The Business of Cartels: Power, Politics, and Profit | Feb 26, 2026

Summary

Macrodosing: The Business of Cartels – Power, Politics, and Profit

February 26, 2026
Hosts: Big T, Chief, Jersey Jerry (PFT & Arian Foster absent)

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Overview

This episode of Macrodosing takes a deep dive into the world of Mexican drug cartels—exploring their organization, influence, business tactics, and the far-reaching tentacles of their power. The conversation is equal parts irreverent and inquisitive, touching on the cartels’ violence, their infiltration into legitimate enterprises (like avocados), and the difficulties the Mexican government and the US face in confronting them. The guys also brainstorm what it would actually take to land an interview with a cartel member at a Mexican resort—and make a live call to a real hotel to see how feasible their wild idea might be.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

I. Cartels & the Power Structure (54:12 – 63:05)

• El Mencho & the Jalisco New Generation Cartel

  • Recent news of El Mencho’s death, as he was found and killed following a tip involving his lover (56:22–56:36).
  • Cartels are characterized as “unimaginably evil,” with methods that shock even the hosts. Example: crematoriums and hundreds of victim shoes found at El Mencho’s compound (56:48–57:07).
  • Cartels are not only well-armed but have “rocket launchers, American weapons—everything.” (57:07–57:12)

• Weapons and US Involvement

  • 80% of guns found with Mexican cartels traced to America (57:12–57:19).
  • Discussion of Fast and Furious, the failed US sting allowing guns to be sold to cartel-linked buyers in hopes of tracking them (58:45–60:26).

"It would appear the cartels." – Big T (59:07)

"You know what might have been a better version of that? Just don't do that." – Big T (59:40)

• Black Markets & How Cartels Operate

  • Cartels get weapons and drugs through complex cross-border operations, often with indirect government complicity or strategic negligence (60:26–61:14).

• Public Relations & Cartel Influence

  • Cartels control not only illicit trades but also legitimate businesses like avocados, and use PR to maintain a favorable image in local communities (84:08–85:21).

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II. Cartels’ Integration with Tourism & Local Business (67:04–68:48)

• Cartels run much of Mexico's economy, including resorts
  • Tourist safety: “The resorts, you’ll never have a problem—because they’re run by the cartels.” – Chief (67:08–67:16)
  • Resort areas are profitable, so cartels ensure tourists are safe to keep money flowing (67:16–67:27).
  • Cartels dig trenches and create blockades during times of unrest, showing control over infrastructure (66:39–67:04).

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III. Cartel Interview Stunt—An On-Air Plan (70:00–79:27)

• Live hotel call: Can the guys interview a cartel member at a resort?
  • The crew hatches a plan to contact a resort in Puerto Vallarta and openly proposes bringing a Barstool video crew to interview a cartel representative on camera—with faces blurred and voices altered for safety (70:00–71:11, 72:25–76:11).
  • The hotel staff doesn’t immediately shut it down, leaving the (half-joking) door open.

“We're interested in, you know, staying at your place of business... possibly having the opportunity to interview a cartel member.” – Jersey Jerry (73:35)

• Discussing risk, ethics, and value
  • The hosts joke about how risky the project is (“What are the chances of being murdered?” 81:41–82:33), but also note the value in hearing the cartels' own story and the potential viral reach.

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IV. Weapons, Business, Corruption (58:07–61:41)

• US government operations

  • Fast and Furious was a failed attempt to track cartel weapons sales.
  • Problem: Letting guns be sold allowed violence to escalate without resulting in major busts.

• Black-market economics

  • Cartels diversify, taking over avocado farms (85:05–85:13) and laundering money through legitimate channels.
  • Corruption in politics and law enforcement is pervasive.

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V. The “Cartel PR Interview”—Would They Do It?

(76:39–83:36)

• The crew debates what gift to bring (“What do you get the cartel that has everything?” – Chief, 83:08).
• They half-seriously plot logistics: five-star resort, pre-approved questions, paying for the privilege, and even estimate the odds of being killed on such a trip.
• Discussion on Mexican tourism: "You get there and just go to the concierge, because ultimately whoever is managing that hotel, they're in the cartel." (71:32)

Notable Quotes

"They're misunderstood." – Chief, on the cartel’s potential PR motive (78:14)

"There's an argument to be made... good content makes it a good idea." – Big T (81:36)

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Notable Humorous Asides & Quotes

• “That would be a pretty funny video if you and I went to Puerto Vallarta right now and we just checked into a resort.” – Chief (70:12)
• “You just go to the concierge because ultimately whoever is managing that hotel, they're in the cartel.” – Big T (71:32)
• “Our deaths would be reduced to content.” – Chief (78:26)

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Additional Segments: Pop Culture, Sports, and Lifestyle (42:00–54:12)

While the first half of the show is dominated by lighter discussions (sports, city living, movie talk), the vibe is classic Macrodosing:

• Hockey & the State of the Union
  • Extended talk on Connor Hellebuyck and the value of a Stanley Cup vs. Olympic gold (18:00–21:29)
• Conspiracy & US History
  • Project Artichoke and CIA mind control: context on how the US government has tested mass control measures in the past (27:36–30:17)
• Consumer-Tech Paranoia
  • Security flaws in “smart” vacuums and fears about constant surveillance (21:31–24:01)

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Key Timestamps

• 54:12 – Cartel segment begins; recent news about El Mencho's death
• 56:48 – Crematoriums and evidence of mass killings
• 58:45 – 'Fast and Furious' gun running operation discussed
• 66:39 – Cartel roadblocks and control of infrastructure
• 67:08 – Cartels ensuring tourist safety (as a business investment)
• 70:00 – Stunt: calling a real Puerto Vallarta hotel about arranging a cartel interview
• 72:25 – Hotel call continues; no immediate rejection
• 73:35 – Outlining the bold plan to hotel staff
• 78:26 – Hosts joke about their potential death becoming “content”
• 84:08 – Discussion of cartel involvement in avocado farming/trade

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Memorable Moments

• The live, on-tape attempt to arrange a cartel interview at a luxury resort (70:00–76:11).
• Candid risk assessment of such a project: “I’d say in total 15%.” – Chief, fatality odds (81:54)
• Cartel-PR banter: “Just tell us how we got it all wrong while we stay at a five-star resort.” (84:24)
• Reflecting the hosts’ genuine mix of curiosity, irreverence, and self-awareness about “dosing” knowledge on tough topics.

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Conclusion

This episode is a wild and insightful ride—equal parts true crime, business analysis, travelogue, and Barstool bro-comedy. The crew demystifies cartel operations, shines a skeptical light on US involvement in the drug war, and ponders the unique dynamics of cartel power. Most memorably, their on-air effort to arrange first-person access to cartel leadership blends Macrodosing’s trademark blend of audacity and humor. The episode is rounded out by pop culture debates, lighter city-life anecdotes, and the ever-present drive for “good content”—even if it means risking (hypothetically?) life and limb.

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For listeners interested in cartels, organized crime, black-market economics, or just smart, audacious podcasting, this episode delivers a memorable macrodose.

Transcript

[Big T]

Hey, macrodosing listeners, you can find us

[Jersey Jerry]

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[Big T]

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[Chief]

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[Rianne Fran]

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[Big T]

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[Jersey Jerry]

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[Big T]

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[Chief]

If they say we got it set

[Jersey Jerry]

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[Chief]

Well, that was my next question.

[Big T]

Get the passport ready.

[Chief]

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[Jersey Jerry]

Great crew.

[Big T]

Yeah. Men in black here. We're all looking.

[Chief]

Wow. I haven't even looked at that.

[Jersey Jerry]

Can I also say something? Three great beards as well. She's going for the little scruffy look, but scruffy's in.

[Big T]

But it's the best I can do. If I could swap with you, I would do it in a heartbeat. You could though, if you wanted to. This is as thick as it really comes in. On the sides. Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

You don't know. You don't ever let it go even more.

[Big T]

If I let it go, it just, it looks like I got pube face.

[Jersey Jerry]

I feel like we got three good beers.

[Chief]

But see, that was me for a long time. And you just. There's a, a three or four week period where it's bad, but you just have to go through it.

[Big T]

Yeah, brother, I'm almost 40 years old. I think, I think this is the face I'm dealing with.

[Jersey Jerry]

You haven't done this tip.

[Chief]

How long have you let it go?

[Big T]

I mean, I, I don't ever shave. I just kind of buzz.

[Jersey Jerry]

He's not shaving the right way. That's the thing I was getting to. You got to shave up.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Jersey Jerry]

You got to get the razor and you gotta obviously trim it with the buzzer and then, you know, put the shaving cream on and shave up. Go against it, go against it, go against it.

[Chief]

It took me a long time to learn that.

[Big T]

How often do you actually take a razor, your face?

[Jersey Jerry]

Once a week.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Jersey Jerry]

The barber does, does the rest.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Jersey Jerry]

Like if it gets too.

[Big T]

Yeah, you're lined up pretty good.

[Jersey Jerry]

If it gets scruffy here, I'll just take the razor and do it myself.

[Big T]

Yeah. Other than that, I try to get the White Sox Dave beard going up by your eyeballs. Yeah.

[Chief]

So you use a, A real razor? Yeah, I only use a, like a buzzer.

[Jersey Jerry]

Really big T. Yeah.

[Chief]

Well, you can take the guard off it. And so like up here, like you're talking about her down here, I'll just do that.

[Jersey Jerry]

Never, Never a razor.

[Chief]

No. And then with the guard on it, I'll just.

[Jersey Jerry]

Do you know how to use a razor?

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

Okay.

[Chief]

I did. Well, I didn't have a beard till I was 24.

[Jersey Jerry]

Okay.

[Chief]

So I, I, you, I, I would just shave it bald for a long time. And now I see pictures of myself and I'm like, I can't believe I, I was walking around like that.

[Big T]

Yeah. Yeah. Mine is also like, I feel like it helps hide the fat face a little bit.

[Chief]

Agree.

[Big T]

So, yeah, yeah. Like they're, I, this is a couple years ago. I don't know why I had the impulse, but I completely shaved my faces. When we're in the Belmont office before everyone moved here, and I was doing a podcast with Danny, Conrad and Eddie, and they're like, yo, like, what is going on? Like, I got a little bit of a health crisis going on. Yeah. And I just. I was like, I'm gonna do something about this.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I just never did.

[Jersey Jerry]

No.

[Big T]

I've just. I've been living at this weight plus or minus five for, like, the last four years.

[Jersey Jerry]

It's tough to get down. It's tough to get down sometimes.

[Big T]

Gotta do those Chinese workouts with the. With the fellows.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Chief]

That office, by the way, y' all really undersold. It was. That was a bad spot to be in.

[Big T]

I thought it. What do you mean by that?

[Chief]

Crime. The office itself.

[Big T]

So I thought the office itself. Well, you think about where we're coming from.

[Chief]

Well, see, I never saw that. But, yes, obviously, that was a disaster.

[Big T]

That was like. It's like a Portnoy viral clip being like, what are you doing? Like, we had a TV repairman, an immigration lawyer, a real estate guy, an accountant, and then us in a room. Like a room maybe half the size of this, really, with a table. And we all just kind of sat around the table and blogged and then did our shows from the same spot.

[Jersey Jerry]

It was some curtain. Right. There was like a curtain.

[Big T]

We know it was a moving blanket.

[Jersey Jerry]

Okay.

[Big T]

But that was functional. Is for acoustics. So we had a lot going on. The Belmont office. Yeah. Because it's right by the Belmont Red Line. Like Clark and Belmont. There's always. There's like a.

[Chief]

Across the store from a sex shop.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

Well, I think that's. That's. That's a gay street there.

[Big T]

Getting that way. Yeah. It's sort of near Boys Town a little bit, which is not called Boys on anymore because it's not inclusive enough. Now they just call it North Halstead.

[Chief]

Really?

[Big T]

Yeah. Yeah. So it was Boys Town. Like, signage everywhere. And then maybe four or five years ago, they're like, this isn't fair to all the other people. And so they got rid of that, and. But it was really the Red Line stop at Belmont was the problem. We. We had one day where we're. You walk into the front door of the office, there was just a massive diarrhea. Shit all over the front door. So perfect. Yeah. So I would say that the crime historically where we are now is worse than that spot.

[Chief]

Yeah. We're not an incredible spot now.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

Really? Well, I don't venture out much. It's not a big good spot over here.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

So it's not terrible, but it's not great.

[Big T]

Yeah. And this is a little bit of a dead zone. But like I would say that the border still like you don't want to go too far south of grand, although that's getting better. And then you don't want to ever go really west of Western.

[Jersey Jerry]

Okay.

[Big T]

So Western Avenue. So it was. There's like Ashland, Damon. Western as like the next major street and beyond that. And I lived over there for a few years. Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

I will say one day early on when I was driving in, I was trying different routes to get to the office and somewhere. I honestly can't remember but the GPS was like, hey, you can take this route for. To save like seven minutes. So it was like back roads to get to the office and about, I'd say about eight or nine minutes from here. Within driving distance, there's full blown prostitution.

[Big T]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

And it was like, I want to say early in the morning too, like 7:38am yeah, they're still working. They're just, they're working girls outside shift in. Yeah.

[Chief]

Chief took us when we, we did a stream last summer. The, the baseball 27 out stream and it was an hour and a half away. Chief took us through. I mean the worst part of town I've seen since I've lived here. He got off the interstate and was taking us through.

[Big T]

Yeah, it's a, it was a rough

[Chief]

part of town at night.

[Big T]

Those stop signs, you just kind of roll through them. Yeah, that part of.

[Chief]

Did you do that on purpose or.

[Big T]

No, I was following the gps, I think.

[Chief]

Yeah, it took us off. There was traffic so it took us off the interstate.

[Big T]

Yeah. And I would not have done that at night. And then when I lived, I lived on Thomas street, which. And I was like a block west of Western. The next cross street is Campbell. And in the two years that I lived there, there were three shootings that I like heard and like cops come in and there was one time where it happened around like midnight. And so the dog was all going crazy and there were cops everywhere. So I was just like, all right, I'm going to take the dog out. Because he was still like kind of puppy phase. So I take him out. I'm walking down my front steps and there's like this group of teenagers there. And I had headphones in, but nothing was playing and they were just talking and they go, dude, remember when I got shot last year? Nobody found out. Shit, you're going to be fine. And I was like, oh, God.

[Chief]

Oh, my God.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, that.

[Chief]

So when I moved to New York as an intern, I had negative money and I lived in an apartment in Flatbush, Brooklyn, for, I think it was $750 a month. And I got there, like, I got off the plane, took an Uber to. To my apartment, and I had a mental breakdown when I got there. I did not, because I. I had to do. I went to New York to interview and then I went back to school to finish my last couple months. And I didn't have time to go like apartments or anything, so sight unseen. And it was. It was not a good place to be. The week that I moved out, there was a double homicide at the front door. And several weeks before I moved out, I was walking downstairs to go to work one day and there were cops, like, positioned all in the building. And I was like, that's probably not good. And I came back later that day, they were still there. And I was like, can y' all tell me what's going on? They're like, no, we can't. And I'm like, why live directly above this apartment? I'd love to know what's going on. They're like, sorry, man, we can't get

[Big T]

in the bathtub in case there's stray bullets coming.

[Chief]

And it turned out to be a domestic situation where the. The man was holding a woman hostage, kind of. So several bad things happened around that area, but I did make it out.

[Big T]

Glad to hear that.

[Chief]

Lived in the West Village after that, so pretty big upgrade. The first day I was an intern, Erica had all the interns in like a meeting, and she was like, go around, say where you're from and like, where you're living in the city. And so Jack McCarthy was like, I'm living in, you know, wherever. Yeah, everybody goes around. They get to me and said, hey, I'm Connor, I'm from Mount Juliet, Tennessee, and I'm living in Flatbush. And everyone just uproarious laughter. And I was like, yeah, I kind of. I get it now. It's. And so I lived there for three months.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Short term lease, huh?

[Chief]

Yeah. And that was the longest three months of my life.

[Big T]

Yeah, I bet.

[Chief]

Not fun, but. But, you know, it's the way it goes in the big city.

[Big T]

That's the way it goes. Yeah. It's also like some kind of house hunting right now too. And you're looking like kind of around here, and it's like, if you want anything that looks Good, decent in a sort of safe area. 700 grand.

[Chief]

It's fucking crazy for a $200,000 house.

[Big T]

Yeah. And it's like I remember what my parents house cost, which is way out in the suburbs, and they bought it in 1998 and it's much bigger than any place I could have here, but it's like. Like they paid like 400 grand.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And it's like, you know, it's like, how the fuck.

[Jersey Jerry]

Like you don't want to go to the suburbs?

[Big T]

Not yet. Maybe in a few years. Gotcha.

[Chief]

So how many is a few?

[Big T]

Well, I've told you, but I've got some life updates coming, so.

[Chief]

Okay.

[Big T]

You know, so.

[Chief]

Well, I would have thought that would preempt it.

[Big T]

No, I think.

[Chief]

Or prompt it, I suppose.

[Big T]

Yeah. I would say once there's a kid in the picture, maybe you start to.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Chief]

You know, jj, tough break for your property values.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. Still holding on to a little bit of hope.

[Big T]

I think you're going to be all right.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. But like, what. What would they put there if they're not going to put a stadium?

[Big T]

What do you do with I. Gun to my head, I still think they stay in Illinois and Arlington. Makes the most sense.

[Jersey Jerry]

It does make the most sense.

[Chief]

I thought it was like done deal.

[Big T]

No.

[Jersey Jerry]

Indiana.

[Big T]

No, no.

[Jersey Jerry]

It's closest it's been. Yeah, but not done deal.

[Big T]

But there's also reports that the president, Kevin Warren kind of went rogue on the announcements and the negotiat. Hammond in Indiana. And so now the owner, George McCaskey is furious with the president. I can't picture that guy getting mad. He does not swear. When they had the Bears Hard knocks last summer, two summers ago, it was the first time where HBO got like edits be like, you can't say the fuck word. So. Because they're that like strict. Like he's such like a nice kind of old man with a mustache. Like he. He is like a certified ref. So your Sycamore is like way out west. So he lives out in Sycamore, which is like farms.

[Jersey Jerry]

Okay.

[Big T]

And he just like in his spare time, he just like ref soccer and softball like that. That's how he spends his time. Yeah.

[Chief]

But yeah. So hopefully you get that done.

[Big T]

I think you're gonna have a stadium there. I. I'm holding out hope for you. Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

I'm holding on to a little bit of hope.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

But do you want that? You want all that traffic?

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, yeah, I want that bad. I would have never bought there. I mean. But I will say this.

[Chief]

It's a good spot.

[Jersey Jerry]

It's a good spot. It's a good spot. I'm like three to five minutes from. You name it, it's right there.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

You know, but great spot. Great neighbors, good neighborhood. Family friendly. You know, a little. Little diverse, which I like.

[Chief]

Good.

[Jersey Jerry]

Which I like. I like the diversity. You know, the Spanish, black Indian culture

[Chief]

and all that stuff.

[Jersey Jerry]

I like that. So, yeah, you know, we'll see what happens.

[Big T]

Good high schools. Good high school.

[Jersey Jerry]

Oh, a lot of. A lot of Asian too. There's a lot of Asian. Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

The Mitsuyama Market is in my town. Have you heard of them? Have you ever been.

[Chief]

I'm sure Bloodman. What has been.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. So Spider and I think Ms. Are going on Saturday. They're taking a trip. I'm going to try to meet them over at the Mid Mitsuyama. I might be pronouncing that wrong, but it's a. It's like an Asian grocery store, but restaurant with vendors at the same time. Huh. Incredible. Incredible. You know, they got those ramen, you know, that ramen little thing. Whatever. They got a bakery in there. It's a grocery store. It's great stuff.

[Big T]

Have you been to the Gagnam grocery store? It's kind of near here. It's like off of like Milwaukee.

[Chief]

It's probably where Bloodman goes. I'm not sure he goes through an Asian.

[Big T]

There's two different Asian grocery stores. One has like a big green awning. I think it's on Chicago Avenue. I've never been in that. Gagnam market was like, yes, I've been. It's.

[Jersey Jerry]

I've actually been with Blutman.

[Big T]

It's insane.

[Jersey Jerry]

I've been with Bloodman. That's so funny. Yeah.

[Big T]

Where it's like you're. I can't believe that's in America.

[Jersey Jerry]

There's like a little tiny food court there, right?

[Big T]

Yes. First walk in and there's just like neon signs and video games and it's like. This is a grocery store.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Chief]

It's wild.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

Great.

[Big T]

Great.

[Jersey Jerry]

Great little.

[Big T]

The food courts.

[Jersey Jerry]

Awesome food court there. Yeah, food's great.

[Chief]

You were on WUB when I talked about seed to table, right?

[Big T]

Yes.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

It's my favorite place in the world.

[Big T]

Yeah, I will be checking that out.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, I gotta check that out.

[Big T]

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[Chief]

Anybody watch State of the Union last night? I did not. It was on the same time as college basketball, which was poor planning on President Trump's part. So, yeah, maybe good planning also. Longest in history.

[Big T]

Is that right?

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Chief]

I think by a significant margin.

[Jersey Jerry]

How long?

[Chief]

Hold, please.

[Jersey Jerry]

I just seen a few clips.

[Chief]

That's it. The. The clip that is going the most viral, I think, is the stand up. If you agree the US Government should protect American citizens over illegal immigrants.

[Big T]

I saw that clip. Thanks to you.

[Chief]

One side stood up, one did not.

[Big T]

I find that a little bit insane, I gotta say.

[Chief]

Some. Some do.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

I'm trying to find the. So Bill Clinton's record was an hour and 28 minutes. I'm just seeing that it's the longest. I'm not seeing how long it went. I think he went two hours, 110 minutes. So an hour 50.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Still got the stamina, man.

[Big T]

Hour 50 is just. It's so long to talk about anything.

[Chief]

Lot of that's applause.

[Big T]

Yeah. Stand up. Said probably kind of like church. Stand up, sit down.

[Chief]

Yeah, sure.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

But yeah, so that clip I saw. I saw Ilan Omar was yelling at

[Jersey Jerry]

him a bunch, you killed Americans. Right? I see that clip. Yeah.

[Chief]

The hot. He brought out the hog. I heard he gave out a lot of medals.

[Big T]

He gave Connor Hellebuck, the goalie for Team usa, the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

[Chief]

Deserved.

[Big T]

Deserve. But, like, he. That guy's kind of a robot. Like, I've never seen him smile, never seen him give any sort of expression. He just goes like this. Sitting in the stands, two thumbs up, no smile, stone face.

[Chief]

That's how I want my goalie. Yeah, he just. He stops pucks.

[Big T]

He does now.

[Chief]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big T]

Well, I mean, like, his. His whole.

[Jersey Jerry]

You.

[Chief]

We watched the game together.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Going into the game, you were talking shit about Connor Hellebuck.

[Big T]

He fucking shits down his leg.

[Chief]

Not anymore.

[Big T]

Every single playoffs for the Winnipeg Jazz, he's won the mvp. He's won Vezen a goalie of the year Many, many times. He's been the best goalie in the league for five, six years. In big spots historically. Like, he's been pulled, like, multiple times in the playoffs because he just mentally feels like. Just can't do it. So he had the game of his life at the right time. Love him. I'll never talk shit about him again. Love Connor Hellebuck. American hero, Presidential Medal of Freedom, all of that. He's great. But, yeah, like, I was shocked. But if we're being honest, without him and without, like, McKinnon missing one, like, that game could have been five.

[Chief]

One like Canada, but none of them were, like, saves he should have made. He made saves he shouldn't have.

[Big T]

Correct. He had the game of his life. So the one, the. The most viral one was his reaching back to the goal line with a stick. And then he had celebrity on a breakaway. He had many, many.

[Chief]

David breakaway.

[Big T]

David breakaway. He had many times where it's just like, holy shit, I can't believe this guy is doing it right now.

[Chief]

Yeah, I mean, like, McKinnon should have scored, but there was nothing Helliba could have done about that.

[Big T]

Correct.

[Chief]

Like, so even the ones they should have scored. Would you rather, as a goalie, win a gold medal, have one of the greatest performances of all time to the point that you're awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom or win a Stanley Cup?

[Big T]

I think I said this on web yesterday. I think the answer is always Stanley Cup.

[Chief]

It's just, I think for most players, yeah, but for him, I mean, he had one of the greatest games in the history of hockey.

[Big T]

For sure. For sure. But it's. I mean, it's hard to say because you look at a guy like Jim Craig, who was the goalie for Team USA in 1980, the Miracle on Ice team. He made a whole career outside of hockey based on that game where they all have. But, like, him especially, like, he, he has, like, gold medal investing. Like, he. He's done like a ton of things where then he's like, still a motivational speaker. Like, he does a lot of things based on that. I don't know that Hellebuck wants. Can do that because of his personality or will need to do that because he's made a shit ton of money in the NHL. But I think, like, winning the Stanley cup, your name's on it forever. Like, there is just. I think there's. It's just a different level. Like, I think most hockey players would always take the Stanley Cup.

[Chief]

I agree. And for most guys, but I think he transcended, like, for sure. Like, if you're Charlie McAvoy, yeah, you'd probably rather win the Stanley cup, but

[Big T]

yeah, yeah, for sure. Charlie McAvoy. But even, like, Jack Hughes is a household name now in a way that he wasn't three days ago.

[Chief]

I think I saw his Instagram went from 600k to 1.1 million, right?

[Big T]

And, like, he could win the Stanley cup. And not have that type of a bump.

[Chief]

Oh, no, of course. Not even close.

[Big T]

Right. But I still think Jack Hughes would be like, give me the Stanley Cup.

[Chief]

Yeah, probably. But, like, he scored the greatest goal ever.

[Big T]

Yeah, no doubt. But I think. I do think he would still take the Cup.

[Chief]

Yeah, probably.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Here's a story that I want Yalls opinion on, because I was a little taken aback by this. Jj, have you seen. There was an engineer who had a Romo brand robot vacuum. It's like a Roomba. Okay. And he wanted to somehow, like, get into the coding of the system to where he could control it with his PlayStation controller. So he figured out how to do that, and he needed. He used an AI coding assistant, Claude Code, to reverse engineer how the home robot vacuum communicated with DJI's remote cloud servers. But then he also needed. He found he needed like a backend code or something to go in and finish it. And so he did that. And when he got into the servers of this company, he actually ended up with access to 7,000 of their vacuums, which have cameras and microphones in them for some reason.

[Jersey Jerry]

That's scary.

[Chief]

So he. He got access to 7,000 people's house.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

He could control their vacuum, he could see in their house, he could hear them. That's wild. And I mean, thankfully this guy, I think the Verge is who he called and was like, hey, I did this. This just happened. But like, just to deal with the microphone. I don't know.

[Big T]

Yeah. Why was it weird?

[Jersey Jerry]

The camera I get. Because in the robot needs to.

[Chief]

But I mean, they put a mic and everything that My. My TV remote has a. Yeah. Mic in it.

[Big T]

But that even makes sense because you can do voice commands to your.

[Chief]

But I mean, talk about wholly unnecessary.

[Big T]

Dude. I love when I'm on. I got rid of Comcast, but back in the day we had that voice remote. I'd just be like, put on the Blackhawks. Yeah. And like, there is something just kind of nice about that.

[Chief]

I just. I don't do voice. I don't know why. So quick it is on anything, really. Like, I don't.

[Big T]

Or even cycling through your apps. I. That's one of these things about all the streaming things without cable. Like, I miss cable, but it's just like put on Amazon prime, put on Paramount, put on HBO Max, where it's like, you used to be able to just do that with your Comcast. Now I gotta like, go back to the home screen, cycle through, load it up.

[Chief]

I mean, mine, you could do that.

[Big T]

You can do a Voice command.

[Chief]

Well, it's an Amazon tv, so it has Alexa in it.

[Big T]

Yeah. Okay.

[Chief]

Which I hate.

[Big T]

I don't trust Alexa.

[Chief]

No, of course not.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

That's the other thing. And I hadn't even considered that when I usually make this point, but when people were like, oh, it's so difficult to find what. Anything's on these days. It's really not. And I had never even considered just doing Voice.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Oh, the. The NFL game. It's usually on cbs, but now it's on Netflix. Okay, go click Netflix. You know?

[Big T]

Yeah, but it's like, you haven't had a situation where you're looking for a game you're cycling through and you're going. Like, I've had times. Never once where I'm going. I've opened seven different apps.

[Chief]

Now, where the.

[Big T]

Where is this?

[Chief]

Maybe it's a superpower of mine. I know where every game is.

[Big T]

Mazel toss. Yeah.

[Chief]

And maybe that's just me. Maybe the more casual viewer doesn't know that I know where every game said.

[Big T]

Well, and it's like, I am. Like, I know the things that I watch a lot. Like, if I'm watching hockey, I generally know where those are. But they. They will do. Like, the Blackhawks are on some special thing, but every once in a while, they're on ESPN plus. And, you know, so it's like, you're like. You don't necessarily know, so you're like, wait, where. Where is this game? And I just cannot seem to find it. Sometimes the Blackhawks are especially bad, But I'm a very casual college basketball fan. But, like, this time of year when there's not a lot on and the tournament's coming up and I'll want to watch a game, and I assume everything's just on ESPN plus a lot of times it's not sometimes things. And then it's like, now you got the Peacock situation, where it's like, I used to have Peacock exclusively for soccer on Saturday mornings. Now, if I, like, happen to care about the NBA for five minutes, it might be on there. So I would rather it just be how it used to be.

[Chief]

Which is What? There'd be six channels, and you can only watch.

[Big T]

I'm not talking 1992. I'm talking, like, 2016. 2016 is kind of when everything went insane.

[Chief]

We might have got kind of.

[Big T]

We might have gone just too far in 2016.

[Chief]

And it. It seems, like, so recent, but it was 10 years ago.

[Big T]

Yeah, I know.

[Chief]

I remember 2016 very well.

[Big T]

Yeah, so do I. I mean, I was 30.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Big T]

So I don't remember nothing in 2016.

[Jersey Jerry]

No.

[Chief]

Were you?

[Jersey Jerry]

No, No, I was doing good.

[Chief]

Oh, okay. Good.

[Big T]

You know, because you're like. You're a guy. I can never pin down their age.

[Chief]

Really?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I. I feel like you've lived a lot of life and.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And now like, I still feel young, though. I'm not saying you're not young.

[Chief]

You are young, but like, present older.

[Jersey Jerry]

Really?

[Big T]

Yeah. I. You could tell me you are anywhere from 25 to 40 and I would believe it.

[Jersey Jerry]

Really? Yeah.

[Big T]

I've gotten some of that. Is like you got the kid like, you know, two. Two now? Yeah.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

Two.

[Big T]

Congrats.

[Jersey Jerry]

Maybe a third.

[Big T]

I don't know.

[Chief]

Oh, maybe a fourth. Stop.

[Big T]

You got twins coming?

[Chief]

No, no.

[Jersey Jerry]

We'll see what happens.

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[Chief]

The only other thing I had in the news was, did you see this? CIA declassified.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Vaccine business. So apparently this was declassified in the 80s, but then it got re. Put out there or something.

[Big T]

I think people. I think people are into like, declassified docs are hot in the street. Yeah.

[Chief]

Maybe just someone found it.

[Big T]

Yeah. And it's like, wait, what the fuck is this? Yeah, so it's recycled. You want to explain the whole.

[Chief]

Yeah. So this is from, I believe, 1951-56, Project Artichoke, which was the precursor to MK Ultra.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

A lot of the same ideas in there. And there's a document, seven pages, it's titled Special research for Artichoke. And the CIA is basically outlining how they could drug the population.

[Jersey Jerry]

Wow.

[Chief]

And they're like, yeah, we could put it in Coca Cola. We could do the water supply, whatever. Vaccines, basically anything.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

And they're like, we can just put whatever we want in there, of course. And so obviously people latched on to the vaccines being, yeah, part of that.

[Big T]

But it could have been in the water towers too. Like, you just don't know anything, anything. And that's like this whole thing about. I feel like I might have talked about it on this show one time, but I read this book a couple years ago called the Devil's Chessboard. It's all about Allen Dulles and his brother and the founding of the CIA, which goes back to like OSS and World War II. And then really came as an official organization under Eisenhower, like around that time. 53. And they get into the chapter about MK Ultra and he was like obsessed with doing, like, mind control stuff. The MK is mind control. And so he wanted to get funding for this project, so he had to give like a presentation and in order. But if you go into something like this and it's like, yeah, we're gonna do like mind control and remote viewing and all this, like, shit, people are like, you're fucking insane. So what he did was like, false, like, created fake documents being like, the Russians are doing this. And they're like, oh, the Russians are doing this. We got to catch up. How much money do you need? So, like, that was kind of like the, like his strategy. He would just use the Cold War and the Soviets as a means to get whatever he wanted. And that was like the genesis of that. And so this art, you know, Project Artichoke was probably like a lower budget version of what ultimately became MK Ultra when he convinced everyone to just let him do whatever the fuck he wanted.

[Jersey Jerry]

I got, I got snapped on by a doctor once for what, I guess four years ago. There's a, there's a hepatitis shot. They try to give the infants the newborns right away.

[Big T]

This is.

[Jersey Jerry]

And you know, I didn't know obviously much about, about vaccines and whatnot. And I was just asking a question like, like, hey, what is this, like, vaccine? What does it prevent? And it's like A, I think hepatitis B. Is it?

[Big T]

Yeah, it's either B or C. And

[Jersey Jerry]

it's like, you know, like unprotected sex, that stuff. And it's like, they're, they're like, they're newborns. How does, like, why does, why do they need this right now? And she's like, well, can I ask you something? And I was like, yeah, sure. She's like, what's your level of education? I was like, oh, I went to high school, graduated high school. She's like, yeah, you should probably do some research. And it's like, well, I'm asking you because you're, you know, you're the doctor. It's like they get so defensive, right. If you ask and then God forbid you say, and maybe in a couple months, not right now, it's like the world is ending.

[Big T]

Well, the other part of that. So the only way you can get that is through and it's on the schedule. So it's like theoretically mandatory that your child get that. So I can't remember if it's B or C either, but it is. The only way you can get it is through unprotected sex and intravenous drugs. Something that you would hope that your newborn not really exposed to. Right. And they do test the mother beforehand because you can get it.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. They did all that.

[Chief]

Correct.

[Big T]

Everything was good. So she's clear. So there's no risk of that.

[Jersey Jerry]

How's that happening?

[Big T]

How about this? The effects of that vaccine only last 10 years. So by the time, like it, in theory, it could protect you against those diseases when you're in high school age and, you know, starting to get into some nefarious activities. Yeah, it's already gone.

[Jersey Jerry]

See, I didn't know that.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Wow.

[Big T]

Yeah. So it's like you, you kind of just have to like, in theory, just get it again. So it. But it's like once that, once those things are on the schedule, that's a billion dollar business.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. It's crazy. So totally unnecessary.

[Big T]

Totally.

[Chief]

Are doctors getting kickbacks from that?

[Big T]

I. That I don't know. I don't know. But it's. But you see this all the time where it's like there's different ways. Like it doesn't have to be. It's a carrot in the stick where it's like, sure, you could be incentivized and you can make money, but also if you start saying things are outside the norm, then you could have like your license, you know?

[Chief]

I don't think they're allowed to do this anymore. I think I've told this story before, but the greatest days of my life were. My mom's a nurse, so when I was a kid, in the summer, sometimes she would take me to the doctor's office with her and the doctors would pay me to unwrap band Aids. So I just sit in the back room all day and unwrap Band Aids and they'd give me five bucks. But the, the drug reps would bring in these unbelievable lunches. Yeah, Just the greatest spreads you've ever seen. And they were all just absolute rockets. Just. Yeah, just. Just unbelievable.

[Jersey Jerry]

A little bit bricked up and it was awesome.

[Chief]

It was the best days ever. And I think they made it illegal now, where you can't do that. Can't bring in, I think, like, the. The gift amount that drug reps can give you, I think is T and E. Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah. TNA still fine.

[Chief]

Tne. Yeah, I don't. I'll have to look into that, but I believe you can't do it anymore. Yeah, but they would bring in just. I mean, steak and lobster at noon. It was.

[Big T]

Well, there's that movie with Gyllenhaal, and I'm so bad with celebrity names. Anne Hathaway.

[Chief]

Is that loving other drugs.

[Big T]

Yes. And they kind of.

[Rianne Fran]

That's a good.

[Big T]

Yeah, it is a pretty good movie. But they show, like, how, like, he has a counterpart at Pfizer that he's trying to hit on who is the hottest girl you've ever seen. And then obviously, like, he's very handsome and charming. And it's just like, that's like, kind of the industry where it's just like, let's just have hot people go and, like, shower doctors with gifts until they use, like, their company's drugs as, like, their standard prescription for depression or whatever else.

[Chief]

Well, business.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. Didn't RFK do something with the hep vaccine for newborns?

[Big T]

He removed some things from the schedule. Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, I think he did.

[Chief]

Because of the Physician Payment Sunshine act, which I'm not.

[Big T]

They always have to name things like this.

[Chief]

When it was passed, companies must report every meal, every consulting payment, speaking fees, travel reimbursement. The data is public. Patients, journalists and regulators can look it up. That was in 2010.

[Big T]

I think that. That. That's specifically to the pharmaceutical industry, I think.

[Chief]

So. It looks like it was part of Obamacare. That's when it passed.

[Big T]

That should be a thing, like, across the board.

[Chief]

Agreed.

[Big T]

Where it's. You see all these people, they just recycle out of these different. You know, like, it's with the military. It's with every certain. Every type of industry related to the government where they get out and it's like, oh, well, now you're on the board of Northrop Grutman or, you know, all these big Raytheon. And then you go and you do a speaking fee at a college. And it's just like this all, like, cottage industry where it's like, as long as you play ball, you're fucking set for life.

[Chief]

Yeah. You just go from one consulting fir firm to another.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Making 400 grand a year to just give people's phone numbers out.

[Big T]

And, like, have you ever seen what people make for being on the board of these big companies?

[Chief]

Oh, I mean, it's astronomical.

[Big T]

It's like you go to four meetings a year, and they pay a quarter million dollars. Yeah.

[Chief]

It's crazy.

[Big T]

I gotta get a gig like that.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Somebody. I. I would be a good board member.

[Chief]

What's a. What's a company you think you'd be great on the board of.

[Big T]

Well, my previous experience was in packaging, so maybe. Maybe, like.

[Chief]

Yeah, we know.

[Big T]

Maybe like. Yeah, I know this show knows. Maybe, like, Ball, which also had, like, defense contracts at one time.

[Chief]

Really?

[Big T]

Yeah. They were spun off doing what? Because they have all sorts of, like, aluminum and. But it's like a. $15 billion, I'm sure.

[Chief]

Mason jars.

[Big T]

Mason jars. Canning ball. Defense contractor Ball and Arrow.

[Chief]

That's who makes them. Yeah. Nice.

[Big T]

Ball and aerospace technology.

[Chief]

Is that one of those companies like Yamaha that makes motorcycles and pianos and just. Whatever.

[Big T]

Whatever. Yeah, well, it's like. Yeah, I think it's any. I think it's. They can develop different sorts of, like, metals for airplanes and stuff and spacecraft or whatever. And so they had, like, a wing. Like, their big business was, like, the jars and the cans and whatever else. But it's like a $15 billion company, and if I could just be on the board there, guys. Brother. Yeah, I'll be. I'll be quiet. I'll be loud. I'll do whatever you say. Just four times a year, you get a quarter million dollars, you don't even need a vote. I'll vote how they tell me to vote.

[Jersey Jerry]

I think I hacked the. The fruit game a little bit.

[Big T]

How's that?

[Jersey Jerry]

With the. With the ball. Mason jars.

[Chief]

Okay.

[Jersey Jerry]

I was watching a lady on TikTok, and you know, if you go to your grocery store sometimes, let's say you buy a basket or whatever of strawberries, you put them in the fridge, you know, you might see the next, like, two, three days. Some of them start to go bad, you know?

[Big T]

They all go bad.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. Then they all go bad. If you put them in a. In a ball. Mason jar. I'm. I kid you not. Two weeks.

[Big T]

A little water in there, too.

[Jersey Jerry]

A little water? Yeah, a little water in there. Two weeks. It's pretty crazy.

[Big T]

It is crazy. You know, you seal those things up real.

[Chief]

How many mason jars do you need, though, for strawberries before.

[Jersey Jerry]

I have. I have the blueberries, I have the raspberries, I have the strawberries. And then sometimes I put my. My onion. My. Like. Yeah, not the green onion.

[Big T]

Whatever. Well, it'll continue to grow.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. It's pretty crazy.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

In the Mason jar. And then you know it.

[Chief]

But you can fit a whole carton of strawberries in one Mason jar.

[Jersey Jerry]

The big one. Dude. I have ones that are, like, this big.

[Chief]

I've never, like, my parents, I'm sure, had them. I've never bought a Mason jar. I'm not. I'm not up to date on versatile, too.

[Jersey Jerry]

You put a little iced tea in there, too.

[Big T]

My. All of my glassware at home, I got nothing but Mason jars. I have, like, wine glasses and stuff. But, like, if I'm having a glass of water, it's out of the mason.

[Chief]

Are you a sports cup collector?

[Big T]

No.

[Chief]

You're not? No, I'm alone here. Okay. Yeah, I've got.

[Big T]

What do you got? Like, Daytona 500, 1998, buddy.

[Chief]

I've got everything. I have every stadium I've ever been to. Yeah, I've.

[Rianne Fran]

Do you. Do you, like, buy, like, vintage ones or.

[Chief]

Very rarely. So this is mostly just. Just games I've been to.

[Big T]

This is like a modern version of keeping your ticket stub.

[Chief]

Yes. Which I used to do. I had a. I had a book of tickets. And now you can't do it anymore. Yeah, I actually. I have one over here. It's buried back there somewhere. But the University of Tennessee now, if you want a ticket stub that charge you. You can. You can buy one for $20.

[Jersey Jerry]

Wow.

[Chief]

That has. I mean, it looks cool. It has, like, a player on it and on the back, it gives you the stats from the game and everything.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

So, like, fine. But back in my day, that's what you had to have to get into the game.

[Big T]

Yeah, my. My dad was a season ticket holder for the Blackhawks from, like, 2006, like, that year right after the lockout, until 2017. So that was, like, their run. Right. They're in the playoffs basically every year. They went to the San Lincoln finals three times. And you would get. The big book would come from, like, ups, and then you would get, like, the playoff book in April. And there was just something about that smell and, like, rifling through, like, a big booklet of tickets. You're like, this is fucking awesome. Now it's just on your phone and deleted.

[Chief]

We never had season. We had season tickets one year. My mom bought a new car, and when you bought the car, they gave you Falcon season tickets for that year.

[Big T]

Nice.

[Chief]

So. So the.

[Big T]

There's giving away Tickets.

[Chief]

I mean, if you buy a $25,000 car, that's. That's. Those cost what, 800 bucks? I don't know.

[Big T]

Yeah, I guess. I don't know what a Falcon's.

[Chief]

They were like upper level.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Like. But that. You know, Falcon season tickets. And so they came to our house and opening that package was the best day.

[Big T]

Oh, it's awesome.

[Chief]

Yeah, it was great.

[Rianne Fran]

It's like Fever Piss.

[Chief]

Yes.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

When he.

[Chief]

One of my favorite movies.

[Big T]

I'm not a big fan of that movie.

[Chief]

What?

[Big T]

I don't. I don't like.

[Rianne Fran]

We're a pro Fever.

[Big T]

I don't like Jimmy Fallon. Yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

I knew you were gonna see.

[Chief]

Okay, so I don't.

[Rianne Fran]

I'm the biggest Jimmy Fit.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

Are you the Way she is.

[Big T]

Has he been in a movie since then?

[Rianne Fran]

But I understand.

[Chief]

Taxi. I don't know if that was before or after.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Rianne Fran]

Fever Pitch was almost famous.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

Side character.

[Big T]

That is one of my favorite. He's like the. The suit, the management comes in later in the movie. Yeah. That's one of my all time, all time favorite movies.

[Rianne Fran]

It seems that. I think that was like the most of his lasting.

[Chief]

Yeah, I don't love him now either, but he's good in that movie.

[Big T]

In Fever Bitch.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah, Fine. That's fine.

[Chief]

I thought as a baseball guy, you would. You would appreciate it. I would say I had to change the ending because the Red Sox won the World Series. How amazing is that?

[Big T]

Yeah, they. And he and Drew Barrymore run on the field. Right.

[Chief]

They used the Fox cameras from the World Series to have them on the field for the end of that movie.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

I mean, if you love me enough to give away your tickets. I love you enough to not let.

[Chief]

Yes. Great.

[Big T]

What a.

[Rianne Fran]

All time great. All time great line.

[Big T]

Yeah. I don't know if I were gonna rank baseball. My top five baseball movies. I don't think it's in it.

[Chief]

Oh, wow.

[Rianne Fran]

Well, Moneyball's one.

[Big T]

Moneyball. I would have a league of their own in there. Bull Durham. There's Major League.

[Jersey Jerry]

I haven't seen any of those.

[Chief]

Trouble with the Curve.

[Big T]

I've actually.

[Chief]

So Trouble with the Curve.

[Big T]

That's Timberlake and Clint Eastwood.

[Chief]

So Trouble with the Curve. Like Amy Adams is. Do y' all like Trouble with the Curve or Fever Pitch? More Fever. I agree. Because I think Trouble with the Curve is like. It's reheating kind of stinky in a way that. That people would say Fever Pitch is like. The storyline is kind of dumb, but it's. I Like it.

[Rianne Fran]

Yeah, it's so. I love one of those types of movies where the daughter is into the sport. The sport because of the dad and she. And then Justin Timberlake is like, what do you know about ball? And then she literally could everything.

[Chief]

And it's one of those movies where the, the villain in the movie is a scout for the Atlanta Braves. Who's the guy who played. The movie's about the Braves, which is cool. But it's the guy who played Shaggy in like the live action Scooby Doo.

[Big T]

Yeah, I think.

[Chief]

And that takes me completely out of it every time I see it.

[Big T]

Now, if you were dating and you, you know, say you got a hinge date and you find out that this guy is like a real life version of the Jimmy Fallon character in that, what would your reaction be?

[Chief]

What do you mean when you say that?

[Rianne Fran]

Well, if he was a Red Sox fan, I would never know. But just for whatever, he could be

[Big T]

a fan of your favorite team. But he is like it.

[Rianne Fran]

But he's Jimmy Fallon in Fever Pitch level.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Rianne Fran]

That'd be tough.

[Jersey Jerry]

What does that entail?

[Big T]

He's.

[Rianne Fran]

He has. His whole apartment is looking like Fenway. He has season tickets. He has to go to every game. I would love going to the games.

[Big T]

Every single game?

[Rianne Fran]

Yes.

[Chief]

Okay.

[Rianne Fran]

If I could. Baseball, though. 81 games.

[Big T]

81 games. Like, you don't, you can't do anything else.

[Rianne Fran]

That's your, that's your spring, summer, fall.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

That's your whole life. It would be hard because I do feel like, I mean, in the movie we, we see this unfold, it becomes. Which do you care about more, the Red Sox or Drew Barrymore? I would like to hope that my boyfriend who's obsessed with eventually team would be.

[Chief]

To be clear, this is during the greatest season in the history of sports. And they won a World Series for the first time in nearly a century.

[Rianne Fran]

But he was obsessed with them all before. It's not like they just happen to have the movie.

[Big T]

Yeah. And I love baseball. I love the Cubs.

[Rianne Fran]

Right. I love baseball.

[Big T]

I live a 10 minute walk from Wrigley Field. I go a lot. I'll just be like, the weather's nice. I'm going to walk over for the night game, have a hot dog and a couple of beers and go home.

[Rianne Fran]

That's still a completely different reality than what fever pitched.

[Big T]

Jimmy Fallon is correct. And I feel like, I feel like 15 games a year, which is about what I do. I think My record is 18 games. I feel like that's a lot. I Feel like that's a lot of baseball games.

[Rianne Fran]

It is.

[Big T]

Yeah. So I can't imagine doing 81.

[Jersey Jerry]

The 81's crazy.

[Rianne Fran]

I also feel like if. If I remember correctly in this movie, then it becomes Drew Barrymore had, like, at a family event or something, and he was. He's at the dinner meeting, meeting the family, and he's like, la, la la,

[Jersey Jerry]

la, la, la, la.

[Rianne Fran]

Making sure that he doesn't find out the score. Much like, can't do it around other people.

[Big T]

Yeah. Keep your psychosis to yourself. We all do that.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Chief]

We may need to actually do this for a video. I think if you sat me down in front of that movie and paused it and said, do the next minute of dialogue, you could do it. I would do it with like 95% accuracy.

[Big T]

You've seen it that many times or predictable.

[Chief]

No, I've seen that movie 50 times.

[Big T]

Wow.

[Jersey Jerry]

It's a lot of times.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

That.

[Big T]

I think 50 would be my personal record for any movie.

[Chief]

It might be the movie I've seen the most.

[Big T]

Really?

[Chief]

I love it. It's one of my favorite. It's one of my favorites.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Chief]

And it's. It's. Are you.

[Big T]

Are you on a dozen team right now?

[Chief]

Yes.

[Big T]

That should be your niche.

[Chief]

It could be.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

It really could be like. I mean, I know. I know every Pull up. See if you can pull up just a scene from Fever Pitch and we'll play it. And I'll tell you what the next line is.

[Jersey Jerry]

Damn.

[Chief]

And try to make it not. You know, don't do. If you love me enough to sell your tickets. I love you enough not to let you do. Red Sox never let you down. They're here at 105 or at 7:05. There is a game. You think that. And if it gets. And if it gets rained out, guess what? They make it up to you. Is anybody else in your life do that? That's Devil Ray dancing. Johnny Damon. I don't want to say the next line.

[Rianne Fran]

I know. Should we do this one?

[Big T]

That's another problem I have. I've grown to the point where the Boston accent just grates on me.

[Chief]

So it's not one of my favorites.

[Big T]

The drop by gnc. It's where you'll find all the newest creatine innovations.

[Jersey Jerry]

Like new GNC amp Creobolic.

[Big T]

It's a first of its kind formula designed to help athletes.

[Jersey Jerry]

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[Big T]

repair and protect it in ways creatine alone can get it now at gnc.

[Chief]

No, do the. Do the one Sitting in the. Because that's not a.

[Rianne Fran]

This one.

[Chief]

That's. That's kind of a throwaway scene. Okay, so in. In this scene, to set it up, Drew Barrymore is visiting with her parents. I believe it is. It's during spring break. Jimmy Fallon.

[Rianne Fran]

It's spring training.

[Chief]

Correct. It's also spring training. He goes with his friends every year, and she invited him to come meet her parents, but he was like, oh, sorry, I go with my buddies to spring training every year. To which she says, like, oh, they let you train with the players? He's like, well, no, we just watch the games. Okay, so. So you play this scene, and the

[Rianne Fran]

dad has just dyed his hair jet.

[Chief]

Or I'll just. I'll just take it. Okay. So he's about to say, like.

[Rianne Fran]

I was gonna say we have to have, like, five seconds.

[Chief]

He says, like, when are we going to meet this future breakup? She says, oh, thanks, dad. Very encouraging. He says, well, I figured you would have brought him with you. She says, well, I was going to, but he has this thing and he goes with his friends every year. To which point the camera turns to the television and Jimmy Fallon and his friends are on TV going crazy on Sports Center. Where would you rank the Red Sox in your life? Jimmy Fallon says, red Sox. Sex, breathing. So you get the point.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

We could do. I may need to do that for the. I don't know if we can get away with that with copyright, but I could do that for the whole movie.

[Big T]

That's insane.

[Jersey Jerry]

That'd be. That'd be a really cool video to put out.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Yeah. I think it'd be fun. I can't believe I've never thought to do that as a niche on the dozen.

[Big T]

You should do, like, an alternate one just about the falls.

[Chief]

We'll see. That I did. I've done a couple Tennessee ones. And I just. I get so nervous that he's going to do something so crazy, like, niche.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

That I won't.

[Big T]

And then.

[Chief]

Because you can't get that wrong.

[Big T]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chief]

I did Tennessee basketball once.

[Big T]

No, I mean, like, do a screenplay version of this with you at the Vols.

[Chief]

Oh, remake the movie.

[Big T]

Yeah. Like, do a skit in the green. Green screen room.

[Jersey Jerry]

Oh.

[Big T]

Could this vintage store be any cuter?

[Chief]

Right.

[Rianne Fran]

And the best part, they accept Discover.

[Chief]

Except Discover in a little place like this.

[Big T]

I don't think so, Jennifer. Oh, yeah. Huh.

[Rianne Fran]

Discover is accepted where I like to shop.

[Jersey Jerry]

Come on, baby. Get with the times.

[Chief]

Right.

[Big T]

So we shouldn't get the parachute pants.

[Chief]

These are making a comeback I think

[Jersey Jerry]

Discover is accepted at 99% of places

[Big T]

that take credit cards nationwide, based on the February 2025 Nielsen report.

[Rianne Fran]

I mean, didn't you do one one time where it was like, Tennessee Volunteer football, whatever time Aryan was there? Or like, that time of year?

[Chief]

Like that decade as a niche?

[Rianne Fran]

Yeah. I don't remember my former teammate.

[Chief]

Yeah. I don't recall, but. But yeah, that's one of my favorite films.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Jersey Jerry]

I gotta watch it.

[Chief]

You should.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. Never seen it.

[Chief]

It's a great rom com.

[Big T]

It is a rom com.

[Jersey Jerry]

What's a rom com?

[Chief]

Romantic comedy.

[Jersey Jerry]

Romantic comedy. Okay, gotcha.

[Chief]

You've never.

[Jersey Jerry]

I'm not a big movie guy.

[Chief]

Really?

[Jersey Jerry]

No. Just like, if I do watch movie, it's like. Like a war movie.

[Chief]

Okay.

[Jersey Jerry]

That's about it as far as I go.

[Chief]

I watched the same 20 or so movies.

[Jersey Jerry]

Mm.

[Chief]

I've currently in my. My Vols group chat, which is mostly guys in their 30s and 40s. They're very upset with me that I haven't seen a lot of their favorite movies from the 80s and 90s.

[Jersey Jerry]

Okay.

[Chief]

And I just don't. I just don't really want to watch them.

[Big T]

I have a hard time, like, there. I haven't been to the movies in a couple of years, and then it's like the Oscars come around, and it's like, you see all these.

[Jersey Jerry]

Mike.

[Big T]

I haven't seen any of these, but

[Chief]

usually those aren't even movies that you would have seen anyway.

[Big T]

I watched one battle after another on the plane on the way to California for the super bowl, and I thought it was fine. But it's like, you know, like, I feel like I haven't been excited to go see something since, like, Oppenheimer.

[Chief]

Yeah. And even I saw Oppenheimer, and I was. I was excited to see it, and I was. Oh, that was fine.

[Big T]

I had a miserable experience seeing that in the theater.

[Chief]

Really?

[Big T]

Have you guys ever been to Music Box Theater? It's up on Southports, near Wrigley. It's near me.

[Chief]

No, it was near the old office. I've seen it. Yeah.

[Big T]

Like, you could walk. It'd be a little bit of a hike, but you could walk there from the old office. But it's. It's over a hundred years old. It has, like, a ton of charm. They do things like. Like in the winter, they'll do, like, It's a Wonderful Life and what's a White Christmas? And they'll do, like, a double feature, and they'll bring in, like, carolers. Great little date night in the Holiday season. But I went to see it. I went to see Oppenheimer there, and they were doing it on some special film or something. 30. I don't know. I don't know enough about movies, but. And they had, like, a scientist guy speaking after to, like, answer questions about the whole project. And I was like, this is sick. Like, I'm gonna go and. And the theater was like. It was in the summer. I'd never been in the summer. Hot as balls. Like. And then your seats were like. Because it's so old, like, small and uncomfortable. So I'm just sitting on my balls. Like, sweaty, uncomfortable, backs locking up. It was miserable. I couldn't get out of there fast enough. So I'm like, that movie absolutely sucked. And then I watch it on, like, Amazon Prime. Like, that was pretty good. Yeah. All right, so. But that was the last time I was excited to see a movie was Oppenheimer.

[Chief]

That was, what, 22, 23.

[Big T]

22, 23.

[Chief]

Something like that.

[Jersey Jerry]

Jeff D. Lowe put me on the. You could actually order from the movie theater the popcorn to your house.

[Big T]

Really?

[Chief]

He would do that in New York. We would go into the office every college football Saturday, and Jeff Lowe would stop by the movie theater because he had the unlimited pass.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

He would get a popcorn and come to the office.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Chief]

And then we would also have. He loves these. What are they called? It's like a shitty. It's a graham cracker. Marshmallow chocolate, which I guess I'm describing a s', more, but it sure are. But it's. It's like a prepackaged thing, and it's. What are they called? I'm gonna have to call him. He's like, marshmallows Mallow Mars. That's. Do y' all know what I'm talking about?

[Big T]

I feel like I've heard of it. I don't think I've ever heard of it.

[Rianne Fran]

I believe it is yellow packaging.

[Chief]

Yeah. So Jeff would bring Malamars, and we'd

[Big T]

eat those all day and just watch College.

[Rianne Fran]

I like those, you know?

[Chief]

Yeah, they're good. But it's like. It's. It's not. It wouldn't be my first choice.

[Rianne Fran]

It's. It's a grandma.

[Chief]

Grandma house that just spawns. Like, nobody's ever bought them.

[Rianne Fran]

She bought them in.

[Chief]

They just appear like those strawberry candy.

[Big T]

Yeah, you can have that. Or Andes candies. A little mint chocolate.

[Chief]

Now, I love the Andes mints.

[Big T]

I like those as well. But that. I associate that with old people.

[Chief]

I just ran out of my Christmas Stash.

[Big T]

It's gonna be a long 10 months.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Might need to get some for Easter.

[Big T]

Okay. There you go.

[Chief]

But. But, yeah. So Fever Pitch. Great film. Do y' all want to talk about Mexican drug cartels? Kind of a hard pivot.

[Big T]

Yeah, big time, but, you know, big time.

[Chief]

Yeah, that's what we do here.

[Jersey Jerry]

Honestly, I got a little nervous yesterday when Eric texted me, hey, Jerry, we're doing cartel talk on, you know, macrodosing. I won't be in. Can you join? My gut reaction was, I'm nervous.

[Chief]

Why is that? You don't want to piss him off.

[Jersey Jerry]

I don't want to piss him off. That's the thing. Yeah, I don't wanna.

[Chief]

I'll piss him off. I don't care.

[Jersey Jerry]

Oh, no.

[Chief]

Come get me.

[Jersey Jerry]

He. Don't say. Don't say that. Don't say that.

[Chief]

They're in Mexico, dude.

[Big T]

They got tentacles everywhere.

[Jersey Jerry]

They're here, too. What do you mean?

[Chief]

Yeah, I mean, they're in Texas and Arizona and stuff.

[Big T]

You don't think.

[Jersey Jerry]

I guarantee you there's a cartel in.

[Chief]

In Chicago, right, that's connected to the Mexican 100%.

[Jersey Jerry]

Big T. Come on.

[Chief]

What are they gonna do?

[Big T]

They consolidate.

[Jersey Jerry]

They're gonna murder you. What do you mean? What are they.

[Chief]

What Murder?

[Jersey Jerry]

What are you talking about? These guys got guns.

[Big T]

Guy around. But that, like, we've done, obviously, we've been doing.

[Jersey Jerry]

We do, too.

[Chief]

That's no problem. That's no problem there.

[Jersey Jerry]

We do, too.

[Big T]

But we. We've talked about cartels on Dog Walk before and our shorts on the different cartels. We have one that has 9.2 million views, another one has 6.7 million. And it's all just like. I don't know why, but it's just like, for whatever reasons those hit the algorithm. So I think, don't be afraid. This is going to be good.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, well, because they watch and they send to their boys.

[Big T]

That's why they got 9.2 million boys out there.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Chief]

So obviously, we just had the. The big hit on El Mencho, who was the leader of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel.

[Big T]

Does that just mean the mensch? Like, this guy's a mensch? Is it like. It's like the Jewish word for a guy?

[Chief]

What does El Mencho mean? Just as the alias of Nemesio Asaguera Cervantes, the former leader. It doesn't say what it means.

[Jersey Jerry]

What was the deal with that guy? He got. Did he get like.

[Chief]

Oh, it's a shortened colloquial version of Nemesio which is his, what's his last name?

[Jersey Jerry]

What would happen? Something to do with like another woman or something like that.

[Chief]

Yeah, his, his lover led the, the police to him. They like tracked her and he was living in some cabin in the woods or something. And they followed her and got there and took him out.

[Big T]

Yeah, they waited for her to leave.

[Chief]

These cartels, like I looked a little bit into these people are like unimaginably evil.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Like, they do stuff that I've never heard of.

[Big T]

This guy had like crematoriums on his complex and they were just like. Yeah, we found this big crematorium and like hundreds of pairs of shoes. So they just kill you and then burn you up and then throw the shoes in the dumpster.

[Chief]

And they've got rocket launchers, they've got everything.

[Big T]

A lot of American weapons.

[Chief]

Yeah, I think it said 80% of the guns they found there since 2020 or something are all American. Which.

[Jersey Jerry]

How they getting it?

[Chief]

I kind of assume, I would have guessed that. Is that.

[Big T]

See, I don't know. I feel like you would assume that they're black market weaponry that you would just get like, like with the war dogs thing where it's like, oh, they're going. They got a shipment from fucking Albania where they're getting all their rounds and, and their actual.

[Chief]

But aren't most guns American? I mean, I guess it like, like Glock is technically, what, Austrian or whatever,

[Big T]

but they manufacture Italian. Like AKs are obviously Russian and they make them in China.

[Chief]

But I would assume all of the guns in Mexico came from America.

[Big T]

Uzis are Israeli, I think, originally. So I think there's a lot of people making weapons of war out there.

[Chief]

I just, I would have assumed.

[Big T]

But then that. But to your point, how they getting them?

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, and it's like, are we giving it to them?

[Big T]

No, I wouldn't be surprised. It's happened many. Like the whole government, you think? Yes. Yeah. That's like Iran Contra is like drugs and weapons tradings.

[Chief]

Yeah. But we, we don't like these guys though.

[Big T]

What was the thing that happened under Obama?

[Jersey Jerry]

Big money.

[Chief]

I think the. Yes, I know what you're talking about. It was called.

[Big T]

It had like a flashy.

[Chief]

It had a name. Obama Weapons. Mexico atf Gun walking scandal. It had a name though.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Fast and Furious.

[Big T]

Yes. Yes.

[Chief]

Yeah. Who were we given? The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms set to destroy firearms associated with the Obama era Fast and Furious scandal sparking rebuke from top Republicans of the House Judiciary Committee. Yeah. Who were we giving them to

[Big T]

it would appear the cartels.

[Rianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Gun walking was a tactic used by Arizona U.S. attorney's office and the Arizona field office of the ATF, which ran a series of sting operations between 2006 and 2011 in the Tucson and Phoenix area where the ATF, quote, purposefully allowed licensed firearm dealers to sell weapons to illegal straw buyers, hoping to track the guns to Mexican drug cartel leaders and arrest them. Okay, so we let people sell them to the cartel, hoping to track them, and then I guess we just didn't follow up.

[Big T]

You know what might have been a better version of that. Just don't do that.

[Chief]

Just don't.

[Big T]

Just don't sell them. Make them go get it somewhere else.

[Jersey Jerry]

Then they maybe realize like, oh, wow, there's a lot of money in this, and then just continue to do it.

[Big T]

That's like the old, the ice cube line where he was given like a press conference and someone was talking to him about, you know, like how LA was so violent and the drugs and all that. And he's like, well, the drugs come from Colombia and the weapons come from Russia and I don't have a passport. So you fucking explain how they all end up in the neighborhood. So it's like somebody, you know, like there is just like a black market to get people what they want. And it's like at some point the government has to at least be complicit or look the other way on that.

[Chief]

Yeah, that does make a modicum of sense though. At least what they were trying to do. If it was done properly, which it obviously was not correct.

[Big T]

But it's like, what's the point? You're gonna. How are you tracking the guns? You're better off just not letting them get them. Because if you're tracking, I guess the

[Chief]

thinking is they're going to get them

[Big T]

regardless, so we might as well make some money off of it and try to. Well, I think the thinking was. But like, how many people, how many people are you allowing to get murdered? Yeah, because you're trying to track them to bust them later, you know, like, that's fucking insane to me. I just, I think make them.

[Chief]

Get them from Russia getting murdered anyway.

[Big T]

Make them get it. Yeah, but make them. But that. That to me is not enough of an excuse or enough of a reason. These people are going to die anyways. They might as well die at the American Made Guns fair.

[Chief]

Yeah, so we took out El Mincho. Oh, the other thing, I saw a video. You've seen everything coming out of Puerto Vallarta and there was A SWAT truck with probably a dozen guys in it who were dressed to the hilt. And you would have thought These were Navy SEALs.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

And they just work for the cartel.

[Jersey Jerry]

Mm.

[Chief]

Like, what do you think?

[Big T]

Well, I saw the one. They lit the gas station on fire. They come out and they have, like, semiautomatic rifles, bulletproof vests, like, the helmet, the whole thing. You think it's the military. And then they just take the gas away from a guy who's just casually pumping his gas, throw it all over you, spray it all over the ground, lay it on fire. Boom, the gas station goes up.

[Jersey Jerry]

That's crazy.

[Big T]

So. But that was. Those were the cartels, and it was the Mexican army that actually killed the Mexican government. That killed El Mencho, too.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Big T]

So it was like the first.

[Jersey Jerry]

This guy's dead. El mentioned.

[Big T]

Yeah, they got him.

[Chief]

Yeah. That's why everything's popping off in Mexico right now, because they just took him out.

[Jersey Jerry]

And he was, like, their fearless leader.

[Chief]

He was the leader of one of the two. The Sinaloa cartel is the other one. I think they're probably the more famous one.

[Big T]

Well, and that. Because that was El Chapo, right? Who? Like, in the article that you sent or one of the articles, they're like, el Chapo, like, loved being El Chapo. He loved, like, sweet nickname. People knew who he was. He was kind of like a name, like, everyone would just talk about. And this guy was just like, I'm going to have all that without the publicity.

[Chief]

So he was this guy. Seems like kind of the. The thinking that the real stuff going on, you'll never know about.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

El Chapo obviously was doing a bunch of terrible shit. But if you know who El Chapo is, this guy, nobody knew. He lurked in the shadows, and he was doing the real stuff.

[Big T]

But El Chapo, he was like, the kingpin. And, like, they did the thing where. I can't remember where it was. It was probably in Mexico. But he got arrested somehow. Like, his cartel, like, tunneled underneath the jail, stashed a dirt bike. So then he. He, like, escaped from jail on a dirt bike that was buried underground. It's like fucking.

[Chief]

They had a camera in his. So he just drops right out of the.

[Jersey Jerry]

I gotta look at that video. Wow.

[Big T]

Sick.

[Chief]

And then it would make for a great.

[Jersey Jerry]

Now, is he in New York?

[Big T]

No, he's in. He might be in 11. He's in, like, the supermax prison.

[Chief]

I thought we killed him, too.

[Big T]

No, no, he's not dead. El Chapo is in adx.

[Chief]

Florence.

[Big T]

Florence. Colorado.

[Chief]

That's the. We did an episode on that. Yeah, that's the. The big boy jail.

[Big T]

Right.

[Chief]

I'd kind of love to go. Just.

[Big T]

I think. I think it's like, that's the place where it's like 23 hours a day of solitary confinement.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

And like, you. You can't go outside, like, Right.

[Rianne Fran]

The window is like, yay big.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

Like, thin.

[Chief]

Wow. Anyone ever been to a jail?

[Jersey Jerry]

I've been to a jail.

[Chief]

Like, as a visiting or.

[Jersey Jerry]

No, as a.

[Rianne Fran]

A tour.

[Chief]

Oh, you were taken.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chief]

Well, then your experience was probably clouded.

[Jersey Jerry]

I mean, it's not a good place.

[Chief]

Yeah, I just like to go tour one for an hour.

[Big T]

I went to Alcatraz.

[Chief]

Yeah, that'd be a cool tour.

[Big T]

It was cool. So they give you, like, little headphones and you just walk around. It's like an audiobook as you're walking through. Like, oh, this is where Capone was. This is where the great escape was. Yeah, it was cool.

[Chief]

Did it seem extra bad or.

[Big T]

It seemed. Seemed like a place I wouldn't want to spend much time.

[Chief]

Sure. But it was supposed to be.

[Big T]

I think the thing about Alcatraz was that it was famous because Capone was there. Like, high profile criminals were there. It was an island off of San Francisco with like, supposedly, like, you can escape because the currents are so intense, the water so cold. They have sharks in those water. So it's like you want. If you can get out of your cell and get into the ocean, you're dead. Most likely.

[Chief]

Except for the three guys who did.

[Big T]

Except for the three guys who definitely did. Yeah. They made a movie about it.

[Chief]

We did an episode on that.

[Big T]

Yeah. Tunneled out with, like spoons or something. Right? Is that the story?

[Chief]

Oh, really?

[Big T]

I think so.

[Chief]

Andy Dufresne.

[Big T]

Does he do it with a spoon?

[Chief]

He got the little. The pickaxe.

[Big T]

Pickaxe, yeah. Which is, I think is a better tool than.

[Chief]

Sure. You've seen that movie, Jerry?

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Great movie.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Great movie.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

Morgan Freeman, right?

[Big T]

Yep. You ever been, you know, jail for you?

[Chief]

No. Jail.

[Big T]

Never arrested, handcuffed, anything.

[Chief]

You know who you're talking to? I'm just wondering. No.

[Big T]

Okay. I mean, I've been handcuffed.

[Chief]

Really?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

For what?

[Big T]

I was a freshman in college and fight broke out and I was involved in the fight.

[Chief]

And they cuffed you.

[Big T]

Cuffed me.

[Chief]

But didn't take you anywhere?

[Big T]

No.

[Chief]

You were detained?

[Big T]

I was detained in an effort to keep the peace. So that was that.

[Chief]

No. Never. Never been to a jail. El Chapo has, though.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

So he's in jail. El Mincho is dead. Those are the two major cartel operations in Mexico. And now the. They are setting up road blockades. They're lighting on fire.

[Big T]

Did you see the clip where, like, the cartels just kind of run everything in Mexico, where one of their roadblocks, they had, like, an excavator, you know, like the big thing with the shovel on the end, the big yellow. Like, not John Deere, but, like, cat machine. And they're just digging up a big. Like, a highway. So they got, like, a trench in the middle of the highway that's like, eight feet deep that the cartels are just like, no one's leaving. Wow. Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

What about people who go for vacation?

[Big T]

Buddy was just there. Got out, like, two days before.

[Chief]

What I had always heard was the. The resorts, you'll never have a problem because they're run by the cartels.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

And they. So they want to make sure everything runs smooth because that's how they make money.

[Jersey Jerry]

Wow.

[Chief]

Yeah. So they were like, don't worry about it. Like, the cartels are. Have deals with the resorts that they make sure everything is.

[Big T]

You're good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I'm looking at this being like, man, like, this time next year, race, probably real cheap for great experience.

[Chief]

Imagine what you could get right now.

[Big T]

Yeah, I know. That's what I mean. You book something right now.

[Chief]

Yeah, look, I went to one in Mexico. I mean, beautiful.

[Big T]

Mexico's great.

[Chief]

Beautiful. It was Cancun, so the other side.

[Big T]

Yeah. I've been to Puerto Vallarta. It was a lot. It was probably 25 years ago, but it was gorgeous. That was the place where they were staying at a resort, and they had these guys on the beach with a boat, and you would go, what's the thing with a parachute? Paragliding. Parasailing.

[Chief]

Parasailing.

[Big T]

Parasailing. And so I was. My family and I, we were next in line to go. The guy in front of us, the cable snapped on the parachute while he was in the air. He just sailed all the way down and crashed into a tree.

[Chief]

Really?

[Big T]

Yeah. And they're like, oh, we got another rope. We're like, we're good. After seeing that, I think we're just gonna go back.

[Chief]

So he didn't fall into the ocean?

[Big T]

No, because, like, you're. He was way up there, and, like. So he just caught, like, the air current or whatever was that. He just. He did not fall. He drifted, like, four miles into town.

[Chief]

Yeah. I never saw him later that night.

[Big T]

It Was all, like, scraped up from, like, hitting a palm tree or something.

[Chief]

That's insane. Yeah, I've never. I did, like, a. I've done jet ski. I don't. I don't do the water.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

I'm not a water guy.

[Big T]

I like the water. I get like, I can't.

[Jersey Jerry]

We.

[Big T]

I think we talked about this. Like, I can't do. I get bored at the beach.

[Jersey Jerry]

These flights are cheap.

[Big T]

Yeah. How much?

[Jersey Jerry]

200 to Puerto Vallarta. I mean, 200. You name it. In Mexico, everything's 200 right now. Cancun, playa del Carmen, 200.

[Chief]

Because see if you can go to Cancun right now.

[Jersey Jerry]

Virtual Vallarta.

[Big T]

Yeah, Vallarta, 200. Love that round trip.

[Chief]

On what airline they gotta click. You're not looking at, like, Spirit.

[Jersey Jerry]

I don't know.

[Big T]

Like.

[Jersey Jerry]

I mean, it just popped up on, like, Google. I don't know what the airline it is, man. This is. This is nothing. Damn. Maybe it is Spirit.

[Chief]

Yeah, it could be Spirit. It's probably the cheap.

[Big T]

I'm seeing 560.

[Jersey Jerry]

What about this? $60 a night. Where? Puerto Vallarta.

[Chief]

What hotel?

[Jersey Jerry]

Hotel Hacienda del Varda, Jerry.

[Chief]

I don't know. Central sounds nice.

[Big T]

Sounds exotic. There's.

[Chief]

Get on this, like, today, but it could.

[Jersey Jerry]

Look at this. 60 a night for that.

[Big T]

Gorgeous.

[Chief]

It could be a pretty funny video if you and I went to Puerto Vallarta right now and we just checked into a resort. Like.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I mean, listen, I think old boys trip.

[Jersey Jerry]

What are you doing Saturday?

[Chief]

I. I have to go to a wedding this weekend, actually.

[Jersey Jerry]

But next week, maybe we go Friday? Saturday.

[Chief]

I. I think it'd be. Could be fun.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

Just having a couple nice lunches and dinners together. Hang out, make a couple social videos and just head back.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

It's not gonna cost us nothing.

[Chief]

No. Expensive.

[Big T]

Still charge it to Dave and be like, we're doing you a favor.

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Chief]

I mean, this is. This is.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, we could make money from this. We can tell the hotel or whatever, we. Wherever we're staying, we're gonna push having the Americans come here now.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

See how beautiful and peaceful it is?

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

And then maybe they'd like, hey, here's 20K.

[Chief]

And maybe we could. You think we could hook it up like an interview with one of the cartel guys? Be like, listen, we're.

[Jersey Jerry]

We're. I'm out on that.

[Big T]

No, the. The. If you guys did a video where it's like, the black. Like, the face is pixelated out, they change the voice and you're just sitting across from that would be so funny.

[Jersey Jerry]

That would be pretty crazy. Yeah, I think they would agree. Would you, Would you think?

[Chief]

I don't know. We have to find out.

[Jersey Jerry]

We'd have to find a guy that's like connected, that's not like part of the cartel, but knows people in the cartel to be like, hey, look at all these followers on Barstool sports right across all platforms. We'll block out the face, we'll change the voice. Let's do a one on one interview.

[Big T]

I think you get there and you just go to the concierge because ultimately whoever is managing that hotel, they're in the cartel. So I don't think it would be that hard.

[Jersey Jerry]

Okay.

[Chief]

Yeah, I think it could do nothing.

[Jersey Jerry]

We should make a call right now to say, hey, we're with this company, Barcelona Sports. We've have, we have millions and millions of followers. We want to take a vacation to your hotel, but we want to get set up with a one on one interview with somebody from the cartel and

[Big T]

we want it to be a five star resort.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, we want a five star resort.

[Chief]

Well, obviously you think they would be

[Jersey Jerry]

like, yeah, no problem. We'll get you a cartel member.

[Chief]

I mean, you want to find out what's the best, what's the best resort?

[Jersey Jerry]

I don't know.

[Chief]

Best resort. Puerta Vallarta.

[Big T]

It auto filled for me.

[Chief]

You want to call them?

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, why not? See what they say.

[Chief]

All right, here's the phone number. You ready?

[Jersey Jerry]

Yep.

[Big T]

Puerto Vallarta. Oh, this was beautiful.

[Jersey Jerry]

Hey, no no hable espanol. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. Hey, my name is, my name is Ricky with barstool Sports. You guys are on a pre recorded line. We have millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of followers across all social media. We're a massive, massive company. We're a content creation company, a media company. We're interested in, you know, staying at, you know, your place of business. We love, we love what we see online. Willing to pay for the stay. Obviously we want to film, we, we want to film a little content around your facility. At the same time, we're also doing a documentary about the Mexican cartel. And you know, we were, we were interested in coming, staying, you know, spending a good amount of money down there and possibly having the opportunity to interview a cartel member. Doesn't have to be on site. You know, one on one will block out the face, will block out, you know, change the voice. Is it possible if we do head down there that we'll have Some resources to get in touch with somebody.

[Chief]

Just give me one second, okay.

[Jersey Jerry]

Okay. I mean, this guy,

[Chief]

the fact that he didn't immediately say no.

[Big T]

Yeah, I don't like that you volunteered paying for it, though.

[Jersey Jerry]

Well, that's how you get.

[Chief]

We might have.

[Jersey Jerry]

That's how you get.

[Chief]

I mean, Jerry might have. Us becoming cartel people, like, they're not so bad.

[Big T]

They're misunderstood.

[Chief]

What do you think he's telling.

[Jersey Jerry]

I think he's going to the cartel right now.

[Chief]

Say that again.

[Jersey Jerry]

Sir, are you broke up a little bit?

[Chief]

Yes. Your name. Can you.

[Jersey Jerry]

My name is Ricky with barstool sports. Ricky. Ricky. Yes, Ricky, sir. Y. I think. I think we're going to be speaking to the cartel very shortly.

[Chief]

Yeah. Seriously, this hotel is beautiful. I can't believe this guy's actually going to someone.

[Big T]

He's probably, like. He's probably two minutes away. He's probably staying at the honeymoon suit there.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Big T]

What?

[Jersey Jerry]

I think we're gonna get a no.

[Chief]

What happens if he says yes?

[Jersey Jerry]

We book. We just book it. Hello. How you doing today? Fine, thank you. Just give me one second, please. Okay.

[Big T]

Yeah, tell her she's recorded, too.

[Jersey Jerry]

She's the. Yeah, she.

[Chief]

She. This is too real. I don't.

[Jersey Jerry]

She's the underboss.

[Chief]

I want out.

[Big T]

No, we already. We already got up a level.

[Jersey Jerry]

Michael. Workers right now in a meeting. Okay. And can you send the information? Okay, okay, okay.

[Big T]

I'll.

[Jersey Jerry]

I'll. Yeah, it's. It's okay. It's okay. I'm gonna call back at it. What's a better time to call back? I don't know exactly right now on this situation. There. Have a lot of meetings right now. Okay. Okay. The email address. So you can send the information. Yeah, we'll. We'll take the email. Yeah. By the way, you're. I forgot I told you the previous person I spoke to just, you know, you're live to tape right now on a recorded line. Okay, thank you. Okay, let me give it to the name of the person that I'm gonna give you right now. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. You have a great day. Thank you, sir. You too.

[Chief]

We just. Did we just talk to the cartel.

[Big T]

We talked to the person who's going to talk to the cartel.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, I think the first guy was working. Yeah, I think the lady there, she knows. She knows. She knows people.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

This lady's not running social media.

[Chief]

Do you think he heard when we said.

[Jersey Jerry]

No?

[Big T]

They definitely heard cartel 100%.

[Chief]

The first guy did. Yeah, but then he.

[Big T]

Well, we didn't mention it. So we look at. We're making progress on this.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Chief]

That got a little too real for a second.

[Big T]

This is real journalism.

[Chief]

T also, why. Why say Ricky, but then give him the real company?

[Big T]

Because it was my alias, has been

[Jersey Jerry]

Ricky for a long time.

[Chief]

I don't know where we go from there. No.

[Rianne Fran]

I think cartel members listening to this.

[Chief]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big T]

You don't know if you want to. Come on, pull the data, see how many people in Mexico listen to this show.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I bet you it's not zero.

[Chief]

No. We've had several countries.

[Big T]

Yeah, See?

[Chief]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

What was the craziest one?

[Chief]

You'd think there were some in, like, Eastern Europe, I'm sure Americans that live over there. Or maybe not.

[Big T]

Maybe not.

[Chief]

Yeah, I don't remember exactly because y' all said they didn't do it this past year, but that we. We had a few.

[Jersey Jerry]

I think that'd be a great interview.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

I mean, this could be Electric trick.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I think if you get, like.

[Chief]

If they say, we got it set up, are you going, buddy?

[Jersey Jerry]

We're going.

[Chief]

Well, that was my next question.

[Big T]

The passport ready?

[Chief]

Yeah, I've got it.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. You know what? Like, I don't like, this is all like, we're gonna tell them, hey, we're like a social media company. It's not like they're gonna be like, yeah, we're just gonna murder these two guys.

[Big T]

Of course not. That'd be horrible for business.

[Chief]

Make headlines, though.

[Big T]

It would be horrible for business.

[Jersey Jerry]

Horrible for their business. It would bury their business.

[Chief]

Okay, all right. I mean, yeah, we'll think about the rent.

[Jersey Jerry]

Dave would go on after that.

[Chief]

Yeah. But, I mean, hell of a lot of good that does me if I'm dead.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Dave would probably be like, if you're dead. He'd be like, what a trade. Get all the clicks.

[Chief]

Dave would. Dave would be like, I mean, this is terrible, but it's good content.

[Big T]

Yeah, exactly.

[Chief]

So our deaths would be reduced to content.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'd go out swinging, though.

[Big T]

I think you're fine. I really think.

[Jersey Jerry]

I really do. I came into this episode a little worried. I am not worried at all.

[Big T]

Right. They need all the good PR they can get.

[Jersey Jerry]

It's not like we're trying to go there and trash them. No, we just want to hear their side.

[Big T]

While staying at a five star resort. Exactly.

[Chief]

The hotel does look great.

[Big T]

Does you seen this hotel, Jerry?

[Jersey Jerry]

I haven't seen.

[Chief]

It's. It's good stuff.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. How much? They were looking for a night.

[Chief]

I think it was like 600.

[Jersey Jerry]

No, that's not bad.

[Big T]

I mean, look at this.

[Jersey Jerry]

Oh, wow.

[Big T]

Right on the water.

[Jersey Jerry]

Oh, that's gorgeous.

[Big T]

I love when they have the chairs that, like, dip into the pool.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, I love that.

[Chief]

Yeah, I love those.

[Jersey Jerry]

That's gorgeous. Wow.

[Chief]

Love a good straw hut as well.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. Columbia.

[Big T]

Oh, maybe you guys should do your interview with the cartel guy while getting massages on the beach. A little couple's massage action.

[Jersey Jerry]

How many views do you think we get on that video?

[Big T]

Millions.

[Chief]

A lot.

[Big T]

A lot.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Like, more than we've ever gotten on anything.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, that'd be sick.

[Chief]

Would obviously have to go on the macro YouTube, since that's where it was inspired.

[Jersey Jerry]

Of course.

[Chief]

I mean, it could. It could be electric.

[Jersey Jerry]

Honestly, I. I think we're all down. I think Eric is going to be so down for that.

[Chief]

You think?

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

[Chief]

Yeah, I guess we'll find out.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Big T]

You think Arian would go?

[Jersey Jerry]

No, I don't think so.

[Chief]

I think he would say he would, and then we'd. We'd be booking stuff and he'd be like, I'm not actually doing that.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Jersey Jerry]

There's a chance the cartel pays us for this interview. But the way.

[Big T]

Would you take that money?

[Chief]

Yes.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

You take that money. You got to take that.

[Chief]

As long as I'm allowed to by the United States.

[Jersey Jerry]

Like, if we tell them, like, hey, look at this platform you're about to be put on. You're gonna get millions and millions of views, dude.

[Chief]

The problem is it can't be too much. I. I'd take five.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah, I'd probably take five, too.

[Jersey Jerry]

But I think we get a lot more than that.

[Chief]

But if you get a lot more, don't get caught with cash around. Around any law enforcement in the United States because you are guilty until proven innocent.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, it's good point.

[Chief]

Do you know if you get stopped, like a traffic stop, whatever, and you have cash, they can just take it and you have to prove that the cash was not illegally obtained.

[Jersey Jerry]

Oh, yeah.

[Big T]

That feels like a violation of my rights.

[Chief]

It is. There. There have been guys who were, like, going to buy a car, and they have 20 grand in cash and they get pulled over for speeding, whatever. And the cop says, what is that? He's, oh, I'm going to buy a car. Well, I think it's drug money. They take it, and then you have to prove that the cash was legal to get it back.

[Big T]

I don't like that. Bad business.

[Jersey Jerry]

Really bad business.

[Big T]

I. I think this is a good idea. And I Think that we can just.

[Chief]

I think have them.

[Big T]

Have them wire it.

[Chief]

I think it's great content. I don't know that it's a good idea.

[Big T]

Aren't those synonymous with each other?

[Chief]

Good content and bad ideas.

[Big T]

Good content makes it a good idea.

[Chief]

There's an argument to be made for that for sure.

[Jersey Jerry]

What are the chances of being murdered? You'd say

[Big T]

murdered, like on purpose or if something shit just goes down and you're there at the wrong time.

[Jersey Jerry]

I think the interview goes south.

[Chief]

I'd say in total 15%.

[Big T]

No way. It's not that high. 15% of a murder? Yeah, I'd say like one in a

[Chief]

thousand point one percent. You go into interview the Holisko. What are they called?

[Jersey Jerry]

How many interviews are they doing?

[Chief]

Whatever. Whatever cartel. None that I've seen. You think you're going to interview one of the head honchos of the cartel and your odds of being killed are one in a thousand?

[Big T]

Yes. First of all, I don't think we're getting the head honcho.

[Chief]

Well, no, no, definitely not. But if you're getting their PR guy or whoever that's somebody high up in the structure.

[Big T]

No doubt. I think that the guy who agrees to do the interview, his odds of getting murdered are very high. But.

[Chief]

But. So you think the cartel would be unhappy with us?

[Big T]

Yeah, but I. I do. Cherry's untouchable.

[Chief]

Nobody's untouchable in Mexico.

[Big T]

Come on. No, look, it's a. It's a business trip. You're there, get a couple massages, couple daiquiris, a couple of cartel interviews.

[Chief]

Love a good daiquiri. I went too hard on the daiquiris at Christmas 24 when I was in.

[Jersey Jerry]

I think we start the interview off with gifts for them.

[Chief]

Yes. You know what? What do you bring the cartel that has everything?

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, what do you bring the cartel that has everything? Everything. H. What's a good gift? A good gift? Something American.

[Chief]

This was. This was off the deck.

[Big T]

Oh, wow.

[Jersey Jerry]

That's a good pick.

[Chief]

Yeah. You like that?

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, it's a good pick. I don't know, you give them something American, maybe some chocolates. Some American chocolates or something like that.

[Big T]

Come down with like a bunch of Reese's.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, Reese's. Do they have Reese's in Mexico?

[Chief]

I'm sure they do. They had KitKat in. In our room.

[Big T]

Okay. Yeah, we can brainstorm on that.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chief]

You know, I don't like. I don't like that this has become a genuinely viable option. I thought we were just messing around, having fun with the guys.

[Big T]

We haven't gotten a.

[Chief]

No.

[Big T]

Yeah, I know you love Mexico.

[Chief]

I had a great time.

[Jersey Jerry]

I never been.

[Big T]

Oh, you gotta check that box, dude.

[Jersey Jerry]

Gotta go.

[Chief]

I guess we'll see. It's. Are you coming? You were part of that.

[Big T]

I would love to come.

[Chief]

Yeah. Okay.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

The only worry would be the interview going south.

[Chief]

Right. I. I'm generally not down to do pre approved questions. I do pre approved.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. You got to do pre approved.

[Big T]

Explain, like, why we got it all wrong. Yeah.

[Chief]

Like, we've had a couple guests whose. Whose people have tried to steer interviews in a certain direction, and I was. T doesn't do that. Okay. T shoots from the hip.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Chief]

So if you're not there. Right. For the cartel, I would be willing to do pre approved.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chief]

Oh, that's. Whatever you want.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

Tell us about all the.

[Big T]

How's your avocado farm?

[Chief]

Right. Tell us about all the. The goodwill you're doing in the community.

[Big T]

Yeah. How big was avocado toast for you guys 10 years ago?

[Chief]

That really had a moment.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chief]

I feel like it's died down.

[Big T]

It has. Still good, though. Do you know that Jerry, like, all

[Chief]

these people,

[Big T]

like, the cartels kind of like, took over slash, like, merge with avocado farmers.

[Jersey Jerry]

I did not know that.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

Wow.

[Big T]

So they're using their land and then it's just like. It's another way to get drugs in. Oh, we just got a big crate of. Big truckload of avocados. Yeah.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Chief]

I feel like avocado toast has been replaced with matcha.

[Big T]

I've actually never had a matcha.

[Chief]

Me neither.

[Big T]

Yeah. I'm interested. Caleb Williams put me on White Sox. Dave oddly loves him a matcha.

[Chief]

Really?

[Big T]

Did you guys happen to see his

[Chief]

Instagram posts from Turkey?

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, that was a little. That was all over the place.

[Chief]

It was quite.

[Big T]

He's taking, like, hot guy mirror selfies. Yeah. Yeah. I was shocked to see that.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, that was. That was an interesting post.

[Big T]

Yeah. And I was like, what's the deal with it? He goes, I don't know. I thought it looked hot.

[Jersey Jerry]

He looked good.

[Big T]

Yeah, he does. He looked good.

[Chief]

All right. Well, I mean, I. I don't think there's anywhere we can take it. After potentially setting up a meeting with

[Big T]

the cartel, the Puerto Vallarta.

[Chief]

It seems that way. I don't know, man. I've got to film this Fever Pitch video first, and then we can talk about the car.

[Big T]

That could be your legacy.

[Chief]

Yeah. All right. Well, I mean, spring breaks coming up too.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah, we got to get in before spring. Yeah, we got to get him before

[Chief]

y' all ever go on, like, a crazy spring break.

[Big T]

No, I never did. I always had. Always had hockey and stuff.

[Jersey Jerry]

Never, never.

[Chief]

Well, this could be it, I guess.

[Jersey Jerry]

Yeah.

[Chief]

All right. Well, boys, thank you. Thank you to everybody for listening. We. We may be bringing you the next episode from puerto vallarta with members of the the cartel, which could be fun.

[Big T]

Could be fun.

[Jersey Jerry]

Could be fun.

[Chief]

We're just trying to.

[Jersey Jerry]

We're just trying to learn.

[Chief]

Thank you for watching. Goodbye.