Mark Levin Podcast – 11/7/25: The Truth About Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes
Date: November 8, 2025
Host: Mark Levin
Main Theme and Purpose
Mark Levin dedicates this episode to a scathing critique of Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes. Levin seeks to expose what he calls their “vile” influence, particularly in conservative and MAGA circles, focusing on the platforming of Nick Fuentes by Carlson, their anti-Semitic and anti-Christian rhetoric, and recent betrayals within the conservative movement. Levin also rebuts the idea that debate or engagement with extremist figures is worthwhile, arguing instead for vigilant, principled opposition.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. Introduction and Framing the Issue
- (01:56) Levin opens by declaring this program a “public service” and asks why figures like Carlson and Fuentes have any audience, given their “hateful” rhetoric toward Jews, Christians, and patriotic Americans.
- (03:00) He reflects on Carlson’s attacks on his own family, highlighting personal grievances and the moral lines Carlson has crossed.
- “You lack morality... You lack character. You are mentally unhinged when you use your platform to viciously and connivingly and cowardly go after somebody's son...” (03:42)
- Calls Carlson “the Jerry Springer of podcasters… in a brown shirt.” (04:47)
2. Nick Fuentes’ Extremism and Platforming
- (08:40–10:21) Levin plays extended clips of Fuentes lauding Hitler, engaging in Holocaust denial, and making grotesque, coded analogies (“cookie” references).
- Fuentes: “It is Hitler Friday. Shut up. It is Heil Hitler Friday.” (08:48)
- Fuentes: “He was also really cool... Anybody who watches these videos... this guy’s awesome.” (09:05)
- Fuentes: “The Holocaust didn’t happen... The math doesn’t quite seem to add up there.” (10:09–10:27)
- (12:32) Levin asks rhetorically: “Should I bring him on my program? Should I get married time? Really?”
3. Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA
- (13:50–16:12) Clips of Fuentes bragging about “impregnating” TPUSA with followers and harassing Kirk.
- Fuentes: “I took Turning Point USA and I [expletive] it. That’s why it’s filled with gripers.” (14:00)
- Levin: “Charlie Kirk was a class act. He wanted nothing to do with you, you lowlife turd on the bottom of a shoe.” (16:12)
- (21:01–23:29) Fuentes again lambasts Kirk as a fake Christian and patriot; Levin underscores Kirk’s resistance to engagement with Fuentes.
- Reason for Focus: Levin views Carlson’s platforming of Fuentes after Charlie Kirk’s assassination as an “unspeakable betrayal.”
4. Carlson’s Interview with Fuentes & Softball Approach
- (31:57–32:51) Fuentes openly blames “organized Jewry” for problems in America; Carlson lobs soft questions, asking about Christian Zionists, setting up further anti-Semitic commentary.
- Fuentes: “The main challenge... is organized Jewry in America.” (31:57)
- Carlson: “How do you explain Mike Huckaby, Ted Cruz... the Christian Zionists... What is that?” (32:23)
- Levin: “He [Carlson] knows exactly what Fuentes is going to say. That’s why he invited him.” (33:00)
5. Rejection of “Debating Nazis” and Platforming Extremists
- Levin and Charlie Kirk (clips at 24:37–30:06) explain why they refuse to “debate Nazis” or “platform trolls.”
- Kirk: “I do not platform trolls and I don't... debate with people that are not good faith actors..." (26:12)
- Kirk: “If you are blaming 0.02% of the world's population for all of your problems, that is not going to be good for your soul.” (28:56)
- Levin: “I have no interest in elevating these guys. I'm doing this not because I want to, but because it's a public service.” (24:54)
6. Carlson’s Pattern of Platforming “America’s Enemies”
- Levin denounces Carlson’s interviews and favorable descriptions of:
- Mother Agapea Stephanopoulos (pro-Hamas nun): “Very important that we ask questions. Aren’t you sick of that, too?” (43:44)
- Praising aspects of Sharia law in Abu Dhabi and Riyadh (“society like this with a rape rate of 0...”) (49:11)
- Moscow: “So much nicer than any city in my country… food, service… wonderful places to live.” (51:30)
- Iranian President, Minister of Qatar, Nicolas Maduro (Venezuela): Carlson fails to challenge them or highlight their crimes.
- Levin: “You have Tucker Carlson praising Sharia law and trashing our country... This guy's not real world. He's a head case. He's a moron.” (49:36)
7. Critiquing the Conservative Movement’s Response
- (77:33–86:22) Levin reviews the timeline and opposition he’s faced for raising alarms, framing it as a necessary “battle for the heart and soul of the country.”
- "There’s a battle on the right. There’s no battle on the right. Conservatives and MAGA... We’re not them." (86:22)
- Castigates organizations (e.g., TPUSA, Megyn Kelly, certain media) for being slow or reluctant to reject the Fuentes/Carlson axis.
8. Levin’s Exchange with Carlson About a Proposed Debate
- (End of Hour 1, ~37:30) Reads text correspondence with Carlson, who asks for a public debate.
- Carlson (text): “There are real and important ideological differences between us... I think the country would benefit from an extended conversation...”
- Levin (response): “My family and I want nothing to do with you… You're a Nazi promoter. You're the modern-day David Duke.”
9. Audience and Callers
- Levin features mostly supportive callers echoing his points about the left, Islamism, and the betrayal of conservative values. He uses this as a springboard to reiterate his warning about infiltration at conservative events and pushback against Carlson/Fuentes apologists.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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Mark Levin:
- “He's the Jerry Springer of the podcasters, except he's Jerry Springer in a brown shirt.” (04:47)
- “I'm doing this as a public service America. So you know exactly what's taking place.” (20:27)
- “You platformed the guy. You gave him an opportunity to say what he wanted to say. He's a propagandist. You're a propagandist for the enemy. That's what you did. You're being revealed. You're being exposed for what you are. You're Tokyo Rose in blue jeans.” (55:38)
- “I'm not going to debate some piece of crap who's trashing my stepson. That's a coward. That's a punk.” (60:58)
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Nick Fuentes (from montage):
- “It is Hitler Friday. Shut up. It is Heil Hitler Friday.” (08:48)
- “Hitler was awesome. Hitler was right.” (10:04)
- “The Holocaust didn't happen... the math doesn't seem to add up there.” (10:09–10:27)
- “I took Turning Point USA and I [expletive] it... That's why it's filled with gripers.” (13:50–15:19)
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Charlie Kirk:
- “I don't debate the Klan. I don't debate Nazis. I don't debate low lives, poison cancer in the form of these truly evil people because then it rubs off on you forever.” (24:54)
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Tucker Carlson (multiple interviews):
- “What was radicalizing, very shocking and very disturbing for me was the city of Moscow... it is so much nicer than any city in my country.” (51:30)
- On Abu Dhabi and Riyadh: “A society like this with a rape rate of 0, where you leave your keys in your Lamborghini and don't ever worry about it being stolen...” (49:11)
- On interviewing the Iranian president: “I asked him very simple questions such as, what is your goal?” (55:33)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 01:56 — Levin frames the episode, takes aim at Carlson and Fuentes.
- 08:40–10:21 — Fuentes montage: Hitler praise, Holocaust denial.
- 13:50–16:12 — Fuentes on “impregnating” TPUSA; harassment of Charlie Kirk.
- 21:01–23:29 — Fuentes attacks Kirk's faith and patriotism.
- 24:37–30:06 — Kirk/Levin explain why they refuse to debate Nazis.
- 31:57–34:19 — Carlson interviews Fuentes: anti-Semitic Q&A, platforming.
- 49:11–49:36 — Carlson praises Sharia law societies.
- 51:30–52:33 — Carlson’s praise of Moscow; America’s urban “failure.”
- 55:33–55:38 — Carlson on interviewing Iran's president; Levin's reaction.
- 60:58–61:00 — Levin refuses to debate Carlson, denouncing betrayal of Kirk.
- 77:33–86:22 — Retrospective on the internal conservative fight and the timeline.
Tone and Language
Unapologetically combative, urgent, and passionate. Levin blends personal outrage with detailed argumentation and biting humor. He invokes analogies of historical evil (Nazi, Klan), derides his opponents as “lowlifes,” “propagandists,” “nut,” and “moron,” and appeals to his audience's sense of legacy and generational duty.
Summary of Takeaways
- Levin posits that Carlson and Fuentes are dangerous, unprincipled opportunists harming conservatism from within.
- He uses damning audio clips and direct textual exchanges to back his claims, especially around anti-Semitic, racist, and anti-American rhetoric.
- Levin and his guests (notably Kirk) argue forcefully against “debating Nazis” or giving a legitimate platform to bigots.
- The episode is as much a call for internal conservative vigilance as it is an exposé of Carlson and Fuentes.
- Levin sees this as a defining struggle: “…a responsibility to generations who stand behind us and rely on us in generations yet born. This is our responsibility. This is our generation's responsibility." (63:13)
For listeners and non-listeners alike, this episode serves as an intensive, uncompromising manifest on the boundaries of acceptable discourse and the need to guard against extremism within the movement.
