3/23/26 - Joe Kent: In His Own Words

Summary

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Mark Levin Podcast — Episode Summary

Episode: “Joe Kent: In His Own Words”

Date: March 24, 2026
Host: Mark Levin
Guest: Joe Kent, former Director of the National Counterterrorism Center

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Overview

In this episode, Mark Levin delves into the resignation of Joe Kent, a former Trump administration counterterrorism official, whose departure and subsequent public statements have raised significant controversy within conservative and MAGA circles. Levin opens with strong criticism of Kent’s recent claims, especially the assertion that Israel and its supporters have undue influence over U.S. foreign policy and lured the country into another Middle East war. The episode includes Levin’s extensive monologue, audio excerpts, polling data, and a heated, in-depth interview with Kent himself.

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Key Themes and Arguments

1. Joe Kent’s Background and Controversy

• Kent, twice a Congressional candidate (unsuccessful), was appointed to a senior White House security role.
• Recently resigned, claiming Israel influenced U.S. war decisions on Iran and floated conspiracy theories about recent political assassinations.
• Accused (in press and by administration sources) of being a "leaker" of classified information, which he denies.

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2. Levin’s Opening Monologue: Trump, Israel, and Iran

[02:49–16:14]

• Levin frames Kent as a relative unknown, introduces audience to his recent high-profile resignation.
• Plays Trump’s statement expressing disappointment in Kent, recounting Kent’s backstory—losing Congressional runs, joining White House staff after personal loss, and then turning against Trump’s positions.
• Levin forcefully rebuts claims of “Jewish control” in U.S. foreign policy:

  “Does it sound like the Israelis are telling him what to do, ladies and gentlemen?... There’s no secret pressure group, lobby group, nothing of the sort. He makes his own decisions and that’s what he’s doing.” — Mark Levin [07:02]

• Levin asserts that U.S.-Israel cooperation is based on aligned interests, not conspiracy.

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3. Polling Data: MAGA and Republican Support

[09:01–10:46]

• CBS poll:
  • 92% of MAGA-aligned Republicans support war in Iran, 76% “strongly support.”
  • 83% of Republicans support Trump’s approach.
  • 80% prefer a Trump-endorsed candidate over endorsements from prominent podcasters (Carlson, Megyn Kelly).
• Levin’s point: Overwhelming support for Trump’s policies negates the “Israel lobby” theory.

  “There’s no split in MAGA. There’s no Jewish control over the President. Just think about how ridiculous that is…” — Mark Levin [10:21]

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4. Kent’s Prior Statements

[12:28–15:52]

• Levin plays clips from Kent’s unsuccessful campaigns, highlighting his past support for strong cooperation with Israel, condemnation of Iranian threats, and criticism of Democrat opponents for not supporting Israel post–October 7th.
• Points out sharp change in Kent’s public positions for which he seeks explanation.

  “He’s taking a completely opposite view. And I’m sure he’ll tell me, ‘oh no, not at all.’” — Mark Levin [15:52]

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5. Leaks and Investigations

[16:14–19:39, 90:31–91:38]

• Caroline Levitt (White House) states that confirmed leakers would be excluded from future administration work.
• Kent, in interview, flatly denies ever leaking classified or confidential information and says he is not aware of any investigation against him.

  “I never leaked any classified information… No one has contacted me from Justice or the FBI.” — Joe Kent [90:55–91:18]

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6. The Case for U.S. Action Against Iran

[21:05–24:38]

• Levin references CIA Director John Ratcliffe, who testified that Iran remained an imminent, active threat—sharply contradicting Kent’s view.

  “In fact, the intelligence reflects the contrary.” — John Ratcliffe [22:08]

• Discussion on Iranian missile advances and risk to U.S. and allied assets.

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7. Nick Fuentes, Conspiracies, and Social Media Influence

[26:10–29:40]

• Tucker Carlson interviews Nick Fuentes; Fuentes claims connection with Joe Kent and relays understandings about “America First” politics.
• Levin calls attention to the presence of extremist actors and their attempts to influence and support certain candidates under tacit promises of non-disavowal.
• Levin discusses research noting much of Fuentes’ online amplification comes from anonymous, overseas accounts ([36:05–37:54]).

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8. Kent’s Changing Positions and Claims of Foreign Control

[77:59–88:50]

• Levin reads from Kent’s previous pro-Israel statements and appeals, then sharply contrasts this with Kent’s recent framing of Israel as driving U.S. into conflict.
• Kent reiterates in interview that he believes Israel and its supporting media “echo chamber” manipulated U.S. red lines and foreign policy aims.

  “I have a problem with Israel driving our foreign policy in the Middle East as they have done…” — Joe Kent [106:15]

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9. Joe Kent Interview — Highlights and Key Exchanges

Leaks and White House Exclusion

• [90:31–91:38]
  • Kent strongly denies leaking, affirms access to intelligence up until resignation.

Kent’s Theory: Israeli Influence

• [92:36–94:02]
  • Kent asserts the “imminent threat” was not from Iran but Israeli plans to strike Iran, which he claims pressured the U.S. into pre-emptive war.
• [110:09–110:43]
  • “The Israelis launched the attack and we knew that the Iranians would, would counter attack… The only imminent attack was actually the Israelis launching the attack.” — Joe Kent

Assassination of Charlie Kirk & Foreign Links

• [94:40–98:41]
  • Levin confronts Kent on his suggestion of a possible Israeli (or foreign) role in Kirk’s assassination. Kent sidesteps direct accusation but demands further investigation into possible foreign ties.
  • "There were still foreign...potential foreign links and leads that we needed to look into." — Joe Kent [96:24]

Kent’s Past and Present on Iran-Israel Policy

• [106:10–108:09]
  • Levin challenges Kent’s 180-degree shift from pro-Israel to accusing Israel of driving U.S. war decisions. Kent maintains he admires U.S.-Israel cooperation, but resents what he claims is undue influence on U.S. policy.
• [108:13–108:41]
  • Kent attaches significance to Iran’s “fatwa” against nuclear weapons—dismissed by Levin as a cynical pretense for lies.

Levin’s Critique

• [112:04–113:19]
  • Levin repeatedly returns to the point that the president—not Israel—makes final policy calls; CIA, Defense, State, all refuted Kent’s reading of the intelligence.
  • “Can you accept the fact…he made a decision; you may disagree with it, but why do you create a conspiratorial notion?” — Mark Levin [106:40]
• [113:22]
  • "Well folks, it's over. I'll see you tomorrow. God bless you. I don't know what we learned, but have a wonderful night." — Mark Levin

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “He’s here. He’s here.” — Levin’s signature show introduction [01:15; 39:47; 75:25]
• Levin on antisemitic conspiracy:

  “It’s so sick and it’s so perverse. And even worse, it’s demeaning of the President.” [07:02]

• Trump on Kent:

  “Nice guy. Seemed a very nice guy...But this is the thanks I get.” [03:49–06:39]

• Kent denying leaks:

  “I never leaked any classified information.” [90:55]

• On the supposed Israeli “fatwa” (Kent):

  “The former supreme leader agreed and he had that fatwa in place.” [108:16]
  “The fatwa meant crap.” — Mark Levin [108:30]

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Important Timestamps

• Levin introduces topic, sets up Kent interview: [02:49–15:52]
• Trump’s full remarks on Kent: [03:49–06:39]
• Debunking conspiracy—Levin on MAGA support & polling: [09:01–10:46]
• Clips of Kent’s prior pro-Israel statements: [12:28–15:52]
• CIA Director Ratcliffe under oath on Iranian threat: [21:05–24:38]
• Fuentes–Kent–Carlson connection: [26:10–29:40]
• Levin confronts Kent about leaks in interview: [90:31–91:38]
• Kent on Israeli influence, intelligence—Levin presses contradictions: [92:36–108:41]
• Wrap up and closing remarks: [113:22]

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Tone & Style

Levin maintains his combative, direct, and polemical style throughout, mixing evidence and polemic with personal recollections and sarcasm. He gives Kent the chance to respond directly, though often interrupts or challenges him forcefully. The interview at times becomes heated, with Levin repeatedly challenging Kent’s logic, sources, and recent change in public position.

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Conclusion

This episode offers a full-throated defense of the Trump administration's Iran-Israel policy from Mark Levin, pushing back on Joe Kent’s post-resignation claims that Israel orchestrated U.S. involvement in war, and framing Kent’s new alliances as evidence of a broader, concerning ideological shift. Kent repeatedly asserts his main points, but remains on the defensive regarding leaks and flip-flopping. The exchange is a revealing look at deepening rifts within the "America First" movement, the politics around U.S.-Israel relations, and the difficulty of keeping fact and narrative apart on hot-button foreign policy topics.

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Transcript

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Our number, 8773-8138-1187-7381-38111 really big show in the power hour. Hour three, we will have Joe Kent. We very much look forward to talking to him. I'll be interviewing him. Got a lot of questions for him. The most, he don't even know who he is, other than he resigned in a huff, issued a letter. But most of you don't know a lot about him. You're working men and women. You don't have time to focus on him or people that promote him and so forth. So we'll get to learn a little bit about him. We have some very important questions to ask him. We'll see how that goes. President Trump made it clear this morning he's no fan of Joe Kent. He said the following.

Cut 34 go.

You know whether Joe Kent was leaking?

Look, I'm not a fan of the guy. If you look at and you never cover this. If you look at his truth or whatever he went on, if it's X or truth, if you look at his truths or his statements, he was all for everything. All of a sudden, he wasn't. He was a man that I met at Dover. He came and his wife was killed. He remarried fairly quickly. His wife was killed. And I felt badly for him. He ran for Congress. He lost. He ran for Congress again, and he lost. I said, you know, he's a guy. Nice guy. Seemed a very nice guy. I met him. He was pretty heartbroken. Pretty. But I said, you know, it's a shame. He ran for Congress twice. Call him up. Give him a job in the White House. Smart. They gave him a job in the White House. And this is what he does to me. You know, being a nice guy doesn't pay off too much. Think of it. He loses twice in Congress, ran not very good campaigns, should have won, but he loses twice. How do I get him? Have my people call him? Because I didn't deal with him for the most part. I saw him a couple of times, but I never dealt with him at all. I had no idea his ideology was left or right, whatever it is. I can say this. He said very strongly that Iran is not a threat. Iran's been a threat for 47 years, and there's not a country in the world that doesn't agree with me on that. So I take this guy, Joe Kent, who lost twice for Congress pretty badly and tough, and it was devastated. And I know that he lost his wife. So instead of letting him live out his life, I brilliantly have my people call him and offer him a job in security, essentially in the White House. And what does he do? He goes out and he says that Iran is not a threat to get publicity. Now, he probably signed up with CNN or maybe signed up with your division of Newsmax. I don't know, but probably signed up with CNN or somebody. But if you look at tweets, exes or truth, whatever he uses, I don't know because I don't follow him. What he said is 100%. He agrees with me. All of a sudden, he leaves. I never knew he had a problem. Now I hear they're looking at him for leaking. That's possible, but just so you understand, just to put it to rest, he lost twice, badly. He also lost his wife. He's remarried. Since he lost his wife, I felt badly for him, so I told my people, reach out to him. Give him a job at the White. This is the thanks I get.

Mm. Yep. But Joe thinks the Israelis are in charge of everything. Like his buddy Tucker and his buddy Candace Owens and his buddy Megyn Kelly.

That whole cabal.

You listen to Donald Trump. Does that sound like the Israelis are telling him what to do, ladies and gentlemen? Does it sound like I'm telling him what to do? Does it sound like Ben Shapiro is telling him what to do? Does it sound like the Jews have control over Donald Trump? We'll get into this later with Joe Kent. Maybe, maybe not. We'll see. But it's so sick and it's so perverse. And even worse, it's demeaning of the President. The President is calling the shots. There's no secret pressure group, lobby group, nothing of the sort. He makes his own decisions and that's what he's doing. And Israel is a fantastic ally. Our Air Force flies with their Air Force. Our generals coordinate with their generals. Our intel coordinates with their intel. The President and Netanyahu are close friends. And this drives the Jew haters and the Israel haters nuts, but they're helping us. The President has asked for help from NATO countries. Nary one of them has been a finger. He has said over and over again that Iran presents a grave threat to the United States if it gets a nuclear weapon. He's acting in the interests of the United States. That doesn't mean those interests don't also overlap with Israel and the Arab countries in the region. And now European. So what? That's not a conspiracy. Now we have the latest poll numbers from cbs.

And these poll numbers are like all

the other poll numbers. Among self identified MAGA aligned Republicans, a whopping 92% of respondents support the war in Iran with 76% strongly supporting it. Now, they're not all Jews, are they, Mr. Medusa?

92% of mag I don't think is Jewish.

Some small percentages. Are they subject to the Israel lobby too?

76% strongly support it. That's massive. What else?

83% of Republicans support Trump's war against Iran. Just 9% oppose it. 9% oppose it. When GOP voters were asked whether they'd

prefer Kennedy endorsed by President Trump or

by Carlson and Megyn Kelly, a whopping

80% preferred a Trump backed candidate.

Just 7% siding with the podcasters as they write in the Jewish Insider, Josh Krash

and ask whether voters trust Trump's position on Iran or Carlson and Kelly's.83%

side with Trump, 6% with the others. Now, I mean, there's no split in maga. There's no Jewish control over the President. I Mean, just think about that, how ridiculous that is this. Why?

The fact that he's against anti Semitism,

the fact that he's friends with Netanyahu,

the fact that he supports an ally in Israel,

it's really horrible. These people are disgusting. And Joe Kent is among them. Joe Kent is among them. He's part of them. I want to dig into a lot of it with him. We'll see how that goes. Of course. And in fact, Joe Kent back in.

Let's, let's see here.

We have April 2024, Joe Kent. Now that's what he. Two years ago now, he ran for the House. He was on this program in October 2024. I didn't know him from a hole in the ground. I asked Speaker Mike Johnson, I said, look, this is close. Give me five conservatives who you want me to bring on the program and support. So we brought on Joe Kent. We had him on briefly. Nothing was controversial at the time. I wrote on Twitter in all our accounts that I wanted to come on the radio show. That became weird because Mr. Producer couldn't find his number. That happens at times. And finally he responded to Mr. Producer. And so we will have the discussion. But here's what he said in 2024 as he was running for Congress again

in a district that Donald Trump won

twice, he lost twice. Cut three, go.

[Joe Kent]

Since the Iranian Revolution in 1979, when radical jihadis essentially took over the government of Iran and they declared war basically on the west, but they also declared war on the vast majority of the Sunni Gulf states. And so what Kushner and what the Trump administration did was they came in, they said, look, you guys actually have a common enemy. Iran is an existential threat to both Israel. It's an existential threat to the oil producing Arab Gulf countries. And so that was the genesis of the Abraham Accords.

[Mark Levin]

Okay, sounds fairly rational there. That was 2024, April, almost two, two years to the day when he was running for the House. Here he is also in 2024 again when he's running for Congress. Cut five, go.

[Joe Kent]

Americans aren't aware of it. Our troops in Iraq and Syria have been attacked 150 plus times by Iranian proxies. And when we say Iranian proxies, we gotta be clear on what that is. That's the Iraqi government that we pay. Because after the Iraqi military we spent 2 trillion on surrendered to ISIS, we had to go back in there in very short order and stand a military back up again. And guess who filled the breach? The Shia militias controlled by Iran did. And The Iraqi government's controlled by Iran.

[Mark Levin]

Mm. No mention of Israel there either. The Iranian government is attacking our forces in Iraq. Let me just play one more. I've got plenty, by the way. I got plenty. Joe, I know you're listening in. And your buddy Tarlson. You've probably been working all weekend on this. It's okay. It's okay. Relax. This is December 2023. He's running against Marie Perez, who he loses against, but he's running against her,

I believe, for a second time.

This is 2023. I brought him in in October 2024. Cut six, go.

[Joe Kent]

Today we learned that Marie Perez is taking money from pro Hamas, anti Israel Pramila Jayapal. But most importantly, we know that Marie Perez voted against giving Israel the military support it needed following the terrorist attacks of October 7th. That's right. After Hamas terrorists went into Israel, killed 1500 civilians in the most horrific way as possible, and took American citizens hostages, Marie Perez voted not to give Israel any assistance, leaving our American hostages high and dry, leaving our ally, the Israelis, high and dry in their fight against Hamas. Her record matters here. Her rhetoric doesn't. But today we also learned exactly why she's voting the way that she's voting. She's receiving money from Pramila Jayapal to vote, vote against Israel and for Hamas. Pramila Jayapal gets out there and says it all out loud in the news, while Marie Perez quietly takes the check and votes accordingly. We cannot afford to have leadership like this. We need people who understand exactly what threats we face here as a country. Marie Perez also voted to leave our troops in the Middle east as Iranian proxies continue to shoot at them. We don't have time for incompetent leadership like this. She is going to get people killed. This is completely and totally unacceptable. I know exactly what dangers that we face. I spent the vast majority of my adult life fighting terrorists overseas.

[Mark Levin]

It's. That's a little over two years ago. He's taking a completely opposite view. And I'm sure he'll tell me. Oh, no, not at all. But nonetheless, I want you to be aware because you're smart and use your own heads. This is all public. Something secret here. Everything I'm going to discuss is public. Everything I'm going to discuss with him is public. It's all public.

Public.

And it all comes, most of it, out of his mouth and from his hand. From his mouth and from his hand. Now, Caroline Levitt was asked by Fox News on Wednesday about Kent. Cut seven. Go.

[Caroline Levitt]

I think that anyone who has been suspected of leaking or is proven to be a leaker will not be welcomed in this administration. I know that for a fact because I've heard the President say it myself. There are investigations underway into leakers in this administration and people will be held accountable for that. It's unacceptable and it cannot be tolerated.

[Mark Levin]

And if information leaked is classified information, that probably triggers the Espionage Act. I'm not making any inference here. I have no idea. None. None. We'll be right back, Folks.

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[Caroline Levitt]

The President spoke on this a little bit yesterday in the Oval Office. He said he always thought Joe Kent was a good guy. Obviously has a commendable military record and experience. However, he was not someone who was involved in the Presidential Daily Brief, part of the President's intelligence briefings over the last several months. Have not seen him here at the White House for quite some time. And the President feels it's deeply disappointing that after the President gave him an opportunity in this administration to serve the American people, that he would resign with a letter filled with falsehoods accusing the President of the United States by being controlled by a foreign country. That's both insulting and laughable all at the same time. The President is the leader of the most powerful country military in the world. Nobody tells him what to do. He makes decisions based on what's in the best interest of this country.

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Now, we know this already. Again, all on the public record, all of it. John Ratcliffe, CIA Director, Former member of the House. He was asked directly, directly at the Senate hearing under oath, the following important to remember all this cut to the

[John Ratcliffe]

head of the National Counterterrorism center resigned saying that Iran did not represent an imminent threat to the United States. Is there anything to indicate that Iran had ceased in its nuclear ambitions or in its desire to continue to build ballistic missiles capable of threatening American troops and allies in the Middle East?

[Joe Kent]

Senator?

[Mark Levin]

No. In fact, the intelligence reflects the contrary.

Stop right there.

The intelligence reflects the contrary. He's the head of the CIA. And just so you know, from my own experience, eight years in the Reagan administration, the head of the CIA, they talked to other parts of the government's intelligence apparatus as well, other agencies and so forth and so on. Go ahead.

[John Ratcliffe]

You disagree with Mr. Kent?

[Mark Levin]

I do.

[John Ratcliffe]

I would think anything fair minded assessment of the situation, even based on open sources would reflect the danger Iran poses, the regime poses to the United States. Isn't it true they've basically been at war with the west since 1979 during the Iranian revolution and have American blood on their hands?

[Joe Kent]

That's absolutely correct.

[Mark Levin]

I think Iran has been a constant

[Joe Kent]

threat to the United States for an extended period of time and posed an

[Mark Levin]

immediate threat at this time. Immediate threat, imminent threat. You know, these are words that are thrown around, but what do you have to wait until they're about to fire a missile? I mean, we elect a president to make this decision, not a mid level guy who's in his position about seven months. That's not how this works. Most of you have no idea who Joe Kim is. And in about a week or two, you still won't have any idea who Joe Kim is. The polling shows 90%, 92% of Maga supports the President and what he's doing. That's not Israel, that's not Jews, that's 92% of MAGA.

But these people can't get over it

because apparently the President didn't listen to their lobbying or their positions, I guess. If left unimpeded, can Iran build missiles that could reach the continental United States? Mr. Ratcliffe was asked last week. All public information cut one go. If left unimpeded, yes, Senator. They would have the ability to range missiles to the continental US. It's one of the reasons why degrading

[Joe Kent]

Iran's missile production capabilities that is taking

[Mark Levin]

place right now in Operation Epic Fury is so important to our national security. Yeah, and we now know that's clear because they tried to hit one of our bases 2,500 miles away and their missile could reach it. There were just bad shots, but they would perfect that in short order with the help of the communist Chinese. If we hadn't done what we did. See, here's the thing about people like Kent and his ilk, this whole cabal. They can say woulda, coulda, shoulda, this would have happened. That wouldn't have happened. But what if they're wrong? You know, they can, they can be self righteous and claim that they're right because the President has taken action now to deal with this. What we're learning is these guys were really well dug in. They had a massive military infrastructure, more than I ever expected. Not that I have access to intelligence, but it's really quite remarkable. Quite remarkable. I'll play one more that I think will be interesting to you folks. Let's see if I can find it.

Let's see.

Mr. Producer, there we are

again.

I want to give credit to Tucker Carlson for this. He's been able to expose a lot of information. He thinks it's helpful, I think it's revealing. So congratulations on this one, Tucker. He's Interviewing Nick Fuentes October 2025,

[Joe Kent]

just

[Mark Levin]

a few months ago and hear what he has to say about Joe Kent. Now remember Joe Kent, you heard him talk about how great Israel is, how we worked with Israel, how we need to fund Israel, we need to get arms to Israel. He fought over there. He saw how important it was. And there's more, and I'll talk about it later in the program and with him, hopefully.

Let's take a look at this.

This is Nick Fuentes on the Tucker Carlson Show, October 2025. Cut 10, go.

[Nick Fuentes]

Like Take Joe Kent, for instance. I supported Joe Kent and I talked to Joe Kent. I got introduced to him by Matt Brainard. Matt Brainard went to my conference in 2021. He bought a table, see his campaign manager.

[Mark Levin]

So first of all, let's just get it straight.

Fuentes backed Kent. And this is, let's see, this is an interview in 2025. So Fuentes back Kentucky when Kent was talking up Israel. Isn't that interesting?

Mr.

So he apparently kept these little

pieces of information, maybe one from the other.

I don't have any idea.

Go ahead, Alten.

[Nick Fuentes]

But he. Right on the campaign. Yeah. And so I met Matt Brainard. He liked me a lot. He loved my conference in February 21, which he bought a table at for his organization, look at America. And in 2021, we and by we, I mean my nonprofit and myself and my team, we wanted to support America first candidates in the midterms, like you said, authentic opponents.

[Joe Kent]

Me, too.

[Mark Levin]

Yeah. That's how I found Joe.

Ken.

[Joe Kent]

Yes.

[Nick Fuentes]

And so I met America first, as

[Mark Levin]

it turns out, today is 92% for what Trump is doing, for what Trump is doing and the war effort. Go ahead.

[Nick Fuentes]

Sort of seen like Ryan Graduski, I know is very supportive of Joe Kent and other people that are more private I don't want to name, but they put me on not just a Joe Kent, but Patrick Witt in Georgia, Gibbs in Michigan, a lot of different people, and Joe Kent was one of them. And I had a phone call with Joe Kent and I told him I had my assistant on the phone, too, who's Jewish, by the way.

[Mark Levin]

Oh, wow.

[Nick Fuentes]

Just because I want you to know I'm cool like that. I don't judge. So I'm on the phone with Joe and I said, look, we support you and we want to do everything we can to help you. We want to have my followers knock on doors for you. We want to boost your social media.

[Mark Levin]

Anything that you need to understand this. The gripers, this guy supports Hitler, supports Stalin and all the rest of it. We want to do anything we can to get you elected. Joe never told me that, did he, Mr. Producer? Go ahead, then.

[Nick Fuentes]

We don't even want to be publicly associated, I said, because we know that that might hurt you. I said, the only thing that we ask in return is you can't disavow me. If the media asks, and you can say whatever you need to say, but you can't disavow.

[Mark Levin]

Don't worry, he's not going to disavow. He hasn't done it yet.

Got you.

You got Tucker, Candace Owens, this Carrie, what's her name? Oh, yeah, Megyn Kelly. All of whom now are trying to undermine the Trump presidency. Stabbing Trump in the back. Trump's had enough of them. He put out his own social media post, certainly without my knowledge, and made it abundantly clear where he stands. And so now these people are trashing maga, trashing America first or reinterpreting it to accommodate their own ideologies, such as they are. And yet maga, the Republican Party conservatives, want Trump and they support what he's doing with Iran. You want to know why America, we've all experienced it. We don't need some Svengalis coming up and telling us what we see didn't, didn't happen or what we hear didn't happen. We Americans saw what Iran did to us and our country and our fellow countrymen, both in and out of uniform for 47 years. It had nothing to do with Israel, when they kidnapped our people, when they attacked our embassies, when they attacked Khobar Tower, when they tried to assassinate our president. If Israel didn't even exist, these things would still go on. That's the truth. I've got more, a lot more. Again, it's all public. It's all public. And as for Tucker Carlson, he hates America. He thinks America shouldn't be a superpower. America is the. Here's a guy who interviews all of our enemies. Our enemies trashing now, Trump and MAGA trashing Israel, Netanyahu relentlessly. Have you ever heard him trash XI in China or the monarchy in Qatar or the monarchy in Saudi Arabia, or even the regime in Iran? If he has, it's a very rare occasion, isn't it? But now he's trashing the president and Israel relentlessly.

And you see, you and I believe

America should remain and always be the most powerful superpower on the face of the earth. Right? Isn't that Americanism? Isn't that patriotism? But Tucker does not. Here's what he said just the other day. Cut 11, go. We can no longer be the sole author of terms of commerce, of anything. We have to share power with China, of course, because of their skills. I guess it was the economist. We have to share power. We can no longer be the sole author of terms of commerce and so forth. Now, first of all, we're never the sole author of anything. We're not an imperial country. We're not a conquering country in market economics, requires us to work with other countries when it comes to commerce. But isn't it interesting? Mr. Isolationist is now Mr. Globalist, isn't it? Mr. Reducer. He's Mr. Globalist with the greatest enemy we have. Enemy that's building up a massive military, not aimed at just Taiwan, but aimed at the United States of America. So they can blackmail us and threaten us and cut us off economically. The president is smart. He understands this. And by the way, the Jews aren't involved and Israel's not involved. Just for the anti Semites out there, just to clarify that there's no lobbyist involved. President sees it. So now we have Katarlson talking about globalism, at least when it comes to the biggest communist nation on the face of the earth. Biggest in terms of population. And his answer is basically appeasement. Look, we got to share power.

Not that we should become more powerful

economically, geographically, militarily, which is what a patriotic normal American would say. No, we got to just share power. And he'll be able to sort of slime his way in and out of that.

Well, of course we have to share

power, of course, but that's not his point. We can't be the number one superpower of the world. He said it somewhere else too, I think in his newsletter or something. Somebody told me Gaga has a newsletter. We'll be right back,

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found something like I'm doing off the. Okay, check my email. All right, we found it. Let's see how close I was to what I was going to say. All right. And I think this is consistent with the Guitarlsons and the Kelly's and the. And the Owens and the rest of them. According to a 2025 report, this is from unheard of. 90% of the accounts boosting Fuentes early retweeters were fully anonymous, with roughly half of his retweeters coming from Pakistan, Nigeria, Malaysia and Indonesia. Now how many times have I said that when you're so out of sync with America first and MAGA and the President.

6%.

7% compared to his 92%. And that's the case with Katarlson and Kelly. So where's your audience coming from? Well, this report says. Says it's coming from overseas. In the case of Fuentes, that's a pretty big deal. According to a 2025 report, 90% of the accounts boosting Fuentes as early retweeters were fully anonymous, with roughly half of his retweeters coming from Pakistan, Nigeria, Malaysia and Indonesia.

Now you can look on X, right,

Mr. Producer, and you can, you can find out where a lot of these

commenters are coming from.

You can find out what country. We found like 50%. A lot. We can't even keep track of it or overseas when it comes to me. And you can tell by the names they call and the pictures and all

the rest of the.

And then the usual fake MAGA woke, right, Neo fascists. Oh, you were out ratioed. You hear that, Mr. Produce Outratioed Outrage.

You know, most of us don't live

day and night on the Internet, but these other people do. These other people do. So it's two different worlds, to be perfectly honest with you. Two different worlds.

[Joe Kent]

And

[Mark Levin]

I've been posting there, but I certainly don't live there. That's not what I want to do.

So you've heard a lot this hour

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The President feels like he can reach some kind of a deal here. No, he's cautious about it. And he's the man you want in charge of these things, that's for sure, 100%. And he put out a true social post and he talked about it. It. And so the planned strikes against energy targets in Iran have been frozen for five days while the discussions go on. But the United States Air Force and the Israeli Air Force are still hitting what they're calling military and other strategic sites. The air forces are working together. The intelligence, they're working together. This is what they're doing. Doing. You've got people like Bloated Bannon saying that the Israelis are going off on their own and others saying people are going to go off on their own. And Kent saying he's got to keep the Israelis under control. These are very sick people. President hasn't said any of that. Here's the president in Memphis, Tennessee, today. Cut 16, go.

As I announced earlier, based on preliminary conversations between the United States and Iran over the past two days, I've directed the Department of War to temporarily postpone planned strikes against major energy and electricity targets in Iran. They have very, very big, new, actually and very expensive billions of dollars it costs to build them one missile, one of our powerful ones, and it comes down to the ground like it was made out of dust. But to determine whether a broader agreement can be reached, we've had very good discussions, very, very good discussions. And you have to understand, I know my whole life has been a negotiation, but with Iran We've been negotiating for a long time and this time they mean business. And it's only because of the great job that our military did in is the reason they mean business. They want to settle and we're going to get it done.

Well, let's see what happens. We've seen this before from the Iranian regime. The president knows they can't be trusted. So let's see what happens. But notice he said strikes against energy targets in Iran. We, the United States are still striking targets in Iran around Tehran and so forth and so on. The pressure is still on, just not the energy facilities. Cut 17 go.

Hopefully this will be possible. But no matter what, we'll ensure that Iran never obtains a nuclear weapon. They can't have a nuclear weapon. They would have had one if we allowed the Obama deal to stand. That was the Iran nuclear deal. They called if they would have had one. Marsha3 but I tell you what, Martha, we would have nuclear weapons up there. When would you say? Two years ago, three years ago or four years ago? We would have been in a position that nobody wants to be in. We won't allow ourselves to be in that position. Over the past three weeks, the United States military and our partners have been decimating Iran's military capabilities with overwhelming firepower, skill, lethality and force. And we're destroying their ballistic missiles and drones programs. With launches down by more than 90%. We're hitting their launches at a level that nobody even thought of before. 90%. They can't launch them and they don't have very many of them because most of them have been annihilated.

It's interesting now, the Arab states, including the uae, Saudi Arabia, some of the others, they want Iran destroyed. They want regime change. And what's interesting to me is very few people are talking about that, particularly the Israel haters. But the UAE made it clear they want the regime destroyed. Eliminated. Regime change you might call it. Now, since the president launched against Iran, I don't know, what is it, three weeks now, something, give or take,

the

Middle east will be more peaceful. Massive damage has been done by the United States and the Israelis. It gets that entire military infrastructure which apparently was massive as you watch this. And the result will be enormously beneficial.

Now, we've lost some men and women there.

And when you lose one man or woman there, it's one too much. I do understand that. It's a horrible thing. It is a horrible, horrible thing. And they're not to be forgotten. These are great patriots who volunteered to join the military which most people don't do.

Casualties.

The casualties of war. It's a terrible thing. And we. We acknowledge that here all the time. And we also praise and acknowledge our military at the end of every show here. We don't just wait for certain holidays. We have a huge following here of active duty and retired military personnel, veterans. I meet them all the time. We greatly appreciate you and thank you for everything you've done. Just want to make sure we point that out. President in Memphis again today.

Cut 18.

Go.

In other words, we're systematically dismantling the regime's ability to threaten America. They're not threatening us anymore. As commander in chief, it's my sacred responsibility to protect our country from all threats. For decades, Iran refused every opportunity to renounce its nuclear ambitions. And in recent months, its own negotiators bragged to our representatives about having enough material to make nuclear weapons. And that was supposed to deter me, but it didn't deter. It made me more anxious, and it just made it much more important. This mission that we're all on together was much more important, and we did it quicker. Iran's missile capabilities were also growing so fast that it would soon have become virtually impossible to stop them. Once they have a missile. Once they have. What they were building was incredible, and you got a little glimpse of it by the fact that when they came out, they started shooting all of their neighbors. And they. Neighbors weren't fighting with them. They were getting along okay with their neighbors. And I was surprised. They were. Everybody was surprised. And it actually worked in reverse because their neighbors then turned against them.

Mm. Then the president at the Palm Beach International Airport this morning. Cut 19. Go.

[Joe Kent]

Mr. President, Iran's foreign Ministry says you're not telling the truth when it comes to productive conversations.

[Mark Levin]

To. They're going to have to get themselves better public relations people. We have had very, very strong talks. We'll see where they lead. We have points, major points of agreement. I would say almost all points of agreement, perhaps that hasn't been conveyed. Communication, as you know, has been blown to pieces. They're unable to talk to each other. But we've had very strong talks. Mr. Witkoff and Mr. Kushner had them. They went, I would say, perfectly. I would say that if they carry through with that, it'll end that problem, that conflict, and I think it'll end it very, very substantially. We have very much in mind our partners in the Middle East. We've had great relationships with a lot of them, as you know, a lot of them were surprisingly hit and I was surprised to see it and so was everyone else. But we have, they're very much in mind in the discussions. So the discussions took place yesterday. They went into yesterday evening. They want very much to make a deal. We'd like to make a deal too. We're going to get together today by probably phone because it's very hard to find a country. It's very hard for them to get out, I guess. But we'll at some point very, very soon meet. We're doing a five day period. We'll see how that goes. And if it goes well, we're going to end up with settling this. Otherwise we just keep bombing our little hearts out.

We're going to take a little break. We'll be right back.

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All right, let's do one more. We will cover this subject fairly thoroughly today. President Iran again at the Palm Beach International airport this morning. Cut 20 go.

If these talks go well and you reach a ceasefire agreement with Iran, do you believe Israel would abide by that agreement? I think Israel will be very happy with what we have. We just spoke to Israel a little while ago. I think they'll be very happy. This will be peace for Israel. Long term peace, guaranteed peace. If this happens, and you know, I can't guarantee it, but I think it's going to, my life is a deal. That's all I do is deals. My whole Life. I think this is something that's going to happen. And why wouldn't it happen? So tomorrow morning, sometime, their time, we were expected to blow up their largest electric generating plants that cost over $10 billion to build. It's a very good one. There was no dearth of money. And one shot, it's gone. It collapses. Why would they want that? So they called. I didn't call. They called. They want to make a deal. And we are very willing to make a deal. It's got to be a good deal. And it's got to be no more wars, no more nuclear weapons. They're not going to have nuclear weapons anymore. They're agreeing to that. Any of that stuff is no deal.

Mm. So when you think about all this and you hear what the President is saying, and I have complete faith in him on how this is resolved, one way or another. Man has tremendous common sense. He knows who the enemy is. He knows who our allies are. The fact of the matter is that this will be one of the most brilliant, spectacular military operations ever. Again, we need to wait for the outcome. The outcome. But I know this. We can sleep better at night right now knowing that this regime will not be able to complete its mission, knowing that this regime will not have ICBMs that can reach our country, although we

now know they have ICBMs that can

reach Europe and every major capital in Europe.

You know, intelligence goes only so far.

We had intelligence fails before 9, 11. We had intelligence fails before Pearl Harbor. You try to do the best you can, but it's not perfect. When somebody says, you know, the intelligence agencies didn't say this and didn't say that. First of all, that's in dispute with the CIA director himself. But the intelligence agencies give the information ultimately to the President of the United States. He's the commander in chief. It's for him to make the determination, not some intelligence agency,

not some person

two, three levels down. In an intelligence agency,

the president is

elected by we, the people, you, Mr. And Mrs. America, to make these judgments.

And I'd say President Trump has a

hell of a good track record, wouldn't you? And so the goal is to support him if you're in the government, especially if you're a relatively recent appointee, particularly.

It's not like people didn't know where he stood on Iran and nuclear weapons,

whether it was the June bombing or this military operation, this military campaign with our ally Israel.

And so people are very upset that the president didn't listen to them. They call themselves influencers but they had no influence, apparently. This isn't about lobbying the President. This is about the President making a decision based on the best information he has in talking with other world leaders and talking with his military heads. I mean, you got General Kaine, who's fantastic. You got General Cooper, head of centcom. He's doing a fantastic job. But the President makes the decision. It's not a committee decision.

It's the president's decision decision.

It's not the decision of somebody in the DNI or somebody in one of the other agencies. It's his decision.

We elected him to be Commander in Chief under Article 2.

And we know

that our intelligence isn't always great, but we know it's better than most. If not really good. If not really good. And ours is really good. Apparently, so is the Israelis, as a matter of fact, very good, particularly when it comes to their neighborhood. It's one of the reasons we have such an alliance with them.

But it's not a conspiracy. It's not Miriam Adeline Adelson, no,

not in the least. It's the President who makes the decision, and the only one who makes the decision, but not about who contributed and donated to what, who he's friends with, who he meets with, you know. Mr. Producer, Tucker Carlson's been to the White House more than I have, many, many more times than I have. I'm invited, but I don't go. The last time I was at the White House was the Hanukkah Party.

The Hanukkah Party.

I'd been invited to go over for dinner. My wife and I. He loves my wife because she was one of the first lawyers who jumped in to help the President, not with a nutty case, but with a really smart case that got up to the Supreme Court. They couldn't get the four justices to take it up. Challenging the Pennsylvania Supreme Court's abuse of power and the supremacy of the federal constitution over the state constitution. When it comes to. To who gets to make decisions about how election laws are written. We talked about that at the time quite extensively. He remembers that. And I think he likes her a lot more than he likes me. But the truth is I'll go here and there, but I don't go a lot because I don't want to be a problem and I don't want to. To interfere with what the President's doing. If he asked me a question, I'll answer it, though. But he watches my show on Saturday and Sunday. How do I know? He told me so. So the President knows exactly where I stand because I tell you exactly where I stand on my Fox show.

I tell everybody exactly where I stand.

I'm the same person with the same viewpoint regardless of the situation.

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This 18 year old young girl who's going to college in Chicago and she's walking along the water with her friends in an area that is said to be safe. And an illegal alien comes up. She tries to run and get away and he shoots her in the head and kills her. Now for me, this really touches home. We have two daughters. And I look at this young lady who was there from New York. I think about her parents. They'll never be able to hold her again, to give her a kiss on the cheek, to laugh with her, to have a call. Nothing. A life extinguished by somebody who's not supposed to be in this country. And these damnable sanctuary cities and states, I hold them accountable for what they have unleashed on the people in these states. There's not a single sanctuary Republican state, not one. They're all Democrat. And the Democrat alderman in Chicago said, well, she was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Just another number to her. And she was a beautiful young woman. She had her whole life ahead of her. She was doing very well in school. She was happy. And now she's dead. This animal who killed her had her wrecked. And of course they didn't invite ICE in to pick him up and deport him. So now he murdered this young lady. Murdered her. Now, I think when we see something like this, those of us who have kids, we all put ourselves in the position of those parents. We look at the face of this poor girl and it really hits us hard. It hits me very hard. You know, I was thinking, how many people died this weekend in our country?

It's so bad.

More people died this weekend in our country than this, the men and women in uniform did in a war zone in Iran. Is that not shocking, Mr. Medusa? God forbid. We don't want that to happen.

That's not my point.

My point is there's something terribly wrong here.

Right now.

Right now. We don't talk about the casualties at home. We don't talk about the casualties from

sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. We don't talk about the casualties.

When you have mayors like in New York City, in LA and Chicago and

elsewhere, Philadelphia go on and on and on. Boston,

who undermine their police, who always find cuts in the budget when it comes to the cops,

or nationally, federally when they undermine ice, which is exactly

what the Democrat Party is trying to do.

They want to create backdoor amnesty. They do not want to enforce our immigration laws with deportation. And it has consequences.

The Democrats have talked more about the two individuals who died obstructing ice. And look, it's tragic. Don't get me wrong, it's tragic, but more than they've talked about this young lady, I don't know if it's a callousness.

I don't know.

I think there is a callousness which comes with the radical left ideology, whether it's Marxist, Islamist or what. I think there's a callousness that comes with the rogue right, neo fascism. I really do. Because people are not looked at as human beings, they're looked at as groups. So again, oh, the Jews in Israel or the Christian Zionists or the whatever. It's a very dangerous mentality. Very, very dangerous. We've seen it throughout history, but we see it today. This is the overlap between the radical left, the Marxists and the Islamists, as well as the neo fascist woke Reich Reich, as I call it. It's dehumanization. Dehumanization. We need a DNA test to see if you're from this area.

What? Can you point out one thing that he's ever said that chantisement?

Well, there's one, but I got a

whole list of them nonetheless.

This poor kid. She was a kid, just turned 18, is gone forever from her family, from the face of the earth. Most precious thing you have is life. And there's a lot of evil in this world. A lot. Lot. I'll be right back.

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So the the foreign minister of Iran

on February 25, 2026, he says, we

are not developing long range missiles.

We have limited the range below 2,000 kilometers.

March 2026, Iran fires missiles at Diego

Garcia ranging 4,000 kilometers. You mean they lie?

Oh, yeah.

They have a fatwa out there. Don't you know?

Nobody's ever actually seen it.

But it's okay that it's irreligious for them to build nuclear missiles. Did you know that, Mr. Producer?

So of course they're never going to

build a nuclear missile because they put a fatwa out there. But we also know about Taqiyyah, which is a point of philosophy that we've talked about, that their scholars have put out, that we've talked about with Zudi Jasser and other Muslim scholars and reformers who have told us what

that the

goal is to devour and to conquer and that an exception is made for lying and deceiving. If it's in pursuit of that goal, if it's in pursuit of that goal. Yeah. So that's where we are, Mr. Producer. The time is not even 8:00 o' clock yet. You see the time on that ad? Okay. All right, so long. The long. These are called intermediate ballistic missiles. And our intelligence tells us, I mean between our ears. And it's acknowledged that it wouldn't take long to build missiles to hit our country. But missiles, even intermediate range missiles can hit a lot of American bases all over Europe. Obviously hit Europe in virtually every major capital in Europe.

So now suddenly people are saying we didn't know about this.

Well, now we do. There's a lot of surprises that take place. This is one of them. Particularly in a closed police state like this. That's the nature of the beast. In a closed police state like this. Iran is also using satellite like launches to double missile range. We were unaware of this before too. Iran's launch of ballistic missiles over a distance of around 4000km, shattering the 2000 range likely involved a two stage satellite like launch process. And this is according to IDF air defense chief, former air defense chief and others. And the US and Israel are warned the Iranian satellite tests could turn out to be dual use elements leading to intercontinental ballistic missiles, both conventional and nuclear. And we. And they were right.

They've denied the possibility.

They denied the possibility.

I read it to just in February

their Foreign Minister, Aragachi, or whatever the hell his name is. And they lie all the time. If you saw my Fox show last night, my monologue over and over and over, they lie to Obama, they lied to Trump, they lied to Biden and they lied again to Trump and then they slow off. It's like the North Koreans did over and over as I've talked about over the months, the past several months. And now they have nuclear weapons. Now Katarlsson says, but look, that could bring stability.

Stability.

No, that just enshrines a hostile police state. Ask the South Koreans if that brings stability or anybody in that area.

No.

Anytime a regime like this, but particularly this regime in Iran, they're not communists,

you know, Communists want to survive.

They want their cities to survive.

They want to survive.

They believe in the current life.

This regime.

Thomas Sowell even said it, others have said it, experts have said it.

That's not how this, this sort of a cult of death regime thinks.

That's why they have suicide bombers. Suicide bombers. That's why they have them in fact, because they have a different mentality and a lot of people in the west have a great amount of difficulty getting their heads around that I see a lot of people on TV who have difficulty getting their heads around that. Okay, well, we're going to be coming

up to hour three.

We're going to have Joe Kent on during hour three. I want to interview him. I have some questions to ask. Hopefully we'll get some answers. He is making the rounds of the podcaster rounds, I believe. I don't really know all the interviews. I haven't listened to any. I have some notes, maybe some clips, maybe whatever. And also, you know, here's the thing. I never knew this guy. I still don't know this guy. Like I said, I interviewed him in October 2024. We went back, couldn't even find his phone number again. All of a sudden he pops up. Now all of a sudden we're supposed to take his word over the President's. It was not imminent. The President decided we needed it act. Well, I didn't. And, and I'm resigning. And by the way, Israel and their lobbyists, they dragged us into this.

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Hello America. I'm Mark levin. Our number, 8773-813811-87738-3811. Joe Kent served honorably in the United

States military and deserves much credit for it. Nobody's questioning his military service, as far as I know. I'm certainly not. But people are questioning is what he's done as a civilian and especially in the Trump administration.

To be clear, I have no quarrel.

I had no quarrel with Joe Kent other than the speaker asking me to have him on my radio show in October 2024 because he was in a close election for the House seat in Washington State's third District. I knew nothing of him, but I wanted to help. Joe Kent lost that election in 2024, and he lost earlier in 2022. President Trump won that district in both of his successful elections.

But since his resignation last week and

the things he has said, what I

now see are his associations with some,

in my view, very troubling people like Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes.

In fact, he posed in a photo

sitting with Owens just a few days ago, who has relentlessly smeared Erica Kirk in the most heinous ways. Joe Kent today is different than the man I endorse for the House. But my principles have not changed.

The way he resigned and some of the things he said in his letter,

I and many others have been stunned by it. The President's stunned by it, by his reaction today and the other day to me.

If you have something to say to

the President, then say it to the President personally. Loyally timely.

But what Joe Kent did was planned

and, in my view, diabolical. I worked for President Reagan for eight years.

I worked for three Cabinet secretaries, including

as chief of Staff to the Attorney General.

Did I have disagreements? Yes. But I knew he was a good man and the mission was important. And I had all kinds of classified

information crossing my desk when I was chief of Staff to the Attorney General. All kinds. I never discussed it with anybody.

But why resign now? Why not when the war began, what, three weeks or so ago?

We're in the middle of a war.

We have men and women in uniform,

as Joe Kent was one time, who

are fighting a noble war against a barbaric regime that has killed and maimed thousands of Americans and wants to annihilate us. In fact, the regime has spent 47 years terrorizing us. Not Israel, us, the United States. They've tried to kill our president and other high officials. They had a significant role in the 911 mass terror attack in our country, which killed 2,977 of our fellow Americans, as it was demonstrated in two lawsuits. Havlish versus bin Laden and Thomas Burnett Sr.

Versus the Islamic public of Iran.

$114 billion in damages was ordered, but

of course they won't pay.

They killed 241 Marines and sailors and soldiers as they slept in their barracks in Lebanon. They blew up our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing over 200. They attacked our Air Force facility at Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia. They built IEDs that killed over 600 of our soldiers. 17% of all US personnel deaths in Iraq. Iran is murdered directly and through surrogates repeatedly.

Americans. And Joe Kent wants to give the jihadist terrorist regiment with all this history

the benefit of the doubt. Suicide bombers with nuclear weapons.

He says it's not imminent.

And then we read news report after news report with news outlets across the political spectrum alleging that Joe. Joe Kent is a leaker. I'm not making it up. I'm just telling you all of this is in the public record. They claim he leaked classified information. Some reports have alleged he's under investigation by the Department of Justice or the FBI, Semaphore, Axios, Fox, New York Post and others. I have them right here. Other reports indicate Joe Kent was cut out of high level intelligence and presidential discussions about Iran in the lead up to the war and in the war itself. He can tell us yes or no, that is for the last three to four months. He was only in his current position, or his most recent position for seven to eight months, since July to begin with.

With.

Now, could you imagine that? Serving as director of the National Counterterrorism center but not trusted enough half the time you're there. That's a big, big problem. There are news reports that state he was no longer privy to the presidential intelligence briefing material. Again, this is all on the public record. It also appears that Joe Kent's views on Iran and Israel have changed dramatically in a very short period of time. A matter of months. He insists that Iran was not even close to building nuclear weapons, that the threat was not imminent, and Israel and its lobby dragged us into the war. In other words, the usual tropes of the Woke Reich podcasters who he immediately interviewed with after his resignation. And of course, President Trump has denied this, as have the senior members of his Cabinet. The CIA Director John Ratcliffe, under oath specifically last week. Week said that's not true. President was not dragged into war. The President himself has said he more likely dragged the Israelis into war. Radcliffe stated under oath and emphatically it wasn't the case. He also stated that in fact, the Threat was imminent. Radcliffe again is the head of the CIA and he was involved in every

aspect of this discussion, he said. And with the decision by the president, President Joe Kent was reportedly excluded.

According to the president. Within hours of resigning, Joe Kent went on Tucker Carlson show where he stated a number of very troubling things. He insinuated that Israel was behind Charlie Kirk's assassination and I have it right here, which I expect him to now potentially deny or explain. Even insinuated that Israel might be behind the effort to assassinate President Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania. That's on the record, too. In his resignation letter, Joe Kent also declared that Israel dragged us into the war with Iraq. Iraq, when in fact Israel, according to reports also which I have here in newspapers at the time, urged President Bush not to go to war with Iraq. Jokin has also reportedly claimed that his first wife and this is very trash tragic. It was also a very brave soldier

and who was horribly and tragically murdered in 2019. And nobody should have to experience that.

Nobody by an ISIS suicide bomber in

Syria was somehow Israel's fault.

Israel's fault.

I mean, seriously.

Again, a cursory view of the public record and everything I'm telling you is

in the public record is a very trouble.

And there's more. When Carlson interviewed Nick Fuentes a few months ago and I played it for you, I have the clip right here. Fuentes explained how he had colluded with Joe Kent, with whom he had a direct line, he said to help him

in one of his campaigns for Congress,

which he later lost. I wish I had known that.

I certainly wouldn't have endorsed him, but

it didn't matter anyway. Joe Kent has also sought support from Apex. In September 2022, writing in an appeal to AIPAC glowingly of the state of Israel as a mutually beneficial ally and close friend with common enemies, that foreign aid to Israel. I'm quoting that foreign aid to Israel is one of the few worthwhile investments our country makes overseas that delivers a tangible return on our nation's security. He said to AIPAC that anti Semitism and attempts to weaken the state of Israel have no place in our country.

I have that document right here. It's his document.

I also have Joe Kent's April 13, 2024 tweet where he condemned a Democrat House member because she, quote, voted against supporting Israel because the funds would be taken from the IRS. I have an October 7, 2023 Kent for Congress press release where he says in part, when I get to Congress, I will make sure Israel gets the weapon they need to keep themselves secure. More from the public record. On September 16, 2022, Joe Ken issued a statement stating in part, I'm intimately familiar. I'm quoting with the help that Israel has provided the United States. During my military service in the Middle east. My fellow soldiers and I often relied on intelligence provided by the IDF and their intelligence agencies to help us accomplish our mission and keep us alive. And he went on, building close economic, diplomatic and military relations is in the United States best interest and something I will advocate for as a member of Congress. I mean, Joe Ken, I guess was

a neocon, a warmonger, an Israeli firster, a lobbyist.

The phrases he now uses to demean those who hold the same exact position he once held a few months ago and a few years ago. Then there is his tweet on January 8, 2020, where he was frustrated with the delay in taking military action against Iran. 2020, mind you, he tweeted to the President in part, we should not sit and wait for the next attack. Wipe Iran's ballistic capability out and get our troops out of Iraq. They are only targeted.

And now Joe Kent doesn't even think Iran's nuclear advances are a problem. He doesn't even talk about their ballistic missiles, which Iran was manufacturing by the thousands.

Even after Steve Witkoff, who was negotiating with the Iranian regime directly along with Jared Kushner, reported to the President and later publicly revealed that the Iranian regime bragged it had 22,000 pounds of nuclear material and they could make 11 nuclear bombs in 10 days. That's what they told the envoys and furthermore that they refused on every occasion to even discuss reversing course or turning the material over to a third party.

Joe Kent was not convinced.

The Iranian negotiators wouldn't even share an offer that the envoys could take back

to the President and our nuclear experts to examine.

Joe says all 18 intelligence agencies agree

that the Iranian regiment nuclear threat was not imminent. How does he know? Was he in the loop?

Did they tell him? Because the CIA director, he didn't agree. Did they all share that with Joe even though he was reportedly out of the loop? We'll find out. The White House and CIA director have firmly dismissed Kent's claims, stating there were competing. Excuse me, compelling evidence of an imminent Iranian threat. I'm quoting the Them and Iran showed last week it had a mid range ballistic missile that could hit most of Europe, including virtually every capital, when it fired missiles at Diego Garcia, 2,500 miles

from Iran, a joint American British base.

That's Twice as far as Iran's foreign minister had claimed.

Their missiles could travel much further with

the help of China and Russia. It wouldn't be long before they could hit our country. And of course, a nuclear divide can be detonated without a missile of any kind. This is all demeaning of the President. It's demeaning of the men and women in uniform, in my view, who are fighting this war and expect our support.

Joe Kent's resignation letter has been leveraged

by the usual actors to validate their narratives because it comes from a top former US counterterrorism official and is being used to support claims that the US military action is unjustified and orchestrated by foreign interests. And that was Joe Kent's intention, I think, both his timing and the substance of the letter. So it's all Israel's fault and those of its supporters. The President is apparently incapable of making his own informed decisions. Israel got us into all the wars

of the Middle East.

The CIA director, the envoy Witkoff are wrong, as is the President, the Secretary of War and on and on.

Joe knew better. And the icing on the cake, Joe Kent runs to Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly and Candace Owens and more, who've all said some of the most anti American and anti Semitic tropes imaginable.

And now Tucker Carlson wondering out loud, and I quote, could the Iranians obtaining

the bomb wind up being a good thing? And by the way, folks, Republicans and MAGA overwhelmingly support the war effort. CBS just came out with a poll.

92% of MAGA approves of the President

and the war effort.

84% of Republicans approve. 70% of non MAGA Republicans approve. That's MAGA. We Mr. And Mrs. America understand this is a war against a horrendous enemy that has hit us over and over and over again for 47 years. And we don't give them the benefit of the doubt. And I would add that Sebastian Gorka, a significant official in the NSA involved in the Middle east, is furious with Joe Kent. I should add that Dan Bongino, who is deputy Director of the FBI, same he was on Hannity. He said he had access to same information that Joe Kent did. And Joe Kent is wrong. The threat was immigrant minute and there I've laid the foundation. We'll take a break and we'll be right back.

Joe Kent, I'd like to go through some of this with you and give you an opportunity to respond. We got Semaphore, we got Axios, we got the New York Post, we got on and On. And on saying that you were considered a leaker, we have the White House saying it. Were you a leaker? Are you under investigation?

Do you know whether you're under investigation?

Let's try and clear the air.

Right.

Right at the beginning.

[Joe Kent]

Sure, Mark. Thanks for having me on. I never leaked any classified information. And the stories you're reading are stories from leakers who are leaking, I guess maybe an investigation about maintaining a leaker. So I think it's just immediate counter narrative I had.

[Mark Levin]

So nobody has contacted you from justice

or the FBI or anything like that?

[Joe Kent]

Nope.

[Mark Levin]

Did you ever leak? Confident. Let me do it this way. Did you ever leak classified information? You said no. Did you ever leak confidential information?

[Joe Kent]

Nope.

[Mark Levin]

Never.

[Joe Kent]

Never.

[Mark Levin]

Will you cut out. We. Okay, you're on the record.

That's perfectly fine.

And that's a good thing.

Joe, did you. Were you cut out of briefings for the last three months or so when you were there?

[Joe Kent]

No, I wouldn't say it was cut out. I mean, the President can choose to have whoever he wants to have in the actual presidential Oval Intelligence sessions. I still had access to the PDB and was part of Tell Everybody what that is. That were appropriate for my job. The President's Daily Brief.

[Mark Levin]

So you had access to that right

up to the end?

[Joe Kent]

Yeah, till the day I walk out the door.

[Mark Levin]

And why do you think the President said he never really remembers you that well? He never really met with you that often, Is that correct?

[Joe Kent]

Well, the President meets with so many different people. I mean, he knew who I was, but by no means was I a primary advisor to him on a daily basis. However, in terms of determining the threat level that Iran posed to our country, I was a key part of that process. So that was very much in my purview.

[Mark Levin]

And he rejected your view?

[Joe Kent]

I don't think he rejected the view. I think he may have chosen to go a different direction. And I think the vast majority of intelligence and information that he received was given to him to paint a picture that Iran was on the cusp of developing a nuclear weapon, which is simply. Was not the truth. And also, as Secretary Rubio said, there was no imminent threat coming from Iran against the Americans. There was an imminent threat coming from the Israelis who were going to attack. But that's actually the truth.

[Mark Levin]

Hold on, hold on.

We're going to do it.

We're going to do it honestly, one point at a time.

[Joe Kent]

The Iranians observed an escalation ladder. They hadn't attacked us under President Trump.

[Mark Levin]

Can you do me a favor? And I don't mean to be rude.

Can you talk a little more slowly? I'm having trouble hearing. Take your time. Go ahead.

[Joe Kent]

Sure. When. When President Trump came into office, the Iranians knew that President Trump wanted to get a deal. They observed the escalatory ladder very carefully. They stopped having our proxies attack us like they were attacking us under the Biden administration. And they, they got to the negotiating table with us about the nuclear. When the 12 day war kicked off and the Israelis started that, the Iranians still didn't attack us.

[Mark Levin]

All right, all right.

We have to take a break.

I'm going to circle back on some of your comments here and then I have some other questions. I appreciate you being here. We'll be right back with Joe Kemp.

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[Mark Levin]

Back with Joe Kent. We'll try and get through a number of issues as we can. I want to read you something, Joe, for you to respond to here. When one of President Trump's closest advisors who's vocally advocating for us to not go to war with Iran and for us to rethink at least our relationship with the Israelis, and then he's suddenly publicly assassinated and we're not allowed to ask any questions about it. It's a data point. You told Carl about the murder of our friend Charlie Kirk. It's a data point that we need to look into. What are you trying to look into there? What do you think happened there?

[Joe Kent]

What I know is that there were foreign leagues that we didn't get a chance to look into that we did not thoroughly investigate. That's what I know.

[Mark Levin]

You have any country in mind?

[Joe Kent]

No, I think we need to fully investigate the potential of any foreign nexus.

[Mark Levin]

So you think a foreign country may have been involved in his assassination? Does the FBI think that?

[Joe Kent]

What I. What I think is that we need to thoroughly investigate all the potentials. That's what needs to Happen.

[Mark Levin]

I know, but what I'm trying to find out. You're a smart guy, you're an accomplished guy. Is there something that piqued your interest, that caused you to say maybe there's something foreign and we need to look into this? I mean,

[Joe Kent]

there is. I just can't get into it because it's. It's classified and it's part of an ongoing investigation. I hope. But from my vantage point and from what I saw at the National Characterism center, that was not thoroughly looked into.

[Mark Levin]

Don't be.

I'm not trying to be rude. Just slow down. I'm a little hard of hearing. Go ahead. What was that? I didn't hear you.

[Joe Kent]

What I. What I said was there were still foreign. Foreign potential foreign links and leads that we needed to look into. That's right. Now that's what I'm asserting.

[Mark Levin]

So you're not asserting any particular country there?

[Joe Kent]

No, I'm not.

[Mark Levin]

How about Butler? Do you think any foreign government was involved in the attempt to assassinate the president there?

[Joe Kent]

We need to thoroughly investigate that, especially now that Thomas's Crooks online Persona has been uncovered. That needs to be looked into as well.

[Mark Levin]

You think it's Iran?

Maybe.

[Joe Kent]

Maybe we should. We should investigate to see if there's any linkage between Iran, but in particular in between the Iranian agent Asif Merchant, who was just convicted for plotting an assassination attempt against President Trump. That should be looked into to see. To see if those two events are linked. That should definitely be looked into. I think you'd agree on that, wouldn't you?

[Mark Levin]

100%. And because we know Iran did try to assassinate the president, one guy was just convicted of it and the other guy's in Iran. Iran. So that's. He was.

But I was just wondering, this statement

here, because a lot of Jewish groups and others said you were really focusing on Israel, and you're telling me, no, not at all. It could be any foreign country. Correct.

[Joe Kent]

In my statement, my letter of resignation, I say that the Israelis forced President Trump into this war.

[Mark Levin]

I'm talking about this, that you said on Carlson's show. When one president, closest advisors, who's vocally advocating for us not to go to war with Iran and for us to rethink at least our relationship with the Israelis, and then he suddenly, publicly assassinated. We're not allowed to ask questions about that.

It's a data point. What's the data point?

[Joe Kent]

The data point is that the investigation, in my view, especially the foreign ties, has not been complete. And that.

[Mark Levin]

Why did you bring up the Israelis there. Are you talking about.

What are you talking about there?

Botswana? I mean, what.

What are you thinking about when you say that? We're just curious.

Just asking questions.

[Joe Kent]

That Charlie was advocating for us not to go to war with Iran and to rethink our relationship with the Israelis, and then he is killed. This needs to be looked into. That's all I can say.

[Mark Levin]

That's all you can say? Rich, can you play what Charlie said after the President ordered the dropping of the bombs in June on those sites in Iran? Go ahead.

[M]

And you might say, charlie, do you support or oppose this? I support President Trump. That's my answer. I know the man. He's the commander in chief. He's the man for the hour, and he's had the weight of the world on his shoulders. So in a situation like this, I support my friend, and he's had my back, and I have his. That's my perspective, by the way. I also look at this and I see, say, and I understand the arguments of people that, you know, oh, don't intervene and all that. I get it. But, boy, have we not exhausted so many diplomatic channels and options.

[Mark Levin]

What do you think of that?

[Joe Kent]

I didn't resign after Midnight Hammer. Midnight Hammer was a. Was a targeted operation that did not result in a further continuation of the war.

[Mark Levin]

I'm not talking about why you resigned. I'm talking about.

Hold on.

I'm talking about. That was Charlie comment about the President ordering the bombing of those nuclear sites in Iran.

[Joe Kent]

Right, right.

[Mark Levin]

And you were talking about that like you were talking about Charlie being assassinated. Right, right.

[Joe Kent]

He was against the regime change war that's taking place right now.

[Mark Levin]

Okay, hold on.

I'm not.

I'm not talking about Midnight Hammer.

[Joe Kent]

And the bombing was too. Completely different things. Targeted operations are completely different.

[Mark Levin]

You were talking about the assassination, as

[Joe Kent]

we've seen, with the ramifications when one

[Mark Levin]

of President's closest advisors is vocally advocating for us not to go to war

with Iran and for us to rethink at least our relationship with the Israelis. And then he's suddenly, publicly assassinated. President Trump wasn't talking about hitting Iran again in September.

We're talking about June.

[Joe Kent]

We. We knew that after Midnight Hammer, it was evident that the Israelis still wanted regime change in Iran and they were going to continue to push.

[Mark Levin]

How did the Israelis get all this power over President Trump? He tells you. He says to you, that's not right. Radcliffe says, that's not right. Hegseth says, that's not right. I don't know what the vice President said. But why do you keep insisting on it when they keep insisting it's not true?

[Joe Kent]

Because in real time, over the course of the last year, we watched the Israelis through their official engagements with members of our government and the media echo chamber, which I believe you are a part of, move President Trump's red line from saying that Iran can't have a nuclear weapon to saying Iran can't have any enrichment because President Trump and the former supreme leader of Iran agreed that Iran was not going to get a nuclear weapon. They were a new.

[Mark Levin]

Believed them.

[Joe Kent]

Table.

[Mark Levin]

You believe.

[Joe Kent]

So he is. Well, I believe that 18 intelligence, 18 members of the intelligence.

[Mark Levin]

Apparently it was an 18. Because the CIA director said you're wrong.

[Joe Kent]

What? The assessment that the coordinated assessment the CIA sent to the ODNI said that they were not working towards getting a nuclear bomb because the supreme leader had a prohibition on the development of nuclear.

[Mark Levin]

So you believed his fox.

I mean, this is, this is kind of foolish.

So they put out a. The guy just lied about the dis.

Hold on now, hold on.

The guy lied about the distance of

their ballistic missiles in February. His foreign minister did.

[Joe Kent]

Why then? Why then? Why didn't Iran have a nuclear weapon? They've been trying. If they've been.

[Mark Levin]

Why didn't Iran have, what, 2004?

[Joe Kent]

Why didn't they have a nuclear weapon? If Iran wanted.

[Mark Levin]

Why do you think they didn't have a nuclear weapon? Because we and the Israelis and perhaps other countries. Countries stop them with cyber warfare and other things. I'm not even understanding your argument.

[M]

Let's.

[Mark Levin]

Let's try it this way. Let's go back to basics.

[Joe Kent]

No, we had no intelligence that said that Iran was working to develop a nuclear weapon. That information came from the Israelis. And then the fact that.

[Mark Levin]

No, it came from Witkoff, who directly said we were negotiating with the Iranians, that they told us. Hold on now, hold on. I need the public to understand this. All right, you go first and I'll.

[Joe Kent]

President Trump said no nuclear weapons. And then through official engagements, through the Israelis, and then also the media echo chamber that wanted regime change in Iran said, no, no, no, we need to say that the Iranians can't.

[Mark Levin]

What about the media echo chamber, your buddies who didn't want regime change in Iran? There's a lot of echo chambers out there, wouldn't you say?

[Joe Kent]

It appears that your media, your media echo chamber was much more successful.

[Mark Levin]

No, it wasn't. I never lobbied the president. Hey, hey, pay attention to me. I never lobbied the president. You guys keep putting that crap out There. I met with the president once at his request, and I said to the president, ready for this, Joe? I said, they're telling. They're saying out there that I'm lobbing you. You know what he did? He laughed. You know what he said? Mark, I know where you stand. I watch your show on Saturday and Sunday. Anything I say here, pay attention. Anything I say here, What I would say, I did.

What?

[Joe Kent]

You can lobby him by using the power of your show.

[M]

The power.

[Mark Levin]

Come on, brother.

You're not. You're sounding almost ridiculous now.

Now, let's go on.

Have a question. There's been a big controversy now, Andrew Covid, now, media. It's covered it. Other people have covered it. He put out a video. He gave you text messages confidentially.

Hold on, man. Let me just get the question.

[Joe Kent]

You can dispute it, anybody, but I

[Mark Levin]

explain it to the public.

Hold on.

So they got. They got. What is it? Why don't you want to answer this? You only let me set up the question. He said that he gave you text messages from Charlie Kirk, all this discussion about the Israelis and donors and so forth, that you called him and you said, make it public. He said, no, I'm not comfortable doing that. And then the next thing he knows, Candace Owens has it and she makes it public and she's off to the races just like you and Tucker and the rest. Did that happen or not? Did you give it to Candace Owens, yes or no?

[Joe Kent]

I did not give anything to Kenneth Owens.

[Mark Levin]

Well, this is good to know. So you've never leaked.

You didn't give anything to Candace Owens? I have a much higher regard for you now.

That's the truth.

I don't care for what you've done.

When you issue. When you put that letter out, you

knew it would do maximum damage to the president, didn't you?

The timing.

For instance, if you were going to resign because you didn't agree with this war, why didn't you resign when the war started?

[Joe Kent]

Because I was hoping that we would immediately de escalate and try and get back in the negotiating cable.

[Mark Levin]

Start a war, Warren. De escalate in three days.

[Joe Kent]

I thought. I was hoping that we were limited strikes and then unlimited strikes like we did in Midnight Hammer, and then. And then back off and go back to the negotiating table once I realized that that was not going to happen and we were spiraling deeper into this and we were starting to lose brave men and women in yet another Middle Eastern war driven by the Israeli agenda. That's what led me.

[Mark Levin]

You got.

You got A real hate on you

got a real hate on, brother.

No, you do. What happened? Hold on, hold on. Joe, when I had you on my show, I read your texts, I read them out loud and you've like done a 180.

Why is that?

Because you had access to intelligence or something. Why have you changed?

[Joe Kent]

I have. I have not done a 180. I have no problem with us working with Israel. I have a problem with Israel driving our foreign policy in the Middle east as they have done to get us.

[Mark Levin]

You have no respect for Donald Trump's agency, that he has the capacity to make these decisions himself.

[Joe Kent]

I have the utmost respect for the president.

[Mark Levin]

You can answer my question.

You don't sound like it.

[Joe Kent]

I believe that he was influenced by the media echo chamber and by the Israeli.

[Mark Levin]

He's influenced by your media echo chamber or maybe he's influenced by the Saudis and the Qatar, who knows? He made a decision. Can't you accept the fact that, fact that he's a great president, that he took in all this information, he listened to all his advisors and he made a decision. You may disagree with it, but why do you create a conspiratorial notion that Israel, nine and a half billion people, a tiny economy and everything dragged powerful Donald Trump, the United States into war? Not one. You even have them dragging us into the Iraq war when on the record they said they didn't want to do the Iraq war, they opposed us doing.

[Joe Kent]

Doing come up with that one in, in this administration. I watched the Israeli media. You were there seven months of the Israeli government. I watched that. Well, no, I came in day one and I worked as the DNI's chief of staff until I was confirmed.

[Mark Levin]

So by the way, does Tulsi Cabbard agree with you?

[Joe Kent]

You have to ask her. But what I did see is, I'm asking you. Really? Media echo chamber. And I'm at. And I'm not going to speak for Tulsi Gabbard. What I'm telling you is the, the

[Mark Levin]

speaking for the President. You said he was convinced by Israel.

[Joe Kent]

No, I'm speaking for Joe Kenneth. That's why I resigned, so I could speak freely. I saw, I watched.

[Mark Levin]

By the way, that's very interesting.

[Joe Kent]

Nukes to engagement. What we watched there, the red line moved from no nukes to no enrichment. That basically short circuited the ability for there to be a deal leading us basically to a military conflict that was driven by Israel.

[Mark Levin]

What does that mean? Slow down, Joe. What does that mean?

No nukes to nuclear enrichment.

What does that mean?

[Joe Kent]

That's a great. That's a great question. So President Trump has always said, and I think, I think most people agree, that Iran can't get a nuclear bomb. Now, the former supreme leader agreed and he had that fatwa in place. So that gave the Iranian.

[Mark Levin]

The fatwa meant crap.

[Joe Kent]

Get to the negotiating.

[Mark Levin]

That's where you and I disagree. Guy has a fatwin Place, slaughters 50,000 of his own people. It's not, hey, Joe, he's a terrorist.

[Joe Kent]

Mark, I believe the 18 intelligence agencies that said that Iran was not developing.

[Mark Levin]

Guess what? The President agrees with his own conclusions.

That is that you're wrong.

[Joe Kent]

Okay, let's go.

[Mark Levin]

Mr. Radcliffe believes you are wrong. So the Secretary of Defense believes you're wrong. The Secretary of State believes you're wrong. And I can go right down the line list.

[Joe Kent]

Well, actually, by the way, name the

[Mark Levin]

18 intelligence agencies that agree with you.

Joe.

I don't even know what they are.

[Joe Kent]

The entire. We don't have that much time, Mark. It's the intelligence communities of the United States. Most people can look those up. There was unanimous agreement by the IC that Iran was not developing a nuclear weapon.

[Mark Levin]

I got to take a break. We'll come back. I'm going to let you finish, Joe. I'm going to let you finish. Hold your thought. I got to take a break.

It's the nature of radio and TV and all the rest of it, so stick with me.

Mud love in.

Joe Kent. President said he decided to do. To take these steps because the Iranians weren't negotiating in good faith. His envoys come back to him and say they just told us they have all this nuclear material and that they're not going to give it up and they're not going to give it to a third party and a number of other things. And you say it was Israel. Explain.

[Joe Kent]

The Israelis launched the attack and we knew that the Iranians would, would counter attack. That, that is the, the only imminent attack was actually the Israelis launching the attack. So that's what got us into this.

[Mark Levin]

That's been denied.

[Joe Kent]

Joe. We were in.

[Mark Levin]

Joe. The President of the United States said that's okay.

He dragged the Israelis in.

[Joe Kent]

Right. Initially, the Secretary of State, the speaker of the House, Secretary of Defense, they all said that we had to attack because the Israelis were going to attack.

[Mark Levin]

So they're all lying.

[Joe Kent]

Vantage point. That's, that's, that's what I, that's what I saw as well.

[Mark Levin]

They're all lying. Now.

[Joe Kent]

What I, what I saw. What I saw was the, was the Israelis driving us because they wanted the regime change war. They wanted to force our hand. To make the Iranians to attack Iran, to make the Iranians counterattack us so that we would be in the conflict.

[Mark Levin]

I think you're extremely conspiratorial. I think that you're ignoring what all the other senior officials and the President have said. I really do. And I hope when you tell me you haven't leaked, because all these people in the White House say you have, that you're telling me the truth, I have no reason to disbelieve you. I hope when you tell me that you didn't leak those texts to Candace Owens, I hope you're telling me the truth. I hope when you're telling me 18 intelligence agencies all came together and said that the Iranians are not close to getting nukes. I hope you're telling me the truth.

[Joe Kent]

And also public testimony in Congress.

[Mark Levin]

Yeah, well, you have public testimony in Congress from one of them. The CIA director that says you're full of blood baloney.

[Joe Kent]

The ODNI who's responsible for representing the 18 intelligence community.

[Mark Levin]

But he's the CIA. He's the big dog.

[Joe Kent]

We're not.

[Mark Levin]

And I asked you what. Gabbard.

But I asked.

Attitude.

And you said I have to interview her.

[Joe Kent]

Agency contributed to the assessment.

[Mark Levin]

Can you ask me about who makes the final decision? Joe takes in all the information that

the agencies put together. Who does that? You or the president?

[Joe Kent]

The president does. But in this case, the Israelis decided to.

[Mark Levin]

Did the intelligence agencies miss 9 11,

or was that the Israelis, too?

The intelligence agencies miss Pearl Harbor? Or is that the Israelis, too? I'm really worried about you, brother. I really am. When you were first on my show, you seem pretty straightforward and sane about this stuff.

[Joe Kent]

I am pretty straightforward. I don't think a foreign government should be allowed to dictate when we go to war.

[Mark Levin]

I don't think they did. I think the president makes Israelis have. Joe, you're going to keep mentioning Israelis.

It's getting very boring and silly.

The president made the decision. The president said he made the decision. The top brass.

Do you think General Kaine is a good general?

[Joe Kent]

Yeah, he is a good general.

[Mark Levin]

Do you think he's doing this because

the Israelis want them to do it?

How about centcom General Cooper? Is he doing it? Is he in service? Is he in service to the Israelis?

[Joe Kent]

Neither of them are responsible for taking us off the war. The important thing is what took us off the war.

[Mark Levin]

But they didn't resign in a public

letter like you did either.

Hey, Joe, I want to thank you for coming on.

I really do wish you the best of luck.

Well, folks, it's over. Over. I'll see you tomorrow. God bless you. I don't know what we learned, but have a wonderful night.