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11/12/25 - Understanding the Cult of Political Hatred

Mark Levin Podcast

Thu Nov 13 2025

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Mark Levin Podcast – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Understanding the Cult of Political Hatred
Release Date: November 13, 2025
Host: Mark Levin
Notable Guests: Governor Greg Abbott (TX), Professor John Ellis (UC Santa Cruz)

Overview

In this episode, Mark Levin delves into the roots and dangers of what he calls "the cult of political hatred." Drawing on historical philosophers and his own writings, Levin examines how mass movements—both on the far left and right—breed fanaticism, suppress individuality, and foster societal division. He offers a stark warning about the manipulative power of propaganda in both traditional and new media, calls out influencers and podcasters for fueling hatred and misinformation, and advocates for confronting these trends head-on. In addition to the main theme, the episode includes in-depth discussions on current political scandals, the role of universities in indoctrination, policy debates, and a feature interview with Texas Governor Greg Abbott on state policy and combating extremism.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mass Movements & The Loss of Individuality

Levin reads from and expands on Chapter Two of his book American Marxism, discussing how mass political movements devour individual identity and enforce conformity.
Cites philosophers such as Julian Benda, Eric Hoffer, and Hannah Arendt on the psychology and mechanism of mass fanaticism:
- Mass movements offer a sense of purpose to the disaffected by channeling their frustrations into collective action, often aimed at societal destruction.
- "Mass movements attempt to devour the individual in two ways: consume his identity... and assign him a group identity based on race, age, income, etc." (Levin, 01:47)
The cult-like aspect of these movements is reinforced through digital connectivity, strengthening group hatred (see: podcasting, internet echo chambers).

2. The Pathology of Fanaticism & Political Hatred

Discusses how both far-left (Marxists, Islamists) and far-right (Fascists, Neo-Nazis, certain influencers) movements rely on sowing division and hatred.
Quotes Eric Hoffer: “A fanatic cannot be weaned away from his cause by an appeal to his reason or moral sense.” (Levin quoting Hoffer, 10:35)
Critiques influencers (naming Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Alex Jones, Nick Fuentes, Megyn Kelly) for exploiting disaffected individuals through propaganda.

3. Power, Propaganda, and Language

Levin explains the deliberate use of propaganda and manipulative language to exert negative power over society:
- "Propaganda is the reasoned use of historical and scientific arguments to indoctrinate. Not to educate, but to indoctrinate." (Levin, 22:50)
- Critiques new media personas and podcasters as "masters of manipulation" focused on societal destabilization.

4. Recent Political Scandals & Media Manipulation

Dissects the Epstein-Trump controversy, strongly refuting allegations against Trump regarding Virginia Giuffre:
- “She denied that Donald Trump flirted with her, had sex with her, or was involved in sexual encounters with any girls who were in Epstein’s network.” (Levin, 38:47)
- Asserts Democrats and some Republicans are weaponizing unsubstantiated claims to create scandal and distract from their own failings.
"They're making a fortune—lying to you, deceiving you, manipulating you about the most basic things." (Levin, 28:11)

5. Divisions Within the Political Landscape

Discusses the government shutdown, the partisan blame game, and the strategic use of procedural tools in Congress.
Strongly criticizes Democratic leadership for the shutdown and subsequent attempts to shift blame.

6. The Marxist-Islamist Fusion and Domestic Politics

Cites the victory of Zoran Mandami in NYC as emblematic of the “Marxist Islamist fusion,” with activist groups like CAIR celebrating his win as a blow against the US establishment.
Warns against the normalization of anti-American, anti-Semitic, and pro-terrorist rhetoric in mainstream U.S. politics.

7. Interview with Governor Greg Abbott (TX)

Important segment: [53:42–63:24]

Abbott describes Texas' proactive legislation against the establishment of religious "no-go zones" and enforcement of state law over Sharia.
- “Texas law, Texas courts are the only law that governs our residents, our businesses, our neighborhoods.” (Abbott, 55:15)
Discusses Texas’ border policy, new property tax reform initiatives, and the importance of enforcing state sovereignty against federal overreach.
Receives and appreciates Mark Levin’s on-air endorsement for reelection.

8. Higher Education as a Hotbed of Ideological Indoctrination

Key segment with Professor John Ellis: [84:26–91:40]

Professor Ellis argues that public universities have severely strayed from their mission by engaging in ideological indoctrination.
- Advocates for placing failing universities into receivership to “clean house” the way failing businesses are rescued.
- “A group of radical political activists have decided they’re going to take over the universities, use them for their own purposes, and forget about the business of bringing students up to speed with the current state of knowledge.” (Ellis, 89:30)

9. Listener Q&A: Economic Policy and Youth Disaffection

Levin debates callers on whether young Americans are more disadvantaged today, challenging the narrative that “the system” is rigged against youth. Encourages personal responsibility and hard work.
- “You gotta fight, you gotta work. You can’t expect government to take care of it because government’s not.” (Levin, 108:00)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“Mass movements attempt to devour the individual in two ways: consume his identity... and assign him a group identity... Thereby stampeding them in one direction or another to collapse the existing society or rule over the new one.”
— Mark Levin (01:47)
"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus, people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives, try to find a new content by dedicating themselves to a 'holy cause.'"
— Quoting Hoffer, read by Levin (12:42)
“The fanatic cannot be weaned away from his cause by an appeal to his reason or moral sense.”
— Quoting Hoffer, read by Levin (10:35)
“Propaganda is the reasoned use of historical and scientific arguments to indoctrinate. Not to educate, but to indoctrinate.”
— Mark Levin (22:50)
“Podcasters are good at manipulating language. They're masters of fear-mongering and orchestrated deceit.”
— Mark Levin (23:15)
“Texas law, Texas courts are the only law that governs our residents, our businesses, our neighborhoods.”
— Gov. Greg Abbott (55:15)
“A group of radical political activists have decided they’re going to take over the universities, use them for their own purposes, and forget about the business of bringing students up to speed with... knowledge.”
— Prof. John Ellis (89:30)

Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | |-------------|----------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:57 | Mark Levin begins on mass movements and loss of individuality | | 10:35 | Reading from Hoffer on fanaticism | | 20:12 | On the dangers of “breeding mobs” and political identity | | 22:50 | Propaganda, manipulation of language | | 38:47 | Detailed refutation of Trump-Epstein allegations | | 53:42–63:24 | Interview: Gov. Greg Abbott on Texas policy & extremism | | 84:26–91:40 | Interview: Prof. John Ellis on university indoctrination | | 107:00 | Levin challenges young callers on hard work vs. handouts |

Tone & Language

Passionate, combative, urgent. Levin speaks with conviction, urgency, and derision toward what he views as ideological adversaries—both on the far left and elements of the "neo-Nazi right."
Direct and unfiltered. He frequently calls out public figures by name, both criticizing and praising, and uses rhetorical questions to engage and challenge listeners.
Mentoring and admonishing. Especially clear in his exchanges with young callers, calling for resilience and personal initiative over reliance on government.

Conclusion

This episode offers a thorough, impassioned diagnosis of the threat posed by mass political movements and the central role of propaganda, both online and in educational institutions. Mark Levin uses both historical perspective and present-day examples to warn of the dangers of losing individuality, the manipulative role of certain media personas, and the need for decisive confrontation of these trends by conservative Americans. The interviews and political commentary supplement the main theme, particularly the focus on reforming policy and institutions to guard against extremism and societal decay.

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Transcript

Mark Levin (0:00)

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Producer (0:22)

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Mark Levin (0:57)

Sam hello America. Mark Levin here. Our number, 877-381-38118. We're going to move fast here. I've encouraged you to take a look at my book American Marxism from four years ago to get a feel for what's taking place today. It's actually quite prescient, but it's not hard to be prescient when you're looking at Marxism or fascism or those things because the world has experienced them. The question is here we've not experienced them. And in chapter two I talk about breeding mobs. Now, even though I'm writing about American Marxism, as you'll see, it would apply to any kind of ism that is totalitarian in nature. This is chapter two, Breeding Mobs. Many of you have the book Mass movements tend to devour the individual in two ways. Now I want you to be thinking of Mandami, Bernie Sanders, you know, aoc, Marxism, Islamism. I also want you to be thinking of the fascists and neo fascists who I've been exposing as thoroughly as possible. I want you to be thinking about Fuentes and Bannon, Alex Jones and Tucker, their supporters who give them a free ride, the Megyn Kelly's of the world and those people. Mass movements attempt to devour the individual in two ways, consume his identity and uniqueness, thereby making him indistinguishable from the masses, but also assigning him a group identity based on race, age, income, etc. To draw class distinctions. This way the demagogues and propagandists can speak to the well being of the people as a whole, while dividing them against themselves, thereby stampeding them in one direction or another as necessary to collapse the existing society or rule over the new one. And who among us is attracted to such mass movements? Again, I noted in my prior book Meritopia, a receptive audience is found among the societies. Disenchanted, disaffected dissatisfied and maladjusted, who are unwilling, are unable to assume responsibility for their own real or perceived conditions, but instead blame their surroundings, the system and others. They are lured by the false hopes and promises of utopian transformation. And the criticisms of the existing society to which their connection is tentative are non existent. Improving the malcontent slot becomes linked to the utopian cause. Moreover, disparaging and diminishing the successful and accomplished becomes an essential tactic. No one should be better than anyone else, regardless of the merits or value of his contribution. And by exploiting human frailties, frustrations, jealousies and inequities, a sense of meaning and self worth is created in the malcontents otherwise unhappy and directionless life. As you can see, this applies to the Marxists and the fascists. Furthermore, in mass movements, the individual is inconsequential as a person, useful only as an insignificant part of an amalgamation of insignificant parts. He is a worker, part of a mass, nothing more, nothing less. His existence is soulless. Absolute obedience is the highest virtue. After all, only an army of drones is capable of building a rainbow to paradise. Almost a century ago, French philosopher and essayist Julian Bender observed that mass movements form frequently around individuals who share the same political hatred. Got that? The same political hatred, he wrote, thanks to the progress of communication and still more to the group spirit, it's clear that the holders of the same political hatred now form a compact, impassioned mass, every individual of which feels himself in touch with the infinite numbers of others. Whereas a century ago such people were comparatively out of touch with each other and. And hated in a scattered way. I've been talking about the podcasting and the Internet, ladies and gentlemen, and the dangers it poses. There's simply no question about that, he said. Be asserted that these coherences will tend to develop still further for the world. A group is one of the most profound characteristics of the modern world, wrote this a hundred years ago, which even in the most unexpected domains, for instance, the domain of thought is more and more becoming the world of leagues, of unions and of groups. It is necessary to say that the passion of the individual is strengthened by the feeling itself. In proximity to these thousands of similar passions, the individual bestows a mystic personality on the association of which he feels himself a member, and gives it a religious adoration, which is simply the deification of his own passion and no small stimulants to its intensity. That's genius, don't you think, Mr. Producer? Bender also concluded that such movements, because that's what's Going on today, right now. Bend also concluded that such movements are often cult like he wrote. The coherence just described might be called a surface coherence, but there is added to it a coherence of essence. For the very reason that the holders of the same political passion form a more compact, impassioned group. They also form a more homogeneous, impassioned group which the individual ways of feeling disappear. The zeal of each member more and more takes on the color of the others. And so you see this Jew hatred, you see this Christian hatred, you see this, this American hatred. And it builds on it, and builds on it. It builds on itself. Absolute brilliance. But let's go on. I wrote nearly a decade ago that these mass movements, that is, I wrote, that are intolerant of diversity, uniqueness, debate for their purpose requires a singular focus. There can be no competing voices or causes slowing or obstructing society's righteous march. They rely on deceit, propaganda, dependence, intimidation and force. And I go on in that regard. Let me continue. I'm not going to read the whole chapter, but I think it's very, very important. If you have the book, just dust it off. Seventy years ago, Eric Hoffer wrote an iconic book, the True Believer. And I even mentioned him in My First Liberty and Tyranny. On the Nature of Mass Movements. Hoffer explained that mass movements are built of deeply flawed individuals with deeply flawed ideas. He noted that quote, a mass movement attracts and holds a following not because it can satisfy the desire for self advancement, but because it can satisfy the passion for self renunciation. People who see their lives as irredeemably spoiled cannot find a worthwhile purpose in self advancement. They look on self interest as something tainted and evil, something unclean and unlucky. Anything undertaken under the auspices of the self seems to them foredoomed. Nothing that has its roots and reasons in the self can be good and noble. Moreover, most mass movements I write are angry and gloomy movements, hostile toward well adjusted, happy, successful individuals, among others. Indeed, I write later, there is a kind of psychotic pleasure and excitement in wrecking the present day society, including, if not especially, one as free, humane, tolerant and virtuous as ours. Let's see what surprises one when listening to the frustrated as they decry the present. And all it works, writes Hoffer, is the enormous joy they derive from doing so. Such delight cannot come from the mere venting of a grievance. By expatiating upon the incurable baseness and vileness of the times, the frustrated soften their feeling of failure and isolation. Thus, by deprecating the present, they acquire a vague sense of equality. The cause itself becomes the reason for one's existence. As Hoffer pointed out, the means a mass movement uses to make the present unpalatable strike a responsive chord in the frustrated. The self mastery needed in overcoming their appetites gives them an illusion of strength. They feel that in the mastering themselves they have mastered the world. One gains the impression that the frustrated derive as much satisfaction, if not more, from the means a mass movement uses as from the end it advocates. My God, is that true? Thus Hoffer is describing a fanatic and fanaticism. He says the fanatic's passionate attachment is the essence of his blind devotion and religiosity. And he sees in it the source of all virtue and strength. Though his single minded dedication is a holding on for dear life, he easily sees himself as the supporter and defender of the holy cause to which he clings. These would be Fuentes and the Gropers and the people who subscribe to Carlson and Bannon. These would be the Marxists, the Islamists, the people who vote for Mondami and Hisok. Hoffer explains it this. The fanatic cannot be weaned away from his cause by an appeal to his reason or moral sense. Let me repeat that. The fanatic cannot be weaned away from his cause by an appeal to his reason or moral sense. Again, this is in chapter two in American Marxism. He fears compromise and cannot be persuaded to qualify the certitude and righteousness of his holy cause. His passionate attachment is more vital than the quality of the cause to which he is attached. He continues to live without an ardent, dedicated. Dedication is to be adrift and abandoned. He sees intolerance, a sign of weakness, frivolity and ignorance. He hungers for the deep assurance which comes with total surrender, with a whole hearted clinging to a creed and a cause. Sorry, I have to read with a magnifying glass. What matters is not the content. Hold on. Is not the contents of the cause, but the total dedication and communion with the congregation. The fanatic comes from all walks of life and all backgrounds. You could look at George Soros, you can look at others like Benda. Hoffer sees the fanatic in the mass movement as centered on an intense, if not obsessive, hatred. He says passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus, people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives, try to find a new content, not only by dedicating themselves to our holy cause, but also by nursing a fanatical grievance. A mass movement offers them unlimited opportunities for both. Indeed, I write, the dangerousness of this hatred, when tied to a cause, can have calamitous societal and human consequences. It leads to scapegoating, Balkanization, violence, and, in its more aggressive form, ethnic cleansing. I write more broadly and simultaneously. This hatred seeks to malign, debase, debauch, and ultimately topple the status quo and the civil society. I'd say this is unmarked, don't you, Mr. Producer? In the end, if such mass movements succeed, the result is totalitarianism. Hannah Arendt, who I cite in several of my books, but I'm pointing it out here in American Marxism. Genius, writer, philosopher, she suffered through the Holocaust, and she writes, the attraction of evil and crime for the mob mentality is nothing new. It has always been true that the mob will greet deeds of violence with the admiring remark. It may be mean, but it's very clever. The disturbing factor in the success of totalitarianism is rather the true selflessness of its adherents. In point of fact, I write, mass movements are the necessary precursors to building revolutions and overthrowing governments in the immediate instance, our own republic by various and competing tactical approaches. But as described earlier, there is a commonality and essential methodology to this counter revolution and societal transformation. And that is the voice and the view of a collective. And I go on in excruciating detail throughout the book, especially this chapter. In this chapter, not by accident, I titled Breeding Mobs. And we are Breeding mobs. We are breeding Marxists. Marxist Islamists, and we are breeding Fascists. I'll be right back. Folks, I have a question for you. Do you believe America's best days are still ahead? With the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence coming up in less than a year, my friends at the Heritage foundation are taking stock of the current situation and they need your input. They've launched a survey on America's future to gauge how America's feel right now about where we are as a nation and where we're headed in the next 250 years. You know, for decades, your American values have been under attack. But now, with President Trump's administration in office, we have an opportunity to turn the tide and usher in a new golden age for America. But the Heritage foundation needs to hear from you. What policies do patriots like you most care about? What do you believe are the defining principles of America? What legacy do you believe we should pass on to the next Generation? Please visit heritage.org lavin today and share your feedback and help shape the Future of America. That's heritage.org Levin, paid for by the Heritage Foundation. I hope this information that I'm conveying you find useful because it affects you and the country. And I try to draw from people who have written before and have experienced these things firsthand and then apply it to present day in a way that you and I not only can understand, but realize what's taking place. I see some of our friends, columnists, and others are writing and writing well about what's taking place. Not enough, but several. And I'm impressed with the fact about what many of them are saying, but they are going over ground we've already gone over. And the problem now is what do we do about this? And I think what we do about it is what we're doing right here and what I'm doing on other platforms, which is confront it. And the individuals who have popularized themselves and enriched themselves in promoting this are playing with dynamite. And I personally have an obligation to call them out and confront them. And I feel with you, an army of millions, that we can overcome this on the left and the neo Nazi right. We're coming upon the 250th birthday of the United States. And it has me thinking, what will America look like 250 years from now? My friends at the Heritage foundation want to know what you think. What policies should America prioritize? What principles should carry us into the decades ahead as America enters a new golden age? Heritage recognizes that this is the time to take stock and to be intentional about how we shape the future of America. And they can't do it without your input. So please go to heritage.org Levin and let them know what you think is important. Without patriots like you stepping up and speaking up for what you believe in, America as we know it can't survive for another 250 years. Please go to heritage.org Levin heritage.org Levin take the survey on America's future. This survey takes less than 10 minutes to complete, but it is critical for making sure that the America we pass on to future generations is an America we're proud of. Go to heritage.org Levin today. That's heritage.org L E V I N paid for by the Heritage Foundation.

Mark Levin (20:32)

There we go. Breeding mobs is the title of the chapter, breeding Mobs. Given the injustices, prejudices and inequality imposed by society's dominant groups against so called oppressed groups, at least this is the mentality. The oppressed groups must awaken to their inferior status, become politically aware, and then rise up in protest and even revolution against the existing society. And you see this with the Marxists and the fascists. Of course, the oppressed must be encouraged to rise up and join in protest and even revolution. And this is pretty much what you're hearing from podcasters. Ultimately, these arguments for collective identity, collective beliefs and class consciousness in support of mass movements, willingly or otherwise, have a Marxist formulation, even for the fascists, and form the basis not only for peaceful protests, but violence, riots, revolution. And that's what's being urged by both. That's what's being urged by both. And when your goal is to overthrow a country, that means the goal is to overthrow you. You're the country. I've been banging the pots and pans, I've been ringing the bells, I've been beeping the horn. And I'm going to keep doing it. I'm going to keep doing it because it is an enormous necessity with a large vacuum. I explained certain aspects of this in the book On Power, the use of language to distort, to manipulate, to mislead, to, to control. Podcasters are good at that. They're good at very little else. They've accomplished very little else in their lives. They've been, for the most part, propagandists their entire careers, regardless of the platform. They've never done anything else. Many of them. You can see that with Carlton, you can see that with Fuentes, you can see that with Kelly, you can see that with Jones. That's all they've ever done. That's all they've ever done. And so they're masters of propaganda. They're masters at manipulation, they're masters at deceit. In my humble opinion, that's what they do. Propaganda is the reasoned use of historical and scientific arguments to indoctrinate. To indoctrinate. Not to educate, but to indoctrinate. Language has many purposes at its core. Language is about communication, of course, and many types of communication, many purposes for it. I talk about the power of language and the power over language in chapter four of On Power. Again, the distinction has been discussed over the ages and in recent times. That said, I use them to make certain fundamental points, understanding that they are distinguishable in significant ways, the pursuit and maintenance of negative power. And that's what we're talking about here require the utilization of negative techniques of communication, including manipulation, deception, repetition, deceit, concealment, distraction and fear mongering in language that is intimidating, self serving and orchestrated. It is an approach that seeks to arouse prejudices and stifle independent thought. The purpose is to exert power over language, over language, and to control the population without moral reservations. That's exactly what's taking place. Indeed, morality itself is said to be relative or nothing but an abstraction. Hamas is not a terrorist group. It's a political organization concealing the rot. The rot, they argue, of open societies and democracies and obfuscating the exploitation of the people in the political context. When language is applied this way, it strikes a central part of a democratic system, denying the body politic information with which to make knowledge qualitative and to make collective societal decisions. Of course, this is the intention of its practitioners. Moreover, communication of this sort exists for the purpose of arousing and angering the citizenry and exhorting them to action that is destructive of the existing society and their own lives and lifestyles in service to the demagogue and his aims. And as much as the people and their consent are the only legitimate and just source of government, the entire enterprise becomes corrupt and malevolent. Citizens acquiesce to it, regurgitate it, or even demand it. Where placo ball vote for it, believing there's no other course or that it is the best course until it's too late to reverse course without an abrupt and often violent revolt. But for many, suffering persists for an expended period of time. So I've been writing about this threat to our country and free countries for some time, going all the way back to the earliest books. But I thought I would underscore the point this evening. So when you're listening to people or you're on the Internet, reading what they have to say, understand what's going on, cut through it. If something sounds strange, it is. If something sounds immoral, it is. If something sounds controlling and manipulative and misleading, it is. It doesn't matter who it's coming from. It's these things and more. So I'm just encouraging you to please keep this in mind. Because right now I think we have an epidemic, maybe even a pandemic of so called influencers, podcasters. And not just podcasters, video casters I guess you call them, who fall into this, into this rank, who are making a fortune, I mean a fortune lying to you, deceiving you, manipulating you about the most Basic things, the Bible, Christianity, Jews, World War II, Hitler versus Churchill, go down the list. And they're doing this intentionally and they're doing this to try in and bring down this society. They have no intention of helping anybody. They have no intention or actually they have no connection with you. They're trying to create something that's been created many times in the past. What Eric Hoffer was talking about, what Arendt was talking about, what others are talking about, what I've been writing about and talking about. This exists now. We're going to move on next hour and we have some great guests. Governor Greg Abbott esta he wanted to come on and discuss a few things. We have professor emeritus University, California, Santa Cruz, John Ellis, who wrote a brilliant piece in the New York Post. He says it's time to put these colleges in a receivership, a former receivership, and address this issue in the faculty because it's not going to be addressed by any agreements by them, that is the schools or anything of the sort. And this poison and this propaganda is going to continue. It's not about free speech. It's about who controls these institutions. And I think that's exactly right. In fact, I know it is. I'll be right back. Folks, I have a question for you. Do you believe America's best days are still ahead? With the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence coming up in less than a year, my friends at the Heritage foundation are taking stock of the current situation and they need your input. They've launched a survey on America's future to gauge how America's feel right now about where we are as a nation and where we're headed in the next 250 years. You know, for decades your American values have been under attack. But now where President Trump's administration in office, we have an opportunity to turn the tide and usher in a new golden age for America. But the Heritage foundation needs to hear from you. What policies do patriots like you most care about? What do you believe are the defining principles of America? What legacy do you believe we should pass on to the next Generation? Please visit heritage.orglevin today and share your feedback and help shape the future of America. That's heritage.org Levi and paid for by the Heritage Foundation. All right, I'm going to comment on the Epstein man just to show you how disgusting this leak from the Democrats is and the Republicans who are piling on, they put out an email, Mr. Producer, where they redact a name. Virginia Dupree. Everybody knows It's Virginia Dupree. It's an email that's insinuating that Donald Trump spent a lot of time with her and that there was something that may have taken place there. The problem is, in 2016, incense. Virginia Dupree herself, on the record, has said that Donald Trump was never involved in anything untoward with her, any kind of behavior, conduct. She didn't witness anything that took place, period. So the question that's being asked is, then why did the Democrats redact her name, Mr. Producer? To try and create a scandal. And so when you have Republicans on Capitol Hill and you have podcasters and phony influencers jumping all over this like there's something here, there's literally nothing here. Trump kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of Mar A Lago decades ago because he was being a sleazeball to his female employees. So he threw him out and he was being a sleazeball to Jeffrey, Virginia Jeffrey, not Dupree, Jeffrey. So the whole thing is to concoct conversation. And we've been through this stuff before. The Russia hoax. This is a hoax. If there was anything on Donald Trump, it would be leaked. So instead they redact the name of this woman, Virginia Jeffrey, who has said, who has said that nothing happened. Said nothing happened. They redact the name of this alleged victim. That's her. That's her. To create the impression that there's something wrong. And that's their strongest email. Then you have emails where you have an authority, you have an author, this guy Wolf who writes these gossip books, Michael Wolf, who's advising Epstein on how to damage Trump, on how to get the goods on him. And there's other journalists who appear to be advising Epstein on what to do. So this is why I just don't spend a ton of time on this. You're going to have ignoramuses, podcasters of all stripes who are going to be going on and on and on and on about this. And as far as releasing files, it's the President of the White House itself that said, go ahead, release all the grand jury information. And the reason they're saying that is there are real victims. Epstein was a monster, a monster. There are real victims, real victims, but there aren't any names as a result of Donald Trump because they would have come out by now. There's not a single podcaster of any stripe or single, I don't know, manipulator of any kind that can name any. And so they redact the name of Virginia Jeffrey, the so called unnamed victim who spent hours with President Trump when she has said for years there was nothing untoward about his behavior or conduct or anything else. And it was Trump, after learning about Jeffrey Epstein's behavior, banned him from Mar a Lago. So they're trying to create an error. Well, let's release all the files. Release all the files. Well, they're leaking what they think are the most important parts. I don't care if it's released or not. Doesn't matter to me. But that's not the point. The point is this clearly is intended to change the narrative from this failed shutdown and the withholding of food stamps and everything led by the Democrats. The Democrats are expert propagandists and manipulators expert. And you're going to see this times a million, should they win the House of Representatives back like they did last time. And you're going to see it all attached to impeachment. You even have some of these low life so called podcasters of fake maga as well as the left coming to this. Could be impeachment. What could be impeachment, Mr. Producer?

Mark Levin (35:45)

So there's no controversy here as applies to Trump. One of the controversies that, that seems to be ignored all the time is Bannon, who was apparently advising Epstein on how to deal with this crisis. There are videos of this, I believe, that Bannon the Bennett had produced and he won't release those. The confessed felon will not release his videos. And so again, we have these damnable phony journalists like this. Michael Wolf is an author to advising Epstein on how to damage Trump. I want to, I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked as Trump, Trump, he says victim one in the email, it's redacted. And it's this woman I just told you about. Spend hours at my house with him and he has never once been mentioned. That is Trump. But it has been mentioned. And victim one was not victimized by Donald Trump. How do we know? She said so years and years ago and since. And so you have all these reports on this, you have all these podcasts. They live on this stuff. They just want to gin it up. I need eyes. I need, I need subscriptions. I, I want. I am righteous. Release this stuff. I am righteous. I call them as I see him. I am righteous. I call balls and strikes. No, you're not. You're frauds, phonies and fools who don't have the guts to stand up. Who don't have the guts to stand up and to fight it. I do. I try to ignore it. But it's, you know, it's this point I have to respond to this. Let's see here if I can get the exact quote. She was deposed in 2016 and denied that Donald Trump assaulted her, had sex with her, was untoward, treated him badly, period. And she said that under oath, categorically denied it. I'll be right back. This segment of the podcast is exclusively sponsored by Pure Talk. Pure Talk offers great coverage and can save your family money on your wireless bill every single month. Go to PureTalk.com to find the plan that's right for you. Thank you again for listening and thank you so much for this sponsorship. Pure Talk. He's here.

Mark Levin (38:50)

Once again made contact with our leader, Mark Levin. Hello, America. Mark Levin here. Our number, 8773-8138-1187-7381-3811. Let me address this again just because there's a lot of a holes out there who are lying to you, both Democrats and Republicans. The Epstein case, as even pointed out by Factually.com here, Virginia Giphry's sworn deposition in 2016 and later public accounts consistently deny that Donald Trump sexually assaulted her, had sex with her, while confirming she worked at Mar? A Lago and met Trump there. Her posthumous memoir and reporting add context but do not allege criminal conduct by Donald Trump. Media coverage and statements from Trump and his defendants have emphasized different narratives. Trump saying Epstein stole workers from Mar? A Lago, Jiffy's family expressing shock. Jiffy's own accounts stressing encounters but never implicating Trump, any of it, and what she said under oath. The clear denial, clear denial. In her deposition testimony, it's been repeatedly cited. She denied that Donald Trump flirted with her, had sex with her, or was involved in sexual encounters with any girls who were in Epstein's network during the time she knew Epstein. Now, this categorical denial is central to the factual record and was reported in coverage of her 2016 deposition released publicly years later. And the testimony also confirmed more prosaic facts. She worked as a locker room or spa attendant in Mar? A Lago around 2000, met President Trump there on multiple occasions. Those work and meeting details are corroborated across her memoir and reporting. But importantly, the deposition separates attendants and acquaintance from any allegations of wrongdoing by Trump. Any allegation. Her posthumous memoir and interviews elaborate on her early life, her work at Mar A Largo, encounters with high profile figures, including the president or then just Trump Prince Andrew Maxwell. And it does not accuse Trump of sexual misconduct, instead depicting him as part of the social backdrop of Mar a Largo in 2000. And that's, I mean, I don't know what else to say, Mr. Producer. It's hard to know what else, what else can you say? It is a hoax. And so the Democrats release an email and they redact Virginia Jeffrey's name to try and create the impression that, that they're protecting her or protecting her reputation from Trump. Once she's testified under oath, when she has said so publicly that nothing ever happened, not even a flirtation, not even once. And that, of course, is a hoax. The release of this today and the media running wild with it, it's a hoax and they're going to keep up with it because what else do they have? Seriously, what else do they have? They don't have anything. This is who they are. And let's see here if I can find. So there's nothing that the Democrats release that create any kind of scandal of any kind, as a matter of fact. Period. Nothing. And yet, oh, at least the files we got. You got nothing because there is nothing. We have this guy Whitehouse who's the, a senator from Rhode Island. He's, he's a real low life. He's despicable. Says there were more than eight Democrats who wanted to end the shutdown. So he kind of let the cat out of the bag on Ms. LSD's last word, which nobody ever watches. Sheldon Whitehouse said that there were more than eight Democrats in the Senate who wanted to join with Senate Republicans and vote to end the government shutdown and would have possibly stepped up if one of the eight Democrats who ultimately voted the way they voted hadn't done so. And he defended Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer by saying that the Senate isn't the same as the House because members of the Senate have more independents, because a leadership switch in the middle of a fight is a bad strategy. He added that Schumer also had a bigger number of senators to deal with than eight. He had the three you mentioned. He says to the interviewer, who had never voted to stop the continuing resolution. He had the five who voted and changed that day. But Senator Tim Kaine has said publicly that there were another five or six that were waiting in the wings and that were encouraging them. One of them had not voted. Somebody else might have stepped in to make the eighth vote. So our caucus had a bigger problem than just eight. Now, that said they are going to vote on the House. But there are two issues. The Republicans added in their language that those who were part of the illegal spy effort by rogue unconstitutional prosecutor Jack Smith could sue the government for compensation. And people are upset with this, saying they shouldn't have stuck any language in there. I don't really care. What do you think of that, Mr. Producer? I don't really care. Well, why should they get money? Well, because they were spied on. That's why. I'm just saying. But it's not a big principled issue with me that should determine a vote one way or the other. It's just not. That's just my opinion. So the speaker has to deal with that. He's not happy with what the Senate did. He just wanted to get a vote on what they sent over to the Senate. And apparently this language was put in. And we've got at least one, maybe two. But I think one member from Florida who's saying, I think it's stubby, who we like. I'm not voting for this unless you take it out. Okay, great. How are you going to do that? In other words, that's what was sent back. Then you have the. Then you have Hakeem Jeffries, who is just a disaster, just awful. And he's in the position where, according to the House rules, apparently he can essentially conduct his own filibuster, not in terms of the voting totals, but in terms of the time he can have on the floor and talk. In other words, he can talk forever if he wants to. And the thinking is, and the understanding is that he's going to talk for a while, maybe not all through the night, but for those of you people in the government, those of you in the government who are upset about what's taking place, why do you take it out on the Republicans? It's incoherent. It's irrational. Is it just because you're a dyed in a wool Democrat? What is it exactly? This was done by the Democrats. So if you're upset with this, if you're not getting food stamps and you're upset with it, or some other program when you're upset with it, then at least have enough common sense to understand who you're upset with. And if you're not upset with the Democrats, well, then good, you deserve what you got because you're blaming the Republicans who tried to get this thing through and fought it day and day, night and day and night, and then had a had 14 or 15 votes in the Senate where it was voted down. Then it's on you and your party. You and your party. And he got Gavin Newsom was destroyed. The greatest state in the country. I mean that with the greatest wealth, geography, opportunities. Destroyed it. It's not the greatest anymore. Here we have our friends at Breitbart, one of the great sites. Gavin Newsom shames Democrats who caved in Shutdown battle, Pathetic capitulation and a betrayal. This guy's such a punk. He's such a demagog, this guy. And he's a moron to boot. Just a clown. I'll be right back. There's a reason I'm proud to say PureTalk is my wireless company. Because they don't just talk the talk, they walk the walk. Especially when it comes to supporting our veterans. This month PureTalk is choosing to support Canines for Warriors, an incredible organization that rescues and trains dogs, then pairs them with veterans struggling with ptsd. These are men and women who serve with honor, but when they come home, that brotherhood and support network they had in the military too often disappears. Canines for warriors steps up to fill the gap, giving these heroes purpose, companionship and healing. That's exactly why PureTalk, a veteran led company, supports them. Choose a wireless company that shares your values and with talk, text and plenty of 5G data for just 25 bucks a month, you could also be saving a ton of Money. Go to PureTalk.com Levin to make the switch today. Again, go to PureTalk.com Levin and switch to America's wireless company. My wireless company, Pure Talk. This group care, in my view, is a one of the great public enemies in this country. It's a front group. It's always been a front group, cair and of course they've been very close to the Democrat party. The Democrat parties give them political sustenance and oxygen has pulled them into their administrations when they have the White House. The FBI has used them. And this is part of the enemy within crowd care Ohio Director the great Breitbart site Mandame victory a quote, referendum on Palestinian resistance, coup against Democrat establishment. Look how I mean, they're out in the open now, folks. The executive director of the Council on American Islamic Relations Ohio chapter described the election of New York City's new socialist mayor, AKA Marxist Islamists. Zoran Mandami is both a quote, coup unquote against the Democratic Party elites and quote, a referendum unquote on Palestinian and Lebanese resistance. That's Hamas and Hezbollah. So they support Hamas and Hezbollah, they hate America. The American establishment, they call it, but they really mean Western society. It's a referendum. Framing the victory as a political and ideological revolt against the American establishment. Khalid Tehrani made the remarks on Lebanon's Mayadine TV the day after Mandani's election, according to a video released by memory. I've told you this memory site is essential. Memri.org memri.org Folks, check it out every day. Me mri.org they monitor these guys. They have interpreters who take these languages, whether it's Arabic or Farsi or whatever the hell it is, and they. And they interpret it in English for us. Very, very, very important, I think. Very important. Let's go on. I believe Zorami represents an opposition to the entire American deep state. He says through his historic victory, which is unprecedented in modern times, Mondami has defeated the traditional Democratic Party. He cited Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's refusal to endorse Mondami as evidence of the establishment's hostility, calling the New York Democrat a Zionist first of all and a Jewish New Yorker who withheld support despite representing the same city. You see. You see the Jew hatred that's tied to the America hatred. So Mandami's victory constitutes a coup against the entire political establishment, which is represented by someone like Andrew Cuomo. It is also a coup against the Democratic Party, which tried and succeeded in 2015 to push aside Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, who was a similar case to Zorhan Mandami. There you have it, the Marxist Islamist fusion that I've been talking about. People call it green, red. I don't know what they call it, but I've been writing about this for years and years and years. And I'll need the colors green and red. It's Marxist Islamist. Tehrani of CAIR warned that the Democratic Party elite will do everything in their power to make Zoram Ondami fail. You see, they're already setting up for his failure. It's not going to be his fault that the guy is a Marxist nut job. It'll be the fault of the system. I hear people say all the time, well, you know, the Marxists, the Communists, they always say, well, we'll try again and it'll work. We'll try again and it'll work. If they read Ameritopia, they would know I've made this point over and over again in a meritopia that they have to personalize the failure. They cannot allow their ideology to be the failure. And they're never going to these are tyrants, these are totalitarians. All right, we have with us the Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott. Governor, how are you, sir?

Greg Abbott (54:23)

Well, actually, to be honest with you, I think I'm doing more about it than any other governor in America. Because, you know, we all know what happened with Mondamin, the Marxist regime he's imposing there, and we're not gonna let it happen here. Let me quickly tell you what we've done. So you mentioned that it's called the EPIC center up in the Dallas area that we just shut down. Let me tell you what it was and what we did. Epic, they proposed an Islamic only development. And I signed a law that we passed here this past session that prevents compounds like Epic City from even being created. What it did, it banned them for creating no go zones. It prevented them from selling or renting land only to people who follow Islam. It requires that these disputes be brought under Texas laws and courts, not under Sharia law. And it empowers the Attorney General in Texas to shut down developments like that. I want you to know as we're talking right now, we have ongoing investigations by the Attorney General, by the Texas Rangers, by the Fair Housing Agency, by the Texas State Securities Board, by the Texas Commissioner on Environmental Quality to make sure that this attempted EPIC center up in the Dallas area is never going to get off the ground. To be clear, Texas law, Texas courts are the only law that governs our residents, our businesses, our neighborhoods. And Mark, last thing, on top of all that, previously I signed a law saying that Sharia law does not apply in Texas. And then furthering that, you know, both you and I are very much constitutionalist. Texas has a very precise Constitution. In Article 1, Section 1 of our Constitution, it says that only Texas and United States law apply in our state. No other law and then Article 1, Section 6 says that no one can have religious beliefs forced on them. It doesn't say Sharia law, but any, any type of law like that, no religious belief can be forced on anybody in the state of Texas. So we got it covered from our constitution, from laws that are signed, from law enforcement that are working on it as we speak.

Mark Levin (63:26)

You bet. It's not a hard endorsement, America, is it, Rich? The guy's fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. Now this Obamacare, well, Mr. Producer went back to 20. When did you go back? 2009 when this was first being discussed and then 2012 when it was being rolled out and being implemented in 2013 when it was already sucking the resources out of Medicare and out of the taxpayers. So I'm not going to play it all, but let's take a look at cut 2. This is from 2012, January 2012 on the mark Levin radio show, Cut to Go. There is no basis whatsoever in our history for this kind of a law. None. And we don't much give a damn if the masterminds think that it's the right thing to do or if they're seeking to balance budgets when they never do. None of that matters. They do not have the authority to do it. And the people who fought to create this, this Nation. And then the people, after we won the revolution, who sat down and developed our Constitution and argued over it and then adopted it, sent it to the states for ratification. You know what's interesting about that? I think if it happened all over again today, these clowns in Washington wouldn't be sending anything to the states. They wouldn't give a damn about the states, would they? And yet the states had to ratify the Constitution or there'd be no Constitution. There'd be no federal court, there'd be no federal executive branch or Congress. There'd be no Supreme Court to decide whether or not individuals are free. This Obamacare lawsuit is about more than health care, although it's certainly about that. It's about a hell of a lot more than that. It's about whether there's any, any more line drawing when it comes to the power of the federal government. And basically the Obama administration, predictably, is arguing no. Well, they won't put it in so many words, but you and I know exactly what they mean, don't we? We know exactly what they're up to. You know, they're used to fooling us, pretending that they're not seizing power. And yet this, excuse me, is a blatant paragraph. Blatant. Not only, folks, back live was Obamacare always a, an economic and policy disaster. It was unconstitutional. People forget it was a 5 to 4 vote with the Chief justice switching at the very end. When that opinion came out on Obamacare and I read it, we discussed this on the air at length. I told you something changed at the end. There's typos in here. There's, there's almost half sentences here. They didn't have time to really do the thorough editing that the Court does. That there was a last minute switch and I think it was Roberts. And as subsequent reports indicated, it was Roberts and it was last minute. Even Justice Kennedy apparently went to the Chief Justice's office and tried to persuade him not to do what he did. So I just want to remind you that the court under Chief justice of the United States John Roberts enshrined what is a disastrous health care program that blows the lid off the budget. That is also unconstitutional. And I'll insist that it remains unconstitutional, which was my point in 2012, and it is destroying the health care system. All of you, even those of you, most of you are not on Obamacare. You see your premiums going up. That has nothing to do with the market system. That has to do with Obamacare, the government system. And their fix for this is really? To eliminate employer provided or subsidized health care for all you folks who have it. That's their answer to this. And so a year later, September 2013, I said this. Cut three, go, please. We have been making the case day in and day out, objecting to this. It's bad enough that the federal government using the Internal Revenue Service to muscle, to bully, to smother, to impose. It's bad enough that they're destroying the greatest health care system in the world. I have articles here in front of me, the Cleveland Clinic, one of the greatest hospitals on the planet. And I've been to the Cleveland Clinic when I was desperate with my heart problems. The fact that they're laying off hundreds of people, the hospital at Vanderbilt University laying off hundreds of people, closing hospital beds. This doesn't have to be. Obama is doing this. His radical ideology. The American people despise this. And it hasn't even been implemented yet. It is destroying our economy. It is destroying our job creation ability. It is draining the resources out of this nation. It is redistributing wealth from the private sector to this massive bureaucracy. And we are supposed to just take it, the lawlessness, the irrationality, and it has real human consequences for each and every one of us in our families. This is a disaster. And people say, let's wait to fully implement it. What? How many lives are going to be affected negatively by this? How much misery should be spread in order to. Well, let's see what the people think then. That's not how America is supposed to operate. One Congress for two years, that's all it was to impose its will. And as president, this imperial President Obama, he insists that no future Congress, not this one, not anyone, shall have the constitutional authority to reverse course. There you have it. We'll be right back. There's a reason I'm proud to say Pure Talk is my wireless company. Because they don't just talk the talk, they walk the walk. Especially when it comes to supporting our veterans. 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Mark Levin (72:59)

Hello America, Mark Levin here. Our number, 8773-8138-1187-7381-3881. When you know the last round of this Epstein stuff. When I said I, I'm not going to get into this, I think Katarlson was saying implicating that I didn't want to do it because Epstein was Jewish. Mr. Producer, I don't know if he was Jewish or not. What does that have to do with anything? Absolutely nothing. But that's what bigots and anti Semites do. Has anybody actually read the emails released by the Democrats today? Have they? Like I've been going through with you and they highlighted by the media regarding Epstein. Have they? You know there's nothing in there. The reporting is outrageous and the headlines are grotesquely dishonest. The victim, whose name is redacted is well known as I Mentioned Giselle Maxwell. Isn't that her last. That's not her last name. What is her last name, Mr. Reduce? Say it again. Yeah, I'm not sure why you sent me Giselle Maxwell. So what is her name? Spell that for me. Not Virginia. The last name, what is it? GIU F F, R E. Virginia. Jeffrey. She testified under oath and under penalty of perjury that Donald Trump never so much as flirted with her. We also read the sleazy efforts by certain reporters to push a false narrative and smear Trump. So the question is, why did the Democrats release these emails? Why did they release them now? Why did they redact Jeffrey's name? And why are the media acting like there's some bombshell? Hmm? Well, we know why. Because it's all an attempt to attack Trump. The quote, release the files crowd, they remind me of the quote, release the tax returns crowd. There was no wrongdoing in the President's tax returns, but they were leaked. And there was wrongdoing by Trump. There was none in the so called Epstein files. Well, if there was wrongdoing by Trump in the so called Epstein files, the question I keep asking is why wasn't a single example of wrongdoing raised by the Biden regime or anyone else, even now. So why not release the files? Exactly what files are they talking about? And what of Epstein's victims? What of his victims? Do they get a say in whether files are released? Seems a lot more complicated to me. That said, the smearing of the President is utterly unwarranted, totally unwarranted even by his worst enemies and certainly by his supposed friends and allies. Totally unwarranted. We're going to go ahead and post this, Mr. Producer. Now, I'm going to send this to you, and as I get attacked, I will read some of those to you tomorrow so you can see who his real enemies, our real enemies are as they are obsessed with this, as they are with demons and UFOs and Jews and Netanyahu, Christian Zionists, Hitler and the rest. It's that crowd you see that join in with the Democrats and the left. You understand this, America, Mr. And Mrs. America. You're out there. This is what we're dealing with. You understand it. Speaker Mike Johnson on CNN yesterday, which means nobody heard him because he was on cnn. So I will play this for you. Actually, I'm gonna skip that, Mr. Producer. Let's go to number six. He's on Capitol Hill today. He's had fantastic press conferences. He's been doing a great job Communicating with the American people through a hostile press. Cut six, go. We believe the long national nightmare will be over tonight. It was completely and utterly foolish and pointless in the end, as we said all along. I just want to apologize to any.

Mark Levin (77:58)

All of that's on the Democrats. Just never Forget they voted 15 times between the House and the Senate to close your government. And the Republicans tried every single day of the shutdown to open it. And we voted 15 times to do that. They have a lot to answer for. And I just want to say that we're very optimistic about the vote tally tonight. We think this is going to happen and we're sorry that it took this long. So Republicans are going to deliver for the people. We're ready to get back to our legislative agenda. We have a very aggressive calendar for the remainder of this year. There'll be some long days and nights here, some long working weeks, but we will get this thing back on track. You know, he's a soft spoken man. He's a well spoken man. He's a decent and kind man. And he's underestimated by these people all the time and he wins every battle so far. He's won every battle in my humble opinion. Caroline Levitt at the White House press briefing today on this shutdown. Cut seven. Go. The damage caused by the Democrats with this reckless government shutdown cannot be forgotten. It is entirely the fault of the Democrat Party. Just look at the vote count. Hundreds of thousands of federal employees have missed their paychecks. Tens of billions in wages and benefits were withheld, impacting vulnerable families. Millions of low income Americans missed their SNAP benefits. Nearly 20,000 flights at airports across the country were delayed due to staffing shortages, causing Americans to miss family events, vacations and work obligations. According to Airlines for America, an estimated 5.2 million travelers have had their flights disrupted over the course of the Democrat shutdown. And our economy has lost billions and billions of dollars in economic activity over the course of this shutdown, hurting consumer sentiment and crushing the travel and hospitality industrial. But have the Democrats learned anything? This guy, I think he's running for the Senate. He's got more consonants in his name than I know how to pronounce it. Just not something I'm familiar with. Raja Krishnamurathy, I believe. Democrat Illinois that is a long bumper sticker, don't you think, Mr. Producer? And of course he's on the Constipated News Network today. Take a listen to this. Cut nine, go. Today we are in the House and we're going to vote on this deal. I'm going to be voting no. There's still time for this to get righted. I think that it's going to be on razor's edge as it normally is in the House. And so I hope that your viewers speak up and ask Democrats to stand united and also get, get a few Republicans to flip as well. When you talk about getting it righted.

Producer (88:46)

Yeah, exactly. I mean, in no other walk of life would you allow a particular activity at a particular firm to announce, you know, have an announced purpose of one thing, but that actually when you look at it, it's doing something totally different. You wouldn't allow that anywhere else. You wouldn't. I mean, if you hire a guy to come and fix your roof, you wouldn't be very pleased if you find he's decided to dig your rose garden instead. That's the kind of thing we're dealing with, with universities. A group of radical political activists have decided that they're going to take over the universities, use them for their own purposes and forget about the business of bringing students up to speed with the current state of knowledge in the world and forget about developing their thinking ability. All they want is, in fact, they want the reverse. They want students to shut down their thinking ability and believe what the professor tells them to believe. And, and they'll keep them. Not only will they not promote knowledge, but they make very sure they don't get the knowledge that might cause them to question what the radical professors want. For example, it's obvious that. Take for example, he's a pure campus product. I mean, you know, outside the campus he looks weird and new and original. On the campus, he's just like every other, every other person on the campus who's speaking radical politics. So, you know, he's completely unoriginal. And obviously to have someone with those beliefs like, you know, that Marxism is wonderful, it really works and it really does produce the goods for the people and so on. What you have to do, obviously, is to keep students completely ignorant of the 20th century. You have to make sure they never find out that Soviet Russia tried communism and it fell apart because it doesn't work. And you make sure that kids never understood, understand that the only way you can enforce communism, say in Eastern Europe is by a military dictatorship with a, with a pretty decent sized secret police to keep, to crack down on people who start to get doubtful about it. So it's a very practical thing. I mean, I'd like to see someone impose a new president, come in and simply tell people that, remind them what a university is supposed to be for. Tell them that they better get back to doing that. What university is supposed. Or they'll be fired.

Mark Levin (93:19)

Call in now at 877-3811. Well, America, the vote is over. In the past, the remnants of the government that have been closed will be open now, or at least in due course. The vote was 222 to 209. Obviously, some of the members couldn't get there, but 222 to 209 or they sat out. Now, six Democrats voted yes and two Republicans voted no. Massie, of course, voted no. He's kamikaze. And Stubby of Florida voted no because they couldn't take out the provision on allowing Republican senators whose liberties and privacy were violated by the Democrats. And Jack Smith, the rogue unconstitutional prosecutor, on suing the government for recompense. The speaker said he'll try and deal with that after this vote, but we need to get this vote done. And he's right. So you have Massie and Stubby who voted no, very foolishly, for whatever the reason. And on the Democrat side, six voted yes. Tom Suozzi of, I guess that's how you pronounce it, of New York Swazi, Suozi Suozzy, whatever, Henry Cellular of Texas, Marie Perez of Washington state, Don Davis of North Carolina, Adam Gray of California and Jerry golden is actually fairly moderate of Maine, Democrat. He's retiring for two reasons. One, he's getting threats and he doesn't think he can maintain his security. He's Jewish, he's a moderate Democrat and two, he's just decided enough is enough. He wants to be with his family. So those six Democrats voted the right way. If two Republicans voted the wrong way, it's heading for the president's desk and he's going to sign it. I just want people who vote Democrat who work for the government to understand that it's the Republicans who are getting you paid now, not the Democrats, not the Marxist Islamists who want this to go on forever. Just understand who did what. And that's the way it is. The president is expecting to sign it at 9:45pm Eastern time which is not that. About an hour and ten minutes away. Let's go to Mark Savoy, Illinois, the great kzrg. Mark, go right ahead please.