Podcast Summary
Podcast: Mariners Church Weekend Messages
Episode: January 26 - Why Does God Care Who I Sleep With?
Speaker: Eric Geiger
Release Date: January 28, 2025
Overview
In this episode, Senior Pastor Eric Geiger tackles the provocative question: “Why does God care who I sleep with?” Framing the issue around both historical and scriptural contexts, Geiger explores how sexual boundaries introduced by Christianity brought about significant cultural shifts, contrasts this to the boundary-removing “sexual revolution” of the 1960s, and draws out the biblical vision for sex as an act of holistic union. Drawing on academic works, personal anecdotes, and biblical passages, the message considers not just what Christian sexual ethics are but also why they matter — emotionally, relationally, and spiritually — emphasizing God’s deep care for human flourishing.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Two Sexual Revolutions (00:27–08:25)
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First Sexual Revolution:
- Occurred in the Greco-Roman world, where sexual relationships were largely exploitative; men commonly had wives for social status, mistresses for intimacy, and used slaves for pleasure.
- Christianity introduced the concepts of consent, mutual respect, monogamy, and the equal value of women as image-bearers of God.
- Quoting historians like Rodney Stark and Kyle Harper, Geiger notes that Christian boundaries fostered flourishing, especially for women and children.
- Quote:
“Women were highly esteemed in the early church. They weren’t property. They’re the partner of the husband, was the Christian sexual ethic.” — Eric Geiger (
03:20)
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Second Sexual Revolution:
- The 1960s removed boundaries, promoting “free love” and sexual liberation.
- Contraception and individualism empowered people to pursue immediate desires.
- Yet, new research and testimonies (Miriam Grossman, Louise Perry, Mary Ebstad, Mark Regeneras) highlight increased relational distress, especially for women and children, as a result.
- Quote:
“There is no condom for the heart.” — Miriam Grossman (cited by Geiger,
07:10)
“We have transitioned from one form of feminine subservience to another, but we pretend this one is liberation.” — Louise Perry (cited by Geiger,08:00)
2. The Role of Boundaries in Sexual Ethics (08:25–13:00)
- Culture’s primary boundary now is consent: “as long as no one is hurt or there is consent, anything goes.”
- Geiger challenges whether this is adequate, referencing Jonathan Haidt’s illustration about boundaries (“the chicken story”).
- Uses the metaphor of fire: both can bless or damage depending on boundaries.
- Quote:
“What is the difference between fire that blesses and fire that damages? Boundaries. And what is the difference between sex that blesses and sex that damages? Boundaries.” — Eric Geiger (
12:10)
3. Biblical Vision for Sex — Oneness (13:00–20:00)
- Genesis 2 presents sex as oneness: “a man leaves his father and mother, and bonds with his wife, and they become one flesh. Both... were naked, yet they felt no shame.”
- The biblical order: leave (become an adult), commit (marry), then unite physically (sex).
- Sex is more than procreation or pleasure; it’s for total union.
- Cites research that married, church-attending couples report more frequent and satisfying sex than those pursuing “sexual abundance.”
- Quote:
“If you want to have better sex, according to the research, young men, here’s what you do: you love Jesus, you pursue Him, and then you find a wife... [and] you have great sex with that woman for the rest of your life.” — Eric Geiger (
17:40)
4. Paul’s Teaching to the Corinthians: Sex as Union (20:00–26:30)
- In 1 Corinthians 6, Paul writes to people from a hypersexualized culture (Corinth) arguing that sex is not “just physical,” but creates union.
- Sex outside God’s boundaries, specifically outside marriage, is a sin “against your own body.”
- Geiger draws a distinction between physical and sexual harm; the latter causes longer-lasting wounding due to sex’s deeper significance.
- Quote:
“Sexual immorality is a sin against God and against people, just like every sin is. But Paul says sexual immorality is a sin against you. It hurts you.” — Eric Geiger (
22:35)
5. The Offensiveness and Significance of Christian Sexual Boundaries (26:30–32:00)
- Acknowledges this teaching as culturally offensive, especially regarding same-sex attraction or pre-marital relationships.
- Emphasizes that boundaries only make sense when you grasp their purpose (“Do not remove a fence until you understand why it was put there.” — G.K. Chesterton).
- God’s sexual boundary is not arbitrary but rooted in care for personal integrity, wholeness, and faithfulness.
- Quote:
“If someone asks you for your body before they are willing to give their whole self to you, don’t give them your body.” — Eric Geiger (
29:05)
6. Sex Points to a Greater Union — Metaphor of Christ and Church (32:00–35:10)
- Human marriage and sexual union are metaphors for the unifying relationship between Christ and believers.
- The storyline of scripture: begins with a wedding (Genesis), ends with a wedding (Revelation 19, the Marriage Supper of the Lamb) — symbolizing union, no shame, complete acceptance.
- Even those who remain single embody in reality the deeper fulfillment of union with Christ.
- Quote:
“You already have the ultimate reality... that you are united with the one who satisfies the deepest longings of your soul, the one who is your Savior, the one who is the everlasting King.” — Eric Geiger (
34:45)
Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes
- On Boundaries’ Purpose:
“The boundaries actually brought flourishing for women and for children and for society.” (
05:25) - On the Limitation of Consent as a Boundary:
“Can you consider that you need a stronger boundary than just consent, that you need a stronger boundary than just as long as no one is hurt?” (
11:05) - On the Deeper Impact of Sexual Sin:
“Whenever someone is sexually abused, they don’t just move on. For some, they carry that with them for the rest of their life.” (
23:25) - On Christian Identity & Honor:
“You are not merely an animal. You are an image bearer of God... If you’re a Christian, the Spirit of the living God lives within you. So honor God with your body.” (
28:00) - On the Meaning Beyond Marriage:
“Even if you don’t get married or married again in this life... you already have the glorious reality that you are united with the one who satisfies the deepest longings of your soul.” (
34:30)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Introduction to Revolutions:
00:27 - Cultural Impact of Christian Ethics:
03:20 - Modern Sexual Revolution Critique:
07:10 - Boundaries and Consent:
08:25 - Fire as a Metaphor:
12:10 - Genesis and Oneness:
13:00 - Research: Marital Sex vs. Culture:
17:40 - Paul, Corinth, and Body Theology:
22:35 - Addressing Offensiveness:
26:30 - Chesterton on Fences/Boundaries:
29:35 - Christ and the Greater Union:
32:00 - Ultimate Fulfillment in Jesus — Not Marriage:
34:30
Tone and Final Thoughts
Eric Geiger speaks with both conviction and compassion throughout the episode, acknowledging the emotional difficulty and personal cost this teaching can entail in the current cultural climate. He offers hope, pointing listeners toward God’s grace for past mistakes, and the ultimate dignity and fulfillment found in joining one’s life to Christ.
Closing prayer and benediction reinforce God’s gentleness and mercy, encouraging the community to walk in forgiveness and joy, regardless of their relational status or past.
