The World of Shit Coins & Crypto | Feb 20, 2025

Summary

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Macrodosing Podcast Summary

Episode: The World of Shit Coins & Crypto

Feb 20, 2025

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Episode Overview

On this episode of Macrodosing, the hosts—PFT Commenter, Arian Foster, Big T, Jack Mack, and others—dive deep into the bizarre, chaotic, and unregulated world of "shitcoins" and meme cryptocurrencies. Joined by expert guest Jack Mack, the crew breaks down recent viral scams, how meme coins function on platforms like Solana, the role of community and influencers, and the wild stories behind high-profile crypto stunts involving Donald Trump, Melania, and Argentina's president Milei.

Other segments cover topics from near-Earth asteroids, animal news, animated discussions about airline safety and crashes, to wild internet subcultures—all sprinkled with the podcast’s signature irreverent humor and rapid-fire tangents.

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Table of Contents

1. Crypto & Shitcoins Deep Dive w/ Jack Mack
2. Asteroid Apocalypse Odds (04:07)
3. The Saga of Hurricane, The Decorated Dog (09:37)
4. Viral Animal News: Anglerfish, Whale Mass Strandings (19:49)
5. Parenting, Sports and Discipline (29:56)
6. Disturbing News: Plane Crashes Galore (35:12)
7. Golf, TGL Recap, & Culture (61:21)
8. Kanye West’s Latest Social Media Saga (53:13)
9. Quotes, Highlights & Timestamps

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1. Crypto & Shitcoins Deep Dive w/ Jack Mack

[Starts ~1:12:00]

What are Shitcoins and How Do They Work?

• Jack Mack gives a primer on shitcoins—essentially meme or joke cryptocurrencies, usually with no utility, created and traded on networks like Solana (described as the "crypto casino").
• Anyone can create a coin on platforms such as Pump.Fun; coins are often named after trending memes or news (see: TrumpCoin, MelaniaCoin, HurricaneDogCoin).
• Most participants attempt to "get in early," pump up the price via hype or influencer tweets, then cash out. Latecomers invariably lose money—classic pump-and-dump.

Jack:

"Us five right now could create a coin on this website called Pump Fun and call it macrodosing... We could do it right now during this recording. It’s that easy." (83:25)

“Community” and The Casino Economy

• The idea of “community” is invoked as a selling point, but in practice just means a group hoping not to get left holding the bag.
• Crypto “community takeovers” occur when a developer dumps holdings and the user group tries to keep the coin alive.

Recent Major Scams & Political Entanglements

• TrumpCoin: Launched from Donald Trump’s Twitter, spiked to $50–60 billion market cap, then crashed. Allegations of pre-sale “insider trading” for close associates.
• MelaniaCoin: Promoted similarly but even more obviously centralized—developers (whales) held huge portions, further eroding trust.
• LibraCoin (Argentina): Hayden Davis, operating under an alias, facilitated a meme coin for President Javier Milei intended to "help the Argentinian economy." It turned into scandal, with evidence of selling access to the president and direct profiteering.
• Coffeezilla (YouTuber/crypto scam hunter) grilled Hayden Davis on recorded calls, where he appeared to admit to orchestrating multi-layered pump & dump schemes and possibly crimes.
• The space is so unregulated that most expect zero consequences; crimes are simply "PVP—player versus player."

"Crime is legal on chain. No one’s going to jail. There may be some lawsuits, but with Trump in power right now... why would the SEC go after Hayden Davis? Trump did it himself." –Jack Mack (114:28)

Why Any of This Exists

• Shitcoins, for most, are just gambling; for a select few (often insiders), they’re a lucrative scam.
• The allure is the hope of catching a coin at launch, riding it up 1000x, and then dumping before everyone else does.
• Virtually everyone else loses money; a few “rob the robbers.”

"This is exactly what our society deserves." –Arian Foster (127:35)

Outrageous Coin Examples

• HurricaneDogCoin: Launched after the White House tweeted about a deceased service dog, surged in value, then crashed. Spawned copycats like “JusticeForHurricane.”
• Bonnie Blue Baby Coin (Speculative): Tied to viral influencer scandals.
• Wild speculations: “StreakerCoin,” “SlapCoin,” "Frank the Tank Coin"—raising concerns about coins being used to monetize shocking or even tragic news.

Regulation (or Lack Thereof)

• It’s trivially easy to make a coin and trade it anonymously; attempts at regulation are dismissed by insiders with arguments that “regulators are corrupt too.”
• Legally, coins are generally argued to be ‘digital collectibles’ instead of currency or securities, skirting laws.

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2. Asteroid Apocalypse Odds (04:07)

• Hosts riff on news of a 3.1–3.4% chance of a significant asteroid impact in 2032.
• Casual jokes about how sports plans might be affected, and gallows humor about disaster preparations.

Quote:

"This is one of the last Macrodosing podcasts we'll ever do, because in 2032, it looks like we're going to get blown up by an asteroid." (04:07)

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3. The Saga of Hurricane, The Decorated Dog (09:37)

• Tribute segment for “Hurricane,” the Obamas’ Secret Service dog, described as the most decorated dog in U.S. history.
• Comic banter about the purpose of dog awards and the logistics of canine heroism.

Quote:

"Why the fuck are we giving dogs awards?" –Arian Foster (10:41)
"He probably didn't even know he got a plaque." –Host (12:11)

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4. Viral Animal News: Anglerfish, Whale Mass Strandings (19:49)

• Discussion of a mass whale stranding in Australia (157 whales dead), speculation around causes (navigational issues, sea conditions).
• Viral story about a deep-sea anglerfish surfacing and dying—women on TikTok get emotional, reading poetic meaning into it ("for my last day, I think I will go see the sun.").
• Jokes about what animals the crew would like to eat if given the opportunity.

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5. Parenting, Sports and Discipline (29:56)

• Arian Foster details efforts to bond with his son via anime (watching "Solo Leveling").
• Heartfelt discussion of discipline, father-son relationships, and youth sports.

"It's just about stamina. It's about pushing through really a lot... to break you. Your mind will quit before your body does." –Arian Foster (33:17)

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6. Disturbing News: Plane Crashes Galore (35:12)

• Several recent scary—but mostly non-fatal—plane incidents discussed, including in Toronto and Arizona.
• Harrison Ford’s record as a notoriously accident-prone pilot is analyzed and roasted.
• Extended (and comic) examination of exit-row responsibilities and the psychology behind flying.

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7. Golf, TGL Recap, & Culture (61:21)

• Arian gives a first-hand review of the high-tech TGL indoor golf league; lauds the spectacle, but critiques golf culture as stuffy and drama-resistant.
• Suggests the sport would benefit from more rivalries and open trash talk.

"I think what would really push this over is if they had real... shit talking... because they're so close too. That would be dope." –Arian Foster (62:50)

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8. Kanye West’s Latest Social Media Saga (53:13)

• Brief break to cover Kanye tweeting: “After further reflection, I’ve come to the realization that I’m not a Nazi.”
• Panel jokes about public redemption cycles, Kanye’s unpredictability, and performance art theories.

"People can’t make mistakes." –Big T (53:34)
"There’s a meme, it’s the cycle of Kanye: ‘we’re so back’ and ‘it’s over.’" (58:59)

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9. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Meme Coins & the Solana Casino

• "These are people that make $10 million in five minutes and they say, ‘see ya,’ and then they probably will come back three years later and run the same scheme." –Jack Mack (112:56)
• "If you lose your money in this, you deserve every bit of pain and anguish that comes. I’m sorry, this is hilarious." –Arian Foster (127:36)
• On community: "All the people in the treehouse are robbing people, the people outside are just waiting to rob somebody." –Arian (120:21)

On Regulation

• "It’s trivially easy to make a coin... attempts at regulation are dismissed by insiders with arguments that ‘regulators are corrupt too.’" (102:02)
• "Why is it legal to make your own currency? That, to me, seems like something that should have been written as a law at some point." –Host (115:58)

On Asteroids & Catastrophes

• "The important part: statistically, it’s not going to hit you. Some other poor bastards’ problem." –Host (06:11)

On Virality & Danger

• "What’s to stop people from creating a coin about something really fucked up they’re about to do, and then doing that thing?" –Host (130:31)

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Segment Timestamps

• [01:07] – Crypto “community takeovers;” set-up for shitcoin segment
• [04:07] – Asteroid apocalypse news
• [09:37] – Hurricane the hero dog memorial
• [19:49] – Whale mass stranding & anglerfish viral story
• [29:56] – Arian Foster’s father-son anime/sports segment
• [35:12] – Plane crash discussion, Harrison Ford’s mishaps, flying anxiety
• [53:13] – Kanye West’s ‘not a Nazi’ post, discussion of celebrity cancellation cycles
• [61:21] – Arian reviews TGL golf league, golf culture breakdown
• [72:51] – Jack Mack joins: shitcoin/crypto casino explainer
• [94:02] – The scam machinery behind TrumpCoin, MelaniaCoin, and LibraCoin
• [112:10+ ] – Ethics, regulation, why people keep falling for shitcoins

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Final Thoughts

This episode provides a hilarious but eye-opening look into the modern crypto meta, where financial innovation, influencer hype, and good old-fashioned grifting collide. The hosts and guest Jack Mack lay bare the zero-sum casino logic driving meme coins, showing both the alluring chaos and the fundamental emptiness of most crypto stunts. Elsewhere, Macrodosing’s cast continues to blend absurdly diverse news—from asteroids to anime to canine heroes—always with sharp wit and plenty of memorable one-liners.

Transcript

[Host]

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[Arian Foster]

It's a big day for us here.

[Host]

Let's get it done.

[Jack Mack]

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[Host]

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[Jack Mack]

Eligibility and member terms apply if all of the community decides at the same time. But it's really even hard to rug.

[Host]

Pull because also let's just, let's just reset the table here. None of this stuff actually exists, correct?

[Jack Mack]

Like it only exists on the Internet, right?

[Host]

None of this. None of this. None of these things that we've talked about are real things that you can do anything with besides change them into different forms of currency. Welcome back to Macrodosing. It is Thursday. It's February 20th. Get the crew together and head off to the course in the new 2024 Chevy Traverse with impressive cargo room, three room seating and the first ever Z71 trim Traverse can handle your buddies and their golf bags with ease. Chevrolet together. Let's drive. Welcome back to Macrodosing. It's the 20th of February, it's Thursday and Big T is not coming to my birthday party.

[Big T]

That's not true. I'm going to half of your birthday party.

[Host]

Yeah he now Big T pulled me aside yesterday. He's like just so you know not going to be able to make it to.

[Big T]

No that's not. I was just in cuz I never responded to the RSVP and I didn't know how to respond if I was going to half. Yeah so I just told you like hey I'm not coming to the first half second half. I'll be there.

[Host]

It's a reasonable excuse that he has. Tennessee is playing Basketball.

[Big T]

A very big basket. First of all, I have, like eight things I have to do Saturday morning. Then There's a top 10 basketball game. If we. I. I told you things.

[Arian Foster]

That's a lot of things.

[Big T]

It's probably closer to three. If we were. If we were playing lsu, I'd be there.

[Host]

Yeah, but it's.

[Big T]

It's A and M on the road. Massive game. And you were like, well, it's at a. The. The place has TVs, you know, because I, you know, if you go to a thing, first of all, it's not going to be on the tv. I'm gonna be like, can you put the TV on the Tennessee game? Then. Then people would accost me for not engaging in the. The social aspect because I'd be trying to watch the. It'd be a whole. It'd be a whole thing. It's better for everyone that I sit out the first half and then I come. I come on in the second half.

[Host]

I get it. I get it. You're. Yeah. Impact sub.

[Big T]

I'm a super sub.

[Host]

Impact sub. Big T. Off the bench. Yeah. We're calling in the righty.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah.

[Host]

Getting here. Close this thing out.

[Big T]

The setup, man.

[Host]

Yeah, I like it. No, I don't. I don't really care. Birthday parties.

[Big T]

You seem to care a little.

[Host]

No, it's just funny. It was funny that you were like, well, there's a basketball game on.

[Big T]

I mean, there, there. It. There's lots of basketball games on. I'm only not going for one.

[Host]

Yeah, but I'll see you.

[Big T]

Missing the rest of the game. The great slate on Saturday.

[Host]

I'll see you there. I'm going to be pretty hammered by the time you get there.

[Big T]

All right, cool.

[Host]

Hell, yeah. Respect.

[Big T]

I hope you have a great time.

[Host]

So, just so you know, this is one of the last macro dosing podcasts that we'll ever do, because in 2032, it looks like we're going to get blown up by an asteroid. So I think we only have, what, like, 2, 000 shows left? So the clock's on. They keep adjusting the odds of this. This asteroid, and it keeps going up by, like, every week it goes up by about a percent.

[Big T]

It's at a no longer statistically insignificant percentage.

[Host]

Yeah. So is it three point? I saw yesterday, it was like 3.4% maybe?

[Big T]

Yeah, that's what I'd seen at last.

[Host]

3.4% in 2032.

[Arian Foster]

Damn. I saw 3.1. It's. It's climbing.

[Host]

Let me see. I'm going to Pull up. I did a little bit of research on this asteroid. It's not good. It's the highest that we've ever seen in terms of tracking an asteroid.

[Big T]

The 177 foot diameter asteroid would release 8 megatons of energy on impact. 500 times the energy released by the atomic bomb that destroyed Hiroshima.

[Host]

It's the highest risk assessment an asteroid has ever received by any asteroid that's been tracked by NASA. So 3.1% chance. How you feeling? You guys feeling lucky?

[Big T]

I'm not worried about it.

[Host]

You're not?

[Big T]

Also at the, the cities that it said it could hit were all like. Most of them were in Africa. There was.

[Arian Foster]

God damn.

[Big T]

What?

[Host]

Well, it's not us is what Big T. Yeah.

[Big T]

I'm just saying it's not here.

[Arian Foster]

That's it.

[Big T]

I'm just, I was worried.

[Arian Foster]

That's up, bro.

[Big T]

Also, I hope it doesn't hit. I feel like that's clear.

[Host]

Also, they, they have no idea where it would hit. They're not gonna have any idea where it would hit until like, I don't know, maybe a few weeks, month before.

[Big T]

I would think that. But it seems they've got pretty advanced models. I don't know.

[Host]

They, they, I mean, they're saying it's a 3% chance they would even hit at all.

[Arian Foster]

No matter the Earth's flat.

[Host]

They have no idea where this thing's going to hit. But statistically chances are that it's not going to hit you.

[Big T]

Right.

[Host]

And that's the important part. Some other poor bastards problem or it's just a fish problem, where it's going to just hit the ocean. And if it does do that, it would probably also cause some other issues.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, yeah. Tsunamis.

[Host]

Tsunamis, maybe like if it hit anywhere on land. If it was on land, it would be a lot of dirt and shit kicked up into the atmosphere. Probably not good for the planet. But yeah, 3.1% chance. So let's, let's live the next. How many years we got?

[Big T]

7.

[Host]

Does it say what. At what point of 2032 would hit? This is a real bummer for people that have scheduled hotel rooms and stuff for conference versus conference, like out of conference college football games.

[Big T]

I believe UT might be at Washington that year. I was looking forward to going to that game.

[Host]

Let me see. 2032 college football schedule, college football matchups because they announced these things so far in advance. Who's LSU playing in 2032?

[Big T]

We're at Washington in 2030, so we're good.

[Host]

Oh, LSU, Utah, where is that? One that's in. It's in Tiger Stadium.

[Big T]

Oh, see that? We've. I assume they're doing a return trip. That'll be a sick game.

[Host]

I don't think that. I don't want to be stereotypical, but if you're from Louisiana, you're not going to have a great time in Utah.

[Arian Foster]

Right.

[Big T]

It's a. It's a very beautiful place.

[Host]

Yeah, but I mean, you're. That's probably the highest alcohol consumption state per capita against the lowest by far.

[Big T]

But they're in. You know, it's not byu. Like, there is alcohol.

[Host]

Yeah. There's less, but yeah. Okay.

[Big T]

They're at Utah in 2031.

[Host]

Point taken. Oh, bummer for Minnesota fans.

[Big T]

They go into Miami or something.

[Host]

Alabama. Oh, Minnesota. Alabama.

[Big T]

What a. What an interesting schedule.

[Host]

This is what they're trying to take away from you right now.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Host]

Oh, man. JMU versus Liberty. That's going to be a great matchup battle for Virginia. Like whoever. Whoever wins that, they're probably in the catbird seed of who's going to get that Power 5 or the Group of 5 bid.

[Big T]

That should be a trophy game.

[Host]

Yeah, it should. We'll figure something out. But, yeah. So there's the asteroid that's probably going to hit by that time. I'm sure we'll figure out a way to, like, blast it or.

[Big T]

How do we not have that?

[Host]

Already set up a big trampoline. What do you mean? How do we not have that? Have you seen Armageddon?

[Big T]

No, I have not.

[Host]

You haven't seen Armageddon? No. Yes. Yeah. I mean, we've got theories on how to do it. Ram into shit. Try to change the. The trajectory a little bit. Blow up a nuke?

[Big T]

Yeah. Can we just shoot missiles at it?

[Host]

Probably not a missile, but maybe. Maybe a nuclear bomb. We detonated nuke on there. Nuke? Outer space. Or we try to catch the asteroid and then harvest all the metals on it.

[Big T]

It's a shame Trump won't be around for that. He'd love that.

[Arian Foster]

Oh.

[Host]

Why? Is something going to happen to him?

[Big T]

Well, he won't be president.

[Host]

It sounds like Big T. I don't know.

[Arian Foster]

The White House just tweeted out, long live the king. Crazy.

[Host]

Who are they talking about?

[Arian Foster]

One of the Baratheons.

[Host]

Hurricane the dog. RIP. Hurricane. Hurricane. The dog passed away. He's 16 years old. I believe he's a Belgian Malinois. He rescued or he protected Barack Obama against an invader in the White House and sustained injuries. So the dog was medically retired after that point, he was honored with the United States Secret Service Award for Merit. He was issued the Department of Homeland Security Award for Valor, the People's Dispensary for Sick Animals Order of Merit, and the American Medical Medical Center Top Dog Award.

[Big T]

Thank you, Hurricane.

[Host]

He was also the first dog to receive the Animals and War and Peace Distinguished Service Medal, which earned him a spot in the Guinness Book of World Records. Hurricane was also awarded the Secretary's Award for Valor by the Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson for its efforts in protecting the Obama family.

[Big T]

I don't appreciate your laughter.

[Arian Foster]

Why the fuck are we giving dogs awards?

[Big T]

Because this dog was a hero.

[Arian Foster]

So the most decorated dog of all time?

[Host]

Yes, it is the most decorated dog. Maybe Reveille Reveley is, I guess, kind of. But Reveley.

[Big T]

No. Now Hurricane clears Reveley by mile. But at A and M, that dog is.

[Host]

Yeah, well, Reveley is loaded down with participation trophies. Yeah, Re is a DEI dog. They. They gave this dog the rank of. It's like a major.

[Big T]

It's the highest ranking member of their, like, core of Cadets.

[Host]

Yeah, it's a DEI dog. They're like, oh, we don't have. We don't have any dogs represented at Texas A and M in the Core of Cadets. Let's make one of them the highest rank, see where it go. And by the way, A and M hasn't won, but this dog, Hurricane went on a freedom flight. He was honored by Southwest Airlines. On February 11th, they flew Hurricane back home to Washington, D.C. on its Freedom One plane. One last ride for Hurricane, the Belgian Malinois, and they. They met with them. The Secret Service met with Hurricane. They gave Hurricane a plaque in an American flag. Why are you laughing?

[Arian Foster]

Are we doing, bro? This is so goofy.

[Host]

This dog saved. Saved Obama's life.

[Arian Foster]

Got thumbs. He gonna do the plaque.

[Host]

Do you think the dog knew that it was gonna play? I hope they. They should have covered the plaque in peanut butter. That would have been nice.

[Arian Foster]

That made way more sense.

[Host]

The dog would have appreciated it.

[Arian Foster]

Tub of peanut butter. Here you go, brother.

[Host]

Here's a plaque. The dog's like, fuck you.

[Arian Foster]

That's what's up, man.

[Host]

I'm just hungry. Yeah.

[Big T]

I'm sure he lived a great life.

[Host]

He probably did. Yeah. So if you're looking to honor Hurricane the dog, the nonprofit Hurricanes Heroes will continue to raise funds to cover the medical expenses of retired canine heroes.

[Big T]

Also, you can buy a shit coin.

[Host]

Also, you can buy a shitcoin, which we'll discuss later with Jack Mac. But Hurricane, for the Record Hurricane was a great dog. All dogs are great dogs. But this one, especially the most decorated dog in United States history.

[Arian Foster]

All dogs are not great dogs.

[Host]

That's a fact. That Hurricane is the most decorated.

[Big T]

Would you say any dogs are great dogs?

[Arian Foster]

No.

[Big T]

Okay, so then you. You can't speak on this.

[Arian Foster]

Can.

[Big T]

I mean, they're objectively great dogs compared to other dogs.

[Host]

Hurricanes got to be up there, right?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. He's probably the most decorated dog of all time.

[Host]

He literally is the most decorated hero. Yeah. Air Bud, though, like, earbud.

[Big T]

Objectively great dog.

[Host]

The. Yeah. Multi sport.

[Big T]

Golden receiver.

[Host]

Yep.

[Big T]

What was. Was there a subtitle for the original one?

[Arian Foster]

If.

[Host]

If Air Bud came out today and Roger Goodell had his monkey paw prints all over it, it would be called, like, Air Bud Defenseless Retriever. And it would just be Air Bud sustaining a hit across the middle that looked pretty good to, you know, people that watch traditional football. And then Roger Goodell kicking that other dog out of the league for the rest of it.

[Big T]

They buzzed down and say, actually it was targeting.

[Host]

Yeah, it was targeting. I was targeting. I mean, yeah, today's day and age. Hurricane. Who knows what. What we'd say about him, but, you know, he existed in a time before political correctness, so. Good job, Hurricane.

[Arian Foster]

We appreciate you, buddy. Bad name, too.

[Host]

Bad name.

[Arian Foster]

Horrible name.

[Host]

Don't hold it against the dog. Dogs don't name themselves.

[Arian Foster]

You have. Touche. They don't.

[Big T]

Nobody does.

[Host]

Yeah. Oh, that's a good point.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. That's not true. Prince meta world peace.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah, I guess you can, but I.

[Host]

Almost said Malcolm X, but that's not true. The Elijah the Prophet. Wait, what was his official name?

[Arian Foster]

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad.

[Host]

Honorable Elijah Muhammad.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Host]

Bestowed upon him that name along with Muhammad Ali. So what else we got in the news today? Bonnie Blue. We're going to talk about her, actually, a little bit later, but, yeah, she. She got knocked up.

[Arian Foster]

That's. That's wild. I feel. I feel bad for that. No, no, it's. It's. It feels. It logically follows, but I just feel bad for the dude.

[Big T]

I don't know if it's any consolation, he'll probably never know. So.

[Arian Foster]

I mean, I'm sure that kid's gonna want to know who his dad is, though, so. They're gonna be like a thousand dudes. He knocks on a thousand dude's doors. Like, are you my dad?

[Host]

Do you.

[Arian Foster]

By the time he's like, 12, 13, you won't be able to tell me. Yo, that's my. That's my, that's my.

[Big T]

Yeah. You feel bad for the kid?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Host]

Does she ever tell her child the story of its conception?

[Big T]

I don't think. I mean, don't matter. They'll eventually somebody gonna tell them, figure it out.

[Host]

Yeah. That's gonna be a tough day for that kid.

[Big T]

Yeah, I assume it'll. They'll probably find out from like somebody in fourth grade.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Being an asshole.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. Which is way too late. That's gonna, it's gonna happen way sooner than that.

[Big T]

You think?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. Second.

[Big T]

Second. No, not second.

[Arian Foster]

Second. Or third. Yeah, absolutely.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I mean second. You're what, how old are you in second grade? Seven.

[Host]

We should start some sort of a fun just for that kid's eventual therapy.

[Arian Foster]

Go fund me because he about to be up.

[Host]

Yeah, well, let's try to not make the kid. Let's try to get ahead of this.

[Arian Foster]

No pun intended. Yeah, she, she, she's keeping it for sure.

[Host]

Well, she announced that she was pregnant, so I'm. I don't think you typically would do that if then you were going to have pregnancy terminated. Right?

[Arian Foster]

I didn't know she announced it. Yeah, that makes sense though.

[Host]

You get a bunch of like gifts in the mail and stuff and you're like actually kids not sticking around.

[Big T]

Wait, now I'm seeing that Lily Phillips, the other one, the rival is also saying she's pregnant now.

[Host]

Oh, wow.

[Arian Foster]

Not to be outdone.

[Host]

What are the odds this real. What are the odds of this happening? It's on a pretty much 100%.

[Big T]

This, this website isn't okay. No, the. The sun says it too.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, Daily Mail.

[Big T]

So neither of them are pregnant, right?

[Host]

I don't know. It feels like a weird thing to announce if you're not going to have a kid.

[Big T]

Well, I mean, they've done weirder.

[Arian Foster]

That's true.

[Host]

That is true. And I mean the math does check out on it.

[Arian Foster]

Damn. I thought they used condoms.

[Host]

Condoms don't always work.

[Arian Foster]

As a high success. Well, I mean she tested the threshold of the success rate.

[Guest]

I guess I'm saying I also, this is not to say that these men are all terrible people, but there were terrible people in that pool. I'm sure that may have manipulated the integral, the structural integrity of a condom.

[Host]

You think that some of the dudes were poking holes?

[Guest]

I'm just saying. I'm not, I'm not. I'm not saying it did happen. I'm saying it could happen.

[Host]

You know who's to blame here? Who? Conor Griffin. Well, yeah, if he had done a better job he had done a better job.

[Arian Foster]

Yep.

[Guest]

As the jizz janitor.

[Host]

This is why you have a jizz janitor on set.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah.

[Host]

He should be sued.

[Guest]

We should sue Connor Griffin.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest]

And also he's also dating movie at the same time. This is all happening.

[Host]

Is that true?

[Guest]

The New York City influencer Snark Subreddit believes it to be true.

[Host]

Oh, that's wild.

[Guest]

Yeah. Really crazy stuff happening for Connor Griffin.

[Host]

Good. Good for him. Yeah. We're going to hell. This is, this is the news these days. Also, there were like a. A bunch of whales that washed up. I think 157 whales are dead after a horrifying mass stranding event in Australia. You can see some of the pictures online. It's just a beach filled with dead whales. On the beach, it was a pot of 157 whales and they tried to save as many as they could, but most of it got beached. They couldn't push them back out. They did a rescue attempt that lasted for two days. They were called false killer whales. I don't know. I've never heard of a false killer whale before. But they washed up onto shore in Tasmania. They had to euthanize some of the whales too. I don't know how you euthanize a whale.

[Arian Foster]

Just take your fingers, you close their eyes and. And just let it go, man.

[Host]

A grenade. You just put a grenade in their mouth and run away. I don't know. I don't know how much poison would you need to. To euthanize a whale? So this has happened before where whales just. The pod gets lost and they all wash ashore. Somebody was not good at directions in that pod. The leader.

[Big T]

That's a tough, tough way to do a. Tough time to do a bad job.

[Host]

Yeah, very tough time. You had one job.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Host]

And that's just keep us off a beach. That's all you needed to do. So they couldn't get past the break in the water and they just kept turning around and swimming back to the beach. So sometimes they have navigational issues if there's rough seas and they get lost trying to use their echolocation. And sometimes if one whale gets lost, gets sick, gets disoriented, they all start swimming towards that one whale and then they all get stuck. So it might not be the leader. Might have just been one of them that was like, I'm feeling kind of nauseous, start to puke. The others were like, are you okay? Let me hold your hair back. And yeah, they all.

[Big T]

Nobody was smart enough to not end up Dead on the beach.

[Host]

I think some of.

[Big T]

Not to victim blame.

[Host]

They said. They said that 50. 50 whales were able to be saved, but it was hard to push them back out into the. Into the water. They just kept restraining themselves. So there's been a lot of weird stuff happening like this.

[Arian Foster]

Maybe that was a cult and they were just like, yo. But I wanted to be here.

[Host]

Yeah, that's true.

[Guest]

The citizens of the whales.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Except they just killed themselves.

[Host]

Yeah. The Heaven's gate. Yeah, Heaven's gate of the whales.

[Guest]

Did you guys see the angler fish?

[Jack Mack]

I did, yeah.

[Big T]

I have very strong feelings about this.

[Host]

So you want to. You want to talk about the angler fish? Set it up for people.

[Guest]

So there was an angler fish that gained international attention recently because it was the first of its kind ever spotted above, like, near the. Like the. What am I? The top of water?

[Big T]

The surface.

[Guest]

Surface. Thank you. Sorry. Near the surface. And it was swimming towards the surface. And people were trying to find out what the reason for this anglerfish swimming towards the surface is because some people say it can mark climate change or a natural disaster coming or. The anglerfish ultimately died right after this, but they say that maybe towards the end of its life, it could tell it was dying and swam towards the surface. And so people are trying to find out what the reason is. It has struck a chord in mainly women on the Internet.

[Host]

Okay.

[Guest]

Because people feel bad for the angler fish that, you know. It's like, for my last day, I think I'm gonna go see the sun.

[Big T]

There are some of the most unhinged.

[Host]

Wait.

[Big T]

So nonsensical. Like. Like, I've got one pulled up right now. It's of the fish. It says, I've spent my whole life carrying a light no one could follow. So for my final day, I chose to chase one I never made. And it's just these bulls and they all have 8 million likes.

[Host]

Beautiful. It's.

[Jack Mack]

It's.

[Big T]

It's a whole sub genre on TikTok.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Guest]

I got in a very dark hole.

[Jack Mack]

With it the other day.

[Big T]

There's one girl who's explaining to her boyfriend, like, the situation. She's sobbing, like, yeah, out of her mind, sobbing. And he's like, is this about that fish? She goes, shut up.

[Guest]

Yeah, yeah. There's. There's, like, paintings being drawn about it. And it says, and for my last day, I think I will go see the sun. And then women sobbing.

[Host]

That's beautiful. It is. It's touching.

[Guest]

I know. And then it also turned out that the fish is, like, that big.

[Host]

Wait, I thought it was one of those big, long fish. No.

[Guest]

Well, so that's what I thought, too.

[Arian Foster]

And Nemo gassed us with that. We got gaslit by Nemo.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Well, in the. In the one video, in the main video that everyone's seen, where it's just the anglerfish slowly going up, it looks like. You would think, like, kind of like almost like the size of a small dog, but then. And I don't know if this is all. If this is fake news or not, but then.

[Big T]

No, it's like the size of your hand.

[Guest]

Yeah. It's like you can hold it in the palm of your hand. But I also think that it's. Again, I'm not an anglerfish expert, but I saw something that said when they go closer to the surface, they expand, like, the air, like the pressure. And then when they die, the air basically, like, leaves them. So then they. But don't trust me on that.

[Host]

Okay, so this fish, was it sick?

[Guest]

That's what we don't.

[Host]

Or is this just how they die?

[Big T]

No, that's because they said this is one of the first ones that's ever been recorded there.

[Host]

Yeah. Oh, wow. Maybe it's trying to catch some moths for a change, right? Yeah, but.

[Guest]

Yeah, and it's. And, like, people are sympathizing with the anglerfish. I also think sometimes it's like ugly dogs, where it's like, oh, it's so ugly, it's cute. I think people are doing that with the anglerfish.

[Host]

Okay, well, does this anglerfish have a name?

[Guest]

I don't believe they've named it. I think it's taken the whole species. It's the anglerfish.

[Host]

Someone has to name this fish. But it's dead. Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Rhett, are they gonna eat it?

[Guest]

I don't think so. I doubt that. I believe they'll. You probably use it for scientific studies.

[Host]

I would eat it, just for the record.

[Guest]

Like a goldfish.

[Host]

Yeah. If you. When. When's the next time you're gonna be able to eat an angler fish?

[Guest]

When's the next time you're even gonna be able to see one?

[Host]

Probably never.

[Arian Foster]

True.

[Host]

You could be probably the only living person on Earth that's eaten an angler fish.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah.

[Guest]

That feels like it'd be crunchy.

[Host]

I don't know. Yeah, maybe. But maybe you, like, obtain its powers. That's the weird thing about eating animals, is that you eat an animal to gain its energy and its power and its memories. Yes. That's also true.

[Arian Foster]

That would be fire, like water.

[Host]

What would you. What animal would you like to eat? Aryan orca.

[Arian Foster]

Easily. Yeah, just the most beautiful animal on the planet. Absolutely. And the octopus.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

I stopped protesting that. I don't. I don't eat. I don't eat octopus anymore. They're too smart. That's. That's murder.

[Big T]

What's an animal we don't eat that you think would be delicious?

[Host]

That's a good question. An animal that we don't eat. That would be delicious. Horse. Yeah, I mean, some people do eat horse.

[Arian Foster]

I thought. You mean, like America.

[Host]

America. No, no, that's a good. It's a good answer because you're probably right.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Like, when you said orca, I mean, I was like, well, many people eat fish and shit. Like, I'm sure it's.

[Arian Foster]

I don't really like fish like that.

[Host]

Oh, I got one. Capybara.

[Big T]

Interesting.

[Host]

I think that I.

[Arian Foster]

Full of worms and parasites. I feel like it's like the.

[Guest]

Wait, the thing that Glenn Powell looks.

[Host]

Like, it would be just a perfectly bear. I feel like it would be a naturally seasoned pig.

[Guest]

Or like a wombat.

[Arian Foster]

Like this.

[Host]

Yeah. Like, it would be the saltiest, most, like, oily. In a good way. You know, it's got a good amount of fat. Probably doesn't work that hard. Oh, you know, actually, I changed my mind. Sloth eating their. Eating their toes. Like buffalo wings. They don't work.

[Big T]

They're so long, though.

[Host]

Yeah. Yeah. They don't work a day in their life. But they're naturally wagu. They. They treat themselves like. Like the Japanese treat those cattle. They're like, just hanging out in the trees all day, not bothered with life at all. There's not a shred of worry in those muscles. That is true. Natural marblation, whatever the term is for it. Marbling. Sloth would be good.

[Guest]

Oh, that kind of makes me gag. I don't know.

[Host]

Cheetah. You think a cheetah would be good?

[Guest]

Like the lean meat? Yeah, like, that'd get you jacked.

[Host]

What do you think, Big T?

[Big T]

I don't know. Like, what do you think lion would taste like?

[Arian Foster]

Probably good.

[Host]

I think it might be a little bit gamey.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Host]

No, a male lion might not because it's kind of the same principle as a sloth. Male lions, they just hang out.

[Big T]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Host]

I bet zebra's good. Or antelope. Zebra's probably pretty good because you see how hard the lines work to, like, if they see zebra, they're like, let's get this else. Yeah. Gazelles, springboks. You see other animals in nature working super hard to kill that thing and eat it, you know, it's probably pretty tasty. Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Iron Demand.

[Host]

Yeah. All right. What else we got in the news today? Big T sent over a video of.

[Arian Foster]

I have an update real quick. I have my son. He was like, yo, like, I'm just trying to like, he's really good at basketball. He averaged 18 this year. He nice. He like really nice. And so like, I'm trying to find a way to bond with him outside of the basketball court and so what are you into? He tell me. I'm really into anime. He watches anime. He reads anime. And I remember thinking like, yeah, I wanted to get in the back a while back. So he told me he's watching this one that is like one of the most popular ones out right now. I was like, oh, fuck it, let's run it. So we ran it. It's called solo leveling. And I am fucking hooked, bro. I am absolutely hooked on this shit. It is amazing. It's an amazing show. Little sci fi junk. It's Fire Dog. Basically the premise is these gates start appearing. These portals. Right, These portals start appearing in this, in this country. I think it's South Korea. It's based in South Korea. They start appearing and inside of these portals there's magical beasts. And these magical beasts have different, different powers. Some of them are goblins, some of them are lichens, some of them are super big, like spiders, polar bears, whatever. But each portal, each gate has a monster. Like a boss monster, right? And so when the portal started appearing, humans started what they call awakening. And humans have like different powers. They. To. To combat these gates. Because when, because if, if they come out of the gates, you know, they wreak havoc on the town and townspeople. So certain humans, they're called hunters. They have these powers and there's like. I think E tier is the lowest and S tier is the highest. And so anyway, that's a boarded by who doesn't. Who's not in anime? It's. It's a fire show. People that know, know I'm. I'm. I'm hooked. It comes out every. Every Saturday night. So I caught up. I binge watched the entire first and second season.

[Host]

Solo leveling.

[Arian Foster]

Solo leveling is so fun though.

[Host]

I might have to check it out. I've never really been into anime. I've never gotten into it. Is it storytelling pretty good?

[Arian Foster]

That's. Yeah, it's. It's a dope It's. I mean, it's a basic underdog story, right? But, like, this is. This is the plot twist. I think it's going to turn. He's going to start turning evil. I don't know that yet. But that's just my. I think because he's a really good dude and I think he's getting. He's getting op right now.

[Host]

Okay.

[Arian Foster]

It's interesting. It's interesting. Yeah, it's fun little. Fun little thing.

[Host]

What's your son's game like? Is he shooting threes?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, he's a shooter, 100%. I think he went like 90 plus percent from the line. Yeah, I think it was like 21 or 25 or something from the seat for the season. Something crazy. And yeah, he's a shooter. I think he shot like 40 from the 3. Like, he can shoot. His Achilles heel is probably his handles right now. And so that's what we working on. We just working on that daily. And he's gotten way better since the season ended. And actually I'm gonna be in Chicago in March because he has a tournament. Duarte Low private schools have a tournament all over the country, and he's the only sixth grader in the school's history to get invited to the eighth grade tournament. And so we've been. We've been grinding it out.

[Host]

Are fans allowed at this tournament?

[Arian Foster]

I don't see why not.

[Host]

Oh, my gosh. We should go gas him up. Is he gonna get minutes?

[Arian Foster]

Pull up. We. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I mean, he's. He's confident, right? He's my son, so he confident. I'm like. I'm like, yo, what do you think about the eighth grade he's about to play with? He's like, dang better than me. I was like, I'll tell you, dog, he got a little swag to him. It's funny, man. He's like, he's like me, confidence wise, but he's not like me like, shit, talking wise. Like, he's just very quiet. Just very quiet. But, like, when he talks it, he means what he says. It's super funny, man.

[Host]

If it looks like he's play, we should go out and see him and support him 100%.

[Arian Foster]

100%.

[Big T]

Where in Chicago is it? Do you know?

[Arian Foster]

N. I don't. No, I ain't that far. I got to sign the waiver, actually. I'm so sick of emails. But yeah, I got to sign the waiver. But yeah, I had him. Do they I'm taking to this dude who trains. I think he played at West Virginia. He trains a bunch of kids and he's like doing real. It's basically like, it's like towel pushes. I don't know if you ever did that. You put it on a basketball court. You put a towel in front of you.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

And you're on all fours and you. And you push. He's doing like that at, you know, 11 years old. So. Yeah, we'll see, man.

[Host]

It's fun. Fun watching him develop, working on core strength. On what core strength is that what the towel pushes do for core.

[Arian Foster]

But it's also, it's just stamina. You know, it. It fills up your muscles here, your, Your thighs, your ass muscles, everything. It's just about stamina. It's about pushing through really a lot, A lot of those stamina drills is just to push through mentally to break you. You know what I mean? To, to see if you're going to quit. And so that's, that's fun watching them push through that mentally because I did.

[Host]

That for years and to like teach you that you have, you've got more in the tank than you think you do. Your mind will quit before your body does.

[Arian Foster]

Mm. This. It's arguing with that voice inside your head and you telling that I'm in control now. You.

[Host]

Do you remember when you figured out how to master that voice, what were you doing running?

[Arian Foster]

We have these, we had these things I did in high school. Was my dad. We would do. We would do beach runs. And so I'll be. I would be on the sand and him training me over the years, just arms, arms and yelling at me. Arms. Because the common misconception is that your legs are the most important part when you run. But it's your, it's your arms, your. Your legs do what your arms do. So if you have control and push with your arms, your legs will push through. And so there's that aha moment of I could, I could push through. It was like a two mile sand run in the sand. Like on, on the beach. It's. And it became routine for me.

[Host]

I wish I could figure out how to, how to master that voice inside my head. I get bored. That's my problem.

[Arian Foster]

You don't have a, A purpose. You know that, that, that matters.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

I mean, I struggle with working out now because I'm like, I'll do what I have to do. But then like halfway through I'm like, but for what though? You know? Like, it's just from to feel good. And so maintaining discipline when there's no, like, purpose for it is really, it's really hard to do. I struggle with it.

[Host]

There's been some other stuff in the news recently. The, the plane crash in Toronto. Did you guys see that?

[Jack Mack]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

What's up with the planes, bro?

[Host]

I don't know. I don't know what's going on with the planes. I'm, I'm just analyzing them one by one as they come in. My initial analysis. You guys want to hear my analysis of the, the rough landing in Toronto? Thankfully, everybody's okay. And I saw that the people that were in like critical condition have been downgraded or upgraded. Whatever the, the good one is, they're, they're no longer critical, they've improved. But my initial analysis, pilot error, the dreaded pilot error. I don't think that we're looking at another TCAST system on the 737 Max, if anything, you know, I know Boeing's been thrown under the bus a lot recently. People are talking about, you know, the plane manufacturer is not that safe. The Bombardier company that made this plane for Delta. Great job.

[Big T]

Is that how that's pronounced?

[Host]

How do you pronounce?

[Big T]

I always thought it was like Bombardier.

[Host]

Bombardier. I don't know, might be.

[Big T]

Oh, I thought you knew.

[Host]

No, I don't know.

[Big T]

Oh, I don't know either.

[Host]

But the manufacturer, this plane knocked it out of the park. Great job. The wing broke off just like it's supposed to. In a situation like that, wings shouldn't be falling off airplanes. But in that crash, tipped over a little bit, wing breaks off. Most of the jet fuel gets left behind as it ignites. It rolls upside down, fuselage stays intact. Everybody gets out safe. Great job. To the manufacturers. We don't congratulate manufacturers enough. Great job, guys. Absolutely crushed it. The pilot. I don't know, maybe there's, maybe it's going to come out that there was like a 60 mile per hour gust of wind or 100 mile gust per hour. Mile per hour gust of wind, which has happened before in some weird cases. But from what you can see in the video, bad landing, seems like they were really sending it very full send. The plane actually wasn't going that fast. It was just going in way too steep. But like, it's forward momentum wasn't even fast enough for it to make an adjustment at the last minute. And when you land a plane like that, you have to flare it at the end. So when you're going down, you have to pull the nose up and Then just gently land it on the back wheels, let the front wheel come down. This motherfucker just went straight down. Right wheel, I think it was the right wheel. Nose wheel hit, boom, cracked the bottom off, flipped it over. Probably weather related, but bad job. It appears to be bad job by the pilots.

[Big T]

Might have been sick on landing day at pilot school.

[Host]

You don't know. They also said that there was a lot of snow that was being blown across the Runway. And not by a lot. I don't mean like 12 inches of snow or anything like that. I mean like a thin layer of snow. And have you ever seen snow get blown across a hard surface and it makes those like, little waves? They were saying that was probably happening on the Runway, which could become like a little bit visually disorienting to the pilots as they're trying to look at that and land at the last second. Like a Magic Eye poster they were staring at.

[Big T]

I would still hope that that doesn't cause the plane to be upside down.

[Host]

Well, you'll note that there are many other landings that day where the plane didn't end up upside down.

[Big T]

Right. And no one talks about.

[Host]

No one talks about those. So, like, statistically, it's still very safe to fly.

[Big T]

Probably every other one. Yeah, the plane ended up on the right side.

[Host]

Yeah, statistically, very safe to fly still, but I think a little bit less safe than it was not too long ago. It feels like it's. This has been happening more and more, right?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Host]

Like there was a South Korean one that just flew into the barrier or scraped along the bottom of its. Of the fuselage, down the Runway, into the barrier. There was one over in the Caspian area.

[Arian Foster]

What happens? Ran each other in Arizona.

[Jack Mack]

What?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, two things in Arizona just ran into each other.

[Host]

Where.

[Arian Foster]

In Arizona, like at.

[Big T]

Yeah, he was pretty clear about.

[Host]

At sky harbor in Phoenix, Marana Regional.

[Arian Foster]

I don't know Arizona like that, man. I don't know. I think. I think there were private planes for what I read.

[Host]

If I'm not mistaken, it looks like I'm looking at them right now. Oh, this was an old school, like, US Air Force plane from the 50s or 40s.

[Arian Foster]

That'd be funny to see a sign outside of the White House. What up with the plane?

[Host]

Yeah, what's going on with the planes?

[Arian Foster]

What up with the planes, dog?

[Host]

All right, so this one, it looks like it was two, maybe two single seaters.

[Arian Foster]

You should tweet that. That should be fun if you just tweet. What up with the planes?

[Host]

What up with the planes, guys? So I just searched for Arizona planes and one of the first things that came up, Trump playing golf. It says breaking. With two more planes falling out of the sky, Trump is enjoying his third weekday in a row playing golf. With the country in chaos. I'm going to say for the record, I don't think that Donald Trump was responsible for the two single seater planes that crashed at a small airport in Arizona. I don't think that one was on him.

[Arian Foster]

Bold.

[Host]

Yeah, but yeah, planes, man, I, it just, it makes you think, like planes are crazy. Like we just get onto planes and we go through the air, we're going like 400 miles an hour. We land a different city. Honestly, shocking that this doesn't happen more often.

[Big T]

I think every time I get off a plane and I'm like, you know, I'm in San Diego now or whatever. I was like when I got on this plane, I was in Chicago. That was like three hours ago. It's just every time I get off a plane, I'm like, that's nuts.

[Host]

Yeah, good. I'm glad you still have that.

[Big T]

Oh, I have an appreciation. I still have a bewilderment at air travel.

[Host]

It's good to know. I read that some pilots, they were, they were talking about like the evacuation process after the one in Toronto, and they were saying nothing. Nothing irritates me like seeing passengers get onto my plane wearing sandals. How are you going to handle yourself in an emergency if you're wearing sandals? How are you going to follow instructions if you don't have closed toe shoes on?

[Arian Foster]

That's judgmental.

[Host]

If you're going to fly, if you're going to be in an exit row, I need you to be dressed like, like an athlete.

[Big T]

I would, I'd like a pilot that has the confidence to say, it doesn't matter what you wear because we're not crashing. If my pilot says, you need to be dressed for a crash, I'm getting off the plane.

[Host]

That's a good point, Big T. Well, I mean, you don't have to get ready. If you stay ready though, sure.

[Big T]

And it's good to be prepared. But if that's in the pilot's mind. No, I'm not, I'm not riding in your plane.

[Host]

Yeah. If that's top of mind. It's like they see somebody getting on, they're like, you're not going to be, you're not going to be fast in those.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah. This isn't the flight for you.

[Host]

No.

[Jack Mack]

All right, all right.

[Arian Foster]

You're in a plane crash, you're Sitting in the exit row, you agree? Are you stopping and you helping or as soon as that door open, you getting the fuck up out of there?

[Host]

I'm fulfilling my commitment to the the exit row oath.

[Big T]

What is the situation? Is it like, is it that one where you're on the Runway and like everybody is. You've, you've accounted for the fact that everyone's pretty much safe, or is it.

[Arian Foster]

Like second time bomb? You smell, you smell, you smell that, you see smoke, you smell fire or gas or whatever and they're asking you to assist. No, I feel you.

[Big T]

I would have whoever I'm with and we would be gone.

[Arian Foster]

Hey, if we have trouble, if we have plane trouble at all and we have to exit out the exit roll, kiss my ass is what it is. I'm survival first, though.

[Big T]

Your job in the exit row is to pop the door out and then it's every man for himself.

[Host]

Yeah. I don't think that in an exit row you have to stay on the plane and be like, right this way. Right this.

[Big T]

I think they do kind of want you to do that.

[Host]

I think that's the, that's the flight attendant job.

[Big T]

Because they make you say, like, are you willing and able to assist?

[Host]

I think the flight attendant says, open that exit row door, sir. And then you're like, gotcha. And then you lean over, you grab the handle, you pull it either in or out. Depending on what type of plane you're on. You open that up and then she tells you, are he go out onto the wing or go down the giant fun inflatable raft.

[Big T]

Now that if you're in a situation where everyone is fine.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Like this one seems to have been. That's cool to do once.

[Host]

Yes. I might even climb back up into the airplane, go one more, go down again.

[Big T]

I mean, you're. Hopefully you'll never get to do it again, Right. Golf season is in full swing and.

[Host]

Getting out there to work on your.

[Jack Mack]

Game is bound to make any day even better.

[Big T]

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[Jack Mack]

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[Host]

Harrison Ford is maybe, maybe the worst pilot.

[Big T]

Oh, well, if they were him, that's. Different story.

[Host]

Harrison Ford, I think, I think he might have crashed three planes.

[Big T]

Okay, well then that if you crash a plane multiple times, that makes sense. You're a bad pilot.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

If you're on a plane that someone else is flying and it crashes more than once, that's unheard of. But I don't think I'd be able to get on a plane again.

[Arian Foster]

I think you're right. It says when sitting in the exit row on an airplane, you are required to be able to assist the flight crew in an emergency evacuation, which could include opening the emergency exit door, verbally directing other passengers and helping them safe. Well, and helping them safely exit the aircraft if necessary. This means you must be physically capable of performing these actions and understand the safety instructions provided by the flight attendants. Key points about an exit. Physical ability. You must be able to exit. You must be able to open the exit door, reach and manipulate levers versus other passengers. So if you are like you got like one arm, like they ain't gonna let you sit in exit row.

[Host]

Yeah. No, you have to be ready, willing and able. Able. Big part of it.

[Arian Foster]

Best abilities, availability.

[Host]

That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Harrison Ford has had multiple plane crashes throughout his aviation career. Let's see, how many plane crashes has Harrison Ford had? Harrison Ford, known for his iconic roles and movies, has been involved in several aviation incidents throughout his flying career. Incidents include a helicopter crash, a Runway overshoot in 2000, a golf course crashes, 2015, taxiway landing in 2017, and a Runway crossing mistake in 2020. Despite these incidents, Ford remains an active flyer and has explained. Oh, these are real things. Yeah. What the.

[Arian Foster]

I thought it was like movie roles.

[Host]

So 1999, he was, he was in a helicopter. He was taking a flight with an instructor. He was practicing an emergency landing procedures on a helicopter. He had to land the rotorcraft in a riverbed 45 miles northwest of Los Angeles. The helicopter was severely damaged, but Ford and his instructor escaped without injury. In 2000, Ford was piloting a six seater Beechcraft Bonanza in Lincoln, Nebraska. The aircraft was blown off the Runway due to high gust. Winds. High wind gusts. Ford lost control of the aircraft while steering it on the ground. The aircraft received minor damage and the occupants were uninjured. 2015, Harrison Ford was injured after crash landing his two seater plane on a Pinmar golf course in Southern California. The aircraft took off from Santa Monica and soon after Ford Declared an emergency due to engine failure. The actor crash landed on the nearby golf course rather than on busy land. Ford had a broken arm and and received head injuries. He was taken to the hospital on a stretcher. In 2017, the actor. Oh, my God.

[Arian Foster]

I thought she was done.

[Host]

No, his. His husky plane on a taxiway at John Wayne Airport. The actor mistook a taxiway for a Runway and narrowly missed hitting an American Airlines Boeing 737 with over 100 passengers. He acknowledged his mistake and was required by the FAA to take situ situational awareness training.

[Big T]

If you're a pilot.

[Host]

Yep. But there's one more.

[Big T]

Oh, okay, tell us about that one.

[Host]

In 2020, Ford was instructed to hold before crossing the Runway after landing at Hawthorne Airport outside Los Angeles. The air traffic controller asked them to hold short until another aircraft had completed the touch and go approach. The actor continued and mistakenly crossed the active Runway. The controller had to scold Harrison Ford for the mistake. The approaching aircraft avoided landing and performed a go around.

[Big T]

You say 2020.

[Host]

This is 2020.

[Big T]

So he's still doing this.

[Host]

Well, that was the last one. So he's been on a hot streak. Well, in other words, you might be due.

[Big T]

If you're a pilot and you crash once, I think you can. You get one more shot and you can try once more. The second incident, you're done.

[Host]

Well, most people don't get a second incident.

[Big T]

Right, right. But you've got to stop after too, or you should be forced to stop.

[Arian Foster]

He's got to be in human history. He's had been in the most plane crashes.

[Host]

Yeah. It's time to take the keys away, Grandpa.

[Big T]

Is this well known?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

I didn't know.

[Host]

I think so. I mean, the crazy one is he ran. He landed on the taxiway at an airport instead of the Runway.

[Big T]

Yeah. That's insane.

[Host]

That's hard to do. And he almost took out an entire American Airlines flight. And then he just had to take a course and they're like, all right, get back out there, Harrison.

[Big T]

Someone tweeted three hours ago. What if it's Harrison Ford crashing all these planes?

[Host]

Good point.

[Big T]

And then someone else tweeted in December. I like when Harrison Ford gets paid a big stinky paycheck because you know exactly where that money's going. Comical amounts of weed in a small plane or helicopter. He will crash on a golf course.

[Host]

Yes.

[Arian Foster]

I didn't know it was this much of a thing, though.

[Host]

Mm. Dude. Landing on the taxiways, sneaky. One of the most dangerous things you can do because there was I forget where it was, but it was in relatively recent history. There was a full, like, passenger plane, like a 737 that mistook the taxiway for the Runway and was landing on it. And there were, I think, four flights that were lined up, one right after the other that were making their way out to the Runway. If this plane hadn't pulled up, I think it was, like, 30ft away from hitting the ground. If this plane hadn't pulled up, it would have taken out everybody on that plane and then most of the people on probably the next two or three planes. It would have been, like, 1500 people dead because this one idiot came down onto the taxiway. Harrison Ford almost did that.

[Big T]

Are they not, like, should we make them different colors?

[Host]

I feel like that's not a bad idea.

[Big T]

Like, why? That seems very simple.

[Host]

Yeah, not a bad idea.

[Big T]

One red, one green.

[Host]

Yeah. Green is land.

[Big T]

Oh, see, I would say green is takeoff green. You're going.

[Host]

No, no. Oh, you mean like takeoff and depart. The taxiways, like, those are the small ones that you drive around to get out to the right strip. So, like the small roads that you take out to get out to the main highway.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Host]

So this. This plane tried to land on one of the small roads where it was a bunch of planes wheeling themselves around going, like, 20 miles per hour. But that's not a bad idea either. It was like, paint the taxiways red.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Host]

Runways green.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Host]

Good idea, Big T. We might just save lives.

[Arian Foster]

I flew into Knoxville on my trip many moons ago on my visit, and I saw that orange and white box, and I thought. I was like, that's. That's a little insane, dog. They do it on the planes, too. I just thought it was like a, you know, school pride at the airport. But that. That's a lot of places, right? They have that orange and white box at a lot of places.

[Host]

Yeah, sometimes it's red and white.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Oh, so maybe it is school pride, then.

[Host]

It might.

[Arian Foster]

I've seen. I've seen in other places, though. I've seen.

[Big T]

No, I think it's a box. There's a construction. Like some flag you have to use in construction, too. That's an orange and white checkerboard. And Kentucky was working on their arena, or there was something going on right next to their arena a few years ago, and the construction crew had the orange and white checker flag up, which signifies something. And all the Kentucky fans got mad because it was like a Tennessee thing, and they thought it was somebody trolling them, but it was Actually, just the construction workers doing their job.

[Host]

Yeah. Orange and white checkered flags are used in construction and at airports to mark vehicles, job sites, and hazards. They are also known as airfield safety flags.

[Big T]

You want to know another fun fact?

[Host]

I do.

[Big T]

Every structure at Disney World is less than 200ft tall. Because once it gets to 200ft, you have to put a red blinking light on it.

[Host]

Ah.

[Big T]

And I guess that would ruin the magic.

[Host]

Okay, that is a fun fact. I didn't know that for planes. All right, anything else in the news we want to jump into today? Anything?

[Arian Foster]

Kanye is officially not a Nazi.

[Big T]

Oh, really?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, officially. He tweeted today. After further reflection, I've come to the realization that I'm not a Nazi.

[Big T]

And you know what? He's gonna get no credit for that growth.

[Arian Foster]

That was. It was close, though. Guys, we. You had us.

[Big T]

You had a scare the first half.

[Host]

People can't make mistakes.

[Big T]

Is he still selling the shirt?

[Arian Foster]

I mean, I haven't. I haven't checked his website.

[Big T]

If you go to yeezy.com, it's. It's a handwritten thing that says Yeezy stores coming soon. So. So the shirt's not for. No longer for sale.

[Arian Foster]

It looks like a left handed thing. Like, it looks like a three year old child wrote yeezy stores coming soon with a heart.

[Jack Mack]

If.

[Big T]

If someone ordered one. You think that's getting shipped the Nazi shirt? Yeah, or he's doing refunds. Since he's reformed.

[Arian Foster]

I would doubt it. I mean, I don't know that he's reformed. The tweet before, he said, adam Sandler, thank you for the love. And with the tweet before that, he said, you telling me if you were hermaphrodite, you wouldn't stick your dick in your own pussy?

[Host]

47, 000 likes this man is.

[Big T]

Did you see his tweet of. Oh, it seems he's wiped his Twitter.

[Host]

He has? Yeah, he deleted. I. I was hoping that the old one that said I am a Nazi was now community noted.

[Big T]

Did you see the one a few days ago about the original name for the Yeezus album?

[Host]

No.

[Big T]

Oh, yes, it was. It was something. I. I can't say it, but.

[Arian Foster]

Oh, he said. He said it was. It was like black or.

[Host]

Or something like that.

[Big T]

Yeah, it was along those lines.

[Host]

Okay.

[Arian Foster]

Something like that. Insane. He's like the original name. Jesus. Somebody on the B was like, I kind of like Yeezus better not.

[Host]

All right, let's say hypothetically, that was the name of an album, right? And it's the best album you've ever heard, right? It is incredible. It's, it's thoughtful.

[Big T]

That album was pretty good.

[Host]

It's, it changes music. It's an important, important creation going through the history of, of music in this world that stands out as a seminal moment. The best of all time. Does it win any Grammys?

[Big T]

I don't see how it could.

[Host]

Aaron, you think it does?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. Especially if in some kind of way, which I don't think it would, but in some kind of way, it was an ironic commentary. There's a reason for the. Yeah, it was a reason for the ironic naming of it. Right. And so. And it kind of explained it through the body of work, and it was like a good piece of art. Like, I, I don't know that that could be done, but I, I do. Yeah.

[Big T]

What if it was just that Kanye is a nut job?

[Arian Foster]

I mean, I think that's the case. But I also, I don't know if you remember, I, I, I, I, I went up, I came across that, that tweet thread long time ago. That was, that was explaining in detail. It was a. Kanye was doing performative art.

[Host]

Yes.

[Arian Foster]

In the public. And part of me, a very small part of me, we're talking a percentile, a half a percentile, is kind of hoping that that's what's happening still. I highly doubt it. But, like, like, maybe this is just like some kind of performance art stage play that he's acting out in front of the public and he's gonna somehow flip it on his head and he's gonna be regular. I don't think that's the case. But part of me is like, maybe, because it's just, at this point, it's just like this. We're witnessing something, like, genuinely crazy.

[Big T]

If he came out and said that, though, would you believe it? Because I don't, I wouldn't. I don't think anyone else would.

[Arian Foster]

Well, if there's performance art, like, like Andy Kaufman. Right. If there's, if there's a performance art, there's a goal and there's something that they want you to see. There's something that they're, that they're poking or provoking from or for society.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

And there's a message in the art. And so, I mean, right now it just seems like he's, like, super anti Jewish and just extremely off his rocker because I remember when he came out with his gospel album, I was kind of upset because I was like, you know, gospel music is kind of whack to me. No disrespect, just not my preference. And, yeah, he. He's a great artist. So I was like, all right, music's gonna go down that. Down the hill. And then, you know, three or four years later, he's tweeting massive amounts of porn, just, like, live and thanking everybody who makes porn. He said, thank the Jewish people for the porn. Like, it's just. And so, like, I don't know. But I don't know, man. I hope it gets help or I hope in some, you know, universe that this is going to be a great act and we're going to. There's going to be a reason. I can't see how, but part of me holds out, man. He made. He made graduation, you know, made late registration. Know he's a big, big part of my life. Maybe that easy dead, though. I don't know.

[Host]

It's a very funny meme in the replies underneath the. The not a Nazi post. And it's just a meme. It's the cycle of Kanye west, and there's only two parts to it. We're so back, and then it's over. So right now, we're so back.

[Arian Foster]

Very soon.

[Host]

Coming to the realis, how many people come to the realization that you're not a Nazi?

[Arian Foster]

No, I was. I was almost racist, dog. I was this close.

[Host]

No, but he's saying that, like, in order to come to that realization, you have to be a Nazi at some point. And then you're like, whoa.

[Arian Foster]

May.

[Host]

Or maybe I just realized not he.

[Arian Foster]

Had to do something where he was like, I don't want to take it this far. Maybe I'm not a Nazi.

[Host]

Yeah. What? What? I want to know what part of the Nazi ideology that did not appeal to him beforehand. Now, like, it's are the part of the Nazi ideology that he just discovered made him say that he's not a Nazi. It might be something very, very small.

[Arian Foster]

I don't know. It could be as some. Simple as the uniforms they wore. You know, he's super into fashion. Yeah, but he also did. But he also did say Hitler is or no. Hitler was so fresh.

[Host]

Yeah, he might have. He might have gotten an Uber in a Volkswagen and he was like, this sucks. This car is terrible.

[Arian Foster]

Maybe I'm not.

[Host]

Yeah, I'm not a Nazi. They love this. No, that's not me.

[Big T]

They made them.

[Host]

This car sucks.

[Big T]

Volkswagen means like the people's car.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hugo Boss, I believe, designed the uniforms also. I think Hugo Boss might have designed the New Jersey State Police uniforms, too. I Can't find. Fun fact. Yeah. All right, well, Connie's. Connie's back, guys.

[Arian Foster]

Definitely not a Nazi.

[Host]

Definitely not a Nazi. All right, anything else we want to get into? Because we're going to talk about coins.

[Big T]

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[Host]

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[Big T]

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[Jack Mack]

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[Arian Foster]

I participate in McDonald's for a limited time.

[Guest]

Oh.

[Host]

With Jack Mac.

[Guest]

Does Arian want to talk about tgl?

[Host]

Oh, yeah. Aaron, you were at the golf league.

[Arian Foster]

I did. I went. I went. Little. Little recap. I was tweeting about it, and they DM me. Slight flex, but it was really dope. And it was like, yo, we'd love to have you out. And I think what they're doing is they're trying to get as much like, notable people there to kind of, like, garner attention to the league. They're trying to start it up. And my initial. So I went. When Tiger woods team was playing Ricky Fowler's team, like New York or something like that. And cece Sabathia is a part owner of the New York team, so he was there. I think Serena Williams was there, too. And my first. My initial thoughts was it was a very unique arena, Right. It's really dope. And I really. I don't know. I like it. I really do. I think. I think golf is extremely highbrow, though. And I think that doesn't lend itself to what makes sporting events fun. People like drama. People like beefing, shit talking. People like that shit, right? As much as the, you know, minivan drivers pretend that they don't. You like sports for that, for that combativeness. And I think golf is just so nice that it's. It's. It can get bland. Right. I think what would really push this over if is if they had, like, real. I mean, why would people watch wrestling, right? Those storylines and the drama and the head to heads, and then it creates rivalries. I think if something like that was to happen in golf where two dudes really don't like each other and there's shit talking going on. Like, there was one point in time, Tom Kim, the other team, and it's like, against golf etiquette. The other team had hit a. It was like a pull. I think it was Rickie Fowler actually. He hit a pool, and it looked like it was going to ob. It ended up going in the bunker, but it looked like it was going to ob. And Tom Ken was, like, standing there like it's out. People like that shit and I like that shit. I would love to see some shit talking going on where it got kind of real because they're so close too. That would be dope. I think that and putting the mics on dudes and letting, letting the crowd hear what's going on a little bit, I think that would be dope. But I enjoyed it. I think it's really, it's really dope that technology is coming along and being an integral part of the sport. I think there's something there. I don't know that it's going to be. I don't know. I know it's never going to usurp the actual sport, but I think it's a good little, you know, caveat to the, to the sport. That can be, that can be fun. I, I enjoyed myself in the arena just like as a, as a patron. It was fun.

[Host]

I think that there's something about golf like the mentality that you have to have to get really, really fucking good at golf. I'm talking professional level, one of the best in the world. The mentality that you have to have to get to that place probably doesn't lend itself to, to being like brash and you know, super outspoken and kind of a prick. You know, I'm sure there are some pricks that become great at golf, but I think I've heard because you, you have to dedicate yourself to almost like, you know, it's all on you. You have to work on yourself so much in golf and it's such a mental game that you have to work at getting out of your own way in your head and it makes you less likely to be the kind of guy that's going to be like, fuck you, you piece of shit.

[Arian Foster]

I don't know, I think, I think I disagree. Like you hear stories all the time about people talking about how like Tiger would like subtly talk shit to people, right? Or there's like subtle shit talking. It's. But it's just not like I think golf was created in amongst the blue bloods. Amongst the blue bloods and for the blue bloods, the highbrow, high net worth of society where decorum is important, where if, if you, there's certain country clubs, you can't walk around with a hat on inside, shit like that, right? Really whack ass rules that, that I feel like segregate society in a way that's like the bottom part of society was never, has never really been exposed to golf on a real, in a real way.

[Host]

It Costs a lot of money to play.

[Arian Foster]

That's why it's very. It's that, that that barrier is money. And I think, you know, in the inner city societies where I grew up, like, we thought golf was corny. And it's a lot of the reasons as to why. I think originally it was. That's why I feel like dress goes a force to keep the riff raff out. Right. But if, if golf starts merging in a way and it's going towards there merging in a way to include, then people that get good at golf and can get good at golf at that level will come from the area where you, you golf. But you're also talking shit with people on the basketball court, you know what I mean? Or a football field or whatever hockey rink or whatever the case may be. I think I could get that, man. But I really enjoyed the format, honestly, and had this really dope part of it. The technological side where they'll shoot it on a screen and then wherever it lands, there's a light on the top that highlights on the other side of the green where the ball goes.

[Host]

It marks it.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, it's really dope. I enjoyed it, man. I really enjoyed it. Tiger got his head. He was, he was, he was struggling. I mean, his mom just died, you know what I'm saying? I saw. I didn't really expect much, but I mean, it was dope to see him out there and he was, he was struggling, though. Like, like, I'm talking like with a seven iron, like. Yeah, back on some. Like, it was, it was just pretty bad. But I mean, you kind of expect that from somebody struggling like that mentally.

[Host]

What did Trump say? She's moved on to greener fairways. Is that what did he really. What he said?

[Arian Foster]

No way. Did he really? Yeah.

[Host]

I'm trying to remember. Look up the, the post that he made when, when she passed. Because Trump loves Tiger.

[Arian Foster]

I think they love each other.

[Host]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big T]

I was just informed that Tiger Wood's wonderful mother, Coltita passed away. She has gone on to greener fairways. Coltita woods was an amazing influence on Tiger and gave him much of his strength and brilliance. Melania and I send our love and prayers to Tiger and his incredible family.

[Host]

Greener fairways.

[Arian Foster]

May we all.

[Host]

May we all end up on greener fairways one day.

[Big T]

Agreed.

[Arian Foster]

This is my king. My king. Trump. Thoughtful king.

[Host]

Long live the king.

[Arian Foster]

Long live the king.

[Host]

How many more jokes are. Are we going to listen to where Trump, like, just tosses out? Maybe I'm going to run again until you Guys can say that I was right, that he's going to like toss that out there.

[Big T]

When has he done that?

[Host]

It's been.

[Big T]

He had that weird tweet where he said like, he who saves his country breaks no law or something, which was. I don't know what. Who the told him to tweet that?

[Host]

I think Napoleon tweeted that at some point.

[Guest]

Told himself.

[Big T]

I know someone. Someone should have told him not to.

[Host]

I think it's a Napoleon quote that he was putting out there, not what you want to put out from any official channel.

[Guest]

Well, and it's also the. It was like. I think Trump tweeted it and then the White House, like took it and made a graphic of it. Like they were super spreading it.

[Big T]

The White House has been on top of their social game.

[Guest]

No, I. They have not. The deporting Valentine's. That's the deporting Valentine's one. The fact that we live in a world where like, that's real is actually the asmr. Did you see the ASMR one?

[Big T]

I did.

[Guest]

That's disgusting.

[Arian Foster]

That was sad. That was like. I mean, I laughed on some like, I can't believe we're here, dog. This is insane. That's is crazy.

[Host]

There's nothing you can do.

[Arian Foster]

Just laughing. Like. I mean, holy man.

[Big T]

You can dislike what they post, but they have a clearly defined social strategy.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, yeah. To be. Yeah, that. That's their whole play. Like just piss off the lips and then the constituency goes. They're just trolling. Take a joke. Like, that's crazy, fam. It's crazy to me. Definitely Jesus would do that. Absolutely.

[Host]

The chains.

[Arian Foster]

Christian nation. Christian Nation.

[Host]

But yeah, he's. He's. He's made the reference several times. I don't. I still don't know if he's going to try to do something, but there was a one member of Congress that tried to pass a law saying that he was allowed to. To run again. I don't know if he's going to do anything about it, but I. My entire point from the get go was he will float it out there at some point and I. I feel like I've been vindicated on that. So everyone that gave me shit when I said that PFT was right, but that's all I said.

[Big T]

But you think that's all I said.

[Host]

Was that he would put it out there.

[Big T]

He's gonna try to.

[Host]

I have no idea, actually. I don't. I. I'm not gonna say no, but I'm not gonna say yes. But my Whole.

[Arian Foster]

I think your stance was a little more hardline than that.

[Host]

I think.

[Arian Foster]

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Host]

Or we can just pull the clip.

[Arian Foster]

I think the clip. You said he's abs like you were certain. He's like, he's not gonna. That's how I'm at. I mean, because, I mean, you're talking about me here. I like out. Even I was like, I don't think you're gonna do that, dog.

[Host]

No, I didn't, I didn't. I don't believe that I said he was definitely gonna do it. I believe that I said he would float it out there.

[Big T]

I think it was somewhere in between. I think you said, yes, he's gonna like dick around and say it. But then I believe you said you thought he would actually try to.

[Host]

We're somewhere in the middle. I don't know. But yeah. Okay, so that's two minutes, Trump. We're getting better at this.

[Arian Foster]

We really are.

[Host]

We will. Fair warning, Trump will be brought up in the shitcoin discussion because of the Trump coin, which led into the Melania coin which led into the Libra coin which Jack Mack will get into. And also Jack Mack. I think you would. Most people would describe Jack Mack as someone who would give. Give Donnie a fair shake.

[Big T]

Yes. And I think he was very, very down the middle.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Even dare I say left Jack.

[Host]

Left Jack, yeah. Left Mac. He is. Yeah. He's. He's been known as a friend at times to that administration, but he's, he brings up some of the stuff with the Trump coin and the Melania coin, which are. It's when you've lost the crypto bros. That's a tough one to come back from. So yeah, we'll get into it with Jack Mack. You might recognize him from online college football Expert Jack Mack. TikTok expert Jack Mack.

[Big T]

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[Host]

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[Host]

No refunds. Okay. We now welcome on Recurring guest Right. Recurring guest macrodosing Jack Mac at Jack CF cfp. Was it cfb cfp.

[Jack Mack]

I should probably get it. I should probably remove the CFB at this point, but it's kind of it's in my Twitter handle so follow me there then Jack Mack Barstool on Tick Tock Jack Mac cfb. You can call me Jack. Jack Mack Reoccurring Guest Yes, I've been on before. I think sometimes you FaceTime me as well.

[Big T]

When is the last time you were on?

[Jack Mack]

We. The last time I was on we almost started a world war between well, I guess it would more be a civil war between Puerto Rico and the. Oh no, no, it would have been a world war because Jake Malsek was.

[Big T]

Playing on Poland, Czech Republic, Czechia.

[Host]

Not Czechia.

[Jack Mack]

And he said that all the, all the Puerto Ricans were Long island kids. And I think he was kind of right.

[Host]

Right.

[Big T]

Yeah, they got very upset about that. I recall.

[Host]

Yeah, Malasek was right. Put another, put another dollar in the jar that we all keep out here. So Jack Mack, we like to have you on the show whenever there's something that we don't understand that we need a little explainer on. Also I really enjoyed your your explanation video that you did about the Zizian cult.

[Jack Mack]

Oh my God.

[Host]

So we did an episode on them last Thursday. It came out.

[Jack Mack]

Oh wow.

[Host]

That just have to go. Listen, it just, there's just so many layers to it. It gets insane. Basically learning that they subscribe like whole hog to the theory of like that the artificial intelligence will take over the world one day and it'll punish people that don't promote its existence into happening is just an insane thing to actually act upon.

[Jack Mack]

And then they, they subscribed to another theory I was reading up on forget what it was called. But it was essentially you do what your gut tells you no matter what. And I think that backs up their violence. I forget what it was called but they are. I, I really think a documentary by a really great crew would be phenomenal because that what is happening there and there's probably more that poor, that poor owner of the apartment. I mean he lost an eye and then he ended up getting killed. Yeah. No. And then it all. It's crazy. It was connected. I thought. I thought it was a politically motivated attack on the Border Patrol agents on Trump's inauguration day, but no, it was. It was the Zizians. The Zizians, they.

[Host]

They're countrywide, just psychos. And the. The head of the group that says that some people have like half good brains, half bad brains, some people have like double bad brains, and some people have both sides of their brains, which are good. But coincidentally, she's one of the only people that has the double good brain. It's like just classic weird cult shit going on, but it's fantastic. I actually, there will be a documentary that will come out on them in the next. I'd say three months. The way that Netflix is moving right now.

[Jack Mack]

I saw the Netflix anymore, it's hulu. Luigi has 55 documentaries at this point.

[Big T]

Calling for a mistrial because there's a documentary.

[Jack Mack]

I saw that. And then Kaitlan Collins is backing him up.

[Arian Foster]

It was.

[Jack Mack]

Luigi is the gift that keeps on giving.

[Host]

I.

[Arian Foster]

The.

[Jack Mack]

The Caitlyn Collins situation was also fascinating because she tweeted out that he made a website and then everyone said, well, you're trying to get him his bail fund. Ra. It was, well, I guess not bail fund more so lawyer fees. I kind of felt bad for her, but I mean, also that's just the game she plays, so.

[Host]

Check. We're going to get into shitcoins in a second. Before we start talking about those, though, I got to ask you how your girlfriend's doing. How's Ms. Blue? Bonnie Blue? You guys really seem to hit it off.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah. It's so pregnant.

[Big T]

Are you the father, Buddy?

[Host]

That paternity test would take longer than an SAT. It would. It would be.

[Big T]

I mean, the SAT's over in a few hours.

[Host]

You have to study for it.

[Guest]

Maury's got to come out of retirement.

[Host]

They have to clone Mori in order to do that.

[Big T]

Paternity is Maury. Is Maury no longer with us?

[Guest]

Maury's alive?

[Host]

Yeah, he's alive.

[Big T]

Oh, then why clone?

[Host]

They have to make other Maury's. I say there would have to be like. It's like the Shakespearean thing of chaining monkeys up at typewriters. If you chained an infinite number of Maury Povich's up to seaming containers, eventually you would figure out who Bonnie Blue's baby daddy was. But. So tell me about that experience, because she, in your words, she could have been a low tier influencer. One of the highest compliments you can pay to a Woman or model or.

[Big T]

Low tier influencer or model.

[Jack Mack]

So sometimes, you know, you, you tweet something and you know it's going to get some people riled up. I knew that one was gonna. I thought it was gonna be a cult classic, shout out to the Zizians, but it, it went to. Ended up being quoted in the Daily Mail in New York Post about the article from the inauguration about that party because somebody mockingly replied to my tweet tweeting about somebody on that cover. And then they, the New York Post and Daily Mail, quote, tweeted it as if that it was a real thing that somebody was saying. Obviously it's all burners. But meeting her in person was, Was interesting because on paper she's a very attractive woman, but you can't get past the thousand guys in one day. It's. It's kind of, it's. It's right there in your mind all the time. But I will say she, she was great. Not to sound like a simp, but she was great and she, she played along. She had a team. Her manager is a woman who seems very much down to just like really continue to push her. Push her to limits that are unforeseen. I guess she's going to Cabo and maybe Fort Lauderdale for spring break. Now. I'm going to say this. The pregnancy thing's a publicity stunt. I bet she's not pregnant.

[Big T]

I haven't been able to find any. I just see people saying she's pregnant, but I haven't seen like a real announcement of it. Where did that come from?

[Jack Mack]

She said it in a video.

[Big T]

Oh, she said it, but it was.

[Jack Mack]

Kind of just a random video that I think was on her Snapchat story. I don't think it's. I, I think it was almost kind of one of those tweets that goes viral and then it becomes a story because everyone believes it. But you're right, there's no confirmation. And she thrives off of. I will say I asked her about her rivalry with Lily Phillips and she said that she doesn't really want to acknowledge Lily Phillips because. Not because she doesn't like her, but because this was crazy. But she said she does her content for her, for her subscribers and she wants to make them happy. Doing stuff with Lily Phillips or others doesn't really. Unless the subscribers want it. She was. She's not gonna do it. So she's doing it for something bigger than her.

[Host]

It's like Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. What's a bigger rivalry that they won't.

[Big T]

Even acknowledge what's a bigger rivalry right now. Usa, Canada or Bonnie Blue. And the other, the other performer.

[Host]

I think it's probably Bonnie. I think Bonnie's the hottest name really right now. Yeah, I. Listen Jack, I think she might actually be pregnant. I'm going out on a limb here. But it. If we're talking statistically just based on probability, she's definitely pregnant, right?

[Jack Mack]

Yeah, but there's no way they weren't.

[Guest]

Like using as much protection as well.

[Big T]

Did you see one of the.

[Host]

Statistically like condoms have a efficacy rate of like 90 to 95% and if she's taken a thousand dicks with a thousand condoms, that means that there's going to be. I guess it also depends on what day of the month she was. She was performing these duties on.

[Guest]

I also saw a tweet that was like birth control has a 99.9% effective rate. So it's like one in a thousand.

[Big T]

Yes. It's from Greg, one of the great Twitter interactions of our time. He said, I'm shocked the girl who had intercourse with a thousand men in a day is pregnant. A woman replied, I am. You'd think she'd be on birth control. He said, birth control is 99.9% effective. So that means one baby out of every thousand.

[Host]

Yeah. So exactly.

[Big T]

It actually makes sense.

[Host]

Yeah. And I know that birth, if you use it consistently incorrectly like the pill should be as close to 100 as possible. But sometimes, you know, women forget things just like guys.

[Big T]

It does seem too convenient though. Cuz Right. As the news cycles dying down about the thousand. Now she's pregnant.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah. No, I think she knew. It's kind of like Jake Paul and Logan Paul know in their back pocket they have one huge payday. No matter what they can fight each other. I think Bonnie Blue knows she has two big paydays left in her pocket. One big pregnancy which isn't more a payday as much as getting back in the news to her and Lily Phillips do a, do a little something together.

[Host]

Let's send them over to Ukraine and I guarantee they could stop the war.

[Jack Mack]

I, I would not be shocked if she has not thought of that. Also they're on essentially they told me they're on a, a visa, a travel visa to America right now. And they're trying to do as much as they. And over the next however month or so, whatever that means. But I think that me and Lily's the same way. They came over at the same time.

[Big T]

It's like the Beatles.

[Host]

I mean that should be Lily. There's been a lot of discussion about H1B visas. That should be an acceptable way. Like if you're putting yourself in the top 1% of the top 1% of your profession, skills that we don't have, I would say that qualifies. Right.

[Big T]

Of any profession.

[Host]

Any profession.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. H1B. Yeah. I mean, yeah, Put it in that database everyone was going through.

[Host]

Yeah. So, Jack, let's talk about shitcoins, because we don't really understand them that much. I've been doing some reading and I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos about what's been going on recently. But my understanding is that post bitcoin there were some rival currencies that were made. If we can take it back to like square one. Bitcoin became a thing. People found out about it online, then other people decided, hey, if that guy can make a bitcoin, I'm going to make a rival coin for it. So do you know like, what the first rival coins to bitcoin were?

[Jack Mack]

No, but obviously there's been ones that have. Bitcoin's the standard, right? It's the top of the top and then there's the, the Ethereum and then there's litecoin. And one that's really won recently is Solana. And Solana is where a lot of these shit coins exist. Because bitcoin, as a network, you can't really build under, right? So think of it like a chain and obviously the blockchain Solana, how it's made allows you to really attach on very easily. You and I, us three or us five right now, could create a coin on this website called Pump Fun and call it macro dosing or call it something outrageous. And then obviously we'd have to fund it to get it to a point where it's really gets past the pump fund stage. But you can start it with $0 or maybe just a hundred dollars or so, and then people will buy it. We would have the influence. I mean, if you guys tweeted out, I wouldn't recommend it, but if you, if we tweeted out right now, we could create a coin right now without much money and do a little pump and dump scheme. I'm not saying we should do.

[Big T]

I don't want to do that kind.

[Jack Mack]

Of a scumbag record, but we could, we could do it right now during this recording. It's, it's, it's that easy. But bitcoin doesn't, isn't built that same way.

[Host]

So what's the difference between Solana and Bitcoin, because Bitcoin seems to be reputable, but I think it's taking a long time for Bitcoin to become reputable and to have, you know, that solid reputation where it's not just throwing money away, it's actually like an investment. What's the difference between that and the Solana?

[Jack Mack]

Solana is kind of known as the crypto casino. Solana can. Can within their blockchain, process transactions so much faster. And the transaction fee on the Solana network is dirt cheap. It's like a cent even less than that. So that just allows, you know, there's. And also, if I remember correctly, Solana has something called a smart contract or something along those lines. That is huge for meme coins for essentially creating them. And Bitcoin on its initial layer doesn't have it. This would. For a true great explanation, you would need somebody who is like a Bitcoin Marty of sorts, who is a true expert. This is. There's so many, so many minute details to these coins that are insane. But the biggest way and too long didn't read. Solana is essentially the casino of crypto.

[Host]

Okay, yeah.

[Jack Mack]

Just. You go in there.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jack Mack]

And it's the casino.

[Host]

I guess I don't really care that much about the technical difference, now that I think about it. I'm more curious as to like, the overall structure of like starting your own meme coin. So on the Solana platform, you can start your own currency named whatever the you want to call it, just because you have an idea. And the entire premise of starting these new coins is I hope that people will see my catchy name or if it's promoted by an influencer, then they'll buy some of that coin. And there's no Val. There's no actual value being created out of these shitcoins unless you reach like a mass audience like Doge. Right. I guess Doge could have been considered a shitcoin. And then it just became so widely adopted because Elon started like making that his pet project that it actually did have staying power. But for the most part, the goal is start your fly by night coin and then cash the fuck out at some point. And anybody that was early investing is going to make money. Anybody that was late investing is going to take a bath.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah, that's a. That's a pretty good recap. Sometimes people will create these coins with the idea of creating a community where that is the value of the coin. You kind of see with jail still to an extent There's a Twitter group that people are in and then. But the difference in the value of a bitcoin opposed to a coin you create for your dog is, is massive. Just because bitcoin, I mean, in theory you could accept payment for, through your dog, through a Sal. A Salana shitcoin meme coin about your dog. But the easiest way to create these, and this is the point I wanted to bring up the most, is there's this website called Pump Fun, which is essentially is they created a website that connects to the Solana library of sorts and allows you to. Just as long as you have a wallet, which is very easy to create, you connect it to this website and then you can create a coin and it's called Pump Fun. And then if it gets to a certain market cap, which is around depending on the price of, of Solana, which right now it would be around 70,000 market cap, you can get this coin to a bonding curve which then allows it to be pushed out and more widely bought. But Pump Fun got a lot of heat initially because there was a live streaming aspect to it. So you could create your. Your account, create your wallet, create your coin. And then people were going on there and there was kids going on there and just rug pulling people and giving them. There's a. There's a photo of a kid with like the broccoli haircut going like this that you may have seen on crypto Twitter that. And they had to. Because kids were going on there and saying, if you don't get my coin to a certain market cap, I will. I'm going to kill myself. So they had to turn off the live streaming aspect of Pump Fund. But right now, if you go on Pump Fund, I'm looking at it right now and you can go to sort creation time. And there's the most recent. The most recent one is Sigma Pope and I. That's because people try to latch on to memes and current events and obviously the Pope has these. He may be on his last days, which is unfortunate and we would hope he isn't. But they're, they're latching on to the idea that if the Pope dies, then my meme coin could go to the. To the top.

[Host]

Okay.

[Jack Mack]

But as I've been Talking, there's been 30 meme coins created on Pump Fund.

[Host]

So you use the word community. What the fuck does community mean? To me, it seems like it's a word that's thrown out there a lot just to make people think like, hey, yeah, it's safe to invest in this, because we're a community of people that all want to make money on this coin together. Like why. Why does everybody talk about community?

[Jack Mack]

Well, this kind of goes back to what Dave's saying, that everyone's trying to make money and you're kind of at the casino. And there's. There's one way to describe community within the crypto world, specifically Solana, is if you look at the commute, people will say there's a community takeover, quote, unquote. And a community takeover is when the developer of the coin sells all of his money. All of his coins, and then the community takes it over. This happened yesterday when Dave launched his coin greedy. He was the developer, right? The dev. He ended up selling off all of his coins. And then there was a quote, unquote cto, a community takeover. And there was a call within these telegram, group chats, Twitter, to send greed, which Dave sold. And usually when the developer sells it tanks to send it higher than it ever was because there was a community takeover. But what is a community? I guess that's up to for your definition, because the Solana Network and Shitcoins is a player versus player. It's a PvP network. People win and people lose. It's not like the stock market. There is people winning. Well, obviously people lose in the stock market, but if you're winning in the Solana crypto exchange, somebody's losing for the most part.

[Host]

Yeah, it's a zero sum game. You're just.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Host]

On the winning side of it. And to. To have like a massive one. Massive. When Arian just joined us. Aaron, we're talking, we're talking coins with Jack Mac right now. It. It just seems to me like there's like, it's a wild west right now. It's not regulated at all. And I heard that call that the, the developer of Malay. I think he was involved in Milani as well. The call that he had Hayden. Yeah. With. With Coffee Zilla, where he was trying to describe Aiden.

[Jack Mack]

That call.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jack Mack]

Is one of the craziest calls. Like it's truly insane.

[Host]

Right. So it's an unregulated space, technically. Right. But also I'm hearing people say that he admitted openly to like 25 legitimate crimes.

[Big T]

I see that often. I see they're like this guy just admitted to a crime. And it seems unlikely to me. I see the names of these people. You said Coffeezilla. Like, I see that guy's name. I see there's another coffee. There is.

[Host]

I'll stand up for Coffee Zillow for a second. Because, yeah, it's a weird name. You think like, oh, Coffeezilla. He's like a. Another one of these, like, fly in, fly out scam artist kind of guys. It's not a great name for like a serious individual, but he's a very, very good researcher when it comes to, like, uncovering scams and figuring out the truth behind stories.

[Big T]

I was just gonna say. All I was gonna say is it seems unlikely to me that these people are admitting to all these questions. Crimes on camera, but maybe I'm wrong. I. I genuinely have no idea about any of this shit whatsoever.

[Jack Mack]

So it's impossible to tell the story without Trump coin. And obviously Trump's new, new doj, which Trump Coin essentially told the crypto community that crime is on the table. And if you're gonna. So that's why Hayden Davis, which supposedly is not his real name, which most people in the crypto community are anonymous, but this guy obviously went on Dave's with his. People know who he is. They don't know his real name. I think an Argentine Argentinian TV network reached out to United States and the United States confirmed there's nobody by the name of Hayden Davis. That is, there are people named Hayden Davis, but there are not there. This guy is not Hayden Davis. The Trump coin, very much so. And it's. Hayden talked about it with Dave and then on the coffee Zillow call, may have been a scheme, allegedly a scheme that was rewarded a lot of his, and this has been speculated from the get go, rewarded a lot of his donors and other people within the crypto community. And that is technically something that could have been investigated by the SEC while Biden or somebody else was in charge. But now why would the SEC go after Hayden Davis, even though I don't even know if he's an American citizen, if the crimes that Hayden Davis did are very similar to insider trading that Trump may have done with the Trump coin and Melania coin.

[Host]

Right, so. So back to the Trump coin that was launched right before inauguration.

[Arian Foster]

Right.

[Host]

I think it was on a.

[Jack Mack]

It was on a Friday night.

[Host]

Friday night, yeah.

[Jack Mack]

It was during the crypto ball and he launched it. And at first people thought his Twitter was hacked, but no, it was not. And then it went up to, geez, like 50, 60 billion market cap and went down. Now I think it's around 15 and it's. And that was. People in the crypto community loved it. But what really turned people off of it was the Melania coin, which was launched on Sunday I believe so.

[Host]

The. The Trump coin. I also heard on that call that. That Hayden did with Coffee Zilla, Hayden said that there were people that were given access to buy the Trump coin before it hit the open market, in which case that sound. I don't know if that's a crime. I don't know if any of this shit actually has laws written around it. But that, to me, it sounds like a crime. And it also. He seemed like he was scared, like he was putting it. He had a target on his back because he was divulging that information. So there was allegedly insider trading for that. Some people allegedly close to Trump made a ton of money off that. Then the Melania coin comes out. The Milani coin was put out by the same people that were involved in putting out the Trump coin, but it was more. You could see that there was a higher percentage of the coin owned by a smaller percentage of total wallets, meaning that there were some whales that controlled like 80% of it. And they were like, hey, this is kind of fucked up. This is a bad way to structure a bullshit currency. And then that caused a lack of faith in the Trump coin. Then the same guy Hayden was put in touch with, Javier Malay, the President of Argentina. He went down there, hosted a crypto conference down there where they were allegedly selling access for people to just meet with the president. It's like, yeah, if you pay us, you know, 10, $20,000, whatever it was, we'll get you, you know, a little conversation with. With the prez and this guy convinced Malay and his team we're going to put out a coin called Libra Coin. And the Libra coin was announced as a way to, like, help benefit the Argentinian economy and to help small businesses in Argentina. Do you have any idea how that was supposed to work in the way that they phrased it?

[Jack Mack]

I think you summed it up very well. The only thing I would add is Hayden supposedly, and this came out yesterday, supposedly was in contact with Malay's sister, and he said in a leaked text message that he, quote, unquote, controls that N word. And obviously Hayden is white. So. And this is like undertone of the entire meme. Like, it's. So it's an unregulated space from a casino aspect, but also it's an Xbox Live chat room come to life with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line. I mean, even more billions. And somehow this guy gets in contact with the sister, then says he controls melee through that, and then he's. He launches this coin and Melee supposedly, or not even supposed it.

[Host]

It.

[Jack Mack]

He launches it on Friday night of Valentine's Day. It. The coin, the. The tweets up for a long time. Then he deletes it and he says, I'm sorry. Then he does this interview and he says, hey. He pretty much says the Dave Portnoy line. There's no crying in the casino. There's not that many people that lost money, and the chances that they were Argentinian is also very small. So I don't feel bad. And then this guy, Hayden Davis comes out and says, like, hey, I'm the guy that's really facilitated this. And for some reason, it's kind of like that scene in the Big Short where there he's. Steve Carroll is. Is going up to. I forget who he's with. It's with those douchebag guys who were, like, selling houses to strippers.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jack Mack]

And he was like, why are they admitting to these crimes? Like, why are they. Why are they telling us this? And they said they don't know that it's crimes. He almost kind of had one of those incidents where he just kind of goes on Coffeezilla, spills the beans, and then he goes on Dave's. Dave's Show Day to Day Trader on Monday morning and also says more things that kind of said, hey, I was also. Or I know who's behind the Trump and Melania coin. And there's a lot of insider access, pre sale, token access. And this is really rampant. And this is kind of created this huge disbelief in Solana, which you can see in the currency rate at which it's selling against the US dollar as it's going down. It was up at $245 at the peak of Trump. Even higher, I think 250. Now it's down to 170.

[Host]

Yeah. I mean, this whole thing sounds like just you lock a bunch of scammers in a room with knives, and then they all try to kill each other, and then when they get killed, they get stabbed. They're like, that motherfucker, I can't believe he stabbed me in the back like that. As you were trying to stab somebody else, it seems like that's what. Like, why. Why is this not regulated at all? Because in the. In the same conference call or the call with coffee Zilla Hayden was making the argument that you should not regulate it, because if you try to regulate it, then the regulators might become corrupt, which seems to me like the biggest bullshit excuse. Like, you know, yes, I'm sure there would be some corruption if you look at global finance as it is right now, the people who are in charge of regulating bankers, regulating currencies, things like that, there is some corruption there. There's probably a good amount of corruption that's out there, but it's net positive on it because it limits the bigger corruption that if you just let everybody play with no rules, that's going to be a much, much, much worse solution. But the crypto guys are like, don't even try to regulate it because it's impossible to regulate because you'll become corrupt just like us.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah, that's a really good recap and explanation. But also you have to remember that most crypto people are anti regulation. That's why they're in crypto.

[Host]

Right.

[Jack Mack]

And a lot of people kind of have this start within crypto, which is you buy Bitcoin and then you find out these other things. Like most people, I think in the salon, a kind of casino right now, like there's people. I owned a lot of Solana and I owned it for a while without ever trading a shitcoin meme coin. And you can do that. You can have a belief in the, the system and say, oh, hey, look, this is a currency I don't want to. I would just call. This is a cryptocurrency that has a lot of activity on it. It's almost like, oh, I'm not a big gambler, but I believe in the gaming industry in America and you invest in DraftKings or something. But a lot of people within crypto and within Solana and within the Solana casino, they're huge believers in anti regulation. They, there are a lot of people that are against the system because why would you invest a lot of money into cryptocurrency if you were a big believer in the current financial system? So I get what Hayden's saying. But also the downside to no regulations is a lot of people get killed. But the only thing is, and this is what Dave's been saying, and I think you said for the most part, if you get in this game, like if you go to the casino and you, you, you get 18 on a 21 on blackjack. Right. And you hold and then the dealer gets 21. I mean, it's just, it is what it is. You lose, but there's more regulation to that casino. You know, the odds there's not somebody, there's not. The dealer doesn't get a bunch of people behind him with better cards than you.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jack Mack]

And more that's more likely to win.

[Host]

When you start, so.

[Jack Mack]

But then again, you know this, though. If you thought you were going to buy this cryptocurrency from the. Now, the president of a country is different, Right. Then again, you know, but if. Let's. Adam22 launches a coin, right?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jack Mack]

If you thought, like, everyone who bought that coin is trying to make money, and if you lost money, you lost money. Like, it's not like you can't. Going and crying to the authorities is a little bit like, you went to the casino and you, you put it on red and it came out black.

[Host]

It's probably worse than that. It's like you go to a Casino and Adam22 is running the roulette wheel, and when he puts the ball on the thing, he pulls a big curtain over the wheel, and then he tells you that you lost. Like, I, I, I kind of had the same take about the hawk to a coin which, like, I, I kind of feel bad for people that got duped and, and lost money. Like, that sucks. That, that sucks for them. But you tried to invest in a form of currency that was invented by Haley Welsh.

[Big T]

The hawk to a girl. Call her by your Hawk to a. Well, spit on that thing.

[Host]

Welsh, you, you said, I believe that this coin has the opportunity to change global finance. And I don't say that you deserve to have all your money taken from you.

[Big T]

Say it. You want to say it, Say it.

[Host]

I've, I've. I can't find any sympathy. I can't find sympathy.

[Big T]

So they deserve it.

[Host]

I can't, I don't know if they deserve it, but I can't be sympathetic to them.

[Big T]

You do know, though? You do know.

[Host]

It's like, that's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.

[Big T]

I would imagine so. Jack. I, this, this Hayden character. So I saw some. I, I think it's real. It looked real. You can tell me some texts where he was basically saying, like, he controls Melee, like the president of our sister. How does he know them? Is this guy's like an American, right?

[Jack Mack]

Well, it's unclear who, who owns who here or who. Where Hayden's from. I think he kind of likes that. No one really knows. How did he do this? These guys are schemers in ways that we can't even comprehend. Like, they, he may have bought her, maybe just bought her, went to one of her dinners and then said like, hey, like, I have an idea. And they, they come to. It's kind of funny. Hawk to her was the face of this, but she kind of scammed in, like, less than any of like, she's kind of vindicated in a way, because all of these people keep coming out and getting presidents of countries getting scammed by these people. And I don't know exactly how he met Melee's sister, but what a. A brutal miscalculation by Melee because he was somebody that a lot of people were fans of. And now this is the aspect of this. You can make a quick buck, but you can really ruin your reputation in a widespread way while launching a coin that is in a negative way. I haven't really seen a coin launched in a great. Everyone comes in the space and says, I'm gonna do it the right way. And then they all kind of.

[Host]

It keeps happening again. It's Sideshow Bob stepping on the rakes over and over and over.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah, it just keeps. It's like, I'm gonna do this the right way. Like, I'm the guy. It's. It's. A celebrity thinks. Every day, celebrity thinks they're going to be the one that's going to launch the right coin. But the closest one we got was probably the Trump coin because they locked the. The locked the coins that the Insiders got for 90 days, the members of the team. So people are like, oh, there's a belief here. But then two days later, they launched the Melania coin. So there wasn't even the. It's. It's all a failure. It's the. I've never seen one coin that's done well. They all look like this. They go whoop down. Like, it's just straight up, straight down, and then they're gone. Dead.

[Host]

Yeah. Aaron, I. Curious to hear what questions you might have about. About the shitcoins and all this. I just. I just, like.

[Arian Foster]

I don't understand people in general, but, like, with this. This makes no sense. Like, this just seems like it's like people are willingly participating in a scam day after day after day. Like, you know, they gonna get scammed. You know you're gonna get scammed. I know I'm gonna scam you, but it. That doesn't matter. And that's fascinating to me. I guess the only appeal is it has some technology to it. I, like, I really don't know. It's. It's very. It's fascinating. I'm not. I'm not gonna buy no coins. I'm not coming out with no coins. It is one of the stupidest things I've ever witnessed. But I guess the question is, like, what's the end goal? Like, what's the logical end to all of this. Like, is it just. Are we forever gonna see people get scammed by these coins? Or is like, is it gonna amount to something? Like, okay, we're gonna have a crypto, I don't know, global community where we actually can sell and try. Like, I don't know. What is the end goal to this shit of this habitual scamming? I don't get it.

[Jack Mack]

So I think one thing that is very important here is there's shitcoins and there's stuff such as bitcoin that is very, very important in the global scheme of finance, economy and countries. I mean, we see it all over countries throughout the world. Currencies are. They're kind of shit currencies and they get devalued overnight. There's bank runs, and these are in countries, third world countries, and it's awful. And there's a lot of aspects of bitcoin that are. Are very positive for the world as a whole. It's a stable currency. Obviously, it can go up and down, but it's. It's stable in the way that it's going to be there. There's backing behind it, there's technology. There's a community behind it, much more so than even governments within these countries that have scammed their own citizens. But what's the end goal of these Solana shit coins? I think it's just a casino. I think it's kind of. It's an unregulated casino. And unfortunately, I think it. It may be a net negative for crypto as a whole, because people like yourself may have been open to the idea of, oh, here's bitcoin. Here's something that if I wanted to send to somebody, it takes away a lot of these financial institutions that have really screwed American citizens, citizens across this world. I mean, if there's somebody in this country that comes to America and works in America to send money back home, they have to pay a huge fee through Western Union or something else. Now. There's more apps out there now, but back in, like, even recently, you still have to pay a huge fee. There's credit card fees. Bitcoin can eliminate that. And people get more money. They have more money and they can send it and it goes and it gets. You can get it like that. That's something that's really positive. But what's not positive are these Solana shitcoins that are kind of. It's a casino. I don't think there is an end game outside of what we're witnessing right now. This is the end game. People think they can make money, and some people do, but as Hayden David said, you have to be an insider. That's how you make money. Like, if you really want to make a big time, a big time money, you have to be an insider. And there's not a lot of insiders in this world.

[Host]

One of the wildest things I saw with people that were talking about, like, how, how these coins are promoted was a screenshot of a text saying, okay, here's all you need to do. You tweet out the, the address, you tweet out the name of the coin, and then you leave that up for four hours. And then later you can delete that tweet and say that you were hacked afterwards. And I. There's probably been a lot of people that have done that. And those, those are somehow the biggest dirt bags out of everybody because they're fucking over their audience and then acting like their hands are clean, that they're a victim just like everybody else. But they're actually, they're being instructed that this is one way to do it where you can act like you weren't a part of it at all and you can still make money off of it.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah. And it's ironically enough, Kanye west was the one that tweeted out about that and kind of showed that scam. And I, I don't know why that it. I would. If any celebrities listening to this that's. Has a big audience, even if you have an audience that is in celebrity status, don't launch a coin unless you're, like, willing to take the backlash. Dave, I don't think cares, but if you're somebody that's in the middle of your career and you need, well, your reputation matters. Don't launch one of these things now if you want to play with it for fun. Yeah, but like launching a coin specifically with the. Most of these people within this industry do not have your best interests in mind. They want to get in on the ground floor and buy 2 million tokens at $40,000 market cap, and then it shoots up to 5 million. They sell it off, and then they just say, fuck you, and then they disappear. These are. They like these people, they make $10 million in five minutes and they say, see ya. And then they probably will come back three years later, run the same scheme with another celebrity under a different name, a different alias, and then do it again. I mean, this is the ulta, the crime. And this is kind. It's unfortunate, but crime is legal on chain. No one's going to jail. There may be some lawsuits, but I don't think anyone's going to jail. At least with Trump in, in power right now, because Trump did it himself.

[Host]

Yeah. I feel like Milei, he, he might have some serious political consequences, though, because.

[Jack Mack]

The way he's structured in your reputation, you could, you can see it right now with Dave. People are people. The crypto community right now wants to form a revolution against Dave.

[Host]

Well, they hate everybody, don't they? No disrespect to the crypto community, but kind of like you, you guys do hate everyone.

[Jack Mack]

They liked Dave, though, at first. They really turned against him yesterday.

[Host]

Oh, when he launched his, his own.

[Jack Mack]

Coin and then he sold it after saying, I'm not going to sell it.

[Arian Foster]

But.

[Jack Mack]

These are people that don't know Dave. They. But yeah, no, the crypto community right now, and one of the crypto community works in Twitter and then telegram groups. These telegram groups will, Will make your life hell for like, I, I've heard, like, I'm sure there's telegram groups out there right now that are trying to think of ways of hacking Dave's crypto wallet and trying to tank his, his valuations, his everything. These people, it's really weird, though, because they almost want to get in on the crime before everyone else so they can make their money, but if then they don't, then they, they kind of. It put point and they go like, you're a criminal, you're a criminal. But then the response is, you were trying to make money off of my crime but couldn't.

[Host]

Yeah. So, okay, this is going to probably expose me as being a noob to the crypto scene, but why is it legal to make your own currency? That, to me, seems like one of those things that should have been written down as a law at some point, right?

[Jack Mack]

Yeah. But why is it legal? It's because you like, on Pump Fun, all you got to do is connect a. All you have to do is connect a wallet and you can create an anonymous wallet right now. And how. It's kind of like, how do you regulate the Internet? That's the question.

[Host]

Right, Right.

[Jack Mack]

I guess there could be. I'm sure Pump Fun is illegal in certain countries. I, I would just assume so. I, I don't know. But now why is it legal? I, I think that's kind of a. It may be illegal to even do it. But David Sachs has said that this isn't currency. These are collectibles, hobbies, kind of similar to sports cards, which is. I get what he's saying. But also, I think that was kind of the COVID Trump's ass. And David Sachs is the crypto czar, right? I believe that's what Trump's called him. I think that's what they call him, the crypto czar.

[Host]

What is a collectible? How can you define that as a collectible? Is like a series of numbers and letters that you can look at on your phone screen occasionally, I guess.

[Jack Mack]

I guess they just say it's a digital collectible. It's kind of similar back to the NFTs, where it's like, why. Why do they have value? Well, other people say they have value, that's why. But there's no real utility to them. You could, I guess, get loans off of them. But still, then it's. Yeah, it's. It's all quite confusing. I, I think when people think about this and they'll say it doesn't make sense, I, I kind of agree. To me, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but people have agreed upon.

[Arian Foster]

Feels like it's just like a treehouse. It's like a. It's like a clubhouse. And if you're in it, you got the secret. Get secret handshakes and secret codes, and you guys just go off and do your things. But everybody outside of it looks like, what the are y' all doing? And they're having. They're having a blast. That's what it looks like said.

[Jack Mack]

And then also you're, you're very. It's. That's a really good analogy because there's a tree house. And then think of it kind of like there's. It's. There's a tree house, but then below it there's a. The people. And then there's people that are kind of trying to listen all the time to what the tree house is talking about. And then if you hear what the treehouse is talking about, you can get in early enough because for the. The cryptocurrencies to get value, Melee has to tweet it, right? He has to tweet it. So people who saw the tweet within. I mean, I saw the tweet within 30 seconds, so I bought it immediately, and then I cashed out five minutes later. But if you. So people within the crypto community, it's kind of known. It's like you don't. You're not supposed to sleep. You're just supposed to be on your computer the entire time. You're trying to find the next hidden gem. You're trying to find the next melee coin. And if you're fast enough, you can do it. But it's also.

[Arian Foster]

If you.

[Jack Mack]

If you're 30 seconds late, you're. You're late. If you're a minute late, two minutes late, you may lose now. And if you went to the bathroom, it's, it's, it's. It's really. It's quite something. It's these. Some telegram groups. These guys are talking all day. They're sending coins all day. And then they just. They're essentially like, if you don't get in soon enough, don't even buy it, you're gonna lose.

[Arian Foster]

It's like, if I'm understanding this correctly, if we go. And keep with the treehouse analogy, the people that are listening into the treehouse. The people in the treehouse are robbing people. And people are listening to treehouse or waiting on for their chance to rob people. That's what it sounds like to me.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah.

[Host]

To.

[Jack Mack]

To an aspect. Yes.

[Host]

This is hilarious. But they're also robbing the people. They're also robbing the people that they're talking to about. That's what I'm trying to rob. The people in the treehouse, they're like, yo, y'. All.

[Arian Foster]

Are y' all trying to rob everybody?

[Host]

Like, yeah.

[Arian Foster]

And then chance.

[Jack Mack]

There's a slow trickulation where it's kind of like people who aren't close enough to the treehouse, then they'll hear about it and they think they're on the inside. So the insiders are taking from the people that think they're on the inside. And then there's other. There's just a bunch of layers. And you're right, a lot of people are just taking money from other people because they'd say, as PFT said, it's a zero sum game. It's PvP and the robbers robbing the robbers.

[Host]

This shit is hilarious.

[Jack Mack]

And it just keeps going and going and going. And there's this idea that if you just. All you need is one. Like, all you need is one trade, man. And if you get that one trade, because it can multiply in a way that is crazy. If you get in. If you got in on the me, like, coin at, like sub 100k, which would have been close to impossible, but if you did, and it goes to 4 billion market cap, there's some people that if you put enough in, you could retire off of that.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jack Mack]

Which is insane to say, but people hear that and they think, oh, I can do it. I can make it. It's this is me. I can do it and most can't. I. I don't know if there's any. Ever been a study done, but how many people end up losing in the Solana Casino? I would assume it's very similar to the casino in general. Like 99% losers. 99.5.

[Host]

So they're all rug pulls. That's to me what it sounds like. Like every single coin is a rug pull. It's just a matter of when you decide to cash out. If you get in early.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah. Then there's that community takeovers aspect where then there's not. Nobody could really rug pull. But there you always kind of rug pull, even if you have a small amount. Like anytime the price goes down, it's a. It's a rug pull because the price goes down based off of sale. Like buys and sells, obviously. But if there is a community takeover and the developer and the team behind it has sold off all of their coins and then it's. There's a takeover and it. The community, the cto, if all of the community decides at the same time. But it's really even hard to rug.

[Host]

Pull because also, let's just. Let's just reset the table here. None of this stuff actually exists.

[Jack Mack]

Correct. Like, it only exists on the Internet.

[Host]

Right? None of this. None of this. None of these things that we've talked about are real things that you can do anything with besides change them into different forms of currency. And the Forex markets, I think a lot of people know people that have gotten into Forex trading, like in college or right after, and they're like, oh, all I have to do is time. Like the value of currency increasing or decreasing. That. That made a lot of people lose a lot of money too. But this is somehow like a thousand times worse and more dangerous than the Forex trading. And none of this stuff actually exists. It's just like, here's a funny name. Buy into my. This is a scam coin. It's definitely a scam fuck you pay me coin. And then people are like, yep, I'm in. I got it. On the ground floor of the. This is not a scam coin. Or this is a scam coin. Fuck you pay me coin. I'm gonna be rich as fuck. And then they're like, oh, fuck, I got rug pulled.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, that's what I don't understand. I've seen. I've seen videos of dudes crashing out, surprised that they got robo. I can't believe you did this to me.

[Jack Mack]

Oh, my God.

[Arian Foster]

Like, what the did you expect name a corner hasn't done this. All of them do this.

[Host]

I'm sure there's some community.

[Arian Foster]

Like, it's just hilarious.

[Jack Mack]

No, you, Aaron, you are, you are right. I saw some people yelling like that at the president of Argentina. I think a lot of those guys know if they crash out, it gets a lot of clicks. So then people like you can sell how to. There's. So there's a whole ecosystem here, right? If you are, if you crash out and you say, oh, like I lost 150000 on melee coin, that means you had $150,000 lose. They probably didn't lose that much money, but let's just say that's what like it's, that's their scam. And then people follow them on Twitter and then they'll send, they'll. They'll. They'll say, hey, it costs 50 bucks a month to join my telegram group. And then in the telegram group they'll send their, their buys for, for coins. And then they're saying like, hey, like I get inside information. You can copy my trades. It's kind of like, hey, I'm a. I'm the Jim Kramer. But it's a, it's a lot different. And then eventually some of those guys that sell telegram groups and how to get rich in Solana coins end up scamming their own communities because they build up trust over six months and then they are in on a coin and then they have their community send it and then they rug pull it and then they just, they cease to exist. They say bye bye. So there's this whole ecosystem. It's, it's, it's not just people throwing darts. There's. There's people following on Twitter. There's people that's like the amount of people that have send me, sent me stuff that are saying that say, hey, buy this coin. This coin is going to go up. The, the, the service dog hurricane who died last night, Rip his coin.

[Host]

He doesn't have a coin.

[Jack Mack]

But the dog Hurricane dog coin went up to around 400,000 last night market cap. Then it went dead. But then the White House tweeted out RIP Hurricane and it shot up to 5 million. And now there's another. And then the thing is, there's the hurricane coin justice for hurricane that was doing really well. Oh no, no. Rip Hurricane was doing really well and it got shot down because then a lot of people in another telegram community created a justice for hurricane coin and. Or no, sorry, yeah, a justice for hurricane coin. And that devalued the other hurricane coin. It's all just one big. I know I seem like that guy from Always Sunny that's at the board saying all of these things. It's. I sound insane, but this is how this world works. It makes no sense. And people scam and they try to go viral and then they're on Twitch. They. They.

[Arian Foster]

It's.

[Jack Mack]

It's endless. It truly is that endless.

[Arian Foster]

It actually does make sense. It's. The picture is very clear to me. This is exactly what our society deserves it.

[Jack Mack]

That's fair. That's 100.

[Arian Foster]

This is the end result of a bunch of. A bunch of entertainment ghouls attempting to go viral to sell that social currency, to capitalize off it. This shit is like horse semen. Like if. If for somehow I find a. A lick, I get lucky enough to hit a lick, all of a sudden I have that social. I got. I got the. That's the dude. He knows what's going on. So now I got a telegram group telling people. You know what I'm saying? It's fucking hilarious. This is. If you invest and lose your money in this, you deserve every bit of pain and anguish that comes. I'm sorry, this is. I enjoy everybody getting rug pulled. I don't care. This is hilarious.

[Jack Mack]

It is the. If somebody was.

[Big T]

It's.

[Jack Mack]

If you go back to when the Internet was created, I'm sure there was a lot of doomsdayers about the Internet talking about how this is going to be bad, this is not going to be good for society. This is a great example of the downside of the Internet.

[Arian Foster]

They were right, by the way.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. And like downside of social media and it's. And it's in our human DNA or not. Maybe not human DNA, but since society, there's always been get rich quick schemes. Right. I'm sure there were some in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and PFT brought up the Forex. I'm sure everyone's seen the videos of Forex. Everyone has a friend after college, they got in the Forex and would they draw the lines on the chart there? It's very similar. It's kind of. It's. It instead of the. The only difference is Forex, It's. It is foreign exchange. Like there are. There are foreign currencies and they're not going to go up and down that much. You can't even have communities like that in the crypto. I guess they are. They do exist in telegram, but you can't meet at your local community college and draw lines because they go, they come and go so quickly. Yeah, but it's a get rich scheme. It's the new get rich scheme.

[Host]

It is. Again, this I kind of agree with Aryan where it's like, yeah, if you, if you invest in this, I'm actually like, I'm concerned too because I know where, I know how the Internet works. I've been online for quite a bit of time. We work at one of the most online companies in the world. If the whole premise of these coins gaining value and popping is based on like viral moments, what's to stop people from creating a coin about something really up that they're about to do and then doing that thing, knowing that in turn it'll be tied to that coin and then a bunch of online will then invest in that coin and make wow, buck off it.

[Arian Foster]

I, I'm, I'm gonna keep it a beam, bro. I'm not even sure you want to put that out there because that's a great idea. You know that I'm gonna ask might.

[Host]

Do people, people have definitely thought about this.

[Arian Foster]

I don't know that they have. I, I know that you're. If you were a bad, if you're.

[Host]

A bad guy, like, right.

[Arian Foster]

It'd be dangerous, man.

[Jack Mack]

No, I mean, and that's a hell of an idea. I alluded to a little bit earlier with the Hayden Davis guy when he was talking to about controlling Melee through his sister. He said, I own that nword. Obviously he's a white guy. The there, there's no morals in this community and it's not just rug pulling. It's everywhere. You know, you've seen like back the, the meta of racism, homophobia and whatnot was huge in the crypto coin community a few months ago, but it's still like the meta with the coins. Like there was a lot of really, really bad coins. I mean there was George Floyd coins. There was, I think there's a George Droid clone coin of sorts that has huge money in it. So I, I you. The human aspect of it is kind of thrown out the table. And you're right, pft. That could happen. And it's already been seen within this community that there is no morals or people feeling bad about investing in a coin that says like, you know, all f words must die. Like people.

[Host]

Right.

[Jack Mack]

All it takes for a coin to go up is more people to invest. And they will invest. They don't care. It's not like, oh, I'm opposed to that though. I assume Bonnie Blue will launch a coin at some point.

[Host]

She will minus a thousand on that. She's, she's definitely going to invest a coin. But anything that, that would make national news, like I, I would, I would almost guarantee you that somebody has like thought about this before and been like, yeah, listen. Or like a very mild version of this would be somebody at the super bowl, right? And they plan on streaking during a play and taking all their clothes off and running onto the field. They create like super bowl streaker dick coin. And then this dude runs up and he's waving his dick around on, on national television. There's 300 million people that see it worldwide. That coin then pops. Obviously there's some much worse things that people can do in society than that, but that would be like a mild way of doing it. And I guarantee you that the people that are involved in these types of shitcoins, they don't have like, they, that would, they would not bat an eye at that.

[Jack Mack]

People would buy it. Right. If somebody ran on a field. Not even the field. You're right. Like if somebody, I mean, you're right. I, I mean this is sad and scary to say. I don't know what would happen. But let's say somebody committed like a, like a shooting of sorts and they wore a Solana token on it. I mean, I think the community would invest in it. Yeah, unfortunately.

[Host]

Yeah. It's like making publicity. Publicity at any cost.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah, at any cost. Like I think, I believe nobody would. People would see it as a money making opportunity and I think they, they would do it. There's no evidence, so obviously I'm guessing, but it's unfortunate, but I think that's the best way to describe it. Money making at any cost. Any cost. And they'll do it in any way. And if you can get in on the ground floor of that coin that gets that much national news, there's a lot of people that would do that and I don't think they would care. Like they would take their money and go home.

[Host]

Yeah. I think it's fair to say also that the like, vast majority of people that fuck around in Solana and play in like the crypto space, they're, they're not the kind of people that would do something like that or even, you know.

[Jack Mack]

Oh no, no. But I do think.

[Host]

But if the publicity was out there, the, the facts of the market would indicate that the coin price would go up.

[Jack Mack]

And not to say that it's like the crypto community would do that, but we see now the zizzy and cult, they got connected online. People of that are with really awful intentions in this world are connecting in like they used to connect in chat rooms. Now it's discords and telegrams and they may see it as an opportunity to. Anybody can create a coin. It's really easy. It's almost as easy as a. As it gets. It's just as long as you know how to create a wallet. I could create a wallet for all five of you in the next two minutes.

[Host]

Yeah. Aaron wants to get involved now.

[Big T]

I'm mildly interested now.

[Arian Foster]

I mean like I'm about to rob the out of all these.

[Host]

I don't give a.

[Arian Foster]

Let's do it.

[Big T]

Jack, do you have any coins that you think are on the come up right now?

[Jack Mack]

No, I actually right now something where.

[Big T]

I could like 10 000x my money in like a day would be ideal.

[Jack Mack]

Let's see. Let me. I'm gonna go to. I'm gonna go to my telegram group, see what they've been discussing during this interview.

[Arian Foster]

I'm going to.

[Big T]

All right.

[Jack Mack]

So right now the most recent pull up, the most recent coin that I'm looking at is called. It's called Pain.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Jack Mack]

And somehow it has a 2 billion dollar market cap. I would assume this is boded in a way, but it's called Pain Soul. If we were in on that, we could have made a lot of money. Then there's infinite money glitch if you're involved, if you.

[Big T]

I'm intrigued.

[Jack Mack]

Infinite money glitch right now is at a market cap of 3.7 million. I was considering investing in this before I got on the show. It was around 1 million but I decided not to. The issue with these coins are they come and go so fast. If you do want to do this, you can't focus on any. Anything else. You, you're just looking at the coins like you're just on the chart.

[Host]

You look. You look plugged.

[Arian Foster]

You look plugged in right now. Doug, I ain't gonna look like you haven't slept in seven days.

[Host]

Jack. Mac is half.

[Jack Mack]

Half code but infinite money glitch. But no, I mean I would not suggest I have nothing my holding. Oh actually I own this coin just because it's called.

[Big T]

But it's.

[Jack Mack]

If anybody's interested in that. But outside of that. No, I obviously I. I would say if you look at my crypto portfolio, 99 of it is Bitcoin, Ethereum, chain link, Solana. Then 1% I put aside for some meme coin fun. But that's what we gonna do.

[Arian Foster]

I'm go to Chicago and I'm gonna get the cameras in front of me. I'm gonna walk up to PFC and slap the shit out of him. And he gonna fight back and we're gonna have a PFD slap coin.

[Jack Mack]

Okay.

[Big T]

I was thinking, I was thinking earlier, wolf killer coin for you.

[Arian Foster]

I would have to kill a wolf, though.

[Host]

Yeah, that's the thing.

[Arian Foster]

To make it.

[Big T]

Well, you've said you could.

[Jack Mack]

I mean also, I believe so.

[Arian Foster]

We'll never know.

[Jack Mack]

We're at a point now where a lot of people are saying the Trenches are dead. By that they mean the Solana meme coin things are really bad. You know, you could see it in the price of Solana. It went down big. Before coins like the Hurricane Dog coin would have went up to 100 million market cap. Now they're barely going. People were shocked that Dave's greed coin could only get up to 35 million. They're saying the Trenches are dead. But.

[Host]

But also, this news moves at the speed of light in this community. Like you were saying, like a couple months ago, racism was the meta, but the community has moved on from that. That's a dark time in our past. Acting like it's the civil rights movement of the 1960s.

[Arian Foster]

Like, things.

[Host]

Things move on so quickly that like, who knows what's going to happen tomorrow? Like all those, all the coins that you mentioned earlier. Like, yeah, if you, if you try to go what's based on Jack's telegram channel right now that he's seeing and you invest it tomorrow morning when macrodosing comes out like those, you're. You're already way, way behind. You're going to lose all your money.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah. The Melee coin in an hour went from like $0 to 5, 6, $7 billion. I think even more.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jack Mack]

And then went all the way back down the 200 million after he deleted the tweet. Like now I think it's around there. And then. Yeah, go ahead.

[Host]

I was. No, I was just going to say I. I will say RIP Hurricane, though. Hurricane. Oh, no, Hurricane was a very good boy.

[Jack Mack]

RIP Hurricane 16 years. I think he served with a lot of. In a lot of different presidency. Shout out Rico Bosco. The nice news is nobody within barstool has really launched a coin, obviously outside of Dave, but I meant like more so employees. I wonder who would be the most likely one too. The most likely outside of the people that are in the crypto. Like, let's just say somebody who could get tricked into it, the mincy coin. Yes, the mincy coin would be amazing.

[Host]

Yes, the U. S. Mints. Yeah.

[Jack Mack]

And. And it's like based around the, like I'm bringing the mincy coins to the people. Like it's right before the college world series. I think it, I think, I think it has legs. I'm not gonna sell it on him because I, but I think the minty coin. Don't do that. If anybody's listening, do not do that.

[Big T]

I would buy 10000 Blutman coins right now.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jack Mack]

I Lowkey would. Would believe in a Blutman coin though. I think he wouldn't. But the only thing is he could be tricked by like the Hayden Davis's of the world who trick you into believing in the coin and thinking that it's going to commit, like build a real community. But yeah, no, a Blutman coin of a just or like I know ball coin I think could, could do well.

[Host]

Miny would def. He's the number one choice to get tricked into launching his own crypto. I, I would say probably honestly, Frank the tank coin could revolutionize the world.

[Big T]

He would make a ton of money.

[Host]

He would make a lot. Well, I, I think we all could.

[Jack Mack]

No, I think it's unfortunate but I think you could a lot. You could make a lot of money doing this and you can make your friends a lot of money. But it's such dirty money.

[Host]

Yeah. No, for the record, I will never launch my own coin. I will never invest in a coin. I will never talk online and tell people about a coin that I've invested in. It's because it seems to me like if you have a big audience and you put your own coin out there, I'd say the vast majority of the times, like 95% of the times you're just going to be making money off the people that follow you on social media. And to me that seems like a very, very dirty move.

[Jack Mack]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Now exploiting nice guy.

[Host]

It's. I mean it's a fact. There's probably 5% of the cases where that's not, that's not what the people are doing. But it just be like hey, thanks for following me. Give me your money.

[Jack Mack]

Well, Millay was saying, hey, not that many people lost money on this coin. And among those people, how many of them were Argentinian? Probably 1% but that's not true. Like the, like who follows Milei. But Melee had some aura going. He was, he was a guy that, he had the, the chainsaw. You can disagree with his policies but he had some aura going, but now it's ruined. It's. It's one of the. It's a huge political misstep. He kind of got through the hard times in his early presidency, but this. It was such a bad misstep by him. He shouldn't have done it. And I guarantee the money he made, it's not worth it. Like the. For sure it's not worth it.

[Host]

Jack Mack, thank you for joining us. Really appreciate it. Thank you for educating.

[Big T]

Thank you, Jack. I might send you a couple hundred dollars and see how quickly you can turn it into ten grand for me.

[Jack Mack]

Okay, perfect. Yeah, I would love to do that. Thank you for having me. Always an honor. And thanks for. Yeah, thanks for having me. We'll turn it into 10,000, and then we'll launch the mince coin. The mincy. Bring it to the people.

[Big T]

Will do.

[Host]

All right. That was Jack Mack. Thank you to him for. For joining. Best of luck with raising Bonnie Blue's child as your own.

[Big T]

I'm sending him some money. I'm gonna have him be my shitcoin investor.

[Host]

I will not be touching shitcoins. I recommend to everybody out there that's. Hopefully you learned enough to not with them.

[Arian Foster]

I'm making a pft. Slap coin.

[Host]

No, not. Don't even joke about that. Don't even joke about that.

[Big T]

Should we do a Brandon Walker push coin? Shove coin.

[Host]

Yes, shove coin.

[Arian Foster]

A big T. High noon coin.

[Host]

That would win.

[Big T]

But I don't. I don't want to be involved in this because I see people saying, oh, this is a crime. This, that, and the other. I. I don't want it involved. But if someone else wants to make a big T. Noon coin, I feel like that could go kind of nuclear. I would love to. I would love to get in on the ground floor.

[Host]

Big T. If you start. If you start promoting Big T. Shit coins, I. Again, you got to break me off.

[Big T]

I'm not promoting. I don't want anything to do with that.

[Host]

Yeah, I think I do.

[Arian Foster]

Anybody who's willing to invest in my. And get your ass scammed, I'll. Let me.

[Host]

There's.

[Big T]

I don't care about the. The scamming portion. I just care about going to jail.

[Jack Mack]

If.

[Arian Foster]

Has anybody gone to jail for it?

[Big T]

No. And Jack says they won't. But I. I just see people on Twitter be like, this guy just admitted to a crime.

[Host]

I don't. I don't know.

[Big T]

And I don't know what is and what isn't.

[Host]

I don't know if crimes exist. Crimes might not exist anymore.

[Big T]

Interesting.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Long live the king.

[Host]

Well, at least like bitcoin related or.

[Big T]

Crypto related crimes, the only SEC around these parts now is the Southeastern Conference.

[Host]

Go Vols.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Host]

Who. Who you guys playing on Saturday?

[Big T]

A and M on the road. Big game. Top 10 matchup.

[Host]

Didn't. They just got their ass kicked though, right?

[Big T]

They lost to Mississippi State last night.

[Host]

Yeah, bad, bad loss.

[Big T]

Tough to win on the road in this league. Best league of all time.

[Host]

You think so?

[Big T]

Statistically, yeah.

[Host]

But I just saw a stat that you guys were 500 since like January 4th. Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah. I think they'll probably finish the season 500 too.

[Host]

It's.

[Big T]

It's tough to win in this mid.

[Host]

You guys are mid.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. Okay. That's been a very funny thing. I hope it keeps. I hope people keep falling for it.

[Big T]

The fact that Carl Ravage said that is unbelievable.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Host]

All right, we will see you guys on Tuesday. Maybe. Arian Foster in person.

[Big T]

Some spread love, you guys.