1/26/25 - Inside the Chaos: How Agitators Mobilize for Protest

Summary

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Mark Levin Podcast – January 27, 2026

Episode Title: Inside the Chaos: How Agitators Mobilize for Protest

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Mark Levin explores the recent violence and chaos surrounding protests and confrontations with ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) in Minnesota, analyzing the deeper structures and influences mobilizing these protests. Drawing sharp historical parallels, Levin positions contemporary events within the legacy of radical activism, the radicalization of the Democratic Party, and the influence of organized left-wing, Marxist, and Islamist groups. The episode further delves into the media’s role, foreign funding, the situation in Iran, and the current status of power in China with guest Gordon Chang.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Historical Context of Radical Protests

• Minnesota as "Ground Zero": Levin opens the episode by highlighting Minnesota’s history as a center for radical protest, citing the famous "Bloody Thursday" at Berkeley in 1969 as a precursor to current events.
  • “The Democrat Party and the radical left is involved in an awful lot of it. Ever hear Bloody Thursday, May 15, 1969?” (03:00)
• Evolution of Protest Tactics: He draws direct lines from the “new left” of the 1960s to today's protest movements, noting the increasing violence and organization.

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2. Radicalization and Organization Behind the Protests

• Shift in Political Alignment: Levin claims the Democratic Party has evolved into a “Marxist Islamist party,” fundamentally at odds with American constitutionalism and law and order.

  • “It is a party that rejects Americanism. It is a party that rejects constitutionalism. It's a party that rejects law and order except their own protection...” (06:14)

• Obstruction of Federal Law Enforcement: He alleges active direction by Democratic governors and mayors to obstruct ICE, citing refusal to cooperate with federal authorities and the rise of "sanctuary" policies.

• Financial and Foreign Backing:

  • Asserts that these protest networks are not only aided by billionaire benefactors such as George Soros but are also funded by foreign actors, particularly through Marxist networks.

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3. Anatomy of the Minneapolis Incident

• ICE Shooting Incident: Levin dissects the incident in Minneapolis involving the death of Alex Preddy, an ICU nurse turned protester killed during a confrontation with ICE.

  • Key facts:
    • Protesters were tracked via encrypted chats and database monitoring ICE activity.
    • Protesters, described as "rapid responders," actively confronted law enforcement, escalating into violence.
    • Supplies, masks, and refreshments were organized and distributed to sustain the protest.

• Coordinated Mobilization:

  • “A coordinated web of encrypted chats, street alerts, and tracking of ICE [...] agitators were already mobilized at the scene where 37-year-old Alex Preddy was killed minutes before any shots were fired.” (15:07)

• Tactical Propaganda:

  • Networks use short videos, emojis, and fast messaging to propagate their narrative and recruit further support.
  • "Offers a window into the disciplined logistics, messaging, and coordination of far-left warriors fomenting insurgency-like confrontation with authorities." (16:58)

• Quick Response and Media Amplification:

  • Within minutes, socialist and communist groups surge protesters to sites nationally, coordinated via signals, and flood social media.
  • “Within hours, socialist leaders turbocharged their rapid responders in Minneapolis, mobilized street protesters from New York City to Los Angeles.” (23:59)

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4. Media Coverage and Narrative Manipulation

• Selective Reporting/Information Suppression:
  • Levin claims mainstream media like the NYT, WaPo, CNN, and Reuters ignore the role of radical networks and foreign funding behind these protests.
  • “And yet isn't it the full story that the war against ICE is being funded and organized by a billionaire in Communist China, among others?...And that's not part of the story.” (33:43)
• Impact on Public Perception:
  • The true nature of these organized, well-funded actions is obscured, allowing the narrative to shift blame away from the instigators and towards law enforcement.

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5. Political and Societal Implications

• Legitimizing Violent Opposition:

  • Levin warns that extreme rhetoric by officials (comparisons to Nazis, Anne Frank, etc.) dangerously legitimizes violence against law enforcement, citing recent remarks by Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey.
  • Memorable quote:
    • “When elected officials portray police or federal agents as Nazis, they create an environment where protesters can convince themselves that violently confronting law enforcement is not only justified, but morally required.” (61:03)

• Insurrection Act and Use of Force:

  • Levin notes that historically presidents have used the Insurrection Act to quell riots, implying current leadership is failing to uphold tradition by not intervening decisively.

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6. Foreign Affairs: Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Islamist Threats

• Massacre in Iran:

  • Levin paints a dire picture of Iran’s regime, paralleling its slaughter of civilians with ignored historic genocides.
  • “We know what's going on in Iran today...more people have been slaughtered in a shorter period of time than really any time I can think of in modern history.” (40:31)

• Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey:

  • Warns of these states' attempts to destabilize allies and their influence on Western policy.

• Failure of the West:

  • Critique of passive Western response, especially from the US, to authoritarian violence in Iran.

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7. China Power Struggles & Geopolitics (with Gordon Chang)

Segment starts at 83:21

• Xi Jinping’s Consolidation:
  • Chang and Levin discuss the recent purge of China’s top military general, speculating on loyalty, corruption, and Xi’s absolute grip.
• Rumors of Instability:
  • Internal power struggles, rumors of coups, and elite dissatisfaction suggest Xi’s position, while dominant, is fragile.
  • “Xi Jinping, his motto is, I live, you die. And sometimes that very well may be literal.” – Gordon Chang (90:31)
• China’s Military Readiness:
  • Despite saber-rattling, turmoil and inexperience at the top make a Taiwan invasion unlikely in the near term.
• Global Threats:
  • China’s efforts to dominate Taiwan, threaten Japan, the Philippines, and Australia.
  • Ongoing economic struggles and loss of cheap foreign energy supplies are pressuring China’s ability to project power.

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8. Listener Engagement and Continuing Rhetoric

• Callers’ Frustration:
  • Levin’s audience expresses concern about the infiltration of anti-American, radical ideologies and the lack of action against those who “want to overthrow” America.
• Agitprop and Language:
  • Levin highlights the Leninist concept of “agitprop” — propaganda designed to agitate and mobilize action.
• Warning Against Weakness:
  • Criticizes officials (notably Oklahoma’s governor) for suggesting a softer approach to federal immigration enforcement.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“A coordinated web of encrypted chats, street alerts and tracking of ICE abductors…shows that agitators were already mobilized at the scene where 37-year-old Alex Preddy was killed minutes before any shots were fired.”
— Mark Levin [15:07]

“When elected officials portray police or federal agents as Nazis, they create an environment where protesters can convince themselves that violently confronting law enforcement is not only justified, but morally required.”
— Levin quoting John Nagle [61:03]

“Xi Jinping, his motto is, I live, you die. And sometimes that very well may be literal.”
— Gordon Chang [90:31]

“Is the world losing its conscience, its morality? Is that what's happening?”
— Mark Levin [43:00]

“They are owned by the Islamist Marxists. That's their new base. You can see, that's their militia wing. Just as had a militia wing during the George Floyd and BLM riots.”
— Mark Levin [57:32]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [02:20] – Historical framing of Minnesota protest—Berkeley 1969 comparison
• [06:14]–[09:06] – Claims of party radicalization and law enforcement obstruction
• [11:59]–[16:36] – Detailed breakdown of Minneapolis shooting and protest coordination
• [17:36] – Evidence of organized database tracking of ICE in real-time
• [23:59] – National rapid response driven by socialist and communist networks
• [33:31]–[36:18] – Media’s failure to report protest organization and funding
• [40:31]–[49:52] – Slaughter in Iran, Western moral inertia, and critique of Saudi, Qatar, Turkey alliances
• [51:49]–[55:54] – Critique of US political response, role of Islamic and Marxist migration in policy
• [59:23]–[61:06] – Rebuke of Holocaust/Nazi analogies by MN governor and others
• [83:21] – Interview: Gordon Chang on Chinese power struggle and global ambitions
• [92:17]–[101:51] – China’s military readiness, economy, and regional geopolitics
• [104:49] – Listener calls: Frustration with government inaction on radical infiltration

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Tone and Language

Mark Levin’s language throughout is combative, direct, and urgent, often infused with historical references and invective against perceived political adversaries. Levin’s analysis is passionate, occasionally dark, and deeply skeptical of mainstream media and establishment politics. The tone during Gordon Chang’s segment is inquisitive and analytical, yielding to Chang’s expert insight into Chinese power dynamics.

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Summary

This episode offers a sweeping, polemical analysis of contemporary protest movements against ICE, linking them to deeper patterns of leftist mobilization, foreign interference, and media cover-up. Mark Levin situates the violence in Minnesota within a broader ideological and historical struggle, warning of the dangers posed by the fusion of Marxist and Islamist elements and the Democratic Party’s alleged complicity. The episode concludes with a sobering assessment of America’s geopolitical adversaries, especially China and Iran, emphasizing the need for clarity, unity, and principled leadership.

Transcript

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[Mark Levin]

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[Rich]

Our number, 8773-813811-87733-8811. You know, folks, I try to apply common sense when things get a little out of control. The rhetoric, the static, the accusations, such as what's taking place in Minnesota. Minnesota seems to be ground zero for the most radical movements in our country. It's not an accident if you know a little bit about history or if you want to know a little bit about history, these things do happen. They do happen. And the Democrat Party and the radical left is involved in an awful lot of it. Ever Hear Bloody Thursday, May 15, 1969, protest at Berkeley's People's Park? The governor was Ronald Reagan. He sent in state National Guard troops and police to crush demonstrators, Demonstrators who've been violent, who've destroyed things and refused to leave. And that resulted in dozens of injuries, hundreds of arrests and the death of James Rechtor. The protesters had converted a university owned vacant lot into a community park. And Reagan said it was a direct leftist challenge to property rights. He vowed to take action. He sent in the National Guard. I'm giving you the short version. And then the police in Berkeley today, they probably wouldn't do it. And he famously said, if a bloodbath was necessary to restore order, let's get it over with. And police used live ammunition, gun pellets, tear gas, bird shot, 13 hospitalized, three with punctured lungs, one on a shattered leg. And the president or then the governor defended his Actions that we had to maintain law and order against radical, violent demonstrators. Back then, it was the new left. It was the new left, 1969. There are a variety of student groups, many of which weren't headed by students, students for Democratic Action. And they gave themselves all kinds of names and they were violent, just as they were violent two summers ago in New York on university campuses in la, University of California, Berkeley. Governors have to face these things from time to time, as do presidents. Why do you think we have an insurrection act? An insurrection act that was passed over 200 years ago. Now what's going on now that's a little different is that this is being supported fully by a major political party, the Democrat Party, because the party's been radicalized. It is a Marxist Islamist party. It is a party that rejects Americanism. It is a party that rejects constitutionalism.

[Mark Levin]

It's a party that rejects law and.

[Rich]

Order except their own protection by the Capitol police and private security. So let's just cut to the chase. What's going on here? This is a party that let in.

[Mark Levin]

Perhaps 20 million illegal aliens.

[Rich]

They didn't care if they were mass.

[Mark Levin]

Murderers, rapists, burglars, sexual predators.

[Rich]

They didn't give a damn.

[Mark Levin]

They didn't care who they were or where they were from. And in fact flew them into our country. Almost half a million people flown into our country on your dime. They changed the immigration laws by practice. Joe Biden violated the Constitution. He would not ensure that the laws were faithfully executed. That is in the Constitution. We had a radicalized immigration system with almost no barriers to anybody coming into the country. And it's made a difference. It's changed the country. We have more Islamists here than we've ever had. And it is a huge problem. We have spies that were brought into this country, but massive numbers of criminals and people who, who come into our country and jump right into the welfare system when of course, none of that.

[Rich]

Is supposed to happen. You're supposed to be self sufficient or you don't come into the country.

[Mark Levin]

So we start from there. President gets elected in a landslide. Among other things, he says, I'm going to secure the border and remove these people. He secures the border and now he's trying to remove these people, particularly the criminals, that is people who've committed additional offenses. And he's getting resistance from the same party that brought them in in the first place. And these governors, whether it's Newsom or Pritzker or Walz or Hochul or whomever, and these mayors, whether it's Fry or Mondame or whatever Bass. They take the side of the criminals. They take the side of what is now the violent rioters. This is different than before. And there's another difference. Much of this is being funded by billionaires, dark money from Soros and his ilk, but also by foreign governments, as Peter Schweitzer's book points out. And so now you have the men and women of ice.

[Rich]

They're not used to dealing with this.

[Mark Levin]

Sort of thing where you literally have a militarized political party with governors and mayors in the Democrat Party urging people to obstruct federal law enforcement, telling local cops they may not assist federal law enforcement, refusing to assist federal law enforcement, and identifying the locations of the worst of the criminals. You literally have governors out there, governors out there who are gaslighting the rioters. So the Democrat Party working with the billionaires, working with the foreign governments, this is their new constituency in many respects. And they're counting on them getting amnesty. They're counting on them staying in the country. They're counting on the Supreme Court, on birthright citizenship, all in order to empower the Democrat Party. It's in my book on power, one party rule, so they can never lose. So they'll have more members of Congress, so they'll have more Electoral College votes. Not from American citizens, from illegal aliens, and then the children of illegal aliens who will also be hostile to the American system. Ready made for the Democrat Party. Now, two things about these shootings. Number one, I and others have said that the Democrats, with the language they're using and the position they're taking, they're going to get people killed. Well, they have. They take no responsibility for it. In fact, they're all righteous about it, that it's ISIS fault, that it's Chrissy Noem's fault, that it's Trump's fault. They've created the violent, riotous situation. They have no interest, the media have no interest in who's behind it, who's organizing it. None. Zero. Because that destroys the narrative. This is the way they wish to win the midterm elections. This is the way they expect to take the presidency after Donald Trump. Because they are wrong on the issues. They can't win on the issues. This is a violent, radical political party, an alien party in many respects, that has never embraced Americanism, ever takes the side of those who attack the founders and the framers. They want to change the Supreme Court in order to change the Constitution. And the list goes on and on.

[Rich]

And on, does it not?

[Mark Levin]

The Woman who was killed in Minnesota without getting into the particulars almost hit an ICE agent with her car. She was asked to stop. She wouldn't stop. One ICE agent reached into the car to try and turn the car off. She sped up, almost killing the man, apparently hitting the man because he had internal injuries. But very provocative. If a cop pulls you over and you're speeding and you speed off and you speed off and you almost hit him as you speed off, you know that that could lead to a deadly situation. You know you're going to be chased and you know if they catch you, they're going to have weapons drawn. And in this most recent case they keep talking about, we have video of this angle, that angle, another angle, another angle. I go back to basics. I am not questioning the Second Amendment. I am not questioning the right to bear arms. But who brings a gun and ammo knowing full well that you're going to be involved in a very provocative situation that you're with a number of people who have as their purpose obstructing ice, obstructing federal law enforcement. Who's trying to detain criminals, foreign criminals. You certainly have contributed to your own endangerment. But who does that? And now we have governors, the governor, Oklahoma. We got to really change this. Republicans. I think Abbott said something a few hours ago.

[Rich]

We got to change the way we're approaching this.

[Mark Levin]

We got to do. The Democrats are talking about defunding ICE or changing the whole thing. So what? So, so you can't get criminals. They think this is easy. When you have local law enforcement, state law enforcement, local and state officials stopping you or not assisting you, it's extremely difficult. And then on top of that, there's historian Fox. This whole thing is organized.

[Rich]

Organized. Let me pull this up for you. Let's see if I can find it right here. All right. Far left network that helped put Alex Preddy in harm's way, then made him a martyr.

[Mark Levin]

This is Fox News. The skirmish that led to Saturday's fatal.

[Rich]

Shooting of an agitator by border Patrol.

[Mark Levin]

Agents in Minneapolis and the response that followed were driven by a complex network of far left organizations with a wide range of causes. Fox News digital investigation found. You won't find this on Drudge. You won't find this on Mediaite. You won't find it in the New York Times, the Washington Post, ap, Reuters, nowhere else. A coordinated web of encrypted chats, street alerts and tracking of ICE abductors. Since it's all funded in a sophisticated database reviewed by Fox News Digital shows that agitators were already mobilized at the scene where 37 year old Alex Preddy was killed minutes before any shots were fired. And then you got guys on CNN and elsewhere saying polls see the American people don't support what ICE is doing. The American people aren't being informed about what's taking place either. ICE and border patrol agents were there to arrest an illegal immigrant criminal and Prady and others were there outside a donut shop to meet them as part of a strategic pattern of organized interference with enforcement operations. I'm going to continue this. I have to take a break.

[Rich]

We'll be right back. From Fox News Digital. Over the following hours, a national network of socialist, communist and Marxist Leninist sells.

[Mark Levin]

In the United States.

[Rich]

And by the way, they have the receipts here, they have the goods. There's a graphic right here.

[Mark Levin]

Leverage the tragic fatality into a nationwide protest operation. While grief and outrage over Preddy's death is genuine, the network's real time rapid.

[Rich]

Response, using short sensational video clips and emojis as weapons of propaganda, offers a.

[Mark Levin]

Window into the disciplined logistics, messaging and.

[Rich]

Coordination of far left warriors fomenting insurgency.

[Mark Levin]

Like confrontation with authorities. This level of engineered chaos is unique in Minneapolis. It is the direct consequence of far left agitators working with local authorities, noted the vice president. The encrypted signal messages encrypted obtained by Fox News Digital in real time show that anti ICE rapid responders, quote unquote, were actively tracking, broadcasting and summoning backup around federal agents outside Glom Dull Donuts.

[Rich]

On Nicollet Avenue where the shooting happened.

[Mark Levin]

Local rapid responders, that's what they call themselves, made at least 26 entries into a database called Minnesota Ice Platts in the critical hours before and after the killing, documenting the license plate numbers and details of alleged ICE vehicles they claimed to see around Nicollet Avenue. The entry at row 344 read at the Nicollet murder, chronicling a black Jeep Wagoneer at the location with agents allegedly involved in shooting. Row 338 had a glam Dahl donuts entry tracking a black Ford Taurus. You see what's going on here? Now I want to finish this when we return. There's a lot to do. There's Iran, there's China. We're going to have Gordon Chang on an hour three. Looks like a coup attempt that failed, but we'll get into that. I'll be right back.

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[Rich]

In addition to this fantastic radio show. Thanks to you folks, we will be launching our video podcast in February, just a couple of weeks and I'll keep informed about that. So we will have our the Mothership is the radio program all three hours. We have our Fox program on the weekends and we will have a video podcast. It'll typically air, I've decided, Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays for about 40, 45 minutes. Again, it'll be video as well and we'll see how that goes. We have a lot of desire for people to see video broadcasting and that's what we will do. But again, I consider radio the Mothership and I always will. It is a great love of mine and a passion of mine and always has been. Well, let me get back to this at 9:50am Eastern time, writes Fox Digital. Just before the Killing Pretty, a user identified as Willow shared a 22 second video on an encrypted signal chat for the Anti ICE Rapid Responders.

[Mark Levin]

These are the riders 26 and 3rd, wrote Willow quickly following up with outside Glomdal.

[Rich]

So they give themselves these names. You see video show two agents, one wearing a vest, mark police studying the.

[Mark Levin]

Front door of Glamdahl.

[Rich]

That's the donut shop, before walking away.

[Mark Levin]

Past a sign in the window that read ICE out of Minnesota.

[Rich]

So you understand folks, that these insurrectionists.

[Mark Levin]

Do not want criminal bad criminals who are foreigners removed from this country. As the camera rolled, the person filming yelled no. The camera followed the agents as they returned to a maroon Dodge Durango. Passing another sign in the window that read all welcome here. In the video, someone shouted, get out of here now.

[Rich]

These are federal law enforcement trying to enforce federal law.

[Mark Levin]

Just three minutes later, at 9:53am Eastern Time, a second Signal user, salacious Bcrum, escalated the alert, summoning additional responders, that is Rioters inciting the same vehicle and agents. Backup needed at the Black Forest and parking lot on Nicollet Avenue just south of 26th street, the message read. It said multiple vehicles with many agents appear to be staging here. One confirmed ICE vehicle seen was a maroon Dodge Durango. Plate number fill in the blank, but it has driven away northbound on Nicollet.

[Rich]

Fox News Digital has redacted the Florida license plate number, including the original message. Now this is why the Democrats want these men and women not to wear masks, you see, so they can track them down at their homes. This is anarchy. The Democrat Party's in on it and you have Republicans who are buckling to it. ICE Assistant Director Marcos Charles said Sunday that the violence on the street was Not a coincidence considering the chaos and mayhem that agitators are fomenting in Minneapolis.

[Mark Levin]

At the same press conference, customs from.

[Rich]

Border Patrol Commander at large Greg Bovino confirmed that Preddy was on the scene.

[Mark Levin]

Several minutes before the fatal shooting. Video of the scene shows that as Preddy stepped into the middle of Nicollet Avenue to direct traffic, fellow agitators could be heard blowing whistles to alert locals that ICE officers were around. Soon after, Preddy ended up in a street confrontation with CBP agents across the street from the Galam dull donuts outside.

[Rich]

A Warren storefront marked New American Development Center, a nonprofit focused on immigration entry programs for Somalis.

[Mark Levin]

Within minutes, at about 10:05am Eastern Time, at least one CBP agent shot Preddy, killing him. At 10:18, the signal network erupted, using a red phone emoji to signal an all points bullet. And a message blasted out easy. Urgent observers urgently requested a glam Dahl Donuts. At 26th and Nicollet. The alert continued. An observer has been shot by ICE. Unknown condition. EMTs present. Please be safe. Medics requested to join perimeter in case agents start gazing. Be aware, there are many agents. Minneapolis Police Department officers are present. Within minutes, far left activists descended on Nicollet Avenue. Soon after, a video showed corrugated boxes of supplies apparently lined up on Minneapolis sidewalk for protesters, including boxes marked designer masks and free winter hats next to piles of bottled water. You see how organized and funded this is. Rich. Within hours, socialist leaders turbocharged their rapid responders in Minneapolis mobilized street protesters from New York City to Los Angeles. Media outlets including CNN and MSN now describe angry protesters, but failed to identify the ideological networks behind the mobilization. And Drudge and Mediaite and the rest.

[Rich]

Of them are ignoring this completely too.

[Mark Levin]

Even as protesters flashed their signs with their logos and names, counting Socialism, Communism, Marxism on camera. Minneapolis activation marked the beginning of an.

[Rich]

Almost instantaneous weekend surge by far left groups, including hardened socialist and communist groups.

[Mark Levin]

Operating on an ecosystem the national security experts describe as an insurgent style operation designed to exploit tragedy to wage a domestic political war. And of course, they have the Democrats there helping them. The strategy mirrors past mobilizations, including the aftermath of George Floyd's killing in May 2020, and exploits well intentioned in public sympathy by rapidly framing Petrified, an intensive care unit nurse as a Veterans Administration hospital as a symbol of resistance. Much like Renee Goode, the first victim.

[Rich]

Of an ICE shooting.

[Mark Levin]

Just as they responded in real time to mobilize comrades, quote unquote to march on the streets. Within 12 hours of the US arrest of Venezuelan strongman Nicolas Maduro in early January. Socialist Communists and Marxist Leninist groups now frame their activation as an action within the belly of the beast, quote unquote against the hyper imperialism quote unquote of the United States. Based on a digital analysis of scores of rapid response messages from the killing on Saturday, a hub of communist and socialist nonprofit organizations emerged as key organizers of the protest. Many of them are funded by American born billionaire Neville Roy Singham.

[Rich]

This guy's the worst. He's like Soros on steroids.

[Mark Levin]

A self declared Marxist lenison living in Communist China in Shanghai. Some are also offshoots of the People's Forum, Inc. A nonprofit hub Singham has funded in New York City since 2017 as an incubator for socialist and communist groups. The People's Forum declined a request for comment. At 10:48am Breakthrough News, a 501c3 nonprofit propaganda arm of the People's Forum, broke the news widely of the killing sharing a video recorded from inside the glam Dahl donut shop of the tussled outside, punctuated by gunshots and frantic narrative narrative Excuse me. Frantic narration Holy S. What the F. Did they effing kill that guy? Effing Kidding me dude. Breakthrough News put a dramatic black and white caption over the video, breaking another CBP shooting in Minneapolis. By Sunday afternoon, The video had 4.1 million views alongside the outlets calls to support the People's Republic of China, Venezuela's Maduro and the Communist revolution in Cuba. Before the video cuts off, someone can be heard saying yo, we need people on our site. At 11:40am Breakthrough News broadcasts a 39 second video purporting to show state police charging across the street with batons, some falling as clouds of breath rose in the cold air. Soon after 12.24pm the party for Socialism and Liberate.

[Rich]

Excuse me, my mouth broke.

[Mark Levin]

Socialism and Liberation, a political wing of the movement working with shared leadership. The People's Forum published a quickly made graphic CPB murders. Another in Minneapolis and the message Expand the General Strike. The call for a general strike, a classic communist tactic, refers to coordinated mass work stoppages aimed at paralyzing civil society, the force, police and economic outcomes. And you see what they've done in Washington. We're going to shut down the Department of homeland security. At 12:33pm the People's Forum blasted out a bold red and white poster to followers calling for an emergency protest 4:00pm Eastern Time at Union Square in Midtown Manhattan with the message Stop Ice Terror.

[Rich]

You're wondering how all these people shop for these different events all over the country. I'm showing you how right now thanks to Fox News Digital.

[Mark Levin]

In lockstep at 12:57pm so the shooting occurs about three.

[Rich]

And a half earlier. Early hours early. You see how this is all organized?

[Mark Levin]

Democratic Socialists of America 501c3 nonprofit that.

[Rich]

Elected Zora Mandami as mayor, posted a.

[Mark Levin]

Stark black and white graphic on X calling the killing an execution and demanding abolish ICE now at the protest, Linda Sarsour, a radical left wing Palestinian political operative who has led virulently anti Israel protests, anti Semitic protests with socialist organizations, let's see, rallied the crowd at 4pm protests yelling we will bring this country to a halt. We will bring this country to a halt. The People's Forum shared the 22 second video clip with the caption happening now in New York City. So they create these events. They create these events. The media come and report on it. Media aggregator sites like Drudge and Mediaite feed this stuff over and over and over again. The New York Times picks it up, the Washington Post picks it up, CNN, MSNBC.

[Rich]

Even my Saturday show was preempted. Right Mr. Producer.

[Mark Levin]

Other groups mobilized simultaneously, including Freedom Road Socialist Organization, a self described Marxist Leninist group that has waved its red flag with its acronym FRSO in the middle of the protest since Goode's killing. Also active the Minnesota Immigrant Rights Action Committee which has led many of the rapid response efforts, and Black Lives Matter chapters which led the recent stampede through a local Christian church. By early evening, the narrative had coalesced.

[Rich]

In the chorus of voices within the.

[Mark Levin]

Far left propaganda apparatus adopting charged historical language to brand federal officials as Nazi like figures. At 4:12pm Kala Walsh, a controversial communist activist filmed this past summer in Iran shouting death to America, Death to Israel, shared a 32 second video showing barricades built with Republic Services dumpsters. She wrote, people in Minnesota build barriers, trapping is Gestapo at the scene of their last murder in broad daylight not far from where they killed Renee Goode a couple weeks ago, not far from where George Floyd was killed in 2020. By evening, CNN was reporting from the 4pm protest in New York City, but did not identify the ideological affiliations of the groups, even as activists openly carried signs from the Party for Socialism and Liberation with the group's full name printed across the bottom. Another CNN segment from Minneapolis interviewed Chris Gray, describing him only as Preddy's next door neighbor. Gray spoke about Preddy while delivering a well scripted appeal for a general strike to dismantle the Trump regime and promote nonviolent resistance but that segment didn't disclose that gray and is a member of the Socialist Alternative, the U.S. affiliate of the International Socialist Alternative, quote, a global fighting organization of workers, young people and all those oppressed by capitalism, imperialism to seek and create a socialist world. Soon after, Socialist Alternative shared the interview.

[Rich]

Proudly on Instagram, in other Words, pushed the CNN interview. And then it goes on and on and on. If all the fine print from all the communications that took place, we will post this on the mothership on the Mark Levin show website. But I want you to know what's going on. And so when you see Republicans, like the governor of Oklahoma, to some extent the governor of Texas, when you see the senator from Louisiana, and when you hear everybody saying, we got to change what we're doing, change what we're doing, the enemy wins. Now, remember, in past conflicts of this sort, whether it's the Vietnam War, excuse me, whether there's other riots taking place, what we call the New left from the 1960s and 1970s where they had these different organizations, very violent organizations, and these organizations are very violent, too. We had cops in Democrat cities, but back then you would have a Daily or a Rizzo or something like that. They wouldn't put up with this crap. They'd put it down.

[Mark Levin]

You might have a Democrat governor, they'd.

[Rich]

Put it down, too. We're at least all united in the notion that you back law enforcement and you don't support these communist movements, socialist movements and these other movements, and yet the Democrat Party now is part of those movements. Now you have the rest of the story, America. I'll be right back. So it's very troubling to me here at Fox Digital that has gathered this information, has the actual evidence, it provides it on its website story.

[Mark Levin]

Drudge doesn't use it. Mediaite doesn't use it.

[Rich]

AP doesn't use it.

[Mark Levin]

Reuters doesn't use it. New York Times doesn't use it.

[Rich]

Washington Post doesn't use it.

[Mark Levin]

CNN doesn't use it. Ms. Now doesn't use it. Nobody uses it. And yet isn't it the full story that the war against ICE is being funded and organized by a billionaire in Communist China, among others, through communist and socialist front groups in our country that have an enormously sophisticated communication system protected under a signal umbrella. And you can actually see the communications and the action plans minute by minute. And that's not part of the story. Because they want the Democrats to win the midterm elections, because they want a government shutdown showdown. And the Democrats know this, too. And the Democrats Want this. They're at war with ICE, too, just as they were at war with local cops four or five years ago, just as they are at war with our military in the 1960s and 70s. We've seen this before, but not as sophisticated as before. This is why these people are showing up at these various violent protests, whether it's against Jews in Israel, whether it's for Maduro. Think about that. For Maduro. They're not in the streets right now about Iran slaughtering its people because it's communist, socialist, Islamist against we the people and our media. But for just a couple of. A couple of platforms like Fox Digital. Our media are doing nothing to inform the American people. Then they're going to take a poll. The American people are very tired of this. They're very tired of ice. And this guy Preddy was just an ICU guy at a veterans hospital. I mean, just a regular guy. I don't know if he was a regular guy or not. He's there with a handgun and ammo. That much I know. This segment of the podcast is exclusively sponsored by Pure Talk. PureTalk offers great coverage and can save your family money on your wireless bill every single month. Go to PureTalk.com to find the plan that's right for you. Thank you again for listening and thank you so much for this sponsorship. PureTalk.

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[Mark Levin]

Hello, America. Mark Levin here.

[Rich]

Our number, 8773-8138-1187-7381-3813. I just heard Brett Baer say that they're going to go over that Fox Digital information tomorrow on Fox News. So that's very important and that's very good. But the problem is there are tens of millions of people who are never going to hear about this. Luckily, there's millions of you in the audience, but outside of me and him, nobody's going to hear about this. So I just posted it. I posted the article. And I think we have to take it upon ourselves to email that article or text it to as many people as we know who can read it and will understand what's taking place. It's very important to understand that there is a war going on against ICE and on behalf of illegal immigrants and illegal immigration to empower the Democrat Party, which has become a party with a significant Marxist, socialist, Islamist population. And following now that's what we're up against. Excuse me, I want to talk about Iran. About 40,000 people have been slaughtered in Iran in less than four weeks. Many of the people who are slaughtering the people in Iran who are Persians, are Arabs who were brought in Hezbollah and from militia in Iraq. They're brutalizing these people. You can go online and you can see for yourself. And they have now said that anybody who takes a video and puts it online in any way or in some way will also be executed. The cockroach, the super cockroach, Khomeini is in hiding. He's got a. He's got several very deeply built underground bunkers. It seems to me the Islamists are very good at building these tunnels and bunkers like rats, like cockroaches. And it's quite a labyrinth. There are pictures of it out there. I just want to say this. You know, I've studied this subject of totalitarian regimes, whether they be Marxists or fascists. We've discussed many of them over the decades. And here's the thing. Not until 1944 did the American people, your parents and grandparents, know not even the full extent, but the fact that there was a genocide, an extermination of Jews taking place in Europe for the vast majority of the Holocaust, the American people didn't know about it. They didn't know about it because the New York Times covered it up. The Washington Post covered it up. FDR wanted it covered up, and it was covered up. There were many books written about this. It's also a great book written about the Holocaust against the Ukrainians in 1932, 33, when Stalin was reigning, how that was covered up also by the New York Times.

[Mark Levin]

But, you know.

[Rich]

What'S important to note about what's going on in Iran today is that we know what's going on in Iran today. We know what's taking place in Iran today. We know that more people have been slaughtered in a shorter period of time than really any time I can think of in modern history. And it's still going on. And so I asked myself, and I ask you, Mr. And Mrs. America, what's happened to us? What has happened to the Western world where the best Europe can do is issue statements and condemnations? France and Spain won't even agree that.

[Gordon Chang]

The EU.

[Rich]

Should tag Iran as a terrorist regime. What has happened? And the President is still waiting, weighing options. But the USS Abraham Lincoln is there. It's there right now. Now I'm reading articles, but they're concerned about the drones. They're concerned about, then why did you send it in the first place, at least within reach of the drones. I read they're talking maybe about a cutting off Iran, the ocean, and maybe, and maybe we will take out Khomeini, which is what needs to be done to put an end to this and to protect our country once and for all. And I have hope that that's still going to happen. And yet, And yet there's debate. There's debate. What has happened to us? We're surrounded by morons in the media that keep talking about forever wars. If Iran, if the, if Khomeini is.

[Mark Levin]

Not taken out, that's a forever war.

[Rich]

If he's taken out, it ends. But they don't even know what they're talking about, these people. Or the sloganeering. Then you see this guy, Tucker Carlson, he said he was going to buy a house in Qatar. He's tight with them. And now he's giving a speech in Saudi Arabia. And he's still friends with people in high office, I guess. And every other word out of his mouth is either Israel or Jews. It's just, it's sick. It's, it's unbelievable. Now, this is not what you believe or I believe. It's not about conservatism, constitutional conservatism. It's not about maga, which in many ways is the old Tea Party. You and I stood shoulder to shoulder on these matters. Is the world losing its, its conscience, its morality? Is that what's happening? Well, what's happening? Iran is weaker than it's ever been, ever. He needs to call in Khomeini, does outside terrorists and militia to help kill his own people.

[Mark Levin]

Really.

[Rich]

What's becoming of us? What have we become? I don't know. I don't know. It's none of our business. People keep saying tens of thousands of people being slaughtered and we can actually do say it's not like the Uyghurs in China.

[Mark Levin]

I wish we could, but there's nothing we can do about that. But here you're talking about a regime that still wants to blow us off.

[Rich]

The face of the earth with nuclear weapons. They're not going to stop.

[Mark Levin]

They say, yeah, you took out our sights, but we still have the knowledge.

[Rich]

And we're not stopping. We know what their ideology is. It's the Islamist ideology. It is a bloodlust. It is a murder cult. And they have us in their.

[Mark Levin]

In their focus. We see what their offshoots are doing.

[Rich]

In our own country with these mosques and these communities and so forth. And so on. And now they have a missile that can go 10,000 miles to hit the east coast of the United States. The Communists, the Islamists, all united against you and me, Mr. And Mrs. America.

[Mark Levin]

But they're slaughtering these people. Left. They're not even fighting another country, another army. They're killing their own people this way.

[Rich]

And we're still figuring out what are we going to do about this? What are we going to do? Saudi Arabia is moving hardcore Islamist back. Like what was during 911 when it attacked our country. Let's. Let's stop playing games.

[Mark Levin]

They attacked our country. Okay, Wally, were. No, Saudi Arabia attacked our country, okay?

[Rich]

With its terrorists, with its pilots.

[Mark Levin]

That's what they did. Well, now this Crown Prince.

[Rich]

Who? Everybody.

[Mark Levin]

Oh, he's for the West. The Abraham Accords.

[Rich]

No, he's not.

[Mark Levin]

They used to hate Qatar. Now they're tight with Qatar. They used to hate Erdogan and Turkey. Now they're tight with Turkey. So these are the three. Qatar, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, what else? Saudi Arabia is trying to destabilize the uae. Why do we care? Because the UAE is actually our closest Arab ally in the Middle east and is actually a very good ally. And by the way, are very, very friendly with the State of Israel. In other words, it's showing Arab countries what they can be and should be. Saudi Arabia is now trying to dethrone that monarchy. Saudi Arabia objected to attacks on the Houthis. Saudi Arabia has lobbied our government, our president, along with Qatar and Turkey, not to take out Khomeini. And then look, look at Gaza. The idea that Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey, among others, are going to be on a board of peace. Sorry, I thought we. By the way, I thought we weren't going to do democracy building, but apparently the only place we're going to do democracy building is in Gaza. I'm just pointing it out. Nowhere else. Just there.

[Rich]

Somebody told me the plan is to build $25 billion and build up the area so people will become more assimilated into modernity. Now, ladies and gentlemen, I want you to think about this for a second. These regimes are exporting their Islamists to.

[Mark Levin]

Our country.

[Rich]

Which is an advanced capitalist civilization with all kinds of big buildings.

[Mark Levin]

And movies and everything else. What makes anybody think if you take.

[Rich]

$25 billion and put it in Gaza and build up Gaza, that all of a sudden, or even over a course.

[Mark Levin]

Of years, that people have been indoctrinated for three, four generations to hate the west, to hate Christians, they hate Jews, and to destroy them and kill them in the worst ways possible that that $25 billion is going to be able to do what the United States can't do for the Islamists right here in our own country, which they want to overthrow. That's just my thoughts, just talking out loud. And I don't think it's the President.

[Rich]

By the way.

[Mark Levin]

That some of the people I've mentioned over the course of.

[Rich]

This several year period.

[Mark Levin]

But Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia's back. It's been radicalized again.

[Rich]

It thinks that's how it'll survive and get wealthy and bigger.

[Mark Levin]

Qatar has never stopped.

[Rich]

And of course Turkey's run by a madman, a genocidal maniac who ran a socialist Islamist party and then seized power because that's what socialist Islamists do, like national socialists.

[Mark Levin]

But just because the press isn't covering it, just because Iran is a really a concentration camp where the lights are off, the communications are off and on and on and on, doesn't mean people aren't being slaughtered. Because they are.

[Rich]

And the world doesn't give an S. It just doesn't. I'll be right back.

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[Rich]

I think between the Marxist Islamists and the neo fascists, you'll see the over. Right? I mean, you got a guy like Tucker Carlson who spends a lot of time in Qatar and Saudi Arabia. I don't think he spends any time in Israel, does he, Mr. Producer? Of course not. Well, that's the one democracy that he spends a lot of time in these, these, these police states and he's welcoming them. I had a senator tell me, mark, next time I come to Saudi Arabia, you should come with me. I said, what the hell for? You'd like the crown prince. I said, I don't like him and I'm not going there. They were telling you that Rich. It's true. About three months ago.

[Mark Levin]

You'd like them.

[Rich]

I said, I have no interest in it. You're going to see enormous wealth. You're going to see buildings like you haven't seen since, you know, the late 1700s and France and the monarchy there. I'm thinking to myself, who cares? Think about all the people who've come before who've been slaughtered in these regimes, including my people, the American people on 9 11. I'm not shaking hands with these people. I'm not doing it. The other day was the horrific anniversary of the decapitation of Daniel Pearl. Stunned by KSM and KSM was the mastermind behind 9 11. Now, 911 likely would not have happened but for the fact that the Qataris gave this guy safe haven, gave him cover. The FBI's coming to get him and they let him go. In fact, they helped him to leave when the FBI had to give him, you know, a heads up that they're coming because it's a sovereign country. You know, Qatar is a country of 330,000 people. Look at the power it has. I don't know what the hell's in Saudi Arabia. Quick Google check. Probably a few million. And we and the British found all that oil under that land. They didn't even do that in the case of Qatar, natural gas. And look how rich they are. And they want to destroy our country. Oh, yes, they do. And of course they want to destroy Israel. You know, it's interesting. Israel could take its military today, listen to this. And destroy Saudi Arabia and Qatar and take over both countries and have all.

[Mark Levin]

That oil and natural gas.

[Rich]

If Israel was of the same mindset as Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian terrorists, it would conquer those countries.

[Mark Levin]

But Israel does not conquer countries.

[Rich]

And neither do we. And neither do we. But I have to ask myself, and I do ask myself, not just talking about our country, but the entire west is going to stand by and allow this to take place in Iran against the regime that wants to blow us off the face of the earth against an Islamist Nazi regime that funds the terrorists who attack us, which is in its weakest position since its founding in 1979. It's on its back. I don't know. I don't get it. I'LL be right back. You know what Pure Talk's favorite holiday is? President's Day. Because they believe wireless service should only cost you a couple of presidents.

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[Rich]

Now compare that to big wireless.

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[Rich]

This governor, Minnesota is an absolute wrecking ball. The the amount of fraud and crime that takes place. I remember really that Minnesota wasn't always in the news. It was never in the news, at least not the national news. Nice day. Pretty left wing Democrat farmers, Labor party or whatever the hell it was called. Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale, very liberal, but seemed to be okay. Minneapolis, St. Paul, they used to be considered very nice and safe, safe cities. Remember that, Mr. Medusa? And now look what's happened. You're not allowed to say what's happened is massive migration of the third world, particularly Islamists and this Marxist ideology that is basically the ideology of the Democrat party. See, they want to shut the government down. Now let me say this to you folks. DHS is in charge of tsa, so they want to disrupt your flights even more than the weather, the border patrol. So they don't want our border secured and of course the removal of criminals from our cities. And they don't want to do it. They are owned by the Islamist Marxists. That's their new base. You can see, that's their militia wing. Just as had a militia wing during the George Floyd and BLM riots. Antifa. They're out there too, funded by the hard left. All this stuff's going on and the type of propaganda demagoguery used by these Democrats and their media is really the worst I've ever heard. Ever. And here's this guy, Tim Walsh, who's a nobody from Fox. Prominent Holocaust museum releases scathing response after Walls compares Minnesota children Anne Frank. Do we have that cut, Mr. Producer? Let's listen to this cut three. Go.

[Caller or Guest]

We have got children in Minnesota hiding in their houses, afraid to go outside. Many of us grew up reading that story of Anne Frank. Somebody's going to write that children's story about Minnesota. And there's one person who can end this now.

[Rich]

You understand these politicians are trying to think of the the most horrendous way to draw attention, to grab headlines, and one tries to outdo the next. And now poor Anne Frank, A citizen in her own country, Seized by the Nazis like the rest of her family after hiding, excuse me, in the attic of a neighbor for several years. You heard what he said. The U.S. holocaust Museum posted the following. Anne Frank was targeted and murdered solely because she was Jewish. Leaders making false equivalencies to her experience for political purposes is never acceptable. Despite tensions in Minneapolis, exploiting the Holocaust is deeply offensive, especially as antisemitism surges.

[Gordon Chang]

Yes.

[Rich]

That'S right. And this comment sparked criticism from many on social media. President Donald Trump's anti Semitism envoy, he condemned it. Governor Tim Walsh's decision to compare federal immigration enforcement in Minnesota to Anne Frank and the Holocaust is dangerous, disgusting, and profoundly irresponsible, said retired Minnesota State Patrol Lt. John Nagle, running for Congress as a Republican against Representative Ilion Omar. No matter where people stand on immigration policy or recent enforcement actions, invoking the Holocaust, one of the darkest chapters in human history has no place in responsible public leadership. These comparisons do not clarify the debate, they distort it, he said. Walsh's comment is a troubling pattern rather than an isolated remark he has repeatedly reached for extreme historical analogies. That's the key point, including references to Nazis and the Gestapo when discussing law enforcement and political opponents. That kind of rhetoric matters when elected officials portray police or federal agents as Nazis. They create an environment where protesters can convince themselves that violently confronting law enforcement is not only justified, but morally required. That is how words turn into real world danger. That's right. Blood on the hands of these Democrats. Including him. Including him. Numerous activists across the country views Nazi comparisons while blasting the Trump administration's crackdown on illegal immigrants, including Mexican American journalist Maria Hinojosa compared Latino children in the US To Jewish children during the Holocaust. You believe this crap Saying some fear, abduction and death. Like Anne Frank Waltz appeared to be striking a less inflammatory tone when he was speaking to the President by phone. Look, I don't care. The guy is. The guy is horrendous. He's horrendous in every way. He is. Like I wrote in On Power and we've talked about over many years, this is called agitprop. Agitprop really is a word that Lenin came up with that during and after the revolution in Russia. And the point is to marry propaganda with action. Excuse me, that the purpose of the propaganda is to incite action. Agitprop. A G I T, P R O P. One word. And this is what the Democrats do. Agitprop. It's Leninist, it's Marxist. And that's what they do. And they try to find the most egregious historical examples. We actually have a holocaust going on in Iran today and you don't hear Democrats wanting to do a damn thing about it. You don't. Now many presidents have used, as we talked about, the Insurrection act to put down violent protests, including cases much less serious than when we're seeing in Minnesota. Insurrection Acts been used almost 30 times by presidents of both parties and it was passed early in our republic. President hasn't even used the Insurrection Act.

[Mark Levin]

He hasn't even called in the National.

[Rich]

Guard to put down these organized, violent, Marxist, socialist, Islamist, illegal immigration riots that are taking place. That are taking place. As I discussed at great length in the first hour. It's not even being reported. But now it's Anne Frank. You see, they will use anything. They will say anything. Anne Frank. Here's dangerous anti ICE rhetoric from Walls and Mayor Fry cut one go in Minneapolis.

[Caller or Guest]

We will not cooperate with ICE or any federal agency. What they are doing is causing chaos and distrust. Of course, I bear responsibility to bring down the temperature to ice get the out of us.

[Gordon Chang]

True.

[Caller or Guest]

That's part of my role as mayor. And by the way, protests here in Minneapolis are, are peaceful. The desire to get out and protest.

[Rich]

And, and to speak up to this administration of how wrong this is, that.

[Caller or Guest]

That is a patriotic duty.

[Gordon Chang]

That is a patriotic duty.

[Rich]

We have had. That's enough. So a guy shows up, this guy Preddy, with a pistol and ammunition, Right? And he confronts the ice, the police, federal police, and gets him to skirmish with them. Naveen showed up on January 6th at the Capitol building. What would the Democrats say about that, Mr. Producer? Oh my.

[Mark Levin]

Remember the woman who was shot, killed.

[Rich]

In the Capitol building.

[Mark Levin]

She was unarmed, shot right through the door.

[Rich]

Remember that?

[Mark Levin]

The Democrats defended the shooting and the shooter. Anybody remember that?

[Rich]

Ashley Babbitt?

[Mark Levin]

No, they dismiss it. She shouldn't have been there. She didn't even have a weapon. She didn't even confront the police officer who killed her through a door. But Preddy, who brings a weapon? Well, he was reaching for his phone, but they saw the weapon and they did this. Look, I'm into the Second Amendment. We have weapons. I would never, ever bring them to an event like that, ever. And by the way, why did he have his weapon? Who was he going to defend himself from?

[Rich]

Mr. Producer?

[Mark Levin]

People don't even talk about that. Why did he bring the weapon?

[Rich]

I don't care what anybody else says in the media. I don't care how they want to be considered politically correct. I don't care what the governor of Texas has to say. I don't care especially what the governor of Oklahoma has to say. And we'll play that in a minute.

[Mark Levin]

Watch the end game here.

[Rich]

What kind of an idiot says that? I don't care what the senator from Louisiana has to say.

[Mark Levin]

Not Kennedy.

[Rich]

The other guy whose name I can't remember. Doesn't matter. He's always up there. He's. He's ready to bend his knees. He's such a knee jerk rhino. It's not even Cassidy. That's it. Bill Cassidy. Yeah. I'll be right back. You know what Pure Talk's favorite holiday is? Presidents Day. Because they believe wireless service should only cost you a couple of presidents.

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Now compare that to Big Wireless.

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[Rich]

All right, here's the governor of Oklahoma on Sunday. On Sunday, CNN cut nine. Go.

[Caller or Guest]

But now Americans are asking themselves what is the end game? What is the solution? And you know, we believe in federalism and state rights and nobody likes feds coming into their state.

[Mark Levin]

This has to be one of the.

[Rich]

Dumbest governors I've heard in my life. Federalism. Does he know what the Constitution says about immigration? The federal government has a plenary role in immigration and thank God it does. Or imagine what would be going on all over these blue states. That's number one. Number two, you want to talk about the Constitution, Governor Stitt? Well, states and cities don't have the authority to declare themselves, to declare themselves sanctuary states and cities for the purpose of defying federal constitutional requirements, federal law that is passed under those federal constitutional requirements. Then you ask, what's the end game?

[Mark Levin]

What do you mean, what's the end game? The end game is to remove illegal aliens from our country. That's the end game. I had a real governor, America's Governor Ron DeSantis, on my program Sunday night on Fox. I hope you saw him. They're not in fights with ice. They're working with ice. Every city has to work with ice. That's the state law. They don't have these rioters, they don't have these left wing groups because they make sure that they comply with the law. That's the end game. Governor Stitt of Oklahoma, I'll be right back. With Donald Trump back in office, one of his biggest adversaries, top Democrat Dick Durbin of Chicago, is leading the charge to derail President Trump's agenda at every turn. And now Senator Durbin has a new scheme, a government takeover of your credit card. Right now, Americans have thousands of credit card options, all with equal strong security. But Durbin's plan could result in less security. That means more risk for your credit, your identity and your financial future. Durbin's bill isn't about helping consumers. It's a giveaway to corporate megastores, which could shift costs onto you while putting your rewards and fraud protections in jeopardy. We've seen Durbin's failed policies before. His last big banking regulation backfired, leading to higher costs and fewer benefits for American families. Tell Republican senators, stop Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late. Learn [e-mail] that's guardyourcard.com paid for by the Electronic Payments Coalition.

[Gordon Chang]

He's here.

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[Mark Levin]

Hello America. Mark Levin here.

[Rich]

Our number, 8787-738138-11877-381-3811. Well, communist China at the highest levels has a lot going on. We're gonna have Gordon Chang on in about 15, 20 minutes. Let's read some of these stories about it because they kind of have a different take. Xi has absolute control over Chinese military. Now he wants more. Chinese leader Xi Jinping's decision to place the country's top ranking general under investigation is a stunning move that leaves Xi virtually alone at the top of the military hierarchy, raising deep questions about the implications for the world's largest armed forces as well as Beijing's ambitions to take control of Taiwan. But the purge also makes one thing clear. Xi sees no target as too big to be taken down as he remakes the military according to his vision and.

[Mark Levin]

Prioritizes loyalty over all else.

[Rich]

The investigations into Zhang Zhiji, a battle tested seasoned military commander and longtime Xi ally. In fact, they grew up together. And Liu Xianlie, who heads People's Liberation army joint operations, were announced Saturday in a terse 30 second video released by the Defense Ministry.

[Mark Levin]

A subsequent editorial on the People's Liberation.

[Rich]

Army Daily accused both men of seriously trampling on and undermining the system of ultimate responsibility resting with the central. The commercials hold on, the ads resting with the central Military Commission chairman jargon suggests they were a threat to the thing that matters most, Xi's authority. Now what he does with people like that is he executes, disappears them to use democrat language. The allegations mark an apparent culmination in a ruthless more than decade long effort by Xi to oust opposition and clean up alleged graft. In recent years, that purge has depleted the military's upper echelon with more than 20 senior military officials placed under investigation or ousted since 2023.

[Mark Levin]

Just how deep that effort runs.

[Rich]

Excuse me. Damn it. I got another commercial that jumped in here. Bear with me folks. Some of these websites are very annoying. All right.

[Mark Levin]

The allegation, just how deep that effort.

[Rich]

Runs is now even clearer, is now made even clear in the probe against Zhang. The general had long been seen as an unassailable close ally of Xi. Another princeling son of revolutionaries whose ties with the Chinese leader go back a generation to their fathers who fought together in China's civil war. You understand, their fathers fought in Mao's revolution. Their fathers were very close and so their sons were very close. But it doesn't matter to Xi in the end, does it.

[Mark Levin]

This is potentially a seismic shift in Chinese politics under Xi and how he governs.

[Rich]

This really demonstrates nobody in that system is safe, truly, said Jonathan Zinn, a fellow at the Brookings Institute China Center. Now the purge has reached a crescendo now where it's hit the uppermost echelons of the party, he said. As also former CIA analyst on China, that suggests Xi has concluded the rot.

[Mark Levin]

Is so deep in the PLA and.

[Rich]

The mismanagement so gross at the top that he needs to clean house within an entire generation of leaders. Now we don't know if the corruption charges are accurate. He accuses everybody of corruption and he's probably the biggest rip off artist humanity's ever known. And when it comes to Zhang, the downfall is almost Shakespearean coming within the broader arc of how Xi began by going after enemies, profiting off their positions.

[Mark Levin]

Moved on to target, even those he.

[Rich]

Appointed himself and is now talking down even those with whom he's had a long standing relationship.

[Mark Levin]

For Xi to get rid of a.

[Rich]

Guy like this is really remarkable because.

[Mark Levin]

There'S so little trust and because the politics are so vicious in this system.

[Rich]

Those kind of relationships are even more of a precious commodity. They don't take years to build, they take decades. In this instance, potentially a lifetime. Now the circumstances around Xiang's investigation remain unclear, likely not only to those outside, but also within the black box of China's military, a massive and opaque entity even by China's usual standards, Wall Street Journal reported, citing sources familiar with a high level briefing on the allegations that Zhang had been accused of leaking core technical data on China's nuclear weapons to the United States. This is his buddy. As well as accepting bribes for official acts including the promotion of an officer to defense minister. CNN has not verified those claims and has reached out to China's Defense Ministry for comment. Oh yeah, that's a good idea. Sure they'll give you a comment. But some experts wonder whether allegations of sharing secrets could merely be part of the party's effort to drum up explanations to ease concern within its ranks, rather than legitimate concerns. There's no question about that that now rumors have swirled in the vacuum of information. Those include speculation that Xi losing his grip on power, a theory experts largely reject. I'll be interested to hear what Gordon Chang has to say. Others have focused on whether she is quashing rival factions within the military, which some observers say is plausible if the leader believed infighting was distracting top officials or if Zhang was becoming a challenge to his authority. The official language used in the PLA Daily editorial could suggest that Xiang was becoming too powerful for Xi's liking, according to Neil Thomas, a fellow at the Asian Society Policy Institute for China.

[Mark Levin]

It could also mean simply that he.

[Rich]

Betrayed Xi's trust by helping corrupt the procurement bureaucracy and also not doing his utmost to create a cleaner fighting force. Since coming to power in 2012, Xi has driven a sweeping effort to reshape the military, not just to make it into a modern force able to take on rivals like the United States and back China's territorial claims, but more importantly to defend the party and its leader no matter what. Now listen to me.

[Mark Levin]

That's the key.

[Rich]

The Democrat Party is defending their party in the United States no matter what. The embrace of the Islamists and the Marxists, the embrace of lawlessness. The party is bigger than the country. That's what they believe. The Communist Chinese, excuse me, and the Communist Democrats very similar in that respect. The party comes first. Everything and anything is done for the party and you see that in our country.

[Mark Levin]

That's a goal that's widely seen as driven by Xi's shrewd look at history as he eyes autocratic regimes that have fallen when leaders lost control of the military. It's also one that is closely linked to the organization of China's military, which is controlled by the party, not the state. Got that? Just as the Democrat Party wants to control what ICE does, whether they win elections or lose elections, just like they want to control immigration and the lack of enforcement even when they lose elections on that issue. See that? Just like the Communist Party. That's right, I said it. A massive reorganization and technological modernization have gone hand in hand with an anti corruption drive. Dozens of high ranking military officials and defense sector executives have been taken down.

[Rich]

The latest wave since 2023. This is really an ideological thing. It's less of a corruption thing. But Xi's push to purge even his top brass more likely stands as testament to his power than weakness. The fact that Xi Jinping has been able to cashier so many PLA elites since he assumed power is a clear sign his position in the regime is unassailable. Says James Char, an assistant professor at the Whatever. The latest move now leaves Xi virtually alone at the top of China's military hierarchy. The powerful central military commission he chairs.

[Mark Levin]

Had six uniformed members after a regular.

[Rich]

Leadership reshuffle in 2022. The latest probe leaves just one. Just one. High level ousters have left the PLA leadership in a state of disarray right now, said Thomas barely any officers left at the rank of general. I'm sure there are capable people waiting in the wings, but they'll all be new to senior leadership positions, he said, noting Xi may use the more than 18 months before the next leadership reshuffle to vet new leadership candidates and weed out the influence of existing patronage relations. In the meantime, he has already been tapping second line PLA officers to largely informally fill roles vacated by their disgraced predecessors across both the Central Military Commission departments and branches of the military. We'll be right back.

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[Rich]

All right, we're here with our friend Gordon Chang. He's a senior fellow the Gatestone Institute, one of my favorite organizations, by the way. Gordon, welcome.

[Mark Levin]

All right, let's just ask you the broad question.

[Rich]

What has been happening in Communist China?

[Gordon Chang]

Thank you, Mark. We know that the Ministry of National Defense has reported that General Zhang Yao Shao, who is the number one uniformed officer in China, has been arrested and is under investigation for various crimes. There's also another senior general who has been reported arrested. But beyond that, Mark, we really don't know what's going on. And this is one of the most important things and perhaps the most important inconsequential event in the world today, and we know very little about it. There are so many different rumors. The rumors are that Xi Jinping is in complete control of the Chinese military. Other people are saying that General Zhang is no longer in custody. And if that's true, we have to figure out what's happened. There are rumors that there was a coup. There was a rumor that there was an exchange of gunfire between Xi Jinping's bodyguards and forces loyal to Zhang Yao Shao. And then the beat goes on and on. So, yes, there's a lot occurring, but we just don't know because the regime is so opaque.

[Rich]

Let me ask you this about Xi. I don't think there's been a communist leader as powerful since Mao. Am I wrong about that?

[Gordon Chang]

You're correct about that. He is extremely powerful, but because of what he's doing, he's creating all sorts of dynamics that are undermining his power. So he's pursuing policies that are actually pushing the Chinese economy into contraction. And with his purges in the military, which he's been successful at for more than a decade, he has created even more instability and opposition to himself.

[Rich]

Well, that's what I would think. And yet nobody seems to be able to take him down. Or maybe not yet anyway. Right?

[Gordon Chang]

Not yet anyway. That's absolutely right. And part of it is because senior Communist Party elders, previous leaders, people who have been influential in the past, believe that it's important to maintain the appearance of stability. So although there's a lot of opposition to Xi Jinping, it has not coalesced to the point where they are willing to get rid of him. But there is a lot of unhappiness in the regime right now toward him. And so I think that his position is fragile.

[Rich]

But even in front of his big assembly a couple years back, he basically ridiculed, humiliated and dismissed a former president of China. Correct. And whatever happened to him?

[Gordon Chang]

Yeah, that's Hu Jintao, his predecessor, who was frog marched out of the Communist Party's National Congress. And that was certainly humiliation. Hu Jintao, from some accounts, and I think that they are credible, has been able to exact a certain amount of revenge, which is one of the reasons why, I think, General Zhangya Shao felt that he had the support of the elders to get rid of Xi Jinping. Now, Xi Jinping was, I think, in trouble last year. He consolidated his position, and people like Hu Jintao have again been marginalized.

[Rich]

So you think that former president's still alive?

[Gordon Chang]

Yes. And then we've seen him once in public, and that was at the memorial service for Jiang Zemin, who was Hu Jintao's predecessor. But there are reports that after he was frog marched out of the national park, out of the Communist Party's National Congress, that he was placed under essentially house arrest, and so were his family members. So this has been an ongoing struggle between Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping.

[Rich]

And yet that prior president still has to have some clout, you're telling me.

[Gordon Chang]

Yes, because in the Communist Party system, elders do have a substantial amount of influence. And so it would be people like Hu Jintao, although he was humiliated in public, nonetheless has networks of influence. When Hu Jintao was General Party secretary, in other words, the ruler of China, he was the head of a faction in the party called the Communist Youth League. Now, Xi Jinping, when he became General Secretary, tried to eliminate the factions, and to a large extent, he was successful. But nonetheless, there are a lot of people who identify with the communist truthfully, although they may not openly say it. And they do maintain these informal networks of influence.

[Rich]

This is fascinating to me. It's kind of sick, but it is fascinating to me. How did he. How did he get so powerful where others before him didn't? Is it just his ambition? And others just figured, I'll put in my 10 years and move on?

[Gordon Chang]

That's a great question. First of all, Hu Jintao was a consensus leader, and he was considered to be weak. And during Hu's tenure, which was 10 years, China drifted. Although it was successful in large measure, it drifted. And so there was a consensus among Communist Party officials and elders that they needed a strong figure. And so Xi Jinping fit the bill. And what Xi did was he decided he was not only going to be stronger than his predecessor, he was going to try to rival Mao Zedong, the founder of the People's Republic, in power. And so he ruthlessly went after people who he considered to be his political enemies. And he not just marginalized them, he. He imprisoned them, he stripped them of their assets, he went after their families. And that created a large measure of opposition. People didn't feel that they could move against Xi Jinping, but they have been waiting for the time when they felt it was safe to do so, because there are a lot of people in Beijing, in the senior reaches of the Communist Party, who would like nothing more than to send Xi Jinping into some prison.

[Rich]

Yeah, but this is the big thing, right? His top general, the general of generals has now been removed.

[Gordon Chang]

Yes. At least that's the majority view of what's happened. And I think that that probably is right. But we know that General Zhang Yao Shao has a lot of people who owe him their careers. They're not giving up. So they know that Xi Jinping will go hard after them, which means, I think, that they believe that they might strike because they feel that they have nothing to lose. When you make people desperate and Xi Jinping has made people desperate, then they will do desperate things. And this was a hallmark of Mao Zedong's rule. And what happened after Mao died in 1976 was that there was a feeling that Mao had gone too far in being relentless. And so there was sort of like a live and let live philosophy that governed Communist Party politics. Xi Jinping, his motto is, I live, you die. And sometimes that very well, may be literal.

[Rich]

I want to ask you about that when we come back. I mean, you've talked about hell, he'll strip them of this, that and take their property away. Are there mass executions or significant executions that take place after events like this where he just blows these people out? And if he studies these regimes in the past that have fallen, I suspect he's of the mind from time to time to execute and to rid himself of these people. And what is your take on this, general? Was he moved out because he wanted to move him out? I'm still trying to get my hands around this. We'll be right back.

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[Rich]

Gordon Chang, Senior Fellow, one of my favorite organizations, Gatestone Institute. One of my favorite guests, Gordon Chang. Gordon, let me ask you this question. Actually, with all this tumult going on, is China really in a position at least in the next year or two to invade Taiwan?

[Gordon Chang]

I don't think so, Mark. Even before all of this turmoil, I don't think Xi Jinping was going to start hostilities by invading the main island of Taiwan. First of all, to do that, this is a combined air, land, sea operation. It means that Xi Jinping has to give some general or admiral almost complete control over the Chinese military, which makes that figure the most powerful person in China. And even on his most secure days, Xi Jinping was not willing to do that. So I don't think he's willing to do it now at a time of turmoil. Plus, also, an invasion of Taiwan would be extremely unpopular with the Chinese people because although the people in Taiwan don't think they're Chinese, the people in the mainland think they are because of decades of indoctrination. And you will hear Chinese people say, whether they're high officials or the guy on the street, they will say, quote, chinese do not kill Chinese. And of course, an invasion of Taiwan would kill hundreds of thousands of Chinese on both sides. And the other thing is that the Communist Party, despite what it says, is casualty averse. And so Xi Jinping would invade Taiwan only if he thought that he could get a victory and that victory would be bloodless. Now, with all the turmoil in the Chinese military, it makes it much more difficult because General Zhang Yao Shao, who was number one officer, he is about one of the few officers left who has any combat experience. Everybody else, they've never had that. And so the Chinese military is now much less capable than it once was. But one other thing, just because they're not going to invade Taiwan, in my belief, I think that the chance of war is high. And the reason is that Xi Jinping believes, in my view, he believes that a high degree of tension is in his personal interest because that will prevent other Communist Party figures from challenging him. And so he's provoking incidents from India and the south to South Korea in the North. And if one of those goes wrong, it could go really, really wrong and embroil the entire East Asia in war.

[Rich]

I mean, he's even taking on Japan lately, isn't he?

[Gordon Chang]

He did. November 7, the new Japanese Prime Minister, Takiichi Sanai, in response to a question on the floor of the Diet, said that if China were to invade Taiwan, that would be a, quote, survival threatening situation. That's a phrase from the 2015 National Security Law of Japan. And it would allow her to mobilize the Self Defense Forces. Well, Beijing threw a fit. And it was not only propaganda, it was economic pressure, all sorts of stuff. And they have not been able to get her to retract her statement. And she became incredibly popular because she was standing up to Xi Jinping. So China looks a little hollow in that they were not able to get what they considered to be an inferior country and a woman to boot, that they couldn't get her to back down. And so China is furious.

[Rich]

In fact, isn't Japan building up its military now?

[Gordon Chang]

It is. There is. Taki's predecessor, Sheba, had basically signed on to a program of increasing defense spending by 50% over five years. The question is, where is Japan going to get the money? Because its economy is not very good. But the point is there's now a sense throughout Japan, throughout the elites, that they've got to spend more on defense because China is threatening them. So China is creating this sort of coalition against it throughout the region as countries are now starting to cooperate a lot more and cooperate with Taiwan, as Japan is doing.

[Rich]

You've got Japan, they've threatened South Korea, they've threatened the Philippines. Of course, they're fighting over islands there. They're threatening Australia, even threatening Vietnam, aren't they?

[Gordon Chang]

Yes. And that has been for quite some time. China claims about 85, 80% of the South China Sea. Although it's international water, it's engaged in some very belligerent tactics, especially against Philippines at places like Scarborough Shoal, 2nd Thomas Shoal, Sandy Key. And sometimes the Chinese humiliate themselves, as they did in August at Scarborough Shoal, where a Chinese destroyer collided with a Chinese coast guard ship and killed at least four coast guardsmen. And so China's been throwing a fit since then at Scarborough because they believe that they need to get revenge against the Philippines.

[Rich]

But. But their own ships banged into each other, right?

[Gordon Chang]

That's right.

[Rich]

So are you getting revenge against the Philippines?

[Gordon Chang]

I'm not saying it's logical, Mark. I'm just saying that's the way they're.

[Rich]

Thinking now in terms of their economy. Their economy's constantly hurting, isn't it?

[Gordon Chang]

Yes, well, they. Yeah, about 10 days ago, they reported 5.0% growth for 2025. I don't think so. There's a group called Rhodium which does very detailed analysis of the Chinese economy. They think the Chinese economy grew 2.5 to 3% last year. I think you better case for like 1%, maybe zero, maybe negative one. But we're seeing a lot of underlying indicators that suggest contraction. But however fast they're growing, even if they were growing at 5, 0, they're not growing fast enough to retire the debt they've accumulated, especially since 2008. So China right now is in a very, very difficult position. And Xi Jinping's policies are making things worse.

[Rich]

He's driving economy down. What's he doing?

[Gordon Chang]

He believes that China should become a manufacturing powerhouse and that consumption should not be the basis of the Chinese economy. So he's put a lot of money into factories. That's created deflation. Once you start creating deflation, people stop buying, which means that the economy becomes even more fragile. The only way out is that they can export more, and they were very good at exporting last year. $1.19 trillion trade surplus. But there was a lot of buts to that, and it's not as good as it sounds. So right now, the Chinese economy is essentially, you know, on a. It's flatlining. And I think that people in China, very pessimistic country right now, they do not like what they're seeing. Because they're seeing basically a contraction for the first time in their lives. Covid was a shock. They, everybody thought that they would recover fast. It didn't recover fast. And China's right now, I think, on a trend line for zero or contraction for a very long period.

[Rich]

But it still isn't giving up its ambitions in a significant way. I mean, there it is sending plane load after plane load after plane load of something or other to Iran, right?

[Gordon Chang]

Yes, 16 cargo planes by the last count. And these are like planes which rival the size of our C17s. So these are big cargo planes. Right now, China's not giving up its ambitions, but because of President Trump, it's suffered one setback after another, especially after May of last year when Trump went through that triumphal tour of three Gulf states. So China's been on the back foot for quite some time. And of course, they've lost their Venezuelan ally. They could very well lose what's their Iranian proxy. And so this is not a good story for Xi Jinping, but he's not giving up because he believes that he should rule the world. And I mean, if he believes he.

[Rich]

Should rule the world now, he lost Venezuela's oil. Well, maybe he's getting it, but not, not the same way he used to. And he could lose Iran's depending on what happens there. Then what does he do?

[Gordon Chang]

His factory has to pay a lot more. Yeah, he's in big trouble. You know, Trump said that he would sell China Venezuelan oil, but Trump didn't say. And this was the important thing from China's point of view, Trump is not going to sell it at a discount. And that's what China was counting on, because Venezuela owes China somewhere between 12 and 20 billion dollars. And the way, the only way Venezuela could pay that back was to sell oil at these hefty discounted prices. And so Chinese factories have gotten used to cheap energy. They're not getting that anymore. And if they lose Iran, which is even more important to them from an energy point of view, then they're in a world of hurt.

[Rich]

Now, if people want to follow you, where do they go?

[Gordon Chang]

At Twitter X@Gordon G C H A N G. And I archive all my articles for free on my website, which is www.gordon C-H-A n g dot com.

[Rich]

All right, my friend, thanks for everything you do. You're fantastic. And best your wife, too.

[Gordon Chang]

Well, thank you so much, Mark, and best to Julie and thank you for this opportunity.

[Rich]

You're welcome. And God bless you, brother. He's fantastic. Gordon Chang. Excuse me. I must be getting the cold from this weather. I hate the damn snow. Hate it, hate it. I'll be right back.

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[Rich]

Get that cut on Christy Gnome. Talking about what happened to that guy, this producer. Yeah. All right, I want to play that cut. 14, Kristi Noem.

[Caller or Guest]

Go about. Hundreds of protesters then showed up at the scene. They began to obstruct and to assault law enforcement officers. We saw objects being thrown at them, including ice and other objects. And a rampant assault began. And even an HSI officer agent's finger was bitten off.

[Rich]

Crowd control, stop right there. Got that? Was bitten off. Bitten off. That's so. Go ahead.

[Caller or Guest]

Were deployed to bring safety to the public and to law enforcement at the scene.

[Rich]

Now they want to impeach her, now they trash her. Because of the optics, America, because of the optics. I don't think Reagan would give a damn about the optics. I don't believe Trump will give a damn about the optics. The optics are intended to look bad because this is what they, the Marxists do, this is what the Democrats do. So when you have a ridiculous governor of Oklahoma and others, what's the end game here? Excuse me. This is why Trump is so unique. This is why Reagan was so unique. These are unprincipled individuals who are in powerful positions to do what? What are we supposed to do? Let 20 million illegal aliens stay? And the worst of the worst of them. Have you ever seen these kinds of protests or objections when an American citizen is murdered, When a little girl is raped and murdered by an illegal alien? We have their names, we put them out.

[Mark Levin]

President puts them out. Congress puts them out.

[Rich]

Republicans, nobody even blinks twice.

[Mark Levin]

Democrats don't blink at all.

[Rich]

But here, the world's coming to an end.

[Mark Levin]

It's really.

[Rich]

Appalling, quite frankly. Let's go to Mike in Utah. XM satellite Mike, go right ahead, please.

[Mike]

Hey, Mark, first time caller, long time listener.

[Rich]

Thank you. Mike.

[Mike]

First want to say I'm a 27 year Coast Guard veteran that God bless because of their humanitarian mission. I love what they've done. They're involved in life saving and still life taking. So I'm a peace loving guy, but I just can't.

[Rich]

So hold on one second. So you actually were on a boat?

[Mike]

Well, I was on a ship part of the time. Most of my time was on land in Kodiak, Alaska and wow, Washington. I was storekeeper running payroll mainly.

[Rich]

So I only ask you that because I would get nauseous on those damn boats with those big waves. Anyway, go right ahead.

[Gordon Chang]

Yep.

[Mike]

Well, I'm wondering why we aren't considering all these brought in communists and the socialists and even Islamists as terrorists and putting them in jail.

[Rich]

You're not allowed to say that, sir. That apparently is very provocative. They may not be terrorists, but if they're attacking ice, they're definitely criminals, aren't they?

[Mike]

Well, the fact of the matter is they're anti America. As a longtime patriot, I believe those who come to our country and want to overthrow it, which includes a lot of American citizens, even that the president takes an oath to protect us from enemies foreign and domestic. And I think that these people want to change our way of government. They want to get rid of our Democratic.

[Rich]

Well, I definitely don't disagree with you. I mean, I definitely agree with you. And this is a big deal. And I hope we're not pulling back, stepping back just because of the media and these extremists in the Democrat Party. Thank you for your call, my friend. The next battle is going to be closing the government.

[Mark Levin]

We salute our armed forces, police officers, firefighters, emergency personnel, our truckers, especially in bad weather, man, the men and women in Ukraine, the men and women in Israel, the men and women in Iran, and you, the American people, thank you and God bless you, and I'll see you tomorrow.