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Judge
Good morning people.
Ema Bovey
Ema Bovey for President Trump who's appearing via teams. He's co located with my partner Todd Blanche.
Donald Trump
All right.
Judge
Good morning, Ms. Bovey. Good morning, Mr. Blanche. Good morning, Mr. Trumpet.
Donald Trump Attorney
Good morning.
Judge
Although Mr. Bovey has already alluded to it, just for the record, I want to make clear that Mr. Blanche is appearing virtually with Mr. Trump and you're currently in Florida, is that correct?
Donald Trump Attorney
Yes, that's correct, your honor.
Judge
Okay. And Mr. Trump's other attorney, Mr. Bovey is with us in courtroom. Pursuant to this court's decision and order dated January 3, 2025, Mr. Trump was given the option of appearing virtually and subsequently, counsel for Mr. Trump informed this court that Mr. Trump had elected to waive personal appearance and appear virtually. Position sentence in this matter is permitted in New York and I direct your attention to the matter of people be Reyes 72 miscellaneous 3rd 1133202021 before turning to the matter of sentencing, I want to confirm that the people and defense council have both received copies of the probation report. You have not. Thank you. Let the record reflect that people are being handed a copy now Mr. Bo is being handed a copy. Why don't you take some time and look at it? Okay, thank you. While the parties look at the probation report, Mr. Blanchard, like to confirm that you received an e copy of the report?
Donald Trump Attorney
Yes, your honor, we received a copy this morning and I have it in front of me.
Judge
Is there anything about that report that you would like to put on the record?
Donald Trump Attorney
Nothing other than the fact that it was. That some of the facts and procedural history, especially involving other cases, are not up to date because of what's happened since the date of the report. But otherwise, given what we expect is happening today, nothing.
Judge
Okay. Thank you.
Donald Trump Attorney
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Judge
People, is there anything about the probation report that you would like to put on the record?
Ema Bovey
No, judge. I'm just. Just need a couple more times.
Donald Trump Attorney
It.
Ema Bovey
Thank you, judge.
Judge
Sure.
Ema Bovey
I don't think there's anything that we need to put on the record about.
Judge
Okay, thank you. Impose sentence, please.
Ema Bovey
Donald Trump, you're before the court for.
Judge
Sentence following their conviction by trial to.
Ema Bovey
34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree.
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Before being sentenced, the court will allow.
Judge
You, your attorney and the assistant district.
Ema Bovey
Attorney an opportunity to adjust the court with any matters relevant to sentencing for the people. Thank you, judge. Where's the preferred place for me to standard?
Judge
Wherever you feel comfortable.
Ema Bovey
Okay. The defendant in this case, as you know, stands convicted of 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree, all class E felonies. Each carries a range of authorized sentencing options from as much as one and a third to four years in state prison to a variety of non incarceratory sentences. In this court's January 3rd decision on the defendant's Clayton motion, your honor indicated an inclination to impose an unconditional discharge. Under all the circumstances of this case, its unique posture, and the defendant's status as president elect, the people recommend a sentence of an unconditional discharge. In finding the defendant guilty in this case, the jury necessarily found unanimously that the defendant falsified 34 separate entries in his business records with the intent to defraud, which included an intent to commit or conceal a conspiracy to promote his own election by unlawful means. Having presided over the trial, your honor is very familiar with the conduct, its seriousness, and the overwhelming evidence to support the jury's verdict. I'm certainly not going to rehash that now. In last week's decision on January 3, this court referred to the graveman of the defendant's conduct, his criminal conduct in this case as constituting, quote, premeditated and continuous deception. The verdict was delivered by a jury that was carefully chosen, using an extensive questionnaire based on suggestions from both parties, and after thorough questioning of the prospective jurors by both sides, the verdict in this case was unanimous and decisive and it must be respected. As this court has observed, quote, the sanctity of a jury verdict and the deference that must be accorded to it is A bedrock principle in our nation's jurisprudence. The defendant's conduct before, during, and after this trial also merits consideration. Instead of preserving, protecting, and defending our constitutionally established system of criminal justice, the defendant, the once and future President of the United States, has engaged in a coordinated campaign to undermine its legitimacy. Far from expressing any kind of remorse for his criminal conduct, the defendant has purposefully bred disdain for our judicial institutions and the rule of law. And he's done this to serve his own ends and to encourage others to reject the jury verdict that he finds so distasteful. He has characterized these proceedings as. As corrupt, rigged, a witch hunt, or a sham too many times to tabulate. The defendant's rhetoric has only ratcheted up since this court's rulings on his motions to dismiss. He has been unrelenting in his unsubstantiated attacks upon this court and its family, individual prosecutors and their families, the witnesses, the grand jury, the trial jury, and the justice system as a whole. The defendant has not only been held in contempt by other jurors and other matters, but this court alone found the defendant in contempt for 10 distinct violations of the order restricting extrajudicial speech. In his legal filings, the defendant has used dangerous rhetoric in leveling accusations of intentionally unlawful and unconstitutional conduct on the part of this court and the prosecution. As this court has noted, the defendant's conduct, quote, constitutes a direct attack on the rule of law itself. Moreover, the defendant has publicly threatened to retaliate against the prosecutors who have sought to hold him accountable in this and other matters, and the courts who have endeavored to. To fairly and faithfully adjudicate these matters. Such threats are designed to have a chilling effect, to intimidate those who have the responsibility to enforce our laws in the hopes that they will ignore the defendant's transgressions because they fear that he is simply too powerful to be subjected to the same rule of law as the rest of us. In his 2024 end of year report, United States supreme court Chief Justice Roberts warned of the dangers of such conduct. Quote, public officials, too, regrettably, have engaged in recent attempts to intimidate judges, for example, suggesting political bias in the judge's adverse rulings without credible basis for such allegations, end quote. Chief Justice Robert continued, quote, attempts to intimidate judges for their rulings are inappropriate and should be vigorously opposed. Public officials certainly have a right to criticize the work of the judiciary, but they should be mindful that intemperance in their statements when it comes to judges may prompt dangerous Reactions by others. Chief Justice Roberts also spoke of the dangers of disinformation, which are, quote, magnified by social media, which provides a ready channel to instantly spread rumor and false information. Put simply, this defendant has caused enduring damage to public perception of the criminal justice system and has placed officers of the court in harm's way. In the probation report which we just received this morning, the author, having interviewed the defendant, noted that the defendant sees himself as above the law and won't accept responsibility for his actions. And that's certainly consistent with everything else that we've seen. Now, in a typical case, both the offense, conduct and these other exacerbating factors would impact the appropriate sentence. But in this case, we must be respectful of the office of the presidency and mindful of the fact that the defendant will be inaugurated as president in 10 days. Any undischarged portion of the sentence has the potential to interfere with the defendant's performance of the duties of his office. As a practical matter, the most sensible sentence prior to his inauguration is an unconditional discharge. The court has an has expressed an inclination to do exactly that because in the court's words, quote, the most viable solution to ensure finality and allow defendant to pursue his appellate options is to proceed to sentence. Now, as you know, in New York, a conditional discharge is authorized by penal law. Quote, if the court, having regard to the nature and circumstances of the offense and to the history, character and condition of the defendant, is of the opinion that neither the public interest nor the ends of justice would be served by a sentence of imprisonment and that probation supervision is not appropriate, an unconditional discharge is authorized. If a conditional discharge is authorized and, quote, if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release because these crimes are felonies, the court must set forth in the record the reasons for its action. The American public has the right to a presidency unencumbered by pending court proceedings or ongoing sentence related obligations. But imposing this sentence ensures that finality sentencing the defendant permits this court to enter judgment to cement the defendant's status as a convicted felon while he pursues whatever appeals he intends to pursue. And it gives full effect and respect to the jury's verdict while preserving the defendant's ability to govern. People therefore recommend that this court impose a sentence of an unconditional discharge. Thank you.
Judge
Thank you.
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Judge
Council.
Donald Trump Attorney
Thank you, your Honor, I very very much disagree with much of what the government just said about this case, about the legitimacy of what happened in this courtroom during the trial and about President Trump's conduct fighting this case from before it was indicted, while it was indicted, through the jury's verdict and even to this day what the government just said presupposes something that we disagree with very much, which was that this was an appropriate case to be brought. It was not. This case, without a doubt, knowing everything we know about the timing of the investigation, the fact that multiple prosecutors looked at the fact of this case, including prosecutors within the District Attorney's office in New York county, and made a decision not to bring charges. As the court knows, shortly after President Trump announced his intention to run for reelection, this case was started for what amounted to a third time. Which brings us ultimately to where we are today. A lot of what the government just said presupposes that this case is legally appropriate and that the charges that were brought by the people were consistent with the laws of New York. Again, we very much disagree with that. And, and as everybody has been noted, because it's true, we certainly intend on appealing that. And it's not, by the way, just counsel and President Trump that feels that way. There's many, many, many legal experts that share the same views that I just said, which is that legally, this case should not have been brought, both based on the facts that were established at trial and also on the legal basis for which they were brought. But it's also not just the legal experts, not just counsel, and not just President Trump. But the majority of the American people also agree that this case should not have been prod. The interesting thing about the fact that there was a trial, for the first time in our history, a criminal trial during an election season, is that the American voters got a chance to see and decide for themselves whether this is the kind of case that should have been brought. And they decided. And that's why, in 10 days, President Trump is going to assume the office of the presence of the United States. And certainly we're here for the court to sentence President Trump to an unconditional discharge. And for that, it's a very sad day. It's a sad day for President Trump and his family and friends. But it's also, in council's view, a sad day for this country because this was a case without a doubt, that was brought by a district attorney who promised that he would go after President Trump if elected and felt like he had to go through with that promise. And so that's sad. And I hope and I know that President Trump shares this view that this will never happen again in this country. And so we, we certainly understand where we are today. We very much intend on pursuing an appeal of this verdict and what happened during this investigation. And we certainly believe that the only appropriate sentence, if one's to be imposed at all, which we very much believe it shouldn't be, and that the case should be dismissed, is a sentence of an unconditional discharge. Thank you.
Judge
Thank you. Would your client like to be heard?
Donald Trump
Yes. Thank you. Your Honor, this has been a very terrible experience. I think it's been a tremendous setback for New York and the New York court system. This is a case that Alvin Bragg did not want to bring. He thought it was, from what I read and from what I heard, inappropriately handled. Before he got there, a gentleman from a law firm came in and acted as a district attorney. And that gentleman, from what I heard, was a criminal or almost criminal in what he did. It was very inappropriate. It was somebody involved with my political opponent. Part of the records that we're talking about, they're saying, I just noticed where he said I was falsifying business records. Well, the falsification of business records, as they said, was calling a legal expense in the books, where everybody could see them a legal expense. In other words, legal fees or legal expense were put down as legal expense by accountants. They weren't put down by me. They were put down by accountants. I didn't call them construction, concrete work. I didn't call them electrical work. I didn't call them any. They called a legal fee or a legal expense a legal expense. And for this, I got indicted. It's incredible, actually. Now, if you look, my attorney alluded to it, the top legal scholars and legal pundits in this country, the ones that are quoted all the time on television that are making their views felt and highly respected, people have said everyone, virtually everyone that I know, haven't seen any. To the contrary, not one. And these people are not exactly friends of mine, to put it mildly. But they all said this is a case that should have never been brought. It's an injustice of justice. Very respected. Jonathan Turley, Andy McCarthy, Judge David Rifkin, a wonderful man who just passed away, by the way. Greg Jarrett, Ellie Hoenig from cnn, of all places. CNN said that Paul Ingrassian, Alan Dershowitz, they all said, this is not a case that should be brought. It's not. Think about legal expenses are down as legal expenses, and. And I get indicted for business records. Everybody should be so accurate. It's been a political witch hunt. It was done to damage my reputation so that I'd lose the election. And obviously that didn't work. And the people of our country got to see this firsthand because they watched the case in your courtroom. They got to see this firsthand. And then they voted and I won and got the largest number of votes by far of any Republican candidate in history. And won, as you know, all seven swing states. Won conclusively. All seven swing states. And won the popularity, the popular vote by billions and millions of votes. And they've been watching your trial. So they understood it. I wasn't allowed to use the lawyer client privilege or the reliance on counsel. I had a lawyer that made this deal and he admitted that. And he was also a totally discredited person. We weren't allowed to use the information from the Southern District that totally discredited him and wasn't allowed to be put in. And that was terrible. Unbelievable. And this is a man who's got no standing. He's been disbarred on other matters unrelated. And he was allowed to talk as though he were George Washington. But he's not George Washington. He shouldn't have been allowed. The Southern District did a book of approximately 28 pages where they. I've never seen anything like it. They excoriated if you wouldn't let it be put into evidence. So he was able to testify as a witness. And I think it's a disgrace to the system. I was under a gag order. I'm the first president in history that was under a gag order where I couldn't talk about aspects of the case that are very important. I guess I'm still under. So probably I won't do it now. I assume I'm still under a gag order. But the fact is that I'm totally innocent. I did nothing wrong. They talk about business records, and the business records were extremely accurately counted. I had nothing to do with them. Any of that was done by an accountant or bookkeeper who I think gave very credible testimony and was corroborated by everybody that was asked. And with all that's happening in our country today, with a city that's burning to the ground, one of our largest, most important cities burning to the ground with wars that are uncontrollably going on, with all of the problems of inflation and attacks on countries and all of the horrible things that are going on. I got indicted over calling a legal expense a legal expense. It was called a legal expense. I just want to say I think it's an embarrassment to New York, and New York has a lot of problems, but this is a great embarrassment. I believe that this and other cases that was. Were brought. As you know, the DOJ is. DOJ is very much involved in this case. That's because that's the political opponent they're talking about, the doj, is very involved. You have a gentleman sitting right there from the DOJ, who was from the DOJ's office. He was also involved with the New York State State Attorney General's case. And he went from there to here. He went around and did what he had to do. He got them to move on me. But in the meantime, I won the election in a massive landslide. And the people of this country understand what's going on. This has been a weaponization of government. They call it lawfare. Never happened to any extent like this, but never happened in our country before. And I'd just like to explain that I was treated very, very unfairly. And I thank you very much.
Judge
Thank you, Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump, you appear before this court today to conclude this criminal proceeding by the imposition of sentence. Although I have taken the unusual step of informing you in advance of my inclinations before imposing sentence, I believe it is important for you, as well as those observing these proceedings, to understand my reasoning for the sentence I am about to impose. The imposition of sentence is one of the most difficult and significant decisions that any criminal court judge is called upon to make. Our legislature sets the parameters for an authorized sentence, but it is a judge that must decide what constitutes a just conclusion to a verdict of guilty. A court is vested with broad discretion in determining what sources or evidence it may consider to arrive at an appropriate sentence. In doing so, the court must consider the facts of the case, along with any aggravating or mitigating circumstances. In my time on the bench, I've been called upon to grapple with this weighty responsibility for countless defendants who have been found guilty after trial for an assortment of offenses ranging from non violent class E felonies to the most heinous of crimes, including homicides, sex trafficking and child sexual abuse. The task is always difficult and deserving of careful consideration, whether the sentence be an unconditional discharge or incarceration of 25 years to life. However, never before has this court been presented with such a unique and remarkable set of circumstances. Indeed, it can be viewed fairly that this has been a truly extraordinary case. There was unprecedented media attention, public interest, and heightened security involving various agencies. And yet the trial was a bit of a paradox because once the courtroom doors were closed, the trial itself was no more special, unique or extraordinary than the other 32 criminal trials that took place in this courthouse at the same exact time jury selection was conducted, the same rules of evidence were followed, opening statements were made, witnesses called and cross examined evidence presented, summations delivered, the same burden of proof was applied and a jury made up of ordinary citizens delivered a verdict. And it was all conducted pursuant to the rules of procedure and guided by the law. Of course, part of what made it feel somewhat ordinary was the outstanding work, preparation and professionalism of the clerks, court officers, court reporters, security personnel, and the entire staff of this building who did their jobs as they would with any other criminal trial. So while one can argue that the trial itself was in many respects somewhat ordinary, the same cannot be said about the circumstances surrounding this sentencing. And that is because of the office you once occupied and which you will soon occupy again. To be sure, it is the legal protections afforded to the Office of the President of the United States that are extraordinary, not the occupant of the Office. The legal protections, especially within the context of a criminal prosecution afforded to the Office of the President have been laid out by our Founders, the Constitution, and most recently interpreted by the United States Supreme Court in the matter of Trump versus the United States, which was decided on July 1, 2024. As with every other defendant in your position, it is my obligation to consider any and all aggravating and mitigating factors to inform my decision. Some of those aggravating factors have already been articulated in my Sandoval ruling at the start of this trial and by my recent written decisions on December 16 and January 3. Thus, they need not be repeated at this time. However, the considerable, indeed extraordinary, legal protections afforded by the Office of the Chief Executive is a factor that overrides all others. To be clear, the protections afforded the Office of the President are not a mitigating factor. They do not reduce the seriousness of the crime or justify its commission in any way. The protections are, however, a legal mandate which, pursuant to the rule of law, this Court must respect and follow. However, despite the extraordinary breadth of those protections, one power they do not provide is the power to erase a jury verdict. It is clear from legal president, which until July 1 was scarce, that Donald Trump, the ordinary citizen, Donald Trump the criminal defendant, would not be entitled to such considerable protections. I'm referring to protections that extend well beyond those afforded the average defendant who winds their way through the criminal justice system each day. No ordinary citizens do not receive those legal protections. It is the Office of the President that bestows those far reaching protections to the office holder, and it was the citizenry of this nation that recently decided that you should once again receive the benefits of those protections, which include, among other things, the Supremacy Clause and Presidential immunity. It is through that lens and that reality that this court must determine a lawful sentence. After careful analysis, in obedience to governing mandates and pursuant to the rule of law, this court has determined that the only lawful sentence that permits entry of a judgment of conviction without encroaching upon the highest office in the land is an unconditional discharge, which the New York State Legislature has determined is a lawful and permissible sentence for the crime of falsifying business records in the first degree. Therefore, at this time, I impose that sentence to cover all 34 counts. Sir, I wish you Godspeed as you assume the second term in office.
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Main Justice Podcast Episode Summary
Episode: Full Audio of Donald Trump's NY Sentencing
Release Date: January 13, 2025
Host/Authors: Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord
Description:
Main Justice delves into the intricacies of legal proceedings surrounding high-profile cases. In this episode, hosts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord present a comprehensive analysis of Donald Trump's sentencing in New York, leveraging their deep experience within the Department of Justice to elucidate the implications for the legal system and American democracy.
The episode begins with a direct dive into the courtroom proceedings of Donald Trump's sentencing in New York. The hosts emphasize the significance of this moment, highlighting its potential impact on the legal landscape and the integrity of democratic institutions.
Donald Trump stands convicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree, classified as Class E felonies. These charges stem from allegations that Trump manipulated business entries to defraud and conceal a conspiracy aimed at promoting his election bid unlawfully.
Notable Quote:
"The jury necessarily found unanimously that the defendant falsified 34 separate entries in his business records with the intent to defraud."
– Prosecutor Ema Bovey (06:03)
The courtroom session begins with procedural formalities. Trump appears via video conference from Florida, while his attorney, Ema Bovey, is present in the courtroom.
Judge's Initial Remarks:
"Good morning, people."
– Judge (01:14)
Prosecutor Ema Bovey presents the case for an unconditional discharge, citing Trump's imminent inauguration as President and the necessity to avoid interference with his presidential duties.
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
"The defendant’s conduct constitutes a direct attack on the rule of law itself."
– Prosecutor Ema Bovey (11:15)
"Such threats are designed to have a chilling effect, to intimidate those who have the responsibility to enforce our laws."
– Prosecutor Ema Bovey (11:45)
Trump's defense team vehemently opposes the government's characterization of the case, arguing that the charges are politically motivated and legally unfounded.
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
"We very much intend on pursuing an appeal of this verdict and what happened during this investigation."
– Trump's Attorney (18:06)
"This has been a weaponization of government. They call it lawfare."
– Donald Trump (22:17)
Donald Trump addresses the court, reiterating his innocence and criticizing the judicial process. He contends that the charges were fabricated and emphasizes his legal expenses were accurately recorded.
Notable Quotes:
"I did nothing wrong. They talk about business records, and the business records were extremely accurately counted."
– Donald Trump (22:17)
"It's been a political witch hunt. It was done to damage my reputation so that I'd lose the election."
– Donald Trump (22:17)
The judge concludes the sentencing, balancing the unique circumstances of Trump's case with the need to uphold judicial integrity.
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
"The only lawful sentence that permits entry of a judgment of conviction without encroaching upon the highest office in the land is an unconditional discharge."
– Judge (28:34)
"This court must determine a lawful sentence. After careful analysis... I impose that sentence to cover all 34 counts."
– Judge (28:34)
"Sir, I wish you Godspeed as you assume the second term in office."
– Judge (28:34)
The episode underscores the delicate intersection between high-profile legal cases and the functioning of democratic institutions. Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord provide insightful commentary on the implications of the sentencing, reflecting on the balance between legal accountability and the preservation of presidential authority.
Final Thoughts from Hosts:
While not directly quoted in the transcript, the hosts likely discuss the broader significance of the case, analyzing the judge's reasoning for an unconditional discharge and its impact on future legal proceedings involving elected officials.
Prosecutor Ema Bovey (06:03):
"The jury necessarily found unanimously that the defendant falsified 34 separate entries in his business records with the intent to defraud."
Prosecutor Ema Bovey (11:15):
"The defendant’s conduct constitutes a direct attack on the rule of law itself."
Prosecutor Ema Bovey (11:45):
"Such threats are designed to have a chilling effect, to intimidate those who have the responsibility to enforce our laws."
Trump's Attorney (18:06):
"We very much intend on pursuing an appeal of this verdict and what happened during this investigation."
Donald Trump (22:17):
"I did nothing wrong. They talk about business records, and the business records were extremely accurately counted."
Donald Trump (22:17):
"It's been a political witch hunt. It was done to damage my reputation so that I'd lose the election."
Judge (28:34):
"The only lawful sentence that permits entry of a judgment of conviction without encroaching upon the highest office in the land is an unconditional discharge."
Judge (28:34):
"Sir, I wish you Godspeed as you assume the second term in office."
The sentencing of Donald Trump marks a pivotal moment in American legal and political history. By opting for an unconditional discharge, the judge navigates the complex terrain of enforcing judicial rulings while respecting the constitutional protections afforded to the Presidency.
Key Insights:
Rule of Law vs. Executive Function: The decision highlights the judiciary's role in maintaining legal standards without impinging on the executive branch's functionality.
Judicial Independence: The case underscores the importance of an independent judiciary, capable of making impartial decisions even under immense public and political pressure.
Public Perception: Trump's public declarations and the high-profile nature of the case reflect the deep divisions within American society regarding accountability and justice.
Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord likely emphasize these points, offering listeners a nuanced understanding of the case's broader ramifications for democracy and the legal system.
Conclusion
This episode of Main Justice provides an in-depth examination of the unprecedented sentencing of Donald Trump in New York. Through meticulous analysis, the hosts shed light on the delicate balance between upholding the rule of law and ensuring the seamless operation of presidential duties. The discussions offer listeners critical insights into the interplay between legal accountability and constitutional safeguards in one of the most significant political landscapes of recent history.