guy.

[Big T]

Christian undertones in this movie. We're leaving.

[Eric]

I don't. No, no, it wasn't like. It was not a protest. Like, I can't stand it. Hey, if you like it, you like it. But for me, it just wasn't. It didn't. And I was like, this is.

[Aryan]

It's my all time number two Christmas Christmas movie. Not number two overall.

[Eric]

Yeah, that have been wild. But yeah, I just didn't do it for me. I don't know. I love Will Ferrell.

[Aryan]

Do you like Christmas Vacation?

[Eric]

I've never seen that.

[Aryan]

I mean, I'm putting that on his. Even though it's not Christmas. That's a must watch. Yeah, I think it's one of the funniest movies ever made.

[Eric]

One of the funniest movies in terms

[Aryan]

of like, just the one liners in that movie. They are still hilarious 40 years later.

[Eric]

Okay, that's. That's mine. I'll watch A Christmas Vacation.

[Aryan]

Yeah, I think that may need to be his.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Aryan]

National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation.

[Eric]

I'm good with that one.

[Aryan]

When you talked about your grandma taking you out of the movie, though, my great grandma liked to go to movies, but she would just sleep the whole time. No matter what it was, she'd fall asleep instantly. So you could get her to just take you to whatever movie you wanted and you would just go with baba and. And she would go to sleep and you could watch whatever you wanted.

[Big T]

That's awesome.

[Aryan]

Yeah, she was. She's my favorite person of all time. She had a dedicated refrigerator just to Coke products.

[Big T]

Oh, really?

[Aryan]

She had her regular fridge and then a mini fridge that was just fully stocked at all times with Coke, Diet Coke, Dasani water, and Sprite.

[Big T]

Wow, this sounds like a great grandma.

[Aryan]

She was the best.

[Big T]

You know, when. When Mimi took me out of Last Action Hero, I remember she grabbed my hand. She goes, I think we ought leave now. That was kind of like a forest scope, but that's Mimi. What? You know, she had the. The Greensboro accent, and it was like two people died within 30 seconds. And then she. She was just not. She was a good Southern Baptist woman.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

This was not entertainment for her. So she was like, we got to get out of here. I can't. I can't poison my grandson's mind.

[Aryan]

And you. She took you to the Matrix?

[Big T]

No, that's different time when I was. I was watching Master.

[Aryan]

Oh, that was Master Disguise. Right.

[Big T]

We left and I think she was. She was like upset with me that I asked to go see Last Action Hero. But I was like, it's an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. Like, I'm. I'm excited to see it. Later on, I get to. To college. I watched it. I wrote my senior year thesis on Last Action Hero by Arnold Schwarzenegger and how the themes of Shakespeare's Hamlet are interwoven throughout the entire film. Because we were studying Hamlet.

[Eric]

Wow.

[Big T]

And I was like, wait. As I was reading Hamlet for the first time, I was like, this is Last Action Hero and Lion King. Yeah, that too. But like Last Action Hero is just next time you watch it, if you've seen Hamlet, it's gonna jump off the page.

[Eric]

There's an Eminem line that perfectly encapsulates your. Was your Mimi.

[Big T]

Mimi.

[Eric]

When she goes, he goes. He said, last week I seen a Schwarzenegger movie where he's shooting all sorts of these with an Uzi. I see these three little kids up in the front rows screaming goat with the 17 year old uncle. I'm like, guidance. Ain't they got the same moms and dads who got mad when I asked, do you like violence? Mm, cold little line. But Mimi took a stand. Shout out to Mimi.

[Big T]

Yeah, Mimi was about that life. All right, you want to get into to the article that you sent over yesterday, Aaron?

[Eric]

Yeah, let's do it. It's weird.

[Big T]

Crazy, crazy article came out in the New Yorker and Aryan brought it to our attention. At the center of it are a pair of Chinese immigrants that had 26 children stowed away in their mansion. So you want to kind of give the, the big picture view on it.

[Eric]

Yeah. So the background is there's a couple and I'm gonna butcher these names. Apologies, apologies to my Chinese fans out there. Gujon Juan. Juan. When there's an X, what do you do with you?

[Aryan]

I think it's like a.

[Eric]

Okay, like, like Juan Gujan. Gujon Juan is a 64 year old man and Sylvia Zhang is a 36 year old woman. And just off rip, always a red flag in my, in my 39 years of this life, anytime you got a 30, 20 to 30 year gap in a situationship or relationship, thumbs up. You know what I mean? Power dynamics. It's weird. I don't know.

[Aryan]

Well, she was his like secretary.

[Eric]

I didn't see that, but could be the case. But they, but they were together.

[Aryan]

Yeah, they were married to different people and she was his secretary. He was like a rich Chinese guy. And then they got together.

[Eric]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Nefarious. So they were living in a LA suburb and how the story popped off, there was a woman named Kayla Elliot. Kayla Elliot was contact or contacted them via Facebook. There was this, there was this group that she found. She, her background is like she, she had kids and she loved that. She just loved having kids. And I've seen that before actually where women enjoy the process of being pregnant and stuff. Like, you know, it feels good to them. I don't know, for whatever Reason I couldn't relate carrying a human, which is still kind of weird to me. That's why. So anyway, she. She from Corpus Chris Crispy. She had four kids, and she was like, it. I love having kids. I want to give this experience, you know, this child or this experience of having a child to somebody who can't. And so she was looking at a Facebook surrogacy group, and she was contacted by a company called Mark Surrogacy. And Mark Surrogacy was ended up being owned and operated by Gujan Juan and Sylvia Zhang. And initially, when she got the. The message, she was like, usually they. They had one other kid and they were just trying to have more kids. She was like, yeah, let's do it. It's all good. So as she goes along with her pregnancy, she's like four months in, and then she learned through another Facebook message that they already had 13 kids. And so she contacted the agency and she was like, yeah, but, you know, we just really want to have a large family, and, you know, we can't have kids, so that's what we want to do. And she was like, all right, well, okay, little odd, but whatever. After she gives birth to a baby, she. She hands. She hands the child over. And then there became, like, some reports of, like, you know, child abuse and stuff with the neighbors and stuff. And as they start to investigate that, they go in, they go into the house, and as they go into the house, they see, like, 15, 20 kids, and it's like a classroom type vibe set up. And then they see that there's security footage, Right. There's cameras set up in all these different rooms. And so the police see the security footage, and they see that they are, like, getting beat. So after. So the police raided, and there was a nanny that was there, kind of like she was showing off footage, like shaking a baby and, like, hitting the baby and stuff like that. The nanny dipped, so the nanny's still on the run today, so we don't know where the nanny is. And so after. After all of that fallout,

[Big T]

all of

[Eric]

the surrogate mothers that were. Because they. They were still. Even after the raid and after all of the fallout, their surrogate mothers still were pregnant with some of the kids. They were still trying to have more kids. Yeah. And. And so after that, the surrogate mothers were like, no, I'm not going to give a child over to you in these circumstances. After they're under investigation by the FBI, these two people sue the surrogate mothers for this to, like, a breach of contract in addition to like a million dollars. And so the other women, like, countersued. So it's like a big old. It's like a big old mess. And so the interesting part is, and this is where it kind of gets to the conspiracy land, where I'm kind of like, okay, this has some teeth to it. The dude, Zhuang, Zhuang Gojun, he was a Chinese. He's a Chinese national and a former senior official in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of the People's Congress. So he was legit in a. In the government of China. And so this is where it kind of gets wild. I think this is conspiracy land. But I think what they were doing was they wanted to. I think they were like getting kids to try to breed them to become a politician or some kind of influencer in America's soil. And I think that. I don't know if it's like from the Chinese government or Chinese plant or, or what have you, but I think this is what they was doing because they mentioned that they wanted one of the kids to be president and so they wanted to have all these kids on the soil. So they were like brow beating them into like, learning things and, and understanding American culture and all of this, and they were getting beat and stuff like that. But there's no real. I mean, yeah, that's child neglect and stuff, but there's no like, evidence of like, trafficking or anything like that. Yeah, think this was just like a little sweatshop set up to try to infiltrate and they just wanted to play all the odds that they could. This is what it looks like to me. At first it was just all what. What we know now. This is what I feel.

[Big T]

So he named. He named several of his kids after United States presidents. There's one that was named Jefferson. There were Democrats and Republicans both mixed in there.

[Aryan]

That wasn't his real name. They used that as a.

[Big T]

And it wasn't actually the name.

[Aryan]

He did name them after presidents, but Jefferson was a fake name that they used. They didn't use the kids real names. Okay, but he was named after another president.

[Big T]

Different. Different president. He also carried around business cards that called himself Trump Doge member, official, Trump cabinet member, and Trump advisor. So this guy, like, very clearly was obsessed with politics and US Politics. When he was in China, I saw, like, how he came up, but he also, the way that he left China, I don't know if you did any reading about that, but he was responsible for a couple initiatives that got a lot of senior party officials in trouble. So like he called them anti corruption measures that he was taking which went after the super high ranking members as well as like some very low ranking. He called it going after the tigers and flies of China. So he, he made some very powerful enemies.

[Aryan]

His nickname was like the, the Great or something because everyone hated him.

[Big T]

Yeah, that's a great nickname.

[Aryan]

And then they, they discovered this was going on because some of the moms found each other in like a Facebook group and they discovered that it was the same couple they were having children for and they gave them the same gifts, like bracelets and different stuff. And the, the mom was really shady and would never text people back. And then it turns out the agency that they were talking to or they thought they were talking to was just that couple. They ran it.

[Eric]

Yeah, they ran the whole shit.

[Aryan]

And so that's why they were like, oh well they're really busy right now. Like they can't meet with you, they can't do whatever. And so that's kind of how the whole thing was discovered. And they, they shaved all the kids heads and they had them in like it was reminiscent of kind of Stranger Things where they have the kids in like the little compound where they're have them in like the school and whatever and all their heads are shaved. It's a weird deal.

[Big T]

It's like bringing all these kids up and like in America with the hopes that one of them becomes like a mega famous influencer. It's like if you wanted to like be a successful person back in the 1800s and have a bustling farm, you would have like 20 kids.

[Eric]

Yeah, that would help you.

[Big T]

This guy.

[Aryan]

All of them were going to make it.

[Big T]

Yeah. This guy just wants some people that are going to go mega viral.

[Eric]

He's, he's playing odds. But here's where I feel like it has a little bit of teeth and it's tied to the Chinese government. More than 40% of all international surrogacy contracts in the, in the United States were initiated by Chinese nationals criminals. So anybody who has surg surrogate contracts in the US today is from China. That's, I mean that's an alarming pattern.

[Big T]

I wonder why that is.

[Eric]

I don't know. And that's what I'm saying. That's why I say, like I said, I don't. We leaving fact land and we're leaving it going into my opinion. My opinion is like there could be some programs set up in China where they're trying to do this on purpose. Well, so much so as the, the. Yeah, I Mean, like I said, I don't know. This is what it looks like. But like, it caught the attention of Congress. Rick Scott introduced the Safe Kids Act. And so it's stopping adversarial foreign, foreign exploitation of kids in domestic surrogacy. And what it does is it invalidates any commercial surrogacy agreement entered into with a citizen of a foreign adversarial nation and, and create a misdemeanor for brokers who facilitate such agreements. But the loophole behind it is they can only because it would be profiling. So the only way that you really stop it is if, okay, you have to be married. So if they're married, they can still do it, but if they're not, they can't. That's what the, that the Safe Kids act was proposed.

[Big T]

Yeah. So there's, there are some good reasons why people from China would use surrogacy platforms at a higher rate. Like, they have limitations on surrogacy in China. They have limitations on number of children that you can have in China. So if you want to have a, like, you know, three people, three kids in your family, or if for whatever reason your wife or the woman can't carry a child, then they could go to the United States, try to use a surrogate there to have a kid. But what we've seen a lot of recently, because I did, I, I looked this up a little bit, there have been some Chinese billionaires that are trying to have lots of US Born babies via surrogacy. And they just, I guess, pay money to have them born in the United States and then have them shipped back over to China. If you're like a billionaire that wants like 20 heirs to take over the world or take over your company and your businesses, I think it's probably similar to what Elon's kind of doing where it's like, if you are a billionaire and you believe that much in yourself and you're very egotistical, then you want to procreate as much as possible because you think that your, your genes are superior to everybody else's. So you want to have as many kids to ensure that the future of the world is in good hands. So, yeah, there are Chinese billionaires that are doing that and have kind of been flagged in the United States as like, hey, this is happening, right? So it is like an actual thing that in addition to people that might want surrogates for normal good reasons, there are some people that are, that are really like, taking advantage of the situation. And so, you know what the going rate for a surrogate mother would be.

[Eric]

Like, what, 30 to 30 to 60 grand? Something like that.

[Aryan]

Yeah, that sounds.

[Eric]

That sounds about right.

[Big T]

I'm seeing about 45, so. Yeah, it's right in there. That doesn't. See that. Doesn't seem like that much money to have, like, your body go through. Go through all that.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Right.

[Eric]

40, 40 grand for nine months. Probably don't. Yeah.

[Big T]

And like, childbirth. Yeah, it's. It's way safer than it's ever been, but it's still not risk free.

[Eric]

Yeah, I'm gonna need like, 200, 300, easy.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And then I. I don't want to. I don't want to judge women that have offered their services as surrogates because, you know, in a lot of cases, you're really helping out some people that couldn't have kids without them, which is a wonderful thing. It just seems like it would be really, really hard to give birth, and then the second after you give birth, your baby gets taken away. No. Right. Could not imagine a weird thing after. After having it and carrying it for nine months and, like, taking all the vitamins and doing all the stuff to help it out, watching what you eat, all this stuff. And then nine months, you go into childbirth. And then the. I. I would assume they don't even give the baby back to the moment, do they? The birth mom. After. After a surrogate birth, there was one

[Aryan]

where it said the woman got to, like, stay with him for an hour.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

And then there was another one where one of the. Was it one of this couple's kids or was it a different one where. No, it was one of the weird couples kids that the mom sued and was able to, through some way, get it declared that the. The surrogate dad, because he was the biological father was that he was the dad, but she was the biological mother because they used her egg or something. However it worked, so she got visitation rights, whereas normally that doesn't happen.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Eric]

It's a wild, wild thing.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

So. So where are we at with the investigation into this couple?

[Eric]

Right now? They're free and they're still having more babies. They're still getting more babies. They're free and they. I think it's just the FBI. It's an investigation. There's been no, like, indictment or anything like that.

[Big T]

Yeah. What are they doing that would break the law? I mean, child endangerment. But if they have, like, nannies that are looking after them, then yeah, I

[Eric]

mean, they have it out. That's what I'm saying. So the nanny's on the run. They don't really have anything really concrete other than like, child endangerment, but I think, like, wire fraud, stuff like that, because you kind of lied about and across state lines. So that's why it's a federal investigation.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Because you lied about the situation, you lied about the household. That's all fraud. But again, even if they do get caught, I don't think it's going to be anything hefty. I think it'll be like a slap on the wrist and maybe five years, if that, like. But that's being generous as far as the evidences we have. Because we don't really have anything. Because we don't really have anything that had been done to the kids other than. Yeah, they. They got hit. They got hit. Which is bad. Right. But it's not like. It's not sexual abuse. It's not like child trafficking, stuff like that. That. That probably will be a little bit more of a higher importance on the FBI's radar.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Eric]

But it is like some shady shit. I just don't think we 100% know what it's for.

[Big T]

So there's. There was a lady that worked at the house. I don't know if this is the same person as the nanny that you were talking about, but there was a woman named Tina Powers, and she was working as a. An assistant for Sylvia and doing paperwork for her. And she said that the. The man, Quo John, he had surveillance cameras set up in every single room in the house. Like, he ran the house as a surveillance state. She said one time she was on the computer and she clicked an ad for a grocery store for some reason, and the guy came running from upstairs asking what. What she was doing. Like, why are you clicking on this thing? So, like, he had a command center where he's, like, watching everything all at once. It seems like something's going on.

[Eric]

Yeah, like something's up. But, like, we don't know yet. That's. That's the bad day. We don't know. And they're still. Like I said to this day, they're still getting babies. The lawsuits are still pending. And they fuck around. Win some of those. At least the babies back. Because they did breach the contract.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Because all this is like. All it is is like, yeah, that's weird shit. And you hit the kid. And they could be. You know, I haven't seen any of the videos, so, like, I can't say to what extent, but, I mean, I would say over a majority of America, physically discipline Their kids. I'm vehemently against it because I grew up like that and I think it's counterproductive. But I mean, I know a bunch of people like, yeah, spanking money.

[Aryan]

So it's like, I mean, they were, from what it seems like though, this wasn't spanking your kids. Like they were, it was bad. It was going to the hospital and, and they shaved over heads.

[Eric]

There was some of those, absolutely. But again, if it wasn't like immediate, like blatant, I think they, I think this is why it's still open investigation. And it's not like they haven't moved in on them. I just, I just think the evidence is not there yet and it could be building a case. Sometimes it takes the FBI a while, but shit is crazy.

[Big T]

So pretty much anywhere else in the world, or most of the world, there are laws that are highly restrictive of surrogacy. So commercial surrogacy is for the most part only available in the United States. We're the only country that like has it set up as a business and there's no regulations for starting a surrogacy agency, which is kind of crazy. I think New York is the only state that requires having a license to run a surrogacy agency. And everywhere else it's just saying like, hey, if you can get together and find a woman who is willing to, to raise a, a baby inside of her for nine months, and if you can find a couple that really wants somebody else to raise a baby for them for nine months inside their body, then you can take your fee for connecting the two of them and it's all good. It's like, it does seem like there should be some more regulations around this type of thing, right?

[Eric]

You live regulation well or else we're

[Big T]

going to have the Chinese taking over our country in five years if the

[Eric]

free market calls for it. Eric.

[Big T]

Yeah, it's true. This is, this is like ultimate free market. And I guess in California I was reading that there is a way that you can, you can allow the parents to get pre birth orders so saying before the kid is born, this kid is ours. So the, the birthing mother will not have any right whatsoever to claim the child that she just gave birth to. So in some other states since surrogacy, there's like no laws around it whatsoever. In some other states, if it ran into a situation where the woman developed a strong bond with the child that she, that she nurtured for nine months, gave birth and she was like, I don't want to give this child up. It would be very. It would be tough to go through the legal system to try to, like, prove that. Oh, yeah. Well, there was an agreement, and the surrogate parents actually have a right to raise that child. But in California, you can write something like that ahead of time and have that contract set up, which is why so many people use California.

[Eric]

That's wild. So I said for a little update. So they have had 21 children seized, and after they got seized, they had five more born in Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Georgia. And they were all taken into custody, and they're fighting for custody of them across four states.

[Big T]

Yeah, that's a. That's a lot of legal fees. Like, where's this. Where's all this money coming from?

[Eric]

I don't know, man.

[Aryan]

Well, they were rich.

[Big T]

Yeah, but, like, this rich?

[Aryan]

Yeah, I think so.

[Big T]

That's crazy.

[Aryan]

I mean, think of just to pay 20 women 50 grand each. That's a million dollars.

[Big T]

Yeah. Yeah, that's true. So the. The guy go, June.

[Eric]

He.

[Big T]

He's linked to a, like, underground criminal guy named the Dragon. Dragon Ma. Which is pretty awesome. Like, if you want to get that. If you want to get the nickname the Dragon in China, you know how hard that is?

[Eric]

Like, they don't just hand them shits out.

[Big T]

No. What would the equivalent be in the United States? States, like, big country. Right.

[Aryan]

We have a bunch of those. Like, we don't have anything as powerful as the. As the dragon in China.

[Eric]

Do we, like, do the Chinese feel as strongly about dragon as we feel they feel about it?

[Big T]

Yeah, I would say more.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

More.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Yes, more. So. So.

[Eric]

Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't know. I don't.

[Aryan]

Because every year they're like. They're the Chinese New Year. There's. They go through a different animal or whatever.

[Big T]

Yeah, they. But they have the dragon parade.

[Aryan]

But when it's the dragon, it's, like, the biggest deal.

[Big T]

Well, yeah, in the. In the lunar New Year parades, there are, like, the. The dragon dances where you have, like, 10 people in line carrying a dragon, which is pretty awesome to watch because it's. They actually had one of those at the wanton Don's wedding.

[Eric]

Wow.

[Big T]

Yeah, it was. It was really cool. They did dragon dance. Yeah. So this guy, the Dragon, he's. He owns a lot of real estate in California.

[Eric]

I'm a tiger.

[Big T]

Oh, that's a good one, too.

[Eric]

I was looking at the year's Chinese zodiac. I'm a tiger. What are you? I am.

[Big T]

It depends if you go by the United States calendar or The. The lunar calendar. Because if you're born in like, January, late January, sometimes your birthday falls into the Chinese calendar.

[Eric]

I don't even know how to differentiate that, brother.

[Big T]

It's like on the edge. So, like, we celebrate New Year's January 1st, they celebrate New Year's anytime between, I don't know, like January 20th and February 14th.

[Eric]

I thought it was just. Okay, so. Depends on what year. So what? Which one are you? I think.

[Big T]

I think I might be a rat.

[Eric]

Are you 87?

[Big T]

No, 85.

[Eric]

85. Old hit ass.

[Big T]

Which might be the. The ox.

[Aryan]

I'm a fire ox.

[Big T]

Fire ox.

[Aryan]

Mine's the rat.

[Eric]

Yeah, 1996. You're an ox. You're an ox. Yeah.

[Big T]

All right.

[Eric]

I'm a tiger.

[Aryan]

Hard working, honest, logical and strong Leaders are the ox.

[Eric]

I would.

[Big T]

Yeah, that fits you.

[Aryan]

Is it ox or oxen?

[Big T]

Oxen is plural, right?

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Big T]

So this dude, Dragon Ma. So this guy, this guy had a bunch of office buildings. They called it Pacific Place. And Guojun also owned some of these buildings. And they got busted for having an illegal casino. They had a drug manufacturing operation and it got busted for methamphetamine, 20,000 vape cartridges and hundreds of pounds of psilocybin mushrooms with Uzi guns, boxes of ammunition, and counterfeit cash. So Gojun was not accused of manufacturing any of the drugs. But according to the complaint, he and his associates formed and dissolved entities after each enforcement action to conceal ownership, frustrate enforcement, and continue MA's unlawful gambling and narcotics operations. Corporations. So it sounds like this dude Go June is just, in addition to being a weirdo, outstanding at paperwork. Gotta be, Gotta be if you're. If you're forming all these corporations and dissolving them all the time. So yeah, Aaron, you just stepped out. But the guy, the guy, Dragon and Go June, they. Their buildings got busted for meth, drug manufacturing, casinos, firearms, and. But, but mushrooms. Yeah, mushrooms too. But Gojun was never in trouble for it, guys.

[Eric]

Just a slippery little. Slippery little guy.

[Big T]

Yeah. So keep an eye on what. What's going on. That's all I can say.

[Eric]

Keep an eye on my ear to the streets.

[Aryan]

Monitor the situation.

[Big T]

Yeah. 20. How many kids? 26 kids.

[Eric]

I don't even know. I think they have 21 under confiscation. Originally they had five out. Right now, that's. That's what my research says. Yeah, it's a lot of jits, man.

[Big T]

That's a lot of kids. Like, just. I'm just thinking logistically on a day to day basis, that's got to be exhausting. Who has time?

[Eric]

Okay. I couldn't do that.

[Aryan]

I guess if you're beating and neglecting them. Allegedly.

[Big T]

Yeah. I guess the oldest ones raise the youngest ones.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Remember, 19 kids and counting that they had the buddy system.

[Big T]

That is true. And it worked out really well for them.

[Eric]

Presidents ain't gonna make themselves, you know?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Big T]

They're probably gonna be running against each other for office at some point. There's so many of them now.

[Eric]

That would be funny.

[Big T]

Yeah. All right. Well, that does it for today's episode of Macro Dosing. It's brought to you by still blue coffee. By the way, I had a cafe mocha this morning. It was a great way to start the day. Cell Blue. It supports animal rescue organizations. We had some very cute dogs in this morning. Shout out to Paws Rescue. We support them. They're a big part of what we do here. And go out rescue a dog if you think that that might be a good way for you to fulfill your life. I know Arian's been very happy with having a dog in his life now, so check him out. I pause stellablue.com check out their coffee. Aaron, how is dog ownership going for you?

[Eric]

We are all in the training phase and we're at the tail end of it. And so I have. I have another training with them today. Okay, bro. When I go now, he's off leash now. I went from having a velociraptor to a trained dog. And it's amazing. He does everything you say on command. He won't move unless you tell him to move. He's still a puppy. So, like, it's impressive how fast he's came along.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Eric]

And then it's just. It's that. That's when dogs are fun. Like when they rummaging through the house and pillaging and it's. It's. Oof. It's enough. But this, it's fun. He's. It's my guy. It's my guy.

[Big T]

I love it. Good for you, little guy.

[Eric]

Growing old.

[Big T]

Big T. Who's your final four?

[Aryan]

I think it's the 41 seeds. I mean, dude, that. That's the. The four best teams this year are, like, I think, according to Ken Palm, like, better than the rest. There's no way to. They are better than the rest of the field, more than in almost any other year.

[Eric]

And what. How. What is the percentage of the last, like, I don't know, 10 to 20 brackets years where all four number ones went into the final four?

[Aryan]

It's only happened twice, but one of them was last year.

[Eric]

Really.

[Aryan]

And it seems as though in the last couple seasons like maybe the nil and transfer portal landscape has shifted the to where the top is really top heavy. And those are going to be the teams that like I there are certainly. I think Illinois could be in the Final Four. I think Purdue could go on a run. Arkansas. But the four best teams are significantly better than the rest. I think Iowa State could make it a good point.

[Eric]

So have we. Have we? Nil. Sweet. I mean Cinderella stories out of the, out of the NCAA bracket, they'll still

[Aryan]

exist, but I think the, the portal has really concentrated the talent at the top.

[Eric]

Thank you. Maybe that's a good point. Maybe. Right.

[Big T]

The Cinderella, they're always going to exist in the first, but then it's probably going to get more and more chalky in like the Final Fours.

[Eric]

Makes sense.

[Big T]

Yep. Well, I'm very excited. I can't wait.

[Aryan]

Big day.

[Big T]

I can't wait. Huge day. How do you space out the meals? Do you have. Do you put something on your stomach before you get to the games?

[Aryan]

No, I'll, I'll order something for right when the first game starts. So 11:15.

[Big T]

Is that when you put the order in?

[Aryan]

No, no, no, no.

[Eric]

I took that totally. I took that as if you were playing. How would you eat?

[Aryan]

This is for watching.

[Eric]

Some would argue.

[Aryan]

Yeah. Which is harder. Which. Listen, as Big Cat has always said, you play in one game every Sunday, Saturday and Sunday we're watching 60 games.

[Eric]

Way harder on you.

[Aryan]

Yeah. So I will have food arrive here at 11:15 and then you eat again at. You have a snack at two and then as the, the night slate starts, you do dinner.

[Big T]

Yeah, I usually forget about dinner until like I'm already hungry for the night slate and got to get ahead of that. Then I panic and I get something that I don't really want because it's the fastest.

[Aryan]

Right.

[Big T]

So I got to, I got to remind myself this year, let's say 4:30

[Aryan]

comes around as the first slate's ending.

[Big T]

Time to start looking at options.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

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[Aryan]

I don't want to fight with Jake Marsh. I love him. He is the best. The list made me angry.

[Big T]

Can I give you. I'm going to read the list off. There are a couple I disagree with. Number one, March Madness round of 64 on Thursday.

[Eric]

That's the number one sports.

[Aryan]

I don't agree.

[Big T]

But.

[Aryan]

But it's acceptable.

[Big T]

I like that. I like that. That's a good pick.

[Eric]

That's the horrible number one pick. Right.

[Big T]

Number two, NFL Sunday week one.

[Aryan]

This is where I started to get angry. But keep going.

[Big T]

Number three, March Madness, the Friday round of 64.

[Aryan]

I think you could have just lumped those into one. But fine.

[Big T]

Number four is Sunday at the Masters.

[Aryan]

This is where things is this really started to go off the rails.

[Eric]

Is this. Is this in numerical order? Yeah.

[Aryan]

Yes.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Big T]

Number five, the October November loaded college football slate.

[Aryan]

So he just took the whole college football season. 5.

[Big T]

He took like the floating best weekend of the college football.

[Aryan]

Okay. Yeah.

[Big T]

Number six, College Football Playoff on New Year's Day.

[Aryan]

Okay.

[Big T]

Number seven, Christmas Day because you've got two NFL games, you've got five NBA games. Number eight, Thanksgiving, the NFL triple header and college basketball.

[Aryan]

Fine.

[Big T]

Number nine, MLB opening day.

[Aryan]

Fine.

[Big T]

Number 10, Thanksgiving eve of feast week

[Aryan]

has been ruined a little bit by the Vegas tournament, but acceptable.

[Big T]

I dis. I disagree. I don't. Feast week does not do it for me.

[Aryan]

Yeah, I don't. I don't love the list. Masters. I enjoy the Masters. As a casual golf observer and a native Georgian. It's not for

[Eric]

that's the one of the ones I agreed on.

[Big T]

I think it's up there. I think it's really. And big T. Maybe because of the

[Eric]

coverage is so it has a mystique but it's. Yeah. The tournament in general. It's the first major the season so it's like it's. It's the. The best golfers in the world. And then no other golfing tournament covers their event like the Masters. It is top tier quality golf content and so I think it's the best thing to watch in golf.

[Aryan]

Oh, it is in golf. Certainly I'd have it in, in the top 10, just not four.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Aryan]

Well, depending on how you. I mean, my first 14 would be college football Saturdays. If they have to be separate, that would just be 1 through 14. But if you're just. I mean, other than that, I don't hate first weekend of the tournament as one. I would go

[Eric]

no super bowl at all.

[Big T]

No super bowl is interesting.

[Aryan]

I actually like that the super bowl isn't, isn't a football event.

[Big T]

I don't think it's the best day of the NFL playoffs. I think the best day of the NFL playoffs is the usually divisional Saturday or Sunday.

[Eric]

Yes, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. But like no NFL football.

[Aryan]

He put, he only put week one, number two, which is crazy.

[Eric]

That's, that's, that's, that's what I don't understand. That's what I understand. If you're going to do enough Football

[Aryan]

Week 1 is like, yeah, put divisional round up if you're going to do that. Thanksgiving I like, especially with the great college basketball games they've put on Thanksgiving Day now.

[Eric]

I do love Thanksgiving day.

[Aryan]

I would have opening day higher. I'm a big opening day guy. Just for vibes. Yeah, it's great. It's just a good day.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Although they're making it too early now. Now we're pushing back into like the, the not even the, like March. It's what, 27th this year or something?

[Big T]

Yeah, it's going to be next Thursday.

[Aryan]

It's going to be sweet 16. No, that's a lot.

[Big T]

But also like what a, what a sports day. That's going to be.

[Aryan]

Agreed. But it needs to be April. April 1st.

[Big T]

I agree.

[Aryan]

Yeah. I just. The, the, the week one and the, the Masters I didn't like. Also I'm not a college footballer playoff guy. So like Christmas day, the NFL has, has really transformed that. I, I'm not an NBA guy, so the Christmas NBA never did anything for me. I'd have to sit down and make my list.

[Eric]

But when it, when it first came out, it was like when you had like really good LeBron versus Steph. And like when it first came out, harden the rockets that was fired up. That was fire.

[Aryan]

The Christmas NBA commercial where they did Jingle Bells with the, the shots. That was sick.

[Big T]

So good.

[Eric]

Lit lit. LeBron just came out with a commercial with the beats. Yeah. Have you seen it? Yeah, that. They did that really well. The golf one. Dog. Yeah, he's dog at golf and he's like, block out the noise. Play again. They did that well. That was a good commercial. I liked it.

[Aryan]

Trying to think if there are any sports days that should be on here that aren't. I'm thinking days specifically, not necessarily just events.

[Big T]

Yeah, I got one.

[Aryan]

What's that?

[Big T]

It's the first Saturday in May, so that's Kentucky Derby. Yeah. Kentucky Derby day. You've got usually big NBA playoff game. You've got Stanley cup playoffs going on. There's usually a fight, too. Like a. Some sort of big fight is on that day. I'm not the biggest combat sports guy, but there'll usually be one that'll make me pay attention on that day.

[Eric]

Those are good days. Like if. Like back in the Mayweather days. The. Yeah, but even Bud and like his prime, too.

[Big T]

I mean, and you got baseball on that day, too.

[Eric]

You go back a little bit. Like the Tyson days and Tyson days was. That was an event, man. Didn't last long, but it was an event.

[Big T]

Yep. So I would. I would include that out. Jake, respectfully, Thanksgiving, eve of feast week. Get the out of here with that.

[Eric]

We don't.

[Big T]

No, it's fine. If you want to. If you want to watch college hoops the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, that's fine. You can do that. Not the best day. Not in the top 10. I would also think about switching out NFL Sunday week one for like, just NFL Sunday in general.

[Aryan]

Right. Like I said, My first 10 are the 10 Saturdays after labor Day.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Or at the very least, I would. I would make that divisional playoff Sunday. Let's just call it Sunday. That's usually the best day. But yes, Thursday is a bet. It's. It's a great day.

[Aryan]

Love, Jake. Always. Always great to see him on tv.

[Big T]

Yep. Love you, Jake. And we will see you guys next Tuesday on nano Dosing.

[Aryan]

Good boy.

[Eric]

Look at his accent.

[Aryan]

Well, he went into, like. That wasn't really easy.

[Big T]

Dude. Tucker saying goodbye.

[Aryan]

Goodbye.

[Big T]

That's awesome. Your Tucker is the best.