3/10/26 - America's Role in Reshaping Iran's Future

Summary

Podcast Summary: Mark Levin Podcast

Episode: "America's Role in Reshaping Iran's Future"
Date: March 11, 2026
Host: Mark Levin
Guest: Dr. James Lindsay

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Episode Overview

This episode delves into America’s military strategy in Iran, the necessity of a clear post-conflict plan, the divisive influence of certain high-profile right-wing media figures, and the rise of anti-American and anti-Semitic narratives within the political right. Mark Levin invokes historical analogies (Japan, Germany, WWII) and conservative principles, while welcoming Dr. James Lindsay to discuss the ideological infiltration seeking to divide American society, with a special focus on Russia’s multipolar strategies and the manipulation of patriotism.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. America’s Strategy in Iran: Victory Requires More Than Military Success

[02:16–09:01, 32:30–38:30, 43:10–44:45]

• Military vs. Political Victory:

  • Levin warns that simply decapitating Iran’s leadership and military without a plan for aftermath will create a power vacuum. "If we leave the vacuum... we could lose the war after our forces withdraw from that area, which means all of this would be for naught." – Mark Levin [02:16]
  • He rejects broad "democracy projects" or massive troop deployments but stresses careful planning for Iran’s future government.

• Historical Parallel:

  • Levin draws an analogy to post-WWII Japan: "We wrote their constitution. We had to approve who took over. We didn't fight and lose so many men to leave it the chance." [03:59]
  • Emphasizes need for "focused thought to what comes after" clear military victory to prevent chaos or hostile takeovers [32:30].

• Economic and Media Pressure:

  • Critiques media focus on gas prices as a factor threatening U.S. resolve: "If we lose what we've done here as a result of complaints about the cost of a gallon of gasoline... what a disaster and horror that would be." [04:01]

• Military Operations Update:

  • Pete Hegseth and General Kane brief on successful strikes against Iran's missile, naval, and drone capabilities: "Ballistic missile attacks continue to trend downward, 90% from where they've started... a testament to our air defenders..." – Gen. Kane [43:33]

2. Leadership, Prudence, and the Conservative Agenda

[21:00–28:29; 47:23–48:08; 53:59–57:03]

• Philosophy & Decision-Making:

  • Levin invokes Aristotle, "prudence and virtue," [21:00] in political decision-making, arguing for wisdom over ideological rigidity: "When decisions are made, like a president making a decision, it cannot be ideological." [22:14]
  • Warns against the new isolationists, likening their logic to “suicide.” [24:14]

• Critique of Isolationist Rhetoric:

  • Denounces slogans like "no more forever wars" as simplistic and dangerous. "What it means is you don't want stupid wars. But that's not what they mean. They mean never take military action. Never. Unless we're struck first. That's called suicide." [28:29]
  • Points out Rand Paul's strict non-interventionism as ideological and unworkable: "He's an isolationist, no matter what the threat." [57:17]

3. The Danger of Internal Division & the Influence of Right-Wing Media

[11:48–19:24; 39:14–42:08; 78:02–84:31]

• Who’s Watching Whom: Audience Analysis

  • Levin cites polling: 91% of MAGA support Trump’s handling of Iran, but right-wing figures like Carlson, Kelly, Bannon, and Owens oppose the war, suggesting their audiences are not core conservatives. "Their audience is filled with leftists and anti-Semitic foreigners... they are not Trump supporters, they are not MAGA..." [14:37]
  • Claims these figures “play the hate America card, they play the anti-Jew card, the anti-Christian card because they're playing to the left...” [15:12]

• Unpatriotic Narratives:

  • These right-wing influencers are accused of undermining the war effort, with Levin asserting: "Our enemies at home and abroad really make up their audience." [16:44]

• Public Rebuke at Conservative Event:

  • Salutes Senators Cotton and Cruz for denouncing anti-Semitism and right-wing influencers’ divisive rhetoric: "If it's too difficult to denounce people who embrace Nazism and neo-fascism, well then you're in the wrong party." [19:11]

• “Influencers” Not Actually Influential:

  • Cotton: "The answer is the old-fashioned word 'influential' does not apply to them...they are at least not influential with Donald Trump... or normal voting Republicans..." [81:25–82:14]

4. Russian Ideological Strategies & the "Woke Reich"—with Dr. James Lindsay

[85:44–101:26; 94:50–96:44]

• Russian & Foreign Subversion:

  • Dr. Lindsay describes a Russian "Red Team–Blue Team" approach designed to divide the American right and destabilize U.S. society: "Their bread-and-butter kind of political warfare operations are [to] split any movement into two factions." [90:32]

• Multipolarity & Dugin:

  • Explains Alexander Dugin’s "multipolarity" as central to Russia’s plan—splitting world power among competing poles to undercut U.S. strength and elevate authoritarian regimes. [90:32–92:03]
  • Notes Steve Bannon’s links to Dugin and shared ideological roots in “mystical traditions” that combine elements of fascism and Marxism [94:50–96:44].
  • Lindsay: "The idea is to reorganize the Republican Party around this new radical right-wing politics that's been excluded for 75 years from the American project." [86:38]

• Weaponizing Antisemitism:

  • Argues that attacks on Jewish-Christian unity serve the authoritarian project, undermining America’s moral cohesion. "If they can convince young Protestants to abandon those theological convictions…they can really reshape politics in America." [92:17]

• Infiltration & Entryism:

  • Describes how “woke right” figures use Communist entryism tactics to gain positions of power and force out real patriots.

• Parental Warning:

  • Urges parents: "If you avoided your children going in the direction of trans, they are trying to get your children in the direction of fascism and Nazism." [100:27]

5. Voter ID Laws and Democrat Strategy

[59:29–71:35]

• Save America Act:
  • Levin pushes back against claims that voter ID laws are racist (Jim Crow 2.0): "Everybody knows you need an ID for a thousand different things..." [60:34]
  • Asserts Democrats oppose ID laws to facilitate voter fraud and increase their power: "They're relying on illegal aliens to muscle up the number of congressional districts and electoral college votes." [63:33]
  • Caroline Levitt: "The Save America act does not prohibit anyone from voting with the exception of illegal aliens...it’s frankly insulting that the Democrats are saying there are certain groups...who aren't smart enough to update their documentation." [66:41]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Victory in Iran:

"The only one who can defeat our mission in Iran is us. ...The goal is to defeat this enemy...If we leave the vacuum...it will regenerate." – Mark Levin [02:16]

On Postwar Planning:

“We must give focused thought to what comes after. ...if a void is created and we don't fill it, it will be filled. ...by the communist Chinese and ...the fascistic Russians.” – Mark Levin [32:30]

On Audience of Right-Wing Media Critics:

"Our enemies at home and abroad make up their audience. ...the vast majority of their audience has to be these elements." – Mark Levin [16:44]

On Influence and Anti-American Messaging:

"They play the hate America card...the anti-Jew card, the anti-Christian card...playing to the Democrats and...anti-Semites in Pakistan..." – Mark Levin [15:12]

On Presidential Prudence:

“When decisions are made...it cannot be ideological...these podcasters...don’t mean America First—they mean Fortress America.” – Mark Levin [22:14]

On Russian Subversion:

"The Russians...split [movements] into two factions...divide and conquer...Their goal is to undermine American and Western strength so other players can rise." – Dr. James Lindsay [90:32]

On Antisemitism as a Tool:

"If they can divide Americans over whether or not they support Israel...they can split American conservatives. ...Israel becomes not just an object they attack, but the object they attack with. ...they are attacking the United States by getting us to fight over this." – Dr. James Lindsay [92:17]

On “Influencers” and Real Power:

"They are not influential with Donald Trump ...not with Republicans in the Senate ...and least of all with normal voting Republicans." – Senator Tom Cotton [81:25–82:14]

On Conservative Courage:

"There is a power to fearlessness. There is a power to speaking the truth and letting the idiots say what they will.” – Senator Ted Cruz [76:34]

On the Stakes:

"What I'm talking about is Americanism, the survival of our liberty. That's the bottom line." – Mark Levin [32:30]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Start of substantive commentary: [02:14]
• Iran strategy, historical analogies: [02:16–09:01]
• Polling, commentary on right-wing “influencers”: [11:48–19:24]
• Historical cases (Japan, Germany), lessons for postwar Iran: [32:30–38:30]
• Military updates (Hegseth, Kane): [39:56–44:45]
• Press briefing on Iran strategy and nuclear threat: [45:05–47:48]
• Aristotle, philosophy in statecraft: [21:00–28:29]
• Republican leadership event (Cotton, Cruz on antisemitism, influencers): [75:13–84:31]
• Voter ID & Save America Act debate: [59:29–71:35]
• Dr. James Lindsay interview (Russian subversion, Woke Reich, fascist entryism): [85:44–101:26]
• Levin’s final warning about American unity, influence operations: [105:45–108:50]

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Closing Tone

Mark Levin’s tone is urgent and combative, steeped in historical perspective and concerns for American constitutional values and military strength. The episode flows from a call to strategic clarity in Iran, through the perils of internal ideological subversion, to a call for vigilance against both foreign and domestic threats to American unity: “What I'm talking about is Americanism, the survival of our liberty. That's the bottom line." [32:30]

Transcript

[Mark Levin]

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Hello America.

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Mark Levin here.

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Our number, 8773-8138-1187-7381-38111. Welcome. The only one who can defeat our mission in Iran is us. Is us. The goal is to defeat this enemy. What does that mean? Take out their air force, their navy, their leadership and leave. Well, that's not defeating an enemy. That's defeating their air force, their navy and their leadership. They have secret police, they have an entire army, infantry. They have all this sort of stuff that's there. And so it will regenerate if we leave the vacuum. This is not an argument for a democracy project. It's not an argument for hundreds of thousands of troops. It's not an argument for any of that. But I wrote a piece over at Fox News Digital. I think it was published a week or 10 days ago.

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And I said we need to be

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thinking about what's going to happen once we are victorious over these elements of the Iranian regime. I don't think we're giving it enough thought, quite frankly. Now maybe the president is and maybe his people are, but we the people and certainly the media, what's to come. Now the prince has said, look, I'll,

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I'll be an interim leader for 100 days.

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He put out an entire plan. It's on the Internet. Looks like a very good plan to me. And there are others potentially, I suppose.

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But if we're going to allow the

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price of a gallon of gasoline be determinative on what I thought was a conditions based military operation, not a time based military operation which we could lose, not even lose the peace, we could lose the war after our forces withdraw from that area, which means all of this would be for naught. And I don't want it all to be for naught. I want us to be victorious. And we can be victorious. It matters, the government that's there. When we defeated Japan, which you'll remember, they attacked us on December 7, 1941. We demanded an unconditional surrender. And they sent word through emissaries to the Truman administration that they would accept the surrender, but not unconditional. And Truman said, no, unconditional. We didn't fight like this and lose all these men. And the horrors of the. The Japanese government for some conditional surrender. It's unconditional or nothing. And they refused. So he dropped the first atomic bomb, and they refused again. So they dropped the second atomic bomb, a completely different atomic bomb, and that was it. That's all we had, two atomic bombs. So they're hoping they would work. I'm not suggesting dropping nuclear missiles and so forth, but that's not my point. This enemy has no navy, has no air force. Their missiles are being destroyed. It's been a fantastic, spectacular military operation and campaign. But the end goal has to make sure, has to be sure that it cannot regenerate. Remember how this started. The president promised the Iranian people that he would come to their rescue. And people are saying the Iranian people need to be able to rise up. There's no question about that. But their army is still heavily armed. They still have tanks. They still have armored personnel carriers. They still have the equivalent of bazookas and automatic weapons. And on and on and on. I have to hope that we're arming the opposition there. I hope we are. I hope we're doing other things. I really do. But if we lose what we've done here as a result of complaints about the cost of a gallon of gasoline seven, eight months before the midterm elections, what a disaster and horror that would be. I heard somebody on TV say we never. We never replace a government after a victory and tell them what to do. It's a lot of ignorance. Japan is what I was pointing out. We certainly did determine what that government would look like. We wrote their constitution. We had to approve who took over. We didn't fight and lose so many men to leave it the chance. And we ought not leave this to chance, ladies and gentlemen. We must not. If the purpose of the battle, the purpose of military action was needed in the first place, and it was then, you can't leave it to chance. You just can't. Again, to stress, I'm not pushing a democracy project of any kind. I'm not pushing anything other than we take the time to really figure out how we want this to be handled. And as I say, maybe the President and his people already have and they choose not to convey it. But I hear an awful lot of pressure. Endless news reports on the price of gasoline. We didn't have endless news reports on the price of gasoline when it was far more expensive than it is today as a result of climate change, ideology and religion. When they were shutting down leases, shutting down drilling sites, shutting down federal lands, making it difficult, very difficult to produce oil domestically and to refine it, we didn't have those charts popping up showing us day by day how much the price of gasoline was going up. It's almost $5 a gallon for a premium. Almost $5 a gallon. And they drove up the price of automobiles by like 4 or $5,000.

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Remember all that.

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The expenses were enormous.

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And this is temporary. It's temporary.

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There's plenty of oil. But the world is worried about what happens to the straits where 20% of the oil passes, not 20% of our oil. But there's a world market out there. That would be temporary, especially if the Iranian regime and its entrails were eliminated. The straits would be wide open. I'm just cautioning you now because I heard almost a complete change in tone. It could be three weeks, four weeks, five weeks to where we're pretty much done. You know, we'll be out of there soon enough and we'll see. By the way, a footnote for you folks out there. As you know, I worked for President Reagan for eight years and I worked for several Cabinet members, including the Attorney General, United States. We've had this discussion before. I've never written a book, an essay, a tweet. I've never said anything behind this microphone or on TV about any of the confidential discussions I had with any of those officials. Not once in all the years I've been doing this. I am deeply troubled. When people talk to the President of the United States, either he seeks them out or they seek him out. And then they go to Politico or the newspapers of the Wall Street Journal or the Washington Post or Axios, wherever they go, and they start talking about their discussions with the President of the United States, they want to pat themselves on the head. They want to pat other people on the head. Look at me. Look at me. I find it very disloyal. Any president and Cabinet secretaries, they have a right to confidentiality when they're seeking information or when somebody is providing an unsolicited it's very troubling to me. It very much is. And so when I see names attached to that, I really, I cringe. It's bad enough that you have anonymous leakers who are basically traitors trying to persuade the President or push the agenda in one direction or the other. That's bad enough when you have people saying the president did this because I told him and I told him this and you got to get him on a certain day with a certain weather, in front of a certain sandwich or whatever, whatever they say that is unacceptable to me. We'll be right back.

[Show Announcer]

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[Mark Levin]

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But 91% of you support it and support the President and the troops. And so the logical conclusion with a mathematical certainty is that the vast majority of the people who are watching these podcasts are not Trump supporters, are not maga, are not conservatives and are not Republicans. The vast majority.

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This also explains why they play the hate America card.

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They play they hate the military card

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about the military raping, as Carlson said the other day, they play the anti

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Jew card, the anti Christian card because they're playing to the left, they're playing to the Democrats and they're playing the anti Semites in Pakistan and places like that. That is exactly what's going on. And these elements on the left, the Islamists, the Marxists, the Democrats and so forth, they love what Kitarlsson saying, what Meager Kelly is saying, what Bloated Bannon is saying, what Eva Braun Owens is saying. They love it. They love the sort of chaos they're trying to create. And so our enemies at home and abroad really make up their audience. Really make up their audience. It's a brilliant point and the numbers bear it out. 91% of MAGA supporters support the President's

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handling of the situation in Iran.

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6% disapprove. 83% of Republicans approve. 11% disapprove. So where are all these viewers coming from for individuals who are in the 6%? Well, they're not coming from Republicans, they're not coming from maga, they're not coming from conservatives, they're not coming from people who actually embrace their Christian faith and

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their Jewish faith and so forth and so on.

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They're coming from the enemy or they're coming from bigots and racists overseas. They're coming from Democrats and leftists. That is the audience that is enriching Katarlsen, Meager Kelly, Bloated Bannon, Eva Braun Owens. This is their audience, These are their people. It also meshes up with the Democrat Party. That's wide open to the Marxists and the Islamists, wide open to foreigners coming into the country. Wide open to the trash mouthing of Christianity and Jews and denying the Judeo Christian belief system. Wide open to these people. That's who their audience is. Now, maybe it wasn't always their audience. Maybe many of you used to be in their audience. But the truth is the vast majority of their audience has to be these elements has to be.

[Mark Levin]

So we shouldn't be listening to them. The president shouldn't be, not that he is the vice president shouldn't. The cabinet members shouldn't, members of Congress shouldn't. Many members of Congress are cowards and I include especially Republicans who won't call these people out. There was a wonderful event with National Review and Republican Jewish Coalition on the issue of anti Semitism. Many Christians spoke out, leading Christians, many politicians who are Christian, not Jews, Jews spoke out as well. I want to give a salute to Senator Cotton, to Senator Cruz and the others who spoke out because ladies and gentlemen, the Republican establishment in Washington D.C. other than a handful of is silent. Top people in the administration, other than the President and the Secretary of Defense and Secretary of State are silent. That's not going to fly. It's certainly not going to fly where we Levinites, the millions of us. If it's too difficult to denounce people who embrace Nazism and neo fascism, well then you're in the wrong party.

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But this is a very very important

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revelation that the following significant following that

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these individuals have are not red blooded Americans patriots. Quite the opposite.

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I'll be right back. Some major US banks are publishing aggressive gold scenarios for 2026, some as high as about $6,300 an ounce. While nothing about the future is guaranteed, the market has already moved faster than many expected. Meanwhile central banks have been accumulating gold and some estimates show that gold holdings now exceeding U.S. treasury holdings signaling gold's long term confidence. Monetary gold has over 25 years helping Americans understand physical gold and silver with an education first no pressure approach and support for IRA eligible options. Monetary gold as a complimentary guide to help you understand precious metals. Call them right now 877-Now-Gold or visit Mark loves gold.com request the free guide.

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[Mark Levin]

When you look online. When you look online at all the people who say the most hateful things imaginable. The most hateful things imaginable. Well, I don't believe those are our people either. Some of them no doubt. But most of them know. Most of them know. That's not who we are. That's not who we are. Liberty's Voice today is a great show and you can check it out on rumble and YouTube. And I actually decided to jump into Aristotle and look at a couple of words that I think are important, especially now, words like prudence and virtue and morality, all of which Aristotle wrote about at great length. The genius of all geniuses, really. He was a student of Plato. Plato was a student of Socrates. But Aristotle was incredible, as were others. But to me, he was, in terms of ancient philosophers, truly number one. And I'm not alone. Your founding fathers felt exactly the same way. And so I went from Aristotle and focused on mostly prudence and virtue. What do they mean? Why are they important? Why are they important in your own life? I think that's relatively obvious. But why are they important in our polity, in our society and our culture? And when decisions are made, like a president making a decision, it cannot be ideological. Hey, no forever wars. Hey, hey, America first, when they don't even know what they're talking about. And most of the people who say that, these podcasters, they don't mean America first, they mean Fortress America, a phrase that Ronald Reagan used to denounce the isolationists. You can't have other countries arming up for war, and we're isolationists. And you can't have. You can't wait for nuclear missiles to be in flight before you realize there's an imminent threat. So this is irrational. This is illogical. Go back and read George Washington's farewell address. A lot of the isolationists use it

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to say, see that?

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He said no foreign entanglements. George Washington was referring to what? France and Britain, the two most fireable armies on the face of the earth. The United States was being pulled by one and the other to join ranks with one or the other. And even within his cabinet, he had had individuals who were in support of one or the other. Jefferson, the French, Hamilton, the British. And the country was largely divided as well. And that's what he meant. No foreign entanglements. He didn't mean don't have any allies. And he also says in that speech it's important to have allies. And he says in subsequent speeches

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that

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it's important to have a military that's ready to fight and that foreign adversaries and enemies be aware that we're able and ready to fight. I've studied that man backwards and forwards. As I have most of them. As I have most of them. No president can look down the silo of a potential nuclear weapon in an enemy that says, we're going to have 11 nuclear weapons in 10 days and sit on his hands. No rational president could do that. The Democrats though, they had one that paved the way for nuclear weapons, Obama and the other that was paying for them, Biden. And you can see the Democrat party is an institution the way that they're trying to undermine our military and our president. Much like those individuals I'm talking about the Woke Reich, neo fascist isolationists, they are giving aid and comfort to the enemy, which is exactly why they are quoted by the enemy. They are quoted by the enemy. And there is a reason they hate Netanyahu too, apart from a lot of the reasons we already know, because he is an incredibly successful leader of Israel. And for the left and the Democrats, when Netanyahu, I think it was 2015, spoke to a joint meeting of Congress and I was in the gallery watching it, denouncing the Iran deal, denouncing in his own way, as politely as he could, the Obama deal. The Democrats turned on Netanyahu and the state of Israel from that point forward and forevermore. And I strongly believe, in addition to the loathsome Jew hatred and anti Semitism and self hatred of Americans, anti Americanism by these podcaster, these kabbalists, I call them, that their audience now is made up of these people. That's their audience. You don't have millions of red blooded Americans listening to somebody talking about our troops, our troops will rape the women and girls in Iran if there's an unconditional surrender. You don't have them talking this way. You don't have millions of Americans listening to somebody who's basically saying that Hitler was misunderstood and Churchill created and extended World War II. Millions of Americans? No. Especially conservatives. No way. No way. And so this has finally been figured out. It's actually quite logical and simple that these people are making their money, some probably from foreign governments as well, but beyond that, that their audience is made up of unpatriotic, in many cases, foreigners, Islamists, Democrats, Marxists, who love to hear the trashing of Donald Trump by people who claim to be a Trump supporter. Part of maga. Again, many of you perhaps used to watch them, but you've dropped them, right? Well, somebody's picked up the ball and that's who's picked up the ball. So today's podcast, and I don't want to be repetitious, so I don't do the same show on radio that I do on the podcast or on TV or whatever. And there's so much to talk about anyway. I use these platforms in different ways, but again to draw the biggest audience as possible to radio, to the video, podcast and to the TV program, because that's what matters, to build this electoral and patriotic juggernaut. That's the goal. And so we went deep with Aristotle, we went deep on philosophy, and then I applied it to the war with Iran. Isolationism and interventionism. And this ism. And that ism. That's not the test.

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Forever wars.

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You hear people on tv, radio, we don't want any more forever wars. Well, what does that even mean? What it means is you don't want stupid wars. But that's not what they mean. They mean never take military action. Never. Unless we're struck first. That's called suicide. Cut one, Mr. Producer. Go. If the Democrats were in power, what would they do? Well, we know what they would do. What did Obama do? He signed a deal that ensured that that regime would get a nuclear weapon, just not on his watch. So outrageous. Netanyahu came to the United States Congress, he was so concerned about it, and urged the Congress to vote against it. This is one of the reasons that the Democrats hate him, because he took on their deal and he took on their president, our President Obama, and he did it publicly. And this is why they hate Netanyahu. Hate him, hate him, hate him. The reason the woke Reich, the isolationists, the ideologues, the reason they hate Netanyahu is because he's the greatest leader Israel's ever had and he's defended that country like nobody else could. And when we say he's the Churchill of the Middle east, if not the Churchill of our times, there's a reason for that. Mm. They hate him because he's a great leader. The reason they hate Trump because he's a great leader. If they weren't great men and great leaders, they wouldn't hate them because they'd be failures and they would see an opportunity for power. That's quite literally what's taking place. Quite literally what's taking place. I can't tell you how impressed I am. Always was. But with our Secretary of War, Hagseth, he's been absolutely fantastic. And when we come back, I want you to hear some of the things he had to say. Very important. I also want to get into back to New York in this Mandami. We talked at length yesterday and I'm not going to repeat it about his outrageous comments. Went to Islamo Nazis, tried to slaughter civilians and cops with IEDs. Too stupid to get them to work properly, apparently. And they checked their homes in Pennsylvania and they found a whole lot more. And they're going on about Akbar and things of that sort of. They're confessing. They're very proud of themselves. But now we know the mayor had dinner with Khalil, a supporter of Hamas. You see, Meir Mandami is not a zoody Jasser. He's not the assistant manager of my bank. A wonderful man, a good friend, a Muslim gentleman.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

He's not that.

[Mark Levin]

He's an Islamist. That's what he is. Just like his wife. Just like his wife. I'll be right back. Some major US banks are publishing aggressive gold scenarios for 2026. Some as high as about $6,300 an ounce. While nothing about the future is guaranteed, the market has already moved faster than many expected. Meanwhile, central banks have been accumulating gold and some estimates show that gold holdings now exceeding U.S. treasury holdings signaling gold's long term confidence. Monetary gold has over 25 years helping Americans understand physical gold and silver with an education first, no pressure approach and support for IRA eligible options. Monetary gold as a complimentary guide to help you understand precious metals. Call them right now 877-now-Gold or visit mark loves gold.com Request the free guide.

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That's 877-Now- Gold or visit mark loves gold.com Mark loves gold.com Performance may vary. You should always consult your financial and tax professional. Just to underscore this point. After we destroyed the Japanese regime In World War II, we wrote their constitution and we installed a government that would be aligned with us. We weren't going to leave it to chance that after all we went through, not after the grave threat that we faced. So we now must give focused thought to what comes after. The Iranian regime's navy, air force and missiles have been destroyed and their top leadership, it still has a standing army, it still has secret police, has an entire Islamist supporting infrastructure. There are no doubt many approaches to dealing with this short of a democracy project or hundreds of thousands of ground troops. But make no mistake, if a void is created and we don't fill it, it will be filled. It will be filled by these other forces. It will be filled by the communist Chinese and the fascistic Russians. It will be filled and that country will be lost. And those people will be enslaved as they are now. There's simply no question about it. The isolationists, the forever war types as well as the others. We don't want a forever war and we don't want a World War 3. After World War I, Germany and other countries that were defeated were left destitute and impoverished. In fact, the victors forced a peace agreement on them that required to allow us to remove most of their industries physical plant. And so Germany and the others had a massive depression. Their money was worthless, people were starving. And of course it created an environment which would eventually lead to the communists and the fascists fighting with each other for control over that country. Now obviously this is the shortest of short versions. It's a very complicated but compelling story. And one day I'll do it. And Germany was prior to this probably the most advanced country on the face of the earth technologically in sciences and physics and in the arts, architecture, if not the one of the top two or three, but I think it was the most advanced. Shocking that eventually a country like that would be led by a thug, by a mass murder. It happened and it can happen again, which is why yours truly is so outspoken, despite efforts to silence me, whether it's by sponsors or affiliates or audience members or so forth. And I want to thank those who stick with us here because what I'm talking about is Americanism, the survival of our liberty. That's the bottom line. Isn't. Can happen anywhere, including in an advanced society. You see what is taking place in New York City under an Islamist mayor. You see what's taking place in other parts of our country. We now have a restaurant in San Jose where Jewish man is merely eating his food and he's jumped by three guys and they beat the hell out of him. And he jumps up to try and fight back. Nobody intervenes to help him. It's videoed and people are yelling for them to get off of him, but they attacked him because he was on his cell phone speaking Hebrew to somebody. And the police, sadly enough, there seem to be relatively disinterested in this. We see what's taking place in Toronto, Canada. Three synagogues in the period of a few days or a few hours, all were sprayed with bullets. Three of them, three of them. And so much more. And so much more. This isn't just about Jews, it's about Christians. It's not just about Christians, it's about Americans. It's about we the people, red blooded Americans. 20 years ago this was not going on and we would not have put up with it. Ten years ago this was not going on and we would not have put up with it. Now it's everywhere you look, isn't it? Everywhere. I'll be right back.

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[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

Yo, yo, hello, America.

[Mark Levin]

Mark Levin here. Our number is 877-381-3811, 877-3811. We want you to follow us on Liberty's Voice over at Rumble and join us over YouTube. I know you're gonna have a good time. Today's show is really unique. I think you'll see how unique it is if you give it a shot. Liberty's Voice at Rumble, which has been great, really great to us and YouTube. So Pete Hegseth had a press conference this morning laying out what's taking place. Very important. Cut to Mr. Producer. Go.

[Pete Hegseth]

The mullahs are desperate and scrambling like the terrorist cowards they are. They fire missiles from schools and hospitals deliberately, deliberately targeting innocents because they know their military is being systematically.

[Mark Levin]

And by the way, this is what the Israelis have had to put up with over and over and over again with the Palestinians, the Hamas Palestinians in Gaza, over and over and over again. And the whole world and their propaganda operation, including in our country, turned on them. And we'll see how long it takes until they turn on us. That is the media. They're starting to, with respect to this, you're going to have some conservatives saying we need to know about that. That missile that hit that school, was it us or was it the enemy? Well, first of all, it was us. It was a horrible mistake. If it's the enemy, it's intentional. So, I mean, there is a clear moral divide, is there not just. Some of these people need to preen, they need to be dramatic. They need to create a scenario where they're viewed as independent and, you know, and so forth. I just don't operate that way. If something's right, there's something's wrong. That's the way it is. Something's an accident and something's intentional. There's a moral distinction. We don't target schools. The enemy does. Whether they're the Palestinians or whether the, the, the, the Iranian regime, that's what they do. Go ahead.

[Pete Hegseth]

Iran's neighbors and in some cases former allies in the Gulf, they've abandoned them and their proxies, Hezbollah, the Houthis and Hamas, either broken, ineffective or on the

[Mark Levin]

sidelines or in case of Hezbollah under attack by the Israelis who are brutally attacking them now because they were firing missiles into Israel trying to help out their Iranian masters. Go ahead.

[Pete Hegseth]

And they are badly losing.

[Mark Levin]

Cut three, go.

[Pete Hegseth]

On day 10 of Operation EPIC Fury, we are winning with an overwhelming and unrelenting focus on our objectives, which are the same as the day I gave my first briefing here on Operation Epic Fury. They're straightforward and we are executing them with ruthless precision. One, destroy their missile stockpiles, their missile launchers and their defense industrial base missiles and their ability to make them. Two, destroy their navy. And three, permanently deny Iran nuclear weapons forever. It's a laser focused, maximum authority mission delivered with overwhelming and unrelenting precision. No hesitation, no half measures. As President Trump declared yesterday, we're crushing the enemy in an overwhelming display of technical skill and military force. We will not relent until the enemy is totally and decisively defeated. But we do so. We do so on our timeline and at our choosing.

[Mark Levin]

And General Kane, chief of the joint, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, also at the press conference this morning. Cut four, go.

[General Kane]

Since our last update, CENTCOM continues to make progress across the southern flank. To date, they've struck more than 5,000 targets. U.S. strategic Command bombers recently dropped dozens of 2,000 pounds GPS penetrating weapons on deeply buried missile launchers across the southern flank. We also have struck several one way drone factories to get at the heart of their autonomous capability. And of course, alongside our regional partners along the southern flank, continue to execute intercepts against one way attack drones using fighters and attack helicopters. Our strikes mean we've made significant progress in reducing the number of missile and drone attacks out of Iran. Ballistic missile attacks continue to trend downward, 90% from where they've started. And one way attack drones have decreased 83% since the beginning of the operation. A testament to our air defenders and our air defense systems. And as I said, our partners in the region continue to do great work as well.

[Mark Levin]

Mm. Partners being the Israelis. And then let's move to Mr. Producer. Cut six. Nancy Cordes, CBS let's see what question she had at a press conference today. Cut six, go.

[Caroline Levitt]

The president said yesterday for the first time that he had to strike Iran because he believes that Iran is going to strike U.S. u.S. Targets within seven days. And then he then bumped that down later to three days. Where is he getting that? Well, that's not the first time the president has said that he chose to launch Operation Epic Fury because he felt as though Iran was going to strike the United States and Our assets in the region first. There are no US leaders or Israeli leaders who are making those same claims.

[Mark Levin]

So excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. This is why I get fed up. We interviewed Steve Witkoff. We had the first long form interview of Witkoff, of anybody, and he explained this at great length. We took that interview, we removed the commercials, we put it on online. A handful of news services, really good ones, ran with it. Not a single network did they pretend it didn't exist. And Witkoff explained then that the negotiators for the Iranian regime said to them, he and Kushner, that in 10 days we will have 11 nuclear warheads. We have 22,000 pounds of nuclear material. We're not giving up any of it. We're not turning over any of it to you. We're not giving to you at the negotiation table what you couldn't get in your bombing mission in June. We're not giving it to a third party. And they weren't giving anything, and they weren't agreeing to anything. And they said they would have 11 of these bombs within 10 days. Now, I don't know what's wrong with reporters, the Democrats, even people on our side. That's what was said on the record by Witkoff to me, to millions of you listening on the radio. We recorded it. We made it available, seem awfully newsworthy to us and to you. So we know why the President made this decision.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

Because the enemy confessed to what they had. And so the President has to make

[Mark Levin]

a determination right there and then. And this is why I went into the whole thing today on the video podcast on Liberty's Voice about Aristotle and prudence and wisdom and making decisions and how you make decisions. It's not ideological. It's more philosophical and principled and all that, which I think you'll find interesting. But nonetheless, the President is in charge.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

He's the commander in chief.

[Mark Levin]

He knows what this regime is.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

He knows its ideology.

[Mark Levin]

He knows what it's done in the past.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

And he had to make a decision. Now, it seems to me any president who cares about his own country wouldn't

[Mark Levin]

wait with that information,

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

and he acted. So why do we get these dumb questions, truly dumb questions? And then we have the Elizabeth Warrens,

[Mark Levin]

the Richard Bloomberg's, the other morons.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

They come out of these briefings and they say, I have more questions than answers. What's the mission? Well, we know what the mission is. It's obvious. And the military that's carrying out the mission, they know what the mission is. The Democrats play rope a Dope. They're doing everything they can to sabotage this mission. I told you, they have their own mission. It's called Operation Sabotage. Whether it's to turn the War Powers act into a pretzel and use it to, to obstruct what's taking place, whether it's defunding the Coast Guard, defunding tsa, their war on ice, trying to defund ICE so they can't protect us from terrorists. The Democrat Party is a kamikaze party. Anything for power. And let me be clear about this, really clear about this.

[Mark Levin]

And Eric Erickson pointed this out too, but I have myself,

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

the Democrat Party has commercials ready. Commercials ready. That if something happens to our country as a result of them defunding our protection, as a result of them defunding the blue wall, whether it's the Coast Guard, the tsa, ICE or whatever it

[Mark Levin]

is,

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

and they've already said it's Trump's fault, it's the Republicans fault, they won't agree to what we want. Meanwhile, the Republicans keep voting to fund and the Democrats keep voting against funding. They will use that, they will use any harm that comes to this country, any harm that comes to our fellow

[Mark Levin]

citizens

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

as a justification for running commercials trashing Trump, trashing the Republicans and they hope paving the way to victory in the midterm elections. That's their plan. That's their goal. It's not the well being of our military or the success of our military. It's the opposite. It's not the well being of the people. You, me, it's the opposite. And the same goes with the Carlson's and the Kellys and the Bannons and the rest of them who want to be proven right because their audience is made up of the same people who support the Democrats and the enemy. 91% of MAGA supports the president handling of Iran. 83% of all Republicans, same thing. But the opposite is true of the Democrats. The opposite is true of the Marxists and the Islamists. And the opposite is true 100% of the woke right. Neo fascist isolationists. They seize on every opportunity to undermine our country, our President, our military, and you, Mr. And Mrs. America. That's the plan of the Democrat Party. That's the plan.

[Mark Levin]

I'll be right back. It's time for a little spring cleaning. And I know where to start. Go drag your old dated wireless contract out of the closet and beat it with a broom. Then freshen things up by switching to PureTalk, my wireless company that gives you unlimited talk, text and plenty of data. Just 25 bucks a month with no contract, no cancellation fees and no overseas customer service. If you ever need help, I'm guessing you're going to like them as much as my listener Paul from Greer, South Carolina. He says, I finally listened to Mark Levin's advice and switched from Verizon. I'm getting the very same service for less than half of what I was paying Verizon. You know, I long wondered if these much lower services could provide the same level of service as the big boys. Now I know that Pure Talk certainly can. Thank you, Paul. Now it's time for you folks to make the switch too. Go to PureTalk.com Levin PureTalk.com Levin and you'll save 50% off your first month. That's PureTalk.com Levin and switch to a wireless company that shares your values. PureTalk, America's wireless company. Now Rand Paul, and he's an extreme libertarian isolationist like his father was and is. These are not constitutional conservatives. They are what they are. The woke Reich R aich. They're all predicting that we're going to get whacked in the midterm elections. And they might be right. You know why? Because of them. And so they're trying to put out propaganda to cover their asses. They don't tend to unite around anybody. Not Trump, not the Republican Party, not the conservative movement. No, they're out on their own. These are true unhinged whack jobs, psychopaths. And this is their goal. Because remember who the real audience is. The real audience is the Marxists, the Islamists, the Democrats, the anti Semites overseas, the Christian bashers, that's their audience. Because the opposite of that, those who believe in the Constitution and individual liberty, those who believe in the Judeo Christian belief system and values, those who believe that yes, sometimes you need to take preemptive steps like George Washington warned in order to protect your country, which should be obvious by now given all the military operations we've been through that that's really America first. That's peace through strength as explained by Reagan and Trump.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

But they're going to want you to

[Mark Levin]

believe that if we only listen to them, if you only hate the Jews and hate the Christians and if you

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

only embraced Islam and if you only, you only destroyed the Republican Party, if you only listen to them, then we'd be in the majority. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? That's what you have to believe. That's political suicide. Absolute political suicide. So we get this really a useless

[Mark Levin]

senator, this Rand Paul on Fox Business Today.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

You recall when Trump took out Suleimani, he objected to that. He went on TV and said that was outrageous. We shouldn't do that either. There's some people you just have to

[Mark Levin]

write off America and dismiss as too

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

damn crazy to take seriously. But the guy's a senator. It's like, don't you believe in free speech? Why don't you debate this guy and debate this guy and debate this guy? You debate a lot of guys who are unknown, but some who are known,

[Mark Levin]

some who are doing the dirty work of the enemy.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

Why would you debate them? You want to defeat them? What's the debate? If you're Catholic, should I debate the right of your faith to exist? The legitimacy of your faith? If you're a Protestant, should I debate the right of your faith to exist? In the history of your faith, insist that it doesn't exist? I mean, it makes no sense. That's not a debate. And look what this guy tried to do to Huckabee. Cutting and slicing the interview, asking the weirdest damn questions imaginable. Didn't change anybody's mind. The same people were behind Huckabee. The inside, insane. We're behind Katarlson. So here's rand Paul. Cut 8.

[Mark Levin]

Go.

[Pete Hegseth]

One reason is that we want to

[Mark Levin]

free the Iranian people from oppression. I have a great deal of sympathy. I want people to be free around the world. But if our foreign policy is to

[Pete Hegseth]

free oppressed people, I'm not sure where war would end. I mean, there are many people that

[Mark Levin]

are said to be oppressed in China, Tibet, the Uyghurs. The sad thing is, he didn't read my book Liberty and Tyranny, and I have a whole chapter on this. The fact is, the President has said it's interesting he puts it this way, but we're not going to war with China to free the Uyghurs or the Tibetans, are we? No, we're not. We're not going to war with Russia to free the Chechnyans, are we? No, we're not. We're not going to war with North Korea to free the North Koreans, are we? No, we're not. And so, as a rational human being, you understand that we can't do that. Number one, it wouldn't work. Number two, we'd cease to exist. We don't have the resources to do it. The American people don't want to do it, so we got all that. So he has a straw man here.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

On the other hand, we're talking about

[Mark Levin]

Iran, a country that wants to blow us off the face of the earth. A country that keeps trying to build nuclear weapons. A country that Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner have told US we're within 10 days of having 11 nuclear warheads because

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

that's what they were told, £22,000 of nuclear material. A country that. A regime that's been attacking us for half a century and killing Americans. Ukraine's not doing that. No other country on the face of the earth is doing that. The Islamic regime, regime in Tehran is doing that. They're weaker than they've ever been. And so Rand Paul's caught up in his ideology. It's not prudential, it's not virtuous. It's propaganda. He's an isolationist, no matter what the threat. That's why he'll never be President of the United States. That's why he votes with the Democrats 90% of the time when it comes to foreign policy. That's why at one point, it was either he or his father said we ought to cut the fence by 25%. Well, the Chinese are building up for a world war. Is that peace through strength? No, it's appeasement. It's pacifism. It's isolationism, which will get us killed.

[Mark Levin]

I'll be right back. It's time for a little spring cleaning. And I know where to start. Go drag your old dated wireless contract out of the closet and beat it with a broom. Then freshen things up by switching to PureTalk, my wireless company that gives you unlimited talk, text, and plenty of data. Just 25 bucks a month with no contract, no cancellation fees, and no overseas customer service. If you ever need help, I'm guessing you're going to like them as much as my listener Paul from Greer, South Carolina. He says, I finally listened to Mark Levin's advice and switched from Verizon. I'm getting the very same service for less than half of what I was paying Verizon. You know, I long wondered if these much lower services could provide the same level of service as the big boys. Now I know that Pure Talk certainly can. Thank you, Paul. Now it's time for you folks to make the switch, too. Go to PureTalk.com Levin PureTalk.com Levin and you'll save 50% off your first month. That's PureTalk.com Levin. And switch to a wireless company that shares your values. PureTalk, America's wireless company.

[Senator Ted Cruz]

Mark Levin on the front line of Liberty.

[Mark Levin]

Call in now. 877-381-3811. Caroline Levitt at the White House press briefing today. But before we get to her, this Save America Act. The Democrats are gonna fight this tooth and nail because they don't want people to be required to prove their citizenship, even in the most modest way, with a picture, a photograph id. Republicans support it, Democrats support it. People of all races and faiths support it. And the media don't support it. The media regurgitate whatever the Democrats tell them to regurgitate, and vice versa. They want you to believe it's anti black.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

Jim Crow 2.0.

[Mark Levin]

Now, number one, Jim Crow 1.0, that's all Democrat, all the time. But how is it Jim Crow.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

It applies to everybody equally. Everybody equally. And everybody knows you need an ID

[Mark Levin]

for a thousand different things, including government programs and hotels and rental cars and beer and cigarettes. Some of you have legalized pot, whatever

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

it is, you need an id. You want to get on an airplane, you need an ID Even. You want to get on a train, you need an id. You want to get into certain nightclubs, you need an id. You want to get into the dnc, you need an id. You want to get into the Democrat National Convention, you need an id. You want to volunteer to shovel snow in Manhattan or the rest of New York City, you need an id.

[Mark Levin]

It's a long list of things you need an ID for, But they're too hard to get. Now, listen to how racist this is. This discriminates against black people. That's what they mean about Jim Crow 2.0, because according to Chuck Schumer, one of the whitest people you'll ever see, black people don't know how to get an id. Black people don't know how to get driver's license.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

Now, isn't that racist?

[Mark Levin]

Not only that, they say married women.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

You married women out there, you're going to be discriminated against. You'll have trouble getting an id. How many married women out there have

[Mark Levin]

trouble getting an id?

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

I mean, are we supposed to pretend we're stupid in order to believe Chuck Schumer and the Democrats, Jim Crow 2.0. Now, conversely, let me ask you this. If you don't have an ID with a picture on it, how do we know you are who you say you are? How do we know you got 11 states, 10 that are Democrat, one that's teetering where they don't have any ID? So how do you know if it's the person who says they are? You don't. How do you know they're not voting twice? Once in one precinct, once in another? You don't. How do you know if they're not using somebody else's name? You don't. There's no id and it's illegal to ask for one. And those states have an impact on federal elections. Now everybody with two brain cells to rub together knows why the Democrats don't want an id. Because they're counting on fraud. Why do Democrats insist that ICE may not operate near a voting place? I mean, isn't that where you want them to make sure illegal aliens aren't voting or to discourage illegal aliens from voting? Why would that be? One of the so called reform measures that they've thrown down and said TSA doesn't get paid, the Coast Guard doesn't get paid, the Secret Service doesn't get paid, FEMA doesn't get paid. Unless, among other things, you prevent ICE from going to voting places to get illegal aliens. I am telling you, they're like the mob. They're relying on illegal aliens to muscle up the number of congressional districts and electoral college votes. They're relying on birthright citizenship to keep producing Democrats. They're relying on ICE having to stand down at voting places, at precincts of all places. I mean, doesn't that reveal everything? And they insist no government issued photograph IDs at the voting place. They're government issued.

[Mark Levin]

What if people can't afford it? Who can't afford it?

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

But you know what's in the bill?

[Mark Levin]

Subsidies. A thousand different ways to help somebody get an id.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

Thirty years ago, this wasn't controversial, but we have a new Democrat party.

[Mark Levin]

They want Islamists, they want Marxists, they want illegal aliens.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

They don't want to enforce our immigration laws. They want you to think that having an identification, that you're a citizen is like Jim. You know, it's like when the Democrats

[Mark Levin]

call people Nazis and Hitler because they disagree with them.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

If you're a black person and any

[Mark Levin]

of your family was involved in the awful discrimination that took place, or they

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

go back to the period of slavery, you should be really pissed off right about now that a guy like Chuck Schumer, that a guy like Chuck Schumer and his party are insisting to use you and your experiences as a defense for voter fraud. If somebody votes twice, they are, excuse me, neutralizing your vote. If somebody votes who's not supposed to be voting, they're neutralizing your vote. If somebody votes multiple times, they're neutralizing your vote. Black, white, brown, yellow, green, red, it doesn't matter. Chuck Schumer is the equivalent of a modern day George Wallace. Hello, he is. Because what he's saying is everybody should vote, even if you don't have a right to vote, which means your vote can be canceled out by somebody's vote who's not supposed to be voting or voting twice or voting for dead people or whatever the issue is. And Chuck Schumer doesn't want to know. He just knows that his party benefits from this. You know damn well if Republicans benefited from this, Chuck Schumer would be all over it. That's all he cares about. Power. The power of his party. That's all he gives a damn about, ever. Same with Sanders. Same with all of them.

[Mark Levin]

Here's Caroline Levitt with some more on reporter cut 14. Go.

[Caroline Levitt]

One of the biggest things the Democrats are saying, the claims they're making, is that the Save America act, it would prevent married women from voting in elections or make it harder for them. What do you have to say to those claims? Is there any validity to them? And where do you think they're getting this from? There is zero validity to these claims. And I'm glad that you brought them up, because you have the Democrats who have created this myth, and it has been perpetuated, unfortunately, by many in the mainstream media. Let me be very clear. The Save America act does not prohibit anyone from voting with the exception of illegal aliens. And the greatest way to disenfranchise American citizens from voting in American elections is to allow illegal aliens to vote, which is what Democrats want to do. We see it taking place in Democrat jurisdictions at the state and local level across this country. So the Save America act corrects that. And as far as married women who have changed their name, if they're already registered to vote, they're entirely unaffected by the Save Act. And for the small fraction of individuals who have changed their name or their address, they can still register to vote.

[Senator Tom Cotton]

Of course.

[Caroline Levitt]

They just have to go through their state processes to update that documentation. And this is something that the American people, married women and minorities and people all across this country who Democrats are insultingly saying cannot do this. They're already doing it every day, going to the Social Security office, going to the dmv. And I think it's frankly insulting that the Democrats are saying that there are certain groups of people in this country who aren't smart enough to update their documentation to allow them to vote. Again, this is a huge myth.

[Mark Levin]

They're literally sitting around the Democrats coming up with straw men arguments that are racist and misogynist, that are stereotypical,

[Dr. James Lindsay]

and

[Mark Levin]

they're going to use Jim Crow,

[Dr. James Lindsay]

where

[Mark Levin]

American citizens who are black were prevented from voting. And compare that to, we just need a voter id, a picture ID for you to vote. And by the way, we don't care what race you are, what sex you are, what religion you are. Everybody has to show it

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

has absolutely

[Mark Levin]

nothing to do with poll taxes and literacy tests and other forms of obstructing black people from voting.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

We know from the polls black people

[Mark Levin]

want honest voting, too. When you go to vote, you want to know that the process has integrity. And the Democrats are saying, ladies and gentlemen, we've never done this before in our history.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

This is all new.

[Mark Levin]

We used to have paper ballots. You want an absentee vote, you had to demonstrate why you couldn't show up. Maybe you were sick, maybe you were out of town, maybe you were disabled, something like that. But you couldn't just say, I want a paper, I want an absentee ballot, I'm going to mail it in. It didn't work that way. And you had to sign under penalty of perjury that you met one of the. One of the requirements other than that you show up in person. Why?

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

Because they needed to know who you were and you had to prove that you were who you were. Now it's controversial with the Democrats who are trying to create controversy around it. There's nothing controversial about it. Cut 15. Chucky. Schmucky Schumer. Go. This is a bill that destroys the country. And it is not about showing ideas.

[Mark Levin]

This is a bill that destroys the country. This is why he's so thoroughly despised. This is a bill that destroys the country. Almost every democracy in the world has a requirement that you have to show who you are. And we used to do it all over the country. And then the Democrats decided they didn't want to do it. Oh, gee, I willikers. I wonder why another president is saying, this is enough. Somebody has to put their foot down. You have to be an American citizen in order to vote. Wow, that's like racism in the 1950s and 60s.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

What? You idiot.

[Senator Tom Cotton]

What?

[Mark Levin]

So you have these white leftist Democrats who are power hungry, and the black community, 76% says, no, we think that's a good idea.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

The Latino community, 83% says no, we

[Mark Levin]

think that's a good idea.

[Mark Levin (alternate mic or emphasis)]

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You know, Senator Cruz doesn't have to

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come out and publicly do the things that he's doing. He could be like most of the other politicians and hide or complain behind the scenes whisper campaign. But that's not Cruz. He's a very, very solid patriot, just like Tom Cotton. And I'll get to him in a moment. But Senator Cruz has been out there. He's been doing a public service to the entire nation. He's not Jewish, obviously, but it doesn't matter. He is Christian, just like Huckabee, just

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like Cotton, just like so many other

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righteous gentiles who've had enough and they know the relationship between Judaism and Christianity. And Ted Cruz has been out there fighting like hell. And he was at this event that I was talking about, this anti Semitism, anti anti Semitism event. And I want to salute National Review and our friends at rjc. No, I wasn't invited. People know where I stand and I have a microphone right now. I'm talking about it right now. Cut 11, go.

[Senator Ted Cruz]

At the very beginning of National Review, Buckley had a moment where he said, no to the anti Semites. They're not welcome in our party. And that changed the course of history for decades. We are at a moment that, if anything is more consequential now. And I will tell you, there are costs to this. So virtually every single one of my colleagues in the Senate on the Republican side agrees with me and has said, you're absolutely right. Thank you for taking this on. And yet almost none of them will say Tucker's name because there is a cost. I could tweet this morning, good morning. And hundreds of anti Semitic responses would immediately fill my social media. Turns out I've seen many times an image of myself in a bikini with the flag of Israel. I never knew that I looked quite fetching in a bikini. And I will say, there is virtue. One of the things. Look, there are many lessons one can learn from President Trump, but one of the the lessons is just to not give a damn. There is a power to fearlessness. There is a power to speak in the truth and letting the idiots say what they will.

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He's so right. Cut 12. Go.

[Senator Ted Cruz]

To show you just how anti Semitism leads to anti Americanism, what is Tucker saying this week? He's saying Donald Trump has called for unconditional surrender in Iran. When you surrender unconditionally, what it means is that soldiers can rape your wives and your daughters. And so if Iran surrenders to America, American soldiers will rape the women in Iran. That is a grotesque lie. And by the way, American soldiers have not done that in any war we have fought. And yet Tucker is willing to impugn the entire American military. And then he also says the other way to do it is we can drop nuclear weapons on Iran. And he says, I believe we're getting ready to nuke Iran. That gives you the sense. By the way, right now the Iranian TV is playing Tucker's show across Iran. The Muslim Brotherhood is tweeting out Tucker show. They have decided he is the most effective spokesperson for their message, which is that America is the great Satan.

[Mark Levin]

Senator Tom Cotton, another fantastic patriot who has guts. Cut nine. Go.

[Senator Tom Cotton]

I know many of you are also concerned though about a seeming rise of antisemitism among influencers on the erstwhile. Right now I use sarcastic air quotes for a reason. First off, these influencers are perceived to be on the right and maybe they once were. Maybe they once wrote for center right magazines, maybe they once worked for center right websites or media companies. But I do not agree that I share a political movement or a political party with anyone who traffics in anti Semitism and for that matter doesn't just traffic in antisemitism or at least adjacent to antisemitism shares Liz Warren's economic policies. Or Rashida Tlaib's foreign policy. Because if you noticed, these so called influencers, like anti Semites usually do, often have a deep antipathy to free market capitalism. Whatever their views once were, they have since adopted indeed Liz Warren's economic policies. They also, as I said, share Rashida Tlaib's foreign policy, which could be summed up as Gen Kirkpatrick once said, blame America first. They always blame America first. If they're not blaming Israel first. It's a close competition.

[Mark Levin]

Cut 10 go.

[Senator Tom Cotton]

So the question is why did people have to make up the word influencer? And I think the answer is the Time tested, old fashioned, sturdy word influential does not apply to them. They are not influential. They are at least not influential with with Donald Trump who continues to reject their kooky advice. They are not influential with Republicans in the Senate who continue to reject their kooky advice. And if you look at public opinion polls, they are least influential of all with normal voting Republicans all across the country.

[Mark Levin]

Important point indeed.

[Senator Tom Cotton]

Self identified MAGA Republicans. This is you. There's polls out there you can identify. The pollster asks the respondent, are you a Republican? Yes. Do you identify as a MAGA Republican or let's call it a traditional Republican? Self identified MAGA Republicans are more supportive in general of the President's foreign policy than self identified traditional Republicans. Think about that. People who are asked to identify as a MAGA Republican with Donald Trump are more in favor of bombing the hell out of the ayatollahs than self identified traditional Republicans. So it's clear that these influencers don't have much influence where it matters.

[Mark Levin]

So important what both of these men are saying. So important what Senator Cotton said right there. And then the next step is what I pointed out earlier in the program. So who's in their audience? It's not most of you. It's Democrats who like what they're doing to Republicans and conservatives and MAGA and Trump. It's Marxists who like what they're doing to Trump and our military. It's Islamists who agree when they trash Jews and Christians and Americanism. It's foreign, foreign aliens who are not supportive of our country, who are attracted to those who are attacking our country from within. These are the greatest turncoats, the greatest

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traitors, the greatest saboteurs

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because they camouflage themselves as maga, they camouflage themselves as

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Republican, they camouflage themselves as conservative, as Tea Party, as Trump, as whatever it

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is

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while they're making money off the enemy and supporters of the enemy who can't get enough of them because they're undermining our country in the middle of a war.

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I'll be right back.

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You know, there's a gentleman out there,

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Dr. James Lindsay, who I've become fond of, the things he writes, the things he says. I actually think I quoted you in one of my recent books. You know, I go through so much research and so forth, but I remember you and you say very profound things and you say them in a very pithy way, which is not easy. But I enjoy reading it. How are you, sir?

[Dr. James Lindsay]

I'm great. Thank you for having me.

[Mark Levin]

Well, it's my pleasure. So let's just take a broad look at this. You see what's happening online. You see these Woke Reich types. What do you think? And I've seen what you've written and so forth. What do you think is driving this effort to put a wedge between Jews and Christians, this effort to sort of redefine Americanism? What do you see as driving this?

[Dr. James Lindsay]

Well, I mean, there's a number of factors. I don't want to make it complicated, but number one is previously the forces that don't agree with President Trump out in the world, whether they're foreign or domestic, sought to undermine President Trump from the outside. They, you know, so much as even trying to put a bullet in his head in Butler, Pennsylvania. And then, you know, we saw the different campaigns, whether it's the Russia campaign, whether it's the impeachments or whatever, they couldn't take him from the outside, so now they're trying to take him from the inside. They have to undermine him from the inside. So I think that this is one thing is to undermine Trump and his agenda, but it's also to re organize the Republican Party around a completely different politics, much more radical politics and identity based politics to remove us from the American experiment where everybody who is an American is an American. If you're a citizen, you're a citizen. Okay? Get a, get a job. That's our, that's kind of our motto, right? Or the way we think about the world. And no, it's not going to be that. We're going to be A people in a place which sounds a lot like blood and soils. We're going to have a new kind of European conservatism which we can look to Europe and see didn't work. It didn't conserve anything. It doesn't work. And so to reorganize the Republican Party around this new radical right wing politics that's been excluded for 75 years from the American project. And then thirdly, on the global stage, what's happening around Israel, what's happening in the Middle east is key to so many things that are happening. Whether it's the Belt and Road Initiative for China, whether it's Russia's ambitions in the region. And there are lots of huge global concerns, whether it's oil prices and oil transport and shipping lanes, there are huge concerns there. And as long as the United States and Israel remain staunch firm allies, Western interests are represented and protected in that region from some of the worst people on the planet. So they have to interrupt that as well.

[Mark Levin]

What do you think is influencing these so called influencers, which obviously don't have a lot of influence? Senator Cotton pointed out, others are pointing it out, that when you look at the polls, MAG is 91% behind the President's handling of this war, whereas these so called influencers, these woke right types, they're like 100% against. So what is it that is motivating them or driving them, do you think?

[Dr. James Lindsay]

Well, I think that there's kind of a convergence of interests. I think on the one hand, some of them do have a different radical politics that they would love to see the right wing of America adopt. And so they're ideological in that way. Tucker Carlson, for example, is at least partly this. He's famously a paleo conservative. He's taken up strongly with Pat Buchanan, as many of the others have, which is a different vision than President Trump offered for the Republican Party when he came in in 2016. So there's an ideological component. There's undoubtedly a component that has to do with, you know, likely it has to do with money that people are being paid or that they're just chasing clicks. They're ch opportunity online for whatever reason. These things are amplified and boosted often by foreign actors, but also by bot farms and networks. And they're all making money hand over fist. So there are these very prosaic explanations as well. But ultimately what I think it is is that goal to reorganize both the Republican Party and our relationship with Israel and the world so that the larger global interests that we are able to defend as we are right now, fall out of our hands in our ability to defend them.

[Mark Levin]

Is there sort of this Russian psyop activity taking place? You know, people have been writing about this. You've talked about it somewhat too. Is this, is this part of the plan to destroy the west and the United States in particular?

[Dr. James Lindsay]

I feel like the answer to that is kind of obviously, yes. The Russians are very famous and their approach with the so called Red team, Blue team or a team, B team, where they take any movement and split it into two factions that they can get fighting with each other. This is kind of their bread and butter kind of political warfare operations that they are the best in the world at and have been since the early days of Soviet Union. They're very good at divide and conquer in that way. But on the other hand, we now see, finally, I've been shaking, you know, the tree for a while. Glenn Beck was bringing it up 10 years ago. This weird character of Alexander Dugan and his multipolarity theory. That's the big story. Multipolarity means that the United States is no longer the global power. We are no longer going to use our navy and our military to control world affairs. We're going to have a Russian pole and a Chinese pole and an Islamic poll pole and a US Western pole that are all roughly co equal and competing in the world. But this is just that old Soviet strategy of to break, of breaking up Western power so that maybe Communist, maybe Islamist interests can rise. I think in this case you would see a huge rise in Islamism and you would see a huge rise in Chinese Communism. But what the details are is tough to say. But the goal, goal is to undermine American and Western strength in the world so that the other players can rise to be like equals.

[Mark Levin]

And does this partly explain anyway this obsession in attacking Judaism and trying to divide the Judeo Christian value system, saying they're separate and one replace the other, Is that part of that ideology?

[Dr. James Lindsay]

Yeah, I think it is part of the ideology. It is also a very useful tool. And I think that's, that's the most important part. If they can divide Americans, especially American conservatives, over whether or not they support Israel or whether or not they support Jews, which is a much more alarming thing to see on the rise right now is rank anti Semitism. If they can split Americans that way and split American conservatives, if they can convince young Protestants to abandon those theological convictions that they have, then they can really reshape politics in America going forward. And the objective, I think is in fact to do exactly that. So Israel becomes not just a object that they are attacking, but rather the object that they are attacking with. It's like I've said to people before that if you really want to make a man mad, what you do is you insult his wife. And people say, well, you attacked his wife. But no, really what you did is you attacked the man through his wife. And so if we can get, if they can attack Israel, they're really attacking the United States by getting us to fight with ourselves and fight over this. They know that Protestants, Evangelicals in particular, and Jews in America will not abandon Israel. They know that they will not abandon these convictions. They might turn some young people, but they can split the American conservative vision by getting us to fight about this. So it's more of a means to an end than an end in an itself.

[Mark Levin]

We're talking to Dr. James Lindsay, who's founded the New Discourses organization and platform. I'd like to hold on to you, if you don't mind, through the break and continue with this because I think it's incredibly important. We'll be right back.

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[Mark Levin]

We're here with Dr. James Lindsey of New Discourses, and his podcast is the new Discourses podcast. Dr. James Lindsey. So we were talking about sort of this Russian influence campaign involving the effort to divide really people in our institutions against each other and against ourselves. So it collapses within these woke. Right. Podcasters, particularly those who draw so much attention. It's my understanding that Bannon met with this guy Dugan at one point and so forth and so on. Do you know anything about this?

[Dr. James Lindsay]

Yeah, a little bit. Steve Bannon met with Alexander Dugan in the fall, October or November, I think, of 2018, and they kind of kept it hush, hush. How much he worked with Dugan from there, I don't know. But Dugan actually draws off of a philosophy for his own crazy beliefs, which he calls the fourth political theory. But he draws off of a guy, it's called a traditionalist, named Rene Guanhomme, a French philosopher. And Steve Bannon also draws off of Rene Guanon. So they're running in similar currents, they have similar thought patterns, they both have this. It's a very weird, mystical way of thinking about traditions. But the idea that if you dig deeply enough into any one tradition, you kind of come out at the bottom and they're all the same. So everything is unified and everything is whole. It's a very weird spiritual trad. But Bannon and and Dugan run in similar ways this way, not just politically, but on deep metaphysical levels.

[Mark Levin]

Now what does that mean, deep metaphysical levels?

[Dr. James Lindsay]

Well, they see the world in a different way than the way the rest of us do. That there's this objective to transform the world to its kind of ideal state. And this is why, you know.

[Mark Levin]

Can I interrupt you one second? So we know it almost sounds Marxist.

[Dr. James Lindsay]

Well, it's not dissimilar to Marxism. It's almost a Marxist vision kind of turned upside down. The idea with the Marxist vision is in fact that you're going to transform everybody to remember who they are. We're all going to remember that we're socialists at heart. And if we re educate everybody. But in this other tradition, the idea is more the other way around. It's that we can realize ourselves and band together almost more in a fascist organizational structure so that we can march forward to the humanity that we're supposed to become in the future.

[Mark Levin]

That really is weird, but super weird. They're both a thorough turn. Right. So fascism and the Marxism aspect of it. Does this explain, for instance, Tucker Carlson turning World War II inside out? The good guys are the bad guys and the bad guys are the good guys.

[Dr. James Lindsay]

Yeah, in part. I mean, they have to destabilize. And I want to just emphasize that the target here is primarily the young people. But this is just like what the left did with its 1619 project. You have to get the youth in particular to doubt the goodness of their own country and its founding and its kind of most triumphant moments. And so what you do is you dig back into history and you reverse the polarity on whether or not who the good guys were and who the bad guys were, what was good and what was bad, you turn it all kind of upside down and inside out. And in that state of doubt when people are no longer certain of the things they think they believe, you get to become their leader. They become dependent on you for the next piece of knowledge, for the next step, for the next direction to take.

[Mark Levin]

And it's particularly problematic on the so called right, isn't it? Because they wrap themselves in patriotism. They've been wrapping themselves in MAGA and supporting Trump, but then they, they show ankle because Trump is a problem for them. Conservatism is a problem for them, Faith is a problem for them.

[Dr. James Lindsay]

Correct, that's right. I mean, they're very explicit if you spend time actually reading them to hear them say that they do not consider themselves conservative, they consider themselves right wing. And they make that distinction very clearly. They believe that conservatism is something weak and that right wing is something that can be strong, and they kind of tap into that. And they are very much against Trump. They've now turned on Trump. Tucker Carlson just said that MAGA is actually over. So they're not in the same current as the movement that they've been attached to. They've been inside the MAGA movement. They speak the MAGA language, they wave the flag, they carry the Bible. They do all of the things that make them look like American patriots. But what they're actually doing is the same kind of critical theory of America that we're used to from the left that undercut our belief in our own country. You could actually summarize things like what Tucker Carlson does, his podcast, the message again and again, every. Every week, it seems, every day, it seems, is you don't hate your country enough.

[Mark Levin]

Mm. And yet there are people kind of sprinkled throughout the administration, in significant positions in the administration that. That appear to share this viewpoint. No. Yeah.

[Dr. James Lindsay]

Well, Rod Dreher, who, you know, is least kind of on the edge of this pond himself, said that he came over and studied and ran around in D.C. for a week or two, and his estimate was 30 to 40% of the people that are in positions of any kind of authority in D.C. or at least sympathetic to this. So very many people. But this is another parallel to communism, Mark. This is a technique that the Communists called entryism, which is, how do you get your guys in entry? How do you get your guys in and the good guys out? And so what they're doing is they've stepped into positions of authority, and then they hire their friends and they create ugly scandals and situations for the people they don't like and start to squeeze them out. They're trying to squeeze out Paula White from the Faith Office right now very vigorously. You can see that very clearly. They're going after Lindsey Graham with some kind of a united struggle session attempt. They're trying to get their guys in and everybody, all the real patriots out.

[Mark Levin]

It's incredible. And so the American people listening tonight, what. What is your advice to them? I mean, they really have to be discerning about this. Right.

[Dr. James Lindsay]

That's the sad part of the advice is it's the hardest thing in the world, which is to be discerning. It's to understand it. Just because somebody's made a point that you agree with that, it doesn't mean that they're taking it in the right direction. It doesn't mean that they're doing the right thing with it. So you have to. To slow down. You can't just run on the fumes of, you know, Tucker Carlson was the guy I watched on the news for years and years. You have to listen to what he's actually saying now. He might not be leading you in the right direction anymore. He may have changed. He may have taken advantage of your trust. But also I want to tell American people listening is that you've got to protect your kids. If you, by the grace of God, avoided your children going in the direction of trans, they are trying to get your children in the direction of fascism and Nazism. And I hear from parents every day almost about how they're falling and losing their kids to this. So protect your kids. Get them on the right path. Teach them well.

[Mark Levin]

Amen to that. Tell us about your group and what New Discourses is all about in your podcast.

[Dr. James Lindsay]

Thank you. I started New discourses officially in 2020. My goal was to study and expose the woke left as fast as I could. I wrote a library of critical race theory for the public, but before George Floyd even died, that was ready to go when people were ready to have it. I tackled the queer theory and the drag queens and so on. So I tried to tackle this woke left, tie it to communism, explain what the woke left phenomenon was. And I've run a podcast there called the New Disco New Discourses podcast, where I have been trying to teach the world as fast as I can learn about woke up ideologies, and that includes now communism and fascism. I've spent the last year doing something I call the Nazi Experiment podcast, where I'm going through piece by piece by piece, whether from Mein Kampf or from Carl Schmidt or some other Nazi writers, and telling people, what did the Nazis actually believe? We know how their experiment ended. They had problems in Germany after World War I. They did an experiment to fix it. It ended in a catastrophic war and a holocaust. The worst thing, maybe that's ever happened. We know the experiment didn't work, but what was in it, and the reason I'm doing that is because I've been seeing whether it's on X, whether it's on YouTube, whether it's on Instagram. I've been seeing literally the pages of Mein Kampf with no attribution, fed to our kids like they're new ideas. So I want people to see what Hitler really said, what his acolytes really taught, what they really believed, what those contents were, so that they don't mistake the arguments of today. For something new and fresh and good. They're actually recycled evil from 80 years ago, 100 years ago that caused one of the greatest calamities in human history.

[Mark Levin]

Well, you're a very important thinker and a very important voice and I'm going to bring you on more often if you don't mind. It's a very significant size audience here. So thank you for what you're doing online and this project that you have and much appreciate you.

[Dr. James Lindsay]

Well, thank you very much, Mark. That's very nice.

[Mark Levin]

Dr. James Lindsay, ladies and gentlemen. He's a good man. New discourses. That's, that's his motivation. And you can see, you can see what he's trying to do, which is very, very important to expose what's taking place in our country. And he's giving you a better understanding of what we're dealing with in Tucker Carlson. Megyn Kelly Bannon is always hanging around with the sleaziest of sleazy. He just is. That's what he is. Candace Owens they're your enemy. They're trying to destroy what you love, what you believe in. They're trying to disunite America. They have a big plan and the plan is about power. You know, I wrote this book on power. Everything's about power. And that's what they're all about. They want to destroy the Republican Party even if that means building up the Democrat Party at least temporarily. That's what Fuentes said. A voting Democrat destroy the Republican party. Carlson said MAGA's over. MAGA is destroyed from within. Trump's not MAGA. Follow me. Owens and her rabid anti Semitism, they're all notice, anti Semites, anti Israel. And as James is pointing out there, that's part of the plot. If you can destroy the relationship between Jews and Christians, if you can destroy the relationship between two of the greatest democracies, Israel and the United States,

[Dr. James Lindsay]

you

[Mark Levin]

can move toward this, this fascism, this authoritarianism. I mean this is a big deal and it's going on right under your noses. We're going to keep talking about this as long as I have a breath and as long as I have these platforms because it's a big deal. It's very, very important. Very important. I'll be right back.

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[Mark Levin]

Have you ever wondered why Tucker Carlson is so close to Putin or loves Putin and praises Putin, praises the Russian culture, the Russian government? Well, that should become obvious now with James Lindsay's discussion about this guy Dugin, a Russian sort of counter intel guy who pushes his ideology in order to Destroy the West. And there's a reason why Tucker's close to these people. Absolute reason why he praises them. Absolute reason. He praises Islam, Qatar. They're all authoritarian regimes. They're all authoritarian in one form or another. Fascistic, monarchical, communist. He literally wants to destroy maga. He wants to destroy the Republican Party. He wants to destroy our civil society. Notice how he talks about witchcraft with respect to me and the use of language and mysticism and so forth. That's what this guy preaches. This guy Dugan. So it's not that Tucker's smart. He's actually quite dumb. He's got the gift of gab. But he's a mouthpiece for this, this Russian ideology which has as its purpose the destruction of our society. Go after the Jews and then go after the Christians who believe in Israel and so forth and so on. Go after maga, go after the conservative movement. And you'll notice he barely ever talks about Democrats or the Marxists or the Islamists. He's praising them. Have you noticed that's what he's doing? And anybody in this audience who's still left embracing this guy, understand what you're embracing. A poisonous anti Americanism that rejects our founding and rejects the Enlightenment and rejects the Judeo Christian belief system. Him and the connection between the two. This is why he had nothing but contempt for Huckabee, for me, Ben Shapiro, Josh Hammer, nothing but contempt for people of real faith, Christians and Jews alike. And we're going to go off the air in about 50 seconds. I really want you to check out Liberty's Voice, Today's video podcast. Look, you can start it. If you don't like it, you can just drop it. But I think you're going to like it. I hope you listen to it straight through. It's got a logic to it. I'm trying to present information that's not readily available to you, as I have during this entire show. While we think and talk about those who are evil with evil intentions, who are trying to destroy our society, today's video podcast is on a man who was so crucial throughout the ages in creating great societies, humane societies, societies with civil liberties. So we start with Aristotle and we get to Iran.

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