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Wars, Reforms, and Revolutions: The History of Iran | March 5, 2026
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A
I don't know that I can take pride and like, hey, good job, me. Nailed that one. Like, I think my sperm like, sperm me. Let's go, buddy. Like, you were the man. Like, honestly, if you, if you look, if you break it down like millions, tens of millions of sperm and dude, when I was little, I was nasty like that. Like Tavon Austin high school highlights. That's what I was like as a sperm. Welcome back to macro dosing. It's Thursday. It's March 5th, and we're back live. Myself, big T, ARYAN Mad Dog McKenzie. We're going to get into the history of Iran. A an interesting series of empires in Persia. There's a lot of, a lot of cool stuff that we can talk about there. Before we do that. This episode's brought to you by our great friends over at Part of my Cheesesteak. I love part of my cheesesteak. They've got it all going on right now. And if you go to Penn Station subs, you can get the mega cheesesteak, which is delicious. Really good stuff. We're talking thin sliced steak. We got melted provolone, mouth watering cheese sauce. It's all on a perfect toasted hoagie roll. It's a heavy hitter. Cheesesteak. If you want to do it right, get the big cat combo cheesesteak, fries and a drink that's a complete meal. It's available nationwide. It delivers easy game day. Got you covered. Late night. Got you covered. Stop overthinking dinner order. Pardon my cheese steak right now. Use code awl for free delivery. Free delivery on Pardon my cheesesteak dot com. Part of my cheesesteak dot com you can get all the part of my cheesesteaks. And if you want the mega cheesesteak and you're in the area of a Penn Station subs, go to a Penn Station substore or open up the Penn Station app and get it there. But you can get free delivery right now on any sub. Pardon my cheesesteak dot com. Check it out. Okay, we're back. It is March 5th and it's time for another episode of Macrodosing. It's good to be back looking at your guys beautiful faces again. Anything happen since Monday? Anything happened since the last time we talk? Feel like everything's happened?
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B
Yeah, a lot was on Monday right after we recorded.
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A
And again, head on a swivel. Head on a swivel. When we're at war. Well, I guess that's a let's embrace debate. Are we at war? No, we're not at War.
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B
No.
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A
Let me ask you a question, Big T. If, let's just call it Canada. If Canada assassinated Donald Trump, would you consider that to be an act of war?
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B
Yes.
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A
Okay, so we just did that to Iran.
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B
I am, I am not, my life is not like steeped in following all the happenings of Iran. They're not really retaliating against us. Right. They've lobbed some missiles at other Middle Eastern countries for some reason.
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A
They're, they're retaliating against, against lots of places. So like if there's a country where we have a base or Israel has a base that's close by, if they're able to strike it, they're trying to strike it. They're doing, they're retaliating in all the ways that they can right now. But I don't know what else they. Because like, we're not boots on the ground right now. So it's not like their army is like fighting against our army that's invading. It's like they're, they're shooting their missiles, they're sending their drones in retaliation, trying to take out whatever they can.
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B
But if, if this is a war, it's remarkably one sided.
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A
Yeah, true. I mean, yeah, we, we killed.
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B
I don't think they have 50 dudes. Do you think they even have the ability for this to be a war?
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A
Iran has a pretty, they got a pretty sizable standing army.
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B
But I mean, I think we've made it clear.
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A
Well, yeah, this, and that's what I said on Monday, which is like, we can do.
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B
We.
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A
What we just did to Iran, we, we can do that to any country on planet Earth. Like, that's, that's not even a question. We could do that. Like, if we wanted to take out the leader of France, we could do that. If we wanted, if we wanted really wanted to kill Putin, we could kill Putin. So that's, that's like what the US can specialize in is like g. If we really wanted to. Yes, yes. If you gave us like six months, a year to like study him. Yeah, we could take out anybody on planet Earth.
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B
But that would then lead to. China has the ability to engage us in a catastrophic war.
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A
They have that.
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B
Iran I don't think does.
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A
China's got a very large standing army. They've also got nuclear weapons. Iran does not have nuclear weapons. But they do have a big standing army. But I mean, who's their army going to fight? Like, what, what would make it like if more of their missiles got through, then you would be like, yeah, that's it's not so one sided.
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B
I don't know, it just doesn't. It. I mean. So you would say we are officially at war right now.
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A
I think if you're just parsing whether or not it's war, like you're playing a semantics game.
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B
But yes, I think they're important semantics though.
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A
I think so. They can be. But yeah.
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B
We.
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A
We assassinated a leader of a country with hundreds of millions of people. Or what's the. What's the official population of Iran?
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B
It's.
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A
Let me look this up here because I remember Ted Cruz did not know.
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B
Show me.
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A
He was off. I think he said like, Ted Cruz said like 20 million.
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B
You said hundreds of millions.
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A
It's close to 100 million. I know that.
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B
I was gonna say show me 72.
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A
What do we got? I'm guessing 100 million.
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C
93.
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A
And Ted, I think Ted thought it was like 10 million. And then Tucker was like, you don't think it's important to know that it's way bigger than that?
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C
Tucker had like the exact number.
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A
Yeah. And Ted's like, no, I don't understand why that's important. Tucker's like, well, we're thinking about starting a war with it. I think knowing the, the basic facts about a country would be a good thing. Yeah. I would say that if, if we take out a sovereign country's leader and like 50 of his top lieutenants and deputies and high up, higher ups in the government, I think that's war.
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D
We're.
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A
Yeah, we're not like, we're not sending in an army. If your definition of war is like invading another country, boots on the ground with an army, then no, but there's other types of war than just like land.
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B
I agree. Let's just. I think how long this lasts is an important factor. Their ability and.
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A
Their ability to fight back.
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B
Yeah, I was their ability and willingness to retaliate.
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A
So in your mind, it's like if. It's like if we preseason game like and you're playing a college is playing like a preseason scrimmage against if week
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B
one Tennessee plays Chattanooga and beats him 70 to nothing. Yes, it was a game.
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A
Yeah, but was it right?
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B
It was a. It was a tune up of one way traffic that you know. But there was never any threat of anything worsening.
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A
Well, the thing about the United States is we only play road games.
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B
Thank God we.
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A
Oh yeah. That's kind of our thing. We will, we will fight wars, but they cannot be in our backyard. I guess we'll see what happens. With, I guess we've done a lot of stuff in South America and Central America, but, like, since 1812, we haven't really had to defend the home turf. But if we're fighting against, if we're doing this, whether you want to call it war, if you want to call it just like a battle against Iran, it's like, yeah, they are fighting back and they've killed. I don't, I don't know what the total is right now. More than, more than five people, right. From the United States military dead.
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B
Maybe I saw four.
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A
Maybe. Maybe much more than that. We don't know. But I think they've admitted to, like, four or five or not admitted, but stated that four or five servicemen and women have died. So it is like, yeah, it's a, it's an armed conflict. It's a war. They're fighting back. They might not be able to, like, invade the United States on fit. On foot or anything like that, but I think it's a war. All the things that we've done have been acts of war. Like you said, like if Canada took out Donald Trump, if Iran took out Donald Trump, that's an act of war. So, like, we are committing acts of war. But does that necessarily mean that we're at war? I would say it does, yeah.
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B
And that's fine. I. How long do we think this goes on? I think is an important.
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A
I don't know that anybody has an idea. I really don't. I don't. Like, if you've heard, have you listened to what, like, the government's been saying for the last few days?
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B
Ours or theirs?
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Ours. They're just like, they're just saying lots of stuff. They're just saying stuff. I think what the government's plan is and, and say what you want about the Iraq war, but at least they had. They had a plan that everybody was sticking to that they tried to sell for a very long time, and they did it. They showed us the respect of, of thinking that, like, hey, we better have our, our lie put together well, or else people will figure it out in this. We're just, they're just kind of like, saying stuff.
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B
I will say I did not like yesterday when Trump said he was making a joke, he said, well, we took out Khomeini and then we had a list of other guys that we thought maybe could take over, but we killed all them, too. Yeah, Like, I don't like that. We had a list ready to go of who we wanted to. That sounds like a regime change.
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A
Yeah, it because it is like, we were, It's a regime change war. That's what it is. And every time I've heard them say that it's not a regime change war, they just describe what a regime change is. It's like, yeah, that's what, that's what you're doing right now. Like, that's, you took out their top government. I don't think that there was a plan in place for what to do after, or if there was, it was like, we really like this one guy. And if they take a guy that America hand picks and we, like, force him to be their next ruler, what do you think is going to happen to that guy? And we can get into the history of Iran. But that's how you get a revolution where you have hardliners take over, where it's like, no, the radical clerics are going to take over and they're going to make it the same type of fundamentalist government that they had in the past, just in a backlash to the United States. We're not going to let you. Because Iran is like, in Persia, the, the whole area. It's like, I don't know if you know any Persians. Big T. I'm going to paint with a broad brush.
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B
Okay.
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A
I hope that's all right. Because I, I, I know several, like, as very good friends of mine, grew up around like, a, a decent sized Persian community in Northern Virginia. They're very proud people, like, very, very proud people. And not in terms of, like,
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I
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don't know, I, I guess I don't want to, I don't want to say it the wrong way, but they have, they take a lot of pride in their shared heritage as being like, once rulers of the world. And they, even though they love the United States, the ones that are in the United States right now, they despise, like, the current government. And, and they love capital. Again, broad brush. They love capitalism, they love the American dream, all that stuff. But they will still be like, yeah, we don't want the United States, like, telling us who is going to run our country, because that kind of goes against everything that, that they grew up believing. But yeah, I think this counts as a war. And we're doing regime change. We're doing, like, we're playing all the hits. Lindsey Graham, I saw him the other day and he was talking to some reporter and he was like, you know what? This isn't about regime change. This is about revenge for the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut in, like, 1980. But that's when Iran Bombed. I think it was Hezbollah. They bombed the Marine barracks, and then Reagan pulled the troops out and didn't respond as forcefully as a lot of people wanted him to. And. And so now Lindsey Graham's like, yeah, this war is about revenge for, like, we never forgot about those Marine barracks, which was a tragedy. Like, hundreds of people died is bad. But they're just kind of throwing all the. All the excuses at the wall for why we're doing this, and then they're. They're seeing which one sticks. I don't know. That's. That's at least my take on it. And you could make the argument like, they're playing a global. I've seen people say, like, they're playing a global chess match against China because we took out Maduro, we took out the leader of Iran, and that's where they get, I think, between those two countries, like, 40% of their oil or 30% of their oil in China. Like, you don't think that, like, China is going to. Capable of responding in some other chess move? I'm not saying, like, war, but, like, we're just going to provoke China militarily by doing all this. That doesn't seem like that's the reason. Maybe it's a byproduct that we might have a small strategic advantage over China in the very short term after doing this. But I don't think that's. And if you were to tell the American people, like, hey, we're going to bomb Iran and take out their government so that China has to pay more money for oil, I don't think that there's anyone in the United States that would sign up and be like, yeah, let's do the war. Because right now I think the approval rating for this is like, what, 17, 20%? It's very, very unpopular. Even amongst, like, Trump supporters, it's very unpopular.
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D
That's. That's. That's what I was gonna ask is amongst the right, how are they taking his. Because he literally ran on, I'm gonna get you. No new wars.
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Yeah.
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And like, how. How is the right taking this? I don't know. Like, I'm off the grid, kind of. So how are they taking this?
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I haven't seen the most current polls. I'm gonna just pull it up right now. Republican approval, military action, Iran. It's not high. Like, the. The total approval rating for this operation is. Is not high at all.
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Nick Fuentes wants Kamala.
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Does he really?
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Yeah, I did see that Nick Fuentes was saying, just vote whichever Democrats up next which is wild.
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He, he's just like an accelerationist at this point, where he just wants, he wants chaos. The most recent thing I'm saying is it's complicated in terms of Trump supporters, Republicans. Let's see, it's a, maybe it's not as unpopular as they thought. Maybe I saw some, some bad numbers because I'm seeing like 60% are 60 do not approve of the strike in iran, which means 40 do. That seems, that seems high. And it seems like one of those things where, like, if you had done the same poll two months ago, it would be like everybody disapproves, but now that it happens, it's like people are afraid of looking like they don't support the troops, which again, this is the Same Playbook in 2002, 2003. If you don't agree with a war, it means that you don't support the troops, which is like, that's the biggest bunch of bullshit that anyone can ever feed you in your entire life. And it's like if you look back on the last 20 years to the, the best way that you can support the troops is making sure that they don't get killed, captured, injured for bullshit reasons. That's the best thing that you can do.
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B
A Fox News poll had it at exactly 50, 50 with 61% saying Iran does pose a national security threat to the United States.
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Okay.
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And then a CBS poll had 82% of Republicans supporting it.
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82% of Republican support. That to me is, that's, that's crazy high. Like, if you had thought, I guarantee you, you go back six months and you'd be like, do you support a full scale military operation against Iran? They'd be like, no. But now I think here's, here's where we get in trouble is because you start a war, which I think most reasonable people would disagree with, and it shouldn't be unpopular to disagree with it, but you also get some of the Looney Tunes people that start to disagree with it. And then there's a lot of people on the right that are like, well, I can't, I can't agree with anything that Keith Olbermann saying, so fuck him, I'll be in favor of the war.
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B
A YouGov poll had 45% opposed, 36% support, with 69% of Republicans supporting.
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A
Just, I don't think that we have a plan. I don't think that we got a plan on what to do, what the next steps are. Like, I've heard that boots on the ground could be, could be an option. But again, that could also be Donald Trump. Like, he, he doesn't take anything off the table. He, like, you could ask him anything, like, are you going to. Are you going to fire a nuclear weapon at Tehran? And he'd be like, I don't want to take anything off the table. Like, he, he will never do that. So I don't know. But I, I have heard more people say that, like boots on the ground could be. Could be the next up. And I think that that would be a very, very, very bad idea.
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B
Am I out of the loop? It just feels like this came out of nowhere.
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No, for the most part, it's been. It's been building up for the last like six months. I mean, you remember the strikes that we had against.
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B
Well, right. Like a year ago.
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That's the other thing. Like we, we just. We had that crazy raid where we flew. I remember. If you remember, your PFT is playing corners. We.
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We the top gun. The thing.
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Yeah. We flew B2s with the support of F35s across the world and according to our own government, decimated and obliterated Iran's ability to manufacture nuclear weapons.
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B
Right. But that was very contained. It had a stated purpose.
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Yeah.
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We supposedly did exactly what we set to do. And that was the end of that.
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Right.
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Because people freaked out about that for a week or so too. And then nothing came of that.
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A
Well, except for this war now.
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Sure.
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That's what I'm saying.
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B
But this seems to be a completely separate incident.
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It's. It's a separate incident, but it's the same thing. Like, but what I was saying, Big T was like, that was like we were told that that was mission accomplished. Like what a great raid that we obliterated.
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Right.
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Their nuclear facilities. And now. So now why are we doing more? Why are we like fully on board with war with Iran if we just 6 months ago you told us that already accomplished these things.
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B
Well, that's what I'm saying. It seems like a totally different deal.
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It is. I actually so my girl, Caroline Levitt and find her on x.com the everything app. She's always, always be posting. She. She wrote like a list of the reasons why we are at war because she was trying to dispute the regime change narrative. So I think it is probably important to give like the other side to that when we're trying to figure out what we're doing. Here are. Here are the clear objectives. This is Caroline Levitt posted this two days ago. Destroy the Iranian regime's missiles and raise their missile industry to the ground. So like blow up their stockpile of missiles, annihilate the Iranian regime's navy. That to me sounds, that's war, right? Like destroying another country's entire navy.
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Sure.
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Ensure the regime's terrorist proxies can no longer destabilize the region or the world and attack our forces. So I, that's kind of alluding to Hezbollah there, I believe. But I don't know how these airstrikes are targeting Hezbollah. I don't know, stop them from making and using IEDs or roadside bombs
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that,
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like, how are we going to do that? Like, that's. We've been trying to do that in Iraq for 20 years. I don't know how you stop people. That's the entire nature of IED is there's improvised explosive devices. I don't know that we're going to like bomb the slow cooker factory in Iran and then they won't be able to make them anymore. Like confiscate the entire nation's ball bearings and nails. Guarantee that Iran can never obtain a nuclear weapon. Okay, that's, yeah, that's seems like what we've been doing. Preventing the radical regime and its terrorist leaders from threatening America and our core security interests in a clear eyed and necessary objective.
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D
Okay.
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Killing terrorists is good for America. 49 of the most senior Iranian regime leaders have already been wiped off the face of the earth.
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So
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yeah, it does seem like that's a regime change war there. So I don't really understand the purpose. Besides the nuclear weapon one makes a lot of sense. But again, we were told like six months ago that that's what we did with those strikes.
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D
So I don't know much about the Iran nuclear deal that Trump pulled out of. Do you know the reasoning for that? Like, what was his reasoning for that?
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I know a little bit, a little bit about it. So we've been trying to negotiate with Iran for years to stop their nuclear enrichment program, which they claimed was for peaceful reasons, which we thought was, was not for peaceful reasons. They wanted a bomb to counteract the presence of Israel being an atomic power in the Middle east and also so they could threaten Israel with their atomic bombs. So we negotiated with them and part of the negotiation was if they agreed to stop all enrichment and bring in inspectors, like third party inspectors to certify that they were not building bombs anymore, then we had money that we had sanctioned Iran with. Meaning like high up people in Iran had millions and billions of dollars in bank accounts that the US Was able to freeze and say you're not able to spend money, you're not able to send money, because we believe that you're doing these things with your atomic energy and your atomic weapons. In exchange for allowing our inspectors in, we will unfreeze your assets. And that's the leverage that we had, which they agreed to. So then they got a lot of their money unfrozen. We got inspectors checking it out, but then we said, that's not good enough, and we want to just obliterate the entire nuclear program.
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D
But we did have inspectors go.
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There were inspectors. Yeah.
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And they didn't find anything.
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There was nothing.
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Wondering.
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Yeah. I mean, also, like, if you're Iran, there's a chance that you're, you know, you're trying to continue your nuclear program in secret. That's definitely.
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D
Sure.
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I'm not. I'm not saying that, like, we shouldn't be so naive to be like, they. They promised that they'd stop.
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Agree. I'm just saying, like. So I'm just trying to follow the timeline. So we had a. A nuclear deal in place. The Trump administration originally said, it's not enough. Like, we want more access. And so they tore up the deal and then we put sanctions on Iran. Am I understanding this correctly?
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A
We put sanctions on Iran as leverage to make them negotiate with us and allow inspectors.
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D
And no new deal had been done since it got tore up?
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No. We've been working on. There were, like, small arrangements that had, like, incremental things, but no, no, no. Massive new deal had been done.
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All right. And then fast forward to today. We say fuck it and bomb them.
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Yeah.
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D
All right. I just make sure, like I said, I don't know, a whole bunch of. I'm just trying to figure out the timeline.
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That's. I mean, that's more or less it. And there's been. There have been people in our government that have wanted a war with Iran for a very long time. Very long time.
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D
This is. This is my. My intuition is leaning towards that.
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Yeah.
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D
People of that region that we are allied to and people in our government have kind of wanted this for a while.
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Yeah. You go back to the, like, 1980s, 1990s. We've wanted. We've been, like, slowly hinting at wars with Iran for a very long time. So it kind of felt inevitable at this point. And then I also saw Rubio talking about, like, this was a protective strike. We were trying to protect ourselves because Israel was going to attack them. And then we knew that Iran would respond by attacking us because Israel would use some of our intelligence and probably some of our military hardware and definitely intelligence to attack Iran. So then Iran was going to respond to that by attacking us. So therefore we have to attack Iran first to prevent their ability to do that. Does that make sense?
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D
Not me. I mean, I would.
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No, like, if I. Arian, if I told you like what time Big T likes to leave the office and he's got $5,000 cash on him and he's not caring and you really need $5,000 cash. And I'm like, now's the time. Here's where the security cameras point away from. You can get away from it. He's leaving at 4:45. You can go jack him up. And then you steal his shit. And then Big T comes up to me, he's like, what the fuck? Why'd you tell Aaron to do that? And he punches me. That'd be like me saying I'm justified in taking Big T out before you rob him because he was going to punch me if you did it knowing that I gave you the information.
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D
Fair enough.
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That's a very dumbed down way of looking. But that's, that's what Rubio said. Like, I'm not, I'm not making this up. This is what they've actually said like as their, as their explanations for why they're doing this. So. And it could, if it's Democrats that are signed off on it, that I've, I've been not lucky enough, but I've been consistent enough over the years to be like, I just, I am always going to object to these types of, of wars no matter who is in charge of it. So you can't, you can't pin the TDS on me. Trump Derangement Syndrome. It. When Obama, that's the only thing I, I talk about really, when it comes to Obama's politics was the drone strikes and all that. So it's helpful if you're, if you're consistent over the years and your beliefs because you can't get pinned down as being just a hater. All right, so anything else on Iran that we want to talk about before we get to the history of the country?
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D
No, I got nothing.
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A
Okay. We got other stuff in the news too, also. The United States Navy did sink a ship for the first time since World War II with the torpedo. It's pretty crazy. Like we've had all this technology that we've been building up over the years and just have been itching to use it. You haven't really heard about submarine attacks recently.
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B
Sometimes A good old fashioned torpedo.
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That's all it takes. I'm interested to see what happens in the straight of war moves though, like what they're gonna do with, with the oil supplies there, if that's going to be shut down. Because that'd be bad news. Bad news for everyone. Okay, what else we got in the news? Oh yeah, this is, this is a fun story. The Atlanta Hawks. Big T, are you a Hawks fan?
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B
So I was as a child, big Hawks fan. And then over the years, like, I just don't really watch the NBA anymore. If somebody had me list out all my favorite teams, I don't think I would list Hawks on it anymore. I could tell you last time I sat down and watched a full Hawks game.
- [29:04]
A
So, Aaron, have you heard the story?
- [29:06]
D
I've not heard the story.
- [29:07]
A
Okay. The Atlanta Hawks, they plan to have Magic City Night. Okay, okay. Do I have your attention?
- [29:16]
D
You have my attention.
- [29:18]
A
Okay. So at State Farm arena, they were going to do Magic City Monday on March 16th. They were going to give away hoodies, they were going to sell the lemon pepper wet wings. And I don't know what else they had planned, but it seems like that's about it.
- [29:32]
B
That was most of it. TI's performing.
- [29:34]
A
Oh yeah, that's right. TI Concert, Magic City Monday.
- [29:38]
D
And then real quick, shout out to TI Man. He just released a song. He used to be, you know, he's a legend in the hip hop game. Released a song, let him know it's like top 50 in a billboard.
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A
And you.
- [29:50]
D
This aging rap has never really been a thing like that. So shout out to Ti Man.
- [29:57]
A
Great song.
- [29:58]
D
By the way.
- [29:59]
B
How old is Ti now? 46, 45.
- [30:07]
D
Wow. Close.
- [30:07]
B
I would have guessed a little older.
- [30:11]
D
Shout out to that.
- [30:12]
A
So. So Luke Cornett. You might recognize him, Aaron. He's a San Antonio spur.
- [30:20]
D
Luke Cornett.
- [30:21]
A
He. He logged on to medium.com and blogged. He blogged through it and he. He objects vehemently to Magic City Monday. He says the NBA should desire to protect and esteem women, many of whom work diligently every day to make this the best basketball league in the world. We should promote an atmosphere that's protective and respectful of the daughters, wives, sisters, mothers and partners that we all know and love. Allowing this night to go forward without protest would reflect poorly on us as an NBA community, specifically in being complicit in the potential objectification and mistreatment of women in our society.
- [31:01]
D
I see his point, But that I agree. But I see, I see a point. I see how you can arrive to that conclusion. Yeah.
- [31:13]
A
It's interesting because Luke Cornett is. He's not actually playing in this game. It's the Hawks against the Magic and he's on the Spurs. But he. Yeah, he's the one that, that wrote
- [31:22]
B
the blog and Al Horford came out and supported him also.
- [31:26]
A
Al Horford did support. It is objectively really weird that the NBA, that an NBA team is doing like strip club night.
- [31:33]
B
I was certain, I was certain when I saw it it was fake. I've never been more sure of anything.
- [31:40]
D
I, I would be surprised if they're
- [31:46]
A
gonna have like strippers and stuff, right?
- [31:49]
B
I don't believe so.
- [31:50]
A
They're not. I don't think it's mostly about the. It's mostly about the Wings and the TI Concert.
- [31:57]
D
That's what I'm probably. The Wings are always amazing at strip clubs. I don't know what that is. That should be studied. But yeah, like I said, like I said, I see his point. Like, but I mean, I don't know.
- [32:09]
A
I'm just a little bit more liberal
- [32:12]
D
when it comes to that. Like, if you don't like it, don't watch it.
- [32:16]
A
Mm.
- [32:18]
D
There's, there's, there's porn all over the place. If you don't like it. No, watch it.
- [32:22]
B
I do think there is something to be said for like people with kids bought tickets to that game three weeks ago and now it's strip club night.
- [32:33]
D
Don't go.
- [32:36]
B
What if you already bought. What if that was your kid's Christmas present?
- [32:38]
D
If that is the.
- [32:40]
B
If that family in Macon.
- [32:42]
A
Yeah.
- [32:42]
B
They go to one Hawks game a year.
- [32:44]
D
If that, if that is the gripe, they should be able to refund the tickets. I would support that. But other than that, that's fair. Just don't go that. I don't know.
- [32:54]
A
It's.
- [32:54]
D
It's. It's women dancing naked. Like it's. This is not 1950 anymore. Yeah, women are naked. Women like dancing naked. Men like watching women dance naked. This is not a surprise. All the sitting in the stands are here because men like women naked.
- [33:09]
A
I do think it'd be very funny if. If that exact scenario that Big T described existed. Like some, some God fearing family, small town, like two, two year old. We're going to go see the basketball game again.
- [33:21]
B
Seven and an 11 year old boy in Macon for Christmas. Their family has enough money to go to one game a year. They opened up tickets. Hawks and Magic, their favorite. Jalen Johnson. They can't wait. March 16th.
- [33:33]
D
Mommy.
- [33:34]
B
And now it's strip Club night.
- [33:36]
A
Your mama pack sandwiches. Say thank you to Mama. All right, Mama. We'll be back tomorrow. You have a good. What are you going to do today, Mama? Oh, you're on church. Going to church. All right. Yeah, well, okay. We're going to stay overnight. We'll see if there's a church in Atlanta we can go to before the game. All right. We'll be back Monday night. Be safe now. I think this would be what. Then they go to the game. Magic City.
- [34:02]
B
I do. You know, you saw the hoodie.
- [34:04]
A
Oh, the hoodie's nice.
- [34:05]
B
I mean, those hoodies are going to be everywhere. Those are going to be going on eBay for $400.
- [34:10]
A
I wouldn't be surprised if Luke Cornett was. Was getting paid by the Whom. By the Hawks.
- [34:15]
B
Really?
- [34:16]
A
And Magic City behind the scenes, huh? It's like the amount of, you know, he's objecting to. Which again, for the record, like, weird choice for an NBA team to have strip club night.
- [34:28]
B
So. That's what I was saying.
- [34:30]
D
I will admit that I can't believe
- [34:31]
B
that's allowed to be honest with you.
- [34:33]
A
Yeah. I feel like it's. It's Atlanta, they can. They can get away with it.
- [34:37]
B
Yeah.
- [34:39]
A
But I have heard excellent things about the Wings. Like, really? Really. I've heard that they're one of the best in. In the country, so I have to try them at some point.
- [34:51]
D
We're in a fallen state promoting sin.
- [34:55]
B
That's the other thing is if you find this objectionable, which I don't find to be ridiculous at all. There's plenty of other things going on at NBA games that are already. I mean, it's not having strip club night, but, like, they're already traveling.
- [35:11]
D
The Traveling, Yes.
- [35:13]
B
Yeah. The new. The. The step through that everybody's doing.
- [35:16]
A
Yeah.
- [35:17]
B
I mean, there's other stuff going on at professional sports games that is probably not suitable for children already.
- [35:23]
D
I mean, cheerleaders, dog. Like, I've said this for years. There's no point to have cheerleaders. I don't understand it. It is the. It's odd to me.
- [35:32]
A
It's odd.
- [35:33]
B
I think college there is a they've been there for a hundred years type deal and.
- [35:39]
D
But professional for the same reasons, though, right. It was just we're not as. They weren't as brash back then, cheerleaders were. Because older men like looking at younger women.
- [35:51]
B
Yeah, same shit. But professional cheerleader, like. Like the NBA. The dance teams in the NBA, that's different.
- [35:58]
D
Dance teams are different than cheerleaders. Dance Team. There's, like.
- [36:01]
B
They're doing something.
- [36:02]
D
I don't want to disrespect cheerleaders, but, like, dance team. Like, there's. There's real, like. I don't know, because there are cheerleading competitions and I said massage.
- [36:10]
E
I was gonna say they're gonna come for you.
- [36:13]
A
I mean, I don't care, though.
- [36:14]
B
I was just saying, with the. Like you were saying to watch young women, like, they're. They're dressed, you know, provocatively.
- [36:22]
D
Now, I'll tell you this. When I was playing the. The Washington at the time, watch the commanders, they had the best cheerleaders from my.
- [36:34]
B
Really?
- [36:34]
A
Yeah.
- [36:35]
B
It was not the Cowboys.
- [36:37]
D
No, that's. That's overhyped. I mean, listen, they're all beautiful women, don't get me wrong. But, like, I just had an eye for the Washington cheerleaders. It was. I was like, yo, that's different. That's a lot of quality over there. Interesting shout out to them.
- [36:52]
B
Might have been the best thing about the organization at the time.
- [36:55]
A
Yeah, probably.
- [36:56]
B
Terrible stadium, bad team.
- [36:58]
A
Probably for sure. The marching band. I believe we're the only team in the NFL that has a marching band.
- [37:03]
B
Really?
- [37:04]
A
Yeah, yeah, they play. They play the fight song after touchdowns.
- [37:08]
B
I appreciate that. That's something I find missing from professional football.
- [37:12]
A
Not the only team. I just remembered the Steve Smith marching band leader incident from last year.
- [37:17]
B
Yeah, that was last year or two years ago. You told me. That was 2018.
- [37:23]
A
The Baltimore Ravens. Oh, yeah. So I think they're the only two teams then that have a marching band.
- [37:31]
B
Every team should have a band.
- [37:32]
A
I agree.
- [37:33]
D
I agree. You know, another thing, Magic City is kind of like a cultural staple in Atlanta.
- [37:42]
B
The Hawks, in their press release, called it a cultural institution.
- [37:46]
D
It is. When you go to Atlanta, gotta hit up Magic City. Usually now are the younger days.
- [37:52]
A
Are the dancers more talented at Magic City? Do they do, like, the crazy shit? I think.
- [37:58]
D
Honestly, I think what happened was the hip hop scene in the early 2000s moved from, like, New York to Atlanta, and Atlanta became kind of like the hub for, like. I mean, you had Ludacris, you had TI you had Outkast, you had these big acts that were kind of leading the forefront of hip hop. And Magic City was a big strip club in that area, so it kind of just became a staple. I don't know that there's any difference between Magic City and a regular strip
- [38:25]
A
club, but I wonder if over.
- [38:26]
D
I don't say regular, but like a more known strip, because Houston has a lot of very known Strip clubs as well.
- [38:31]
A
Yeah. I just wonder if over the years, like, the, the amount of money that got pumped into Magic City made it so that like the, the top tier dancers, the ones that do the crazy on the polls and like the, the level of talent increase there as well.
- [38:45]
D
I mean, I'll get it twisted. There are some. There are some tricks done on polls that are impressive.
- [38:50]
A
Yeah. Like athletically.
- [38:52]
D
Yeah, just very athletic. Acrobatic. Like, I haven't seen some wild, like, hey, yo, that's. What are you doing here? Impressive.
- [39:00]
A
The move where they, like, let go at the top of the pole and then fall all the way down and catch themselves. Right. Every single time I. I like, sit up, I'm like, oh, my God.
- [39:10]
D
Yeah, it's impressive. It's impressive stuff. But. Yeah, I don't know that Magic City is like, special in a way that. But I just think it's been promoted over, you know, tunes for so many years that it kind of. The prestige grows. The prestige is bigger than the actual institution. But I mean, whoever the owner is, this is a big night for him, so shout out to him.
- [39:32]
B
The ticket prices jumped like 400% when they announced Magic City Monday.
- [39:38]
A
This is the best type of advertisement that you can get.
- [39:40]
D
Those poor kids.
- [39:41]
A
Like, having somebody object to your event on. On moral grounds just makes. It tells you a lot about society that we're like, oh. Some people think that this is like sexist and misogynistic and objectifying. I kind of want to go.
- [39:56]
B
What do you think? The cheapest standing.
- [39:58]
A
Don't get me wrong, like, I, I consider myself part of that crew too. Even though I, I listen, sorry, ladies. I do consider myself an ally. But then you hear Luke Cornett complaining about Magic City Monday and you're like, I gotta see what all the fuss is about.
- [40:12]
B
What do you think a standing room only ticket to Hawks Magic costs right now?
- [40:18]
A
Standing room only ticket.
- [40:20]
D
That's where it's sold out.
- [40:22]
B
I don't know if it's sold out, but. Well, it might be because I'm. I'm looking secondary. Let me see, 115, 145. If you want a seat, it's gonna cost you 180. What about the VIP lounge to get into Magic City? There are courtside tickets going for $12,000.
- [40:41]
A
Wow. Do they have a champagne room at Hawks games?
- [40:45]
B
Probably. Let me see if there's still tickets from the Hawks available.
- [40:49]
D
Magic City.
- [40:50]
A
Yeah, this is. It's going to be a night to remember. I got to get that hoodie, though. The hoodie does look amazing. And I also have to try their wings.
- [41:01]
D
League must protect and esteem women.
- [41:05]
A
I agree. Can't. Can't both be true.
- [41:07]
D
I, that's what I'm saying. I don't disagree with his take. I, I, I, I disagree with him wanting to cancel it. But I understand where you're coming from, brother. I get it. Yeah.
- [41:16]
A
It makes sense.
- [41:17]
D
I just.
- [41:18]
A
I.
- [41:18]
D
If that's what that company wants to do it.
- [41:22]
B
Yes. Ar and the game is sold out.
- [41:26]
D
Hey.
- [41:27]
B
I also think that 180. If you want a seat.
- [41:31]
A
I think it's true that you can. You can want women to be successful and independent and strong and have all the same rights and protections as men do and also still like titties. I don't think. I don't think that those two things are mutually exclusive. I tend to agree.
- [41:53]
D
I don't know. Like I said, as long as two consenting adults are involved, I got.
- [41:59]
A
I got no, I got no problem with what's going on. Right. If she. If she feels empowered or if she just. Hell, if she just likes the job. If it's just good money and she's like, I like. I like this job. I enjoy taking my clothes off and getting paid money. That's what I want to be doing with my life right now. And then I, as a consumer also enjoy when she does that. I think that's capitalism. That's beautiful. I think that's. I think that's empowering financially for her. So. But again, weird choice for the NBA to be like strip club night. I get definitely weird. Definitely odd.
- [42:31]
B
Yes.
- [42:31]
A
I get.
- [42:31]
B
David Stern would have put a stop to that.
- [42:34]
A
Oh, yeah. David Stern would be like, yeah. Wear more clothes tonight.
- [42:38]
B
That was one of his things. You got to wear a suit.
- [42:40]
A
Yeah. Dress. Dress code for women night. Yeah. Keep. Yeah. No uncovered shoulders, ladies. All right. What else we got? Jerks and profile.
- [42:50]
D
Wait.
- [42:51]
A
Hold on. For another year.
- [42:52]
D
Hold on. I find it odd we talk about that. We have two women in the back. I kind of want to get there.
- [42:58]
E
If I'm being honest. I saw this all over Twitter. I, I didn't even know what Magic City was.
- [43:05]
C
I heard of it. Isn't it? It was hard and likes to go
- [43:08]
E
going over my head.
- [43:09]
B
Almost certainly. I don't know that for a fact. But I. That's a pretty good.
- [43:13]
C
My Cleveland Cavalier. I don't know. It's. I think it's an odd. Odd business to support for an NBA game, period. Minus all of the other things. I just think it's an odd thing yeah.
- [43:31]
B
Seems like it worked from a business.
- [43:35]
C
I also have never been to a strip club or specifically Magic City, so I don't. I don't really know the vibes like that, but, like, will there be strippers there?
- [43:46]
A
No. No, I can't. I. I do not think that there will be.
- [43:49]
D
That would surprise me like that, but
- [43:52]
E
that's where I draw the line. Yeah. But also, like, other than that, it's just kind of funny.
- [43:56]
C
Yeah, it's whatever.
- [43:58]
A
If there were strippers taking their clothes off at NBA game, I feel like most people would be like, whoa, this is.
- [44:03]
B
I don't even know that that's legal.
- [44:04]
A
I don't think that it is.
- [44:05]
E
Probably not.
- [44:06]
A
Like, maybe. Maybe they'll have some dancers courtside that they'll show on, like, the celebrity cam. You think they should have the DJ be like, we got Candy, everybody.
- [44:14]
B
Magic City after the game. Sapphire.
- [44:17]
A
We got candy stepping up.
- [44:18]
D
But it was just a whole bunch of magicians twerking. So I would say. I would think that there's no There.
- [44:24]
A
There's not gonna be women wearing anything
- [44:25]
D
less than what cheerleaders wear. That would be my guess. If there's something else. Like I said, I don't know that I.
- [44:32]
E
And if you think about it this way, maybe they've been needing some promotion. The strippers start getting paid more now that the NBA night.
- [44:40]
C
And support small businesses or. Yeah, support small businesses and support women in a legal and safe way.
- [44:52]
A
Yes.
- [44:53]
C
Don't be weird with them.
- [44:54]
A
Not illegal.
- [44:55]
C
Not illegal. And not unsafe. Unsafe.
- [44:58]
A
We're. We're a pro safety podcast.
- [45:00]
C
Especially at Magic City.
- [45:02]
A
Yes. So, yeah, prostitution should be legal, consisting adults.
- [45:09]
D
Well, it would be safer. It would.
- [45:11]
A
I think the.
- [45:12]
D
I think STIs would drop if you could regulate it.
- [45:17]
A
Yeah. I mean, that's kind of the. The mindset behind Amsterdam.
- [45:22]
D
Yeah. In order to. In order to participate in our services, Nevada have to pass a STI test. And all the ladies are screened. All the men that are with the ladies are screen. And if there's any women or there's any men that want to do that too, they're all screened. Safer.
- [45:37]
A
People do forget that it's illegal in Nevada, like, in the United States.
- [45:42]
D
I did not know that.
- [45:43]
A
Actually, not in Vegas.
- [45:44]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [45:45]
A
But if you go to Nevada and you go outside whatever county. Clark County, I think, is where Vegas is. If you go outside that county, if you go outside the county that Vegas is in for the rest of the state, I think it's legal in just about every county.
- [46:00]
B
So is it A federal law that Nevada somehow gets around, or is it just they're the only state that and every other state says it's illegal?
- [46:08]
A
That's a good question. Can we look that up?
- [46:11]
B
Prostitution is not business known to me illegal under a single federal law, but it is effectively illegal nationwide except in parts of Nevada through various federal statutes,
- [46:21]
A
probably like sex trafficking.
- [46:22]
B
Federal laws criminalize specific related activities like transporting persons for commercial sex across state lines using federal facilities, or in case involving force, fraud, coercion or minors.
- [46:33]
A
So federal facilities could probably include like highways, right? Yeah, yeah, it's already legal here. Go to the Bunny Ranch.
- [46:43]
C
What's the Bunny Ranch?
- [46:44]
D
I remember watching that in, you know, them early days of HBO and late
- [46:49]
A
night HBO days, Eric, Before. Before there was porn everywhere. Yeah, that's. That's what we had was like the Bunny Ranch. Real sex on hbo. To answer your question, Mad Dog, the Bunny Ranch is just a brothel in Vegas in Nevada. I don't. I think it's probably closer to Reno than it is to Vegas.
- [47:09]
C
And I'm going to ask you another question.
- [47:11]
A
I've never been there.
- [47:11]
C
I, I wasn't gonna ask you that. I is a. I've heard of brothels and I know brothels, like generally what they are. But is it literally just like women in a big house and people come in and have sex with them?
- [47:25]
A
I think so. I think you walk in and then the madam greets you.
- [47:33]
C
Head bitch in charge.
- [47:34]
A
Yeah. Then the madam greets you and then she brings out the ladies into the, the greeting room. And then she asks you, which lady do you like the most?
- [47:44]
C
Really?
- [47:45]
A
I think so.
- [47:46]
C
And that exists somewhere in the United States?
- [47:48]
A
It exists in a lot of places. It exists.
- [47:50]
D
It exists outside the United States a lot more.
- [47:52]
A
It exists.
- [47:53]
D
So like anytime I'm outside of the city, not because I'm against like OT play, but out of town.
- [48:00]
C
Oh, okay.
- [48:02]
E
In a way game.
- [48:04]
D
No, but because I know like there's a lot of trafficking that goes on and it's less regulated in other places. So anytime I go places and you get, you get quartered all the time, I'm like, I, hell no. I don't even. Because this is, you know, some dirty going on and probably kidnap people and all that. So I don't want, I don't even want. I don't even play in that field. Can't do it. Wow.
- [48:27]
C
I'm learning a lot.
- [48:28]
A
Yeah. I, I know that there's. Wow.
- [48:30]
D
Where we live in, man.
- [48:31]
A
There's a bunch in. In Nevada. There's some In Key west, too.
- [48:36]
C
Oh, interesting.
- [48:37]
A
Yeah. I don't know if I'm telling tales out of school, if that's like giving up the game.
- [48:42]
B
Oh, are those underground?
- [48:44]
A
I don't know if they're specifically. I probably shouldn't have said anything. I might get. They might come after me now.
- [48:50]
B
People gonna.
- [48:51]
A
Yeah, I think they might operate with like a wink and a nod. Again, never been to brothel myself. Do know several people that have been to brothels.
- [48:59]
B
Any that work here?
- [49:02]
D
I don't.
- [49:02]
A
No, I don't think so. I don't think if I.
- [49:05]
B
That was an interesting way to phrase
- [49:06]
A
that answer because, like, guys don't have the brothel con. I can't remember having a brothel conversation with everybody that. That works here.
- [49:12]
B
Oh, I thought you meant you knew of someone. You just weren't sure how you would classify their employment status.
- [49:16]
A
No, no, I've never. There's like a handful of dudes that I know that, like, personally that have been to brothels, and none of them work at barstool.
- [49:25]
B
Okay, so you mentioned jerks and profile.
- [49:30]
A
Jerks and profile.
- [49:31]
B
Someone who should be executed.
- [49:33]
A
Jerks and profile. By the way, the. The guy, Dahlman, that retired from the Bears, Their center?
- [49:40]
B
Yeah.
- [49:41]
A
I did see a very interesting tweet going around about him. So, Aaron, if. I don't know if you saw this news, but the Chicago Bears have a Pro bowl center, and he retired yesterday. I think he's 27 years old. So he just played his first year of his second contract.
- [49:57]
D
Did we not just say that?
- [49:58]
B
Huh? Madeline brought it up before we recorded.
- [50:00]
D
Oh, I thought I was like, damn. I know. I'm not tripping. She said this before you walked in there.
- [50:05]
A
Okay, so. So he played his first year of his second contract, so he got some money in the bank at least. And then he decided, I'm retiring. And then I saw a very interesting tweet that was like, number one, I hope he's okay. Number two, there should be some sort of recourse to guys that quit.
- [50:21]
B
Yeah,
- [50:24]
D
who said that?
- [50:25]
A
Just some random guy on Twitter. I don't. I don't know the guy's name, but just from the fan perspective of, like, we should be able to do something to the players that quit.
- [50:32]
B
There is. They don't get $20 million.
- [50:35]
A
Yeah, that's a recourse. But, like, as fans, we don't get our pound of flesh.
- [50:38]
B
Right?
- [50:38]
A
Like, he should. He should write season ticket holders an apology note. What about that family? What about that young family with an 11 year old?
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D
They got Christmas Tickets.
- [50:48]
B
I mean, buddy, walk a mile in my shoes with Jerks and Profar.
- [50:51]
A
Yeah. So Jerks and Profar. Tying it back to baseball. Jerks and Profile has been suspended for the entire season.
- [50:57]
B
Yep.
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A
For peds.
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B
Yep.
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A
Tell us a brief history of Jerks and Profile.
- [51:02]
B
So, Arian, you'll love this.
- [51:04]
D
Who's Jerks and Profile?
- [51:05]
B
Jerks and Profile. I guess we'll call him a player for the Atlanta Braves. He's never played. So this guy, he played for the Padres two years ago, had been a. He was like uber top, top prospect in baseball 10, 12 years ago, had a middling career, never really panned out. All of the sudden, at the age of 31 with the San Diego Padres, has a breakout year, just kills it in 2024. He then that off season, signs a three year, $42 million deal with the Atlanta Braves. Congratulations, brother. You made it. I think up to that point, his Creed made like 30 million. So you just more than doubled your career earnings. You did it. If you never hit a baseball again, the Atlanta Braves have to give you $42 million. Congratulations. He plays the first two or three games of last year and it comes out, got popped for steroids, suspended for 80 games. So he basically is one of the things that tanked the Brave season last year. Comes back at the end of the year and actually he was very. He was very remorseful. Said like, guys, I'm so sorry, this will never happen again. Played pretty well at the back half of the year. The season was already over, but whatever, played well. Going to be a critical part of the team coming into this year. And sure enough, yesterday popped again. 162 game suspension completely. So here's what I don't understand. This guy's obviously the biggest piece of shit asshole that's ever lived, but putting
- [52:35]
A
that aside, that's a little strong.
- [52:37]
B
Top 10. Putting that aside, he's a selfish asshole. But that aside, you had, you did it. He very clearly, I think we can agree, cheated in 2024 to have a breakout season at 31. How he didn't get caught, who knows?
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A
I think we. We can say that there's a lot of signs that point to.
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B
Right?
- [52:56]
A
Yeah.
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B
So it makes sense to do steroids when you need to get a contract. Right. So I can understand that even if I think it's wrong. But then he did it, and now he's just doing it for kicks.
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A
He just loves it.
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B
It's like a bank robber that successfully robbed a bank.
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A
One last score and then. Yeah.
- [53:12]
B
And then he just Goes back just for the thr it like let's play devil's advocate.
- [53:18]
D
Maybe he got. He got popped and then he was like, you know what? I. Over this season for the franchise and these fans. I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna do everything in my power to come back and we have a really good year next year. Even if that's trying to do.
- [53:35]
B
If that's the case. What was the. What was the reason the first time
- [53:39]
D
to get the contract?
- [53:40]
B
No, no, but he already did that then with the Braves. He had the first suspension. Now he had the second one.
- [53:47]
D
So the first one was to make do on is okay. You know, we. We made. I'm make sure that I play good and he got popped. Okay. Let me make it up. It's definitely advocate.
- [53:56]
B
Yeah. I mean, I really don't like this guy. But. But that's the thing. So now he's given up the last two years. He should have made $28 million and he's made like six.
- [54:06]
A
Yeah, it's. It's not smart from a financial standpoint. Maybe he's just. Do you think he just has a lot of pride in the Netherlands and he's doing steroids so that they can win the world baseball class.
- [54:18]
B
Well done. Get to play in it now. So.
- [54:19]
A
Oh, you. You get suspended from that if you get suspended by mlb?
- [54:22]
B
Yep.
- [54:23]
A
That's bullshit.
- [54:25]
B
You want guys roided up in the World Baseball Classic?
- [54:27]
A
Yes, I do. I do. That should happen outside the jurisdiction of baseball. Of. Of Major League Baseball.
- [54:32]
B
Suspended from everything.
- [54:33]
A
I don't like that. You should let the boys. If, if you're not on. If you're unable to make a major league roster and you don't think that you're going to get a massive contract. I want the guys from the other countries, like Italy, like the Italian team, shoot up all the steroids that you want and just get jacked as fuck. Maybe win the World Baseball Classic and then you get a lot of like endorsement deals from Diodora and like wine companies and shit. I don't know what. What else Italians buy Lamborghinis, Ferraris. Yeah.
- [55:05]
B
I think they only have two MLB players. Do you know who they are? If. If you think of names, you should be able to get them.
- [55:12]
A
Yeah, I'm trying to think of names.
- [55:17]
B
One is a big barstool guy has been in this office.
- [55:19]
A
Oh, yeah, yeah. Pasquatino.
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B
Vinnie Pasquantino.
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A
Yeah.
- [55:23]
B
Yeah.
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A
He's not bad, right?
- [55:25]
B
No, he's good.
- [55:26]
A
He's pretty good.
- [55:26]
B
The other is a young, very Hot prospect.
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A
Young hot prospect.
- [55:32]
B
SEC guy.
- [55:35]
A
Is he Tennessee guy?
- [55:38]
B
No, quite the opposite.
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A
Lsu.
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B
Not. Not lsu.
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A
Alabama.
- [55:45]
D
Yep. Yeah, the opposite would be Alabama.
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B
Jack Caglioni.
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A
Oh, okay.
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B
Florida.
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A
Is he competing for Italy?
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B
Yeah.
- [55:52]
A
Oh, cool. But yeah, if you're not in mlb, they should, they should not test you for. For steroids. Let jerks in play.
- [56:00]
B
The most infuriating thing is I don't know how this isn't in the cba. His contract for next year is still guaranteed. The braves owe him $14 million. Like, he's going to show up at spring training next year, presumably, like, all right, guys, let's get him.
- [56:15]
A
So he needs to do just all the steroids this year or if you're suspended, are you still getting tested during, during your suspension?
- [56:21]
B
I have to imagine. So while you're suspended, I actually at this point hope he does more steroids than he's going to void next year. Year.
- [56:29]
A
Yeah, he might be addicted to steroids. Have you thought about that then?
- [56:33]
B
Baseball's not the profession for you, brother.
- [56:35]
A
That's true. God bless you. Go to church.
- [56:37]
B
Go do the, the roided up Olympics thing.
- [56:40]
A
Oh, yeah, the Enhanced Games.
- [56:42]
B
Is that still happening?
- [56:42]
A
Yeah, it is Enhanced Games. I. I had a funny little sit. One day we'll tell the full story behind this, but myself and Hank had a little sit down at the, at the super bowl with. There's a CTO of Meta of the Meta company and he showed us, he gave us a demonstration on like, the new glasses that they have, which are kind of crazy. Like on the, on the new glasses you can pull up screens and get directions, like on the lens, and people can't see that you're looking at it. You, like, use your hands to control it, like a trackpad. It's what Google Glass said that they were going to be.
- [57:15]
B
I was gonna say, remember Google Glass?
- [57:16]
A
But that was technology that was like, the idea was 10 years ahead of the technology.
- [57:21]
B
Also looked moronic.
- [57:23]
A
It looks stupid. So Metas is now coming out with like the next generation of that. And so they were giving us a demo on that. And then Hank and I sat down and did essentially an episode, a part of my take with me, Hank and the CTO of Meta instead of Big Cat. And it was, it was a wild, wild scene. The way that they had like the super professional podcast equipment set up, like, so different from the way things happen on part of my take. It was kind of crazy. But yeah, we were talking to him during the podcast and he was talking about the Enhanced Games and I just Think the Enhanced Games are the funniest thing ever. Like the way that they're, they're trying to present themselves. This guy from Meta really like is embracing the, the science behind it. Like this is how we're going to figure out how to extend people's lives by decades.
- [58:11]
D
What's the Enhanced Game?
- [58:12]
A
We're on the bleeding edge of technology. It's the All Steroid Olympics. So you can do whatever you want.
- [58:19]
D
But this is a thing really.
- [58:22]
A
It's funded by Peter Thiel, friend of the program. When is heavy, I don't know.
- [58:29]
B
They've been talking about it for years.
- [58:31]
A
But yeah, you can enhance. Athletes can enhance their bodies through whatever chemical experimentation or drug regiment that they want.
- [58:40]
B
May 2026 in Vegas.
- [58:43]
D
I'm gonna watch this.
- [58:45]
A
And when they, when they first announced the Enhanced Games, there was a very funny segment on the website that was like talking about the, the shame and how, how athletes around the world. Enhanced athletes around the world have been suffering in silence with no visibility because they get shamed. Anytime somebody gets popped for steroids. You hear guys like Big T said they're a top 10 piece of, of all time.
- [59:10]
B
I said one, you talked me down to 10.
- [59:13]
A
And meanwhile you've got little children, you've got little kids at home that like it's part of their lives and their condition that they take steroids and they see guys like Big T talking about like, you know, their bodies essentially. And so growing up, yeah.
- [59:29]
B
So growing Ericsson profile and his disability that he's is required to take steroids.
- [59:34]
A
Growing up as an enhanced kid, like it's tough, it's. You deal with a lot of self, you know, body image issues, self confidence issues because people are calling you a cheater and a piece of. Etc. And then on the website it was also talking about like how, as a resource guide, how to come out as enhanced, like how to be open about it, how to talk to your family about like mom, Dad, I got something to tell you. I've. I love taking steroids.
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D
I'm in hand.
- [60:01]
A
I'm enhanced. Your son, your son is enhanced. I hope you still love me just the same. But it had this like whole section on like social justice for people who take steroids which was like by far the funniest section of the website. I thought that was hilarious. The guy from Meta didn't really think that was that funny because I think he really loves the Enhanced Games and
- [60:20]
B
he kind of like are they involved in it somehow or. He was just a big fan.
- [60:23]
A
I think just a Big fan. And I mean, there, there are some like, kind of good points about, like, people that experiment with steroids and are like really into it and doctors that experiment with it, they, they can come across like medical advancements because it is like you're experimenting on yourself a little bit. So like Jose Canseco and all those guys, they figured out the. The right amount to do steroids. You could say that. Like, they got good at baseball.
- [60:58]
B
Sure.
- [60:58]
A
And with the, you know, only a handful of them died. So.
- [61:02]
B
Who died?
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A
Well, King Cam, and he died pretty early.
- [61:05]
B
I've heard that name, but I, I never.
- [61:07]
A
I think 19. Don't quote me on this, but look it up. 1999 MVP, maybe 1997 NL MVP of
- [61:18]
B
the National League of Major League Baseball.
- [61:20]
A
Yeah, I think on the Padres baseball reference has been.
- [61:27]
B
The formatting has been messed up recently. I can't see it. 1996 NL MVP. How do I know this guy?
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A
Okay.
- [61:37]
B
Yeah, he died of steroids.
- [61:38]
A
Oh, no, he passed away. I think that's probably unfair for me
- [61:43]
B
to say or what, like a heart
- [61:44]
A
attack of steroids, but he passed away prematurely. October 10, 2004 is when he died.
- [61:51]
B
Played for the. His last MLB appearance was for the Atlanta Braves.
- [61:55]
A
I didn't know that. He was a great third baseman. Really good third baseman. So. Yeah, he was 41 when he passed away.
- [62:02]
B
Sounds like it could have been substance abuse pain.
- [62:07]
A
He was also a big. Yep. Cocaine. He did some cocaine. Also did a lot of. A lot of steroids. Oh, damn. He died of a speedball. Cocaine and heroin. That's kind of crazy.
- [62:24]
B
Don't do drugs.
- [62:25]
A
Don't do drugs, guys. But if you happen to be an enhanced child, just know that like, Big T does not speak for everyone and representation matters.
- [62:33]
B
So I only care. I only care to the extent that it affects me. And Jerks and Profile has affected me adversely several times. Yeah. Twice on purpose.
- [62:43]
D
Like an asshole speedball. It's cocaine and heroin.
- [62:46]
A
Yeah. That's what Chris Farley died of.
- [62:51]
D
That is intense, man. You smoke it or do you eat it or what do you.
- [62:55]
A
I think you could probably shoot it. You can probably snort it.
- [62:58]
D
Shoot it.
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A
You can probably. I don't know, I mean, maybe somebody that has a bigger knowledge base about drugs can tell me if it's like really a speedball, if you snort it or if you have to.
- [63:10]
D
Like, that's not like a one off. Right. That's like you have to build up to get there. Right. Like these highs aren't enough anymore. So I got to mix the craziest shit together.
- [63:18]
A
Yeah. Now that's also what they gave the. It's also what they gave the pilots of those, those submarines, the one person submarines in World War II. Hitler was like, yeah, I want. These guys are going to go under underwater for like days at a time. I need them to be awake and not, not eating food or have an appetite. So I'm going to give them cocaine. But then if I just give them a bunch of cocaine, lock them in a coffin sized submarine, they're going to freak out under the water. And so I need something to mellow them out. So let's just put some heroin or morphine with the cocaine and that'll, that'll steady them out. So all these guys got injected with that drug, went underneath the water and not a single one ever came up. They all had heart attacks, like immediately died. Yeah, speedball. I'm not seeing if it's. I think it could be. I think it'd be any combination of heroin or cocaine. All right, we got some other stuff in the news today. Depositions. We got Epstein depositions. Big T, what are your thoughts on the Clintons being called to testify?
- [64:41]
B
None of this is funny. I want to make terrible stuff happening. Bill Clinton looking through pictures of like, they're like, hey, here's the evidence of you hanging out with Epstein and him just like kickling like a schoolgirl was kind of funny.
- [64:57]
A
He's like, those are some wild times.
- [64:58]
B
I mean, he was loving it. The lawyer ripped it out of his hands.
- [65:01]
A
You got any more? Is that it?
- [65:02]
B
Yeah, he was loving it. Hillary got really mad and stormed out because they posted a picture of her, I guess.
- [65:08]
A
Yeah. So it was a closed deposition. They wanted it to be open testimony. So they wanted like cameras, the whole nine yards. And which there.
- [65:19]
B
It just wasn't going to be live because they've released the footage.
- [65:22]
A
Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't going to be live. It was, but they, they wanted it to be like open testimony in Congress. Carry it live, everybody can watch it. And then I believe the Republican said, no, we don't want that. And so then she came in to testify and then people took pictures.
- [65:38]
C
Lauren Boebert took pictures and sent them to Benny Johnson and Benny Johnson leaked
- [65:42]
A
them and Benny Johnson leaked him. And then Hillary found out during the testimony that they were doing that, and she was like, what the fuck are we doing? This is. I'm going to just quit. We're done here. And then Billbert had to apologize and delete them and have them deleted.
- [65:57]
C
She also asked Bill Clinton if he thought Epstein killed himself or not or if he was suicidal.
- [66:04]
A
What'd Bill say?
- [66:05]
C
He said, I am not sure if he killed himself or not. You and I know the same amount. I have made peace with the fact that the coroner has said he has killed himself. And then he said, I think he just got caught and didn't know where else to turn. But Lauren. Bill Clinton's lawyer was handling Lauren Boebert easily.
- [66:29]
A
Yeah, well, it's tough to nail down Slick Willie. Slick Willie's. He's testified a time or two in his life, and he can wriggle out of most anything.
- [66:37]
C
Lauren Bobert is child's play to him. Bad, bad, bad. I shouldn't have said that.
- [66:42]
A
Yes. Okay. Disavow.
- [66:45]
C
I disavow.
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A
It's batting practice.
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B
Yeah.
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A
It's batting practice for. For Bill Clinton.
- [66:50]
C
Yeah.
- [66:51]
A
And. And for Hillary, too. Like, Hillary Bill Clinton, by the way, like, all time scumbag, all time sleaze ball.
- [66:56]
C
Totally.
- [66:56]
A
You could definitely see a few times when he's like, man, those are good old days. I don't know why I've turned him into Matthew McConaughey with. With that voice, but Bill Clinton, all time sleaze ball. I don't think he said anything incriminating, like, self incriminating.
- [67:08]
C
No.
- [67:09]
A
I haven't seen any clips that would indicate that he. He admitted to break. Like, they caught him doing anything. Big T, have you seen anything?
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B
I don't think so, no.
- [67:18]
A
So it sounds like he probably. He probably skated. The clips that I saw with Hillary, she seemed to just, like, get very upset at. At Boebert and Nancy Mace.
- [67:32]
C
I would, too.
- [67:33]
A
And there was a. I think they asked her about the Frazzle Drip file on her laptop. And if you're not super online, first of all, if you don't know what I'm talking about, congratulations. It's. It kind of ties in with the Pizzagate stuff, but allegedly there was a file on Anthony Weiner's laptop that said, like, life insurance. And in that file, there was a video called Frazzle Drip. And the lore behind Frazzle Drip is it's a snuff video where, like, Hillary kills a kid in the snuff video. So. And now, to be clear, there is no evidence that this exists outside of the Pizzagate fan fiction that's been written about Hillary Clinton. And so they asked her about this file, and. And it was, like, weird seeing Hillary, like, react to it. Like, I have no, like, seeing somebody who is so terminally online ask Somebody who is so terminally offline about a theory about them killing kid. It was like a really weird disconnect where it's like we're no longer speaking the same language right now.
- [68:39]
C
Yeah. They asked her about Pizzagate several times, and she was like, do you not understand that this is insane that you're asking me this right now? And Lauren Boebert was like, well, do you think it's real?
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A
I think Bobs wanted to get some online clout.
- [68:54]
C
I mean, obviously, she leaked a picture to Benny Johnson.
- [68:56]
A
Yeah, she just wanted to get some. Some retweets going. And. And Boebert, I feel like, is, like, trying real hard with Benny. She's like, I can. I can fix him.
- [69:04]
C
She wants to go to Beetlejuice with him.
- [69:06]
A
Yeah. She's like, if. If Benny Johnson hung out with me, I could. I could straighten him right out. I think that's what her. Her, by the way, Lauren Bobert. Come on, Macrodos. We've. We've invited her on several times. Right.
- [69:22]
E
Like, maybe you've asked the congressman if they could talk to her, to no avail.
- [69:26]
A
Can we reach out. Can we proactively reach out to Bobs?
- [69:29]
E
Sure.
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D
Frazzle drip.
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A
Yeah, I was.
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D
That was a new one to me.
- [69:37]
A
Yeah, you have to be pretty online to know about frazzledrip.
- [69:41]
D
Frazzle drips a lot.
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A
I did not know the. I didn't know the name of it. I had heard that one of the Pizzagate theories was that, like, there's snuff videos of Hillary, but I did not. I did not know about this specific one, which you have to be pretty deep into the culture to know about it. And, yeah, they asked her about it. She did not.
- [70:00]
B
In my experience, hearing you speak about pizza get you. You know a lot about it.
- [70:05]
D
Oh, yeah.
- [70:06]
A
I mean, it's a big thing.
- [70:08]
B
Yeah. I think people are generally familiar, but you seem to know a lot.
- [70:12]
A
It was. It's a very, very big. Like when it came out with the. The WikiLeaks emails and all that shit, like, it was a massive online story. And then the start of 8chan becoming a political force in America, there was multiple documentaries. It's fascinating to me how people can. Like how people then spun careers off of the Pizzagate emails and they became experts on it, and then Q was alluding to the Pizzagate things, and then they became Q experts who then they develop their own careers just by being, like, doing their own QAnon podcasts based on, like, reading the tea leaves of these emails and what this fake guy Q Just posted online. It's like a very. It's a weird cult that kind of sprung up out of nowhere. So it's. Yeah, it's very fascinating to me.
- [71:01]
D
I saw that. That QAnon shaman, he's. He's like no longer a Trump supporter, if I'm. I'm correct.
- [71:09]
A
Oh, really?
- [71:10]
D
Yeah, I think so. I saw that somewhere. Where did I see that? He's a Trump supporter or he doesn't believe in Q anymore at all. Like, he was like, it's all.
- [71:18]
A
I think when you've lost the shaman.
- [71:21]
D
Yeah.
- [71:22]
A
There was kind of like a weird overlap between some of the Q stuff and like, very spiritual people, too, like hippie granola, crystal, yoga moms. They have a place in the Q movement. And it kind of ties in with the old school anti vax stuff where you want to believe that there's an ongoing battle between light and dark and good and evil that's happening right now in America. And you want to do everything you can to be on the side of the light, but all people are telling you is just keep posting about the light, and that's all you can do. And then when that battle seems to never end, you go slowly insane because you're like, I've done all the posting that I can, and there's still this evil happening, and I don't know what else to do about it. And then you kind of just drive yourself crazy. That's usually how it ends.
- [72:16]
D
Or you drink the Kool Aid.
- [72:20]
A
Yeah. Or you drink the Kool Aid. Let's see what else we got.
- [72:26]
B
Shout out Mark Teixeira.
- [72:27]
A
Mark Shera.
- [72:28]
B
Probably going to be in Congress.
- [72:30]
A
So he won a primary.
- [72:32]
B
That's correct.
- [72:32]
A
So who'd he beat? So he won the Texas 21st GOP primary.
- [72:39]
B
I'm not saying who he beat. The. The incumbent is Chip Roy.
- [72:43]
A
Okay.
- [72:44]
B
It's a good Texas name.
- [72:46]
A
It's a very solid.
- [72:48]
B
Secured more than 61% of the vote.
- [72:50]
A
There's also a guy named Lloyd Doggett. I believe he represented Austin for a while. The great Texas congressperson name.
- [72:57]
B
I can't find who he ran against, but who cares? The Republicans will never lose another congressional baseball game for the rest of time.
- [73:04]
A
Is there a rule like how many times you're allowed to bat or how many home runs you can hit?
- [73:08]
B
I don't think so because there have been scores that were like 17 to 2.
- [73:12]
A
I played beer league softball for a while, and there were rules that, like, if you had a ringer on your team, he could only hit two Home runs a game.
- [73:20]
B
And I think there's a home run limit generally in softball. Right.
- [73:23]
A
Well, every other home run that that's person would hit would be counted as an out. So it's like you got to. You got to hit directional now. Yeah, you got to. So there should be a rule for sure for Mark to sh. If you, if you are a former baseball player. Although this does seem like communism, doesn't it?
- [73:39]
B
How do you figure?
- [73:40]
A
It's like we're taxing excellence.
- [73:44]
B
What you're describing.
- [73:45]
A
We're limiting the amount.
- [73:46]
B
Right. But I don't think that exists. So.
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A
Yeah, so what I'm describing, I'm saying might be problematic.
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B
Right.
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A
I don't think Congress ever pass a law that would agree. Agree to that.
- [73:58]
B
He has. He can't pull some bullshit though where he's like, oh, sorry guys, like my baseball days are behind me. If he doesn't play, I will be explicitly anti Mark Teixeira.
- [74:09]
A
Yeah, he has to play.
- [74:11]
B
He has to play. He has to play to the full extent of his ability and he has to go up there and hit 500 foot home runs.
- [74:17]
A
Can you imagine pitching against Mark to share who's. Who are the pitchers for the Dems?
- [74:22]
B
I don't know. For the Dems. I know the Republicans. It's the guy from, I think Florida. Stubby, I think is his name. And he's pretty good.
- [74:31]
A
Let's see who, who pitches for the Dems. Don Baer, Ruben Gallego, Jimmy Panetta, Peter Aguilar. This is a problem. They're going to get, they're going to get shelled. What if they just beamed them?
- [74:51]
B
That'd be disgusting.
- [74:53]
A
What if there was a brawl?
- [74:54]
B
Show some sportsmanship.
- [74:55]
A
Dems would get fucking destroyed in a brawl. I mean, but here's who does, who does Fetterman attack?
- [75:03]
B
Which side is he on?
- [75:04]
A
Well, he's. He's a Democrat.
- [75:06]
B
I know, but they say he's a Republican.
- [75:07]
A
He would play for the Dems. Like Fetterman's. He's probably first baseman, right?
- [75:12]
B
Yeah.
- [75:12]
A
Or dh. Let's just say first baseman. And to share a charge of the mound, what is, what does Fetterman do in that situation?
- [75:22]
B
I don't know.
- [75:22]
A
I think he just kind of like shuffles his feet and wanders off into right field and pretends that he's lost. He just starts like picking grass off the ground, throwing it in the air.
- [75:31]
E
The Democrats have a woman coach checks out. Linda Sanchez.
- [75:36]
A
That sounds.
- [75:37]
E
Yeah, yeah, sounds like a Democrat thing.
- [75:39]
A
Okay.
- [75:39]
E
Just realize that.
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A
So she's She's a new coach or it just.
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B
It.
- [75:45]
E
They have a roster listed. It just says coaches and she's on there. Each team is one coach.
- [75:52]
A
I'm just trying to think of any. Any libs that the Dems are probably reaching out to right now.
- [75:57]
E
Yeah, I remember Pat Ryan, when he was on. He mentioned someone from Iowa maybe. Yeah, that was like a minor league player they were trying to get to run.
- [76:06]
A
I mean, Brandon McCarthy. I feel like he. He errs on the liberal side of things. Former pitcher from the.
- [76:14]
B
The liberal side of things.
- [76:16]
A
Yeah. Yeah, they'll probably ask him to run.
- [76:19]
B
Is he. Is he. I see political tweets from him all the time. Is he running for something?
- [76:23]
A
No, I don't think so. I'm just saying that they'll probably reach out to him. He had one of the best tweets. He was like one of the original baseball tweeters. Like one of the first guys in the league to be tweeting while they were playing actively in mlb. There was one. I remember he got. He got hit in the face on a comebacker, like off the side of the head. And I think he got knocked out and sent to the hospital. And then the next day he got released. And I think his tweet was like, well, if this isn't the perfect day to ask my wife for a threesome, then I'm all out of ideas.
- [76:53]
B
It's his. I just went to his profile. It says pin tweet in all caps. Well, if being discharged from the hospital isn't the best time to ask about a threesome, then I'm fresh out of ideas.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Great Tweet by from 2012.
- [77:05]
A
Yeah. So that's like back in the day. That was. That was earth shattering.
- [77:08]
B
Yeah.
- [77:09]
A
That an athlete would tweet that. All right. We got anything else that we want to get into? I guess we haven't. We're not talking about the epine files that much. With war going on, that's what they want.
- [77:28]
D
Peculiar, huh?
- [77:29]
A
Eric H. Interesting. It is. It's also very interesting that only people in foreign governments have been arrested. Nobody's been arrested in the United States. And it's also interesting that. Yeah, the one guy that had been arrested and was serving prison time who also killed himself in French. It was like in French jail. It's interesting that there have been some connections that have come out recently that you should look into. Interesting. We live an interesting time span right now.
- [78:09]
E
Makes you think.
- [78:11]
A
Okay, what else do we want to talk about? We want. Just talk about Iran. You Want to discuss the history of Iran?
- [78:18]
B
Yeah, let's go back to Iran.
- [78:21]
A
It's one of those. It's one of those words that I'm not really sure. I think I like, dive in and out of how I pronounce it. How do you pronounce it?
- [78:31]
B
Iran.
- [78:32]
A
Iran. Iran. Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran. Sounds good to me. Can we agree to stick with Iran?
- [78:41]
B
I believe that's the, the pronunciation.
- [78:43]
A
Okay. Iran.
- [78:44]
D
Gotta roll your R. Iran.
- [78:47]
A
Oh, well, now that's like, that's expert mode
- [78:52]
D
accurate.
- [78:53]
A
So Aryan. You would actually. I feel like you would love Iran.
- [78:58]
D
Why that?
- [78:59]
A
Well, because the name Iran, it comes from the Persian word arenum, meaning land of the Aryans.
- [79:11]
D
That's where I'm from, baby.
- [79:12]
A
That's so like, I know that you get upset with your parents sometimes, be like, why'd you name me Aryan? I hate that name. It's actually a throwback to Iran and Persia.
- [79:23]
D
Oh, that's not why they did it, but I'm listening.
- [79:27]
A
Okay, well, that's. Yeah, that's what it was called. The land of the Aryans. It was called Persia until recently, until 1935. I like Persia better.
- [79:36]
D
Persia's way better.
- [79:37]
B
Has aura to it.
- [79:38]
A
Persia's got a lot of aura and there's a lot of stuff that was going on in Persia in the early part of the 19 or I always get confused with that. 20th century. Yeah, the 20th century is the 1900s. They kind of fix that.
- [79:52]
B
Well, because the first century was leading up to 100, so it's one more than.
- [79:57]
A
So in the early part of the 1900s, we'll jump around a little bit. But early part of the 1900s, the British were like, oh, fuck, they've got so much oil over in Persia. We need to stake our claim and we need to, we need to take their, their oil ports. And so that will fund the British Empire's ongoing expansion and just maintenance of the Empire. And then In World War II, there are a lot of Germans that were posted up in Persia. And England was like, yo, that's kind of fucked up. There's a lot of Germans over here. I feel like they are probably going to take Persia's ports. We need to put pressure on Persia to kick all the Germans out. And Persia said, no, we're not going to do that. We're not going to kick the Persians out or, sorry, we're not going to kick the Germans out. And then England was like, well, us and the Soviet Union, we're going to try to take over the country. And I guess it was Russia at the time, not the Soviet Union. U.S. and Russia, we're going to. We're going to take over your country before the Germans can, so we can maintain access to all your ports. And then after World War II, then the United States, the CIA, Great Britain, we were like, hey, let's just. Let's see if they'll just play ball and we'll put our own guy in charge. And they did not play ball. Like, when you see all those pictures of Iran back In, like, the 1950s, those are the ones that we were talking about the other week. It's like, there's a lot of dudes that are. That are horny online for Persian women in the 1950s. They're like, look what they're able to wear. Wow, look at these beaches. And it is kind of, like, cool seeing, like, a culture that's now very repressed, what they. What they did look like at some point. But there was, like, those pictures are just.
- [81:42]
D
The drip.
- [81:43]
A
Yeah.
- [81:43]
D
Is the drip is insane.
- [81:46]
A
Yeah. There was. There was, like, a big American influence in Persia back in, like, the 1950s, 1960s, where there were a lot of people over there that were being courted by the CIA to spread American. What's the word I'm looking like, just American culture, American fashion, American way of life.
- [82:08]
B
Soft power.
- [82:09]
A
Soft power. And while a lot of people enjoyed some of the things that went along with soft power, as I mentioned earlier, the Persians are very proud people. And they didn't like the fact. Yeah. That we had installed people that isn't proud. I mean, they hear that.
- [82:24]
D
They're very proud people. Like, who's a. Not a proud people?
- [82:26]
A
No, like, super, super proud. Like, they.
- [82:28]
B
A lot of right now Americans.
- [82:31]
D
Not proud people.
- [82:33]
A
I'd say.
- [82:34]
B
I'd say subset of them.
- [82:35]
A
There's a lot of proud American. Like, I don't think so. There's certain things I've always found, like, pride to be a really interesting conversation when it comes to how you feel about a country that you were lucky enough to be born into. Right. Like, there's. I. I am proud of a lot of things that we've done. There's a lot of bad stuff that we've done, too. But at the end of the day, like, I. I was very lucky that I was born in the richest country in the world at the best time to be alive. I don't know that I can take pride and like, hey, good job, me. Nailed that one. Like, I think my sperm, like, sperm me. Let's go, buddy. Like, you were the man, like, honestly, if you, if you look, if you break it down, like millions, tens of millions of sperm and dude, when I was little, I was nasty like that. Like Tavon Austin high school highlights. That's what I was like as a sperm and nailed the egg. I'm born at the best time to ever be alive as a white man. Are you kidding me? A white male in America, when the Internet comes out, jackpot. Like, that's the all time jackpot of jackpots. But again, it's like, how much, how much pride do I have in myself for like, for being alive? I don't know. There's like, I understand both sides of the argument because there's, you know, there are certain things that our country's done that's been pretty cool, Very cool. And then some other stuff that's like, well, that wasn't, that wasn't great. But anyways, when I said prideful for like, I'll give you an example. So I went. I was hanging out in Greece a couple years ago. I went to the Parthenon, right? I went to go see the Acropolis. I was walking around, my buddy who's a Persian guy, and like, all the different things that they have on, like in their museums, if you're out at the Acropolis, like all the plaques that they have, the stuff that you read on the side telling you, okay, here's what happened to this building. And whatever year it was, ancient history, like, there were so many things on there that were like. And then Persia came and they took over from this time Spanish. And he would just like point at that, be like, persia, we did this, we did this. And then he'd like look around for other Persians that were walking around on the Acropolis, be like, hey, you Persian, we own this shit. We did this. And then they would just have like little mini Persian party. Like, yeah, our ancestors, we actually, we fucked them up pretty good right here. But what I'm saying is, like, there's, there's so much history in Persia that it's easy. I think it's easier for them to have like a deep sense of pride.
- [85:26]
D
And they, they distinctly. They're not Arab. No, they just, yeah, they, they, they distinctly that we are Persian, not Arab.
- [85:39]
A
Yeah. And if you look at the, the split in terms of like Sunnis and Shiites, the two major branches of Islam, you see like, where that distinction between Persian and Arabian comes from, which is something that also, like when we invaded Iraq, that's something that George Bush didn't really know about. He Was like confused that there were going to be three different branches that were going to be like fighting for control of the government after we got there. Like the Sunnis, the, the Shiites and, and the Kurds, by the way, the Kurds might be back. I've also heard that we might be arming the Kurds and sending them into Iran, which is something that we've done before. Just. You got your ears to the streets just with Iraq. Yeah. I mean that was like something that. I think it just leaked. Some CIA source leaked that out, probably for a specific reason.
- [86:44]
D
Who was it? Was it. Where did I see this? That was it on Pierce Morgan where there was a dude who was in, I think it was a pizza shop that overheard that we were gonna invade Iran.
- [87:03]
A
Okay.
- [87:04]
D
And he heard. Yeah, he heard it in a pizza shop by some of some people in the Defense Department, I'm guessing.
- [87:10]
A
Okay.
- [87:10]
D
And he was, he was like, I was going to. I think it was on Piers Morgan. I think it was Piers Morgan. But he was like, I was going to leave, but the conversation was very informative and I didn't want to leave. So he just stayed in the pizza shop listening to like battle plans.
- [87:27]
B
Yeah, I meant to bring this up on Monday and we didn't get to it. The poly market, Khomeini dying thing, do you all know about this?
- [87:40]
A
I've, I've read a few things about like, I've glanced at some posts.
- [87:44]
B
So they had a market for will Khomeini be in power on such and such a date? May or something. And the people who bet, no, obviously he gets killed is no longer in power. And they said Polymarket said, well, or it might have been Kalshee. I forget one of the two, forgive me, said wool death is not included in that.
- [88:07]
A
Oh, no longer in power is different.
- [88:09]
B
And it's like, well, how else was the 85 year old not going to be in power anymore?
- [88:13]
A
I'm okay with it.
- [88:14]
B
He was.
- [88:15]
D
He.
- [88:15]
B
I mean, he could have keeled over and died just naturally any day. Yeah, that was, that was the most reasonable way he would no longer be in power.
- [88:23]
A
I would agree with that. But also at the same time, I'm fine with it. I think, I think it's great if people lose their money on Polymarket.
- [88:31]
B
Well, yes.
- [88:32]
A
And on Kalshi for like administrative asterisks and like, I think that's great because then people stop using it as much.
- [88:41]
B
Yeah. I don't know, man.
- [88:44]
A
People love it, but the more, the more that type of shit happens. I think the more wary people will be in terms of putting a lot of money on this like trivial shit. Not, not, not to say this is trivial, but there's like a lot of trivial shit that you can bet on that I don't think is like great for society. Okay, so yeah, the, the Shiites, my understanding, Big T. Maybe you can clarify this. The difference between Sunnis and Shiites, it's about like next in line to Muhammad.
- [89:15]
B
I don't know the exact delineation. I just know Shia is far more hard line. So the Sunnis are the more liberal
- [89:26]
A
and then there's the Alawites in Syria that are like super lib. But yeah, the Sunnis, the Shiites I think believe that the next in line after the Prophet Muhammad was the correct choice. And the Sunnis might believe that that person was not the correct sir, like rehashing an old election for all.
- [89:52]
B
Primary difference between Sunni and Shia Muslims stems from a 7th century dispute over succession to Prophet Muhammad. Sunnis believed in electing leaders, also known as Caliphs choosing Abu Bakr. Shias believed leadership should remain with the Prophet's family, starting with his cousin and son in law, Ali. Okay, wasn't Abu Bakr, that was Al Baghdadi's name, right?
- [90:16]
A
Was it Abu Bakr?
- [90:18]
B
Al Baghdadi, remember Trump? Abu Bakr.
- [90:21]
A
Oh yeah, yeah, Baghdadi. That sounds right.
- [90:23]
B
Died like a dog.
- [90:25]
A
That sounds, yeah, that sounds.
- [90:27]
B
He was crying. It was. Nobody'd ever heard such crying before.
- [90:34]
A
The. So the Shiites believe that it should have gone, been passed down through the family. Sunnis believe it should have been. It's put up to election. Is that fair?
- [90:46]
B
Sounds like it.
- [90:48]
A
Okay, so the Iranian government is. They're a Shiite theocracy technically. And Iraq was more of a Sunni led because like Saddam, even though they were the minority in that country, in Iraq the Sunnis had all the power which was another big thing that Bush didn't really understand. When we take out the Sunni leadership, in theory the Shiites will be able to like take over as the majority in that country. But the Sunnis still have a lot of remaining power and they will fight back too. And then the Kurds will get involved and then no one knows what's going to happen. So anyways, it's all to say that Iran is, is majority Shiite and I think the largest population of Shiites in the world. They are the 18th biggest country in the world, top 23 times the size of Arizona and they have the third largest oil reserves behind Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. And here's a Fun fact about Iran, they make more than 90% of the world's supply of saffron. So if you like saffron, now might be the time to, like, make sure that your stockpiles are high. You guys a big saffron? Are we a saffron podcast? It's expensive.
- [92:12]
D
I don't. It's like one of those things that I'll probably enjoy if it's not. But I couldn't tell if it was missing or added to a dish.
- [92:23]
C
Yeah, I like the color.
- [92:24]
A
A great color.
- [92:26]
D
Oh, wait, you talking about the. The herb?
- [92:30]
A
Yeah, saffron. Yeah, yeah, saffron. I think it's delicious. It also has. It's like cool orange. I'm a fan.
- [92:37]
D
I don't know, it's never been like. Because I cook, but I never cooked with this before.
- [92:42]
B
You call this orange?
- [92:44]
D
It's like a, like a deep red, maybe.
- [92:46]
B
That's red.
- [92:47]
A
Yeah. But when it's. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but when you put it into a dish, it usually adds an orange hue, doesn't it? Or would you say red? I don't know.
- [92:55]
B
I don't come across saffron that often.
- [92:57]
A
Anyways, I like saffron. That's my point. I'm sorry if that's controversial. Saffron's a good. It's. It's a nice enhancer.
- [93:04]
D
I'm trying to think what, what. What's a. What's a good. What's a. If I was to get a dish, saffron rice, gotta have saffron of it. What? It's saffron rice.
- [93:11]
A
Saffron rice, Yeah.
- [93:13]
D
I don't know that I've had saffron rice.
- [93:15]
A
You have. It comes in a grocery store. It's always like, they sell it in like Indian food, right? Yeah, yeah. They sell in the most, like, intense packaging ever for a tiny, tiny little bit of this stuff.
- [93:28]
D
Yeah, I think. Yeah.
- [93:30]
B
Spanish paella, Italian risotto, Indian biryani and various teas or desserts.
- [93:37]
D
Now biryani. I will up some biryani.
- [93:40]
A
Do you with. With paella? I don't know, dude, paella is like one of the best dishes on, on the planet.
- [93:49]
D
Every time I order Indian, it's usually just biryani
- [93:54]
B
paella.
- [93:55]
D
Spain, goat should be cracking too.
- [93:59]
A
Yeah. Paella is the national dish of Spain. It's like a big ass rice dish that comes with like seafood. Like shrimp is in it, usually scallops, sometimes mussels are in there too. And it's like this crispy ass Rice that they cook in this big, big pot. It's so good. You love paella.
- [94:18]
D
Sounds amazing. Yeah.
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A
All right, so if you want to trace things, back in Persia, they found archaeology, archaeological shit from a hundred thousand years ago. So they've. They've found a lot of really old stuff. By 5000 BC they already had agriculture going, they had farms, they had cities going. In 5000 BC there is this one place, I believe it's called Yazd Y A Z D. You can visit a flame. They've got a flame that's been on fire there for 1500 years. How crazy is that one? Yeah, same flame.
- [95:04]
B
I'm calling Cap on that.
- [95:06]
A
You're calling Cap?
- [95:07]
D
Yeah, Taking a knee.
- [95:10]
B
Shout out seven. You just don't think that just seems implausible. Okay, I'll have to look into it. What's the name of it?
- [95:19]
D
Clearly they cover it, right? It's like in a. It's in a structure.
- [95:22]
A
It's in. It's in a desert city called Yazd Y A Z D. And it's called the Atash Behram. A T A S H B E H R A M. The Fire Temple of Yazd. Yeah. So tell me about the Fire Temple
- [95:37]
B
of Yazd is a Zoroastrian fire temple in Yazd, Iran. It enshrines the Atash Baram, meaning victorious fire. Dated to 470 AD, it is one of the nine Atash Barams, the only one of the highest grade fires in Iran, where Zoroastrians have practiced their religion since 400 BC.
- [96:01]
D
This is one of the cooler shits humans have done, if this is the case.
- [96:05]
A
Yeah.
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B
Veneration of fire has its roots in the older practice of keeping a hearth fire burning continually, especially during the bitterly cold winters so characteristic of the steppes of Central Asia, when the early Indo European speaking peoples led a nomadic life in which fire was a source of warmth, light and comfortable.
- [96:25]
A
So are you seeing anything that would lend you to believe that maybe it hasn't been going.
- [96:29]
B
I'm seeing a lot about it. This fire has been burning for over 1400 years. Let's go to Instagram.
- [96:34]
A
Okay.
- [96:36]
B
That's where they take you now.
- [96:38]
A
So are you going to go back? Like, how far back are you going to scroll on the post? Like, okay, February 2nd. Well, I'm watching 2015. Okay. There's a picture.
- [96:48]
D
It has. It has its own Instagram.
- [96:50]
B
No, this is just a video of
- [96:52]
D
a guy talking about it that reminds me of. You remember the egg Instagram?
- [96:56]
A
I do, yep.
- [96:58]
B
I was at college.
- [96:59]
D
Was A big thing. It was. I think the whole goal was like, get more followers than Kim Kardashian or some. Right.
- [97:05]
A
How many likes can this egg get?
- [97:07]
D
Yeah, yeah. Likes. That's what it was. Something like that. I partook in it. And then it started to slowly crack over time. Did it ever hatch? Whatever happened? I think I lost interest.
- [97:17]
A
I don't know. There was another thing that they had like that, which was just. It was like a fountain pen almost, that was dripping ink. It's like, when is the drop of ink going to actually fall?
- [97:30]
B
I found the post. It says, let's set a world record together and get the most liked post on Instagram, beating the current world record held by Kylie Jenner of 18 Million. We got this hashtag, like the egg. Hashtag egg soldiers. My fiance liked this post along with 60 million other people.
- [97:49]
A
Wow. Anybody else that you follow?
- [97:52]
B
I don't think so.
- [97:54]
A
That would be. It'd be good. Or.
- [97:56]
B
I'm sure.
- [97:56]
A
Oh, where are they now?
- [97:58]
B
Letting me click on the pictures.
- [98:00]
A
Catch up with the people that, you know that. Like the egg.
- [98:02]
B
Oh, yeah. Madeline Conroy.
- [98:04]
A
Oh, great.
- [98:05]
C
I was there.
- [98:06]
A
Any comment as an egg soldier?
- [98:09]
C
Aye, aye, Captain.
- [98:10]
B
Mackenzie. Lozano.
- [98:11]
A
Mackenzie. Stand by your leg.
- [98:14]
C
What year was that? 24.
- [98:16]
B
I was in college. It was probably 16 or 17.
- [98:19]
C
Yeah. I was in high school.
- [98:22]
B
Jake Malasek. Jack McCarthy. Nick to Rainey. Bobby Fino. You see me Barstool Pat. I mean, almost everyone I follows on here.
- [98:36]
D
It was. It was a thing. It was.
- [98:38]
E
You had to be there.
- [98:38]
C
Yeah.
- [98:39]
B
I remember it.
- [98:40]
D
Hall of Fame.
- [98:41]
B
I can't imagine I liked it. Literally or figuratively. I mean. Yeah.
- [98:49]
D
Moment.
- [98:50]
A
Yeah. I noticed that you.
- [98:51]
B
Everyone I followed.
- [98:52]
A
I noticed that you've conveniently stopped talking about this fire that's probably been going for 1500 years.
- [98:57]
B
You told me to go to the egg. I set fire to the rain.
- [99:02]
A
It's just interesting. So, yeah. They claim that the Zoroastrians have been keeping this flame up for. That would. What do you think the international outcry would be? Big T. If, like, we invaded Iran and we extinguished the longest burning flame. You think people get upset?
- [99:17]
D
That would be. I'm against this.
- [99:19]
A
That would be. I feel like people would not be happy about.
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B
I think we have people who work in our government who. That's. Their whole job is like, hey, if you're going to bomb this place, their job is to make sure that you're not bombing a religious site or something.
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A
Do you think those people are still working in the government right now? Pete, Hegsen was, he was like this is, do we just take out a school? I think he said this is the first non woke war.
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B
Did he say that?
- [99:45]
A
Pretty much, yeah. He was like we're fighting like we're not fighting politically correct wars anymore.
- [99:50]
B
I don't know that that's an issue of political correctness. I think it's to ensure that you don't worsen anything beyond.
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A
I agree. If you like destroy an old statue or something like that then that can, that can like change the image of your country and your army. But yeah, shout out that flame.
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B
And the egg.
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A
And the egg. So you can look at Iranian history three ways. You've got the pre Islamic ancient period which went until about 651 AD. Then there was the Islamic era which ended 1800 AD and then the modern era that started in about 1800. And I guess we can do this like in a nutshell. Basically Xerxes invaded Greece and was like my army's gonna you up Greece. And then Greece was like yo, we got Sparta. We got these crazy that will mess you up at the gates of hell. And then they kind of messed Xerxes up a little bit. But Xerxes also like he took some names too. Like it was kind of mutually each other up for a while. Then Xerxes had to go back to Persia and just kind of focus on building up Persia for a while. And then Alexander the Great was like I'm going to finish off what my forebearer started against Xerxes. And then Alexander the Great pretty much got stopped in Persia and shut him out. Now then, then Persia maybe made some mistakes. Mistakes were made because there were some diplomats that rolled into town and were like hey, we want to talk to you about maybe sharing trade, working out some sort of peace treaty between our two armies. And Persia was like how about we just kill you instead? Killed the diplomats that came into town. You know who sent those diplomats?
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B
No.
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A
Genghis Khan. Nice. Oops. In the words of Jeffrey Epstein, oops. Yeah, that was. There were a lot of oopses that happened after that. So then they kind of got taken over for a while by the Mongols and basically yada yada yada. We can get through a lot of this stuff because there's just a lot of ancient history that would take a million years to get through. But in doing some research for this episode did a lot of like looking back at, at old Persian art and architecture and they kind of, they can get very flashy. Persians are like, they have a distinct Style of art. And it is pretty amazing that's lasted this long, like, through all these different empires that have been in and around their part of the world. They've got their distinct style that, like, just sticks around no matter who takes them over. Good rugs, Great rugs. Great designs in their temples. Like, fantastic clothes throughout the years.
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D
They are.
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A
They. I'll say this about Persia. They got that on. Like, they put that on, and it doesn't matter if it's Alexander the Great or if it's Genghis Khan. Like, two of the biggest conquerors in world history that took over their. Their dojo for a little bit. Like, their. Stayed around through that and lasted on the other side of that. So they're like old
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D
civilizations that you feel like it tickles your fancy when you look at their architecture, when you look at their art, when you look at their culture, their clothes, their food. Is there anything that. When you look at that, you're like, man, that just something. It touches something inside me. Or if I was to believe in past lives. Right. You feel closely connected to that culture enough to be like, maybe I existed in that place somehow?
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B
Yeah, Definitely not that strongly, but Italy. I think all the architecture in Italy is cool. I love Italian food.
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A
Ireland, sometimes.
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D
Okay.
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A
I've been there a few times, and every time I'm there, I'm like, yeah, this is.
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D
I remember nostalgia.
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A
I remember this beer.
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D
I used to come to this pub.
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A
Yeah, I remember. I remember being drunk here.
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D
I used to beat my wife and come to this.
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A
No, no, no, no, no.
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D
Mine is Japanese.
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A
Oh, yeah.
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D
Well, I got two, like, the old. Like the Samurai Jones in the villages and then the Egyptian, obviously. Just. I don't know what it is about that place.
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A
Mystical Mad Dog McKenzie. You guys have a culture that you're like. Yeah, I live there.
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E
I was gonna say
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A
Ireland is just. It's. It's an easy country to fit into.
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C
Yeah. Yeah.
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B
Let me be clear. I'd never live anywhere other than the US of A. Oh, well. Proud under any circumstances.
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C
I haven't. I mean, I also loved. I don't think I could do the food forever. Yeah, I loved Scotland.
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A
Scotland's nice.
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C
Don't know if I could do the food.
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A
You didn't love the food? I. I had really good food when I was in Scotland.
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C
Really?
- [105:16]
A
Yeah. At just, like, pubs and stuff.
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D
Right.
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C
I guess I could all. I mean, like, Irish food isn't necessarily,
- [105:23]
A
like, it's winter food. It's like.
- [105:25]
C
It's a. I'd be a little bit huskier. There.
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A
I would say comfort food. Ireland is the buffalo of Europe.
- [105:32]
C
So true.
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A
Right?
- [105:34]
C
So true.
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A
Like, it's all the food there is designed to just keep you warm.
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D
Yeah.
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A
And you don't get the snowness, but it's like kind of wet all the time. But that doesn't matter because we got a lot of meat pies. You want a side of mashed potatoes? Okay. Here's some beer. Yeah, that's like. That's. That's European buffalo.
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C
I don't know. I haven't been to a ton of countries yet, period. So I don't have a lot of experience to work with.
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A
Where have you been?
- [106:06]
C
America, Canada, Dominican Republic, Ireland, England, Scotland.
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A
Okay. That's not bad for your age.
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E
Yeah, I've only been to Canada.
- [106:21]
A
Just Canada?
- [106:22]
E
Yeah.
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A
Which is pretty much like your neighbor.
- [106:24]
E
Pretty much the same. Yeah, same thing.
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A
Did you ever take a day trip to Canada?
- [106:28]
E
No,
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C
I took.
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B
Did not.
- [106:31]
A
We got to get you guys traveling more. This is the decade where you do a lot of traveling.
- [106:34]
E
I'm going to Barcelona and London this year, so that'll be fun.
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C
I love London.
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A
Barcelona is the coolest.
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B
In one trip or separate?
- [106:42]
E
In one trip. My friend's getting married in Barcelona, so we're doing that.
- [106:47]
A
And then what time of year?
- [106:49]
E
In August.
- [106:50]
A
Oh, yeah. You're going to have the best time.
- [106:52]
E
I'm very excited.
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A
Barcelona, right on the beach.
- [106:56]
E
You.
- [106:56]
A
Yeah. Get some paella. Barcelona.
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C
I had a roommate in college who studied abroad in Barcelona and came back like that. And Ibiza. I went to Ibiza for a trip and I wanted to strangle her.
- [107:08]
A
God, if I had to do it again, I would. I would probably. I would try to study abroad. Yeah, that seems like just the best time. Like a. What a. What an amazing time that would be to be 20 years old in Barcelona.
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C
Right, Barcelona.
- [107:25]
A
Although being 20 years old in the Shenandoah Valley, Virginia was pretty cool too.
- [107:29]
C
Yeah.
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A
So. Yeah, back to. Back to Persia. So after they kind of maintained throughout all these different dynasties and conquerors, they kind of pop back up in the 1900s with the constitutional revolution. So that was their first revolution. They're based on the British model. They had parliament. And then that didn't really last for too long. There was some sugar price riots and protests. And In January of 1906, the. The Leader agreed to the demands and said, okay, we will develop a court system, a separate court system to help fix the price of sugar. So they made a national assembly and yada, yada, yada. There were some more documents that were signed establishing the Iranian constitution, which, by the way, I've tried to learn about Iran's former government. Good luck. That's. That's all I'm going to say. Like you, we should really talk to somebody who is an expert in studying this, because the way that their government operates is just, it's, it's crazy. And the way that it's always operated, by always, I mean, like back to the 1900s, very complicated. But I think that if you were to ask, if you were like, try to teach American government to somebody that was not already familiar with it, that's probably pretty complicated too, right? Like a civics class,
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B
is it?
- [109:02]
A
I think so, yeah. Like two different houses, one based on population, the other not based on population.
- [109:08]
B
Yeah, but we at least have, like, what they do. Like, the branches are pretty clear. We don't have like a monarchy that kind of has power, kind of doesn't.
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A
Yeah.
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D
Then there's a electoral college. To people that have no knowledge of it would be difficult.
- [109:24]
B
Yeah, that's weird.
- [109:25]
A
But, yeah. Why is it a college?
- [109:29]
D
I don't know. The etymology, the root of the etymology to that.
- [109:32]
A
Yeah. I guess the idea is that they, they don't. They want all parts of the country represented in electing a leader, not just the, the big cities.
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D
Are you talking about the root of the word or the actuality?
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A
The actuality of it, like.
- [109:51]
D
Yeah, that's what they want. They want representation unfairly to rule, rule errors as opposed to more populated.
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A
Like, if you want to keep a big group of states together, then the states that don't have as high a population need to feel like they're included in the decision dei. Yeah, true, true. So, yeah, Iran has had a, a couple of revolutions. They changed their name to Iran back in 1935, which was a pretty big turning point for the country. And it was a manifestation of Iran, Iran's efforts to rebrand itself. It was trying to get away from the idea of, like, people thought in their heads. Like when they thought Persia, they thought like, mysticism and like magic lamps and genies and, and rugs and stuff. And they were trying to get away from that and to try to, like, become more of a power player on the world stage. Like, looking forward, not just looking back. And so they thought one way to get away from that was to change their name and get rid of the title of Persia, which I, I think that was pretty short. So Persia's got. It just. They didn't switch pops. Yeah, it pops. So they were neutral during World War II, but again, like we said, Britain was concerned about all the Germans that took over or that were there. So there was a joint plan between the British and the Russians to enforce their values and. And their interests. And then there was a CIA coup, so. And it does go back to the oil, but it was in 1946. Soviets were occupying Azerbaijan, but there was a Soviet slash American, Great Britain. There was a lot of power players that were trying to get unfettered access to Iran's oil, and they tried to nationalize the oil industry. Iran did back in 1951, which a lot of other countries have done. But there was a lot of opposition to that, including opposition from the Shah. And the Shah was supported by foreign interests, and the local leaders kind of pushed him out. Then in 1953, the guy that pushed the Shah out, the guy who was in favor of doing the nationalization, keeping the Persian oil in Persia, he was taken out in a coup that was financed by the United States and by Great Britain. It was a CIA plot that was led by Teddy Roosevelt's grandson, Kermit Roosevelt Jr. We don't have enough Kermits anymore.
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D
By the way, I was about to say it's a name.
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A
Kermit. You don't like Kermit?
- [112:55]
D
I like it for the frog. And that's it.
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B
Kermit Davis was basketball coach.
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A
I was going to say, I feel like you name your son Kermit. That kid is going to play Major League baseball. Can't you. Can't you see a Kermit coming up?
- [113:08]
B
Yeah. And Kermit is a kid. Like a Max Clark. Do you know about Max Clark?
- [113:12]
A
No.
- [113:12]
B
He's the Tigers. He was a top pick year or two ago, and he wears, like, 10 chains and sunglasses. And that's a Kermit.
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A
Okay. That's a Kermit.
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B
Kermit would have the swoopy blonde hair.
- [113:22]
A
Yeah. Okay, maybe where. Yeah, where all the accessories when you step into the batter's box.
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B
Yeah. Elbow guard, hand guard, shin guard.
- [113:31]
A
Yeah, I'm familiar with the tight. And they all have, like, one little, like, highlighter color on him.
- [113:37]
B
Oh, well, everybody does that.
- [113:39]
A
It's got one yellow highlighter stripe on it.
- [113:41]
B
Yeah. All their gloves are green.
- [113:43]
A
He would have his. He would have his own logo before he got to the league, before he took it at bat. Just be a K. Although that'd be a great logo for a pitcher.
- [113:52]
B
Yeah. What's the last name?
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D
Rodriguez.
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A
Kermit. Oh, Kermit Rodriguez. Yeah.
- [114:02]
B
That's a guy you don't know. What's Coming.
- [114:04]
A
Yeah. You really don't watch out, he better be captain because if. If he's not, he's going to be the captain of the team. Just without a C on it. That guy's. Yeah, he's got. He's got swag. Kermit South. Kermit Soulsby.
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B
Soulsby.
- [114:25]
C
Where's Kermit from?
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A
S O L E SBY Kermit Soulsby.
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B
Okay.
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A
Kermit Soulsby. He is from.
- [114:34]
C
Is he Southern?
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A
I'm. I'm going back and forth between.
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B
Kermit strikes me as a do in Alabama.
- [114:40]
A
Okay. I was, I was thinking similarly. I was thinking maybe he could be Huntsville. Is, is Dothan in the outskirts of Huntsville? Is it close by?
- [114:53]
B
Don't quote me on that.
- [114:54]
A
Kermit Soulsby definitely left handed, right?
- [114:58]
D
He's left handed.
- [114:58]
A
Switch. Switch hitter. Whoa, Scrappy kid.
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D
Okay.
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A
He's got the biggest eye, black triangles underneath his eyes.
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C
Dothan is in the southeast corner. I would say the nearest kind of city is Troy, Alabama. It's nowhere near Hudson.
- [115:18]
A
What high school did Jameis go to?
- [115:19]
C
Jameis Winston.
- [115:20]
A
Yeah.
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B
Hang on. He's from. Is he from Enterprise, Alabama?
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C
I have it right here.
- [115:29]
A
What is it?
- [115:30]
B
Where is he from?
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C
Hueytown.
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A
Hueytown.
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B
Yeah.
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A
All right. Kermit Soulsby's from Hueytown, Alabama. And he's got the, he's got the blonde swoops. He's got the giant eye black that goes down like past his mouth. Yeah. He's got, he's got a brim so flat on his hat that it almost even turns up at the end. And he's got every piece of protective equipment on ever. And three different chains that he wears. One that he puts on before he steps up to the plate.
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B
Plays four years in the big leagues, then goes back home, becomes the sheriff.
- [116:10]
E
Sheriff Kermit, he's like tick tock famous while he's playing.
- [116:14]
A
But then he, he gets arrested for tax evasion. Oh, interesting as a sheriff.
- [116:22]
C
Oh, interesting.
- [116:23]
A
He was, he was confiscating certain things and reselling them, but not like illegal things. But like if he, if he managed, if he had to serve an eviction notice and that family happened to have like a couple old cars laying around.
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D
Gets caught with a speedball. It.
- [116:42]
A
Yeah, yeah, there you go. He would sell those cars after, like, he would. He would accelerate the time that it would take for somebody to claim that property. He'd be like, well, nobody's claiming it. I'll claim it. Then he would sell those cars. Then he would get. He wouldn't file the correct taxes.
- [116:57]
B
This sounds kind of like I saw this story just right before we started recording. Have you seen this guy who won the primary for a sheriff in Arkansas?
- [117:07]
A
No.
- [117:08]
B
So he's awaiting a murder trial because he killed the guy who raped his daughter. And he, he said like the legal system in this county has failed me. I'm going to become the sheriff. And he won the Republican primary for sheriff.
- [117:27]
A
Oh shit.
- [117:28]
B
And he's, he's been charged with murder. He's awaiting trial.
- [117:32]
A
I mean if that's what happened. And he killed.
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B
His name's Aaron Spencer.
- [117:36]
A
Okay let me look this up because there was a guy like that in Louisiana that ended up murdering a dude that kidnapped and molested his son. And there's a famous, like it was
- [117:47]
B
on the, he's at like a phone bag.
- [117:49]
A
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah I've seen. And then the judge I think just gave him credit for like I don't know if it was time served but I don't think the guy spent any time in jail. He was charged like third degree manslaughter or whatever it was like yeah, you, nobody, nobody here blames you for that.
- [118:03]
B
In 2024 Spencer allegedly woke up to find his 14 year old daughter missing from her bed. Spencer searched the neighborhood and found his daughter in a car with 67 year old Michael Fossler. According to court documents he then chased the car down and drove it off the road before shooting and killing Fossler. Fossil was facing over 40 child sex crimes. Child sex crime charges involving Spencer's daughter when he was shot
- [118:27]
A
which he had
- [118:28]
B
done this before it says involving Spencer's daughter. So yeah, I don't know how that works. I just saw this story in the last two hours.
- [118:40]
A
Oh wow. So he's currently accused, he has not been convicted.
- [118:48]
B
Correct.
- [118:50]
A
He's awaiting his murder trial. My guess is that he will especially if he's sheriff.
- [118:58]
B
What if he becomes the sheriff before then? Yeah, you can't drop charges against your because that's the, the DA's office but
- [119:06]
A
you can work closely with the DA to ensure that the charges against you are dropped. If you, if you want a good working relationship as the sheriff with the da I feel like the DA will list will hear you out.
- [119:18]
B
Spencer's awaiting trial for second degree murder which was supposed to commence in January but has been postponed without a new date set. Stands accused in the 2024 shooting of Michael Fossler who was accused of sexually abusing Spencer's daughter. Thin 13 year old daughter.
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D
Wow.
- [119:32]
B
I mean yeah, best of luck Getting a jury in Arkansas to convict that guy.
- [119:38]
A
No, that guy.
- [119:38]
B
Like why would you even charge him?
- [119:42]
A
I guess in theory because you can't have vigilantes running around. But that just in case you're wrong as a vigilante.
- [119:50]
B
But if you can get a conviction, it's supposed to be part of the calculus. Like even if someone committed. Now obviously if it's murder different, but for a lot of crimes they're like, yeah, we, we think this guy did this, but nobody's going to convict him. So we just didn't even.
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A
Yeah, maybe you, maybe you're a prosecutor, you charge them, but you put like your worst guy on it and you're like, you don't have to work super hard on this case. Like if you want to, if you want to make a couple clerical errors, that would be fine.
- [120:18]
B
Fossler was facing 43 criminal counts in the teens case, including Internet stalking of a child, sexual assault, sexual indecency with a child and possession of child pornography. Spencer admitted to killing the alleged abuser after a confrontation while Fossler was out on bail, but is pleaded not guilty in the murder case. So he got arrested for this? Yeah, got out on bail, which given those charges you absolutely should not. And then like kidnapped the girl.
- [120:44]
A
That's what it sounds like.
- [120:46]
B
Yeah. You can kill that guy.
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D
Yeah, yeah. I don't know that I would kill him. Honestly.
- [120:52]
A
I'm not going to be upset that he's dead.
- [120:55]
D
No, I'm just saying like, you know, I'm a father of daughters. I don't know that killing them is satisfactory. I, I would probably like tie this up in my garage and beat his ass every day, feed him and just whoop his ass maybe for years too straight. Every day. Like that is. Ah, bro, that's why I like death is like that death penalty. I don't really think it's satisfactory. They kind of get off, you know, like, I need you to suffer, dog. And that, that is morbid. I understand that is morbid. But that, that type shit also isn't
- [121:28]
B
death row like the better part of prisons. I don't like, guys are like, I enjoy being on death row more than the regular.
- [121:35]
A
And it's more, you do get more one on one time. Like it's not like you're out in gin pop if you're in death row.
- [121:45]
B
Right.
- [121:45]
A
And I think they have to take, they have to like look more carefully after you because they can't have you die ahead of time because then it's like the actual justice that was Prescribed to you will never be served. So they kind of have an interest in keeping you alive until they have to kill you.
- [122:01]
B
So we, we want this guy to win.
- [122:04]
A
I don't know anything about his pol. Like, is he going to be a good sheriff? What are his policies as sheriff? I think we can say he's anti pedophile, which is good.
- [122:12]
B
Sure.
- [122:16]
A
Yeah.
- [122:16]
B
I just, I saw that story right before we started.
- [122:18]
A
I don't know about his candidacy. I will say. I will say free him. What's his name?
- [122:23]
B
Aaron Spencer.
- [122:24]
A
Free Aaron Spencer.
- [122:27]
B
Forgive me for profiling. Lanoki County, Arkansas. I don't imagine there's going to be stiff Democratic competition.
- [122:37]
A
Probably not, no.
- [122:38]
B
What cities are in Lanoki County?
- [122:41]
A
Probably not. If it's a county you haven't heard of in Arkansas, I would imagine so.
- [122:46]
B
This looks like it. It's just east of Little Rock. Okay, I'm seeing Carlisle, Arkansas, England, Arkansas. Boy, you couldn't find two more different places than England, Arkansas, Sylvania, Butlerville. Yeah, I'm just going to take a guess that he's got it locked up at this point.
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A
Congratulations, Taren Spencer.
- [123:13]
B
I think about every year when Memphis and Navy play in football. Like, can you find two more opposite universities?
- [123:21]
A
Oh, yeah, yeah, I got one.
- [123:24]
B
What's that?
- [123:25]
A
They have played in a neutral site game recently. Lsu, byu.
- [123:30]
B
Sure.
- [123:31]
A
Yeah. Yeah. If we ever get Arizona State, Liberty.
- [123:38]
B
Liberty played Oregon.
- [123:39]
A
They did, yeah.
- [123:41]
D
Yeah.
- [123:42]
A
Liberty plays against like. What's that school up there? Is it Bard up in Oregon?
- [123:48]
B
Not familiar. Is that Bard College?
- [123:50]
A
I think Bard might be Big T. We should almost.
- [123:52]
B
Is that like the liberal arts to end all liberal arts?
- [123:55]
C
If art is in a state. New York.
- [123:57]
A
Oh, Bartis. What's the one I'm thinking about in Oregon then? I think it starts with a B. There's one in Oregon. No, there's one in Oregon. I want to send big T to
- [124:09]
C
top liberal arts colleges in Oregon. Include Reed.
- [124:11]
A
Oh, read, read. That's the one. Yeah. Reed. It's like in Portland. My God, Big T. You would. You would love it.
- [124:19]
B
Portland is enough. Let's look into Reed college.
- [124:22]
C
Acceptance rate. 24.
- [124:24]
A
Tough school to get into.
- [124:25]
E
If you went to where I went to college. Very liberal.
- [124:29]
C
$67,000 a year.
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A
Yeah, you would. You would love this. It's like the most lib place ever. But it's also one of the most expensive colleges to go to.
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B
I'm not seeing a lot on Twitter about this place, but.
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A
Reads A.
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B
They might be. They might have moved to Blue Sky.
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A
Yeah, you won't Find them posting on X Blue sky might even be like too much for him.
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B
Here's a what is the school culture like at Reed? Hi, potential Reedy here. I've heard a lot about how Reed has a very specific culture to it. I was hoping some Reedies could go more in depth about what the community is actually like.
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A
What are they saying?
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B
I found the students to be very passionate, but also pretty chill.
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A
That doesn't make a lot of sense.
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B
Awful. Don't come here. Reed is maybe the most liberal arts college a liberal arts college has ever been. Lots of interest in niche and specific academic topics. A huge focus on academic rigor. Both very earnestly progressive and performatively so. Lots of rich kids pretending to be poor, etc.
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A
You love that.
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B
Yeah, it sounds like a hell of a place.
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A
Man on the street. Man on the street. Back to Persia, Iran real quick. So where we left off was at Kermit Kermit Roosevelt Jr. The grandson of Teddy Roosevelt, helped helped establish a coup that overthrew their leader because we wanted them to be more friendly to giving the United States oil and hooking them up, helping us with what we wanted. So yeah, Roosevelt, he seized control of the press. He, he bribed everybody in the Persian press and he fed a lot of, a lot of propaganda against their old ruler. And then he convinced the people that were in the Islamic clergy over there that the old ruler was going to be a threat. And then he tried to arrest this guy in the middle of the night. But at the very last minute, the coup failed and their old leader announced on the radio like, hey, I just beat the United States. They tried to coo me out. I'm still here. But then Roosevelt heard that and he was like, we're going to do a second coup since you're trying to spike the football on me. So then they signed over 40% of all of Iran's oil fields to the United States companies. So the second coup worked out. They put their old leader in prison and then put him in house arrest for the rest of his life. So now they got a new ruler after this, after the second coup led by Kermit was successful. So 1963, they've got a new leader, the Shah.
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D
Real quick, a fun fact about that era.
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A
Yep.
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D
They originally in it was like 1908, it was called when the British struck oil over there or found oil over there, they called it the Anglo Persian Oil Company. And then it slowly changed its names over time because they were trying to distance from the name Persia, they changed it to The Anglo Iranian Oil Company. And then after the couple coup they changed it to British Petroleum. And then after that coup they changed it to bp. So the BP that you know now comes from that.
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B
Yeah, that's because I don't buy from the British.
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A
Who do you buy it from?
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B
Well, Bucky's if I had my way.
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A
But where does Bucky's get their gas from?
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B
I have no idea. Usually I go to Costco.
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D
I'm gonna ask. Hold on.
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A
Yeah, where's Bucky's? Be careful here.
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B
Better not be from bp. I mean it all comes from the same place if you go back far enough.
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A
Some are Venezuela. Although the Venezuelan crude's a little bit different. I'm not an oil guy, but they can tell me Buc EE's.
- [128:40]
D
Buc EE's sells its own branded fuel supplies exclusively by RB Stewart Petroleum out of Angleton, Texas. And that's why local Southeast Texas petroleum distributor that has been Bucky's fuel partner since the beginning. The two companies essentially grew up together.
- [128:55]
B
Rock on. What about Costco? Because that's where I go here.
- [129:01]
A
Wonder where that that Texas company gets their oil from though.
- [129:04]
B
It just says major local refineries and regional distributors for Costco.
- [129:09]
D
Same it says Costco itself doesn't purchase from any single supplier. They receive fuel from the major refineries and distributors that supply gas stations in any given area. So the source changes by region and whoever has the best price that day,
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B
it's good for me, I guess.
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A
All right, so we do this coup, we take over, we find people that will sell us access to their oil, people that are friendly to the United States. And I guess job well done to Kermit for pulling that one off. Even though it took you two attempts at a coup. And there's the white revolution that started at that point. So the Shah, the new guy that's selling all the oil to the United States, he's trying to do social reform. So he's trying to make Iran western. So he's nationalizing some of the forests there. He's selling the state owned enterprises to the private sector which he's then opening up to western interests. He's starting to battle illiteracy. He founds a literacy corps. And he also is very progressive when it comes to how they treat women. So he granted women the right to vote in Iran. He increased the woman's minimum legal marriage age to 18. I don't know what it was before. My guess is probably pretty young. And he gave them legal rights and divorce. He gave women legal rights and child custody. And that drew the ire of some of the hardline, more fundamentalist people like Ayatollah Khomeini. And so this shah, this pro Western shah that we installed, he makes an enemy and some of the old school clerics there, like Khomeini, and there's also a lot of students, there's a lot of religious students that are studying in a seminary and they start to protest some of the more Western, pro Western things that the Shah is doing. Then the government shoots a lot of them. It makes the protests even catch on further and further. And the fact that this guy that we had put installed as their leader is now being challenged by the old school clerics. A lot of Iran starts to turn on their former leader because they, they view him as like a puppet of the United States government, which he was. But he was also like way more progressive and had like a lot of good things that he was doing just at the price of kind of selling the country out to being dominated by the United States. So while we have like our revolutions in the United states in the 1960s, which more about like, I don't know, peace and love and just like fighting the man that end up being more on the liberal side of things, this was a revolution that was kind of the, it had the same revolutionary spirit to it, but it was more like, we don't trust this guy that's been put in place by foreign powers. So we're going to overcorrect and go back to the hard line ways that things used to be. So the 1970s there was a religious revival. Khomeini led it, the ayatollah. And in 1971, the pro Western Shah that ruled the country had a celebration of the 22 500th anniversary of the Persian monarchy. So he saw himself as being like a Persian King. And in 1976, he replaced the Islamic calendar with a Persian calendar. And that made all the religious clerics very, very pissed off. And that in turn pissed the Shah off at the religious clerics. And then he had his secret police that would arrest people, kill people, and it didn't matter who you were, if you just opposed him, he was going to you up and he was going to put you in jail. And a lot of people fled Iran in that time. A lot fled to the United states. And in 1978, there were anti Shah demonstrations all over the place. And the Shah had to get out of town and the religious groups kind of took power at that point on, on September 8, the Shah Security Force fired on a large group of demonstrators. They killed hundreds, they wounded thousands. And then he had to get out of Town in January 1979, and Ayatollah Khomeini came back. People were pumped that he was back because he's like, we're getting rid of this Persian monarchy nonsense. We're going back to the Islamic Republic and we're going to be governed by the Islamic calendar and we're going to roll back a lot of the more progressive things that we've done in the past with this guy that was just a puppet of the United States. So in addition to that, were going to also storm the US Embassy and a bunch of students and militants took all the people at the U.S. embassy hostage. And then they, they held them for 444 days in Iran. And then Ronald Reagan became president and got him back on day one, which was interesting timing because a lot of people were like, hey, that's interesting that they just gave him up on, on the first day. Right. I just thought that was interesting.
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B
Art of the deal.
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A
Art of the deal. Yeah. So that pretty much brings us to modern day around. Like there's also the Iraq Iran war that happened in the 1980s after that. But that was kind of the, the new government of Iran that we just discussed how they got into place. But it's that same same group, so they fought the war with Iraq from 1980 to 1988. And yeah, that's where we're at. That's where at right now. Anything else?
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D
Beautiful? No, it's interesting. Like you said, interesting. Time to be alive, man.
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A
Yeah. A lot of shit's going on. A lot of shit's going on. I, I can't say that I love Iranian food. I don't know if that's a controversial. Have you guys had Iranian food?
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B
What is?
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D
I don't know that I have a
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A
lot of, A lot of dates. There's a lot. They love dates. I don't know what it is about dates, but they cannot get enough dates. And I'm not a big fan.
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C
It says Iranian food is characterized by rice, slow cooked stews.
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A
The stews are good.
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C
Kebabs.
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A
Kebabs are good. Yeah.
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D
I. With those
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C
popular Iranian dishes, gourmet, sabzi. I'm so, I'm so sorry if you're Iranian. Kebabs, tanchin, which is a savory baked rice cake with yogurt, saffron and chicken. There's saffron again.
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A
Maybe I just need to eat more Iranian food.
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C
It kind of is. Yeah, it's a lot of stews. It's a lot of stews with, like, fruit incorporated. Like this. Okay, so Feson June is a rich, tangy stew made from pomegranate paste and ground walnuts.
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A
I'm not into that.
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C
See, that's interesting. How do you get there?
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A
I don't know. That's the flavor profile that I don't care for in Iranian food is like the. The savory mixed with the nuts.
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C
Yeah. I don't. Yeah. I wonder if there must be a lot of pomegranates there, because some of these foods have, like, pomegranate seed and
- [136:48]
A
a lot of pistachios. I think, too.
- [136:50]
C
Love pistachios. Pistachios.
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A
Pistachios, dates. S. The stews. You have me with the stews. I enjoy the stews. I enjoy the kebabs.
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C
Iranians. Love Iranians. Iranians. Iranians.
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A
I love the yogurt sauces too.
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C
Yes. Love balancing dishes with sour agents like pomegranate, molasses, barberries, and lemon juice. I don't know what a barberry is.
- [137:10]
A
I don't know what a barberry is either.
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C
Let's see what that is.
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A
I don't. I don't love the molasses incorporated into the savory stuff, though. That's where you and I have to part ways.
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C
Right. A barberry is a thorny deciduous or evergreen shrub known for their colorful foliage, often used in landscaping. Hmm. They kind of look like little beans, like little pinto beans.
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A
Okay.
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C
I don't really know. It's not giving me a lot of a flavor profile. Or goji berries. It kind of looks like that.
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A
Okay.
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C
Yeah. Used particularly in Persian cuisine.
- [137:52]
A
I gotta say, I gotta. I gotta. I gotta eat more Iranian food.
- [137:59]
C
Hmm. They have a. One of their most common desserts is chole zard, which is a creamy saffron rice pudding. So saffron tapioca.
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A
I'm out. I'm out on. On Iranian desserts.
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C
They're mixing a lot of the savory and sweet. I'm seeing.
- [138:15]
A
Yeah. What you have to do for me, if you're. If you're a culture that's looking to impress my palette. And I'm sure there are many out there that are in line. Start me off with the appetizers. Like, give me. Give me something to snack on. Just, like, wake up the senses a little bit.
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C
And your. Your best bread.
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A
Yeah, yeah. It's something. Something nice and easy. Easy for me to try the first time. And then I'll be like, oh, Okay. I understand these flavors. And then knock me out with your national dish, like the best dish you got. And then, and only then will we talk about desserts. I don't think that there's a regional or a, like, national cuisine that I only like their desserts.
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C
You don't think.
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A
I think every. No. I have to be. I have to be wowed by everything else. You have to earn my dessert respect. Yes.
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C
I'm seeing a lot of kebabs.
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D
What's the top of your top?
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A
My number one desserts. Who. Okay. All right.
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B
That are not explicitly. That are explicitly not American.
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A
Not American desserts.
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D
Yeah.
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A
This is. Okay.
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B
This is tough because I feel like most places, it's kind of all, you know, variations.
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A
Okay.
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D
Manager sat up, by the way, podcast listeners. He just sat up on us.
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A
Number one, tiramisu. Number two. Oh, Kendrick Drops that song Trace leches.
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D
Okay. Yeah.
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A
They're kind of similar flavor profiles.
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D
Okay.
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A
Number three, Black forest cake.
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C
What culture is that?
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A
Swiss? German.
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C
Oh, that's a good.
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A
Jenny's ice cream flavor from the Black Forest. That's where. That's where my people are from. The 1 16th of my family that gave me my name.
- [140:02]
B
I went to Jenny's ice cream recently.
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C
You hated it, I'm sure.
- [140:07]
B
No, I've been there several times, but the. The price was. It's. I'm pretty. You know, shit costs what it costs. It's too expensive. Everything is now, whatever. For two ice cream cones, I believe it was $23, and I almost didn't pay. Oh, I was shocked. Yeah. But cold stone, anyway. I'd kill to have a. Is there a cold stone around here? I haven't been to one of those.
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C
I've never reached a cold stone to hear this office.
- [140:34]
B
Really?
- [140:35]
C
Yeah.
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E
During.
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C
Yeah, there's one 1.7 miles. Oh, there's three within three miles of us. Kevin.
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B
I'm gonna go there this weekend.
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A
I would also say I don't know if I can put gelato in there, because gelato is ice cream.
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B
I would, but it's.
- [140:50]
C
But it's Italian.
- [140:50]
B
It's. Yeah.
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A
Okay. So. So gelato, if that's the case, gelato is one.
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B
There's a good gelato place down the street from here.
- [141:01]
A
Gelato. One tiramisu to trace leches. Three, Black forest cake, Four. And then I'm going to go crepes. Crepes. Five crepes.
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B
Are you more of a fruit gelato or like chocolate?
- [141:18]
A
I do a scoop. If I do three scoops, I do the stracciatella. Which is like the vanilla with the chocolate, like ribbons in it. Then I'll do some sort of chocolate forward gelato. Whether that's something double chocolate, death by chocolate. And then and only then I'll. I'll add maybe a. Maybe like an orange as my third option or some sort of. Honestly, pistachio. I like going pistachio gelato too.
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D
So peep this. The Tang Dynasty 618-1907 AD is credited for the more modern, like frozen milk treat. So like ice cream. So ancient China, roughly around 200 BC when a mixture of milk and rice was packed into snow to freeze it.
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A
Okay.
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D
The first recorded. I mean, this is.
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B
Ice cream is older than Jesus.
- [142:16]
D
Ice cream is older than Jesus.
- [142:17]
B
Wow. I would. I don't know when I would have guessed ice cream came about. It would have been after that, though.
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A
Is ice cream in the Bible?
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D
I. I doubt that.
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B
I don't recall ever.
- [142:30]
A
Can you imagine how much better church would be if. If Jesus turned water into ice cream? Like every sacrament, it's like you come up and they give you. They gave you the little plastic sample spoon.
- [142:45]
B
Well, there is milk and honey in the Bible, obviously not ice cream.
- [142:50]
A
But that's not the same big tea, you know, that's not the same.
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D
Same.
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B
Honey's having a moment right now. A lot of people doing honeys. Lot of hot honey. Honey and ice creams. Yeah, people are loving honey right now.
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A
It is.
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D
I've never had honey ice cream that
- [143:04]
C
actually I had a really good honeycomb ice cream last week that you can get at a grocery store.
- [143:09]
A
You ever chew on the honeycomb? Chewing on honeycomb, that's. That is. That's American.
- [143:14]
C
That's a Morgan Wallen song.
- [143:16]
A
Yeah. No, you should try it. Like if you get some of the ice creams have pieces of honeycomb in them and so then you can chew on the honeycomb. You don't actually. It's like made of, I think wax. So it doesn't. You don't eat it, you don't swallow it. But it's very satisfying to like, chew on, get all the honey flavor out.
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C
This, this brand called Ice Cream for Bears has a honey honey flavor and it has like huge swirls of honey in it. No free ads, but very, very good. But also $10 a pint.
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A
Is there any Pinterest?
- [143:45]
C
Hate to say that. Hate to say it out loud.
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B
That's.
- [143:47]
C
That's what Jenny's is at the store too.
- [143:50]
A
Is there any honeycomb in this Honey for Bears?
- [143:53]
C
I don't Believe there is honeycomb in it. I believe it was just swirls of honey.
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A
Okay. They need.
- [143:58]
C
And it's sweetened with honey instead of sugar or whatever else. Good ice cream, though.
- [144:04]
B
But again, all this, none of it touches just a perfect chocolate chip cookie. I mean, everything we're talking about, you get the chocolate chip cookie. Right. And there's nothing that touches it.
- [144:15]
A
If there's a good. If it's the perfect chocolate chip cookie, I would agree with that. But I would. I would make the argument that, like, an average ice cream is better than an average chocolate chip cookie.
- [144:27]
B
Warmed or room temperature.
- [144:29]
A
Yeah. You can put it in the microwave. You're not getting it right out of the oven.
- [144:32]
B
Okay. I would need to see what you mean when you say an average chocolate chip.
- [144:36]
A
Like a little bit dry, like a little bit crunchy.
- [144:40]
B
Okay. Like a store bought. Like a Chips Ahoy. Like, what would you.
- [144:42]
A
Where would you say that ranks a Chips Ahoy standard? Yeah, Chips always standard. Probably like. Yeah, that's five or six.
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B
Oh, oh, then. Okay, then. Absolutely not.
- [144:53]
A
What?
- [144:54]
B
Chips ahoy is a 1. 7.
- [144:56]
A
You think chips always bad?
- [144:58]
B
Yes. Really bad.
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A
Well, to be honest, I can't remember.
- [145:01]
B
So if that's.
- [145:01]
A
I can't remember the last time I had a Chips Ahoy standard. I've had like the Chips Ahoy extra chewy.
- [145:07]
B
Okay, but if that's what you mean when you say an average cookie, then I agree with you.
- [145:11]
A
Okay. Yeah. And then ice creams. Anyways, gelato number one.
- [145:16]
B
I was going to say, though, when I asked you about the fruit gelatos. When I do gelato, I find myself I'll only do like strawberry or a fruit.
- [145:24]
A
You don't do that.
- [145:24]
B
When I do ice cream, I'll do chocolate and that kind of.
- [145:27]
A
You should try to do more of the. The chocolate gelato.
- [145:31]
D
Yeah.
- [145:31]
B
For just whatever reason, I love a strawberry gelato. You said orange. I'll do orange. Orange.
- [145:36]
A
Try working your way with a. With pistachio.
- [145:40]
B
I don't know if I'm a pistachio.
- [145:42]
A
Pistachio gelatos are really good. Really good.
- [145:47]
B
All right, maybe I'll look into it. There's a place right across from my apartment.
- [145:51]
A
All right, well, that does it for us on macro.
- [145:55]
D
Real quick. Real quick, real quick. Eric, I don't know if you've seen our. Our guy. Our horse, Jake Knapp is, is. Is picking up a lot of steam in the golf world.
- [146:04]
A
Okay, go on. I. I mean, I have been watching him play. What do you mean? He's.
- [146:07]
D
I think the last four tournaments. He's top 11 or something like that.
- [146:12]
A
Okay. Has he. He has not qualified for the Masters yet, though.
- [146:16]
D
I don't think he's qualified yet, but he's trending that way. I just. I think if he gets. I don't. I don't know the exact qualifications. I want to misspeak, but he's just. He's gaining a lot of steam. A lot of people are starting to notice Jake Knapp and just want to be on the record. Me and you was on him last year. So much so that we bet him to win the Masters and he didn't not qualify to be in the Masters.
- [146:36]
A
Yep. Yep. We're. We're napsters. That's what we are.
- [146:41]
D
We were some napsters really early on. I'm. I'm rooting for my guy.
- [146:45]
A
Okay, well, go Jake Knapp. I'll be watching. He's playing this weekend. He's gotta be, right?
- [146:51]
D
Yep. This is the Arnold Palmer invitation.
- [146:53]
A
Bay Hill. All right, let's go nap. All right, we will see you guys next week. Love you guys.
- [147:02]
B
Goodbye.