Eric (Senior Pastor) (6:55)
Thank you, Mariners Church, for being the kind of church that you are. We're going to continue to find ways to love all the cities in Southern California and the people in those cities. One more thing I want to mention before I jump into our message today. When you came in, you were handed this little pamphlet, this little guide. Some of you have asked you. You are new to our church. Perhaps you came at Christmas or in the last several months and you've asked a great question we, which is how can I get plugged in? How can I get connected? The reason it's a great question is we don't want you just to attend church. We want you to be in community. We believe that's what God wants for you as well. And the best place for you to start is rooted. It's a 10 week journey. You'll be placed with a group of people, similar stage of life to you, and we will match you with that group and you'll do this Bible study together for 10 weeks. It's how you're gonna learn what our church is all about. It will also help you connect to God and to your purpose. So we Rooted is the place for you to begin. You can sign up on the patio. We have a big group station on the patio this weekend. But also, if you're looking at this guide here, we have other courses and groups that are starting as well. And I encourage you to get plugged in. Okay. We're in week two of a teaching series called on the Table. We're putting big Questions that people ask about the Christian faith on the table, and we're not shying away from them at all. This week's question is super important, not only for this life, but for everlasting life. And it is. Aren't all religions essentially the same? People often say that. In fact, not several months ago, the Pope was speaking at a conference in Singapore. A lot of world religious leaders were there, and he made this statement, which caused many Catholics and Protestants alike to be confused and upset by what he said, because it violates what they thought we believed, which is that Jesus is the only way. Because the Pope said this at a conference. He said, there's only one God, and each of us has a language to arrive at God. Some are Sikh, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, and they are different paths to God. We are all sons and daughters of God. So essentially it was articulating in this statement anyway, that it's all essentially the same, just different paths to God. The Pope was articulating what many Americans, in fact the majority of Americans, believe. According to BARN research, more than half of all Americans agree with the statement, many religions can lead to eternal life. There's no one true religion. Aren't all religions the same? When the question is asked, likely someone has told you this illustration. It's kind of like this. There's a mountain, God's at top of the mountain, and there's just different ways up the mountain. Some take the Muslim way, some take the Christian way, some the Jewish way, some the Hindu way, some the Buddhist way, and some who don't even have a religion, they're just trying to be a better person. They take the do good way. But eventually we all get to the same place. That's what people often say. And it can sound humble and inclusive. It can sound humble, as if to say, hey, listen, I don't have all the answers. And inclusive. Like, doesn't everybody want everyone to make it up the path? But imagine you're at the conference where the Pope was speaking. Do you really view that statement as humble and inclusive? If you're the Buddhist who's at the conference and you hear the Pope say there's one God. Well, the Buddhist does not believe there's a God at top of a mountain. The Buddhist would disagree with the statement. The Buddhist does not believe there's a God at the top of the mountain. The Hindu believes there's millions of gods at the top of the mountain. Not one, but millions. The Muslim would agree with part of the Pope's statement. The Muslim would say, yes, there is One God at the top of the mountain, but that God is not a father. The Pope said that the one God at the top of the mountain were all sons and daughters. Because for the Muslim, there's 99 names for Allah in the Quran and not one of them is father. And so the thinking people at the conference when that statement was made would not say, that is a well researched statement. They would view that as a misinformation, informed one. They would not also view that as a humble statement, but really a prideful statement, essentially that you know my religion better than I do and you some kind of way sit above all of them and are able to pull all of them and make them the same. It would not be viewed as a humble statement. Aren't all religions the same? It's really that statement only made about religions. No one makes that kind of statement calling things that are different the same same about anything else. No one says that about economic viewpoints, you know, socialism and capitalism. I know they look different, but they're really the same. No one says that or about governmental structures. No one says, you know, monarchy and democracy. I know on the outside they look different, but in the end they're really the same. They're not the same. No one says it about sports teams that we root for earlier or late. Last year, I got to go with K to the Dodgers game when they clinched the trip to the World Series. It was awesome. We were celebrating and we were surrounded by rabid Dodgers fans. And if in that moment we had yelled, yeah, come on, let's go Giants. Woo. Yeah. Nobody around us would have thought, oh, that is so sweet. They're rooting for the same team as usual. Deep down, I know it sounds different, but it's really the same. No, these fans were deeply rabid Dodger fans. They would have booed us or had us removed. This statement is only ever said about religion. And so really, all of the world religious leaders, they wouldn't agree with the statement there's not one mountain. If you really wanted to keep this illustration, this metaphor, you would have to say there's lots of different mountains because there's different things at the top of the mountain and different ways to get to the top of the mountain. So let me introduce you real quickly to the world's view of mountains. So we'll start with Buddhism. When I was pastoring in Miami, there was a guy in our church who came to me one day and said, man, I need some help. I got a friend at work and he's been asking all Kinds of questions. He's been studying Buddhism and he's got some questions. I said, wait a second, what'd you say he's studying? I said, do you mean Buddhism? He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I mean. Okay, good. Because that's two different things. That's two completely different things. Buddhism, that's week four of on the table. That's week four. But this is week two. This is week two. Buddhism. All right, so the top of the ladder, or the top. I don't have mountains that have ladders. The top of the ladder is Buddhism, is Nirvana. You've heard the phrase nirvana. It means to basically no longer existing because existence is filled with suffering. We're living that right now in Southern California. There's suffering in existence. And so the top of the ladder in the Buddhist faith is not God. There is no God. It's separation from suffering. And also, nirvana means that you no longer have unfulfilled desires. Srinivana. No more suffering, no more unfulfilled desires. But to get to the top, it is called an Eightfold path. In Buddhism. It's right understanding, right thought, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration. And before you think, oh, sweet, I can pull all of that off and get to the top, realize that in the Buddhist faith, it takes more than one life to get to the top. You have to do this through multiple lives. That's why there's reincarnation. To work your way all the way to the top of the ladder. Hindu faith, very similar in that they believe in reincarnation, but different in that at the top of the ladder is actually millions of gods who will give you instruction and you can pray to, and they'll help you go up the ladder. But. And there's a fourfold path in Hinduism, and it's a really challenging path. The first, the bottom rung is moral duty, and that's being a moral, dutiful person in your caste, in your lot in life. And if you do it well this time, you get reincarnated, perhaps to a higher caste next time. But if you're currently in the outcast of society, which I've met many people in India who are the next rung in the ladder sounds very daunting. It is prosperity and success. So imagine being a Hindu in India who's an outcast, who has no idea how you're going to eat tomorrow, that you got to work your way up to prosperity. And that's just the second rung. And then there's pleasure within your caste. And then there's liberation, which is liberation from the cycle of reincarnation. And you're one with the universe. That's the Hindu faith. And then there's Islam. Many of us have friends who are Muslim. And there's five pillars for every good Muslim. Five pillars of Islam. The first, the ground you have to have faith in Allah and in Muhammad is prophetic. And then there's things that all Muslims must do. Pray five times a day, give a percentage of your income, fast during Ramadan, make pilgrimage to Mecca. You have to pull all of these things to get to the top of the ladder. When you get to the top of the ladder is earning everlasting life. Allah is actually not in everlasting life. He transcends everlasting life. But you, if you climb the ladder successfully, can get to everlasting life. At our Thursday night young adult service, we had some friends from the Middle east who were here.