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Jim Cramer
Hey, I'm Kramer. Welcome to Medmox. Welcome to Cramerica. Other people and my friends. I'm just trying to make a little money. My job is not just entertain, but to educate you. So call me at 1-800-743-CNBC or tweet me Jim Cramer. They don't start big, but we're beginning to see deals, important ones, and they aren't getting enough attention from the market or from the media for that matter. If anything, on the eve of the unofficial start to earnings season, they're being dismissed. And that's just plain stupid. I saw a downgrade today of Goldman Sachs, the principal deal house, and I almost have to laugh at about how wrongheaded that is. Oh, and let's not forget these mergers aren't just good news for the investment banks, they're good news for the entire stock market, which may be sensing something because we started the day down big and then rebounded with the dow closing up 88 points. This be advancing point 1.4% and then as a gaining point to 7%. You know what is actually a stupendous comeback, especially in light of some of the incredibly aggressive, some would say negative, tariff news from the president this weekend. Everywhere I went, people said, oh boy, I guess the market's going to be down big on Monday. Not so fast. Regular viewers know that. I think we have two markets here. Big institutional ventures. They've generally been selling, but individual investors have been buying stocks hand over fist. I don't think they seem to care about the tariffs. They know that everybody sold after the Liberation Day announcements and anyone who did it turned out to be a big mistake, they missed a big move. But don't be so short sighted. We're seeing the beginnings of an M and A boom here, even as it may not feel like it because often the deals seem, well, dowdy or let's say not clear yet or in the future. I mean it could be up Kraft Times. It's reportedly breaking up soon. People are yawning. So. So what? They're saying big deal. I say no, that is dead wrong. Companies said to be planning to keep its faster growing brands like maybe Heinz Ketchup, a lot of new derivatives there. Kraft Mac and Cheese Pacific, I'm sorry, Philadelphia Cream Cheese while separating the brands with the slowest growth like Oscar Mayer Packaged Foods. Velveeta cheese deal. Putting Hines and Craft together sounded like a match made in heaven in 2015. How could it fail? Great name brands orchestrated by Warren Buffett. The brilliant people from 3G Capital, the Uber successful Brazilian private equity firm felt like the center of the store. Blockbuster. But then people stopped going to the center aisles at the supermarket and that spelled trouble for Oscar Mayer for Jell O for Miracle, for Maxwell's, for Velveeta, which apparently can survive thermonuclear war. And she's whiz of whiz whit fame. If you go to Geno's in Philly, which means my go to place when I head to this city of buggy. Well, here's what's amazing. People now think these brands have no value. But you know what? That's what they said about W.K. kellogg, the cereal business when it split with Kellanova, the fast growing part of the Kellogg family. Which of course got a bid until the serial acquirer couldn't couldn't resist C R Y L and yes S E R I AL serial choir. Ferraro stepped up and paid 3.1 billion for the maker of Fruit Loops and Corn Flakes. That was some deal last week it was amazing. Sure, it's supposed to be a nightmare in a world where Human Health and Human Services Secretary RFK Jr. Is on a crusade against food coloring. But it was a dream come true for Ferraro, which has spent $13 billion in 10 years to expand around the globe. They don't want to be just a small Italian company. My feeling is that if Giovanni Ferraro sees value in food Loomis, he might see some value in some of the Kraft Heinz brands too. Or consider can view. 2 years ago this company was spun off by Johnson and John Smith wanted to unload his fantastic consumer business thinking like Tylenol, Neutrogena, Listerine, Aveeno, Sudafed, pepsid, Band Aids, Zyrtec and so many others all under one roof. The company picked this fellow Thibaut Mongol and he's the leader. He was the leader of JJ's consumer health division to run it. We learned today that he was sacked after activist pressure and Kirk Perry, a current director was named interim CEO. Can you also announce a strategic review of its brand stable? That's what we're hoping will happen at Kraft Heinz. Is this shocking? Was it amazing that can view already got rid of the CEO in two years? Well yes, if you saw the numbers can be reported -4% organic growth Wall street was expecting -2 to 4% but I bring this up because more deals are coming in that space. Any one of the majors. We thrilled to snap some of these brands because there's very little organic growth in the industry. The only way you can have any growth is buy it all right now how about this merger today between Beck and Dickinson. This was their life science and diagnostic division which which had been shopped extensively and Waters a really strong company. We've had them on a dominant player in exactly those fields. The deal was done in a very confusing reverse Morris Trust way which is one of those tax saving situations that the street almost always hates but the CEOs think is so smart and they hate it because they aren't easy. They're not clean. The merger was greeted with horrors for Waters which saw its stock plunge 13.5%. That's part of the greeting. It shouldn't have been down that much but people didn't understand it. Back in Dickinson's getting a 39.2% stake in the newly combined Waters. Yet after selling off this morning its stock actually finished in the black. Seemed like a great deal to me. Especially because the company got 4 billion in cash and assumed 4 billion in debt. Really good deal for Beckton Dickinson. But again it's hard to get your head around. So it didn't bring out many buyers. At least not today. Believe me, that will change. And people say that not everyone lost. Oh by the way, big winners included Barclays which represented Waters in Citi worked with Beckton Dixon in the $17 billion transaction. They made out like David's. Or how about one of tonight's guests Huntington bank shares which announced it was buying Veritex. I thought it was a tech company. No, it's Dow based Dallas based bank for 1.9 billion I know not huge but it puts Huntington in the queue to shed its regional status. Much more of a national bank, at least in the parts of the nation that are good for business. CEO Steve Steinhauer says that Vertex will help his Ohio based bank move into a number of cities in Texas which is one of the great growth states in the union. I think this is the kind of deal we'll start to see more and more of now that we have a new banking regulatory regimen and antitrust authorities that won't reflexively block acquisitions. We'll talk to Steve Steiner later in the show about how this acquisition fits into Huntington's aggressive long term plans. In the end what matters is that deals are getting done even if they're sometimes being done at prices that don't people don't like like the waters deal. I'm extremely confident that someone will want some of can you if not all of ken you because those brands grow slowly but if you put a bunch of together you might have something that Wall street is very excited about. And again it's not just about the takeover targets. These M and A deals are incredibly lucrative for the banks that orchestrate them. The results won't necessarily be seen this quarter so I can see why Citizens jmp, a brokerage house might take Goldman Sachs from buy to hold Goldman reports Wednesday and you won't see the bump in numbers from the deal market yet. However, these heart these heart of July deals are terrific harbinger for the fall. You don't usually get a lot of deals during this summer and I don't think it makes sense to sell Goldman here and then try to get back in it later. Good luck. Even if they missed the quarter on Wednesday, it's not going to stay down for long. I'm clearly not alone as the stock actually rallied more than eight bucks today despite this downgrade. Here's the bottom line. You don't get a wave of deals out of nowhere. You get a ripple and then ever bigger waves. Right now we're in the ripple stage. That's when it's best to do some buying. By the way, even if you think brands like Maxwell House and Visine and Corn Pops died years ago, don't worry about it. They may not be excited you but there are plenty of potential buyers who are excited about that. We happy to snap them up and the regulators are no longer blocking every M and A deal under the sun as we head into the bank earnings tomorrow. Don't think about the past. With Washington leaning against Every deal. Think about the future where it looks like the government is encouraging deals and is no mood to get in the way of capitalism. At least the way we used to know it. Let's go to Rick in Oklahoma.
Rick
Rick, Booyah, booyah.
Jim Cramer
Rick. What's up?
Rick
Club member for about two years. Hello, first time caller and thanks for all you do.
Jim Cramer
Oh, thank you. It's been a tough, you know. Yeah, just working, working around the clock right now it seems. But I'm glad you liked it. Thank you so much. How can I help? You.
Rick
Have a very, very fast shout out to the OKC Thunder for winning the NBA championship.
Jim Cramer
Absolutely. It did a good job. Okay.
Rick
And a few hundred shares of wind stock with a company, I think when.
Jim Cramer
You know, we were, we were at Wynne earlier this year and I was very worried about China. I still am. But my, they've got a good thing going. Craig Billings, such good manager. He's actually terrific and I'm glad to see that stock is finally starting to move. It's still very inexpensive on a P E basis. How about we go to JM Washington? J.
Rick
Hey Jimbo, how's it going?
Jim Cramer
Not bad, Jay. How about you?
Rick
I'm doing excellent, thank you. Hey, I'm a longtime listener and charter club member. Thanks for helping me retire early.
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There you go. As I told Casey Sullivan, our boss, we are changing people's lives. It's different from compensation that you're used to with dollars. It's a different kind of compensation. I like it more. How can I help you?
Rick
I used to work hard for my money. Now my money's working hard for me. In January I started building a large position in this best of breed company. Now I'm in the house of pain. I agree that it doesn't matter where stocks been, it's about where it's going. And I don't think this company is going to meet earnings expectations later this month and will keep falling anyway. I want to sell half my position now and the rest into any strength before earnings. Maybe invest the proceeds in and one of my growth stocks.
Jim Cramer
Okay.
Rick
This stock flatline and looks like dead money. What are your thoughts on UnitedHealth?
Jim Cramer
You know what? UnitedHealth is very, very tricky and it might be a long term turn. But I will tell you this. Steve Hemsley is the only person I know could possibly turn this thing around. Hemsley's back as CEO. He was amazing. I think you have to have fortitude to be in it. I don't like the situation because there's so many winners as you say. But at least I want people to know that I think Hemsley is the real deal. I look, you don't get a wave of deals out of nowhere, and now we're starting to see something happen. I think it's a sign that you got to do some buying. Look at the dip today. It was such a great opportunity again. Made Money tonight. It's one year since CrowdStrike to outage took down millions of PCs worldwide, and I'm sitting down with the company's bankable CEO to dig into their incredible recovery efforts. Then Zimmer Biomet announced an acquisition this morning that will strengthen its robotic surgery portfolio. I mentioned a couple acquisitions, not this one too small, but I'm hearing about robots in the future and what they're going to do because that company's not growing fast enough and I think this might accelerate it. And it's steel season, as I've said, Huntington bank shares are staffing up Texas based Vertex. What does it mean for the Lone Star State? What does it mean for the Buckeye State? What's it mean for your money? I'm going one on one with Huntington's top graphs to break it all down, so stay with Brainerd.
Rick
Foreign.
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It's hard to believe that it's been almost a year since CrowdStrike, the cyber security plate that we own for the Chapel Trust, accidentally caused widespread computer outages with a fully file update. Not a hack, a file update that sent millions of systems offline holding businesses across the globe. Now fast forward today though, and it's like the outage never happened. Not only is CrowdStrike stock up more than 135% from its post outage lows, it's up almost 40% from where it was trading before the outage. That's because cybersecurity is essential in this particular, cybersecurity firm is incredibly well run and loved in the industry. I've never seen such a rapid executed turnaround. Can it keep running? Let's take a closer look with George Kurtz, the bankable founder and CEO of CrowdStrike. Mr. Kurtz, welcome back to that money.
George Kurtz
Great to be here, Jim.
Jim Cramer
George, I know this was an event that you took head on. Not only did you not hide, but you went out, told everybody everything. Could you give us a bit of a minute by minute of what happened and how you swung into action?
George Kurtz
Well, as you recall, Jim, you were on vacation that Friday and I had to get you out of bed or what you were doing to get it on the line, to get in front of this and talk to the public, talk to people. Obviously, a big part of our success at CrowdStrike has been transparency and accountability. Right. And there was an issue with a configuration file that caused the outage. We were able to revert it back and then the work began to help customers recover. But the first thing that we wanted to do was to make sure everyone knew what happened and what we're going to do about it to make it right.
Jim Cramer
You know, it's funny, people regard you as a PR mastermind. I don't think it's true. I think we are. Was someone who just said, here's what I'm going to do, I'm going to do it, get ready, I'm sorry, let's move. And that's not pr, that's just action.
George Kurtz
It was Jim, you know, you think about that day, which I certainly remember and I'm sure you do as well as, you know, not many CEOs are going to just run on TV and talk about this. Right. They're going to consult their lawyers and PR firms and everything else. And for me, it was important to make sure that we, we explained what happened, that we took accountability for it and told people how we're going to fix it and work with all of our customers, which has paid, I believe, dividends. You know, our customers love us. We have more customers because of the ability to be transparent. And yeah, we had a glitch, we fixed it. But given what we've talked about and what we put out on the one year anniversary, just an update of all the changes that we've made and all the resiliency that we've built in and all the safeguards. It's been an incredible journey with our customers and partners. Partners and lots of people who pitched in. So I think we just tried to do the right thing and always keep the North Star as the customer is, is always in focus for us and do it right by the customer.
Jim Cramer
I saw you in Italy. You were at that point on your tour. I mean, it wasn't like a, it was, it was an apology tour. What can I say? And did everybody agree to see you that you called or were there some people said, listen, don't bother, I don't want to see ever again.
George Kurtz
You know, for the most part we were able to, excuse me. Talk to or see customers that wanted to see us. They understand that things happen. And in fact there are many customers, you know, we Went through what happened and why it happened and why it won't happen again. But they sort of, you know, chuckled at the end and said, you know, they break more things than anyone else when they change their own system. So they were a bit understanding and they realized that these sort of things can happen.
Rick
But.
George Kurtz
But from my perspective, you know, I think it was great to get in front of these customers to meet with them and, you know, they want to.
Jim Cramer
See people that they don't.
George Kurtz
They want to actually.
Jim Cramer
They don't want you.
George Kurtz
Yeah, they want to see. Yeah.
Jim Cramer
Now, you know, I was kind of disturbed by. There's. There were cyber spending cuts in this. Most recent. In the big beautiful bill, a 1.2 billion cut in cyberspending. 10% drop. How could anyone ever think they can get away with that? I mean, the federal government is being hacked every second.
George Kurtz
Well, when I think about the federal government or any governments in general, they're certainly under cost pressure. And what CrowdStrike has been able to do with its platform strategy is reduce overall costs, reduce overall complexity, reduce the number of agents or the pieces of software that are running in an environment and give them better outcomes. So I think for the first time, you see the federal government really focused on running itself like a business business and trying to drive cost and complexity out of it. With our AI technology in Charlotte, with the ability to consolidate, with the ability to understand from an intelligence perspective what these nation states are actually doing, I think it actually is going to play into our favor long term.
Jim Cramer
I was thinking about transparency and thinking about the idea that you have to own up about what happens. And I was surprised to see. I know Delta sued you, and I was looking at their annual report, and they said, this is the February 25th annual report. The airline claimed not experienced any material cybersecurity incidents over the past three years, reported only immaterial cybersecurity expenses. I mean, it's almost as if, until the clients own up, that they got hurt. I think people could say, you know what? I can get away with this. I'm not going to. I'm not going to put any money in this.
George Kurtz
Well, I mean, that's the thing. When you look at these sort of cyber issues that are out there, you know, we respond to, I don't know, probably more than 50% of the large breaches that are out there helping customers actually recover from them. And then generally they become customers. But a lot of times you'll see a lack of investment in cybersecurity until something bad happens. And I think that's one of those areas when you look at the secular trends around security. You know, security's up sometimes in the market, security's down, but at the end of the day, security and technology are always going to advance forward. The technology change is just too rapid and all these technologies are going to need security. So from a secular perspective, we think it's a great place to be. And you know, companies are going to need more and more security as the attacks continue to be more and more sophisticated.
Jim Cramer
Yeah, we keep hearing about Chase Wong talking about that the machines will be able to reason and reason really well. Right now you get a right prompt and you get it right. When the machines can reason, won't they figure out how to get into anybody if the bad guys can program it?
George Kurtz
Well, that's the, that's the hard part right now when you think about how fast AI is moving. It's hard part, but it's also an opportunity. Like the bad guys are moving much faster. And there's always this time element of security. Obviously you want to prevent as much as you can, but if there's an incident, you want to be able to identify it very quickly and then be able to remediate it. And with AI it really democratizes how many more adversaries are out there even with limited skill sets. So from that standpoint, the threat environment continues to evolve, it continues to get faster. But on the same side, the defenders like CrowdStrike, who have used AI since I started the company was machine learning, now it's Genai are able to also combat what these adversaries are doing. So you've got to use AI to protect customers and you also have to use AI to protect AI. And at the end of the day, we think we're in a fantastic spot. We think we're in a leader in that position with our Charlotte AI technology.
Jim Cramer
I know when I read people like Dan Ives, who's one of my favorite, who just says, listen, you are the gold standard. I couldn't agree more. Last question I have is I speak to a lot of people who've been hacked. They don't want to talk about. I get that this is pre when you have to disclose it, but also post and they all say the same thing, which is like, you know, I got this call from George Kershaw. I know if I could, if he could do anything to help, but you weren't there. You, they were paying you. You do that?
George Kurtz
Yeah, we do, we do that all the time. I mean, obviously have relationships in the industry, but Even without a relationship, you know, we try to help all the time, whether it's a customer, non customer. A lot of times what we'll see when we investigate something is we'll see an ancillary intrusion into another company and they may not be a customer of ours. So we'll routinely call them up and basically say, hey, look, we think we saw something. We're happy to help, you know, if you have other service providers, you know, work with them, but we're there to help. And at the end of the day, security really is a, is a community effort and it really comes down to the people insecurity. It comes down certainly to technology, but you have to use the collective community to be able to protect everyone else. And we want to be good stewards of this information and help out as many people as well.
Jim Cramer
I think it works because your competitors all said the same thing to me, which is I have nothing but good things to say. When the outage occurred, of course I was looking for a story about, well, what is this? How did this happen? They also, by the grace of God, because they know how hard you work and how good your company is. Last question. Look, we are bought, we bombed Iran. We're talking about going hard against Russia. The Cold war with China doesn't seem very cold, seems very warm. And how. So what is the geopolitical situation look like?
George Kurtz
Whenever there's geopolitical tensions, the cyber attacks go up. We've seen it. We've seen wiper malware that's destructive malware. We've seen intrusions into critical areas that are focused on really understanding the lay of the landscape and what's happening in the governments, governments around the world as things move. So that geopolitical tension really does drive additional security needs. And as I said, it's only going to get worse as AI now comes into play and as the adversaries and even nation states leverage more and more AI, create this sort of virtual army of agents that can attack other countries. You just have to be on your game. And I think it's a great opportunity for CrowdStrike, you know, certainly where we are today and the long term opportunity to, to get to our goal of 10 billion.
Jim Cramer
Well, thank you, George. And everyone should know you can. George is very transparent. You can go back and read this one day it'll just be a case study and we'll know. But when something goes wrong, you go the George way. You don't do anything else. George Kurtz is founder and CEO of CrowdStrike. I always love you having you on, George. Thank you.
George Kurtz
Thank you, Jim.
Jim Cramer
Yeah. Bunny's back into the break.
Coming up as pickleball injuries rise, Kramer's eyeing one company poised to cash in on America's fastest growing sport. Next.
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Jim Cramer
Baby. Merger Mondays are back. We got some sizable deals today across a bunch of different industries and some smaller ones too, like Zimmer Biomet, the medical device maker announcing its plan to pay nearly $200 billion upfront for monogram Technologies Orthopedics robot company with a set of semi autonomous and fully autonomous robotic technologies that will be used to improve Zimmer's main robotics platform called Rosa Robotics. I like this because the robotic surgery space is one of the most interesting corners of the health care sector. Still, what Zimmer actually getting with this deal and is it enough to get investors excited about a stock that's been more or less rangebound for years? Let's talk about it with Yvonne Tornadoes. He's the chairman, president and CEO of Zimmer Biometric. Welcome back to May Money.
Yvonne Tornadoes
Great to be back Jim. Always a lot of fun to be in your show.
Jim Cramer
Thank you. So Yvonne, I need to get a sense of what you really get with this company because I looked at it's pre, it's kind of pre revenue, hasn't really done much but at the same time it seems to have very good technology.
Yvonne Tornadoes
A good day in health care. And it's a bold move. Through this acquisition, Zimmer Biomet, the number one company already today in hip and replacement, will have a fast pathway to become the only company that can do semi autonomous robotics and fully autonomous robotics. So it's a bold move and yes, we're going to have to wait for the revenue but it's going to be very compelling for patients and shareholders.
Jim Cramer
So you're able to put this right, slip this right into your suite immediately.
Yvonne Tornadoes
It's going to become one of the components or what is going to be the most comprehensive suite of solutions. We're going to have Rosa, as you mentioned, image less robotics, we're going to have portable navigation, portable robotics, we're going to have mixed reality applications. And yes, we will have now the only, and I want to say that out loud, the only autonomous robot that can do more than executing surgical tasks. It can control and understand the entire surgery. So it's breadth of portfolio category leadership are more patient and customer choices.
Jim Cramer
So just tell me if I'm a shareholder of Monogram. You've got a very interesting structure this, the cbr which seems like to me might be a good, good thing to have.
Yvonne Tornadoes
It makes a lot of sense for patients, it makes a lot of sense for shareholders. This deal is EPS neutral right away from 2025 through 2027 and it's accretive after that. We generate revenue starting in 2027. And to your point, the CBR makes a lot of sense. The enterprise value of this acquisition is about $160 million and we pay as we go. And I hope we do end up paying everything with these earnouts because that will mean Zimmer Biomed really driving market share in a very meaningful way over the next five years.
Jim Cramer
So what?
Yvonne Tornadoes
So again I hope we end up paying.
Jim Cramer
I think that's a very positive attitude. It could be now even tell me what's going on right now in this market because I look at Stryker, I look at you guys, I mean you're really incredibly high tech company so Stryker. And yet your price journeys multiples are, are lower than I think they should be. What would it take to get the kind of multiple expansion that you and I both know you should be getting given how high tech you really are?
Yvonne Tornadoes
Look, listen, the stock has been challenged in the past for some challenges and that is shorter term uncertainty.
Jim Cramer
Right.
Yvonne Tornadoes
But what it is certain is that technology that solves meaningful problems for customers and patients at some point will get rewarded. So, Jim, I don't think it's any more complex than giving it some time and proving every quarter that all this innovation that we're acquiring really, truly changes the standard occur in the way that monogram technology will change the standard occur. So let's give you some time.
Jim Cramer
All right, so give me a sense of baby boomers what they're doing and millennials what they're doing. And we play pickle with your pickle paddles. And we know that people who haven't had, who are just doing kind of non impact exercise or suddenly doing impact exercise, they're, they're part of the people who suddenly get hurt. I know so many people are getting new knees. It's anecdotal. I know new hips. My wife's getting a new knee. So I'm really focused on this. And it just seems like it's like an epidemic of use. What are you seeing out there?
Yvonne Tornadoes
We love pickleball players like you and your wife. We love people that are mobile, within the business of restoring mobility. And we've been doing since 1927. Today, one of every three primary care visits here in the US is a patient with some sort of arthritis issue. And look, there are 600 million patients on earth that should be going to see those primary care doctors. And most of them are not doing that. We're getting older, we're getting more mobile. We want to get a better lifestyle. We want to be young again. And technology like robotics, like smart implants, like Best in Class knee and hip products like the ones we've been commercializing since 1927 gets you back on the pickleball court. So we are busy, but I think we're going to get busy.
Jim Cramer
One last question. How about holding costs down? Does it hold costs down if you have the full, full sweet soup, the nuts?
Yvonne Tornadoes
The most important element of cost is reducing the time in the hospital, reducing the time in surgery, making sure that readmissions don't come back. Efficiency in one word. And a smart technology like monogram technology drives efficiency and best in class outcomes. That means you're getting back to the pickleball core sooner. That means you're not spending time in the hospital. That means you potentially can do your surgery in an ASC ambulatory surgical center. So yes, efficiency does reduce costs.
Jim Cramer
Well, congratulations on the deal. Everybody wants this stuff to be as robotic and as efficient as possible. Thank you. Yvonne Tornado, he's the chairman, president, CEO of Zimmer by me. Good to have you on the show again, sir. Thank you.
Yvonne Tornadoes
Thank you Jim. Appreciate the time.
Jim Cramer
Yeah, but I'm back here.
Coming up, everything's bigger in Texas including Huntington bank shares footprint after today's acquisition. Cramer talks to the CEO about its $1.9 billion deal. Next.
This morning at a real bank merger, one of my favorites, Huntington bank shares the Ohio based regional bank. Now since buying the Texas based regional bank Veritex in an all stock deal that values the target at just under $2 billion. Now the grand scheme of things, this is a small transaction. I didn't even know Veritex. But it helps Huntington grow in Texas, a market where it was already expanding aggressively. Plus the company also preannounced most of the key lines of its second quarter earnings report. But due Friday numbers are pretty darn good when you back out some one time items. Huntington posted solid earnings with better than expected debt and fine looking credit quality metrics. So let's dig deeper with Steve Steiner as the chairman, president, CEO of Huntington Bank Share. Get a better read the situation. Steiner, welcome back to Mad Money.
Steve Steiner
Jim, great to be with you again.
Rick
Thank you.
Jim Cramer
Ok, so Steve, let's talk about why you want to expand in Texas, how good that market is and why Veritex is the right partner.
Steve Steiner
But Jim, as you know we're very large in the Midwest and as we look to diversify our earnings and revenue capabilities throughout high growth areas, Texas is a logical next expansion for us. We've been there since 2009. We've had great growth and success and we've got 5.6 billion in loans outstanding, will cost 6 billion this year anyway. We've got a couple hundred employees in Texas, we call them colleagues and so we're familiar with it. Texas itself is an economic powerhouse and we're very excited to be going there with Veritex, a great organization.
Jim Cramer
It's interesting in the conference call, Steve, I thought it was very poignant when you said look, they have an incredible story. It's very different story from most of the banks you deal with. And they even had this fellow Malcolm Holland, who I guess I imagine must be some incredible entrepreneur that a lot of people want to do business with. And he's staying on.
Steve Steiner
He is. And think about this, he started the bank in 2010. Remember how tough it was then. And, and they have just been on a roll since Malcolm is an important leader for us going forward. We partner well with Banks like we did with TCF four years ago. And that has proven to be a home run opportunity, a combination that has delivered fantastic results. We're very optimistic about doing the same with Malcolm and his team at Veritex.
Jim Cramer
Now it looks like under the Biden administration, unless a bank was failing, they couldn't get in doing anything. This seems like a fresh new page here. You got a very profitable bank in Vertex, profitable bank in hunting bank shares. No. 1. Regulators don't seem to mind that at all, do they?
Steve Steiner
Well, you know, there's a more constructive overall business tone, not just in banking. And we are clearly benefiting from the constructive tone in our sector. And it's reflected in the approach that this, this still came together in four weeks. It's a record for us and we have done an exhaustive due diligence. We're very confident in our outcome and we've had huge success in integrating in the past.
Jim Cramer
Well, when I look at your expansion plans, it seems like that you've really, I mean you could say, well, hold it. Did they skip over places? I would say no. You're in all the places that seem to be pro business.
Steve Steiner
Yes, on purpose. And Texas is one of those that's best in the world in terms of pro business. We love what we're doing in north and South Carolina as well. So we're in three of the top, fastest growing five states in the US now in a major way.
Jim Cramer
So tell me about when you looked at the quarter. You felt like you could pre announce it to me. It looked very solid, which leads me to believe that all the worries that we might have had about a slowdown in the regions that you're in just didn't, didn't happen. I mean business is strong in the country.
Steve Steiner
It's a great quarter for us. We were having such a good quarter. We took about a 4 cent one time just to move some securities off the balance sheet. And we still met consensus. So we had, if you do an add back, we had a 16% beat. It was a sensational quarter. Credit was outstanding. 20 basis points of charge offs revenue expanded NIM net interest income by 3%. NIM expanded capital grew. It literally hit on all cylinders for us.
Jim Cramer
Do you think we're done with that securities repositioning? I saw that and I said, oh boy, I don't know. I don't want to see that to be the start of something like that.
Steve Steiner
Well, we've only done one in the last since interest rates started moving up four years ago. It happened to be this quarter. And in part it was a reflection of just some level of uncertainty about where longer rates are going to go with the discussions around tariffs. So we thought it was a good de risking move at the right time and we have plenty of capacity to do it. When I we don't anticipate another.
Jim Cramer
Okay. When I read through your financials, I said to myself, I would not necessarily call the Fed chief. Too late, pal. I mean to me he's looking at some parts of the economy that are very, very strong. Doesn't want to make the wrong move. I know that in a less political time I think people would just say he's being prudent.
Steve Steiner
But we saw this in the early 1980s when there was a double dip. The Fed increased rates significantly but inflate the inflation. They they provided relief too quickly. Inflation returned and then rates really shot up to the roof. That was when prime was 21%. So I think there's a prudence in this action. But we now have the big beautiful build pass so we know what taxes are. If we get one, we get through the tariff uncertainties, which looks like it's going to be another month or two. I think the underlying economy is in good shape and we're seeing that in the credit quality and I think the industry will have good credit quality this quarter.
Jim Cramer
Well, you know, you mentioned the big beautiful bill that asks you're a banker and you're really smart about these things. I deal with a lot of people are not that all that's who are rich but not all that sophisticated about the different changes that were made in the big beautiful bill. There are elements of depreciation and elements of R and D credits that could unleash trillions of dollars in spending. And no one believes.
Steve Steiner
I'm on your page. I think the accelerated depreciation will be a huge boost to the onshore manufacturing and other expansions that companies are looking to do in the US and so we're the fourth or fifth largest equipment financier in the country. We love this provision. We think it's going to be very significant to economic activity in 26 and beyond.
Jim Cramer
Now, are your bankers making that call? Are you telling people, look, this could be a great opportunity to expand?
Steve Steiner
We are. That's reflected in the investment with veritex. We grew loans 8% on average over this past year. So as we said last August on the show with you, you know, we think we can be part of the economic equation, part of the solution set to to grow the economy. And we're Certainly doing more than our part. We're peer leading.
Jim Cramer
Now do you want to be in all states or do you just want to be in the states that you know are very, very like to grow and don't like to punish business?
Steve Steiner
We're targeting higher growth pro business states and that's why the entry into north and South Carolina several years ago, it's gone hugely successful. And the growth we have in Texas that we've built over time really like and understand that market. And we are thrilled to have Malcolm and team join us from Veritex. Texans like to do business with Texans and and we have one of the great businessmen in Texas joining us.
Jim Cramer
What I'm not hearing from you is that look, I'm really concerned about the tariffs. The tariffs are putting a lot of people on hold. It could really cause a lot of inflation. This is a frightening time. I'm not hearing any of that stuff from you.
Steve Steiner
Well, I believe there is an impact with the uncertainties of tariffs. Having said that, the core economy is really performing well and it's showing up in terms of credit quality, it's showing up in terms of for US loan growth. And so we're optimistic about it. You still have very low unemployment levels by historic standards. So this feels like once we get a few of the issues settled and they're getting resolved, the last one big one I think is tariffs, the economy is going to going to rebound a bit and, and, and we're going to see economic growth at important levels.
Jim Cramer
I totally share that view. I just really think that people have to recognize as long as there's unemployment that is low, that's the secret of our great country. And you got it dead right. I think your plans are terrific. Steve Steiner. He's the president, CEO of chairman of Huntington Banks. As we champion this thing right through the 23 crisis, the whole thing, it's just been a great stock to be in. Mayor, my back. Get those right. It is time for the white round Christian quarter number six. That might say I have to play this out and then the lightning round is over. Are you ready? Ski dag? Time for the light round. Kramer sesame. Let's go to Charles in Tennessee. Charles.
Rick
Hey, big Harvard Crimson grad student. Bouillon.
Jim Cramer
Oh, yeah. Well, those are the days. Those were the days. Man. I couldn't sleep on Tuesdays then. Okay, you're there now.
Rick
I, I, I'm go back and forth.
Jim Cramer
Yeah, good for you. Good for you.
Rick
I fly back and.
Jim Cramer
All right. Anyhow. Excellent.
Rick
ODP Office Depot.
Jim Cramer
Yeah, you got to look at the away from the US to understand why ODP actually could be an okay situation. I'm not going to buy the six times earning stock. As long as it's making money, I think you're okay. It's an interesting spec. Let's go to Brett in California. Brett, Jen.
Rick
Brett for California.
Jim Cramer
California. Palo Alto.
Rick
Is it good to buy at this level?
Jim Cramer
I like to. I want to live at Palo Alto and I want to own the stock of Palo Alto. That's how I feel about nikesh Aurora doing a fabulous job. You know, imagine Kirk's Audrey too. This industry attracts a lot of real smart people. Let's go to Nicole in California. Nicole, Jim, thank you so much for taking my call. Of course. My question. Thank you. My question is like health care just seems like a slippery slope, but we all need it. Tell me if it's not this one, what can I get? New techs. I don't know, new text. I don't want to end on one that I don't know. Come on. Oh, darn it. Come on. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the conclusion of the Lightning Round.
The Lightning round is sponsored by Charles Schwab. Coming up, new week, new acronym. Kramer's got a fresh batch of stocks to watch and reveals the names next.
And the winner is park, as in Parc. Your money in these four stocks to stop worrying about tariffs, China, the Fed, pretty much anything else. Just enjoy the magic carpet ride. If you're a tape reader Zion, then you've noticed that you tend to see four stocks go by more than any others. Palantir, Applovin, Robinhood and Coinbase Park. They're the meme stocks of this era. Stocks that long ago kind of ceased to be stocks, at least in traditional way. They now become chits in the great gain that is the stock market. And they're. They're moved up like the old GameStop through sheer force of buying from home gamers who refuse to sell. Except that unlike Gamestop, these are all amazing growth companies. It's exciting to see how the mean people have figured it out. Buy the stocks of companies that are doing well and don't worry about how much you pay for them. If they have great growth, there will always be someone who will want to pay more for growth. And they are right because growth is the only safety in this market. That's why today I said I wanted to find an acronym for them. Not to ridicule them, but actually because I enjoy them. I'm thrilled for them. I got to see that there. I wanted a Consensus around these four insanely strong stocks and how they just don't have any quit in them. So park has been born. There were others that people. Let's just say now, many people in my Twitter file chose to use a far less flattering anagram, embracing the same four letters in reverse order. Perhaps because they don't understand how this game works. So let me tell you first, all four of these companies are actually fabulous businesses. Well run with dynamite financials, great leadership, even if their stocks have certainly rallied to gonzo levels. Palantir is among the fastest growing tech companies I can recall. It's got a projected annual growth rate of 18 to 25% out to 2030, with a market capitalization of $352 billion may not sound that impressive. Two years ago, it was 35 billion. What does Palantir do? I say, what doesn't it do? You bring Palantir in to look at patterns, to figure out how to run your business better. I've never heard anyone say that they aren't terrific at what they do, making your company money almost the minute you bring them in. They're also trying to make the Pentagon more efficient, but that's a tall order. I hope they succeed. So should you. Applovin is a usually profitable way for companies to advertise through mobile video games, which are typically free as long as you watch the ads. This company's got some software and AI solutions that make it smarter, unassailable. They have no real competition. The revenue growth is stunning. It was a $10 billion company two years ago. Now it's 120 billion. As this is the company that can get your ad in front of everyone who plays games on their phone. I know it's richly valued. I don't care. When you have no competition, well, guess what? You do pretty darn well. Do I have to describe Robinhood to you? It's an app. No. It's a bank. No. It's repository of wealth, of millennials, whatever you want to call it. Robin and his Twitter 25 million accounts. And it offers ETFs, options, gold, and crypto. It came out of nowhere. This company was worth $11 billion two years ago. Now it's 88 billion again. Incredibly profitable. Out of nowhere, it seems to have captured young people who would otherwise not bother to invest. You know what I say? Hallelujah. Finally, coinbase means crypto. 52 million Americans have kept their their crypto. They're part of 100 million users globally. It's the only crypto company in the S and P 500. So it's the. The perfect poster child for the group again. Coinbase. Immensely profitable and at 40 times earnings, it's actually the cheapest. The group. How can that be? All right. There, you got it. It's Park. Now, why did I think of this? Because on Friday, we held our CNBC Investing Club annual meeting. Was a joyous event. We really lit it up. One individual wanted to know if we'd ever recommend speculative stocks. I said we run a charitable trust. And while I approve of speculation, most people don't. I didn't feel it was in keeping with our mission. But I thought about it all weekend. I realized that I should just give you the list of stocks where it seems like if you enter a sell order and it was found out, they tar and feather you. Is there any valuation that would be too much to pay for Park, I can tell you from where I stand, absolutely not. The money is parked in these names. The buyers are insatiable. They are for speculation. About as great a gift as you can possibly have, at least for now and probably for some time to come. Just remember to ring the register for some of it. On the way up, try to take out your cost basis. And then the ultimate thing you could do. Play with the house. Is money. Oh.
Rick
Shh.
Jim Cramer
I won't tell anyone that you sold it, I promise. I like to say there's always more markets on my promise, but just for you, right here on Made Money, I'm Jim Cramer. I'm going to see you tomorrow.
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Mad Money w/ Jim Cramer – Episode Summary (07/14/25)
Host: Jim Cramer
Release Date: July 14, 2025
Platform: CNBC
Jim Cramer kicked off the episode by addressing the current state of the stock market, highlighting a significant rebound despite aggressive tariff news from the president. He noted the Dow’s impressive climb, closing up 88 points and advancing 1.4% (02:15).
Jim Cramer [02:15]: "The Dow closing up 88 points and advancing 1.4% is a stupendous comeback, especially in light of some of the incredibly aggressive tariff news from the president this weekend."
Cramer emphasized the dichotomy between institutional investors who have been selling and individual investors who continue to buy stocks passionately. He forecasted the beginning of an M&A (Mergers and Acquisitions) boom, asserting that current deals, though sometimes undervalued or overlooked, are set to drive significant market growth.
Jim Cramer [04:00]: "We're seeing the beginnings of an M&A boom here, even as it may not feel like it because often the deals seem dowdy or not clear yet."
Key Focus Areas:
Kraft Heinz Split: Cramer discussed Kraft Heinz's strategic split, retaining fast-growing brands like Heinz Ketchup and Philadelphia Cream Cheese while offloading slower-growing ones like Oscar Mayer and Velveeta.
Beckton Dickinson and Waters Merger: Highlighted the reverse Morris Trust merger between Beckton Dickinson and Waters, which initially saw Waters’ stock plunge but ultimately demonstrated a strong strategic fit.
Cramer transitioned to a significant interview segment with George Kurtz, Founder and CEO of CrowdStrike, focusing on the company’s remarkable recovery following a major outage caused by a configuration file error.
Jim Cramer [15:00]: "It's hard to believe that it's been almost a year since CrowdStrike accidentally caused widespread computer outages. Now, it’s like the outage never happened."
Key Discussion Points:
Transparency and Accountability: Kurtz emphasized CrowdStrike's commitment to transparency, swiftly addressing the outage and maintaining customer trust.
George Kurtz [16:28]: "A big part of our success has been transparency and accountability. We took ownership of the issue and worked diligently to fix it."
AI in Cybersecurity: The conversation delved into how AI technologies are both a tool for adversaries and defenders, with CrowdStrike leveraging AI to stay ahead in the cybersecurity landscape.
George Kurtz [21:26]: "With AI, you have to use AI to protect AI. We are in a fantastic position with our Charlotte AI technology."
Geopolitical Impacts: Kurtz highlighted the correlation between geopolitical tensions and increased cyber threats, positioning CrowdStrike as a leader poised to capitalize on the growing need for advanced cybersecurity solutions.
George Kurtz [24:13]: "Whenever there's geopolitical tension, cyber attacks go up. This increases the security needs, which benefits companies like CrowdStrike."
In another insightful interview, Cramer welcomed Yvonne Tornadoes, Chairman, President, and CEO of Zimmer Biomet, to discuss the company’s acquisition of Monogram Technologies Orthopedics.
Jim Cramer [28:00]: "Zimmer Biomet is poised to become the only company that can do semi-autonomous and fully autonomous robotics in healthcare."
Key Highlights:
Expansion of Robotics Portfolio: The acquisition aims to integrate Monogram’s advanced robotic technologies into Zimmer Biomet’s existing suite, enhancing their Rosa Robotics platform.
Yvonne Tornadoes [28:41]: "With this acquisition, we will have the most comprehensive suite of autonomous surgical robots, setting a new standard in patient care."
Market Potential: Tornadoes projected substantial growth in the healthcare robotics sector, driven by increasing demand for minimally invasive surgeries and improved patient outcomes.
Yvonne Tornadoes [32:16]: "Technology like robotics and smart implants get patients back on the pickleball court faster, driving both patient satisfaction and cost efficiency."
Cost Efficiency: Emphasizing the role of robotics in reducing surgical time and hospital stays, ultimately lowering overall healthcare costs.
Yvonne Tornadoes [32:23]: "Efficiency in our technology means reducing hospital time and costs, allowing for more surgeries in ambulatory centers."
Cramer interviewed Steve Steiner, Chairman, President, and CEO of Huntington Bank, about the recent acquisition of Veritex, a Dallas-based bank, valued at approximately $1.9 billion.
Jim Cramer [34:12]: "Huntington Bank is expanding aggressively in Texas with the acquisition of Veritex, enhancing its national footprint."
Discussion Points:
Strategic Expansion: Steiner explained the rationale behind targeting high-growth, pro-business states like Texas, leveraging Veritex’s strong local presence to bolster Huntington’s market share.
Steve Steiner [34:22]: "Texas is an economic powerhouse, and partnering with Veritex allows us to tap into its vibrant market effectively."
Leadership Integration: Assurance of continuity with Veritex’s leadership, particularly founder Malcolm Holland, remaining integral to the merged entity.
Steve Steiner [35:15]: "Malcolm Holland is an incredible entrepreneur, and his leadership will drive our continued success in Texas."
Economic Outlook: Optimism about the overall economic landscape, with Steiner highlighting low unemployment and robust credit quality as indicators of sustained growth.
Steve Steiner [39:01]: "The core economy is performing well, reflected in our strong credit quality and loan growth."
Cramer engaged with callers, addressing their investment queries and offering stock recommendations. Highlights include:
Rick from Oklahoma (08:45 - 10:45): Shared excitement about Wind Stock and discussed concerns over UnitedHealth’s performance.
Jim Cramer [10:45]: "UnitedHealth is very tricky, but with Steve Hemmels back as CEO, there's potential for a turnaround."
Other Callers: Brief discussions on stocks like Office Depot (ODP), Palo Alto Networks, and health tech investments.
In a special segment, Cramer introduced the concept of “Park” stocks—Palantir, Applovin, Robinhood, and Coinbase—highlighting their growth and resilience in the market.
Jim Cramer [44:12]: "Park has been born. These are the meme stocks of this era, moving up like GameStop through sheer force of buying from passionate investors."
Key Insights:
Palantir: Rapid growth with a projected annual rate of 18-25% through 2030, serving diverse sectors including defense and business analytics.
Applovin: Dominating mobile advertising with AI-driven solutions, boasting an impressive revenue surge from $10 billion to $120 billion in two years.
Robinhood: Revolutionizing retail investing with 25 million accounts, making investing accessible to millennials and beyond.
Coinbase: The sole crypto company in the S&P 500, maintaining a strong user base with over 52 million Americans engaged in cryptocurrency trading.
Jim Cramer [48:26]: "These companies are fabulous businesses with dynamite financials and great leadership. Their growth is the only safety in this market."
Cramer concluded the episode by reiterating the potential of the featured stocks and encouraging investors to consider long-term growth opportunities amidst market fluctuations.
Jim Cramer [48:38]: "When something goes wrong, you go the George way. You don’t do anything else. Stay confident and focus on the future."
Jim Cramer [02:15]: "The Dow closing up 88 points and advancing 1.4% is a stupendous comeback..."
George Kurtz [16:28]: "A big part of our success has been transparency and accountability..."
Yvonne Tornadoes [28:41]: "With this acquisition, we will have the most comprehensive suite of autonomous surgical robots..."
Steve Steiner [34:22]: "Texas is an economic powerhouse, and partnering with Veritex allows us to tap into its vibrant market effectively."
Jim Cramer [44:12]: "Park has been born. These are the meme stocks of this era..."
M&A Activity: A surge in mergers and acquisitions is poised to reshape various industries, offering lucrative opportunities for investors.
Cybersecurity Leadership: CrowdStrike exemplifies effective crisis management and the critical role of AI in modern cybersecurity.
Healthcare Innovation: Zimmer Biomet’s strategic acquisitions signal a transformative shift towards advanced robotic surgeries, promising enhanced patient outcomes and cost efficiencies.
Banking Expansion: Huntington Bank’s acquisition of Veritex underscores the importance of strategic geographical expansion in high-growth markets like Texas.
Meme Stocks Evolution: The emergence of “Park” stocks demonstrates the evolving landscape of meme stocks, driven by strong fundamentals and passionate investor bases.
Disclaimer: All opinions expressed by Jim Cramer on this podcast are solely his own and do not reflect the opinions of CNBC, NBCUniversal, or their parent company or affiliates. This summary is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as financial advice.