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He's here.
Larry O'Connor
He's here now. Broadcasting them from the underground command post deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker somewhere under to the brick and steel of a nondescript building, we've once again made contact with our leader, Mark Levin. My name's Larry o'. Connor. I'm in for the great one, Mark Levin. And boy, have we got a lot to talk about. Mark's gonna be back tomorrow. By the way. Always an honor and a pleasure to fill in for the great 1-877-381-3811. You know, the last couple of times I've had the honor of being behind Mark's. It's not a golden microphone, is it, Mr. Producer? He doesn't rush. Rush was the only one with a golden microphone. What are we. Is it platinum? Is it? Well, he's kind of, he's. But you know what? He's the blue collar guy. He's like the hard working, hard hat kind of. Let's call it, let's call it the iron microphone. I like that. I like the iron microphone. The last time I had a chance to sit in here behind Mark Levin's iron microphone, I realized after the fact that I'd done all the talking and we didn't get a chance to interact. And my favorite part about talk radio, the world's original social media. And your calls are the comments section. And I promised myself this evening that I will be, or I should say today that I'll be taking a lot of your call. So 877-381-3811. Love to have you chime in here. For those of you who don't know, I am the morning host on WMAL in Washington D.C. america's most important talk radio station. And I also have a daily live news news analysis show, streaming podcasts. I do live on all the video platforms out there for town hall media. I do that every day at noon live. So maybe if you want to look it up, it's called Larry. That's the name of the show. I didn't name it. They just named it Larry. What can I tell you? We have a lot to talk about. I want to talk about Brown University, this latest news conference that we just had about 45 minutes ago. Again, more questions than answers from the elected officials and law enforcement up there. There's something very bizarre about the investigation of the murder of the two poor students up there in Brown University. We'll get to the details of that and I'll play you some audio from that press conference. I also want to talk about how Christmas celebrations and New Year's celebrations are being canceled in Europe, are being threatened here in America. One through line and commonality to all of those cancellations and all of the threats and its radical Islamic terrorists who are trying to disrupt and murder peaceful Christians celebrating Christmas and members of Western civilization celebrating the New Year. But they want you dead. They want to disrupt. They want you to cancel those celebrations as many cities in France, excuse me, in Europe, have already done. And therefore, of course, they have a partial victory there. Their real victory isn't solidified until they murder you, of course, but we're going to talk about that, too. But I want to first start with this story that has all of DC buzzing. And I'm based in Washington, D.C. and so I feel like I can give you a little bit of extra insight from my analyst's chair here in your nation's capital about this interview that chief of Staff Susie Wiles gave to Vanity Fair that then got picked up in the New York Times. And this is a classic case of the media and the machine, the, the beast that is Washington, D.C. culture, taking this story and turning it into, well, something that it's not, and suggesting that in some way this is an existential moment for Susie Wiles and incredibly effective press Sec chief of staff and turning it into some scandal that it is not. That said, there are a lot of people to blame here. But most importantly, I want to know from you, who do you blame? If you know about this story, I'm about to fill you in on it. If you haven't heard about it. But if you've been watching cable news today, you know about this story. If you've been watching social media today, you know about this story. I'll give you the details. And if you already are, read up on it, I'd love to hear from you about who you blame. Who do you blame for this episode here where the chief of staff, Susie Wells, who doesn't give many interviews, has now revealed in this exclusive to Vanity Fair some really damaging and insulting things about her colleagues and the president himself. 877-381-3811 who's to blame for this. Is it Vanity Fair? Is it the New York Times? Is it social media? Is it Cable News? 877-381-3811. The world first got wind of this this morning because of a New York Times article. Listen to how this little feeding frenzy works. Susie Wiles grants an interview to Vanity Fair. And most specifically, a writer for Vanity Fair who, who has made a name for himself over the years interviewing chiefs of staff. And it's funny, these interviews, he even wrote a book, I believe, about chiefs of staff. And the interviews of chiefs of staff for Democrat presidents always are beautiful and glowing and positive and make superstars out of the chiefs of staff. And then the interviews of the chiefs of staff for Republican presidents always end up being huge controversies and incredibly damaging. It's shocking the way that works out, isn't it? And yet Susie Wiles, incredibly intelligent woman, granted this interview to this guy. But, but here's my favorite part. The interview goes to Vanity Fair, and then the New York Times gets an exclusive look at the interview. Now understand this, Susan. Susie Wiles did not give an interview to the New York Times. She gave several interviews to Vanity Fair. Vanity Fair then decided on the day that they published the interview that they would give the New York Times an exclusive look at their interview and their article so that the New York Times could then publish an article about the interview in Vanity Fair. It's like burger king giving McDonald's an exclusive look at their brand new Whopper recipe. This is not how most industries work when they have some level of competition, right? I mean, Vanity Fair and New York Times are in the same business. They're writing articles, they're selling advertisements on their websites and on their print editions. And the more viewers they get, the more readers they get, the better it is for them. Right? And it's like Fox News giving an exclusive to ABC News on an interview they did with someone in the White House. It makes no sense. Unless, of course, you realize that you can't look at these things as though it's some sort of typical industry or typical business or typical free market enterprise where you're trying to compete and win and get the more viewers and get the more customers and sell the more ads. No, no, no, that's not really their goal, is it? They're all on the same team. They're all on the same side. They all have the same interest in destroying conservatives, in destroying the Trump presidency. So Vanity Fair gives the New York Times an exclusive to look at their article so that it can get more Oxygen and more attention because ultimately their goal is, is to damage President Trump. I, I would guarantee you that more people have read about Vanity Fair's interview with Susie Wiles in the New York Times instead of in Vanity Fair, and Vanity Fair is fine with that because they're not really in business. They're activists. Now, I want you to hear this paragraph from the New York Times article this morning that went viral. It went crazy. It went nuts. This is all they talked about on Morning Joe show over there or on CNN or on George Stephanopoulos. It was this paragraph, and I am going to read you the paragraph and I'm going to deliberately tell you what is actually quoted from the Vanity Fair article versus how Peter Baker, the New York Times reporter, described what was in the Vanity Fair article. It's just one paragraph. Stick with me. Over the course of 11 interviews, Ms. Wiles offered pungent assessments of the President. Hold on a second. 11 interviews? She's only been the chief of staff for 11 months. What was this one interview a month? What? Yeah, I might be giving you a clue as to who I blame for all of this. I do want to hear who you blame. 877-381-3811. 11 interviews. What in God's name? Over the course of 11 interviews, Ms. Wiles offered pungent assessments of the President and his team. Mr. Trump, quote, has an alcoholic's personality, unquote. Vice President J.D. vance has, quote, been a conspiracy theorist for a decade, unquote, and his conversion from Trump critic to ally was based, not on principle, but was, quote, sort of political, unquote, because he was running for Senate. You get the picture here, right? We're almost done. Elon Musk is, quote, an avowed ketamine, unquote user and quote, an odd, odd duck, unquote, whose actions were not always, quote, rational, unquote, and I swear I'm not exaggerating it, and left her, quote, aghast, unquote, Russell T. Vote, the budget director, is, quote, a right wing, absolute zealot, unquote, and Attorney General Pam Bondi, quote, completely whiffed, unquote in handling the Epstein files. All right, so that paragraph right there, with this just machine gun, rapid fire blitz, the entire West Wing with as much ammo as possible destruction of the President, the Vice President, Elon Musk, Russell Vote, the OMB director and the Attorney General, all in just that one little paragraph that got all of Washington D.C. ablaze today. They love this stuff. The entire beast of Washington loves this stuff. And I gotta tell you, When I saw this, it raised some eyebrows. Geez, Susie Wiles, what the heck? But you noticed how the vast majority of this paragraph in the New York Times characterizing their exclusive look at the Vanity Fair interview, the vast majority of it is not actually direct quotes from the article. Now, we're going to dissect one of these quotes in a moment and really break it down for you. Specifically, it's the one concerning President Trump with a alcoholic's personality. Boy, that's pretty damaging. Although anybody who knows anything about President Trump knows that he doesn't touch alcohol or drugs or anything that would alter his mind. And so, you know there's more to that story, right? Of course. Now, if you have Trump derangement syndrome and you just hate the president, you relish this, you love it, and you don't think to another level about it and try to say, wait a second, that makes no sense. He doesn't drink. What does that even mean? It doesn't matter. It sounds bad. It sounds like an insult. So we're off to the races with it. All right, in a moment, I'm going to fill you in on the entire quote, the entire context of what Susie Wiles said. And also, by the way, J.D. vance, earlier today, he had a rally up in Pennsylvania and he was asked about this, and he responded brilliantly to the accusations that he is a conspiracy theorist for the past decade. Before we get to those two items, let me just dissect these other things real fast. Attorney General Pam Bondi completely whiffed in handling the Epstein files. Well, duh. How is that controversial? I bet if you asked Attorney General Pam Bondi, she would probably agree that the Epstein files matter was not handled perfectly, to say the least. Remember, she handed out the binders to influencers. Not radio hosts, not journalists, not broadcasters, not writers, not people who have supported President Trump from a thoughtful perspective. And in a. No, no, no, that doesn't matter anymore. We just want influencers. So she handed out binders to influencers. And of course, the binders that contained what we were told was Epstein data had nothing in it. Of course, it was a whiff. It was terrible. And I think that everyone in the world knows that there's nothing controversial about Susie Wells saying that Russ Vogt, the budget director, is a right wing, absolute zealot. Well, I mean, he would probably quibble with the word zealot because that sounds a little disparaging. But I mean, ultimately guilty. I mean, that's why I want him on that wall. He's one of the most effective members of the President's cabinet because he's right wing. I mean, that's hardly a criticism. Elon Musk, this is my favorite one. Elon Musk and ketamine user. He's said that already publicly. And then Elon Musk is described as an odd, odd duck. Well, that's a huge revelation, isn't it? I mean, set my hair on fire with that one. Who doesn't think Elon Musk is an odd duck? Elon Musk's mom would admit that her son is an odd duck. You know what? You try to be the richest man on the planet and invent a brand new multi gajillion dollar electric car and then invent an entire fleet of rockets that can blast off into space and then re land on the planet with an eventual dream of getting to Mars. Try not being an odd duck when your brain works that way. So we've broken down every sort of quote unquote disparaging commentary on members of the cabinet except for the President and the Vice President. We'll get to those in a moment. But honestly, what's the damage here? Well, the damage is what was said about the President. And we're going to give you the details and the context and the real quote on that in just one moment. My name is Larry o'. Connor. This is the Mark Levin Show. Mark Levin.
Mark Levin
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Larry O'Connor
Susie Wiles is the chief of staff to the President. She's been in the Eye of the storm today. I just want you to know, every single Cabinet secretary, it appears has come out and said, susie Wells is great. She's wonderful. She's the best. A real sign of solidarity. She gave this interview 11 sit downs with Vanity Fair, and now it's become this brouhaha, this kerfuffle. As she put out a statement. She said, the article published earlier this morning is a disingenuously framed hit piece on me and the finest president, White House staff and cabinet in history. Significant context was disregarded and much of what I and others said about the team and the president was left out of the story. I assume after reading it that this was done to paint an overwhelmingly chaotic and negative narrative about the president and our team. The truth is, the Trump White House has already accomplished more in 11 months than any president has accomplished in eight years. And that is due to the unmatched leadership and vision of President Trump, for whom I have been honored to work for the better part of a decade. None of this will stop our relentless pursuit of making America great again. Okay, so who do you blame for this? Vanity Fair, New York Times, mainstream media, liberal left infighting in the White House? Is it Stephen Miller? Is it J.D. vance? Is it Marco Rubio? Is it Ron DeSantis? Or maybe a little closer to home there for Ms. Wiles. 877-381-3811. Your call's next.
Mark Levin
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Larry O'Connor
This is the show The New York Times is afraid of Mark Levin. Call him now at 877-381-3811. Larry O' Connor in for March 11. We're talking about the story that has all of D.C. abuzz. A lot of it is completely unfair, blown out of context, completely hyperbolic and frankly, stupid. Susie Wells, chief of staff of the White House, gave 11 interviews to a writer for Vanity Fair. New York Times sort of condensed it into a summary because they had an exclusive look at the interview and they characterized Susie Wells comments as saying Mr. Trump, quote, has an alcoholics personality, unquote. And Vice President J.D. vance has, quote, been a conspiracy theorist for a decade, unquote. And his conversion from Trump critic to ally was based not on principle, but was, quote, sort of political, unquote. Because he was running for Senate. By the way, everything you do when you're running for Senate is sort of political. That's sort of the nature of the beast. It's called politics. Susie Wells, for her part, is angry. She put out a statement saying that the article was, quote, disingenuously framed, hit piece with significant context disregarded. And much of what I and others said about the team and the president was left out of the story. If you notice something about her statement, though she never said that she didn't say the things that the article says she said it was just disingenuously framed with context disregarded. And I'm going to provide context specifically on the statement about Donald Trump having an alcoholic's personality. But I do want to hear from you. And we'll start with Sandy, line one, El Centro, California. That's Spanish for the Centro. Sandy, thanks for calling. Who do you blame for this debacle here?
Caller
From all accounts, Susie Wiles is very smart.
Larry O'Connor
Yes.
Caller
But for how many years have we known what the media's like, known that the media would write the article before they even interviewed her 11 times and then they would just insert it's her fault, she shouldn't have done it. And this is what makes me angry. Not because your analysis is excellent and I follow President Trump on truth social. It's not going to affect me. But I want our movement to grow. I want more people to join us. I don't want people to be persuaded by the stupidity from New York Times and Vanity Fair by hearing a snippet on the news at night, you know, in between trying to work or take care of kids.
Larry O'Connor
Yeah.
Caller
And it just makes me angry that somebody that's so doggone smart, by all accounts, maybe she thought her brilliance Maybe she thought all of a sudden the media would be nice to us Republicans, to President Trump. That isn't going to happen.
Larry O'Connor
Yeah, I mean, listen, that's a lot of maybes. And you're right. That all may be true. And you know, you're absolutely right, Sandy, because ultimately this is Susie Wells fault and I like her and I think she's smart. And by the way, because she's so smart, it makes me wonder what's really going on here. Because nobody as smart as Susie Wiles says, you know what? I'm going to sit with Vanity Fair and I'm going to be completely honest and forthright and I'm going to say all these things about the Cabinet because they'll treat me fairly and I know they'll treat President Trump fairly. There's no chance. Nobody's that stupid, Sandy. Thank you for that. And by the way, you're right. I don't want people to just hear snippets of this and then get discouraged and get upset and get blackpilled on this and get angry. I'm drawing attention to this for a couple of reasons. There are lessons to be learned here. Number one. Number two, I'm utilizing the long form medium of talk radio to be able to actually provide context, more than just one snippet pulled out of context. But what is Susie, is Susie Wiles surprised? The Vanity Fair in the New York Times disingenuously framed her quotes and disregarded significant context, as she said in her statement. Is that surprising? And if it is surprising, she should probably just pack it up. But I truly do think there's more at play here. I really do. Jerry in Sarasota, Florida. That's line two with Jerry. Hey, Jerry, what do you think of this debacle?
Caller
Well, I am a former corpsman with the Marines and the one thing we were taught was know your enemy. And she should have known walking into those camps what was she was going to be facing.
Larry O'Connor
Yeah.
Caller
And regardless of how things were framed in or out of context, they should have never been set in the first place. Yeah. Period. We have the right people in places to do the things that we need to do and to advance the agenda as it needs to advance. And for her to come and sort of just go behind all of that's like trying to pull the rug out from under somebody for a reason. And, you know, who knows?
Larry O'Connor
Wonder. You wonder. Yeah.
Caller
You know, and you know, I don't want to go off topic, but I have a question for you. Maybe you can answer is with all.
Larry O'Connor
The.
Caller
Liberal courts going against everything that our agenda is trying to do. Why doesn't, since we are under invasion, why doesn't the president just suspend habeas corpus and take care of the problem?
Larry O'Connor
Well, you were talking about the immigration problem or are you talking about the.
Caller
Well, we're, yeah, everything.
Larry O'Connor
Or those that are unvetted and are in this country right now. Well, Jerry, I'll tell you, and I appreciate the call and thank you for your service as a Marine. My son in law, my brand new son in law is a Marine, active duty. So semper fi, sir. Thank you for that call. I think suspending habeas corpus is a pretty drastic measure, I think, considering I believe it's only been done once before during the actual Civil War by President Lincoln. And I don't think it's reached that point necessarily yet, Jerry, but that's just me talking. Mark Levin, as the great One and as the constitutional and law expert that he is, may have a different perspective on it, but you're absolutely right. At no point should anyone who works for any Republican president, certainly not President Donald Trump, should think to themselves, you know what, giving 11 exclusive sit down interviews one on one with a writer for Vanity Fair is ultimately going to be a good thing for us. There's no way this ends well. I'm frankly more embarrassed by her statement with this, this implied shock that the article was disingenuously framed with significant context, disregarded of of course it was. That's what they do if they're not just outright lying. I, I do want to address though, and provide context for this one statement, which is incredibly damaging if you don't know the actual background of it and what Susie Wiles actually said. Again, the New York Times framing It says Mr. Trump, quote, has an alcoholic's personality. Now that on itself sounds horrible, but it also doesn't quite sound right considering the fact that President Trump doesn't drink alcohol, famously. So what does that mean? Well, instead of reading the New York Times synopsis in their own exclusive, exclusive look at the article, since they didn't actually sit for the interviews, let's go to the actual interview from Vanity Fair. Now, I'm going to read you exactly what that has the personality of an alcoholic statement meant. Has an alcoholic's personality. This White House under Ms. Wiles is chaotic, just in a different way. Unlike John Kelly, the President's longest serving chief of staff in his first term, who saw his job as trying to prevent what he considered radical, unwise or even illegal actions, Ms. Wiles does not view her role as constraining Mr. Trump. Instead, she makes clear that her mission is to facilitate his his desires, even if she sometimes think he is going too far. Let me stop there for a moment. I read that paragraph and I don't think for a second that Susie Wiles is the bad guy here. Buried lead. John Kelly, the man who was chief of staff of the White House in the first term, believed his job was to prevent the president from getting things done. What kind of chief of staff is that? Why is it headline news that the current chief of staff believes that her mission is to facilitate the president's desires? You know, after all, we, the American people, elected him to get a job done. Remember when you were really frustrated during the first term, it's like, why can't Trump get stuff done? He's trying to, but he just can't get things done. I don't understand it. We elected him, he said he was going to do this, and now we can't get it done. Well, now we're learning that his chief of staff saw his job as to prevent radical, unwise, or even illegal actions. Yeah, illegal, sure. You find the right judge. Me talking on the radio is illegal. If you find the right judge. All right, moving on. She attributes her ability to work for Mr. Trump to growing up with an alcoholic father, the sportscaster Pat Summerall. Now, here's the full quote, because you remember the New York Times quoted four words, has an alcoholic's personality. That was the full quote from the New York Times, four words in describing President Trump. Now here's the actual quote, beginning with this quote. High functioning alcoholics or alcoholics in general, their personalities are exaggerated when they drink, she said. And so I'm a little bit of an expert in big personalities. Now, again, the alcoholic reference had to do with her father, the late sportscaster, who apparently was an alcoholic. I never knew that summer. While Mr. Trump does not drink, the article continues. She said he has, quote, an alcoholic's personality and operates with a view that there's nothing he can't do. Nothing. Zero, nothing. Now imagine if the New York Times, in characterizing what Susie Wiles, the chief of staff of the White House, said in describing President Trump. Imagine if the New York Times said, Ms. Wiles said of Mr. Trump, he thinks there's nothing he can't do. They could have pulled that quote. They could have done that. They could have said that Susie Wells thinks the president operates with a view that there's nothing he can't do. Nothing. Zero, nothing. That's positive. That's almost flattering and probably pretty accurate. He certainly behaves that way, doesn't he? It's what you want in a president or a chief executive of any major corporation or large concern. You see, Susie Wiles was trying to say of the President that he operates as if there's nothing he can't do. But she compared it to living with her father, who was an alcoholic and had the same outlook on life. Although we know President Trump doesn't drink. You see what they did it. Of course you do, because it's what they do. The question is, why couldn't Susie Wiles figure that out? Unless she did this on purpose. And I'm open to that suggestion. I don't know why she would, but I'm open to that suggestion. Now, earlier today, J.D. vance, the Vice President of the United States, was doing a appearance, rally style, at a business up in Pennsylvania, talking about the President's economic agenda, affordability and all that jazz. And as he often does at the podium, he allows reporters in the crowd to ask him questions, sort of like a impromptu mini press conference. It's always very entertaining the way he handles the press and the crowd usually loves it. So this reporter wanted to bring up what Susie Wells had said about him, that he was a conspiracy theorist. So JD Vance responded to that.
Caller
Sir?
Larry O'Connor
Well, first of all, if, if, if Susie, as like, I'll, I'll trust, I'll trust what you said. I haven't looked at the article. I, of course have heard about it, but. Conspiracy theorist. Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe in the conspiracy, conspiracy theories that are true. And, and by the way, Susie and I have joked in private and in public about that for a long time. For example, I believed in the crazy conspiracy theory back in 2020, that it was stupid to mask 3 year olds at the height of the COVID pandemic, that we should actually let them develop some language, language skills. You know, I believed in this crazy conspiracy theory that the media and the government were covering up the fact that Joe Biden was clearly unable to do the job. And I believed in the conspiracy theory that Joe Biden was trying to throw his political opponents in jail rather than win an argument against this political opponent. So. At least on some of these conspiracy theories, it turns out that a conspiracy theory is just something that was true six months before the media admitted it. And that's, that's my understanding. Now. Look, I, I, I, I do want to say something about Susie though, because again, having not read this article, Susie is a person I've come to know very, very well. And, you know, a lot of you probably under ask yourself, what is it like behind the scenes? What's going on actually behind the scenes of the Trump administration? And I'll tell you, the president is exactly in private who he is in public. Like, I'll tell you a little story, a few maybe we can get to the story a little later in the show. But he addressed the conspiracy theory pretty well there, didn't he? That's the way it's done. That's how you handle the media. That's your vice president, J.D. vance. All right, a little bit more on this before we turn the page a bit and talk about the radical Islamists who want to, well, destroy Western civilization, starting with Christmas and New Year's. We'll get to that in a bit. First, though, Joe Online two in Woodbridge. We will get to you in just a second. You're our next call. You stay right where you are. I'm Larry o'. Connor. It's the Mark Levin Show. Mark Levin.
Mark Levin
Folks, I have a question for you. Do you believe America's best days are still ahead with the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence coming up in less than a year? My friends at the Heritage foundation are taking stock of the current situation and they need your input. They've launched a survey on America's future to gauge how America's feel right now about where we are as a nation and where we're headed in the next 250 years. You know, for decades, your American values have been under attack. But now we're President Trump's administration in office. We have an opportunity to turn the tide and usher in a new golden age for America. But the Heritage foundation needs to hear from you. What policies do patriots like you most care about? What do you believe are the defining principles of America? What legacy do you believe we should pass on to the next Generation? Please visit heritage.orglevin today and share your feedback and help shape the future of America. That's heritage.org Levin paid for by the Heritage Foundation.
Larry O'Connor
Yeah, we're celebrating Christmas as long as we still can. You know, getting Christmas canceled. But Western European nations will address that coming up in a bit. Joe in Woodbridge, Virginia. Joe, thanks for listening. On the mighty wmal. What do you think of this kerfuffle?
Caller
Hey, good evening, Larry. Hey.
Larry O'Connor
A little different.
Caller
Take number one. I believe that there's no doubt that Donald Trump approved this. Of these series of interviews with Vanity Fairs, Susie Wiles would not conduct those interviews without his approval. And based on that, I honestly believe, I have a sneaky suspicion that this is just another genius idea of Donald Trump to troll the media and beat them at their own game. I mean, when I heard it, when I heard it, I was suspicious from the get go. I mean, the things that were said were almost comical, you know, alcoholic J.D. vance, conspiracy theorists. I mean, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump said, hey, say, if you say a few cute things, let them run with it. You know, let's make them look stupid.
Larry O'Connor
And because a 4D chess move here is what you're saying, Joe. All right, all right, listen. It could be true. It could be true. I. I want that to be true. I don't want to think that Susie Wells is so naive that she thought for a second that giving 11 interviews to a reporter from Vanity Fair was going to end up well and that they wouldn't take her out of context. I want that to be true. It's Larry o'. Connor. It's the Mark Levitt Show.
Mark Levin
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Caller
He's here.
Larry O'Connor
He's here now. Broadcasting from the underground command post deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker somewhere under the brick and steel of a nondescript building, we've once again made contact with our leader. My name's Larry o'. Connor. I'm sitting in for the great one, Mark Levin. Think of me as a funnier, more entertaining version of Piers Morgan without the, you know, accent that makes you kind of sound gay, frankly. I mean, I know there are straight British people, but for the most part, right? Am I wrong? Tell me I'm wrong. You know I'm right. I'm the morning show host on WMAL in Washington, D.C. that would be your nation's capital. And I also do a daily show at noon. It's a livestream podcast that you can get on video platforms and podcast platforms anywhere you want. It's called Larry. Look it up. You'll love it. And I'm proud to say that I did not make media ites list of the most influential people in news media. That's a badge of honor. I'll be honest with you. Mark Levin, though, did make it because he can't help himself. He's just that good. Thanks for tuning in here and I would love to hear from you at 877-381-3811-877-3813 811. I don't know if you've noticed, but there's a string of terror attacks or thwarted terror attacks that all seem to have a couple of things in common. And we're talking about attacks around the world. I mean almost every continent. Australia still counts as a continent, doesn't it? You saw the horrific, despicable Hanukkah massacre on the beach in Sydney in a country that has confiscated firearms from everyday Australians. So these radical Islamists who have ties to isis father and son team. Isn't that quaint? What do you want to do today, dad? You know, want to go shopping? Want to go to a Australian Rules football maybe fishing?
Caller
No, no.
Larry O'Connor
You know what, let's. Let's go full jihad and murder innocent people, including a 10 year old girl. The Jews in Australia that were celebrating Hanukkah, celebrating the Maccabees miracle when they cleansed the temple from being defiled by the Greeks, reconsecrated it and lit their lamps with only one day's worth of oil, but it lasted eight days. Yeah, I know my Maccabees. I'm a Catholic. We've got that book in our Bible, thank you very much. Those incredible innocent families were slaughtered on Saturday on the first day of Hanukkah. Yesterday in Los Angeles, the FBI announced that they had thwarted an attack planned in Orange county and Los Angeles county for New Year's Eve. These were people connected to something called the Order of the Black Lotus and the Turtle Island Liberation Front. By the way, Turtle island is what they claim Native Americans refer to as the North American continent. Yeah, they want to liberate the North American continent from us. These people were also jihadists, Hamas supporting anti Israelis, anti Americans who have a track record of protesting in the streets. All those protesters that you see wearing the, you know, the terrorist handkerchief there that Yasser Arafat made famous. All those protesters who have those signs, they look exactly like these four who were just arrested for planning a bombing in Southern California for New Year's Eve. German police just today prevented a mass terror attack against a Christmas market in the city of Magdeburg. Now I know you're thinking, wait a second, no, we heard that story. That's not from today. No, this is another Christmas market. And by the way, if you don't know, and we hear the term Christmas market here in America and I think we might, you know, imagine that it's like some sort of flea market or something or people come out on the street, like a swap meet or something and you know, people go Christmas shopping. No, go ahead and take a look. Use your favorite search engine On Christmas markets in Germany, they are epic. They are huge. They are extravagant. They've been doing these for decades, centuries really, in the Christian nation of Germany, they go all in on celebrating Christmas. These extravagant light displays and celebrations and singing and performances. It's all to celebrate the birth of the Messiah, their Lord Jesus Christ. And well, it was a target. It was a target. Last year, by the way, a Saudi Arabian, Taleb Al Abdul Mohsin plowed his vehicle into the Christmas market killing six, wounding hundreds. And now they have thwarted another terror attack. 21 year old from Central Asia arrested on suspicion of an Islamist motivated terror attack. That's in Germany today. In Poland, Polish authorities stopped an ISIS inspired planned attack on a Christmas market there. Incredibly Catholic and devout nation. Poland, Also in Germany, five men, 56 year old Egyptian imam, three Moroccans age 22, 28 and 30 and a 37 year old Syrian arrested just Friday near Subed in Bavaria's Dingofing Landau district. Prosecutors say they plotted an Islamist motivated attack to kill or injure as many people as possible at a local Christmas market. You seeing the pattern of behavior here. And then in France? Well, in France, because they've already had such a string of attacks this year, France is just doing their preemptive strike. Paris has cancelled their New Year's Eve concert on the Champs Elysees because of security fears. You know where the Arc de Triomphe is there in Paris, pardon my French, or lack thereof. On any given New Year's Eve, you'll have upwards to a million or more Parisians and other Europeans and Americans and tourists from all around the world going to the City of Lights to celebrate the new Year. You've seen the fireworks displays there. If you watch, you know, Dick Clark's Rockin Eve, I guess it's Ryan Seacrest's Rockin Eve now or any of the other New Year's Eve programming that they have out there. They always do the worldwide look. Let's look at what New Year's Eve looked like in Paris. And they have this great display with all the fireworks and the light show on the Eiffel Tower and the Arc de Triomphe. Oh, they're going to do it this year. But good luck finding a crowd of Parisians celebrating New Year's Eve. They're on Their own. They got to go, you know, sit on the hood of their car or open up their window and try to sneak a peek of the Eiffel Tower. But Paris authorities don't want them anywhere near the downtown area, certainly not gathering in crowds, lest they become targets of a terror attack. I love the way this was framed, though. The headline, paris cancels New Year's Eve concert over security fears. Be more specific. Well, you know, these kind of public gatherings are. Well, they're a security threat. A threat from whom? Be specific. Show your work. Funny thing about terrorists. They. They have two goals. They want to murder you. Goes without saying. And if possible, if they murder you while destroying some edifice or representation of your culture, all the better. Their second, not quite as important goal is to terrify you. Hence the name terrorist. They want you as an individual, or you with your family, or you with your religious group, or you as a nation. They want you terrified. You see, they hate seeing a Christmas market. So, yes, they want to kill as many Christians as possible celebrating Christmas at the Christmas market. But even better, if they kill enough Christians on a regular basis at the Christmas markets, then you will cancel the Christmas markets because you value life. You see, they do not. They will keep killing you and killing you and killing you. And even if they have to kill you with a suicide vest and blow themselves up, as long as they keep killing you until you alter your behavior and succumb, bow to their will. And that's what we are seeing here now, in Germany, in most of the cities that have these celebrated Christmas markets, they've taken the interim step. They have added bunkers, concrete blocks, partitions, security up the wazuli gates, metal detectors. They've cordoned off the Christmas market so that there's only certain points of entry. So you have to go through security to get in. The roads that run around the perimeter of the Christmas markets are lined with planters and concrete bunkers and pylons. So if somebody wanted to drive their car into it, well, it would reduce the damage done, certainly by slowing them down. That's the interim step. You know how the famous psychologists back in the 60s had the. The stages of grief, right? Anger, denial, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. This is similar. This is. This is the delusion that you can put up enough security to stop these things from happening. And we live that way right now when we want to go on a airplane, right, or to a football game or pretty much anywhere. I mean, I Live in Washington, D.C. try going somewhere without having to first pass through a medical device. Detector, you cannot go and exercise your constitutional right to petition your government and meet with your duly elected representative in your nation's capital without first submitting to a metal detector and an X ray machine for whatever is in your backpack or in your purse. And that ain't because of any domestic terror threat. No siree, it ain't. We know when those provisions were put in place. You cannot drive around your nation's capital in the way that you used to anymore. There are certain streets that have been completely blocked off with these same barriers, with these same pylons, with the same kind of concrete partitions I'm looking at right now in a German Christmas market. You can't enjoy your nation's capital the way it was designed, and it ain't no American's fault. Meanwhile, in these same cities that have now canceled these religious celebrations. And by the way, New Year's Eve, even though it's taken on a secular tone, was originally a Christian holiday and observation. It's the Christian calendar we're celebrating, after all, with that New Year's. In my faith, it is a day of obligation. You go to church. There is a reason why these religious celebrations are being canceled. There is a reason why the intervening bargaining, depression, denial of added security measures are being put in place for these events. We know the reason, and we know who they are, and we know why they wreak terror on us. The fascinating little wrinkle this year as you look at this growing tide of either terror attacks or thwarted terror attacks in just the last seven days. The new wrinkle this year is that these countries, France and Germany, in Australia, in the United Kingdom, and right here in America, we are coming to the realization that these terrorists who are trying to murder us as we celebrate our faith and our civilization, these terrorists did not sneak in. They were welcomed. And anytime you raise that fact, stand up in the back of the room and say, hey, guys, maybe we should rethink our policy here. Because all the people who have flooded in here, a good chunk of them seem to want to do us harm. You know, maybe not only should we change the policy, but all the people who have been let in here that we've been told were thoroughly vetted and screened, maybe we should probably reexamine that process and go through, let's call it a re vetting process, reevaluate whether they should be here or whether we want them to stay. The second you're that guy who stands up in the back of the room and says that, well, you're the problem because Diversity is our strength. I mean, just look at how great it's working out. More on this in a moment. I'm Larry o'. Connor. It's the Mark Levin Show. Mark Levin.
Mark Levin
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Larry O'Connor
Larry o' Connor Here in for the Great One, Mark Levin and I It brings me no pleasure to detail all the terror attacks, retwegted terror attacks in Western Europe, here in the US And Australia that we've had to endure over the last handful of days. But something's up, clearly. Thank God our FBI thwarted this latest attack. But are we not allowed to draw attention to what we see with our very eyes? Are we not allowed to demand that our government actually go through and sort of reevaluate what in the hell happened for the last four plus years at a time where we're coming up on the 25th anniversary of September 11th and we're acting like it never happened. I mean, just get rid of the security at our airports at this point. Why bother? All invited in with open arms, half of them on benefits right now. We just had a National Guardsman murdered in Washington D.C. by an Afghan refugee. And if you dare suggest that maybe we should rethink that policy. Well, diversity is our strength. All right. Well, I want to hear from you what needs to happen here. We're going to start with Tony in Clifton, New Jersey on wabc. We'll talk to you next. I'm Larry o'. Connor. It's the Mark Levin Show.
Mark Levin
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Larry O'Connor
Mark Levin, the research arm of conservative media. Call in now. 877-381-1381. It's true, Mark Levin is tall. Strangely tall, absurdly tall, shockingly tall actually, if you've ever met him face to face. Larry o' Connor is sitting in for the great one, Mark Levin. He does some people just look smaller on tv. Mark is very tall. Thank you for tuning in this evening and we're gonna get to your calls in a moment. I wanna take a moment, as they say in the Senate, a moment of personal privilege, if I may. I'm going to mention someone that I know you've heard of before because Mark has mentioned him on the air many times. His name is Bill Hess. He's the program director for my radio station, WMAL. He's had that position for over 15 years. In fact, he predated me right before I got there is when he got the job as the program director in Washington D.C. he's had incredible success in his 48 year career. One of his greatest achievements was hiring me, by the way. But I'll set that aside for a moment because it was announced today that Bill Hess, a true legend in the talk radio industry, will be retiring at the end of this year. He's hanging up the headphones for good though. I don't know if he's worn headphones for a while. The end of this year will be his, will be his final days at WMAL and professionally in the radio business. And I just, I make note of this and I wanted to borrow some of Mark Levin's show to sort of announce this and pay him honor and homage because I know Mark would as well. Mark has said glowing things about Bill here on the show and privately with me as well, and to our community in Washington, D.C. everything you know about the Washington, D.C. talk radio business and really much of what you know of talk radio in America has been formed and modeled after Bill Hess's principles. Dignity, value and approach to inform with integrity and to entertain and make sure that you, the listener, is always put in the primary focus for those of us behind the microphone. And our industry is going to miss him dearly. And it just won't be the same without Bill Hess every single day. Being there is kind of a North Star for so many of us in the industry. So wanted to pay a bit of a tribute to a man whose name you probably have heard, but his influence certainly you have felt probably in many cases without ever knowing it. Bill hess ending his 48 year radio career at the end of December 2025. Now to your calls here on the Mark Levin Show. Tony in Clifton, New Jersey on the mighty WABC in Neoc. Hey, Tony, thanks for calling in.
Caller
Hi, Larry. So I'd like to thank you for being with us tonight. And I want to add to our vice President's list conspiracies, which I think is so to the moment. So the conspiracy that I would like to add to J.D. vance's list is that the Democratic Party does not value human lives as seen in their practices and policies of promoting antisemitism, residivism, unvetting of illegals which have led to, to the death of our American citizens. And this is something that in spite of all that President Trump has done and his administration building is on. And I know why, Larry, if I could just say that and then go ahead, I'll drop off and I want to hear your comments. This is because the Democratic Party does not value human life. And they have in place in our Congress, in our Senate, throughout our government, the same people who led with Joe Biden in his administration. And so what President Trump has done to eliminate a lot of the problems in our government is to stop funding. My proposal is that when we look at all those states, the blue states, Rhode island in Providence, where this horrible thing happened at the university, was all blue across the board. When you look at this, you have to say no funding for you. And also anyone who serves in Congress in Senate should not be allowed to serve. They should be censured from serving on any committees because you are putting Americans in danger. And you are a liability to our country. And you do not value the human life of American citizens. You prefer to value and protect the citizenry of illegal who have no citizenship. And that's my thought for tonight. Larry.
Larry O'Connor
Well, Tony, thank you for the call and I'm glad you got to express yourself. Listen, it's hard to see the priorities of politicians on the left and not wonder exactly where they put the value of human life compared to their other priorities. That's for sure. And the value of life seems to be equivocated and in many respects put on the back burner toward their higher goals. I mean, just look at the, look at our neighbors to the north in Canada when you look at what their priorities are. And listen, I love Canadians. They're great, they're wonderful people, they really are. But they keep voting and electing a government that is just a complete and total basket case. It may be, I could be wrong, but it may be why they haven't really touched a Stanley cup in about three decades. You know, you get your priorities straight on some things and then hockey falls into place. That's what I've learned. Look at Florida. Florida, for crying out loud, has the Stanley Cup. They like to believe that they are humanists up there in Canada. I do love people who are, who are secular and who don't have faith and who don't believe in God and don't believe in our holy scriptures and a Judeo Christian outlook on life. They like to call themselves humanists as if they value humans, as if in some way they are superior in their love and affection for human beings versus those of us, you know, our dark ages and medieval adherence to holy scripture. You know, we don't really value human life. And yet the humanists are the ones who come up with a health care system that they like to celebrate as free. When you get sick and can't see a doctor or a specialist or get an MRI for months and months and months on end, but hey, it's free. Where I'm sure you saw the story of the woman with a chronic disease, but she has the unfortunate luck of living in Saskatchewan. And in the rural area that she's in, there's no specialist that can see her and treat her, but hey, her health insurance is free. And so then she was referred to the closest specialist. She reached out to them and the specialist said, I'm sorry, I don't have any room to take any new patients, and this woman's going to die if she doesn't see a specialist, but hey, her health insurance is free. And so she calls the government and she says what am I supposed to do? I'm going to die. And the specialist you referred me to will not see me because they're already full. What should I do? And that free health care from the Canadian government felt her pain and said we're so sorry. That's really bad luck. Hey. But the good news is we can help you kill yourself. You qualify for that coverage and after all, you're gonna die anyway. So let's just jump feet first in with euthanasia. And of course the euthanasia protocol in Canada that was sold to the Canadian people who I do believe in their hearts are good people. Just, you know, as humanists, they have sort of lost sight of humanity. The euthanasia protocols in Canada were sold to the Canadian people just as they're starting to be sold here in America to American people state by state as the compassionate and merciful thing to do to somebody who has a chronic illness, somebody who's suffering, who has an incurable disease and they feeling nothing but pain. Why are you so cold hearted? Why not just let them have doctor assisted suicide as they like to call it, so that they can just end their misery and relieve themselves of their pain. And you know, Canadians are just like good hearted, well intentioned Americans. We think to ourselves, well of course I don't want anyone to suffer. I certainly don't want anyone who is in such desperate need and is needlessly suffering and they have no hope of a cure and their days are numbered anyway. Sure, sure, sure, a nice peaceful doctor assisted suicide, that's humane. That's the moral thing to do. That's the right thing to do. It's sold that way. And I have very good friends who, whose heart is in the right place who will argue with me about that and say how dare you? Who were you to say that somebody can't kill themselves? They've got terminal cancer, there's no hope. The medical industry and the pharmaceutical industry is going to put them on radiation and chemotherapy. That's no way to live. If they want to die with dignity, let them die with dignity. And I, I get that, I do, I really do. And even though I certainly don't support suicide, it's against my faith. I want to be blunt and say the fact of the matter is that people have been committing suicide for, well, since existence and you don't need a doctor if you're really intent on killing yourself. I'm pretty sure you could Figure it out. Why do we as a society have to endorse it? Why do we have to pay for it and have doctors who are supposed to be there to cure people and help people, now add to their list of services, we will kill people as well. But in Canada, they passed it and that's how they sold it. Be merciful. Let people out of their misery. And now in a very short time, you've got people being prescribed doctor assisted suicide in Canada because they have depression. And who are you to say that somebody's depressed, can't put themselves out of their misery? Why are you so cold and calculated and so inhumane? Where's your mercy? So, Tony, I guess to respond to what you had to say, you never know what's in people's hearts. You never know what their intentions are. You can only judge them by their results. And when you look at the path that the political left in America is leading us toward, when you see the results of their policies in our inner cities, in our urban school systems, when you see their priorities of where they want to put money, where they want to draw the line, when you look at the groups that they go fundraising with, like Narol and Planned Parenthood, when you see their great white north utopia in Canada with the model health system that they keep bragging about and wanting to adopt here in America, and you see the end results as I just laid out for you. You know what, Tony? In Clifton, New Jersey, it's kind of hard not to agree with you. It's kind of hard not to reach the conclusion that, yeah, they don't really value life and they don't deserve to have that kind of political power over us in this nation. All right, we'll take more of your calls in a moment. I'm Larry o', Connor. This is the Mark Levin Show. Mark Levin.
Mark Levin
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Larry O'Connor
Larry o' Connor in for Mark Levin. I just want to button up that story. I was doing it off the top of my head. So I want to give you the details. The woman in Canada, her name is Jolene Van Alsteen. She was approved for doctor assisted suicide after her providence admitted no surgeons or endocrinologists were available to treat her hyperparathyroidism, which is a fully treatable condition. But Canada has a collapsing system. Glenn Beck, by the way, our colleague in talk radio here in America, heard about the story, stepped in, offered to pay for her surgery in America. Surgeons immediately volunteered to help. And it looks like she's going to get the treatment that she needs here in the US but she had over a 30 week wait for a specialist and then couldn't get the referral to the specialist. Despite the 30 week wait. And she was offered euthanasia, she was offered suicide. Jolene Van Alsteen, say a prayer for her as she seeks her treatment and thank Glenn Beck for stepping in on that. But that's a very real story that I wanted to share with you and give you the details on. All right, let's continue here now with how about Jason in Kensington, Maryland? Jason, thanks for calling in. It's Larry o' Connor in for Mark Levin.
Caller
Hi, Larry. Hey, going right.
Larry O'Connor
Oh, it's Jason. Jason is a well known Australian who lives in the D.C. area. Area here. I'm on WMAL. Hey, Jason, merry Christmas.
Caller
Merry Christmas. Yeah, not too merry in Australia at the moment because of the, of course, the Bondi massacre. But yeah, a lot of unanswered questions there because I'm kind of familiar with Bondi, got some friends that live there and we still try to figure out why it took the police about 20 minutes to take these two guys down. I mean, 20 minutes is a long time.
Larry O'Connor
Yeah.
Caller
Be firing a gun and, and looking at the bridge that they were on, I'm kind of familiar with that bridge. And I can say if I was a civilian who could have carried a gun, which they took all of our guns off us a number of years ago, I would have definitely been able access them guys pretty quick and take them out in less than 20 minutes.
Larry O'Connor
Yeah. And Jason, I've seen those contemporary reports from the witnesses there who said that there were police there. I just want to be clear that everybody understands because Jason. English is Jason's second language. He's Australian. It's not that it took police 20 minutes to respond to a call for help and get there. The cops were there. They didn't do anything.
Caller
Yeah. You know, Bondi is probably the most iconic beach in Australian. The best beach was the most iconic one. But there's always police here because it's such a big tourist area. There's always police there. And, I mean, this is what gets me. The police in Australia had no problem taking down a guy who was walking outside his house on an off day on. During the COVID crisis. I mean, you know, they had, they were. They were there within minutes. Someone would call and they'd take this guy down. He's having a cigarette on his porch, and then cops are there, have him on the ground. But it's like there's just something fishy about this whole thing. And of course, our prime minister, who was probably. Probably Joe Biden on steroids, he's terrible. I mean, he. He's basically come out and said, we're going to change the gun laws, which are already the strictest on the planet.
Larry O'Connor
I mean, Jason, can you shed some light on that? Because I saw, I saw your prime minister say that, and I saw the, The, I guess they call him the governor or the President of New South Wales say the same thing. What laws are there still to enact? I thought they pretty much confiscated guns in that country.
Caller
They did. They did. And that's the thing. We don't. We can't get guns. It's become so much of a pain or nuisance to be able to own a gun that, you know what we saw there? We saw that guy come out of the fruit shop and tackle the guy, and he grabbed the gun and pointed at him, and I'm sure he wanted to shoot him. But then he's probably thinking, you know what? I don't want to get arrested.
Larry O'Connor
Yeah. Well, listen, Jason, thank you for shedding some light on that as an Australian and knowing the lay of the land there. And please let the people of Australia know that we're thinking about them and we. We wish them the best this holiday season. Horrific terror there in Australia. All right, coming up next, we'll focus on this Brown University shooting and a big announcement from President Trump next.
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He's here. Now broadcasting them from the underground command post deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker somewhere under the brick and steel of a nondescript building, we've once again made contact with our leader, Mark Love in I'm Larry o'. Connor. I'm in for Mark Levin. Mark will be back tomorrow. By the way, I'm the morning show host on WMAL in Washington, D.C. a radio show called O' Connor & Co. That I co host with Julie Gunlock and Patrice on WUKA and a rotating band of merry characters. You can also catch me every day live at noon on video and streaming platforms that you love. YouTube, rumble, that sort of thing. I do that daily show at noon every day live for town hall media. Got a little bit more to catch up on here. 877-381-3811 as you and I have a conversation as well. Quick update on that New Year's Eve bomb plot that we talked about in the last hour that the FBI thwarted. A fifth person has now been arrested. According to the New York Post. Fifth person arrested New Year's Eve bombing plot is a Tran tifa Marine vet out to recreate Waco. 5th person arrested over an alleged New Year's Eve bombing plot by a far left terrorist group is a transgender Marine veteran who wanted to recreate Waco on ice agents, according to a criminal complaint on Sealed Tuesday Diversity is our strength. Diversity is what will keep our military strong too. Let's not forget Micah James Legnan, 29 years old, arrested in Louisiana Saturday after being tied to chats with suspected members of the far left terrorist group Turtle Island Liberation Front as they allegedly plotted to plant pipe bombs on businesses and then ICE agents, according to the FBI. Legman who went by Kateri the Witch and Dark Witch, she her in chat groups appeared to be planning an attack in New Orleans to coincide with others attacked in Southern California, according to the complaint. Legnan shared pictures of assault rifles and body armor. Federal agents found sniper training manuals, SWAT training manuals, assault rifles, multiple, multiple rounds of ammunition that's in a raid on the suspect's home in New Iberia, according to the complaint. Legnan also posted a story on Facebook on December 4 that called Border Patrol agents masked Fs, according to the complaint. Time to recreate Waco, Texas with these effers F ICE the extremist road the FBI took as a threat to recreate the 1993 massacre by David Koresh's Davidians ended with four agents and more than 70 civilians killed. Yes, Micah James Legnan, who also went by Kateri the Witch and Dark Witch, she her member of what they call Tran tifa. We have a problem in this country, my friends. We have a serious problem. And I'm getting pretty sick and tired of being lectured to and and demonized every time I point out that this stuff ain't normal. Meantime, President Trump has made an announcement. He will be addressing the nation tomorrow night at 9pm and it's pretty good that he waited until after the Mark Levin show. I think we all appreciate that he said that he will be addressing the American people from the White House. He said, my fellow Americans, I'll be giving an address to the nation tomorrow night live from the White House at 9:00pm Eastern Standard Time. I look forward to seeing you then. It has been a great year for our country and the best is yet to come. Now, the White House press secretary, Caroline Levitt, was on Fox News earlier and said that President Trump will be addressing the country about all of his historic accomplishments over the past year and maybe teasing some policy that will be coming in the new year as well, which is fine. Although it's not common for a president to use a White House address in primetime to just sort of talk about what's gone on in the past year and talk about what he plans to do in the coming year. That's not typical. But this is not a typical president, nor is It a typical administration. I will see what he has to say. I mean, if what Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant said earlier today is any indication, he does have quite a bit to tout. Some stuff that you don't hear from your corporate legacy news weenies out there. Did you hear this? So we should think that 2025 was setting the table. 2026 is going to be a bountiful year if the Democrats don't shut down the government because they were unable to stop President Trump. They tried to, they tried to stop him in the courts, they tried to stop him in the media. Then they went to the extreme. We had the longest government shutdown in history was a hit to gdp, slowed things down. We're still going to finish the year probably three, three and a half percent GDP growth, which is incredible with a shrinking budget deficit. With a shrinking budget deficit. So we have very good momentum coming into next year. The economy is broadening out. You could see it. Other sectors of the stock market away from big tech are doing very well. And but if they try to shut down the government, I believe that the Senate Republicans should immediately forego the filibuster, keep the government open and let the economy do its thing because the one big beautiful bill, there are so many parts to that that are kicking in. We've had 15% uptake in capital expenditure. Capital expenditure historically always leads to job growth. We had the President fulfilled his promises to working Americans. No tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, the no tax on overtime and auto deductibility for American made cars. There are going to be substantial refunds to working American households in the first quarter. They will change their withholding. They will get an increase in real incomes. So I am very optimistic for, for working Americans. Now you expect the Secretary of the treasury and the Trump administration to be pretty bullish about, well, the economy that he's helping to oversee. But that is a litany of things right there that you really should take into account because the last I checked in the polls, you know, Trump is underwater right now with horrible rankings and unpopular responses in the polls because of his handling of the economy. And you think to yourself, well, hold on a minute, listen, there are still things that are too expensive out there. The cost of living is too high. Inflation has not shrunk. We haven't had deflation. You see, you see, you see, we had four years of the Biden administration spending up the wazuli money that we don't have at one point. Inflation reached 9 plus percent in just one month. Now it was going down by the time he was leaving office. But that's because. Well, partly because we had a Republican majority in the House starting two years into his presidency, number one. But number two, and most importantly, the cynical Democrats always ease up on their Marxism when they're looking for reelection. That's just what they do. But understand something. Even if you had inflation of 9%, and then you've got inflation down to where it is now, which I think under President Trump is about 2.7, maybe 3%, that doesn't mean that suddenly everything is 6% cheaper because you've gone from 9 to 3. No, that 3 is in addition to the 9 you already had. Okay? Every time inflation is there, it means prices are going up. It's just the prices aren't going up as bad as they were under Biden, but it's still an issue. Now, he's been able to reduce the cost of energy in the majority of the states in America. Right now we've got like six year lows in the price of gas because of this president's policies. And that will end up affecting the price of a lot of other things that you need to get. But understand something. Even with the government shutdown, this year is going to end with a 3 1/2% Gross Domestic Product growth. That's astounding. And did you hear him say that? That's at a time when we have a shrinking budget deficit. Can I say that again? A shrinking budget deficit. Do you remember when they were negotiating the big beautiful bill, the reconciliation tax package that extended and made permanent the 2017 Tax Cuts and also added all the other tax cuts you just heard the secretary lay out there, the tax cuts that include, you know, no tax on tips and no tax on this and no tax on that, and just a huge, you know, windfall for you to keep the money that you work hard for and have earned and shouldn't have to keep giving to the government? And we kept hearing all the time, well, the Congressional Budget Office says this is going to blow a hole in the deficit. Well, Congressional Budget Office says, you know, how are you going to pay for that? How are you going to pay that? You're going to have to cut some things to be able to pay for that. How are you going to pay for that? How are you going to pay for that? You always hear that. I love it. Whenever they come up with a new program like Obamacare or, you know, paying off your student loans for you. Right. Or anything that the left wants to provide for you, you never Hear anybody say, well, how are you going to pay for that? That's never a question that's ever asked. If they even want to address it voluntarily, they always say, well, we're going to tax the rich. You know, the ultra rich. Zoran Mamdani, your guy up in New York. Oh, yeah. Oh, we're going to be able to. Everything's going to be free. Everything's going to be free. And don't even ask how we're going to pay for it because we're just going to increase taxes by a point and a half on billionaires. And that'll do it. Because, you know, funny thing about billionaires, they're all really stupid. Billionaires never find a way to, you know, shelter their money from taxes. And when they see that there's going to be this Marxist coming in who promises to tax them, the last thing they're going to do is move. Yeah, those billionaires, they don't really read the news. They're not up on current events. And listen, who wants to move from beautiful New York City anyway? When you're a billionaire, it'll be worth it to pay an extra percent and a half. But who believes this garbage? But still, the question is always, that's when taxes are going to be cut and you get to keep your money. That's suddenly when they say, well, how do you pay for that? It's like, excuse me, what do you mean, how do you pay for it? It's my money. But conservatives, for the most part, whenever faced with that question and were faced with it all the time, going back to the Reagan tax cuts of 83 and then 86, the Bush tax cuts, the Trump tax cuts. You notice you never have a Democrats president's name associated with a historic tax cut. Right. Isn't it amazing that we never look back and say, oh, remember those Carter tax cuts? Oh my gosh, what an amazing piece of legislation those Obama tax cuts were. You never get that. But yes, everybody remembers the Reagan tax cuts, the Bush tax cuts and the Trump tax cuts. And every time those are passed, we're always told, oh, how do you gonna pay for that? And the Republican, the conservatives who know what they're talking about, if they've, you know, read any kind of history or economic theory from any paper put out by the Heritage foundation or Americans for Prosperity or any of the good guys out there who understand this stuff, they'll always answer the same thing. You know, here's the funny thing about our economy. When the American people are allowed to keep their money Instead of having to fork it over to the government, something amazing happens. The American people use that money and they do one of two things with it. They either save it or pay off their debt, which is really good for our economy, or they use it to buy things, which is also really good for our economy. When you let the American people keep their own money, only good things happen for our economy. And ultimately, if the American people have more money in their pocket and then they spend it and buy things or invest with it or start a business, or if they're a business who has been able to keep their money, they use it to expand their business and hire more people. And all of those things end up benefiting more people who are participating in the economy. Because when you go to buy something, well, that allows the person who works at the store you just bought it from to keep their job and keep working, and that keeps money filtered into our economy. Or it helps the business owner that sold you the product or built the product that you just bought. It allows them to hire more people and keep money flowing in the economy. And you know what ends up happening? All those people with all that money flowing, it ends up in taxes that end up going to the government. Not at the high rate that it was at before the great tax cut that gave everybody their money. Everyone's paying a lower tax cut, but more people are paying taxes. And guess what happens? The budget deficit shrinks because more money's coming in. That's right. When the government lets you keep your money, the government actually makes more money. But you don't have to believe me. Listen to Kevin Hassett, the chief economic adviser to the president. Well, first of all, the deficit news has been really fantastic. And it's kind of funny because for the longest time, at least, like the Democratic think tanks, they'd be telling you the only thing that matters is the deficit. Well, if you look at what's happened so far this year, year over year, by the calendar year, we're going to see a deficit reduction of about $600 billion. Multiply that by 10 and let there be a little growth, you're looking at 7 or 8 trillion in deficit reduction over the decade because of the policies we've adopted this year. Yeah, that's all this year, the first year of the Trump presidency, with the tax cuts, most of which haven't even kicked in yet, you've got a deficit reduction of $600 billion. You keep that up and you're starting to talk real money. All right, a little bit more on what the president might say tomorrow night, maybe it has something to do with the economy, maybe it has something to do with foreign policy. We'll tell you next. It's Larry o' Connor for Mark Levin. MARK.
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Fellowship.Org. Be speaking to the nation. Could be about the economy as I just mentioned, but then there's this. He just posted less than an hour ago on true social Venezuela is completely surrounded by the largest armada ever assembled in the history of South America. And it will only get bigger and the shock to them will be like nothing they've ever seen before until such time as they return to the United States of America all the oil, land and other assets that they previously stole from us. The illegitimate Maduro regime is using oil from those stolen oil fields to finance themselves. Drug terrorism, human trafficking, murder and kidnapping for the theft of our assets and many other reasons including terrorism, drug smuggling and human trafficking. The Venezuelan regime has been designated a foreign terrorist organization. Therefore, today I'm taking ordering a total and complete blockade of all sanctioned oil tankers going into and out of Venezuela. From the press President, it was retweeted by Marco Rubio. Keep your eye on that as well. Coming up, the latest out of Brown University. Larry o' Connor for Mark Levin. All right everyone, let's talk about drinking and driving, a decision that will change your whole world. Things will never be the same once you get a DUI because legal fees, time in court are just the beginning. Getting into a crash is another way your world could be irreversibly changed. After drinking and driving, your vehicle may not be the only thing that gets damaged in that crash. You could face a life altering injury or even death. But you're not the only one who could face those consequences. Your decision to drink and drive could permanently change someone else's world. Whether you injure them or leave their loved ones grieving. The next time you're out drinking, call a ride, share a taxi, a sober friend or a designated sober driver. Always plan for a safe ride home. 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This is a month ago, 6% of the students at Brown University identified themselves as conservatives. And the majority of them told the pollsters that they were afraid. Afraid, that's the word. Afraid to reveal their political beliefs to their fellow classmates. Afraid. A month later, one of those 6%, one of the very small handful of conservatives, a young 19 year old Christian conservative woman named Ella Cook. She's dead. She was one of the. What are the odds, what are the odds that of all of the students at Brown University one of the two murdered is identifiable as one of the few out of the closet well known conservative Christians, the vice president of the Young Republicans Club there. The answer is the odds are very slim that that would just be a random happenstance coupled with the fact that the gunman is still at large, the murderer is still at large and the police and the local officials there continue to reiterate to the greater community that there is no danger, that there is no threat. Explain to me if a, if a madman school shooter randomly shoots at 11 students in a classroom, killing two of them and injuring the balance, and then leaves and is still at large. How is that not a threat? Unless of course, they have information to believe that this was a targeted murder for God knows what reason. They certainly won't tell us. And that now that, that that reason no longer exists, there's no threat to the greater community. Everything about this is well out of bounds from what we have come to expect from your typical school shooting scenario. First, the weapon. It's a 9 millimeter handgun. Not usually what a school shooter would use. The profile of the individual that we've seen here in the photographs. Not some deranged loner kid who has maybe hopped up on something or neglected. Or a loner video gamer who wants to make a name for himself and go down in a blaze of glory. No, in fact, that whole go down in a blaze of glory thing is something that we've seen in so many of these school shooting incidents where the person just keeps shooting randomly at whoever is moving until they get shot by police or they just turn the gun on themselves. No, this person seemed to wait for a specific time after casing the joint because he's seen on security cameras sort of loitering for quite some time before the incident goes into a very specific classroom, shoots the people in the room and then leaves undetected and disappears. The opposite of what we've seen in your typical school shooting. And again, the local officials tell us that there's, there's no threat to the greater community. You put those pieces together, including reports, some verified by journalists, but not by authorities, that the parents of the victim here, Ella Cook, have been notified that they believe that she was targeted in this attack. And what do we know about her? That she is a high profile conservative Christian. We're also told that the person, the shooter, the gunman, the murderer shouted something. What did they shout? Well, the authorities won't tell us. They're pressed over and over and over again. You would think that this would be a key piece of evidence that maybe will help a member of the community identify who this murderer might be, but they won't reveal what the person shouted. In general, when there is a violent attack like this and people are murdered and you know that something is shouted by the murderer before the attack, what is it that they are usually shouting? I mean, If you look at past events like this, there is a common denominator. And yet these authorities will not even come close to saying any of the details that would make sense of this crime. And every time they Do a press conference, you actually walk away with more questions than answers. And here's the latest from the Providence chief of police. In terms of cameras inside and.
Caller
Outside the engineering building, are those working at all? And if so, why not release some of those.
Larry O'Connor
Videos? So the video that we showed you. Yeah, the question again, because. Because this is, by the way, one of the most surveilled college campuses in North America with over 800 cameras, and yet the few images they have. This doesn't look like a camera from our era, these cameras. The image that I'm seeing looks like those shaky 8 millimeter films of Bigfoot out in the woods from 1972 on an episode of In Search of with Leonard Nimoy. And so the question is, is there any video of the person inside the building where the shooting took place? Or maybe you've got a camera at the door so you can see people as they go in and out of the building? You know, like your typical surveillance security video cameras would be in any other logically placed location in a building like this. And what's his answer? So the video that we showed you came from inside the building. And that's all we had at the moment. That was all we have at this.
Caller
Moment. Inside the entertainment building.
Larry O'Connor
Though. I'm sorry, it's from the.
Caller
Accident. So do you have.
Larry O'Connor
Video? Okay, so his first answer. It might be hard to hear him with the horrific sound that they have at these press conferences, too, which is always instills a level of confidence. And remind me again, what party is in charge of all of the facilities and law enforcement and governmental operations in the state of Rhode Island? That's a swing state, isn't it? Oh, no, it's not. No, no. It's dominated by one party, the Democrats, and they just can't get anything done. Right. I know it may have been hard to hear him because of the sound system and also that very distinctive New England Rhode island accent. Right. Thick as chowder. He might be from a location a little further south than Providence, perhaps. I'm not sure what part of Rhode island sounds quite that Latino. But anyway, the police chief said that the camera footage that we have right now is from the inside of the building. And then the attorney general has to correct him and say, oh, no, no, no, that's from the outside of the building. Because the police chief doesn't know what the hell is going on. Yes, both inside and outside. I'm sorry, just outside. That's all we have. Not inside. No, I'm sorry, just outside. Are they going to be released anytime soon. That was really. Sorry, that was the outside of the building. We released that. Let me just, let me just, let me just jump here and clarify. Okay, so there is, this is the attorney general. Now, you know, for those of you who've been with us before, and I understand not all of you have been. There is video inside the building. There are cameras inside the building. What we have released to you is, are videos of this person of interest. So I want to be clear because later on there may be other videos that get released in the course of a prosecution, likely will be at some point. They show things like chaos after the shooting. What they don't show is the, is this person of interest. And so that's why we haven't released those videos. Okay, what you do have are videos from a camera outside of the brown building and other cameras from around the neighborhood that the good men and women in law enforcement located and put together in this montage. Okay, so the cameras inside don't show the person of interest, which of course leads to more questions like for instance, how do you know this is a person of interest if you don't have any footage of him inside at the crime scene? But you don't get those questions answered. Also, much has been discussed about the response from the administrators and security at Brown University when it took them something like a full 20 minutes before they actually put the sirens and alerts on for the campus at large to let them know that there's an emergency situation with a shooter at large. You know, so you might want to shelter in place or take precautions because you know, God forbid you're able to arm yourself and carry on a university campus. So if anything happens, you can actually defend yourself with your agency and your freedoms and your liberties protected by the Constitution. Because Brown University's campus is a gun free zone. Thank you very much. Because we don't want gun violence here. Oh, wait a minute. So at the very least, when somebody violates the sacrosanct gun free zone laws, which again, just pause for a moment and think, if this person is willing to break the law against, you know, murder, he might not think twice about violating a gun free zone. So who are you really trying to protect here? So when somebody violates your gun free zone and starts shooting people, at the very least let all the unarmed sitting ducks that you forced there without their second amendment rights of self defense to at least know that there's an emergency that they can shelter in place. So turn the sirens on. But they didn't. And the answer. The answer when challenged today. Do you believe that Brown had the precautions and safety measures in place before the shooting that were appropriate and.
Caller
Necessary? I.
Larry O'Connor
Do. And in fact, I'm glad you mentioned the sirens because I think there's been some misinformation about that. This is the president of Brown University, by the way, where you're shelling out 95,000 a year for your little darling to go get their Ivy League education. And of course, this woman is an up talker. So we get to. We get to get the indignity of an up talker telling you why not turning your sirens on in your warning system is a. Okay. When there's a shooter at large, we have two security systems that we can activate in time of an emergency. One is a system that sends.
Caller
Out text messages, phone calls, emails, and.
Larry O'Connor
It was activated within minutes of the incident. Those messages went out to 20,000 individuals. So all alerts. We also have a system of sirens. There are three sirens placed across campus. Those get activated when there is a broad scale emergency. And we want people to rush into buildings in the case of an active shooter. Activating that system could have caused people to rush into barracks and Hawley. So that's not a system that we would ever use in the case of an active shooter. So now you just heard what she said there, the sirens. Misinformation here. The sirens are a completely different alert system. We would not. You just heard the words we would not use that system in the case of an active shooter. Right? You just heard that. Now here's the reporter's follow up. Just a follow up. It does say on the website when it was launched that his burn active shooter. Just to make sure you heard that, it says on your own website that the siren system was put in place in case of an active shooter. So your Brown University president just said we would never use those sirens in the case of an active shooter. The reporter says it literally says on your website that the purpose of the sirens is for an active shooter. And her response. It depends on the circumstances. And it depends on the circumstances. You gotta have a doctorate in education and some kind of social sciences from an Ivy League university like, I'm sure this incredibly intelligent woman has to be so stupid as to say things like that. Meanwhile, back to your police chief from the Spanish speaking part of Providence, Rhode Island. Apparently, we know you're never going to tell us what was shouted at the time of this attack, but at the very least, can you confirm whether or not you know what was shouted or if anyone Knows what was shouted. How many of the students who were inside that building and also outside have detectives been able.
Caller
To. To interview and have they elaborated.
Larry O'Connor
In anything that this man said? Allegedly he yelled something in the classroom before opening fire. Did he appear to be wearing a bulletproof.
Caller
Vest? And that's why he appeared.
Larry O'Connor
Fy? It's a good amount of interviews that have been conducted. We have re interviewed several people. And so I just want to tell you that's part of the investigation right now. We'll continue. We'll continue to investigate and we'll continue to speak with them. And like the general stated, listen, we're just trying to build the case here and make sure that we can move forward and continue the progress as we're doing. As we're doing. But the interviews are still being conducted. They haven't elaborated. Exactly. And what this man, if he did say anything, what he was yelling. Yeah, I don't have that info now. Straight back, sir. Okay, so he doesn't have the information. So in other words, the police chief won't even say whether or not they know what was shouted by the suspect in the Brown shooting. I don't even know if he knows. Meanwhile, there are a lot of reports, mostly on social media, but there have been some networks who have also reported that there is one individual associated with Brown University. And I'm not going to name his name because this has not been confirmed by the officials, which of course they're not going to confirm anything even after an arrest is made. But this individual seems to be a assistant professor, a teacher's assistant, a student assistant, is a Palestinian activist. Photographs of this person, and by the way, the body type seems to match the person in the video. By the way, this individual, more than just a Palestinian activist with photographs all over the place, wearing that stupid terrorist scarf from Yasser Arafat's design shop. To add insult to injury, this person is a queer Palestinian activist. And within the last 24 hours, this student assistant queer Palestinian activist has had all of their information and postings on the Brown University website removed. All of the postings about this individual at the center for Middle East Studies. The information on his apprenticeship and profile scrubbed from the website. The Attorney General was asked about this. You'll hear the answer in a moment. Mud.
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Larry O'Connor
Fellowship.Org. Lots of reasons why a page might be taken down, particularly if there's chatter out there about to your question, Amanda, about words that were spoken. It's easy to jump from someone saying words that were spoken to what those words are to a particular name that reflects a motive targeting a particular person. That's a really dangerous road to go down. There you go. Feel safer now? Feel better now? I don't. Thanks for listening. I'm Larry o'. Connor. It's the Mark Levin Show. Mark's back.
Episode Title: Who’s to Blame for the Vanity Fair Story?
Host: Larry O’Connor (in for Mark Levin)
Date: December 17, 2025
This episode, guest-hosted by Larry O’Connor, dives into the Washington, D.C. firestorm ignited by a Vanity Fair interview with Susie Wiles, President Trump’s chief of staff. The discussion centers on controversial quotes attributed to Wiles in the article, the media’s framing of those quotes, and questions of who is truly to blame for the fallout. O’Connor brings in listener calls, provides context and media criticism, and later pivots to discuss current terror threats in Western societies and reactions to the Brown University shooting.
Media Manipulation, Conservative Vulnerability, and the Vanity Fair Controversy
Larry O’Connor unpacks how an interview with Susie Wiles was weaponized by the media, the dangers of conservative figures trusting the press, and the broader culture of media activism. The episode is heavy on listener engagement, media skepticism, and the imperative for conservatives to learn from PR mistakes.
[04:12] O’Connor outlines the sequence: Susie Wiles, Trump’s chief of staff, sat for 11 interviews with renowned Vanity Fair journalist known for contrasting portrayals of Democrat and Republican chiefs of staff.
Media Amplification: Vanity Fair published the article; then offered an exclusive preview to the New York Times, which ran with especially inflammatory excerpts.
Media Collusion Allegation: O’Connor accuses outlets of working together not as competitors but as left-wing activists targeting the Trump White House.
“It’s like Burger King giving McDonald’s an exclusive look at their brand new Whopper recipe... They’re all on the same team. They all have the same interest in destroying conservatives, in destroying the Trump presidency.” — Larry O’Connor [06:47]
The Paragraph That Lit Up DC: O’Connor reads the New York Times’ most viral summary, which attributes the following to Wiles:
Analysis: O’Connor dissects each slight, arguing some are non-issues (Musk’s oddness, Vought’s conservatism) but that the Trump comment is designed for maximal damage.
“The damage is what was said about the President...and we’re going to give you the details and the context and the real quote on that in just one moment.” — Larry O’Connor [18:32]
Susie Wiles’ Statement: She accuses Vanity Fair of publishing a “disingenuously framed hit piece,” omitting context and painting a negative narrative. She refrains from denying the comments attributed to her, but claims they're misleading without context. [17:38]
Context on ‘Alcoholic’s Personality’
“High-functioning alcoholics or alcoholics in general, their personalities are exaggerated when they drink... So I’m a little bit of an expert in big personalities... He [Trump] has an alcoholic's personality and operates with a view that there’s nothing he can’t do. Nothing. Zero. Nothing.” — read by Larry O’Connor [29:41]
“A conspiracy theory is just something that was true six months before the media admitted it." — J.D. Vance
[41:27] O’Connor pivots to a global overview of recent thwarted and successful terrorist attacks during the Christmas and New Year’s season (Australia, Germany, France, Poland, USA), linking most to radical Islamist motives.
Theme: The West’s response—heightened security or canceled events—is evidence the terrorists are succeeding in spreading fear and disruption.
Critique: Western governments have allowed these threats by welcoming individuals who now pose risks; when conservatives propose reconsidering open border policies, they’re demonized.
“Funny thing about terrorists. They have two goals. They want to murder you ... Their second, not quite as important goal is to terrify you. Hence the name: terrorist.” — Larry O’Connor [44:54]
O’Connor breaks down the mysterious shooting at Brown, highlighting:
“What are the odds… that of all the students at Brown University, one of the two murdered is one of the few out-of-the-closet, well-known conservative Christians?” — Larry O’Connor [100:54]
This episode pivots around the lessons conservatives should learn regarding media engagement, using the Susie Wiles/Vanity Fair incident as a cautionary tale about “knowing your enemy” in press relations. Larry O’Connor’s analysis urges skepticism, vigilance, and an insistence on context as defenses against coordinated activist journalism. The latter half of the show reflects on cultural vulnerability in the West, highlighting the consequences of political and social choices, and expressing concern over a pattern of violence targeting conservative institutions and values.
Listeners are left with vital questions about trust, media, and the importance of disciplined messaging in a hostile information landscape.
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