What does it actually look like to lead through relationships?

In this episode of Manager to Manager, Kamaria talks with Bob Schon, a sales director whose path from ministry into corporate leadership has shaped how he shows up as a people leader.

Bob describes himself as a relational leader, and as you listen, you’ll hear what that really means in practice. Not avoiding accountability, but choosing to lead through influence, curiosity, and connection whenever possible.

He shares stories about the moments that shaped his approach, including what it felt like to be on the receiving end of directive leadership, and why he made a conscious decision to do things differently.

In this conversation, we explore:

• Why relationships often unlock more effort than authority
• How optimism shows up in everyday leadership moments
• What it looks like to lead through questions, not just answers
• The role of passion and purpose in how people show up to work
• How trust makes difficult conversations more productive

Bob also shares the idea of a “magnetic personality” — the kind of presence that makes people feel better when you walk into the room — and how he’s working to build that across his team.

If you’ve ever thought about how to bring more connection into your leadership, while still holding expectations and driving results, this episode offers a clear, real-world example of what that can look like.

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