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Mark Levin
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Callers and Producer
He's here now. Broadcasting from the underground command post deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker somewhere under the brick and steel of a nondescript building, We've once again made contact with our leader, Mark Lev.
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Mark Levin
Hello America. Mark Levin here. Our number, 877-381-3811, 877-3813, 811. I don't know why, Mr. Producer, I'm in a great mood. I don't know why you ever get that way rich. Sometimes you're in a down mood, you're not sure why. Sometimes you're anxious, you're not sure. I'm in a great mood and yet I'm very concerned. And I'll tell you what I'm concerned about, America. I feel like we don't know what victory is anymore. Absolute victory. You were a thousand reasons for why we can't achieve a victory, whatever the conflict is. A thousand reasons. And yet there was a time when you went to war, you had a battle. Victory was the objective. I don't mean a soft victory. I mean a real victory. And so there's a link to Axios, which is a left wing website and a guy by the name Barack Ravid, who is a radical left winger. He used to write for Haaretz, which is as close to a communist media outlet as exists in the state of Israel. He's another self hating Jew in my humble opinion. And somebody keeps leaking to him about our diplomacy, about our decisions, about what the I don't know. President's done interviews with him too. His advisors are advising him poorly. Shouldn't interview with that nut job. Nonetheless, there it was, an Axios. And it was picked up by other media outlets, of course. And what is it? Well, here's an example of what it is. It's a purported deal, initial deal, the Islamo Nazi regime in Tehran. In Tehran Now, I only go by what's reported. It's reported everywhere. If they're wrong, then somebody needs to come out and correct it, in my humble opinion. And what they're saying is, well, I'll quote it to you. I posted this several hours ago when it came out. I don't blame the president for taking a few days to think about this. That is the initial deal with the Iranian regime his negotiators brought to him. I understand why the Iranian regime agreed to this. According to the report's, quote, in return for the commitments to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and for square nuclear weapons development, the US Would release frozen Iranian funds and open discussions about sanctions relief, as well as enter discussions on mechanisms to permit Iran to receive humanitarian aid and other needed goods, quote, unquote. That's from a senior official anonymously leaking the Axios as well as other reports and news platforms picking it up and regurgitating it. So frozen funds, according to this, are immediately released. That's billions and billions of dollars. Sanctions relief are on the horizon, as is, quote, unquote, humanitarian aid to a regime that slaughters its own people. That's a huge infusion of billions of dollars into Iran in addition to the regime returning to shipping oil, all of which will fund the IRGC and the rest of the police state. And you can be sure that's where most of the money will go. And no word about ballistic missiles, which is absolutely crucial. The Iranian regime wanted to complete the production of 8 to 10,000 ballistic missiles, which could overwhelm, overwhelm Israel, overwhelm the Arab states, overwhelm us. We simply do not have the kind of weaponry needed to knock all that out of the sky. And these ballistic missiles can destroy an entire city block. Now, that's a huge infusion, billions into Iran in addition to the regime returning to shipping oil, all of which will fund the rgc. As I said again, nothing about ballistic missiles, nothing about the brutality against the people which started this. Not a word. There needs to be a lot more details to understand exactly what has been negotiated here to warrant a massive infusion of funds back into the regime in exchange for talking another 60 days. They won't pursue nukes in the meantime. I thought we were going to hit them militarily if they did. And they'll reopen the Strait. So the regime closing it was leveraged by them to get us to negotiate with them. We're removing economic and military pressure with only the threat that either or both could resume. Why not force concessions before Lifting economic pressure. If they wouldn't agree to that, then how serious is the regime about making substantive and lasting concessions at all? The article says the president's taking a few days to think about it. I don't blame him. If this report is accurate, he should. And what about enforcement? Given the nature and history of this terror regime, whatever the final terms may be, it'll be impossible certainly after Trump leaves the presidency. I've been saying that now for weeks. I notice other writers and so forth have been plagiarizing. But that's okay. This is important enough. I like them to plagiarize. Yes, I do. Over at the Gatestone Institute, one of my favorites of all, Khalid Abu Tamer, a man of Arab descent, says there can be no good deal with the jihadist regime that openly sponsors terrorism across the Middle east, brutalizes its own people, cause for the destruction of Israel, and continues to chant death to America. Tehran sees diplomacy as a tactical weapon, a means to buy time, get intrusive foreign governments off their back, weaken international opposition, divide Western allies and secure economic relief, all while continuing its long term strategy objectives as fast as the circumstances after President Trump's term in office will allow. I'm very curious what you think. So we're going to open the phones again. Again. I don't do it often, although in the last few weeks I have. I'm opening the phones again. I want to know what you folks think about this. 877-381-3811. Even if any new agreement does not contain sunset clauses allowing the Iranian regime eventually to resume advanced uranium enrichment activities legally. If the restrictions expire, the Iranian regime will view any deal as a green light quietly to continue rebuilding its nuclear weapon program. Such provisions do not eliminate the nuclear threat. They postpone them. Already, Iran has reportedly restarted much of its ballistic missile production that could restore significant portions of its offensive drone capabilities within months. Folks, you need to understand this ballistic threat. It's their most powerful conventional weapon, and if they unleash a thousand, two thousand, five thousand at a time, it will destroy any country in the Middle East. Significantly, the response from the Arab and Muslim world to Trump's latest demand to join the Abraham Accords has been largely unenthusiastic. Shows you what they are and where they stand. Saudi Arabia and Qatar have shown no public eagerness to comply. Pakistan flatly rejected the idea. Of course, this silence and rejection underscore a larger reality, meaning meaningful peace and agreements cannot be manufactured for public relations purposes or used to obscure strategic failures elsewhere. Whereas many of the Supposedly neutral Middle Eastern countries facilitating the deal, quote, unquote, Pakistan, Turkey, which is a disaster. Saudi Arabia and Qatar have well worn records of not being even slightly neutral. Not even slightly neutral. We know that expanding peace agreements between Israel and Arab and Muslim countries is unquestionably a positive good. Peace and normalization are in the interests of Arabs and Muslims, no less than Israelis. The Arab Accords demonstrated that cooperation with Israel promotes regional stability, security, economic growth, technological advancement. Genuine peace, however, may not be able to be imposed through pressure or threats. Peace made at a gunpoint rarely lasts. And he goes on very concerned about what he's reading and hearing. Yeah, then we have one of my favorite editorial sites. Issues and insights. Issues and insights, Mr. President, they write, give the Iranian regime nothing. President Trump is considering handing over billions to the terrorists of Tehran and leaving them in control of the Strait of Hormuz. As some news dispatches have indicated, he will have committed a blunder. The only choice they should be offered is to give up everything or lose it all to the almighty forces of the United States and Israeli militaries. If not, the Iranian threat will never be eliminated, only weakened for a time before returning to its demonic affairs, leaving a mess for someone else to clean up. Because Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu have the courage to do what should have been done more than 45 years ago, the regime is staggering and no lifeline should be tossed its way. This is my view. No lifeline and no deal is going to be enforceable. And their ideology does not allow them. It does not even allow them to comply with any kind of a deal. A deal is just sort of a temporary obstacle which they will clearly overcome when the time comes. President has no choice, they write, but to take a hard line as if the regime were the Nazis in 1945. The Allies then required Germany to surrender unconditionally the entirety of its forces on land, sea and the air, who at this date were under German control. Anything less would empower the depraved remnant in Tehran to start the cycle again. Then the trials must begin. I really like this. Just as the Nazis were held accountable for their crimes, the remaining so called leaders of the regime must be brought to justice for the terrorism they've wrought abroad and the offenses, including tens of thousands of murders they've committed at home. The best than any could hope for should be house arrest for life in a country far from the Middle east, which they should prefer over the obliteration they should be told they will receive if they don't submit. We're dealing with tyrants, butchers of humans who claim to absolutely power justifies their evil acts. Extending mercy endangers hundreds of millions. I like this. I think it's important. All right, see if anybody cares. If anybody's interested, I've got a little bit more on this when we come back, but we'll be taking your calls as well. We'll be right back. In 2025, global gold demand blew past 5,000 tons and hit a record $555 billion in value. Many central banks are quietly diversifying away from the dollar, adding hundreds of tons to their reserves. Large institutions poured in, the second biggest inflow on record. And barring coin demand hit a 12 year high. Meanwhile, mine supply grew just 1%. New gold can't be printed. 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Sometimes you got to give these things up, you know, this isn't the Bridge over the River Kwai. And I'm deeply worried about it because the regime can be left stronger as it reconstitutes itself. It could wind up being stronger. Mark Thiessen has a good piece in the Washington Post as well. And basically what he's saying is, look, we've come this far, we've done so much damage to them, they're on their back. We need to finish this off. And then you recommend some of the things I've recommended. Go ahead and arm the people. Arm the people. He says Trump would be better off destroying Iran's remaining military capabilities, opening the Strait of Hormuz by force, keeping the US blockade in place to strangle the remnants of the regime economically, and then directing the CIA to launch a covert operational army and train the Iranian opposition so it can liberate its country, which I've said a thousand times, and I agree with that. I think he's right on there. So our negotiators must understand what happens if this isn't locked down tight. Even more, they need to be straightforward, that a deal may be the worst way to attempt to end the war if the regime survives. I'm writing this to post as I talk to you, And sneezing to boot. If the regime survives, it will become even stronger. It will certainly over time and the threat to the Middle east will be almost insurmountable. I can just think if they had 10,000 ballistic missiles as an example. You know, this can end in a way that really brings prosperity and peace to the region. The president of the United States is seen as one of the greatest leaders, not just of the United States, but of the world for all time. Or it could be a debacle. We'll be right back. The big gold story right now, folks, is who's buying gold and how fast they're draining the market. 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Callers and Producer
Mark Levin, radio's hell raising intellectual. Call now, 877-381-3811.
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Mark Levin
Well, people are anxious to get in on this. I'm going to take you right from beginning first into the second. It is right from top to bottom. So let's go to Jerry Jersey Shore, Pennsylvania on the Mark Levin app. How are you?
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Callers and Producer
Oh, not too bad.
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Mark Levin
Go right ahead.
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Callers and Producer
Yeah, I wanted to step in here because there's two important points that are being missed. First is Islam. Islam, the religion does not allow for making deals. That is considered a sin. It's a violation of Islamic law
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Mark Levin
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Callers and Producer
it's extremely important because it does allow one thing, and we've heard this recently, a 10 to 15 year break in hostilities, which obviously that means they can restock, rearm, move forward and then at the end of the 10 or 15 year period, the war is back on again. And that's exactly what's going on.
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Mark Levin
Yeah, that gets us nowhere. Obama did that. That's an absolute loser. As for nobody ever talking about this, I think I've Talked about it 500 times on the radio. The whole ideology behind the Islamo Nazi regime, Takiya and the. And that they exist for the purpose of advancing their revolution. Their ideology slash politics. So we've talked about it at great length here, as a matter of fact.
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Did you here. I'm sorry, I don't remember where he was at, but Trump was just asked about some of this and he said, well, we've killed the number ones and number twos and the guard is no longer an issue. And. And he was. I'm sorry, I apologize.
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Mark Levin
You can kill the number ones and the number twos. The problem is, as you're pointing out, this is an ideology. It is a 7th century ideology where Allah demands and commands the destruction of all non believers. And all non believers need to be destroyed, eliminated. And it's the only way the 12th Imam will appear who's hiding among us. And when he appears, there'll be peace and prosperity throughout the world. And so you're exactly right about that, which is, yes, we took out the first tier and the second tier, but we know damn well we haven't taken out the whole thing because we're negotiating with them. Right.
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Callers and Producer
And my understanding, and I could be wrong about this, is that the one we're negotiating with is actually as bad as Saliman.
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Mark Levin
I don't know if they're bad or as bad as they all are horrendous animals. And I will just tell you, people keep talking about the more moderate versus the more aggressive. There is no moderate. And that's exactly what Obama tried with his guy, Ben Rhodes. They were talking about the moderate president back then. There are no moderates or they don't exist. They eliminate them. They are all revolutionaries. And people need to understand their revolution is external. They're a police state within Iran. They don't exist. Justice exist as a nation state. This is a revolution ordered by Allah. This is how they believe. And so there is no turning back. If a deal is to be made, it's to be made as a way of advancing the cause. In other words, Takia Tells you you can lie, you can cheat, you can. You can deceive, you can do whatever you need to do to advance. To advance the cause. All right, Jerry, thank you for your call. Let's go to Bill in Dallas, Texas, on Sirius XM Satellite. Yes, Bill.
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Good evening, Mark, and thank you for taking my call. First off, you spoke about a lot of this in your book on power. This is a negative power. This is a negative regime. And we need. This regime needs to be destroyed. I know it's a very critical and serious decision to put boots on the ground. But if we have to put boots on the ground to get the dust out of there, then we got to.
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Mark Levin
But why go there when we haven't even armed the people there? I've watched there are millions who are prepared. They are boots on the ground, who are prepared to fight for their own liberty. They say we're gonna lose the argument if we keep. And you're not the first one to say it, so I'm not being critical. Put boots on the ground. Nobody's putting boots on the ground. We don't have the will to do it. We don't have the intention to do it. It's not gonna happen. Okay, so in lieu of that, what do we do? We need to arm the people who are on the ground, who want to be liberated, who've demonstrated they will fight if they're given a chance. So why not arm them like Reagan did in Afghanistan and Nicaragua and Angola and Honduras and other places? This is what I don't understand.
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Callers and Producer
But will those people. How are those people, the people of Iran, how are they going to get the dust?
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Mark Levin
We're talking about the dust. I'm talking about overthrowing the regime,
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Callers and Producer
okay?
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Mark Levin
Overthrow the regime, okay? And we're not even trying. In my humble opinion, we're just not. The one way to make sure that they'll never have a nuclear program is to eliminate the regime. The one way to make sure we get what we're talking about is the enriched uranium is to overthrow the regime. The one way to make sure they're not going to have 8 to 10,000 ballistic missiles to fire at Israel, the Arab countries, even Europe at this point, then eventually us, is to overthrow the regime. It's not going away. I don't know how we're going to keep it in a box. I really don't. I don't know how we're going to manage it, especially if one of the Democrats becomes president. I feel like I'm being very realistic about the circumstances we face. And that are coming in the future, you know.
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Callers and Producer
Yes.
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Mark Levin
All right, Bill. God bless you, brother. Great callers, good people. Brian. Springfield, Missouri. The great ksgf. Go.
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Callers and Producer
Hi, Mark, thank you for taking my call. Being a member of the Missouri National Guard, I am in full support of increasing our presence in the surrounding countries of Iran for the reason being once we take out the regime, it would give us an opportunity to wipe out its proxy groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas once they lose their funding and supplier out.
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Mark Levin
Let me ask you this, let me ask you this. What do you make of the fact that Hezbollah is firing very powerful missiles now into northern Israel? They're depopulating northern Israel. It's a tiny country. And now they're aiming for central Israel. And Netanyahu says, hey, look, we can't let this go on. We can't change the boundaries of our country, which is what Hezbollah is trying to do, at the command of Iran. At the command of Iran, and be told that we have one arm tied behind our back, that we can't do what we need to do about this. So we say, do whatever you need to do. Just don't go into Beirut. And these really say, well, that's where their headquarters is. Ah, don't go into Beirut. I'm getting concerned that Netanyahu, the Israelis would have finished off Hamas, would have finished off Hezbollah, would have finished off the Iranian regime, but we're holding them back. What do you think of that?
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Callers and Producer
I'm in full support of going after their headquarters. In 2020, when we were deployed in Iraq, we tangled Hezbollah and I have very strong personal feelings against them or any flag they wave over them.
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Mark Levin
Mm, I understand. Well, thank you for your service, Brian. God bless you. Let's go to Don Sonoma, California, the great ksfo. How are you?
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Callers and Producer
Good. We didn't negotiate with Hitler. We can't negotiate with these people. I'd want boots on the ground, but I'm thinking more of the bombing and like you said, you know, try to get the citizens to uprise. But, yeah, what a mess.
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Mark Levin
My fear is, you know, it's amazing these woke right isolations. Talk about forever wars. But a forever war is if you don't defeat the enemy. That's the problem. And they will be forever what they are. They're not going to change. They're not going to change their stripes. It's not going to happen. And they're negotiating with us, the very people they call the big Satan, who they want to eliminate from the face of the earth. They're not negotiating with us in goodwill. And at some point after they drag us out for a while and we're fighting over phrases and words and syllables and all the rest, they'll sign something, but they have never, ever adhered to anything they have ever signed. This is a whole strategy with these people. It's a whole strategy with these people. Just a little frustrated in a good mood today, but I'm a little frustrated. All right, Don, thank you for your excellent call so far. So far, 100% callers say we got to end this damn thing and end it the right way or it's not going to get ended. That's what I see. We'll be right back. When you hear about Israel in the news, it's easy to think of headlines, politics or another conflict far away. But for families in Israel and Jews around the world, this is personal anti Semitic attacks in the Holy Land and across the globe, elderly Holocaust survivors who endured so much again fearing for their lives. And in moments like these, your voice matters because your voice can remind them they're not alone. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is inviting you to leave a personal prayer or message of encouragement that will be delivered directly to someone in Israel who needs hope right now, right in the Holy Land, not filtered through the media, not lost online. Personally delivered, a simple prayer, a few heartfelt words. They can lift the spirit of someone facing fear, uncertainty and isolation. This is more than support. This is standing with Israel and the international fellowship of Christians and Jews when it matters most. Please go to levin for the fellowship.org to submit your prayer today. That's Levin for the fellowship.org please check it out. Let's go to Mike Bozeman, Montana, the great Kubl. How are you, Mike?
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Callers and Producer
On Fine, Mark. Greetings from a former Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, resident. The thing I. You did not.
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Mark Levin
That's my home county, but it's gone to hell.
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Callers and Producer
Yeah, I know it. I was in Lower Marion Township. The thing I wanted to mention is how come in these negotiations or in this deal, and I'm for no deal, where's the restriction on Iran, not to fund Hezbollah, Hamas or any other terrorist organizations. And Mark, where are their Arab neighbors? They're getting hit also. You don't hear a peep out of that.
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Mark Levin
Well, most of them apparently are selling out. They want to try and make deals with Iran. And I think they're doing that because they see we're trying to make a deal and then they're going to be left there. And they're concerned that after the Trump administration is over, they'll reconstitute themselves. And then they got to deal with that. Of course, that's my concern, too, that they will reconstitute themselves. I don't care how many satellites we have in the sky or how many spies we have on the ground or Mossad has on the ground. We're not going to catch many of the things they're doing. It's just not possible. And it's going to be a constant looking for the hidden eggs or the hidden nukes or whatever. It's just when they're on their back, finish them off, for God's sakes. That's Mark's opinion. That's all. I'm just giving you my thoughts.
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Callers and Producer
That's my opinion also, Mark. We just have to finish them and take care of this right now. We cannot delay.
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Mark Levin
And I also worry that the impact on the midterm elections. You see how the Democrats are going to spin it? They're going to call it Obama 2.0, fair or not. They're going to say that we chickened out. They're going to say it wasn't worth going to war. It was a war of choice. You can hear these propagandists already, and then you're on defense, and you got to explain it. And this is what the Iranians are playing. They know that we have regime change every election, Right? It's built into our system. Well, it's not built into their system any more than it's built into Communist China's system or Castro's system or any Marxist Islamist system. So that is a strength internally for the United States, but it is used by our enemies to try and pressure administrations and politicians. You see, Republicans, some are running for the Hill. Find an off ramp. Find an off ramp. What are these, quizzlings? All right, Mike, thanks for your call, brother. Let's see if we can slip in a few more here. Let's go to Ray. Grand Prairie, Texas, the great WBAP. How are you, Ray?
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Callers and Producer
Thank you, Mr. Levin, for taking my call. And I really need to hear your wise words of wisdom again.
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Mark Levin
Yeah.
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Callers and Producer
Several of our warships, missiles, bombers are stationed around the state of Hormuz. Does that mean we're no longer having any military presence and protections around Taiwan? We need their semiconductors, computer chips, electronics, things of a like nature that are made in Taiwan. And if China chooses to take over Taiwan, where we're busy spending their military resources.
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Mark Levin
China's not gonna attack us right now. They don't have the capacity to do it. He's busy blowing out his top generals. That doesn't mean they won't attack Taiwan. In a couple years, I think they're gonna outweigh the Trump presidency, that's my guess. They have a number of problems, be perfectly honest with you. They don't have the generals in place. They don't have the fuel, thanks to us, from Venezuela and from Iran. They've got to have the fuel. But I don't undersell their capabilities. It's just that they're not ready yet. And we ought to be selling Taiwan. The equipment that they've already bought, they've already, you know, ordered. But quietly, about a week or two ago, we, we suspended that for now. And I don't like that either. I'm just saying. All right, my friend, thank you for your call. Hang in there. I could tell you're upset. I get it. Let's go to Chris. Palm Harbor, Florida, Sirius, XM Satellite. How are you?
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Callers and Producer
Fine, sir. I got to tell you something. You were the only idol I have left, truly. I have every one of your books. I never miss your shows, and I'm a Levinite from way back. I just want to make a couple of quick points. You're exactly right. This is what really bothers me. Any deal we make with these people isn't going to be the paper it's written on. And I think the string is out right now. You're correct. I was in Beirut in 1982, and I know it's like I was injured there. And it makes me sick when I hear about a deal with these people. I think we have the force over there to do it. I think we ought to end it right now and crush these people once and for all. Because I have people who. I had friends of mine who were killed over there. And that's what I want to say. I'm sorry. I'm very excited about it. I love Donald Trump. I'm with him forever. And I want him. Us not to make deals, but to finish these people. That's all I have to say.
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Mark Levin
I get it. And that's a lot. That's important. And I'm sorry about the loss. And I want to thank you for whatever you were doing over there. You didn't tell me if you're the military intelligence or. Thank you very much.
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Callers and Producer
Thank you for taking. Thank you for taking my call. I'm going to listen to the rest of the calls.
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Mark Levin
All right, you take care. We're going to continue calls into the next hour because the board is full and there's people all over the country. Who want to participate in this. And I don't blame you. I don't blame me at all. Because this is. This is a pivotal time. This is a crucial time. And one of the things I'm concerned about, as I mentioned earlier in the program, is no talks whatsoever about the ballistic missiles. And when you shoot missiles that have £2,000 of TNT, £2,000 each missile the size of a big yellow school bus, each missile, and you're going to build inventory of 8 to 10,000 of them. And that's not on the table. That's crazy. This segment of the podcast is exclusively sponsored by Pure Talk. PureTalk offers great coverage and can save your family money on your wireless bill every single month. Go to PureTalk.com to find the plan that's right for you. Thank you again for listening, and thank you so much for this sponsorship. Pure Talk. He's here.
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Callers and Producer
He's here now. Broadcasting from the underground command post deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker somewhere under the brick and steel of a nondescript building, we've once again made contact with our leader, Mark Le Pen.
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Mark Levin
Hello, America. We're taking calls for another 30 minutes or so. So our number, 877-381-3811-187738-13811. Deal or no deal, America? The other thing I'm not seeing is any of the enforcement mechanisms. Rudy Giuliani posted the following. We love Rudy Giuliani. Iran's regime of terror has been vowing debt to America endlessly for 47 years. They've slaughtered Americans and unresponded to acts of war over and over again. The American response was appeasement, encouraging further slaughter. When do we eliminate the regime? When do we eliminate the regime? Apparently never. We're not going to be able to contain them. We're not going to be able to manage them. And if they get 8 to 10,000 ballistic missiles, nothing we say or do is going to force them to do anything. Even if they don't have a nuclear weapon. And if we open the floodgates of money to them, I don't care when we do it. The front end, middle or at the end, that's exactly where that money's going into more police state salaries for the butchers internally and so forth. I don't think we can have that. All right, let's go to some of the callers. Mr. Producer. Let's see here. Sorry, folks, I got to pull it up. All right, let's go to Bardia, our friend there from Dallas, Texas. The Great. Wbap. Go right ahead, please.
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Callers and Producer
Hi, Mark, how are you?
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Mark Levin
I mean, I'm feeling great, but I'm not happy about this.
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Callers and Producer
You're the same. All the Iranians feel the same way, too. We feel like we've been betrayed by Trump by the way he's making a deal and this is going to be affected by the election because a lot of Iranian backing him up. And if we do that, I think he's going to be in big trouble on that part. But that's beside the point. The point is that I don't know why he doesn't talk to the Crown Prince. He's the opposition leader and about seven, eight months ago he started a program. He put one of those logos scanner on the TV and he told the people, especially the military in Iran, to scan it, send their information to him so he can build an army inside the country so by the time comes they can rise up and take care of this government. I mean, who did that? Boots on the ground? The Crown Prince did that?
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Mark Levin
Yeah, well, the Crown Prince is double dealing now. The Crown Prince is telling our administration, end this, make a deal. He's very much opposed to military action. Of course, Qatar is opposed to it because they have a foot in both camps and they are a terrorist regime. Turkey is having a lot of say Erdogan, who's another Islamist mass killer. So all the, the whole Star wars bar scene is out there and you basically have the uae, Israel and that's it. Who are saying now this regime needs to be ended.
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Callers and Producer
Sad, it needs to be ended. Yeah. And one more thing about the courts that you were talking about, there is three group of Kurds in Iran and Iraq and in Turkey, which these three is a different group of Kurds and maybe he gives weapons or whatever it is to the wrong one. Some of them, just like Arafat, they fill up their pocket and then they don't give money or anything.
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Mark Levin
But you know what this tells me, Barty, is this. In the 80s, in the 80s, under our great CIA director back then, Bill Casey, we knew who to give weapons to and who not to. And if there wasn't anybody to give weapons to, we trained certain groups of people. Now we've been putzing around with a ceasefire, so called, for six weeks. A lot could have been accomplished, I think, in that period of time. Quite frankly, I've not heard of anything. That doesn't mean it's not happening. But you've got tens of millions of people there, I don't have to tell you, who want their liberation and all this talk about they need to rise up. They need to rise up. Who's kidding whom around here? They did rise up, and they were slaughtered. They need to be able to defend themselves when they rise up. They need to be able to go on the offensive. They could get air cover from the Israelis. In our air force, we have all kinds of technology, monitoring technology. We can tell them what to hit, when to hit. I don't know that we've done any of that. If we have, it's the biggest secret I've ever seen. All right, all right, Barty, I understand completely. I really do. Thank you very much. Let us go to Michael. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The great wjas. How are you?
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Callers and Producer
Excellent, sir. Thank you for taking my call. I have a question, and that is, I think that sadly. Does anyone realize what happens if one of the guidance systems on one of these nuclear missiles goes wrong? Like, everyone keeps worrying about what happens if it hits Israel, what happens if it hits America? You know, like, they dismiss it out of hand, but the thing is, if something goes wrong and this ends up in Paris or Detroit or China for that matter, we have a serious problem. You know, no matter where a nuke goes and people seem to have forgotten, it's not just America, it's not just Israel. This is a worldwide problem. And I don't understand. Do you think. Do you see what I'm talking about?
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Mark Levin
I see what you're talking about, but here's the problem of what you're saying. If we have a significant part of the population that's not even concerned that it might hit America, they're not going to be concerned if it hits Botswana. Do you understand what I'm saying?
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Callers and Producer
Yes, I do.
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Mark Levin
I don't think people take this seriously, or enough people do. Clearly, this audience does, simply because it's never happened to us or they've never seen it happen at all to anybody. So maybe they saw it on a film about the end of World War II or something like that, but that'll never happen to us. That can't happen to us. They'll never allow it to happen to us. And a lot of these people, young people in particular, they don't even know anything about 9 11. So, yes, it can happen is reserved
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Callers and Producer
for, you know, the day at the movie. The day after is reserved for, you know, Third World countries or something.
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Mark Levin
Mm. No, you're right. All right, brother, thanks for your call. Let's go to Bill Arnold, Arlington, Texas, the great wbap. Go right ahead, please.
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Callers and Producer
Mark, I agree with everything you said about this war, and we should have ended it weeks ago. I'm a longtime Republican Party activist here in Texas. I'm very, very worried about the November election. I am worried that if Trump doesn't get this over with soon so all prices can come back down and inflation can abate, you'll get to September. The polls will ask the voters, are you better off today than you were a year ago? They'll say no, and we will.
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Mark Levin
But all that's true. All of that's absolutely true. But let me give you another scenario. We cut a deal. We call it the greatest deal of all deals. But it's a deal. And the fact is the regime survives. And the Democrats, they're not going to say that's a great deal. What an accomplishment by Donald Trump. They're going to say the opposite. They're going to say the regime's still there, they still have the capacity in the future to make nuclear weapons. They still have thousands of ballistic missiles that this war was. What do they call. Whatever they call it. And so that can hurt us in the midterm elections too.
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Callers and Producer
Well, that's exactly what I'm saying. I completely agree with you. We have to end that regime now and we have to replace it. Yeah. With the people. The people need to be armed, just like you said. And they need to proceed to re establish democracy in Iran.
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Mark Levin
Yeah, it just even a 60 day negotiation. That's two more months, for God's sakes.
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Callers and Producer
Yeah, that's when I heard that I freaked out because I think that this is going to doom us in, in the mid. And look, we've got a serious problem in Texas. We could lose the Senate seat.
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Mark Levin
I so you're right. You're 100% right about that one. Yep. All right, Bill, keep up the good work, brother. We'll be right back.
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Mark Love in.
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Mark Levin
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Callers and Producer
I'm doing fine, Mark. My, my point is we should finish this job, annihilate that regime, and then we negotiate. But we negotiate on our terms, not their terms. Who the hell are they? Our terms. And I also like to bring up the point that I believe President Trump is the greatest. He's been the greatest president of my lifetime. Anyhow, that's my opinion. I'm sort of hoping that he knows what he's doing and he's just given them just a little bit more ropes to hang themselves so he can turn around and say, listen, I did everything. Now we finished the job.
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Mark Levin
Mm. Well, we'll see. Rich. I get it. I'm with you. I really am. Thank you, brother. Let's go to Scott Rockford, Illinois, the great WRO K. Go right ahead, please.
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Callers and Producer
Thank you, Mark, for taking my call today. I'd like to give you what I consider the definition of diplomacy and that speak only what is necessary while stating the truth. And I'm bringing that up because I thank you for taking my call on February 20th when Donald Trump basically stated that he was going to help the people. Well, right now all that we have is Donald Trump is saying, let's get rid of the nuclear dust, let's get rid of this. But there's been no comment of him saying, let's go back and aid the people. And so I'm concerned that in terms of diplomacy is taking over and they're only speaking what they want, you know, what we think that we want to hear or what he thinks that's going through. Obviously, we have an example, you know, JD Told the NATO allies of what they wanted to do because of culture and other items. And Marco Rubio, in terms of diplomacy, decided not to criticize the Pope. So I'm concerned that our president isn't following through with what he said before. In terms of coming to the aid of the people when I mentioned to you on February 20th.
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Mark Levin
All right. All right. Thank you for your call. Let us go to Jake. Montgomery County, Maryland, the Great wmal. Go right ahead, please.
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Callers and Producer
Yes, sir. Mark, I think a very important thing to do based on all this input and everything you've said, is for you to pick up the phone, call the president at the appropriate time soon and let him know. The gist of what you're open was a summary of what your open was. I thought it was beautiful. And all the input that your audience has called in with and let him
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Mark Levin
know, hey, Jake, it's a very fair point. I want you to watch my show Sunday, my opening statement. And you don't know if I've called the president or not. I'm not going to say whether I have or not. It's just not appropriate. But if you've listened to me long enough, you know, I don't just sit around and stare at the wall. Watch the opening statement on Saturday.
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Callers and Producer
All right, can I make one more point?
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Mark Levin
I am polite and I am very supportive, but my principles are my principles and I always state them. Go right ahead.
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Callers and Producer
Thank you. You know how people are sort of equivocating? They're saying, well, in this moa, the missiles are missing or the dust, what are we going to do with the people? It doesn't matter what's missing from the deal. That's people backtracking. There is no deal to be made. There is no such thing as a deal.
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Mark Levin
But if he's going to make a deal, then we at least need to go through the effort to try and make it the best deal we can, knowing full well, as I've said over and over again, they're not going to honor any deal. So as a matter of first point, on your point, first principles, there should be no deal. But if we've lost that argument, then we got to go to the next stage and fight it, Right?
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Callers and Producer
I just think he needs. Listen, your friend that said that he might just be. I forget the term he used, but use the rope, you know, letting them use the caller.
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Mark Levin
You mean rope a dope. Yeah, whatever.
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Callers and Producer
Yeah, that caller, I thought, you know, Trump may, may be there, but I also think that Trump thinks you can deal your way out of everything, and with these people, you can't.
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Mark Levin
All right, I agree. This is a different animal. All right, Jake, thank you for your call. Looking at the time. Yeah, we can keep going. Steve. Woodbridge Township, New Jersey. How are you?
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Callers and Producer
Hey. Hey, Mark. I'M doing fine, Mark. I long believed that Israel has the intel over there better than our CIA because they're over there and they recruit people, Israel does, to get in there. People who look what the truth is,
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Mark Levin
when this is all written about one day, Israel's taken out most of the leadership. It's been the Mossad and their military.
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Callers and Producer
There we go. So we could send them on the ground and we back them up from the air, and it's a done deal. What President Trump is too concerned about is, and I understand civilian casualties and how that will look, destroy.
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Mark Levin
It's the Arab countries that are heavily lobbying in Turkey against any further military action. I happen to know this, as a matter of fact.
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Yeah, he can't worry about that. We. I agree with you. We've got to finish. We got to completely finish this. And then he's concerned with, well, what comes after. Well, here's what comes after. He says to the shah's son there, look, we'll put you in as the provisional leader. You don't run the joint like your father. Agree? All right. Agree you have freedoms and agree to have a free and fair election.
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Mark Levin
Well, he said, the prince has said he would do it for 100 days and as a transition, he's got more backing than anybody else, quite frankly. And I think that's what he would do. I think that's what he would do. I think that's what a Reagan would do, perhaps, is you can't be sure of everything. You can't be 100% how everything's gonna turn out, but you just don't want to participate in a process where you can be fairly certain that this regime is gonna be back, if you know what I mean.
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Yes, you read my mind. He could then, ala Reagan, he could then give a national. After all this, he could give an address to the nation and says, we've done what we had to do. We tried to avoid civilian casualties. Unfortunately, this is what happens when you don't have a second Amendment. All right, taking a dig at the Democrats. All right, so then we tried to get weapons, people. All right, as far as rebuilding the infrastructure, Mark, we've got all the oil. We will then control the oil over there. We will pledge to use the oil sales to help rebuild Iran, but we can't let that stop us. I think if he proceeds like that, all right, President Trump will win overwhelming support, certainly the base, but of the American people, like that.
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Mark Levin
All right, Steve, Got a roll. Thank you. One more. C.J. buffalo, New York. Sirius XM, satellite go right ahead.
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Callers and Producer
Thank you. I agree with everything you say, especially about this war and about the inherent evilness of the Democratic Party. My worry is if the regime serves up, survives this, they're gonna, they're gonna go balls to the wall with a nuke as soon as Trump's out. And God help us if the Democrats are in. They won't do anything. And they're going to be frothing at the mouth, especially this ayatollah now that's lost his legs and lost his lips and is all burned up. They're going to avenge this. And if they do it in a difficult, hard way on us, the Democrats are going to blame Trump even though he's out of office and maga. And it's going to cause some real civil unrest in this country.
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Mark Levin
All right, C.J. thank you for your call. All right, folks, we're going to move on. I know there's many more who want to participate in this. There's always tomorrow. There'll be more tomorrow. We'll take more calls tomorrow, but we're going to move on. Thank you. Smartest of all audiences, and you prove it every time. We'll be right back. Paying 70, 80, $90 a month to Big Wireless for unlimited data is insanity. Especially when Pure Talk, my wireless company, is going to give you unlim unlimited high speed data for just 34.99amonth. Unlimited high speed data at Pure Talk used to start at 55 bucks a month. But because Pure Talk is constantly pushing to give you more for less, you can now get unlimited high speed data for just 34.99amonth. So if you've looked at Pure Talk before and you didn't make the move, please check them out again. And if you're wondering is Pure Talk's network really as good as the overpriced big guys, try it out for 30 days with no contract, no cancellation fees, you have nothing to lose. 30 days. Check it out. Their US customer service team is standing by to help you switch in as little as 10 minutes. Go to PureTalk.com Levin that's PureTalk.com L E V I N to claim unlimited high speed data. Just 34. 99. Again, that's puretalk.com Levin L E V I N Switch to my wireless company, America's Wireless Company, PureTalk. Again, that's PureTalk.
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Mark Levin, America's real influencer. Dial in 877-381-3811.
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Mark Levin
Let's see here. I wanted to give read something to you. They will find it Just a second. The other thing is this, by the way, the other thing is this. CETCOM details egregious ceasefire violations by Iran last night. This is at right scoop. I mean, they're shooting like hell. They're attacking like hell. Their surrogate Hezbollah is firing off missiles left and right. This doesn't seem like a regime that's really all that interested, does it? It's not going to change, folks. It's not going to change. Here's what I wanted to read to you. Poor Erica Kirk. She can't live in peace with her two beautiful daughters after her wonderful husband was assassinated less than a year ago. You've got Candace Owens, who's a stalker who says the most horrific things about her. And she's not alone. She's not alone. You have people coming to her defense or who will not criticize her other Woke Reich podcasters. It's truly grotesque. This poor young lady has been through so much and now this from the Sun Death Threat Terrifying Erica Kirk, obsessive 26 year old, is arrested after threatening to kill the Turning Point USA CEO by bombing event, quote unquote. A sick would be assassin has been arrested after making multiple threats to kill Erica Kirk and bomb a major Turning Point USA event, according to a warrant. And the shocking alleged plot emerged just days before Kirk is due to appear at a TP USA Women's Leadership Summit in San Antonio, Texas. Jocko Wensk, 26, was arrested today if the cops uncovered a series of online threats about the summit tied to him, according to an affidavit obtained by local ABC affiliate ksat. Police said Wensk responded to an April social media post about the summit with an alarming message, quote, I know exactly where to bomb, he wrote, according to the arrest warrant. Wenk's alleged obsession with Kirk was laid out in the warrant, which detailed multiple threats tied to her and TP USA events. Investigators connected the Facebook account used to make the comments to Wensky through subscriber information, registered email addresses, phone numbers and IP address data. He also appeared to reference getting close to Kirk at the event, according to the warrant. I can't wait to be the valet for her escort, he wrote. Cops later uncovered a January 2026 email attributed to Wensk that again targeted Kirk and other Turning Point USA speakers. Death to Erica Kirk and every single speaker there, the email read. It also claimed there would be a bombing at every single, and I'm quoting Turning Point rallying event, according to the warrant. He's been charged with two felony counts of making a terroristic threat causing public fear. And once bond has been set at combined 120,000, court records indicate it's a three day event scheduled to run June 5 to 7, set to take place in San Antonio. I'm not going to tell you what hotel and all that. That you can find out if you want, if you're interested. This poor woman is the burden of the world on her shoulders. She watched as her husband was assassinated. She was there. I refuse to watch the video that shows the actual assassination. I can't. He was a friend of mine. I can't. And she is tormented every damn day by this Candace Owens. And rather than all people in media uniting and condemning Candace Owens making Kelly won't, Tucker Carlson won't, others won't. And you're not going to force me to do it. Nobody's seeking to force anybody to do anything. Nobody. But when people talk like this and they keep up and keep it up and keep it up, they can get somebody kill. They can get somebody killed. You keep trashing Jews and Israel and so forth and so on. You can get somebody killed when you make false allegations about public people dragging us into wars and so forth. And so I don't even want to think about it. Rich. And yes, I've had threats and I'm not going to get into that either. Nope, we're not going to get into that either. One of the things I do want to tell you about, total different subject, but I've been warning about this. I wrote a book called Plunder and Deceit and I warned in that book about the financial condition of the nation, the massive debt and massive debt that's not even recognized. It's off the books for these unfunded obligations and that it was only a matter of time and that the pensions, Social Security and Medicare because you know folks, I'm of the age, the ruling class politicians stole all the money out of the Social Security trust fund. Even though you get like every six months or whenever an update, you have this much in your account. You don't have an account, you have a paper account. So at some point somebody's going to be holding the bag. People don't like it when you call it a Ponzi scheme. People need their Social Security. They rely on it. And this is the difficulty right now because the government has stolen it. So they keep printing money, they used it for general operating funds. You can't take that money from people who've paid into Social Security their entire lives, nor should you. And that's the problem with A Ponzi scheme. It wasn't created as a Ponzi scheme, but it became one when they took all the money out of it. So all those people ought to go to prison. They're called politicians, but they never will. The budget's utterly out of control. And no, it's not Donald Trump's fault. This has been going on for 80 years. 80 years. And under Biden it was so accelerated because they used the pandemic to massively increase spending by trillions and then they use that as the base mark for future budgets, not as a one time spending program. No, every future budget, the baseline was increased. And God forbid if you want to cut any spending, even the fraud, look how they went after Elon Musk and Doge. And I think JD Vance is doing a hell of a job on this right now. On fraud, give credit where credit is due. But Here we have Fortune.com interest on the national debt is eating a record 19% of federal revenue. And watchdog warns it will get worse. So 20 cents out of every dollar taken in by the federal government goes to interest on the national debt. You got that? The federal government already spends more on debt interest than on Medicaid, national defense or all non defense discretionary spending combined. Now with the 30 year treasury yield surging past 5.19% as interest rates go up its highest level in almost 20 years. A leading now why does that go up? Why does that go up? It's not because of inflation, because people are putting their money where they think it's safest in 30 year treasury yield. So the rate goes up its highest level in almost 20 years. A leading fiscal watchdog is warning that what was already a crisis can turn into something much worse. This is why I urge you to diversify. This is why I urge you to consider gold and silver. Not with all your pension, not with all your money and investments. But diversification. According to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, interest cost consumed a record 3.25% of the gross domestic product, roughly 19% of all federal revenue in fiscal year 2025, if treasury yields remain elevated at current levels, roughly 55 basis points above Congressional Budget Office projections. The CBO is always wrong. Interest costs would grow 2.5 fold, climbing from 80, $880 billion today ready for this to $2.5 trillion in 2036. In 10 years that will push debt interest share of federal revenue to almost 30%. 30% of the revenue of the federal government will be spent on interest. You understand what I'm saying 30%. The numbers are staggering in their own right. But the Committee for Responsible Budgeting warns the real danger lies in the mechanics behind them. When the average interest rate on the national debt exceeds the economic growth rate, say, the GDP grows at 2.5%, but the interest is growing at 3. 3.5%. What economists call an RG, debt can begin rising rapidly and uncontrollably. Under the elevated rate scenario, the gap would reach 75 basis points by 2036, meaning increasingly difficult for even responsible fiscal policy to stop the debt spiral. It'll be out of control. The combination of high debt levels and a large gap between R and G can lead to a debt spiral where rising interest costs boost debt, rising debt boosts interest rates, and rising rates boost interest costs further. Got that? Is that not frightening? Mr. Producer? You better start thinking about this, folks. I'm not kidding. You got to start thinking about this. This is the reality. And I wrote about it, talked about it for decades, but I wrote about it in Plunder and Deceit. Here we have another report, finance.yahoo.com and I'll get into this in a moment, but you need to hear it. We'll be right back. Paying 70, 80, $90 a month to Big Wireless for unlimited data is insanity. Especially when Pure Talk, my wireless company, is going to give you unlimited high speed data for just 34. 99amonth. Unlimited high speed data at Pure Talk used to start at 55 bucks a month. But because PureTalk is constantly pushing to give you more for less, you can now get unlimited high speed data for just 34.99amonth. So if you've looked at Pure Talk before before and you didn't make the move, please check them out again. And if you're wondering, is Pure Talks network really as good as the overpriced big guys, try it out for 30 days with no contract, no cancellation fees, you have nothing to lose. 30 days. Check it out. 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Now broadcasting them from the underground command post deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker somewhere under the brick and steel of a nondescript building, we've once again made contact with our leader, Mark Len.
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Mark Levin
Hello, America. Mark Levin Here, our number, 877-381-3811, 8773-813-811. Have you checked out my video podcast Liberty's Voice today? I hope you'll check it out on YouTube and rumble. It's a really good one. It's a really good one. I think you're gonna like it. Now, don't tell me you're gonna check it out, but you really don't. If you don't know how to check it out, ask somebody around you who does. Mr. Producer, open your microphone if you would. People are saying I don't know how to get on Rumble or YouTube. What do they do? It's rumble.com. type in Mark Levin show or just Mark Levin, Liberty's Voice. They can find you a hundred ways. Just go on Google and type in Liberty's Voice, Mark Levin, and you'll have links popping up all over the place, which is your point. And also you can go to our social media, right? Correct. Just go to my social. What's that at? Mark Levin show at Mark Levin show and it's there and we have it everywhere. So if you haven't tried it, I hope you'll try it. I know you're going to enjoy it. If you like the radio show, so it's Liberty's voice, just put it in your search engine, Google or whatever you use or just go to our social media on X or wherever we are, we're everywhere. Or go to the website marklevinshow.com the links are everywhere. I'd like you to check it out. I think you're going to love it. I really are. I really do, rather. All right, got to hit it now. This is Yahoo. Finance. Soaring interest cost spark new warnings of potential debt Spiral Yoval Rosenberg of the famous Rosenberg, Rosenberg, Rosenberg Mohammed Law Firm. No, not really. A trio of recent articles by center left economists and policy wonks warn about the trajectory of the national debt. Now the reason I'm reading this one is because I thought that was particularly interesting because the left really kind of blows off the national debt right now. They're scared to death. America is heading for a debt, what do they call it? A debt. A debt apocalypse. A debt apocalypse, Noah Smith warned in a substack post published on Saturday. So of course they attacked Trump, but they also attacked Biden. But it's longer than that. This has been a long term problem and it's a big problem. Jared Bernstein, who was chair of President Biden's Council on Economic Advisors, wrote in the Atlantic that he's worried about this and it goes on. And so just to underscore the point, the problem is this. The interest on the debt is out of control. Now because the debt's out of control, we have all kinds of unfunded obligations out there big time. There's no political will to pull in anything. You saw the latest effort by Elon Musk and Doge and the President of the United States. And as they tried to pull in just a few hundred billion dollars, not even a trillion dollars, they came under vicious assault, vicious assault. We're talking about tens of trillions of dollars here. Tens of trillions of dollars. And what they're saying is once the spiral begins, you can't pull out of it. The interest in the debt goes up. That causes interest across the board to go up. That causes inflation to go up,
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Mark Levin
causes interest to go up further to keep up with inflation. And so it goes like a domino effect. The value of paper money is destroyed. The fiscal house for the nation is destroyed. I'm not trying to scare you I'm trying to wake you up. So you've got to do things in your own life to try and address this. I mean, it even gets worse. The rule of law starts to crumble. Government takes powers they call emergency powers. You saw it in the pandemic. That was a tiny little taste of it. Government services can't be fulfilled, even the basic services. When I buy gold, by the way, I tend to buy coins that can be used as currency. Not that I want to use gold as currency, but you never know. Just in case, you know, when we had the Depression and Franklin Roosevelt took over, they banned the purchasing of gold. They banned it because they knew that's where people would run. Same with silver. Same with silver. So while it's a little quiet out there, think about diversification. That's why I talk to you about it and monetary gold and so forth. Yes, I have gold. I also have other things. You know, I believe in diversification. That's the way to go with these things. Again, I'm not trying to scare anybody. I'm just telling you reality. Let's go to Craig. Let me see if we have a new. Yeah, let's go to Craig in Danville. One second, Craig. Don't pull them up yet. Let me pull this up myself. Here we go. Danville, Pennsylvania. The great wmlp. Craig, how are you?
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Callers and Producer
Hey, thanks for having me. I'm doing pretty good. I would like to scare people a little bit, I guess, because it's a good motivator. I have a number that shocks people.
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Mark Levin
Well, you're coming and going. You're in and out. Give it another shot.
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Callers and Producer
Okay, I've got a number here that should hopefully shock people a little bit. The debt divided by the citizens. So you take the total debt divided by all of the citizens, every man, woman and child. If you figure your average family, husband, wife, two children, let's just say, you know, four people, it's almost a half a million dollars for that family to pay back that debt.
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Mark Levin
It's impossible.
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Callers and Producer
If you add. It seems so. I agree. If you add the state, the total state debt across the nation, it's over.
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Mark Levin
But let me tell you where this is even worse. You're not adding unfunded liabilities, which are over $300 trillion.
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Callers and Producer
That's correct. That's correct.
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Mark Levin
So if you add unfunded programs and liabilities that they don't put on the books. They don't put them on the books. Then you're talking about well over a million dollars. Well over a million dollars. And I've talked about this before, Craig. One of the reasons the post office is always in trouble, looking for money. It's the one entity, the only one I believe, where their debt, for the pension monies that they owe, they have to have on the books. We don't have the debt owed pensions for federal employees or any of the rest of it. Even on our books. You wear that.
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Callers and Producer
I was.
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Mark Levin
They're not on the books, they're off the books. Except for the post office. Go ahead.
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Callers and Producer
The whole thing, it just really ought to scare people. And you can see when you're running those numbers, like when you're reading that article there, it's hard to kind of wrap your head around it. But if you owed a half a million dollars, you can see pretty quick how it becomes difficult to pay that back and pay the interest.
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Mark Levin
But what gets me is you still have these Marxists, these buffoons out there talking about nationalizing health care. In other words, more and more and more and more and more debt. And they will defend this spending and more of it and a lot more of it by even shutting down the government. This is the Democrat Party.
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Callers and Producer
It's because. It's because we have not had to pay it back in a very long time. We've allowed our politicians to continue spending and continue spending. And it's just like anybody that has gotten in over their head. As long as you're able to get more debt, it's not really a problem. It's only when you need to pay it back that it actually becomes a problem.
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Mark Levin
That's why one of my Liberty Amendments talks about capping it and another Liberty Amendment talks about the gradual reduction of the spending that if it's put in place immediately, could have a relatively positive effect, I hope. But you need a convention of states because Congress isn't going to pass constitutional amendments by 2/3 of both houses and they're just not going to do it because Congress created this problem. Thanks for your call, brother. We'll be right back.
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Callers and Producer
Mud loving.
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Mark Levin
Well, I have a good friend, Steve Dase. He really is. He's also very moral and principled man. That's always a good thing. It's hard to find that, particularly on the podcast, on the podcast Clan out there. But he's got a great book out for young people, right, Steve?
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Steve Dace
It is, brother. It's for the kids out there. And we skipped a generation of teaching history and heritage in this country, so. So I'm going to do my part with your help in trying to do something about that. So thank you.
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Mark Levin
The book is why Independence Day. America is great because God is good. And you get it on Amazon.com and I encourage you to get it, particularly now. It's a good time of the year. And you and I agree. You know, we can't leave it up to the government to educate our kids. We can't leave it up to a third party to educate our kids. We need to be the force that teaches them. And tell us about your book and why you decided to do this.
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Steve Dace
Well, we started this after Rush passed away. My publisher came to me and said, you know, we had this huge success in reaching the next generation with these Rush Revere books. Would you maybe consider trying to step into that realm? And I'm like, I could not carry Russia's jock strap, but let me think about it. And I came back and I said, what about if we told, you know, talked about America's spiritual. Spiritual heritage? And we attacked it directly from that perspective, and they loved it. And so we planned out a trilogy of them. We launched in 2022 with why Thanksgiving? And that became a national bestseller. It was one of the bestselling children books of that year. Then we came back with why Easter? In 2024. And then the. The finale was always scheduled to be for America's 250th, why Independence Day? And I always intended. You know, my late friend Charlie Kirk used to always point out that Deuteronomy was the most quoted book by the founders. And so I. I wanted to go back because our story, our 250th birthday, is really a story 3,000 years in the making. I mean, it really starts at Sinai with those stone tablets. And that's why you see the Ten Commandments and Moses prevalent in our founding buildings and documents and references going back in our history. And. And even I was just in Washington, D.C. a week ago doing a heritage tour. You can still see those artifacts and relics of our founding still there. And so I. I wanted to trace that history. Where did we come from? Where did these ideas come from? And. And point out that this is. This is a heritage and a legacy to be proud of. There's no way we would be here without what our founders called Providence or the hand of God, the. The literal sovereign. Without providing favor to them, they often, in many of their writings, you know, this mark, they. They. They provoked it. They. They asked for it. The final paragraph of the Declaration, you know, they. They ask the supreme ruler of the universe to judge them for the rectitude of their actions. They they say, listen, if this declaration is bad, if it's wrong, if what we're doing in rebelling against this king is not moral, it doesn't align with your will, if it doesn't make the world better than it was before, don't let it be successful, because it will only be successful if this is what if this aligns with your will. And so I wanted to trace that, that line of history for the next generation. And I had no idea when we started this project five years ago in this trilogy, had no idea we would be in this position, had no idea we'd see this assault of anti Semitism on the right. I mean, there was nowhere on anybody's radar, certainly not mine. And so to use that term, providential again, I think that the timing of this book and the way that it's structured almost seems like I am specifically responding to the moment. But it takes six to eight months to illustrate a book like this. And so I had no idea we were going to be in this moment. It's just very serendipitous timing for it.
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Mark Levin
It's a beautiful book. Why Independence Day? America is great because God is good. What would you say the age group is for this book?
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Steve Dace
I'd say three to 10. Although adults will love it. It's just, you know, once kids get to like 11, they think they're too cool for this stuff, you know? You know, I think parents. Yeah, I think parents are going to learn a lot about this too. And I mean, you're one of the most prolific authors in the history of our movement. I will just tell you, this is my 14th book. It's my fourth children's book. Marc. The amount of editing it takes to put one of these children's books together eclipses my other 10 books combined. I mean, trying to constantly distill down. How would a three or four year old understand this? Right? These are cosmic concepts that we're talking about here. And so it does take, even though it's only 48 pages, barely 2,000 words, it takes a lot in order to make sure that those are words that are going to be understandable to our children, particularly in this current era we're in, when a lot of these concepts are foreign and opposite really, of what they're seeing reinforced in their schools and
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Mark Levin
everywhere else, folks, especially now, it's so important to lay the foundation for your children and grandchildren. And this book is fantastic. Why Independence Day. America is great because God is good. And it is very, very important. This whole Judeo Christian belief system and Value system, which really is the basis of the Enlightenment too. And that is the basis of your country. And it's not really taught, is it? Steve Dase
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Steve Dace
For a simple reason, brother. As you know, if it was taught, we'd be doing things a lot differently in this country. If it was taught. Right. I mean, there's a lot of things that we are doing and being asked to accept that no previous era or generation of this country, regardless of voting pattern or socioeconomic status, would have accepted. And you really have to spend a generation hijacking a heritage and a culture from the people in order to seed the ground so that you can do to them what we're now doing in this generation. You really can't do this all in one fell swoop. And I think also going back to the moment here, Mark, this is why these forces that are particularly going, and I'm a white evangelical, so I'm sensitive to this, but these forces going after the white evangelical boomer voting base, and here's what people need to understand. The reason why we are not Western Europe right now is because we came out of this. The church in America produced a critical mass of voters to counter the counterculture. And those were the voters that gave us the Reagan revolution, that gave us the Maga revolution. If it were not for those boomer white evangelical voters, we'd be Western Europe, we'd be France and England right now. That's the difference. To attack those people, to attack those people, to divide them, to despair them. They have really been, pardon the pun here, the bulwark against what the leftist spirit of the age has been everywhere else in the West.
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Mark Levin
Do you think that's why, in part, Steve, the people who are attacking Jews and Judaism in Israel have gone down the road of attacking evangelical Christians and so called Christian Zionists 100%.
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Steve Dace
And you know, throughout the history of Christendom, particularly during the, you know, 1800 years, there was no nation called Israel on the earth. There has been a lot of debate within the New Testament world about, you know, particularly Romans 9, 11. Does it mean there will be another country called Israel or not? A lot of debate. But that's not the same as just essentially saying, if you. It's funny, they claim that those that don't have the prophetic Israel opinion are dogmatic, but really they're the ones being dogmatic now, if you don't reject it as they do.
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Mark Levin
All right, I want to carry you through the break, if I may. It's a fantastic book. I encourage you to get it. Go to Amazon.com why Independence Day? America is great because God is good. And this will help you push back against all the static that's out there and help you with your kids and grandkids in a big way. We'll be right back.
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Callers and Producer
The Thunder on the right. Call in now.
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Mark Levin
8, 7, 7, 3. Steve Dace is a good man. He's a great host, very reliable, very principled man. You know what, Steve, I'm sure many people already know. Tell people a little bit about your background.
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Steve Dace
Well, my wife has always threatened when she writes her autobiography, she's gonna call it I Married a Mailroom clerk because that's where I started. I was a mailroom clerk. I got a job doing part time sports reporting. And from there I worked into sports talk radio. And, and it's kind of again, similar to Rush. He started in sports, so did I, and then got moved to news radio. And I had a group of successful businessmen come to me after seeing the influence I was able to wield here in Iowa, particularly when we took out the Supreme Court justices back in 2010 and made history doing that. And they were like, you know, we know that some successful business people took a guy from Sacramento named Rush and took him out east to see what he could do. We kind of want to do the same thing with you, if you're up to it. And they did. And, and it took a long time to build this thing little by little. But eventually, you know, a company that Salem Radio that I know you're familiar with, picked me up and gave me a shot nationally, created a time slot for me. And then, you know, kind of everything kind of went digital. And then we were at Conservative Review together. And then our company merged with the Blaze. And, you know, that's kind of how this all happened.
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Mark Levin
Yeah. And you love it, don't you?
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Steve Dace
I do. You know, it's kind of surreal to me. I mean, I, I mean, I grew up listening to you and Rush and Glenn, you know, and now I'm the. I've been the show after Glenn here on the Blaze for going on eight years now. I remember growing up one time listening to your show. You said something that rocked my world that I'll never forget. We're not. We are not a nation of immigrants. We're a nation of citizens. I've never forgotten that. And I have cited that many, many times in my own career, in fact.
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Mark Levin
Well, you're very kind. Now, this book, folks. Why Independence Day? America is Great Because God is Good. It's as if this book was Destined to come out now because it's so, so important. What's the feedback you've gotten from anybody so far?
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Steve Dace
The feedback's been pretty excellent. I think that those who would be negative have kind of written me off. And I will just say I'm heartbroken at what has happened with Tucker Carlson. I've known him for years. He's been very kind to me in the past. But I, you know, I can't think of anybody in all of human history, Mark, not one person who has gone down the, the, the deep rot, rotted well of the Jews and come back like, you know, you know, that person's more well adjusted, kinder, gentler and, and just a more patient and, you know, you know, well mannered person than they were before. No one, no one goes down that. It's almost like it's supernatural. No one goes down that hole and comes back better for it. And much of what I see happening, I look at Megyn Kelly and I'm like, how do you change your position on Islam from January of this year? I know you're saying totally different things four months later. You know, these are serious people. These are, these are not, you know, grifters. These are people that worked on serious platforms, have serious followings. And that's why I don't think this stuff is just necessarily click driven. I really don't. I think it's more sinister than that. And that's what I am concerned about. I think that there is clearly a spiritual war raging in America. I think we saw that with the President missing a clean headshot by mere centimeters in the middle of that campaign. And I think that this spiritual all that's left of Christendom, we're all that's left of Western civilization. This is it. And so, I mean, I think that this is the valley of Megiddo culture war level culture war that's happening in America right now.
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Mark Levin
So we either win it or it's over, you're saying?
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Steve Dace
Yeah, I don't think there's this, this is not going to be. We're not grading papers here, brother. We're not. This is an 83% no. It's a pass fail. All right, It's a. But I like to describe it as a worldview steel cage match. All right? Two worldviews have entered and only one is walking out. That's it. And that's the charge of this particular era and generation. We're going to decide right now if we're going to fulfill Reagan's most doomer prophecy. That we're always one generation away of being the generation that has to go back and tell our kids and grandchildren what it was once like in America when we were free. That's going to be decided in this era right here.
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Mark Levin
And it is, and it truly is. Do you think we're up to it?
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Steve Dace
I'm more optimistic than I have been ever in my career, which admittedly is a low bar because I'm not necessarily Mr. Optimism, but I do see more resolve to fight than I've ever seen. I'm not sure that we necessarily have a great plan at times it does seem like we still react more often than we are pushing the agenda. But I do think that there is more of a resolve than what I have seen in the past. For sure. I am concerned about this election cycle. I'm concerned when I look at Texas, for example, and in their primary in March. I don't think Democrats have won a statewide race in Texas, Mark, since 96 or something like that. And yet we had the most hotly contested primary in America was Cornyn and Paxton. Over 100 million spent in that race.
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Mark Levin
Hold on, we lost you. 100 million spent in the race and what?
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Steve Dace
Yes. 140,000 more people voted in the Democratic primary than in ours. And that energy level, we have got to get that energy level up for sure. I see it in my home state of Iowa. We've got a primary coming up on Tuesday. We might be looking at 25% turnout or lower. And we've got an all time record number of Republicans in my home state, Mark.
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Mark Levin
It's very worrisome, no question about it. Well, I'll tell you what, Steve, you're fantastic. You have a lot of wisdom. You bring a lot to the table. I can't thank you enough. And I want to encourage you folks, get this book for your kids and your grandkids. Now's the time. Why Independence Day? America's great. Because God is good. I encourage you to get it. And God bless you, my friend. You're a good man, too.
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Steve Dace
I appreciate it, man. Same to you. And it's an honor. Thank you, Mark.
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Mark Levin
My honor. You take care of yourself. He's a great guy. He really is. And he works hard and he's a man of deep faith, which I appreciate. And he supports other people too, you know, other people out there battling away. But listen to what he said. Pearls of wisdom there. This is a battle for this generation. And if this generation, you, me, we lose this battle, we're going to lose the country. There's no question about it. We have a lot of challenges. We've been talking about the spending and the debt. We have the Islamists, we have the Marxists, we have the woke Reich neo fascists overseas. This is why I'm so adamant about finishing off the Islamo Nazi regime in Iran. There are certain choices that are made both internally and externally that are fateful choices. Fateful F A T e fateful choices. Those choices will determine the future of our country and the future of the West. Europe is not up to it. Europe is dying right in front of our eyes. New York City is being devoured right in front of our eyes. We have other communities around the country in Texas and New Jersey, Michigan and elsewhere. The enemy knows what it's doing. The enemy has announced what it's doing. The regime in Iran needs to be destroyed for all the reasons we've talked about over months and months, if not years and today for sure. But even more, it is a funding mechanism for an international revolution. That's the belief system for the Muslim Brotherhood and for all the other isms out there. We don't have a choice. And I just fret that when this is over, Hamas survives, Hezbollah survives. The Iranian regime survives. One of the great leaders in world history, Netanyahu, is defeated as Churchill was defeated shortly after World War II. In that perhaps we lose the midterms in the next election. It's going to complicate things in a significant way. And unfortunately the Democrat party is not the Democrat party of 50, 60, 70 years ago where you had a significant percentage of elected Democrats who were quite patriotic, moderate, if not conservative. Those days are over. You heard Hakeem Jeffries, you've heard Schumer. They want to destroy the court, they want to destroy the Senate, they want to destroy the House, they want to destroy the rule of law. They've been very aggressive and even self righteous about turning the Justice Department into the injustice department to try and destroy Donald Trump. These are very evil and dangerous people. We've got a lot to deal with and we've got to stay united. You and me, all you Levinites out there, we have to grow our numbers and we have to confront this. I don't believe in making deals with the devil. If the Islamo Nazi regime in Tehran is at the devil, I don't know what the hell is. And I have politely voiced my position publicly, privately, in every other way. I'm not the all powerful figure some people think I am. We have some power, you and I together, but we don't make the decisions we try, encourage, persuade and convince. That's what we do. This is also why I use this platform and all my platforms. When I tell you I'm mission oriented, I am. I'm mission oriented. That's what I am. That's what you are, ultimately. Because if not us, who? If not this platform, then what platform? I really believe it. I'll be right back.
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Callers and Producer
Mark Le Ben.
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Mark Levin
Let's go to Jim. Oakland, New Jersey, the great wabc. Jim, how are you?
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Callers and Producer
How are you? Mark, listen, I was a negotiator for the. For the Teamsters.
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Mark Levin
Yeah.
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Callers and Producer
I can't see ever negotiating with these people. You can't negotiate with people that would strap a bomb to themselves and blow themselves up and people around them because they think they're gonna go see 72 virgins. There's no logic in that.
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Mark Levin
That's a problem, isn't it? I mean, we're dealing with a different kind of animal here. Right.
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Callers and Producer
We need to finish the job and arm the people. That's what we need to do.
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Mark Levin
I'm with you. By the way, I love the Teamsters. I'm with you 100%. Thank you, buddy. You take care of Mark. Why do you love the Teamsters? I'll tell you why. When I was campaigning for Ronald Reagan, the Teamsters endorsed him twice. Did you know that, Rich? Twice. And they became very, very close, very tight. Teamsters is full of conservatives. They are. And Jim is 100% right. You can't negotiate with people who are going to strap bombs on their back. Nuclear bombs, for that matter. Let's go to Thomas, Stafford, Virginia, the great Wmal Thomas. How are you?
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Callers and Producer
Good, sir. Thank you, love. You show.
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Mark Levin
Thank you, love.
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Callers and Producer
President Trump in his administration. Yes, I have a lot of experience in this kind of environment. Anyhow, not my resume, but I think the ceasefire is a mistake, and we should have continued to pepper them with five targets every day and say, hey, we're going to hit these five tomorrow. We're going to hit these five, and then the next day, we're going to hit these five and continue on until they fold and we need to annihilate them.
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Mark Levin
And you're an army veteran, it says here, right?
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Callers and Producer
Yes. 32 years.
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Mark Levin
Wow.
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Callers and Producer
06. Commanded all the way up through brigade. I was an SFAT team leader in Afghanistan, and, you know, trying to train the army, the police, giving them all the resources, fuel, money, equipment, and they just stood down, and to me, that was a waste.
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Mark Levin
Mm. But you see, the people in Iran, man, they. They want to fight. They just need. They just need some help, for God's sakes. They need some weapons, and they ought to be getting them. Thank you for your service, my friend. And I want to thank all the callers, all the listeners. You are fantastic. You're what makes this country work. And I'm deeply proud that you're there. I truly am. Fantastic calls. We salute our armed forces, police officers, firefighters, emergency personnel, ice, our truckers, the men and women in Israel, the men and women in Ukraine, the men and women in Persia, and you, the American people. I love you. God bless you. We'll do this again tomorrow, same place, same time. Take care.