What Happened To Good Commercials? | Feb 10, 2026

Summary

Macrodosing: What Happened To Good Commercials?

Episode Date: February 10, 2026
Hosts: PFT Commenter, Arian Foster, Big T, Mad Dog, Barstool Cast
Topic: The Decline of Good Commercials, Super Bowl Recap, Kidnapping Cases, Epstein Files, and Surveillance Society

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Episode Overview

This episode of Macrodosing takes a winding, wide-ranging journey from Super Bowl ads and halftime performances to conspiracy theories and current scandals. The cast critiques the state of modern commercials—especially during the Super Bowl—while weaving in pointed discussions about the game itself, celebrity controversies, government surveillance, and recent headlines like the James Pierce and Epstein cases. The episode blends humor, skepticism, and outrage, reflecting the show’s signature irreverence and brain-tickling deep dives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Super Bowl Recap: Game & Halftime Show (10:21–28:48)

• Game Breakdown: The hosts unpack the Seahawks’ win, with Drake May setting a Super Bowl record for fourth-quarter passing yards, yet coming up short due to Seattle’s dominant defense.

  • “To the casual football fan, it might have been boring. It was great defense played by both teams.” — Host (10:43)
  • “You won a Super Bowl old school style… good defense and running the football.” — Big T (13:52)

• Unique Personal Story: Kenneth Walker’s father, crowd-averse, attends his son’s first NFL game… which just so happens to be his MVP-winning Super Bowl (14:34).

• Super Bowl Halftime Show: Latin superstar Bad Bunny leads a polarizing set.

  • Mixed Takes:
    • “I thought that was fire… I love, like, intricate and unique set designs.” — Arian (16:14)
    • “I was not, I don't know what he said. It sounded fine… I think there are people on both sides just lying their asses off.” — Co-host (17:37)
  • Discussion of performative outrage and tribal social media reactions.
    • “It felt like the takes were pre-written for this one.” — Host (18:16)
    • “If you really, really deeply care about the super bowl halftime show, that's you problem.” — Host (26:50)

• Whitlock’s Critique & Gyrating Debate: Jason Whitlock’s over-the-top tweet denouncing the halftime show as “Birth of a Nation for Latino people” sparks both mockery and a tangent on what counts as “gyrating.” (22:39–25:35)

• Counterprogramming: Barstool’s own alternate halftime shows (Kid Rock, Mency Halftime Experience) are briefly assessed.

  • “We got to do some counter programming next year.” — Host (21:02)

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2. Commercials: “What Happened to Good Commercials?” (72:45–74:31)

• General Dissatisfaction: Consensus that Super Bowl advertising has become both bland and disappointing.
  • “I don't even consider the super bowl commercials a thing anymore. They're just not even very bad. Just pack it in.” — Co-host (73:01)
• Examples: Commercials featuring Jennifer Aniston, Jurassic Park, Coinbase, and a MrBeast puzzle are critiqued for lack of originality or charm. (73:14)
• Nostalgia & Changing Tastes: Acknowledgement that the current critique may sound like “old heads” nostalgia, but the decline seems real. (74:08)

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3. Pepsi Challenge Live Test (4:53–8:15)

• On-air Blind Taste Test: The crew replicates the Pepsi Challenge from the Super Bowl ad, confirming Pepsi Zero Sugar’s superiority over Coke Zero Sugar.
  • “Can A kind of hits you in the freaking mouth with flavor… Can B is more watery.” — Mad Dog (6:42)
  • “Pepsi Zero Sugar tastes way better. It just does.” — Host (8:02)
• Throwback Commercials: Segment underscores how even iconic ads have changed or become less relevant.

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4. Kidnapping Cases & True Crime Pivot (8:37–10:16)

• Brief True Crime Tease: The crew considers devoting a future episode to high-profile kidnappings, referencing a current perplexing case (including allegations of ransom videos and suspicious behavior).

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5. Conspiracy Corner: Epstein Files & Government Cover-Ups (51:30–62:25)

• Epstein Document Discussion: The hosts dissect DOJ files accidentally announcing Epstein’s death a day early, and conflicting evidence about how/when he died.

  • “There is a document that details how they supposedly snuck Epstein’s body out… using a decoy van. I don’t know, man. You could tell me anything.” — Co-host (52:02)
  • “So we found him in a cell, 6:30. We have a press release… before we find him dead. Come on, dog.” — Big T (56:02)

• Theory Debate: Was Epstein killed by shadowy figures, or did he buy his way to a new life? Consensus: suicide seems least likely.

• Ghislaine Maxwell: Discussed for pleading the Fifth in testimony, angling for a pardon in exchange for potential revelations. Moral drags on those who choose silence (58:28).

• Broader Government Distrust: MK-Ultra, CIA whistleblowers, and the US history of covert ops are raised; the cast muses about just how much we don’t know.

  • “Buddy, there’s no telling the things we don’t know.” — Co-host (62:15)
  • “The shit we do know is crazy.” — Big T (62:25)

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6. NFL Scandals & The James Pierce Story (37:04–45:19)

• Summary: The promising rookie is arrested on multiple felonies after a violent domestic incident and assaulting police officers.
• Reflection on Athletes & Abuse: Arian offers insight and dismay at athletes sacrificing careers and traumatizing victims due to inability to manage emotions.
  • “Love to me is not that strong… to throw away your entire life and… put that woman through that trauma… I just never understood that.” — Arian (39:19)
• Falcons' Unending Misfortune: A rundown of Atlanta’s litany of disasters, from Vick to blown leads to scandals (44:04).

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7. Surveillance, AI, and Modern Paranoia (66:27–68:28)

• Ring Doorbell Discussion: The group responds incredulously to a Super Bowl ad touting AI-powered pet recognition and the network’s cooperation with law enforcement.
  • “So every doorbell is just state, like funded surveillance.” — Mad Dog (68:18)
  • “This is insane, and in the. To put it on a commercial, like, touting it like, ‘Hey, you know that we can see you all ways.’” — Big T (67:20)
• References: Minority Report, Enemy of the State, and real-world partnerships with police and Amazon.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Commercials:
  • “I don't even consider the super bowl commercials a thing anymore. They're just not even very bad. Just pack it in.” — Co-host (73:01)
• On the Halftime Show Backlash:
  • “If you really, really deeply care about the super bowl halftime show, that's you problem.” — Host (26:50)
  • “He compared the Bad Bunny halftime show to the film Birth of a Nation.” — Host, referencing Jason Whitlock (22:46)
• On Epstein Conspiracies:
  • “There is a document that details how they supposedly snuck Epstein’s body out… I don’t know, man. You could tell me anything.” — Co-host (52:02)
  • “So we found him in a cell, 6:30. We have a press release… before we find him dead. Come on, dog.” — Big T (56:02)
• On Domestic Violence:
  • “I’ve just never understood this dog… To throw away your life… traumatic to put somebody and their family through that.” — Arian (39:19)
• On Surveillance Tech:
  • “So every doorbell is just state, like funded surveillance.” — Mad Dog (68:18)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Super Bowl Recap: 10:21–28:48
• Pepsi Challenge Taste Test: 4:53–8:15
• Debate over Halftime Show/Whitlock Reaction: 16:14–26:50
• James Pierce Felony Arrest Discussion: 37:04–45:19
• Epstein Files & Conspiracy Theories: 51:30–62:25
• Ring Doorbell/Surveillance State: 66:27–68:28
• Ad Critique, "What Happened to Commercials?": 72:45–74:31

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Tone & Language

The hosts maintain a conversational, sardonic, and sometimes combative tone, true to Macrodosing’s brand: playful digressions, sarcastic riffs, and direct reactions to mainstream narratives and headlines.

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Closing Remarks

The episode ends with a collective shrug about modern advertising and a promise to return Thursday with a deep dive into high-profile kidnappings—a nod to the show’s ongoing quest to “tickle your brain” with oddities, scandals, and the unexplained.

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“We'll be talking about kidnappers… Hit it, Big T. You have the most iconic sign off of all time.” — Co-host (74:31, 74:50)
“Goodbye.” — Big T (74:53)

Transcript

[Host]

Hey, macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Have you guys heard about this polar bear? He did the Pepsi Challenge and realized Pepsi Zero sugar tastes better than Coke Zero sugar. Isn't that right, Mr. Bear? Interesting. So in other words, you know how much taste matters. Do you have any techniques we could share with listeners to help them also accept who they really are? Interesting. So meditation, I think think it's hard to read polar bears. Let's give it a go. Go out and try Pepsi Zero Sugar today. Let your taste decide.

[Big T]

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[Co-host]

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[Big T]

It would be a good match.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

No sweep.

[Host]

No.

[Co-host]

Oh, no, no.

[Big T]

Definitely, definitely not sweep. No, no.

[Host]

This one's going the distance.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Host]

It's about who's got the deeper bench and I think Hate has a deeper bench.

[Co-host]

The role players, they hit on a lot of second round picks.

[Host]

Yeah. The role players for Hate are, I think they, they'll outlast the role players for Love. The superstars are like, that's gonna be a great matchup. Welcome back to Nano Dosing. It's Tuesday, it's February 10th and I'm back in studio for a little bit. Start of the show, gonna rip it with you guys. Catch up for, for a second and then I got a jet. But it was a pleasure listening to you guys do the show last week. There's some good, some good clips that came out I found myself watching online. Did you put PFT's plane corner in?

[Co-host]

Yeah, but we forgot to toss to it. So it was probably just in there. At some point randomly, I just jumped.

[Host]

In and gave the plane corner.

[Co-host]

That was my idea though. Shout out to me.

[Host]

Good job.

[Co-host]

Just forgot to tease it.

[Host]

Shout out. Big tease. Yeah, we got a lot to talk about today. Super bowl was yesterday. Sunday, two days ago. As you're listening to this, a lot of stuff's been going on. I haven't stayed as up to date with the news as I could have because it's. It was super bowl week and so we were doing all sorts of interviews and run around San Francisco, which by the way, Big T, you would really like San Francisco. I'm dead Serious. It's a cool town. It's a very cool town out. If you.

[Co-host]

That's what I hear the problem.

[Host]

I hear the problem with San Francisco as. As it is with so many of our cities is that the part of town that you stay in, if you're. If you're in a hotel.

[Co-host]

Heard y' all weren't in the best spot.

[Host]

No, that's where all the hotels are. It's like the Union Square, like, Tenderloin adjacent area, which is the worst part of town to be.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Co-host]

I've heard Tinderloin.

[Host]

Tenderloin's not great. Not great right now. A lot of people down on their luck there, but if you. If you go outside those areas, it's an awesome city. It's very cool.

[Co-host]

Yeah. I mean, there's a reason people pay 60 in income tax to live there. It's. I'm sure it's great.

[Host]

I've been. I've been to that city twice now. The last time was also for a Super bowl, but this is the first time I really, like, walked around and checked out the entire area, and it was. It's great. You. You would actually really enjoy it there. And the weather this time of year. Perfect.

[Co-host]

I did see that. Or if you're Sam Darnold, like 180 in income tax. You see that?

[Host]

180%. Yeah, I saw. I saw the tweet that you sent over. So there's no way that he has to pay more in income tax than he earns.

[Co-host]

Yes, there is, because they can tax. So I think they were there for eight days. Yeah, so it's taxed eight days out of however many days he works in the season. They tax his full salary.

[Host]

Okay.

[Co-host]

So it ended up being like 250 grand or something. And you only get 100 and something if you win the Super Bowl.

[Host]

So they tax eight days of his yearly salary.

[Co-host]

Correct. Not just the money he gets for the Super Bowl. Okay, so he actually lost money.

[Host]

Is that eight days less than he would have to pay in Washington? How does that work?

[Co-host]

Well, he's just paying it in California as opposed to. Because that's where he was.

[Host]

Okay. But you would. You would love the city.

[Co-host]

I might be headed there this summer.

[Host]

It's beautiful. It's a really nice place. Um, so we're back. And while we were watching the super bowl yesterday, I know I was drinking some Pepsi. Big tea. Were you drinking a Pepsi? Zero sugar, Actually, I don't think that you were, because you're about to taste it for the first Time right now.

[Co-host]

Yeah. We're going to do the Pepsi Challenge that was in the television commercial. And I am excited to do it because I pride myself on being discerning and able to win challenges.

[Host]

Yeah, I mean, you're all about self discovery, right? You're gonna be going to the Bay Area this summer, potentially maybe watching some soccer this year.

[Co-host]

That. That's what they tell me.

[Host]

We're going to be expanding our horizons. So the Pepsi Super Bowl LX spot brought light to a similar phenomenon of discovery and truth. The Pepsi paradox. It's the idea that when labels and bias disappear, cola drinkers prefer the taste of Pepsi. They studied this in the 2025 revival of the Pepsi Challenge. 66% participants agreed. Pepsi Zero sugar tastes better than Coca Cola. Zero sugar. Pepsi wins on taste. And sometimes you got to flip your world upside down to discover what's been there the entire time. Big T, got two cans in front of you?

[Co-host]

Yep. Just popped them.

[Host]

They're both hidden in this box. So I want you to sip them. And in the box, it's also covering up the top of it. So all you can see is the opening of the cans.

[Co-host]

Correct.

[Host]

All right. And Mad Dog, you have one as well.

[Mad Dog]

I do.

[Host]

Okay, so we'll call the one on the left, can A. We'll call the one on the right, can B.

[Co-host]

And let me tell you what I'm going to do. Pft. They want you to drink A first, presumably, maybe, because that's what A. I'm not going to do that.

[Host]

That's how they get you.

[Co-host]

I'm not going to do that. I'm going to drink B first.

[Host]

Okay, go for it.

[Co-host]

Here I go.

[Host]

Mad Dog, are you drinking A or B first?

[Mad Dog]

I'll be traditional, and I'll go with A first.

[Host]

Okay.

[Mad Dog]

This is A.

[Co-host]

This is B for me. Okay.

[Mad Dog]

It's got that classic taste.

[Co-host]

I'm now switching to A.

[Mad Dog]

And I'm switching to B.

[Co-host]

It's because you're a simp. Okay.

[Mad Dog]

Now can B, I will say, has a bit more of an emptiness to it. It's more watery. Can A kind of hits you in the freaking mouth with flavor.

[Host]

The freaking mouth. We got Matt Gruden back there.

[Co-host]

I know she in the freaking mouth, man.

[Mad Dog]

Fernando Mendoza.

[Co-host]

Love this guy.

[Mad Dog]

Like, it's more. Can A is more like caramelly syrupy in a very good way. Can B is giving more. Is it aspartame? Is that. Is that what it is?

[Host]

It could be.

[Mad Dog]

I don't know. But I. I like can A. I really Do.

[Host]

All right.

[Co-host]

I was gonna say it better be a.

[Host]

You, like, can a better as well?

[Mad Dog]

Yes.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Co-host]

If that's the correct.

[Host]

Take a look.

[Mad Dog]

Okay.

[Co-host]

How do I.

[Mad Dog]

How do I.

[Host]

Do you just think you can just take the cardboard out or lift the can out?

[Co-host]

I chose a.

[Mad Dog]

And I chose a. And I chose correctly.

[Host]

Okay. Pull the cans out here. Let them see that you're not lying.

[Co-host]

It's bringing both of them out.

[Mad Dog]

Oh, my Lord have mercy. They really didn't want you to see what was going on.

[Co-host]

I mean. I mean, this is glued in there. Pft. But y' all can see. There's the black can, Pepsi Zero Sugar right here.

[Host]

And lift up the other one so they. They know that.

[Co-host]

I mean, dude, these are super glued y.

[Host]

There's the red.

[Co-host]

There's the Coca Cola Zero Sugar. That one not as good as the Pepsi Zero Sugar.

[Host]

All right, there you have.

[Mad Dog]

It's not even. I like, that's actually crazy how different they taste. I never. I. I never realized that.

[Host]

Yeah, they do. And Pepsi Zero Sugar tastes way better. It just does.

[Mad Dog]

Pepsi Zero Sugar has a lot more flavor going on.

[Co-host]

And I'm leaving this right here super glued to its little cardboard thing, and I'm super glued to the show.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Mad Dog]

Congrats, Pepsi.

[Host]

Good job, Pepsi. Do the Pepsi challenge yourself. You should check it out. Let's get into nano dosing, because there's a lot to jump into. Where do we want to start? I've got, like, we could go the Epstein file stuff. We could go with the super bowl halftime show that everyone's talking about. We could talk about this kidnapping that I am just completely out of the loop for.

[Co-host]

Should we do the show Wednesday on, like, kidnappings? Yeah.

[Host]

Celebrity kidnap or, like, famous kidnappings.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

Like a JonBenet Ramsey.

[Co-host]

This one seems like something. Something weird is going on.

[Big T]

Yeah. I mean.

[Host]

Yes.

[Co-host]

And I don't know. I. I've just seen that now the. The cops are zeroing in on the. The sister's house. Right.

[Host]

I'm so far out of the loop on it.

[Co-host]

And they were.

[Mad Dog]

They were searching the sister's house, looking.

[Co-host]

In, like, her septic tank and stuff.

[Mad Dog]

Jesus Christ. Christ.

[Co-host]

And then. Yeah. So that I'm. I'm not fully caught up on that.

[Host]

But I know that usually it's somebody that's. That's very close to the family or in the family.

[Big T]

Just try not to judge people who are mourning, because everybody does it differently. But that, like, ransom letter video, ransom note video where they're like. Like, give her back. So we can celebrate with her or celebrate her or something like that. Something just seems. Oh, I don't know. The whole thing is very weird to me. Why would you kidnap an older woman? I don't know.

[Co-host]

And there was a line in there from Silence of the Lambs, like verbatim.

[Big T]

Was it really?

[Co-host]

Yeah. Did you see that? It was she, like, she's really kind and. And funny or something. Like, talk to her. You'll see. And that exact verbiage is used in Silence of the Lambs.

[Big T]

Put the lotion in the bag.

[Co-host]

Never seen that movie.

[Big T]

Oh, it's a good one.

[Co-host]

I'm familiar with. You know, I've just never, never sat down and watched it.

[Host]

It's a classic.

[Co-host]

It's what they tell me.

[Host]

All right, so, yeah, we could do high profile kidnappings.

[Co-host]

Okay.

[Host]

Sounds like a good idea. So what. What other topic do you want to jump into right off the bat?

[Co-host]

I mean, I feel like you got to do Super Bowl.

[Host]

First Super Bowl. Congratulations to America because the Philadelphia Eagles are no longer super bowl champions.

[Co-host]

Wow.

[Host]

The Seahawks are. The Patriots are not Seahawks. Dominant. Best team in the league this year all season long, start to finish, suffocating defense. Drake May looked like dog shit. The Patriots offense looked like dog shit. Patriots defense looked, okay, for the most part, pretty boring game. I don't want to say boring. I want to retract that to the uninitiated football. To the casual football fan, it might have been boring. It was great defense played by both teams. So I. I did like that. And the Seahawks defense was next level. A lot of questions now about Drake May, his health. If he's ever as good as we thought that he was, I'll say this huge vindication for the Matt Stafford MVP voters. Massive vindication for them.

[Co-host]

I don't know if you noticed, but in the fourth quarter, they were going to a commercial. And right before Josh Dobbs put his helmet on and I texted everybody I know, I said, he's going in. They're putting him in. And I had a. A Josh Dobbs, Super Bowl MVP ticket, 150 to 1.

[Host]

Me too.

[Co-host]

Did you really?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

And I was like, can you imagine if he comes? I mean, it would be a shoe in if they won that game. And they didn't even put him in. They put Drake. And I think that was the possession where Drake May threw the horrific interception.

[Host]

Bad pick. Yeah, yeah, really bad pick.

[Co-host]

And then I was like, well, now maybe they'll really put him in. They still didn't.

[Host]

I thought in the second quarter, there's A chance that we get. We get Josh Dobbs. That's how bad it was. Drake May looked like he was off on all of his throws in the first half. He looked like he was banged up.

[Big T]

But very odd to me that he. There was a lot of looks where Seattle was bringing pressure and he did not find his hot receiver. Like, it was very odd to me. That was like, very prevalent. There was like two or three times I can remember, and I'm like, you got. You're hot there. I don't. I don't understand. It was weird.

[Host]

Now, you're hearing a lot of takes about Drake May today, but if you are a Drake May fan, I got some silver linings for you. Actually, it's just one thing. Drake May set a record on Sunday.

[Co-host]

Most passing yards in a quarter in.

[Host]

A Super bowl in super bowl history. That fourth quarter stuff.

[Co-host]

Legends are made out, which really sucked because I had Sam Darnold passing yards, money line against Drake May, and that.

[Host]

Looked great for a long time.

[Co-host]

And he had six completions for the whole game. And then the fourth quarter, obviously they're just slinging it because they're down by so much.

[Host]

He had what, like 60 yards going into the fourth?

[Co-host]

Yeah. Because he finished with like 290, 295, 230 in that quarter or something.

[Host]

Yeah, it was the. The most passing yards in a quarter in super bowl history, surpassing Doug Williams. I believe that was the second quarter against the Broncos back in 1987.

[Co-host]

That was to Drake.

[Host]

Mac, great second quarter that. That Doug Williams had just absolutely buried him. Congrats to Drake May. There will be a lot of people that say that Drake May was never as good as that he was. I'm not going to say that other people will say that. I'll just say that the right person won MVP and he looked very limited given either his health or just the caliber defense that he was playing against. But yeah, the. The Seahawks, good timing for them to win a Super bowl as well. The team's going up for sale right now.

[Big T]

Oh, wow. I didn't know that.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Also, it's just good for football in general because for all the. The hype and the hoopla surrounding the quarterback play and it's a passing league. You won a Super bowl old school style. How you always win in the. In the playoffs, playing good defense and running the football. Been saying it for years.

[Host]

Yeah. What'd you think about Kenneth Walker? I thought he had an excellent game yesterday.

[Big T]

Well, I mean, you drew about as a child, you know what I mean? Like you. Super bowl mvp. That's. I bet he's probably still high. Should be. Deserves to be. Yeah.

[Host]

And he's about to be a free agent, too.

[Big T]

Oh, reel it in, my brother.

[Host]

Yeah, reel it in. He's gonna make a ton of money. Good for him.

[Co-host]

Did you see that was the first game his dad ever went to in his life because he doesn't like crowds.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Never went to pick.

[Co-host]

Yeah. But I mean, your son's in the NFL.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

And you've never gone.

[Host]

I would be like, dad, you got to keep coming. Like the one game.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

You have to go to all of them now.

[Host]

I won Super Bowl MVP. I'm one for one on Super Bowl MVPs. When you're in attendance. Yeah.

[Big T]

I would kind of leave it. I'd probably leave it there.

[Host]

This fade off in the sunset one and done. Yeah. He picked a great one to go to.

[Big T]

Yeah. This is. My luck is impeccable.

[Host]

I can't. I kind of stand with. With Mr. Walker. Crowds aren't great.

[Co-host]

I agree there.

[Host]

Yeah. Although you got to go to a football game at some point.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

Son. Your son's playing it.

[Co-host]

He was at Michigan State when they were top three. Four in the country. That. That was it. 21. It looked like they were going to go to the playoffs most of the year.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

And then they lost to somebody. But they were like. They. He. He was at Michigan State when they were great. He's been in the NFL for years.

[Host]

Yeah. Kind of crazy that he hasn't been to a game until now. Till the Super Bowl.

[Co-host]

High school. Did he not go in high school? Was this just NFL? I don't know. I just saw that. It was the first one ever. That's what it said.

[Host]

It might have been just NFL.

[Co-host]

Surely he was going high school games.

[Host]

Good for him, though.

[Co-host]

NFL.

[Host]

First NFL game. So he did go.

[Co-host]

Okay.

[Host]

To college games. Okay.

[Co-host]

That's more acceptable.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Host]

What'd you think of the halftime show, Aaron?

[Big T]

I thought that was fire. I. I didn't have a. Understand a word he was saying. But as I. I love storytelling. I love, like, intricate and unique set designs. I thought that was really dope. My daughter and my son speak Spanish, and they was back there. They knew all the words. They was. They was jumping around. It was dope. I thought it was dope. Lady Gaga, because that was a Bruno Mars song, if I'm not mistaken. Right.

[Host]

I don't know. Was it.

[Mad Dog]

She's featured on it. It's her and Bruno Mars.

[Big T]

Okay. Got you. Got you. Yeah. I Thought that was a dope appearance. The little nod to. I don't know if he was giving the Grammy to himself as a kid or just a kid that was meant to be inspired by him. That was fire to me. When he gave a little Grammy to the little kid, yeah, that was dope. But overall, I thought that was dope ass. Dope ass performance.

[Host]

There was a wedding, an actual wedding that took place.

[Big T]

Yeah, it was an actual wedding. I, when it happened, I was like, that looked real to me. They looked really happy.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I was like, they're really good actors. Or that was real. And afterwards, my daughter confirmed that it was a real wedding. That was fire. Very unique. And also, I love the, the fact that, that it's not too much on a national stage that you see the Latin influence of America being celebrated like that. I thought that was really dope. And I know I got a bunch of Latin partners that, you know, love that shit. I love that shit. It was dope to me.

[Co-host]

Big T, would you think I don't have any. I thought it was fine. I was not, I don't know what he said. It sounded fine. I wasn't like, I wasn't moved by it. I wasn't offended by it. And I think there are people on both sides just lying their asses off. There are people being like, pretending that this was ridiculously offensive, whatever. It was totally fine. And then there's people like, this is the greatest halftime show there's ever been. I've never enjoyed something like this. It was unbelievable. It's like you what, which, what was your favorite song? You know, So I, I, I think I was, I have no thoughts on it. Genuinely. No thoughts.

[Host]

Yeah. Usually the halftime show, we get the takes afterwards and then we get the conversation after. It feel. It felt like the takes were pre written for this one.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

The people that were gonna hate it already hated it before it even happened. And then you had a bunch of people that were like, well, these people are being racist for hating it because it's Bad Bunny. So I'm gonna love it even if I don't care for the music.

[Co-host]

Right.

[Host]

There's some of that from a, from a show aspect, from like a creative standpoint, it was super intricate. It was really well done. I don't know any of his music. I'm not a big Bad Bunny fan. I just thought, oh.

[Big T]

And I found out afterwards a lot of the, the outskirts of the, the boundary trees, those were people.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I was gonna ask about that. Why there was. It served no purpose.

[Host]

I Guess to make it more lively or faster to get on and off.

[Co-host]

You think?

[Big T]

Yeah, I thought it was. That it was a dope effect.

[Host]

He basically created. He built a city like a small or a small town on the field.

[Co-host]

Yeah. Ronald Acuna was there.

[Host]

Oh, was he really?

[Co-host]

Yeah, he was in that little hut thing.

[Host]

Jessica album, Ricky Martin appears.

[Big T]

That was kind of dope.

[Host]

Okay. So that, to me, like, I always just knew Ricky Martin as being la vida loca guy, Kid from Menudo back in the day. I didn't know he could sing like that. Like, I knew he was a singer. I knew that. That that's what his profession is. I didn't know he had pipes like that, though.

[Big T]

Yeah, no, he killed that. I mean, I'm not the biggest Ricky Martin fan, but of course I recognize them all tower. Like, that's crazy. I wasn't expecting that. That was dope.

[Host]

It seemed to have a very positive message, too.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Host]

So, yeah, it was dope.

[Big T]

It was very inclusive.

[Host]

Yeah, dope. Some. Some people are upset. They think that the NFL has declared war on American society. And so they're going to. They're going to battle through this online, one step at a time, slowly having the brain leak out of their ear until there's absolutely nothing that they can do or watch without just, like, hating it. So I kind of feel bad for. For those people. I did not watch the Kid Rock all American alternative halftime show. We watched in the gambling cave. We had the miny halftime experience on seven TVs.

[Co-host]

Y' all couldn't get it on?

[Host]

No, because, I mean, what are we going to do? Put on Kid Rock with no sound?

[Co-host]

Maybe.

[Host]

I guess we probably could have done.

[Co-host]

I watched about 30 seconds of it. I tuned over to see how many people were watching, and it was a good amount of people. And then he was. Kid Rock was covering till you can't, which is one of my favorite songs by Cody Johnson. And I don't think he did it particularly well, but I love that song.

[Host]

So I. I was watching the Mincy halftime show. We got to do some counter programming next year.

[Co-host]

I didn't know it was still on this year. Y' all need to do a better job promoting.

[Host]

It's too woke up. Like, I can't stand the Mincy halftime show now. It's like it's trying to indoc. We need to do all American alternative counter programming to mince his halftime show.

[Co-host]

Who would be on that?

[Host]

I mean, Big T. Are you offering maybe jnn.

[Co-host]

JN that?

[Host]

JNN counterproduction.

[Co-host]

We should have thought of this at least 48 hours ago.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Host]

Because in Mensey's, it was, like, all hippie stuff.

[Co-host]

Yeah. A lot of psychedelic imagery.

[Host]

Grateful Dead.

[Co-host]

Yeah. No, you're right.

[Host]

It seemed quite liberal.

[Co-host]

And wasn't one of the songs about San Francisco.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

How much you love San Francisco?

[Host]

It was the name of. Yeah. If you're going to San Francisco, be sure to wear flowers in your hair. Yeah.

[Co-host]

Okay. So. Yeah, maybe next year. Jnn.

[Host]

Jnn. Counter program.

[Co-host]

I'm in if Jerry is okay.

[Host]

Yeah, let's get the ball rolling on that. I think that would be good for America.

[Co-host]

I think so, too.

[Host]

And all the kids at home.

[Big T]

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[Host]

Yeah, but people are big mad about it. Whitlock had some takes this morning, buddy.

[Co-host]

Oh, I didn't see.

[Host]

Whitlock had some takes.

[Big T]

He.

[Host]

He. He compared the Bad Bunny halftime show to the. The film Birth of a Nation.

[Big T]

Get the fuck out of here. In what way?

[Host]

I. I think he was saying that if you're a white person and you enjoyed the Bad Bunny halftime show, you're racist. Because in his mind, the Bad Bunny halftime show was a derogatory caricature of Latin culture.

[Co-host]

I have the tweet. Would you like to hear that?

[Host]

Yeah, please.

[Co-host]

Again, these are not. These are not my words. These are Jason Whitlock's, and I quote, read this. Bile from Jason Whitlock. Quote, I've rewatched the Bad Bunny halftime twice this morning. It's Birth of a Nation for Latino people. Latinos running around, gyrating, dancing, drinking, having sex. And the time of their lives on an agriculture plantation. What a celebration.

[Host]

All right, quote, first of all, I miss. I missed the sex.

[Co-host]

There was. You missed it.

[Host]

There were people having sex.

[Co-host]

Having intercourse. No.

[Host]

Okay, that's what. Because that's what Whitlock said.

[Co-host]

Okay, but there was. There was sex.

[Host]

You're talking about the gyration.

[Co-host]

It's a lot of some. Some very close proximity gyration.

[Host]

What is this, 1950? We're at the soccer.

[Co-host]

Okay. But there was sex.

[Host]

Her poodle skirt was showing too much gam.

[Co-host]

There was sex.

[Mad Dog]

There.

[Host]

There were people that were. Okay, you're gonna make me defend Bad Bunny, and I'm not a. I'm not a Bad Bunny fan.

[Big T]

He made me into a fan.

[Host]

At super bowl halftime shows, people dance with each other.

[Co-host]

Yes.

[Host]

And when you dance, I'm not saying.

[Co-host]

It'S to be unexpected.

[Host]

There was gyrating. I'll give him that.

[Co-host]

Okay.

[Host]

Whitlock is spot on with the gyrating and. But the. I think I know the one part that he's talking about where there was specifically a lot of gyration that was like a three second clip of the entire halftime.

[Big T]

Like, I need a rapper to make a song and incorporate gyrating. Like, gyrate over here or something. You know what I'm saying? Like, get gyrate for me or something. Something. That would be amazing.

[Host]

That'd be a good name for a rapper too. Jai Rate. Like J A I and then last name rate. Okay.

[Big T]

All right.

[Host]

We're just spitballing. We're just spitballing here.

[Big T]

Yeah, it's like, man, full ideas.

[Host]

There was dancing. There was dancing at the halftime show. There was some gyrating. Yeah, for sure. There's a lot.

[Big T]

Does he ever talk about what he likes? I feel like his whole platform was just talking about what he don't like. Does he really like? No, I really liked.

[Co-host]

He did like the Turning Point USA halftime show.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Co-host]

Said it was awesome.

[Host]

I really enjoyed the idea of Whitlock waking up in the morning, day after the super bowl, and he immediately watches the Bad Bunny halftime show twice before he gets out of bed. Because he hates it so much to watch the tape. Yeah. I mean, his job is to have a take like that about it. So, I mean, he is just. He's clocking in when he wakes up and watching Bad Bunny. So I did not watch, unfortunately, the Kid Rock All American halftime show. I heard a couple things, but Big T, maybe you can just tell me what is real and what's not, because I've only absorbed it through Twitter.

[Co-host]

I watched 30 seconds, but I will do my best.

[Host]

Okay.

[Co-host]

I know the answers.

[Host]

I had some people that I saw say that the lip syncing was off on it.

[Co-host]

I have no idea. The 30 seconds I watched Kid Rock was definitely singing.

[Host]

Okay.

[Co-host]

Because it was not very good.

[Host]

Okay. And then the other thing that I saw this morning was that it had, what, 5 million concurrent views at any given time?

[Co-host]

It was between five and six on YouTube. Yeah. And then they had it on Rumble and stuff, but I think that was way lower.

[Host]

That's pretty good numbers.

[Co-host]

I think it was the third largest audience of the live event in YouTube history.

[Big T]

Wow.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

Pretty good numbers. And then I saw one other person saying that nobody was in the chat, so they were questioning the numbers.

[Co-host]

I saw a lot of. I saw chat flowing.

[Host]

Chat flowing.

[Co-host]

Okay. In the 30 seconds I watched.

[Host]

Okay. Oh, that's the super bowl halftime review. Also, if you really, really deeply care about the super bowl halftime show, that's. That's you problem. That's you problem.

[Co-host]

Wow. I actually. I just hit refresh on my Twitter for you page. I'm going to read you a tweet, see if you can tell me who tweeted it.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Co-host]

I liked the halftime show. I thought it was fun.

[Host]

I like the halftime show. I thought it was fun. And you said, wow, so it might not be a person.

[Co-host]

Riley Gaines, you're on the right track.

[Big T]

Oh, okay.

[Host]

Meg Kelly.

[Co-host]

I'd say go further right, Sir Palin. Way further. You just went left.

[Mad Dog]

Nick Fuentes.

[Co-host]

That's correct.

[Big T]

Well, he's. He's Latin. Yeah, He's a Latin white supremacist. Very weird.

[Host]

I also think that his. His job is just make everybody, like, freak out no matter what. So you have. Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

He just wants to be a contrarian.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

And so every once in a while, he'll throw one out there that's like, oh, I gotcha.

[Host]

Mm. Or he could be. This might be him just doing, like, three levels of irony, maybe.

[Co-host]

Who knows?

[Host]

If you're watching a stream or whatever, you're like, oh, yeah, I can see what he's doing right now. That's so people are gonna get so mad. Yeah. Overall, I give it a. I give it a. Yes. The super bowl halftime show existed again this year.

[Big T]

It definitely existed.

[Host]

It did. And the. The production was good. I'm not a big Bad Bunny music fan, but I thought it was a perfectly fine. It was actually a wholesome show. If you look at what they did, it was. Besides the gyrating, which was NC17, I thought it was pretty wholesome. People getting married, talking about love a lot. Little kid, little kids having a fun time, dancing.

[Mad Dog]

The only thing more powerful than hate is love was, like, the message.

[Host]

Is that true?

[Mad Dog]

That's what he said. Oh, are you just saying. Is the statement true?

[Host]

Yeah. Do you think that's true?

[Mad Dog]

I think love is more powerful than hate. I think we should all love more than we hate.

[Big T]

I feel like how are we definitely finding powerful and what context is powerful?

[Host]

Makes change happen, affects change in the world.

[Mad Dog]

I think love trumps hate. I think hate happens, and then love comes out on top. I'd like to think that.

[Big T]

I don't know.

[Host]

I think that maybe.

[Big T]

I'd like to think that. But if I'm just, like, looking at human history, hate wins out a lot. Yeah.

[Host]

But when hate loses, it loses to love. But that person disagrees with the hate so much that they end up hating the hate. So, like, hate kind of beats hate, but it's coming from a place of love.

[Big T]

Wouldn't that be a notch in the hate category, though?

[Host]

I don't know. It's like a copycat league.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Host]

Or I guess Christianity. Love conquers hate.

[Big T]

Love conquers.

[Mad Dog]

That was like Jesus's whole thing.

[Big T]

Yeah. Crusades, you know.

[Host]

No, I mean, like the Bible, like the New Testament.

[Big T]

Love conquers hate. Sure. I'm okay with it. Yeah.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

Embrace debate.

[Big T]

Let's do it.

[Host]

I think I got. I think I got hate in seven.

[Co-host]

Wow.

[Big T]

It would be a good match.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

No sweep.

[Host]

No. Oh, no, no.

[Big T]

Definitely, definitely not. Sweet. No, no.

[Host]

This one's going the distance.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah, absolutely. It's about who's got the deeper bench, and I think hate has a deeper bench.

[Co-host]

The role players, they hit on a lot of second round picks.

[Host]

Yeah. The role players for Hate are. I think they. They'll outlast the role players for Love. The superstars are like, that's going to be a great matchup.

[Big T]

Starting five. Who's running point on Hate?

[Co-host]

I mean, there's an obvious.

[Host]

Yeah, we got an obvious. Like a little guy.

[Co-host]

Yeah. Fits the position.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

All right. All right. Who's running point on love?

[Host]

Might be McConaughey. Somebody remake the. The Jordan verse versus Kobe oil painting. Except it's Hitler versus McConaughey.

[Big T]

I'm. I'm a send, y'.

[Host]

All.

[Big T]

This dude. It's this dude. He. He does impressions and. And he. He's. He does Matthew McConaughey, and he's explaining 6, 7, and it may be one of the best explanations of six, seven I've ever heard. Is amazing, though. Is amazing. Hey, do you got, like, three minutes? I can.

[Host]

I gotta run. Like, are they still doing the yak right now? Pull if they're still doing the act and I can go for a second.

[Big T]

I want to. I wanted. I wanted to get your take on.

[Mad Dog]

No, they're done.

[Host]

Okay. I got it. I got it.

[Big T]

Right.

[Co-host]

How long's this interview gonna take?

[Host]

45 I love you guys.

[Big T]

What? A Trump tweet? Love your. Just save it.

[Host]

We'll say, okay, my Trump tweet is. I was reading the whole damn thing, and I was like, this is awesome. Trump's tweeting about the NFL, and somehow Sam Schwarzeneg did not get implicated. And then at the very end.

[Big T]

Nope, nope, not that tweet. The video.

[Host]

Oh, the video. Okay, I'll do that real quick. All right, so I saw the video. I was actually still awake on west coast time. I saw it before I went to bed, and I was just like, jesus Christ, what the is going on? So I watched the video. It's pretty clear that he had the video that was playing the voter fraud thing. And then at the end, there was the autoplay of the racist cartoon or image of Michelle and Barack as. As apes, and then the video cut out. So I. Well, it's pretty clear that Trump didn't sit down and, like, make that video. He's still responsible for what he puts up online. And it shows you that that being the autoplay on that video also tells you what kind of algorithm he's working with. And if anybody else had that, any other president had that up, it would be, like, the biggest scandal. And.

[Big T]

Fair enough.

[Host]

And. And so while I don't think that he, like, made that video, I do think that you have to be responsible for what you put up if you're the President of the United States. And, yeah, it was bad. It was a. It was a pretty shitty, disgusting video. And then people's reactions. I saw a lot of people saying, like, lighten up. It's a joke. No, that's not. That's actually just, like, pure, pure racism. Like, there's nothing that you can do to try to, like, handwave that away. That's, like, the oldest trope in the book. And, yeah, it's like, It's. It's really bad. About as bad as a video like that can get. There was one other thing. I was thinking about it when I was watching the reactions to it. There is. There's also a chance that whoever. I don't know his workflow, like, when people, like, send him videos to put up, because is he. Is he really online, like, putting his thumb on the right side of the video and then doing, like, post video? I don't. I don't know how skilled he is at social media in terms of just, like, you know, the. The mechanics of it, but there is. There is a chance that whoever sent him that video knew that that was at the end of it. And they thought that would be funny to have that as, like, a half second autoplay afterwards. I think that it was, like a. Not a significant chance that it was like an inside joke. And they're like, oh, well, he can't get in trouble for that because it's not his video. It's just the next one that played. I don't know if he knew that when he put that up, or the person that made the video that sent it to him knew that, but there's a good chance. And that's a. That's a really shitty thing to do.

[Big T]

Fair enough. Yeah, I agree. He's a racist. I can't even. Can't even beat around anymore. Get the out of here. Yeah. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts, my brother.

[Host]

I don't know that we'll ever know exactly how that entire thing went down, because you can just, like, cover your ass as much as possible.

[Big T]

And he'd be.

[Host]

He can be like, yeah, somebody sent to me. I just put it up.

[Big T]

The fact that he like. The fact that you're not like, yeah, okay, you know, that looks bad. I don't. I don't know how I got. Whatever the case would be. The fact that you just. Yeah, it was just. It's a joke. Like, get the out of here, though.

[Host]

Yeah, it's not a joke. That's. I mean, you can think, like, what is the. Explain the joke.

[Big T]

Then they said. I heard. I heard a bunch of shit. They were saying that they. That Trump was the king of the jungle. And he. They had a whole bunch of other parts of the video where there was, like, Democrats as, like, different animals acting aoc, of course, Biden, all these. There were different animals, and Trump walked as the lion of the king of the jungle. But, like, fuck out of here. Like, it's. It's his dog. Whistling is so, like, brash now that it's not even like this. I was. I was having a conversation with somebody like, yo, he has done shit perpetually like this since the 70s. He got sued by the. By the government for not renting to black tenants Central Park 5. Shit. Like, all of this. All of this shit. Like, he's. Yeah, it is what it is.

[Host]

All right.

[Big T]

It don't surprise me, though.

[Host]

We'll talk later. I love you guys. I gotta run.

[Big T]

All right, My G. Goodbye.

[Host]

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[Big T]

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[Host]

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[Big T]

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[Co-host]

Okay, Aryan, so PFT left, but sticking with football outside of the Super Bowl. Did you see what happened with James Pierce?

[Big T]

I didn't. I don't know who James Pierce is.

[Co-host]

Okay, well, a quick explainer for you. So James Pierce played at ut. He was a rookie for the Falcons this year. He had ten and a half sacks. He's awesome. He would have been a top five pick in the NFL draft last year if not for some reported character concerns. The Falcons decided that with the. They took Jaylen Walker with their first pick, and then they traded back into the first round, took James Pierce. Uh, they gave up this year's first round pick to do it. And everybody's like, that's insane. Then he has ten and a half sacks. Everybody says, wow, that was actually a great decision by them. Uh, James Pierce on Saturday was arrested on, I believe, five felony counts. Aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, aggravated stalking, fleeing and eluding police. According to the police report, he rammed his car several times into his girlfriend's car, I believe, reportedly to prevent her from going to the police station. Allegedly. Uh, and then so the cops start going after him. He hits a cop with his car, and then he was being arrested and fought off all the cops. It took seven police officers to arrest him, which is. You see how he got ten and a half sex. It's not cool or funny or anything, but, I mean, if there's a video of the cops arresting him, that was a funny joke. It's. You see the video and you're like, man, I mean, that guy's fucking strong. Like, but so, I mean, it sounds like he's going to prison. Prison.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I've just never understood this dog. Like, I think it's like a mental, clearly, but, like, abusive men, I don't understand that in general, but abusive dudes that don't have, like, the rationality to be like, I want to control this woman so much that I'm gonna throw my life away. I don't understand that, bro. Like, love to me is not that strong. I don't know, maybe I never been in love like that before, but it's like. Like to throw away your entire life and then more importantly, to put that woman through that trauma that she's gonna have years of therapy to get over. You know what I mean? Like, trust issues, dealing with abuse. It's. It's it's traumatic to put somebody and their family through that all because like whatever, insecurity or whatever, I just never understood that. That shit is beyond me. Just move along, dog. So many other women out here. If this ain't the one for you, can't make nobody love you.

[Co-host]

Fuck out of here. Here's a quote from a high school teammate of his. Quote. These are not made up character concerns. By the way, I went to high school with this person. He is actually crazy. He had the worst anger issues ever. It just. And as the owner of a James Pierce jersey, tough. And by the way, I found out about this sitting in Rupp arena in Lexington, Kentucky as Tennessee blew a 14 point second half lead. Just the worst night of my life.

[Big T]

Okay, what you gonna do with the jersey? You gonna keep it?

[Co-host]

Well, I mean, we gotta see if he, you know, is still on the team.

[Big T]

That's crazy.

[Co-host]

No, I mean, obviously he's, he's a, a nut job, like, bad guy. I don't know. I guess, I don't. Is he gonna. The bond was 20 grand, which felt pretty low for like what he was accused of. Um, it sounds like he's going to jail if he doesn't.

[Big T]

Like.

[Co-host]

What do you do if you're the Falcons? You spent two first round picks on this guy.

[Big T]

You know, can't. Can't use.

[Co-host]

Are you sure?

[Big T]

I'm sure they're gonna.

[Co-host]

I'm not saying that's what they should do. I'm just saying NFL teams recently have been like, you know, if they're able to play, we're gonna play them.

[Big T]

I think, I think, I think they can. And this is, I think the NFL could probably deal with domestic abuse, like. Right. But when you, when there's video. No, they won't put up with it because that incites the public. But when there's domestic issues and there's no video, it makes it easier to hide. But when you're talking about running over a cop, I don't think the public's gonna go for that. Like, I don't, I don't think, I don't think you can, you can reconcile those, those things. I'm not, I'm not, and I'm not putting any merit on the value of each act. I think the domestic abuse is, is a wild situation. Running over a cop is a wild situation. Wait, did he run over a cover?

[Co-host]

I, he, I, he hit a police officer. I think, like just the guy. Not. I, I don't know if he ran into the car also, but I believe he hit a copy.

[Big T]

Yeah, I. I just don't think that PR is hard to manage. Like, domestic disputes, they. They happen. They're ugly. I don't condone them, but I've seen the NFL be lenient towards domestic abuse before. I don't. I don't know that the NFL, from an optic standpoint, how they like to view themselves would. And this is not my take, by the way. This is what I just. Putting myself in NFL shoes from their past behavior, I wouldn't think that they would allow that kind of PR to circulate. Doesn't make sense to me.

[Co-host]

Atlanta Falcons rookie James Pierce allegedly crashed his vehicle into one being driven by WNBA player Rekia Jackson multiple times and struck a police officer with the vehicle while evading arrest, according to the criminal complaint obtained by ESPN from the Miami Dade County State Attorney's Office. Pierce was arrested Saturday in Florida on five felony charges, including aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, aggravated stalking, and aggravated battery of a law enforcement officer.

[Big T]

Damn. Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host]

Not good.

[Big T]

I don't know, man. That's. Even if she cheats on you, man, I understand. I've been there. It's not worth throwing your life away, dog. It's definitely not worth the. The trauma you bestow on her or her family for doing that. You gotta learn to deal with your emotions, man.

[Co-host]

I mean, he was gonna make so much money.

[Big T]

Yeah. It's just. It's never worth it. Never worth it. Yeah. I wish everybody well in a situation. Hope he gets the help we need. Hope she gets the help she gonna need.

[Co-host]

Do you think just.

[Big T]

Just from concerned about the Falcons and the helping?

[Co-host]

No, no. I mean, listen, just in my life, like, let's go down the list. So. So in my life, the Falcons hire Bobby Petrino. He's a cataclysmic disaster. Leaves notes in the player's locker and just leaves town. Michael Vick, cover athlete on Madden. Coolest guy in the NFL, goes to prison for a dog fighting ring. 20. Then they somehow come out of that draft, a Hall of Fame quarterback, go to an NFC championship game, blow a 17 nothing lead and lose. A few years later, they go to a Super bowl, blow a 28 to 3 lead and lose. They had guys get in trouble for piping in fake crowd noise into the Georgia Dome. They what? What else has happened? Then they go through the whole Marcus Mariota, Desmond Ritter era. Like, it's just. It's just one thing after another that could never happen to another team. And now they. Then they don't have a pass rush for A decade. They finally draft an awesome one and he makes it one day before the conclusion of his rookie season and gets arrested on five felonies. So.

[Big T]

You know, whatever curse man they got.

[Co-host]

Yeah. For all people talk about, like the jets and the Browns and whatever, the Atlanta Falcons are the worst run organization in the NFL. Not in professional sports because, like the Rockies exist, but pretty close.

[Big T]

How's.

[Host]

What's it.

[Big T]

Who's they? Who's the owner?

[Co-host]

What's his name? Arthur Blank, founder of Home Depot.

[Big T]

Founder of Home Depot. Yeah, man. Maybe it's time for him to. Is he like super active? Those be the franchises that be perpetually stuck is when the owners be doing too much.

[Co-host]

The Falcons have always had a GM and like a personnel department, but I think Arthur Blank is not completely uninvolved.

[Big T]

Gotcha.

[Co-host]

I think he has. And if nothing else, I think he has people in positions of power making decisions that they know he would approve of.

[Big T]

It's clearly not working. So I offer up my services to you, Arthur Blank. Blank Blanc.

[Co-host]

Oh, here was the other thing I was trying to remember when they asked, I think it was Eli Apple during the combine if he liked men. They did that. And then they had the last year or. Yeah, last year when the defensive coordinator's son called Shadur Sanders and said he was drafted. It's just. It's every year there's some stupid thing that could never happen to anybody else.

[Big T]

Do you like the Browns asked me what they asked me. Would you rather be a dog or a cat?

[Co-host]

What'd you say?

[Big T]

Said I'd rather be a human.

[Host]

They probably didn't like.

[Co-host]

Did they like that?

[Big T]

Probably not.

[Co-host]

What. What's this? What's the purpose of a question like that, man?

[Big T]

It has so much dumbass. Like, it's a pony show dog. So, like, it's like these psychological tests and even the qu. Like the. What is it? What is the little test?

[Co-host]

The Wonderlic.

[Big T]

The Wonderlic that has some stupid ass on it. Some of it was just like iq, regular IQ test, stuff like pattern recognition. Like that. Someone's just dumbass. It's just. I don't know, man. That whole process is very weird. Very weird. I remember standing. Standing in line to get an MRI because we all had to get our full body scan. Mri. So we're all standing in spandex shorts waiting for our turn, and the guy calls me, says, RB8. And I said, my name's Aryan, man. He said, I understand that, but you're up. I said, yeah. It's like, it's like, feel like cattle. You know what I'm saying? Weird. Like, you get on stage, they looking at you, they poking you with little instruments, measuring your hands, your arms. It was very weird, dog. I understand the point of it, but being the object of it was a very weird experience, though. I was fresh out of college, so I was like. My philosophy degree was on, you know, very fresh in my memory. So, like, the. All the psych, psychological baggage that comes with that was just. It was. It was a lot at the moment. Didn't leave a good taste in my mouth.

[Co-host]

Were there any other questions from teams, like dog or cat or. No.

[Big T]

I remember Sean Payton didn't believe me that I was faster than I was saying. Yeah, we were. So I was interviewing with the Saints, and he was like, what do you run at a 40? And I said. I said, I can get to four four. And he was like, I don't see a four, four. I was like, my body's changed since then. I'm training differently. Yada, yada, yada. He's like, I just don't think. I just don't see it. I was like, sorry, man, you already do it.

[Co-host]

Did you ever run another 40 in your life after the combine or pro day or whatever?

[Big T]

I went for thousands of yards. Big two.

[Co-host]

I. I understand. Did you? But did you? Because it seems. Because I guess you never would have really done it again, right?

[Big T]

No, not. Not on the clock like that. But, like, so we'll. So how I know I was faster than what the. The. The clock measured was. Because after. After all that shit said you do off season training, right? And I off season, trained with cats who ran four. Four cats who ran four. Three. And I was right with him. I've walked off on dudes who ran a 4. 4 before, so I was. It's just 40s is kind of overrated anyway, I think. I think it's an okay test to see where a guy speed at. But like, you look at a cat like Jerry Rice, very slow, but probably the greatest route runner the game has seen. And it negligible. The speed don't matter when you. When you. When you're that high, highly skilled.

[Co-host]

Yeah. Juwan Jennings, everybody freaked out that he. His 40 was so slow, and I was like, watch him play football. He's unbelievable.

[Big T]

Exactly.

[Co-host]

And he's awesome.

[Big T]

Football players. And there are ponies. Yeah. But there was this one dude. I ain't gonna call his name out, but there's this one dude that came into camp, and I mean, he was the most amazing specimen I had seen coming from college to the NFL, he was a linebacker at this 250. Didn't have an ounce of fat on him in practice. Man was mauling people fast. Quick them lights came on. He shrunk. It was very weird. We were all like, yo. Because, like, he was. He came in undrafted, and we was like, how is this dude undrafted? And then he. In training camp, he was killing. He was just absolutely killing cats. And it was. I was. We were like, oh, he's for sure going to make the roster. Then the preseason games came, and he just shrunk. He just. He looked like he didn't know he was doing out there. It was.

[Co-host]

Was this your draft class?

[Big T]

No, it was in my draft class.

[Co-host]

Oh, okay. Later. I guess it would have to be because you were in the NFL.

[Big T]

Yeah. I'll tell you who was after. So you ain't gonna do that digging.

[Co-host]

I just. I just wanted to have. I'm trying to think. What. What year was it?

[Big T]

No.

[Co-host]

Well, I'm just trying to think of college linebackers, but I guess if it wasn't your draft class, I would have to. Really? Yeah. I'm curious.

[Big T]

The drop by gnc.

[Co-host]

It's where you'll find all the newest creatine innovations, like new GNC amp. Creative formula designed to help athletes. Athletes not just build muscle, but also repair and protect it in ways creatine alone. Can't get it now at gnc. Okay. Did you see the new Epstein news?

[Big T]

I have not.

[Co-host]

Man.

[Big T]

Lay it on me. Lay it on me, big dog.

[Co-host]

So there is a. An announcement from the U.S. attorney's Office of Jeffrey Epstein's death, which you would, you know, not that impressive. Obviously, that would have happened. It's dated Friday, August 9, 2019. Do you have a guess what's significant about that date?

[Big T]

That's my daughter's birthday.

[Co-host]

Oh, congrats. Close to your birthday, too.

[Big T]

A couple of weeks. Yeah.

[Co-host]

But Epstein supposedly died on Saturday, August 10th of 2019. And this is 100% real. You can click the link. It's in the DOJ files. Um, it's the statement of Manhattan US Attorney's office on the death of defendant Jeffrey Epstein. Says all the. You know, all the stuff about it, and if it just even said August 9, 2019, you could be like, okay, somebody got the date wrong. I guess like they thought, whatever. Which would be grossly negligent and really weird. But I guess could happen the fact that it says Friday, August 9th, like they. It's. It's the entire thing. And it's the day before he died. Supposedly. There is also a document that details how they supposedly snuck Epstein's body out of the jail while using a decoy of another van that the, the media thought he was in. And they snuck him out. Obviously they're claiming he was dead at the time, but clearly there was. I don't know, man. You could tell me anything. You could tell me they killed him. You could tell me he's alive.

[Big T]

Guards claim to have found Epstein unresponsive in his jail cell at 6:30am this is according to the Metropolitan Correctional center in New York City, hanging off the side of his cell bed where he was awaiting trial. Prison guards reportedly performed cpr. He was transported to cardiac arrest to the New York Downtown Hospital where he was pronounced dead at 6:39. Suicide by hanging. Epstein's lawyers challenged the medical examiner's conclusion and opened their own investigation. Investigation, Okay. William Barr described Epstein's death as a perfect storm of screw ups. The FBI and the DOJ conducted investigations. The guard on duty. The guards on duty were later charged with multiple counts of record falsification.

[Co-host]

I did not know that.

[Big T]

I. I didn't know. Let me click this, this link right here. Let's see. I didn't know because I didn't know that either. Jeffrey Epstein's prison guards are indicted on federal charges. Two correctional officers were assigned to guard Jeffrey Epstein on the night he died in a cell. They've been indicted for allegedly ignoring more than 75 mandatory checks on the wealthy financier, then fabricating records to cover it up. Federal authorities charged Michael Thomas and Tova Noel with multiple counts of falsified records and conspiracy. The two worked as guards at the Metropolitan Correctional Facility, a federal facility in Manhattan. They have a hundred thousand dollar bond on them. I did not know that. Let me see if there's any like updated news with these cats. That's.

[Co-host]

And then there's the video of someone like going up to his cell the night that he supposedly died. Somebody got off.

[Big T]

I'm, I'm, I'm convinced. I think he got off.

[Co-host]

So you think they killed him? I think they being whatever shadow.

[Big T]

The higher, the higher ups who are in these files often that's what I.

[Co-host]

Think because the prevailing, and I don't know if I should say prevailing, the theory I'm seeing from a lot of people now is he's alive and he used the leverage he had on all those people to get him out and let him go live out his days somewhere.

[Big T]

That's, that's juicy.

[Co-host]

I think either of those is more likely than him killing himself.

[Big T]

Yeah, there's just too much inconsistency. So we found him in a cell, 6:30. We have a press release that says he's dead. The day before we find him dead in his cell. Come on, dog.

[Co-host]

And there's somebody that goes up to his cell that night. The video cuts out. It's a, it's a cartoonishly. It's very sloppy done operation.

[Big T]

Very fucking sloppy, dog. It's like if I'm sitting there concocting a master plan, I'm sitting around a table and I'm like, yo, we have to tighten up these details, fellas. This is not good. That shit is bad, though.

[Co-host]

And who.

[Big T]

So who drafted up. Do we know who drafted up this, this press release?

[Co-host]

I don't know who physically wrote it, but it's from the U.S. attorney's office for the Southern District of New York, which was U.S. attorney Jeffrey Berman, who I also read, I think it was Bill Barr, like a year later, said that this guy was retiring and he was like, no, I'm not. And then he was kind of forced out, I believe. So it's just a whole slew of.

[Big T]

Of come on sense. A whole bunch of come on, dog.

[Co-host]

Yeah. And, and it's just. And now that it's out there, it's kind of like, you know, do something about it. I don't know what to do.

[Big T]

Yeah, I mean, like I said, man, I might have FOMO of when they, when they bust this wide open 100 years from now, because this is clearly. They dropped the ball in the COVID up.

[Co-host]

You think, you think this will ever come out? I don't think so.

[Big T]

I do.

[Co-host]

We still don't know. Like, the only reason MK Ultra, like, the only reason we even know about MK Ultra is because when they destroyed all the files, a few of them managed to make it through, and we found those later. There's no telling the things we still don't know about.

[Mad Dog]

What do you guys think the Clintons are going to say?

[Co-host]

Yeah, because that's their testifying, right?

[Big T]

Yeah. That's interesting because they like, hey, we got nothing to hide, Bill.

[Co-host]

Sure thing.

[Big T]

Wild. And so, I don't know. I'm very curious. Ain't Ghislaine supposed to be testifying soon?

[Co-host]

She did this morning, but she didn't say anything.

[Mad Dog]

It was all just. She pled the fifth on everything. There was nothing revealed.

[Big T]

Yeah. Oh my gosh.

[Co-host]

She said she'll talk if Trump lets her out of jail.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah. She said she'd Only reveal things for.

[Co-host]

Clemency, which, I mean, what do you, you know, what do you expect her to say?

[Big T]

I'll talk if Trump lets me out of jail. So, like, if she, she gets pardoned, she'll talk.

[Co-host]

That's what she claims.

[Big T]

What a piece of.

[Mad Dog]

Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, clearly.

[Big T]

Yeah, but like, I'm just sort of shitty move. Like, if your life is over anyway, like, get some. Get some justice for these women who have been horrified like, you absolute piece of dog.

[Mad Dog]

Even beyond that of. Of the pure evil that you have to be to do all of it and to, you know, have these women and children and whoever it is, lives completely ruined or in some cases from what we see in the files, killed. If I'm looking at this, if I'm Ghislaine Maxwell, wouldn't you want as many people to go down with you? Or.

[Co-host]

I think she's holding out hope that she can be pardoned. So maybe if. If and when that doesn't happen, by the time Trump leaves office, then she spills. Maybe.

[Mad Dog]

But in my head, I would think if I'm her and like Jeffrey Epstein really doesn't ever have to answer for his crimes, and then you have all these co conspirators that are still free. I would be like, even if it wasn't clemency that was granted, you at least get to have other people, like, have a miserable life too. Is that terrible of me to actually. No, fuck them. They should all be in jail. Fuck you. But I would think being her, I would be like, and Hillary did this and Trump did this and Elon Musk did this, because why not take the whole operation down with you?

[Co-host]

I guess just holding out hope.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah, I guess I find that. I find that very odd that you're being quiet. I don't know who you're protecting at this point.

[Big T]

Point, like, yeah, your man's is dead.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah, yeah, your situationship is. Yeah, dead. Dead too. Like, he will never have to answer for. Even if that man is alive, he will never have to answer for any of this, which is honestly 10 times worse.

[Co-host]

Does anyone here believe he killed himself?

[Big T]

No, I don't think so.

[Mad Dog]

I don't think so.

[Co-host]

I think it seems pretty unlikely at this point.

[Big T]

Yeah, I think they often.

[Mad Dog]

I was gonna say, I don't. I don't think he's alive still, but I don't think he was maybe the one who thought of the plan to kill him. I think he's such a bad person. I think he probably thought like, oh, if I can make it through this. Like I'll be fine. Like they have nothing on me sort of thing. Right. I feel like the type of ego and evilness in your heart does not allow for suicide because you are so. You think of yourself as so above human consciousness.

[Co-host]

He had gotten away with it for so many years even after being convicted.

[Mad Dog]

Right.

[Co-host]

He was convicted in like 2006.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah. And got like six months or 13 months.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I don't even think it was that much. It may have been six months, but yeah. I.

[Mad Dog]

Why would you ever think at that.

[Co-host]

Point that you would just, just imagine the things we don't know about every time. This has actually really. And I'm naturally distrustful of the government, but this.

[Big T]

Were you radicalized?

[Co-host]

But, but this has opened, open me to like, you know when people say conspiracy theories and stuff like, buddy, there's no telling the things we don't know.

[Big T]

That's true because the shit that we do know is crazy. We know that the US has cooled other governments. We know that we have, you know, stifled economies. Took out people like shit's wild, man.

[Co-host]

Just what I, I said MK Ultra earlier. Just what we know from that. They hired hookers to like pull in guys off the street and dose them with LSD and just see what happened. Like the, the government did that and they watched them through like one way mirrors.

[Big T]

Yeah. Yeah, man. Good old US of A. It's a wild place.

[Co-host]

It is.

[Mad Dog]

I'm, I'm holding out hope that the Clintons kind of break it all open.

[Co-host]

I wouldn't count on it.

[Mad Dog]

Okay, well, I'm with her.

[Host]

But not.

[Mad Dog]

In the files, not in the crimes she committed way, but in the way. I want her to reveal the crimes, but I don't respect the crime.

[Big T]

I don't, I don't, I don't know that they, they, they go and say what are they scheduled to testify?

[Co-host]

Yeah, like the end of this month, I think.

[Big T]

Come on, make it, make it through. Bill, he was looking real sickly last time I seen him.

[Co-host]

Yeah, he's gotten skinny.

[Big T]

He's looking like a little Skeletor, man. I hope he makes it through the end of the month.

[Co-host]

That'd be something.

[Mad Dog]

Can I also ask something? And I don't. None of us have the actual answer for it, but your theories on. I've seen some people theorize, like, are they going to take out the Clintons somehow or like something like that? Is Bill Clinton going to like quote unquote, drop dead or something before the testimonies. How you, if you're the government. And presumably we're operating on the fact that the government has taken out people like this in order to not reveal certain things. You can't take out, like, the number one. Right. Because that's too.

[Co-host]

What, a president.

[Mad Dog]

No, no, no. I don't mean it like that. Like, the number one, like, important person in whatever you're trying to do. So for this, I don't even know how to explain it. Like, Bill and Hillary.

[Big T]

If.

[Mad Dog]

If something happened to Bill and Hillary in a. In a 1% suspicious manner, I would feel like it's so easy to tie it back to, like, the government or something tried to take them out. Like, how does the government decide, like, who's maybe the most three or four important people? Like, because I feel like you have to distract a little bit of, like.

[Co-host]

Are you saying because Epstein died?

[Mad Dog]

No, I'm not even saying it in maybe this exact scenario, but just in general, like, when governments take out people, I feel like you can't take out, like, the most obvious person because it looks too obvious.

[Co-host]

I think short of US Presidents, we have the capability to do pretty much whatever we want and get away with it.

[Mad Dog]

But do you know what I mean? It's like, I feel like if you take out most obvious person, then it looks too obvious from, like.

[Co-host]

Yeah, but clearly nobody cares or. And if they do, there's nothing you.

[Host]

Can do about it.

[Co-host]

But, I mean, we've killed people. You'll never know about that. Like, probably were. We have ways, I'm sure.

[Mad Dog]

John Kirikow.

[Co-host]

I want to get him on the show so bad. I love that guy.

[Mad Dog]

I reached out.

[Co-host]

John Kiriakou. He was a spy in the CIA who was the whistleblower on the torture program, and they railroaded him and sent him to prison.

[Big T]

John who?

[Co-host]

Kiriaku. Really interesting guy.

[Mad Dog]

Sorry, I said your name really wrong.

[Co-host]

He. He goes on podcasts all the time. I want to get him on this show.

[Big T]

Yeah, reach out, Maddie. Or you said you already did.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah, I. I'm having our talent bookers reach out.

[Co-host]

Sick.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Yeah, he could talk about all this stuff.

[Mad Dog]

Yep.

[Big T]

Definitely a. Something smells a little funny.

[Co-host]

And I only had one more thing. Did everyone see the ring commercial during the Super Bowl?

[Mad Dog]

I didn't. I don't know what people were talking about.

[Big T]

Yeah, I actually didn't see it.

[Co-host]

Oh, really? Y' all just go watch. It's 30 seconds. Go watch it real quick. It's the. The premise is someone has lost their dog and they're like. You know, if someone loses their dog, just Send us a picture of it and we'll activate our. Our network of ring cameras with facial recognition and all this stuff to find your dog. And it's like seemingly nobody knew that ring could remotely activate your ring camera with AI facial recognition technology and just turn every neighborhood into a spy state surveillance outfit.

[Big T]

I mean, awesome. This is insane. Saying, kind of to admit that you do this and then they.

[Co-host]

I think in the commercial it said we find one dog a day. I was like, one a day. 3, 300, 365 dogs in a year. And that necessitates the. This.

[Big T]

No, I. I think this is insane to. And in the. To put it on a commercial like, ton.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big T]

Touting it like, hey, you know that we. We can see you in all ways. And we use this.

[Mad Dog]

This article's from 4 months ago. Amazon's Ring to partner with Flock, a network of AI cameras used by ICE Feds and the police. So I mean, anything like, just. So every doorbell is just state, like funded surveillance.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

Awesome.

[Co-host]

And I mean, to be clear, like, ring cameras have caught criminals, which I guess is good.

[Mad Dog]

Hopefully Nancy Guthrie.

[Co-host]

But this just seems really. What's the Minority Report? Is that the movie? Yeah.

[Big T]

Well, yeah, that's where you try to catch crime before it happens.

[Co-host]

Yeah. I'm thinking of what. Eagle Eye.

[Big T]

Ah. With Will Smith. Wait, no.

[Co-host]

Shylock. Right.

[Big T]

Enemy of the State is what I'm talking about.

[Co-host]

Enemy of the State is Will Smith.

[Big T]

Yeah, similar. It's just the. The CIA constantly surveils, which they're doing. Oh, thousand percent. Yeah. It's for Snowden. I wonder what he's doing right now. Like, does he have a girlfriend? Like, what's his favorite food? I wonder how he's doing, man.

[Co-host]

Kind of a similar. Similar situation to John Kiriaku, the guy we were talking about.

[Big T]

Oh, he's been exiled.

[Co-host]

Well, he. He went to prison for blowing the whistle on the torture program.

[Big T]

But he's in the U.S. yeah.

[Co-host]

Yeah. He's out of jail and.

[Big T]

Got you. Got you paid his time.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Which is crazy.

[Mad Dog]

He's married Edward Snowden. It's. That's what it says. So to a Russian woman, American acrobat and blogger. She came to international attention. Her name's Lauren or Lindsay Mills. She came to international attention as the partner of former NSA contractor Edward Snowden in 2013 at the time of the global surveillance disclosures, and they married in 2017.

[Big T]

Nice. And apparently has love in Russia and.

[Mad Dog]

Apparently has two children.

[Big T]

Nice. Go ahead and live your life, Edward Snowden.

[Mad Dog]

We appreciate you and I believe, like, if I'm not completely mistaken, posts with him on this Instagram. Like she posts with him and just.

[Big T]

Living it up, huh?

[Mad Dog]

Makes him take self portraits.

[Big T]

Well, hope he's living a great life, man.

[Mad Dog]

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[Co-host]

Only other thing I had. Have you seen the video, the dashcam video of the woman in Chile who gets stopped on the highway?

[Big T]

Have not.

[Co-host]

Just go search Chile in her. Chile in. On Twitter, I guess a thing there is. I don't know if it's gangs or cartels or what, but they'll. They'll get you in a place on the road, like a highway off ramp where you can't go anywhere, and they'll stop, stop, and then get out of the car and try to rob you or whatever. And so that happens to this woman. Two guys jump out, they've got guns, and she just rams right through them. And. And just.

[Big T]

These are authorities or these just like.

[Co-host]

No, these are like criminals.

[Big T]

Some hoodlums.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Some gangsters.

[Co-host]

And what, though, she hits one and he goes flying, you know?

[Big T]

This is crazy. It's just like out of a movie, dog.

[Co-host]

Yeah. It's nuts.

[Big T]

Holy.

[Co-host]

Good for her, though. Yeah. Me. There's nothing else you can do at that point because the one guy's got a gun.

[Big T]

Such a wild place, though. I'll be trying to get good at golf, man. Try to find some peace. It's a lot. A lot of going on, man. Yeah, a lot of going on. I think that will do it today for nano dosing.

[Co-host]

What? Just one more thing we briefly touched on.

[Big T]

Sorry about that. Sorry about that.

[Co-host]

No, no, no, no, no. Just. We talked about the commercials and. And we did. We talked about this last year. I think it's. It's officially dead. I don't even consider the super bowl commercials a thing anymore. They're just not even very bad. Just pack it in.

[Big T]

It's. It's.

[Host]

It's over.

[Big T]

Unless somebody wants to, like, I don't know. Because a lot of, like, I. A lot of. I've seen a lot of them before. A lot of them were not that, like, surprising. The one with Jennifer Aniston and all them cats, that was kind of weird, right?

[Co-host]

Didn't like. Yeah, that was very weird. The Jurassic park one was weird fine. I guess the. Was it Coinbase that just had the words to I want it that way on the screen and at the end it said Coinbase like. Like, what. What the hell? You paid $10 million.

[Big T]

The NSync jump. I don't lie. We was all jammed at that. Am I a. That junk? Yeah.

[Co-host]

Oh, yeah, it was. It was Back Streets, Backstreet Boys, not. I wanted that.

[Big T]

Yes. I mean, same kind of. But, yeah, I was jamming to that. But. But as soon as they said the crypto at the end, we was all like, ah. It was waiting on what they wanted to sell us. But it was captivating. That was good marketing. But, like, I don't know. Yeah, it's just all. It's. Yeah, it's watered down. This could be like old people just saying, you know, I missed the old days.

[Co-host]

No, because I think everybody pretty much agrees there's nothing. It's all I now. None of it's good.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

The Mr. Beast commercial, I guess, is mildly interesting in that it's like a puzzle and somebody will win a million dollars. But other than that, I was not impressed by any of them.

[Big T]

Yeah, Moffat sucks. Yep. Well, we will see you guys on Thursday, and we'll be talking about kidnapers.

[Co-host]

All right.

[Big T]

Hit it. Big T. You have the most iconic sign off of all time.

[Co-host]

Goodbye.