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3/3/26 - The Truth Behind Iran's Nuclear Ambitions

Mark Levin Podcast

Wed Mar 04 2026

Summary

Mark Levin Podcast: “The Truth Behind Iran's Nuclear Ambitions” Date: March 4, 2026
Guest: Steve Witkoff, former envoy with Jared Kushner
Host: Mark Levin
Network: Cumulus Podcast Network

Episode Overview

In this charged and revealing episode, Mark Levin sits down with Steve Witkoff, who, alongside Jared Kushner, participated directly in high-stakes negotiations with Iran in the run-up to the US’s recent military action. Witkoff provides firsthand insight into the Iranian regime’s negotiating tactics and nuclear ambitions, the Trump administration’s approach, and why a credible deal was never on the table. The episode cuts through public statements and media narratives, delivering a granular, behind-the-scenes account of Iran’s intentions—and why the administration decided force was necessary.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Scene: Inside Iran Nuclear Diplomacy

Witkoff and Kushner’s Mission:
President Trump deputized Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner to determine if Iran was sincerely willing to broker a deal that could be signed and enforced. They led a series of meetings—primarily in Muscat, Oman and Geneva—with Iranian officials, mediated by Omani diplomats.

2. Meeting #1 in Muscat – Iran’s “Maximalist” Stance ([02:57])

Face-to-Face with Iranian Envoys:
Early in discussions, Iran’s lead negotiator stated, “Enrichment is considered to be, by his leadership, Iran's inalienable right.”
Witkoff recounts: “At some point, very, very, very early in the conversation, Arachi laid down the marker by saying enrichment is considered… Iran’s inalienable right.” ([04:41])
Iran’s Fissile Material Stockpile:
- ~10,000 kilograms (≈22,000 lbs) of enriched uranium in various grades:
  - 8,000 kg at 3.67%
  - 1,000 kg at 20%
  - 460 kg at 60%
- At 60%, Iran was only about a week to ten days from having weapons-grade uranium.
Iranian Boasting:
The Iranian side treated this stockpile as a “trophy.” Arachi told them directly:
Quote: “We will not give you at the negotiating table which you could not win militarily.” ([08:10])

Levin emphasizes the implications and Witkoff clarifies the depth of Iranian intransigence:
Levin: “So, to be clear... they had over a ton of this fissile material... and they're telling you it's off the table?”
Witkoff: “No, it's more than that... it’s 24,000 pounds.” ([09:29])
Comparison to Hamas:
Witkoff stunningly claims, “...in some respects, [Hamas were] more reasonable than these guys.” ([10:56])

3. Subsequent Meetings – Stonewalling and Deception ([15:36])

Second Meeting:
- Little movement; Iranians agreed to draft a proposal but never delivered it until much later, and only allowed it to be read, not taken for analysis.
- “They were pretending to negotiate… they were obfuscating the entire time.” ([17:19])
Progress Rhetoric:
- Iranian and European negotiators spun talk of “great progress,” but Witkoff says, “We refused to sign it because we weren’t making great progress.” ([17:25-17:29])

4. Revealing Iran’s Hidden Nuclear Ambitions – The Tehran Research Reactor (TRR) ([21:03])

Research vs. Weapons:
- TRR was supposed to enrich uranium for medical radioisotopes at 20%—but in reality, Iran was stockpiling at this level and not using it for stated medical purposes.
- Witkoff explains:
  “By labeling it a research reactor, they got to begin enrichment at 20% with no intention of using it for radioisotopes... 20% gives you a big head start over 3.67.” ([25:51])
Perry Mason Moment:
- Caught in the act: IAEA’s Rafael Grossi called out Iran for not using stockpiled fuel.
- Levin: “What did they say when you caught them right there at the table?”
- Witkoff: “They really didn’t have an answer, certainly not a satisfactory answer.” ([27:24])

5. The Offer They Refused ([28:37])

US Proposals:
Witkoff details an overture:
- Zero enrichment for 10 years, with outside nuclear fuel paid for and supplied.
- Iran flatly refused: “No, no, no, no, no. We don’t need your money and we don’t need our dignity to be assaulted by you suggesting you need to pay something for us.”
Deception Laid Bare:
Levin: “So they really were deceiving you or attempting to from day one?”
Witkoff: “Correct, correct.” ([28:37])
- He details the “breakout” risk: with the 60% and 20% stock, Iran could rapidly make 11+ bombs—possibly up to 30—if unchecked.
Exclusion of Inspectors:
Witkoff: “...the IEA [hasn’t] been able to make an inspection for the last 10 or 11 months because they [Iran] cut them out.” ([30:57])

6. The Final Report to President Trump ([31:12])

Summary for the President:
Witkoff: “Mr. President, they’re lying to us. There’s no doubt. Their deceptions all over the place. The fingerprints are on it... The facts are unassailable.”
Levin: “And I, I like to say this. Great men faced with great consequential problems, they make great decisions.” ([31:54])
On Congressional Briefings:
Witkoff notes he did not brief the 'Gang of Eight' directly but believes key facts were shared with Congress via the foreign policy team.
“...Marco [Secretary of State], who is sensible, grounded... knows this set of facts...” ([32:43])

7. Closing Assessments ([34:04])

Iran’s True Motives:
Iran had no intention of a genuine deal; no flexibility, decisions held by the Supreme Leader.
Urgency of Action:
- “The concern... was they could break out very quickly and you couldn’t keep sitting around waiting for them to delay.” ([34:04])
- They wouldn’t even hand over a draft agreement—just allowed it to be read.
Witkoff’s Judgment:
- Asked if Iranian negotiators were the worst he’d dealt with:
  “These were the most disingenuous...” ([36:21])
Final Thoughts:
Both Witkoff and Levin close by highlighting Trump’s resolve, delegating authority, and “greatness” as a leader in the face of existential threats.

Notable Quotes

On Iranian obstinacy:
“We will not give you at the negotiating table which you could not win militarily.” — Iranian negotiator, recounted by Witkoff ([08:10])
On the risk:
“At 60%, it’s a week to 10 days. On the 60, that’s 11 bombs. And on the 20... another 25 bombs... within a few months.” — Witkoff ([29:40])
On the research reactor ruse:
“By labeling it a research reactor, they got to begin enrichment at 20%... because maybe it’s a month and a half from 20 to 90 [percent], which is weapons grade.” — Witkoff ([25:51])
Comparing negotiating partners:
“In some respects, [Hamas were] more reasonable than these guys.” — Witkoff ([10:56])
On President Trump’s leadership:
"Great men faced with great consequential problems, they make great decisions." — Witkoff ([31:54])

Timestamps for Key Segments

02:57 – Levin introduces Witkoff, lays out the stakes.
04:41 – Iran’s “inalienable right” to enrichment.
06:56 – Details on fissile material stockpile.
08:10 – Maximalist negotiating posture revealed: “What you could not win militarily.”
10:56 – Witkoff compares Iranian regime to dealing with Hamas.
15:36 – Second meeting: promises, delays, “diplomatic treachery” accusations.
17:25 – “Great progress” charade and refusal to sign statements.
21:03 – TRR and the research reactor deception.
25:51 – 20% enrichment as nuclear weapons head-start.
27:24 – Perry Mason moment: IAEA calls out Iran.
28:37 – US offers zero-enrichment deal; Iran’s flat refusal.
31:12 – Briefing the President: “They’re lying to us.”
36:21 – Witkoff: Iranian officials “the most disingenuous” to negotiate with.

Additional Highlights & Tone

Witkoff’s and Levin’s tone is urgent, incredulous, and at times, scathing about the Iranian regime’s duplicity.
Witkoff is adamant that the Trump team “went the extra mile”—but were met with deceit at every turn.
The episode is a blistering critique of both Iranian negotiating tactics and media narratives which emphasize progress.
The broader context includes comparisons with other US adversaries and emphasizes the importance of American and Israeli leadership.
The episode strongly rejects claims that Israel drew America into war, instead framing US action as both necessary and independently justified.

For Listeners: Why This Matters

This episode provides a rare, granular view into historic decision-making as the US confronted a potentially nuclear-armed Iran. For those questioning the necessity and urgency of action, the firsthand narratives and details outlined by Steve Witkoff add vital context often absent from headlines and political debate.

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Transcript

A (0:00)

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B (2:31)

Very good, Mark. How are you doing?

A (2:32)

I'm doing great. And I wanted to have you on the program because you have some information, you touched on it on Hannity last night as well, about your experience, Jared Kushner's experience in dealing with this Iranian regime before the President decided it was time to pull the trigger. Can you fill us in on this?

B (2:57)

Well, first of all, Mark, you know, the president sent me and Jared in because he wanted to really determine if it was possible to make a deal that they would sign, right? Not, not just agreed to, but that they would sign and that they. And that could be enforced. And so we went back and we began the session in Oman. We were in Muscat. And, you know, we had two other meetings with them in Geneva. And I would say that they wanted to report a lot of positivity. And Jared and I, from almost the go, were suspect as to whether they would, they would really, they would do the type of deal that would be acceptable to President Trump. And we turned out, I think, to be right.

A (3:47)

So the first meeting, you never met face to face, I take it, is that correct?

B (3:52)

No, we met face to face. You know, the bosses back in Tehran had said that they couldn't do it direct. The foreign minister from Oman, Badr Bousadi, was the mediator. So we met at, I want to say I can't remember, it might have been his home, but we met at his home. And, you know, they were very gracious. Arachi and his team, his deputy and some other people were in another room. But they, but they came and joined, you know, after they had some conversation directly with the Omanis, they came and joined, joined Jared and I in the room, and that's where we had direct conversation with them. I remember the first meeting, Mark, that, that, that we had in Muscat. At some point, very, very, very early in the conversation, Arachi laid down the marker by saying enrichment is considered to be, by his leadership, that Iran's inalienable right. That sort of, you know, began it. At that point we, we began discussing the material, you know, the, all of the, all of the enriched material that they have been stockpiling. It's close to 10,000 kilograms, by the way. And I'll, at some point during this interview, I'll take you through the breakdown of it all. But they began discussing it and Jared was a witness to this. They were talking about the 60% enriched material, which is roughly 460 kilograms. And to get to weapons grade, which is 90% for a bomb, you're about a week, maybe 10 days away when you're at 60%. So they've got all this, all this material at 60%. And it's an obvious concern to us. And he knew it and he said to us, you know, and I know, and the Europeans know, because they attest to it, that that's 11 bombs. So that's, that's why this material is so important to you. And I've described that as them being proud that they held it, that this was, you know, this was something of a, of a trophy that they had. And there's no doubt in my mind that that's how they, that's how they thought about it, about that material. But let me, let me tell you one point about that first meeting because it's sort of fascinating as we were talking about all the material, and the material includes roughly 8,000 kilograms of enriched material at 3.67%, another thousand kilograms at 20%, which is a story unto itself. And then roughly 460 kilograms at 60. We were talking about.

B (21:03)

Okay. So Mark, first let me take a step back. This is all sort of around the third meeting but leading up to the third meeting we also saw signs that made us feel that they were being disingenuous. They promised an agreement at the second meeting that we would get five days after we never got it. We asked for it continuously. You can't work on these things unless you have some sort of paper that you can, you know, there it is palpable on the paper. We can have a discussion about it. They refused to give us the agreement on at the third meeting but they'd let us peruse it which was not acceptable in any event. Let me, let me, let me get into. Because the third meeting involved TRR because it was discovered TRR stands for Kayron Research Reactor. There are industrial grade reactors and there are research reactors, Espahan, Natanz, Fordo, which were enrichment facilities and so forth. Those are, they were all enriching at an at an industrial grade level. Those were all wiped out and wiped out during the Midnight Hammer operation. And one of the deal points here was for all of those facilities to be decommissioned and permanently shut down because they had no use but to make. They had no use but to make enriched material and have it stockpiled for later use. There was no civilian use attached to it. We had talked to the Iranians for a long time about doing something called the civil 1, 2, 3 nuclear program, where they could get all the, have all the nuclear they wanted, but they couldn't enrich it. It would be bought from the outside, from whether it's us, the Russians, the French, it's readily available. And countries like Abu Dhabi are running civil 1, 2, 3 programs for their own internal needs. A civil needs mean that you're generally enriching to 3.67% in a 1, 2, 3 program. You're not doing the enrichment because you're buying it from an outside purveyor, but the fuel is being delivered at 3.67%. A research reactor like Tehran Research Facility reactor must enrich because it's a research reactor. To do radioisotopes. Radioisotopes are in require as an ingredient for the process enrichment of nuclear fuel at 20%. 20% is roughly five and a half times 3.67%, which is that level needed for civil use to provide electricity and so forth. So that's five times, five times the level of the JCPOA at 20%. Now, for quite some time, everyone on this earth was under the assumption that TRR was enriching at 20% because they were genuinely producing radioisotopes for the betterment of Iranian society. Those radioisotopes to be used for making medicines, cancer research, agricultural research, to make more efficient crops, things of that sort. And when they gave us this agreement in the third session, about seven pages, and they let me read it and I become, I wouldn't tell you I'm an expert in nuclear, but I've learned quite a bit and I've studied it and read quite a bit about it and you know, I'm competent to sit at the table and discuss it and Jared is as well. We read the agreement and what did we figure out? We figured out that they wanted to do other research reactors. And the reason they wanted those other research reactors is because the enrichment there starts at the 20% level, five times more than JCPOA. And then we saw embedded in their flowchart as to what they needed is that they had consumed all of their fuel at trr, when in fact they had not. The IEA had evidence that they were stockpiling there and they had enough fuel to run TRR for the next seven or eight years without any additional fuel being delivered. So the.

A (37:27)

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A (41:19)

Wasn't that extraordinary? What we're gonna do is we're gonna make a. We have a recording of that. We are editing out the commercials and in the brakes. So we'll pull it all together, tighten it up, and we're gonna put it out on our social media and elsewhere so the word can get out. Because the bottom line is the President had absolutely no choice. That's the truth. Now we'll see if platforms out there, news platforms, cable news, news networks, are interested in the facts. I dare say most of them will not be. But that doesn't mean you can't share this information. I would also tell you that my video podcast has been very news breaking, very, very important. It's called Liberty's Voice. We did our seventh episode today. It's all free. Marco pays for it all. You can go to Rumble and view it There, you can go to YouTube and view it there at Rumble. You can follow us at YouTube. You can subscribe, but you can view it at either location. 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I hope you'll take advantage of it because again, it is intended to mesh with the radio program and the TV show to build up all the audiences on all the platforms, you know, all the different technologies to really build a juggernaut for the midterm election so we can save this nation from what would be a horrible fate if the Democrats won the House and or the Senate. This is what we're going to do. We Thomas Paines, we Paul Revere's. It doesn't matter who you are. It doesn't matter what your background is. You don't have to be a big shot. You don't have to be rich. You don't have to be any of those things. Just be interested. So please join us in this new endeavor. It's very important. Liberty's Voice at Rumble. You can follow us there. YouTube, subscribe. When I say subscribe, it's something I gotta pay. You don't have to pay a thing. And you can just view us right there. We also have some of the best, I think, input in our social sites because I'm working it hard these days because there's so much at stake. So on X, AKA Twitter, we're on Facebook. Where else are we? Rich? I don't even know. TikTok, Instagram, Truth Social. Of course. We're on all of them. All of them. So we've really expanded our reach. We think it's very, very important. I do, and there's a lot I want to get to tonight. But before I do, it's Purim. It's the Jewish Holiday of Purim. And if you're Persian, you had a role in this. I want to read something to you written by a gentleman who is a Moroccan, a journalist, a Muslim, and he appears to be an all around good guy. Adil Fauzi, writing in the Times of Israel, when the Mossad launched a Farsi language telegram channel on Saturday morning, this Saturday morning, hours into operation Roaring lion, or what we call the hell do we call it again? Fury, epic fury, and addressed Iranians as our brothers and sisters, quote unquote, promising that quote, together we will return Iran to its glorious days. The predictable chorus erupted across Arab capitals and Western campuses alike. Who are the Jews to appoint themselves liberators of Iran? By what right does Israel of all nations presume to speak of freeing a people it is never governed in a land, it is never occupied. Now, the objection sounds reasonable until you open a history book, at which point it collapses entirely. Because the relationship between Jews and Persians is not a geopolitical convenience manufactured in 2026. If you listen to the Jew haters, that's what they say. It is one of the oldest, deepest, most consequential alliances in the recorded history of civilization. And what Israel did on Saturday was not colonial arrogance, but the repayment of a debt that is 25 centuries old. In 586 BCE, the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II destroyed Solomon's Temple, the first temple, razed Jerusalem and marched the Jewish people into exile. Babylonian captivity, one of the defining catastrophes of Jewish history. For 70 years, the Jewish nation existed in bondage, its holiest site in ruins, its people scattered across a foreign empire with no army, no sovereignty, no realistic hope of return. And then in 539 BCE, Cyrus the Great, a Persian, not a Jew, conquered Babylon and issued the decree that altered the trajectory of Jewish civilization permanently. The edict of Cyrus permitted the Jews to return to Jerusalem to rebuild their temple and reconstitute their national life in the land from which they had been torn. He didn't merely allow the return, he financed it, sending back the sacred vessels that Nebuchadnezzar had plundered and providing resources for reconstruction. The Hebrew Bible records the decree in terms so exalted that Cyrus remains to this day the only non Jew ever referred to in Jewish scripture as Mashaya. God's anointed. The book of Isaiah, written before Cyrus was born, calls him by name and declares him chosen by God to liberate his people. No other gentile figure in 3,000 years of Jewish literature occupies this position. The Persian king who freed the Jews is embedded in Jewish consciousness not as a political ally, but a divine instrument. And the gratitude is not metaphorical. It is theological, liturgical and civilizational. This was not a singular episode. The Persian Jewish relationship extended across centuries. The Achaemenic dynasty, Darius I continued Cyrus policies and contributed to the completion of the Second Temple in 515 BCE. The Book of Esther, read aloud in every synagogue on Purim, records how Esther and Mordecai, operating within the Persian court of King Kassasuerus, foiled Haman's plot to exterminate every Jew in the empire. Do you know where esther is buried, Mr. Medusa? In Iran, the festival of Purim is at its core a celebration of Persian Jewish solidarity. A Jewish queen trusted by a Persian king intervening within the structures of Persian power to save her people from annihilation. That this strike fell on Purim the very day Jews read the Megillah, recounting how the last man who plotted Jewish destruction from Persian soil was himself destroyed, carried a symmetry so precise that for many in the Jewish world it felt less like coincidence and more like the closing of a circle that history itself had drawn. And this is the point that those who mock Israel's rhetoric of liberation either do not know or choose to ignore. Persians are not Arabs. The Persian relationship with the Jewish people has never been defined by the eliminationist hostility that characterized much of the Arab world's posture towards Jewish sovereignty. Iranians did not invade Israel in 1948. Iranians did not block the Straits of Tiran. Iranians did not chant for the destruction of the Jewish Strait in 1967. Under the Shah, Iran was one of the first Muslim majority nations to recognize Israel, maintained full diplomatic relations, cooperated on intelligence and infrastructure, and hosted a thriving Jewish community that had existing continuously in persia soil for 27 centuries. One of the oldest Jewish diasporic communities in the world. The rupture came in 1979. And it was not the Iranian people who chose enmity toward the Jews. It was the theocratic regime that hijacked the revolution, imposed Shia Islamist ideology onto an ancient pluralistic civilization and adopted the Arab world's anti Zionist vocabulary as a tool of domestic and regional control. The Death to Israel chants were manufactured by a clerical establishment that needed an external enemy to justify internal repression. Not by the heirs of Cyrus, who'd been intermarrying with Jews, trading with Jews and protecting Jews since before the Parthian was built. This is why the Mossad's message resonated as deeply as it did among the Iranian diaspora, not because Iranians are naive about Israeli motives, but but because they recognize in it something that the cynics could not see, an acknowledgement that the Iranian people are not their regime, that a civilization that produced Cyrus, Hafez, Ferdowsi, Ruma, and Aficena cannot be reduced to the theocratic junta that censored their poetry, murdered their daughters for showing their hair, and turned their ancient nation into a pariah state synonymous with enriched uranium and proxy warfare. When Netanyahu declared that the operation would create the conditions for the brave Iranian people to take their destiny into their own hands, he was not speaking the language of colonial imposition. He was speaking the language of a debt, a debt that stretches back to a clay cylinder in the British Museum inscribed with the words of a Persian king who, 25 centuries ago looked at a captive Jewish nation and said, go home, rebuild and live the Jews remember. And on Saturday, in the skies over Tehran, they began to repay. I thought you should know. I'll be right back.

A (53:47)

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And they prove themselves by the opposition they face domestically and internationally, the obstacles they've overcome in their own countries, the lack of appreciation for both of them. But history is a way of fixing things. These are two men who've aligned together, together to stop the annihilation of the world with nuclear weapons by a seventh century, primitive, barbaric ideology and regime. The Lilliputians, the everyday cheap politicians are everyday cheap politicians. But when you step back and you look at it, what these men have been up against, people tried to destroy them. People still try to destroy them, tried to kill them, try to put them in prison. And they rose up above it all. I believe God has a purpose. I really do. These men will be remembered for thousands of years. Thousands of years, and the rest of them won't be. This show is different from any show on radio, any show on tv, any podcast, any of it. Because I think history is crucial to having a context for your thinking process. You go on the Internet today, you're going to have a bunch of haters, vile people, throwing around slogans, calling people's names. We have a site on all these different social media platforms and I insist on using them to get the word out, to fight these hostile elements, to promote our country and our belief system. I insist on it. I cannot let them devour, devour these platforms and use them for horrible things. It's the same with video podcasting. We're really some of the most horrible people in the country making enormous amounts of money because they figured out that by being Jew haters or Persian haters or Christian haters or race baiters or bigots or whatever they are, they have figured out that they can make a lot of money. That just shows you how sick some of the cultures around the world are and how sick some elements in our own culture are. We have to push against it. Liberty's Voice on rumble and YouTube. We're counting on you and many more. We'll be right back. It's time for a little spring cleaning. And I know where to start. Go drag your old dated wireless contract out of the closet and beat it with a broom. Then freshen things up by switching to PureTalk, my wireless company that gives you unlimited talk, text and plenty of data. Just 25 bucks a month with no contract, no cancellation fees, and no overseas customer service. If you ever need help, I'm guessing you're going to like them as much as my listener Paul from Greer, South Carolina. He says, I finally listened to Mark Levin's advice and switched from Verizon. I'm getting the very same service for less than half of what I was paying Verizon. You know, I long wondered if these much lower services could provide the same level of service as the big boys. Now I know that Pure Talk certainly can. Thank you, Paul. Now it's time for you folks to make the switch, too. 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887-738-13811. All right, everybody, I want to make you the smartest people around a constitutionalist. So when you watch these buffoons, these clowns, these morons who we call members of Congress or their media mouthpieces tell you about the declaration of war provision in Article 1, you'll know the facts. Now, I've tried this many times and so I've posted this. I tried it this way. Now, ready? Our framers of the Constitution were so brilliant and prescient. What you see right now occurring in Congress is precisely why the delegates at the Constitutional Convention did not confer war powers on Congress. I repeat, did not confer war powers on Congress. In fact, the delegates specifically changed the original draft of the Constitution from Congress having the power to make war to the power to declare war. That is, Congress was granted the authority to declare its support for war, not declare war as a condition of making war or going to war. Let me repeat that Congress was granted the authority to declare its support for war, not declare war as a condition of making war or going to war, which belongs to the President. And it is precisely why declarations of war have never been determinative whether war is made or not since the beginning of the Republic. Let me repeat that. It is precisely why declarations of war have never been determinative in whether war is made or not since the beginning of the Republic, there have been 11 declarations, most of them during World War II, the last one in 1942. Next point. It is also why Congress cannot force the commander in chief, the President, to go to war by the act of declaring war. Again, Congress cannot force the commander in chief to go to war by the act of declaring war. Now, I've made these points before, but I wanted to make them as clearly and succinctly as I can. In other words, let's say Congress votes we declare war against Bolivia. You know what the President could say, well, you know what? Go to hell. I'm not getting involved in that. It's meaningless. In other words. So the arguments you're hearing by the Democrats, the arguments you're hearing by some phony constitutionalists and professors, the arguments you're hearing by the partisans who are trying to sabotage our military operation, who are trying to sabotage our righteous campaign to destroy the Islamo Nazi regime and all other nukes in Iran, is bullcrap. There are liars and some of them know it. Some of them are too stupid and they just go along. When I heard Schumer say today, you can't get to war without authorization from Congress. Of course you can. If Congress wants to use the power of the purse under Article 1 to stop it, they can try. But what about the War Powers act of 1973? Tell me, this is a smart audience after all these years. Does a statute change the Constitution? An amendment changes the Constitution. They can't get an amendment to the constitution. So in 1973, the Democrats pushed through the War Powers act. And it's got some triggers in there and so forth, but it's utterly unconstitutional. You want to change the relationship between Article 1 and Article 2, then you amend the Constitution. You don't pass some phony ass law. But even there, the President has complied with it within 48 hours to give notice to what they call the Gang of Eight. They did it. And they've been giving notice and notice now to the entire Congress. Can you imagine if the framers believed that the President cannot act without Congress's affirmative approval, all 535 of them. You're going to have a public debate. You're going to be able to keep secrets and protect our armed forces. You're going to be able to take advantage of secrecy to attack the enemy. Their framers were smart. They had just fought a revolutionary war. They knew that was stupid, so of course they didn't do it. We have Operation Epic Fury, but the Democrats have Operation Sabotage going on. They are involved in Operation sabotage, while we have men and women in uniform in a war theater, while they were doing God's work, while they protecting us, liberating the Persians, working side by side with the Israelis. And now by the way, half the Arab world to take a cancer, a metastasizing cancer. You heard Steve witkoff in our one. What his revelations I thought were stunning, didn't you, Mr. Producer? Absolutely stunning. And we're going to have that recording and we're going to put it out online very soon. I'll put it up during the break, then it's up on Twitter and everywhere right now, I'm told. But we'll push it out to other sources and we'll see if they even use it. Those that lean Democrat, those who are of the left, that is most of the media won't want it because it, it undermines their narrative, you know, legal war, what was the immediacy, blah, blah, blah. You know, we even had Hakeem Jeffries say these people died, these, these heroes in a losing war. He already declared that our war is lost. Did you hear that, Mr. Producer? This guy is disgusting, this Hakeem Jeffries. He is a disgusting fraud and phony. My interview with Steve Witkoff is on all our social sites. It's on Twitter and True social and wherever we are, everywhere. It's on rumble, it's on YouTube. And I strongly encourage you to share that with as many people as you can because it lays out the case for the 4,000th time, but with massively new revelations about why we had to go to war with Iran, that there was nothing left to negotiate, that they were deceiving us. And in the course of deceiving us, Witkoff and Kushner, they learned that they, they were close, close to bomb grade material within a week or 10 days, right in front of them. And the enemy bragged about it and more than that, that the so called civilian use had surpassed the 3.67% to 20%. And they were stockpiling that. And the only reason you stockpile that is to get it to 60 and then 90%, which they could have done in four to six weeks. And the revelation that really was remarkable to me is when Steve Witkoff told us so they would have had upwards of 25 to 30 nuclear bombs in the course of a few months, despite us hitting their main industrial centers. They had other things going on that they had stockpiled on silver. You have to understand, people are finally looking at a map. Iran is bigger than Alaska. It is a Huge country. There's a lot of places to hide things. And some of it, some of it will escape scrutiny. Very important. I'll be right back. It's time for a little spring cleaning. And I know where to start. Go drag your old dated wireless contract out of the closet and beat it with a broom. Then freshen things up by switching to PureTalk, my wireless company that gives you unlimited talk, text and plenty of data. Just 25 bucks a month with no contract, no cancellation fees, and no overseas customer service. If you ever need help, I'm guessing you're going to like them as much as my listener, Paul from Greer, South Carolina. He says, I finally listened to Mark Levin's advice and switched from Verizon. I'm getting the very same service for less than half of what I was paying Verizon. You know, I long wondered if these much lower services could provide the same level of service as the big boys. Now I know that Pure Talk certainly can. Thank you, Paul. Now it's time for you folks to make the switch, too. Go to PureTalk.com Levin PureTalk.com Levin and you'll save 50% off your first month. That's PureTalk.com Levin and switch to a wireless company that shares your values. Pure Talk, America's wireless company. Ladies and gentlemen, one person is being prosecuted for attempting to assassinate Donald Trump. Another person escaped, but they are in Iran. We hopefully will get him for trying to assassinate Donald Trump, too. And the Department of Justice has laid out the case, Iran's involvement and so forth. I don't normally play Tucker Carlson's podcast, but you need to hear how low this man has sunk and you need to hear who he blames. At this point, if you're still a fan of his and following him, you're going to follow him right off the edge of the cliff. This is a very, very sick person. Cut to go. Let's start with the purported assassination attempts on Donald Trump. Now, why are those significant? Because yesterday the President of the United States said, I did this. And by this, I mean killed the head of state of Iran, the Ayatollah Khamenei. He tried to kill me twice, but I got him first. It's almost a verbatim quote from the President who, who thinks that he's been told that. Get it? What do we know about that? Where did that intelligence come from that proved that the government of Iran, run by the Ayatollah, this religious leader,

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All right? And yet they only played a small part of the clip. Over at National Review, Philip Klein, one of the few remaining honest writers and reporters, he explained that in the piece that he wrote. But over at the Federalists, they misled people and other publications, some of which are supposedly conservative, but definitely the left media as well, they keep twisting this, twisting this, as did Kitarlson, as did Meager Kelly, as did everybody else who want you to believe that the reason the President, United States has taken this action is because of the Jewish conspiracy. And I'm so damn sick of this. We have men and women in harm's way fighting a war, a righteous war, a noble war to protect us, we red blooded Americans. And these isolationists, these neo Nazis, these Marxists and the Islamists. They want you to turn on the President and turn on our armed forces. Ain't gonna happen. He's here. He's here now. Broadcasting them from the underground command post deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker somewhere under the brick and steel of a nondescript building, we've once again made contact with, with our leader, Mark Levin. Hello, America. Mark Levin here. Our number, 877-381-3811, 881-3811 O. Centcom, that's us. Just called the United States Air Force and the Israeli Air Force, the USAF and the iaf, the two most powerful air forces in the world. And in the cases where you're talking about a nation of 9 or 10 million people, but they take those jets that they purchase from us and they up the technology on them significantly, and then they give them back to us billions of dollars worth of research and technological advances because they need the jets to go further and they need the jets to carry heavier payloads because they don't have as many. And when they develop that, they give it to us. I know what the President said, but I know for a fact, because I was in the Reagan administration, that we were talking about the Strategic Defense Initiative. And the left and the media mocked Reagan about Star wars, as they always do. Our good guys, you know, and the Democrats in Congress repeatedly slash funding, slashed funding. But the Israelis came to us, we signed a memorandum understanding they wanted to use the basic platform idea, and they developed their own technology, which is now Iron Dome. And they have two other layers as well. All of that technology has been shared with us. The Israelis are far ahead. If you've listened to this program, you know, laser technology to weaponize it, and they. They put it in the field. It's still at a very nascent stage, but it was working, was knocking drones out of the sky. So that's going to be a big deal. And they're sharing that technology with us as well. So, yes, we do get something out of that investment. Every president has known that, every Pentagon chief has known that. But I think the relationship today between Trump and Netanyahu, we've never seen anything like this before. Never. And those two air forces, as CENTCOM said, the two most powerful air forces on the face of the earth, they are coordinating with each other. They're sharing data with each other. They're deciding on missions with each other. Who is better positioned to do X, Y and Z? It's a coordination like we've never seen before. Technology like we've never seen before. People say we don't want boots on the ground. Well, we don't if we can avoid it. I hear the isolationists try to use that as an excuse. They're all over tv. Bunch of numskulls, really. We know we don't want troops on the ground, if that's possible. But what makes it possible not to have troops on the ground is this massive technological advantage that we create and the Israelis create. The type of missile technology, defensive and offensive, the kind of data that these missiles retain and can have and the communication systems. It's absolutely unbelievable. Unbelievable. And the Israelis, I've been reading it in the paper, are now building military alliances and selling some advanced weaponry, not all of it, for sure, with the Indian government. India has the greatest population in the world, the biggest. And can you imagine the Germans? We know what happened in Germany. The Germans are buying defensive missile technology from the Israelis and on and on and on. And we work with the Israelis, they work with us, and they give us whatever technological advances or improvements they make on our own equipment. It is a wonderful relationship. So the people who try to come between us and them or Netanyahu and Trump are diabolical. They're anti American. We share the same Judeo Christian belief system, the same belief in a democratic government, the same belief in life over death. This thing about Israel drawing us into the war, the twisting of Rubio's words where he sets it straight, the president sets it straight, everybody, they don't want it set straight because they're liars. That's why they have an agenda. Here's Netanyahu on Fox News with Hannity last night. Cut five, go. There are people that say, well, the

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Well, you're right. I mean, that's ridiculous. Donald Trump is the strongest leader in the world. He does what he thinks is right for America. He does also what he thinks is right for future generations. And frankly, we're partners in that effort because I've devoted my life to securing the life of the one and only Jewish state. And believe me, it's been a struggle. I've known the pangs of war. I lost a brother in war and in battle. I myself fought terrorists and was wounded in liberating hostages from a hijacked plane. I held a fellow soldier in my arms when I was 18 and he died in my arms. I know the cost of war, but I know sometimes that war is necessary to protect us from the people who would destroy us. And that's what free society have to understand. Freedom is precious. But it has to be protected. And we have to understand that we're fighting here, we're fighting here. The bad guys, we're the good guys. These people massacred their own people. Imagine what they would do, these people who chant death to America if they had the ballistic missiles and the nuclear warheads to deliver to every American citizen. You know, that was a point I made and I noticed that everybody's making that now. And I think that's very important to understand. And my point was a week ago, if you're going to kill 50,000 of your own people in the blink of an eye, you can understand that they'd kill a million of their own people and they certainly wouldn't hesitate to shoot nuclear missiles into our country. So Senator Mark Warner, you notice the sort of the coalescing of the left and the Democrats with the woke Reich neo fascists. But they have to lie because they're wrong. We're right and they're wrong. So Mark Warner is really a feckless, incompetent, moronic senator. He bought himself a governorship, then he bought himself a Senate seat. And so he's interviewed on CNN yesterday and continues with this stuff that the Jews dragged us into this, that Israel dragged us into this, that Netanyahu dragged us into this. Cut six, go.

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But do I want. No, you're not a hole. You're not even a strong supporter of your own country, the United States of America. We know what you are and we know who you are. You're a phony and a fraud. Go ahead. Making the decision of when and where. So see this? Look at the drama. Another government tells us when and where to go to war. No, they didn't. Trump would never do that. I don't have any president who would do that. I don't know that Netanyahu would ask any president to do that. This is so outrageous. And so the president has said, and I played it earlier actually, we kind of pulled the Israelis into moving when we wanted to move. So the opposite is true. But the truth never catches up with these bald faced serial liars. It just doesn't happen. Now you got Jeff Merkley, Democrat, Oregon. All the Democrats have their propaganda down. They want us to lose this war because they think it will give them political advantage. They think it'll give them the midterms of the 2028 presidency. They want us to lose. They absolutely do. They're trying to throw legal impediments. Look at this propaganda. The enemy could be using this propaganda. Perhaps they are at this point. They're using Tucker Carlson's podcast on state run Iranian media. We've reached a point in our country that we literally have a political party that hates the country, wants power at any cost, and that power means the Republicans have to lose, Donald Trump has to lose and we have to lose a war. Go ahead. Let's do cut seven. That is a profoundly disturbing explanation. First, Netanyahu came and asked for American support for, by the way, this is CNN pushing this all day. Netanyahu. They hate Netanyahu, but they hate Zionism and they hate Jews. They just don't really come out and say it. You see, they'll get to that point, they'll get to the Tucker Carlson point, they'll get to the Candace Owens point, they'll get to the Megyn Kelly point, they'll get to the Bannon point. They're just way ahead of the bigots and the anti Semites, you see. Go ahead. Indicating that they wouldn't be acting unless America supported it. So that Just violates what Rubio just said, that this guy's a word salad. He's a useless moron, but he's a left wing Democrat and that's all you have to be to get elected in Oregon these days. That's it. Portland is the tail that wags the dog. And Portland is a disaster Democrat city run by a bunch of clowns. I feel bad for the people who don't vote for these clowns and are stuck in jobs and maybe homes that they have or they like they like there because there's generations of them. But it's just like New York. He got Mondami, half the city didn't vote for him. But they have to deal with his crap. They have to deal with it. And it goes on and on and on. The Democrats trying to create confusion. What's the mission? The hell's the mission? To take out the enemy. That's the mission. You damn bastards. What do you think it is? What's the mission? Violation of the law. Netanyahu got us in. They just keep throwing it against the wall. They never say, we want to wish our armed forces the best. We want to celebrate them. They're doing a fantastic job. Absolutely incredible. We're defeating this maniacal enemy that's been trying to kill us, has killed many Americans, civilians and military that wants to get nuclear weapons and blows off the face of the earth. We have the greatest military on the face of the earth working with a tremendous ally. You never hear them say anything like this. Never. Even most of the Arab states are with us now. Qatar, which of course has caused Great Depression with Tucker Carlson and his nimrod brother. Buckley. Buckley. They shouldn't call him Buckley. It should be Gore Vidal. Gore Vidal Carlson. Yes. Yes, indeed. I'll be right back. Mud Lovin. Don't forget Liberty's voice at rumble. And a YouTube. It's a big one. You're gonna like it. You might get into a routine. It's only three days a week, 40 to 45 minutes, three days a week. Liberty's voice, rumble, YouTube. Our interview with Steve Witkoff, which is really a newsbreaker in so many respects, is all on our social media. You can go over to Twitter, or X as we call it, it's posted there, and Truth Social and so forth and so on. So if you haven't heard it, you're really going to want to listen to it and you're definitely going to want to share it because it makes it clear why we had to go to war with these people. There's no question about it. All right. I try to make this radio show all three hours. My new video podcast, 40, 45 minutes Life, Liberty and Levin, two hours a week, one hour Saturday, one hour Sunday, as meaningful and substantive and knowledgeable, interesting, entertaining as possible. I don't come in here and paint by the numbers like too many do. I enjoy this format. I take it very seriously and I'm very, very blessed you're here. We've got a full half hour left. Even though this show is flying, you might want to check out that Steve Witkoff recording and spread it around to your friends and family. We'll be right back. Liberty's Voice, Mark Leven, talk with that voice now, 877-381-3811. You know, America, I posted a criticism of one of the Liberal party leaders in Israel's name is la, and it's because he put out a video about two days or so ago and he was prime minister for about 14 minutes along with Bennett, who was prime minister for about 12 minutes after him. They put together sort of an odd coalition, included Arab parties. This guy Bennett is a real, you know, he's being pushed by some people to replace Netanyahu, but he's, he's really, in my view, very much a chameleon because he tells conservatives that he would not join a coalition with the Arab parties. The Arab parties are very hostile to Israel, as you can imagine. But then he went ahead and did it, and now he's trying to put together a center right coalition to go after Netanyahu. And so this guy Lapid is head of one of the liberal parties, but they're relatively small, but together they can make a lot of noise and they have a coalition. So they put out this video praising, as they should, President Trump and us for this fantastic, spectacular war effort. But he leaves out his own Prime Minister, Mr. Producer, how do you do that? Because they want to defeat him. Now. He put out a video and shook the prime minister's hand some weeks ago at the outbreak of this. And so we're all united, you know, we're all Israelis and so forth and so on. But why would you do that? Well, he shouldn't have. So he wrote actually a very polite response to me. But then there's a guy by the name of I think his name is Yitzhak Katz. Yitzhak Katz. Yitz. Now, I don't know this guy from a hole in the ground, but apparently he's one of Bennett's boys, wrote a very nasty post. So I dismissed him. What I'm gonna get engaged with every one of these nasty sort of left of center, or he would argue he's center or right of center, but they can argue whatever they want. One of these nasty guys who hates Netanyahu and starts attacking Netanyahu, well, what about October 7th? What is this guy, an idiot, A moron? So I just dismissed him. Why engage that lapid, to my surprise, was actually fairly classy. This guy Katz was the opposite of classy. But lapid is a lefty. And God forbid if he had been the prime minister during all of this, you know, bowing to Biden's demands and all the rest of it. Now what they have now with our country, their prime minister and our president is once in generations. Once in generations. It's absolutely the case. Thought you might find that interesting. All right, let's take a couple of calls. Let's go to John Dallas, Texas, the great wbap. John, how are you? Doing well.

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This is the thing that gets me. They say, why now? No, the question is, why not now? Now, if you heard Steve Wyckoff and you can play it for your friends now. We've downloaded it. It's on all my social sites. You can link to it. I don't make anything out of it. I just want people to listen to the facts. He said, look, these guys had all this weapons grade uranium, this fissile material at 60% that they had stored away, you know, away from these nuclear sites. They admitted it, and they had an enormous amount of it. And they're bragging there at the table. On the first negotiation, there were three meetings telling them, we have enough to make 11 bombs, enough right now to make 11 bombs. And it is our right, our unalienable right to be able to do it and to be able to keep these materials. And that's just one of the revelations Witkoff gave us. He gave us many revelations beyond what he discussed last night. Because we had more time here, 45 minutes. I would encourage people to listen to this again. It's on my Twitter account. It's on Truth Social. It's everywhere. And I want to encourage you to take the time and listen to this, because these are the facts. And now nobody can say, Democrats or media, that they haven't heard the facts, because these are the first time, not all, but most of these revelations have been made. He wanted to come on, he wanted to talk to me. He wanted to talk to this audience about these things. And of course, I was more than happy. But he lays it out. Donald Trump really did want a deal. He wanted a deal, but there was nothing to deal because they kept slamming the door. They wouldn't put it down in writing so they could take the information back to the Pentagon or the CIA or even the President of the United States. They were supposed to give a written offer. The second meeting, they didn't even give it. The third meeting, they gave him some paragraphs for them to look at and then took it back. It was utterly unserious. He could see they had no power. He and Jared Kushner, they briefed the President of the United States, and the President of the United States decided, okay, well, we got to do what we got to do. And he's coming under attack for this. For protecting the American people. For protecting the American people. He's coming under attack. It is so outrageous what these Democrats have become. And I just want People to take note of this. It's outrageous what these Democrats are doing and what these Democrats have become, Period. All right, brother, I want to thank you. I want to thank you for your call. We'll be right back. Mud. Levin. I want you to listen to Thom Tillis today. I guess he thinks he's a tough time, a tough guy screaming at Kristi Noem. It made me sick to my stomach. Now, I've known a lot of people who were secretaries of DHS. There's nobody who's been better than her. Nobody. Cut 23. Go. Why am I disappointed with Secretary Noem? Because we're not going after enough people who did this damage at the expense of running numbers that Stephen Miller wants out of the White House. We just want numbers. We want a thousand a day, 6,000 a day, 9,000 a day. Because numbers matter, right? No, they don't matter. Quality matters. Not quantity. Quality. And what we've seen is a disaster under your leadership, Ms. Noem. A disaster. What we've seen is innocent people getting detained that turn out are American citizens. I could talk about the culture that's been created here with. With Stephen Miller aiding and abetting. I heard first reports that he was the one that said it was a domestic terrorist situation where two people lost their lives in Minneapolis. I've heard that report. Maybe you can refute it. I don't know that we'll have time for you to. Shut up, you idiot. Shut up, you moron. You lame duck schmuck. No wonder the North Carolinas don't want you anymore. You're a loser. But then I was surprised by John Kennedy. Usually thoughtful and wise and funny. He was awful today, spinning a corruption scenario, going after Kristi Noem. You know, none of these large asses could do that job. Not one of them could do that damn job. Listen to this. Cut 27. Go.