5/7/26 - Iran's Regime Must Surrender or Face Destruction

Summary

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Mark Levin Podcast: May 8, 2026

Episode Title: "Iran's Regime Must Surrender or Face Destruction"

Main Theme

In this high-intensity episode, Mark Levin dives deep into the ongoing crisis in the Middle East, focusing on Iran’s recent attacks on U.S. naval forces, American responses, and the wider strategic and ideological stakes. Levin forcefully argues that the only solution is for Iran’s regime to surrender or be destroyed, drawing connections to historical precedents and the current political environment in the U.S. The show also addresses the implications of redistricting battles in multiple states, trends in U.S. and global gold markets, the disruptive influence of radical ideologies in American cities, and interviews with Governors Ron DeSantis (Florida) and Greg Abbott (Texas) about major state and national issues.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking News: Iran Attacks US Navy in Strait of Hormuz

• CENTCOM Statement: Levin reports breaking news that Iranian forces launched missiles, drones, and small boats attacking three U.S. Navy destroyers in the Strait of Hormuz, with the U.S. successfully neutralizing the threats. (00:04–03:00)
• Levin's Critique: Levin criticizes the "defensive" U.S. reaction and messaging, arguing that only a forceful offensive approach will bring resolution:

  “When you put out a statement like that, you’re sending the wrong message to the enemy... unless we finish them off, we will not have a clear victory.” (03:25)

2. Strategic Approach to Iran: "Surrender or Die"

• Regime Change by Supporting the Resistance: Advocates for arming Iranian resistance groups, similar to Reagan-era covert operations in Afghanistan and Latin America. Notes the vulnerability of Iran’s regular army and widespread popular discontent (~80% of the population):

  “The goal is to encourage... the army to drop gun and run or turn on the internal security forces.” (06:25)

• Critical of U.S. Intelligence: Doubts whether the current CIA has the capability or will to support such operations, highlighting risk-averse bureaucracy. (07:50)

3. Historical Parallels & Ideological Analysis

• Iran’s Death Cult Ideology: Levin draws on theocratic/Marxist fusion in Iran’s leadership—“Marxist Islamists”—and compares the current moment to rare historical opportunities to defeat a wholly illegitimate and dangerous regime:

  “As long as the regime survives, the ideology survives. And the ideology is one of worldwide Islamist revolution.” (24:22)

4. Domestic Political Impact & Media Narratives

• Unity and Resolve Needed: Stresses that only a decisive victory will lead to lasting benefits at home—lower gas prices, positive poll numbers, and political momentum.
• “Exit Ramp” Critique: Levin derides calls for a negotiated “exit ramp” as surrender talk:

  “There is no exit ramp. Should we surrender? That’s the advice of Piers Morgan... He’s a moron.” (11:45)

5. Economic Context: Gold, Debt, and Liabilities

• Levin links surging U.S. debt and global gold prices, presenting hard data from Treasury reports and suggesting precious metals offer protection against government insolvency. (16:15)
• Quote:

  “Since 2021, gold prices have gone up like the U.S. debt has gone up... The market already knows.” (16:20)

6. American Cities under "Marxist Islamist" Rule

• NYC Focus: Harshly criticizes New York City’s leadership, especially Zorhan Mandami (mayor), accusing him of fostering antisemitic, anti-business, and anti-wealth policies as part of a broader Marxist/Islamist alliance.
• Small Business Flight: Cites billionaire Ken Griffin’s retreat from NYC to Miami, blaming tax hostility and regulatory burdens. (45:00)
• On Mandami:

  “He’s a thug, an absolute thug... He doesn’t care about the vitality of New York.” (48:15)

• AOC Soundbite: Dissects progressive claims that billionaire wealth is “unearned,” asserting it results from innovation and voluntary commerce. (52:28)

7. Redistricting and National Political Landscape

• Florida, Tennessee, and National Trends: Interviews with Governors DeSantis (FL) and Abbott (TX) focus on legislative maneuvers to counter Democrat gerrymanders, property tax reform, and institutionalizing conservative gains.
• DeSantis on Redistricting:

  “We’ve completely dismantled racial gerrymandering ... Now we’ve gained 2 million people since 2020—the map we had was just out of date.” (76:36–78:37)

8. Florida’s Fiscal Revolution

• Property Tax Ballot Initiative: DeSantis details plan to eliminate property taxes on homesteads, touting fiscal conservatism and the state’s explosive growth.

  “If he achieves that... you won’t be paying a personal income tax. And on your home, you won’t be paying a property tax.” (90:45)

9. Texas Targets CAIR: Exposing Radical Networks

• Abbott’s Designation of CAIR: Texas Governor Greg Abbott explains ongoing litigation against CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations), designating it as a foreign terrorist organization and seeking to expose its financial networks. (95:34)
• Abbott on CAIR:

  “We issued discovery requests ... every financial transaction, every person they've met, every time they've traveled to any foreign-based terrorist country or location ... I think CAIR is in full on panic mode right now.” (96:32)

• Mosque “No-Go Zones”: Texas bans creation of “Muslim-only” communities (“no-go zones”). (99:38)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “My view is simple. They surrender or they die.” — Mark Levin (13:00)
• “War has a funny way of resetting the table." — Mark Levin, on why bold actions can bring lasting peace (24:50)
• DeSantis on fiscal reform:

  “We have the capacity to do it ... we have so many people who are not homesteaded, Florida residents who own property—including very valuable property... So we have the tax basis that is enough to be able to get this done.” (83:06)

• Abbott on exposing CAIR:

  "Now we are exposing that for the first time ... we are going to ensure that my designation of them as a foreign terrorist organization is going to be upheld." (98:06)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------| | 00:04–03:00 | Breaking News: Iran attacks US Navy | | 06:25 | Arming Iranian resistance; critique of intelligence | | 11:45 | “Exit ramp” debate and ideological framework | | 16:15 | Gold, debt, and economic warnings | | 24:22 | Ideological analysis: “Marxist Islamists” | | 45:00 | NYC under Mandami, billionaire flight | | 52:28 | AOC on billionaires & Levin response | | 76:02–90:45 | Interview: Gov. Ron DeSantis (Florida) | | 95:34–101:20 | Interview: Gov. Greg Abbott (Texas, CAIR lawsuit) | | 101:53 | CAIR, news story on funding protestors | | 106:24 | Listener question on Trump, Iran, and legacy |

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Additional Observations

• Host's Tone: Combative, urgent, often personal—Levin’s language is direct, occasionally caustic, passionate, and deeply partisan. He names names and draws sharp lines between “us” and “them.”
• Historical Perspective: Frequently references Reagan, previous anti-communist efforts, and founding principles.
• Calls to Action: Throughout, Levin urges listeners to reject defeatist narratives, support conservative political candidates, and demand bold national policies—domestically and abroad.

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Conclusion

This episode serves as Mark Levin’s strategic “call to arms” at a decisive moment for U.S. foreign and domestic policy. From the immediate crisis with Iran to the grass-roots battles over American cities and statehouses, Levin frames these as interconnected fronts in a civilizational conflict—one that demands resolve, unity, and relentless pursuit of victory.

If you want to understand the conservative diagnosis of America’s current crises—foreign and domestic—and hear the blueprint for what Levin sees as the only righteous path forward, this episode is essential listening.

Transcript

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Hey folks, Mark Levin here. Before we dive into today's episode, I want to talk about my go to gold and silver company. Monetary gold is over 25 years helping Americans understand physical gold and silver with an education first, no pressure approach and support for IRA eligible options. Monetary Gold has a complimentary guide. It's free to help you understand precious metals. Call them right now. 877-now-Gold or visit marklovesgold.com and request the free guide. Make sure to ask for details. That's 877-now-Gold. Or visit marklovesgold.com performance may vary. You should always consult your financial and tax consultant. Now let's get to the show. He's here. He's here. Now broadcasting them from the underground command post deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker somewhere under the brick and steel of a nondescript building. We've once again made contact with our leader, Mark Lev. Hello America. Mark Levin here. Our number, 8773-8138-1187-7381-381100. In our three, we have two governors. So separate appearances at the top of the hour, 8pm Eastern, America's governor, Governor Ron DeSantis from Florida. And at 8:30pm Eastern we have the great governor of Texas. He's fantastic as well, Governor Abbott. And that was the best times that they were available on hour three, so you won't want to miss that. But there is breaking news right now from centcom. US Forces intercepted unprovoked Iranian attacks and responded with self defense strikes as US Navy guided missile destroyers transited the Strait of Hormuz to the Gulf of Oman on May 7th. That's today. Iranian forces launched multiple missiles, drones and small boats as USS Truxton, USS Rafael Peralta and USS Mason transited the international sea passage. No U.S. assets were struck. U.S. central Command CENTCOM eliminated inbound threats and targeted Iranian military facilities responsible for attacking US Forces, including missile and drone launch sites, command and control locations, and intel surveillance and reconnaissance nodes. CENTCOM does not seek escalation, but remains positioned and ready to protect American forces. There's also some reports that tonight the UAE has sent its air force to attack Iranian sites and you can see online some of that activity taking place now. What bothers me about the CENTCOM release is these are defensive actions and we don't seek to escalate. To me, when you put out a statement like that, just to me, you're sending the wrong message. You're sending the wrong message to the enemy. You're sending the wrong message to the Arab allies. You're sending the wrong message to our allies, the Israelis, that we will only strike if struck, we will only attack if attacked. We're not going to get this over with and we're not going to have a clear victory unless we finish them off. And I've talked about this now since this war began and even before, militarily, economically and in the interior of Iran. Arm the resistance. Determine what group or groups to help and to arm. Target the irgc, Target the internal security forces. The regular army in Iran is not the Iranian Guard. The regular army in Iran is a real army, but it's not part of the personalized ideological military wing of the Islamo Nazi regime. It is a regular army, not as well trained, not as well equipped, and as it turns out, not getting paid very well lately either. And so the goal is, the goal is to encourage, not through talk, not through messages, the army to basically drop gun and run or to turn on the internal security forces and others. But none of this is going to happen, in my opinion, if we do not get arms to the resistance in Iran. And I can think of no other circumstance and environment where this would work any better. We did this in Afghanistan, we did it in Nicaragua, we did it in Angola, we did it in Honduras. We've done it in many places during the Reagan administration when the CIA director was the great Bill Casey. I'm starting to wonder if our CIA is up to this. Maybe they're risk averse, maybe the bureaucrats have taken over, I don't know. But to leave the third leg of an effective campaign to destroy that regime essentially dormant. To the best of my knowledge, maybe it's not, but I think it is, or at least semi is, is worrisome to me. By the way, I'm not criticizing anything. I'm just explaining my thoughts. That's what I do. And what do I mean? That the environment there, the circumstances there are better than Most. You have 92 million people there. 80% of them want nothing to do with this regime. They've died by the tens of thousands. 50,000 died in January in two days. They have sped up executions. They're executing more people than ever before, mostly young people. They're tightening their grip on the society. They've cut off all communications and now they're able to track if there's even efforts in various homes and other facilities to make communications. Because they know that in order to survive they must continue to kill, torture, imprisonment or they will not survive. And so they are not just looking over Their shoulders. They have turned around and they are attacking their people. Liberating those people is crucially important for them, obviously, and for us. And for us. We should make maximum use of every one of our options here. And once they're supported and armed, our military and the Israeli military should back them up. When they hit a building, when they hit unit, when they hit what they need to hit, they're backed up by our air power. Again, we've done this before. Do we have the will to do it now? I don't know what the CIA is telling the President. I'm concerned that he's being told that it's farcical or that the people won't rise up. And of course, that would be a horrible misjudgment. Historically horrible. And for those who say we need an exit strategy or an exit ramp, first of all, I'm sick of these phrases that get created and then regurgitated as if they mean something. There is no exit ramp. Should we surrender? That's the advice of Piers Morgan. Get out of there. Of course he's a moron. What does he know? He's not the only one. He's not the only one. Many the same crowd, the same radical isolationists who've been trying to sabotage this war effort with their propaganda. And they know it's heard by the enemy and they know they're dispiriting some sector of the American public, but they keep it up. They pretend we're losing. Losing what? Are they nuts? But most of them hate Trump. They didn't hate him before, they hate him now. Or they kept it quiet. But now they're out of the closet. They're fully exposed. And it's very ugly. Very ugly. What the President has done here is historic. It's taken a lot of courage. And we're only in this position to finish them off because he brought us to this point with our military and economically. And despite what the half wits and the nitwits, despite what the radical isolationists woke Reich neo fascists have to say, despite what the Democrats and the Marxists and the Islamists have to say as they all regurgitate the enemy's propaganda as they all interview each other, this has been a spectacular military and economic success up till now. What will determine whether it continues to be so is how this ends. It can be a glorious victory or a historic mistake. I have a lot of faith in our President. I have a lot of faith that he knows this. I also have a lot of faith in the enemy that they are so ideologically, ideologically stuck that there is such a dire death culture that they don't know how to say no, let me reverse that. They don't know how to say yes, yes. My, my view is simple. They surrender or they die. I'll be right back. I Want to share two stories it seems the mainstream media hasn't connected. Story one, the U.S. treasury's own 2025 financial report. It shows $6 trillion in assets and 47 trillion in liabilities. You know that's a negative net worth over $41 trillion. Since 2021, gold prices have gone up like the US debt has gone up and they moved to near lockstep. The market already knows. Story 2 In 2025, global gold demand passed 5,000 tons for the first while mine production grew just 1%. You can see the supply can't meet the demand and you can't print gold. That's why I trust monetary gold. 26 years, 50,000 clients. AAA, Better Business Bureau rating, every fee disclosed up front. 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Governor DeSantis will talk about the change in the congressional seats in Florida, among other things. And Governor Abbott, we're going to talk about CARE and this lawsuit that he has going and how this may finally expose CARE for what it is. And I just think there's a lot of good things going on as well as a lot of challenging and dark things going on. So I'm here to try and sort them through with you. Here we are, my favorite platform radio, in our national town hall meeting. This is what we do, Liberty's Voice today, among other things. Here's a couple clips. Cut one, go. The number one selling conservative book in a generation was this one, Liberty and Tyranny. I wrote it in 2008, 18 years ago. It was published in 2009, 17 years ago. And the world has changed enormously since then. Do we even talk about conservative principles anymore? This book sold 1.5 million copies. And I remember my father, God bless his soul, I sent him the final draft that I was sending in to the publisher and I asked him to take a look at it for me. And I didn't hear from him for a whole week. That wasn't the way we usually communicated. And then he called me and he said, that is a killer book. You've got a hit. It's going to sell a million copies. I said that, dad, you're just my dad. He said, no, it lays it all out in plain English. People are going to really enjoy this book. And he was right. And many of you purchased it and read it. Cut to go. These times are very dark times. They really are. Do we even discuss conservatism today? I feel like we spend more time discussing other people. Do we even teach conservatism and what that means today? I feel like we're so busy playing defense, we don't. Now, don't get me wrong, times are much more extreme and dangerous today than they were when I wrote this book. I think we're really looking into the abyss here. If we don't get our act together. And if we don't get a ruling class in place that's strong enough and has the will to push back. And so I think my goal, my purpose is to help rally the troops, rally Americans to the cause. And this is why I'm live again, obviously. This is why I believe we have to have a solid victory with Iran. The sooner the better. The ceasefire that's gone on, what, four weeks, five weeks, six weeks, Whatever it is, I don't think is helpful to getting this resolved and over with. Victory. The American people like winners. The American people like victory. The politics and the polls will follow. The gas prices will go down. That will follow. Victory has many virtues, including the elimination of a regime that we don't have to worry about anymore. We've got to win these midterm elections. We got people who are out there who tell you the only way to win is basically to surrender to the Iranians. The only way to win is to embrace the Marxist Islamists. You've got some of them now who are talking up Democrats. Ignore these people. Conservative talk radio, my show on Fox and others, certain podcasters, we know what we're talking about. I'll be right back. Two facts, one conclusion. Fact one, the US treasury recently reported the government has $6 trillion in assets and 47 trillion in liabilities, plus 88 trillion more in promises. It cannot. So by definition, that's insolvency. And since 2021, gold prices have tracked US debt almost perfectly. Fact two, in 2025, global gold demand crossed 5,000 tons for the first time in history. Investment demand jumped 84% and mine production rose just 1%. When governments print their way through insolvency, paper weakens and often real assets rise. This is why people call monetary gold the best of the best. 26 years, 50,000 clients. AAA, Better Business Bureau rating. No hidden fees. Call monetary gold right now, 877-now-Gold. Or go to MarkLovesGold.com for your free gold and silver guide. That's 8-77-now-Gold. Or visit MarkLovesGold.com performance may vary. You should always consult your financial and tax professional. Liberty's Voice, Mark Leven. Talk with that voice now, 877-381-3811. Welcome back, folks. Lots going on. I'm trying to keep track of this. I don't have firsthand information, but it does look like good information, like the UAE was hit potentially by the Iranians. Potentially by the Iranians. I've been impressed with that little country, quite frankly. There are a lot of spunk a lot of pushback and they're aligned now with the United States and Israel, there's no question about it. And Israel has been providing them with air defense systems and has been using to some extent its air force to try and protect that country. See the potential here for taking out that regime is truly, truly the spreading of peace in the Middle east in ways we could never contemplate before. War has a funny way of resetting the table of changing things and it can make a big difference. Here's Ambassador Mike waltz at the UN today. I'm a big fan of this guy. Cut 3 go where it seeks to demand that all ship cap captains from international shipping, commercial shipping, civilian shipping, basically have to check in and pay a bribe, pay a toll in order to use these international waterways. So that doesn't just affect this region, it affects the entire world. Imagine, imagine if we had countries, regardless of the conflict, regardless of what you think about the conflict or who. Imagine if you had two countries, hypothetically like Spain and Morocco, have some type of dispute and then throw sea mines

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start trying to charge shipping to pass through the Straits of Gibraltar in a cynical bid for leverage with the other side. Collective punishment of the entire world to try to resolve some type of dispute. It's unacceptable to moral and it's illegal in international law. So this should be a simple demand, the removal of mines from an international waterway that you cannot exact illegal tolls. We have to address these violations here in the Council. And we have to ask ourselves, if a country chooses to oppose such a simple proposition, do they really want peace? And here's the thing, ladies and gentlemen. As long as the regime survives, the ideology survives. And the ideology is one of worldwide Islamist revolution. It's not just about controlling one nation, Iran, it's about a worldwide conquest. That's why they fund terrorism. Qatar does too. But Qatar and Iran, even though they've been aligned in the past, and they may still be to some extent, there are two different Muslim sects, sects and you can't really contain and manage forever this ideology, this death cult. As long as the regime exists, the regime will be as the regime is, doesn't change its spots. Particularly when you, when you combine a religious fervor with an ideological fervor, people call political Islam something very interesting. I went back and I started reading the original Khomeinis comments and what people wrote about him at the time. He used Marxist populist propaganda and he linked it to this jihadi Islamist revolutionary government. So he would talk about the people, the rights of the people, the many versus the few, and in the rich in the west, and the few in the west who really try to control the many. So they used, he used Marxist propaganda and he linked it to the Islamist revolution. Just like the Marxist Communists. They're not limited to a country within borders. This is an international revolutionary movement. Same with the Islamist. This is why I constantly use the phrase Marxist Islamist, Marxist Islamist, because that's what we're dealing with, that's what's going on in Iran. And it is an international revolution. They believe and they argue, compelled by Allah, compelled by God. And the only way the 12th Imam will reveal himself is if they take over the world by force or otherwise. They have to conquer the world and eliminate or force everybody to adhere to, to their fundamentalism. Otherwise the 12th Imam, who's in hiding, will not appear. Once they achieve the purity of the human race, he will appear and there will be peace and prosperity and, you know, flowers blooming in the winter, all kinds of cool stuff. That's what they believe. Now, you can't manage that. You can't contain that for decade after decade after decade. You just can't. Because when you look at our weakness, the Democrat Party, our weakness, the suicidal isolationists and the growing Marxist Islamist influence in our country, look at New York, for God's sakes. But it's going on. We will not have the will, we will not have the political will or the psychological will or the unity as a people to fight it, which has been my point. What happens 10 years from now? What happens when Donald Trump leaves the presidency? What if the Democrats take the presidency? You think they're going to enforce any agreement? I don't care how great the agreement is. What do the framers say about the Constitution? We can give you the best constitution mankind has ever conceived and we have. But if the people lose their virtue, it doesn't matter, because a parchment can't, can't fix a people that don't have virtue. Now, luckily, a majority of us do, but we're still having to fight some cases, play defense. We're up against these very craven forces and it's problematic. The fact of the matter is, in a situation like this, it's very rare in history, very rare to have an enemy like this, that it's on its back, a very, very dangerous enemy. Don't let anybody persuade you otherwise. And the window is a very small window. It's a very small window. So the question is, will we pursue victory or will we Take a step. Will we take a step short of victory? Which means no victory. Temporary victory, interim victory. President just posted on Truth Social. 3 World Class American destroyers just transited very successfully out of the Strait of Hormuz under fire. There was no damage done to the three destroyers, but great damage done to the Iranian attackers. They were completely destroyed, along with numerous small boats which are being used to take the place of their fully decapitated navy. President goes on. These boats went to the bottom of the sea quickly and efficiently. Missiles were shot at our destroyers and were easily knocked down. Likewise, drones came and were incinerated while in the air. Sounds like lasers to me. They dropped ever so beautifully down to the ocean, very much like a butterfly dropping to its grave. A normal country would have allowed these destroyers to pass, but Iran is not a normal country. They are led by lunatics. If they had the chance to use a nuclear weapon, they would do it without question. But they'll never have that opportunity. And just like we knocked them out today, again, we'll knock them out a lot harder and a lot more violently in the future if they don't get their deal signed fast. So we're back to the deal. Our three destroyers with their wonderful crews will now rejoin our naval blockade which is truly a wall of steel. President Donald Trump, I want to remind you about how wrong the Democrats and the media have been. They're always wrong. When Ronald Reagan announced, gave a national speech, the Strategic Defense Initiative sdi, he was mocked. The generals and the scientists who were advising him that this could be done over time, but we needed to apply the resources. They were mocked. And so they mocked him by coming up with this Star wars label. Oh, Star wars great. All fiction, all science fiction, all fantasy. And throughout his presidency at a fight like hell to get funding for the sdi, what would become the Patriot missile defense system and beyond. And Reagan talked about it being like a bullet hitting a bullet, a missile hitting a missile. And again they went to their phony experts who said, that's not possible, it will never happen. But the man who feared it most was Mikhail Gorbachev. And what he knew was the Soviet Union didn't have the resources, didn't have the technology, didn't have the brain power to keep up with us. And that's how we got our nuclear deal. And that's the beginning of the end of the Soviet Union. We can learn from these things. America. It was Reagan with the great CIA Director Bill Casey, the great Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, the great Secretaries of State, first Al Haig, than George Shultz, among others, who decided to arm the resistance, who we called freedom fighters in our hemisphere, to stop the spread of communism in Africa, to stop the spread of communism in Afghanistan, to take out the Soviet government there and in other places. And it worked. And it worked. And the CIA today, in my view, needs to step up in this regard. I'm sure it's doing a fantastic job in other regards. But in this regard, and he can do the same thing for the people of Iran who are chomping at the bit to have an opportunity to overthrow this government. And they can't overthrow the government with their bare hands. They tried in January and they lost 50,000 people. Most of them were their children. And they tried before when Obama was president, same thing. They were mowed down again. And they tried before that, and they were mowed down again. For God's sakes. We're in a position to help them, to arm them and help ourselves at the same time. I'll be right back. There's a Jewish woman named Esther I'd like to tell you about. In her home in Israel, Esther is living through days and nights of fear. Sirens sounding, rockets screaming through the sky, long stretches spent in a bomb shelter. 84 years old, Esther is elderly, fragile and alone. Now imagine that. No help, no food deliveries, no medical care, no one knocking on the door. It's a war zone. But because of friends like you folks, Esther's not alone. Through the International fellowship of Christians and Jews. And you're there bringing food, meeting urgent needs and reminding Jewish people like Esther that they're not forgotten. In times of fear and uncertainty, your compassion brings hope and help. Esther asked that you hear these words. She said to those who give, you're doing a very great mitzvah, a good deed. 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That Jews are being harassed and pushed, beaten on the streets, and when they're attending temple with bullhorns and so forth. And in. In Jewish neighborhoods, swastikas and other and other hateful things are going on because the thugs, the Islamists, the neo Nazis, know they can get away with it. They can get away with it. And Mandami speaks out of both sides of his mouth, and he knows exactly what's taking place. And he's trying to create an environment to depopulate the city of the Jewish. The Jewish people. That's what he's doing. And I think he wants to make it a permanent center for people of his faith. This segment of the podcast is exclusively sponsored by Pure Talk. Pure Talk offers great coverage and can save your family money on your wireless bill every single month. Go to PureTalk.com to find the plan that's right for you. Thank you again for listening, and thank you so much for this sponsorship. Pure Talk. He's here. He's here now, broadcasting them from the underground command post deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker somewhere under the brick and steel of a nondescript building. We've once again made contact with our leader, Mark Levin. Hello, America. Mark Levin here. Our number, 8773-8138-1187-7381-38111. Mandami, at a press conference yesterday, when two people trying to go to a synagogue were harassed, really threatened, it was frightening watching this surrounded right in front of a synagogue. And this is the second or third time it's happened at this synagogue. And these were Islamists. They were dressed like Islamists. They had broken English. And here's Mandami. Cut four, go. There is no tolerance for anti Semitism. And I've also been clear to New Yorkers my honest opinions about the fact that when we have a real estate expo that is promoting the sale of

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land, which includes the sale of land

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in occupied west bank in settlements that

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are a violation of international law.

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I agree with that. Why are the Palestinians in the Judea and Samaria areas? Why are they occupying land that has never belonged to them before? That name was Even concocted in 1965 by Arafat, working With the Russians. Arafat, an Egyptian. So I agree with him on that. That aspect of it. Why is there occupation? But it's not by the Israelis, unless 4,000 years ago was occupation. Piers Morgan doesn't quite know that either. He's a moron. No, the Palestinians, you see Judea and Samaria. So what is the mayor doing? We'll let him finish and then I'll sum up. Go ahead. I firmly disagree with. He disagrees with land sales, real estate sales in Judea and Samaria by the Jews who live in Judea and Samaria. And the fact that they were going to have an event at this synagogue was intolerable to him. This real estate expo promoting the sale of land in violation of international law, Something he firmly disagrees with. And so while he's not anti Semitic, mind you, and while his wife is a bleeding anti Semite, Jew hater, Israel hater, America hater, Christian hater, not the mayor. That's not what attracted him to her. No, no, no, no. Was her brilliance, I guess. And this isn't the first time they had a commission on anti Semitism. And he killed it. And he killed it and other steps that he's taken that demonstrate what he really is. He's a thug, an absolute thug. Doing exactly what I said last hour and last and yet and last night, what he's doing. Of course he's talking out of both sides of his mouth, but he is what he is now. He's attacking the wealthy, as he always does. I said he's a Marxist, Islamist. That's what he is. That's what they are of his ilk. Here's what he says about Ken Griffin now, what did Ken Griffin do to New York? Created thousands and thousands of jobs. The man's worth about $50 billion. That doesn't mean it's in his mattress and so forth. He's created thousands of jobs for families in New York, getting good paychecks, pensions, medical care, paying taxes to the city and the state as he pays taxes for his investments in the city. But that's not good enough. Because a guy who's 35 years old, who's done literally nothing with his life, but he ran for a seat in the state legislature, who was born into wealth, not the kind of Ken Griffin wealth, but other wealth, whose father is a bomb throwing, terror supporting professor in Colombia, whose mother was a documentarian, quote unquote, subsidized by the Qatari monarchy, and of course, cair, a front group for Hamas, a terrorist organization. They're all in For Mondami and of course, Barack Obama. You know, I think he's really extraordinary. He's an extraordinary politician. Obama was always the radical. He was always the commie. Yes, he was. He always hid it, but that's what who he is and who he was, rather. And that's it. How can you call this guy an extraordinary leader? He's already bankrupting the city. And all of you people there know it. And all of you people there know he's going to massively increase your property taxes if he can get away with it. And all you people know he's chasing out these billionaires. Let me tell you a little secret. The billionaires make up 1/10 of 1% of the population, even if that much, and they pay 50% of the taxes. Wow. Chase them out. They're leaving the city. Some are staying in New York, but they're not in New York City. Some are going to New Jersey, but most are leaving. They've made a decision. All right, I'm out of here. Let's go to Florida, Texas, Tennessee. They want us. They treat us right. We'll create jobs there. We'll create a bigger tax base there. So when you have these Marxist Islamist ideologues, they don't know how commerce works. What is capitalism? You see, everything for them is defined by Karl Marx. Karl Marx was a moron. Karl Marx had a deeply flawed, defective idea of human nature, a defective idea of how capitalism that the word he invented actually works. As I told you last night, as I've discussed on my video podcast on several occasions now, capitalism is nothing more than voluntary commerce. That's it. Nobody invented it. It's spontaneous. People create things. They sell things. People take that money and they buy things. That's been going on since humanity began. It's called commerce. And the freer the commerce, the freer the people, and the freer the commerce, the more prosperity you create for the more people. You don't have somebody sitting there telling everybody who's going to do what, how much they're going to make, if they're making too much and so forth and so on. Any nimrod can say something like that. And that's exactly what this guy is. That's why you get an aoc. That's why you get a Mandami. That's why you get a Bernie Sanders. Between the three of them. Between the three of them, they've never held a. A job that creates wealth. Never. Never. They destroyed jobs. AOC kept Amazon out of her district, out of New York City. They were going to create 5,000 jobs. Mr. And so they didn't go, they went somewhere else. This guy, Ken Griffin, I want you to listen to what he says. Cut eight. Cut eight. Go. So where does that leave us at 350 Park? That leaves us with the fact that we went to Miami and revised our building plan to make it a bigger office building.

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You're bailing.

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So what do we do at 350 is still a point of discussion internally, but what is no longer a point of discussion is that Miami is now. You know, when we moved from Chicago, there was a debate between New York and Miami. It's un, unquestionably true that we made the right. I'll leave it at that. It's unquestionably true that we made the right choice. And now. And now what the mayor of New York has made clear to me. So the choice was Miami, but then he was going to build this massive facility in New York in the middle of New York, apparently, he's not going to do it anymore. Whatever he's going to do is going to be mightily downsized or not at all. Go ahead. My New York partners, My New York partners is that we need to double down on our bet in Miami because we want to be in a state that embraces, that embraces business, that embraces education, that embraces personal freedom and liberty, and that embraces people having an opportunity to live the American dream. Well, if you don't believe in America and Mondame doesn't, then you don't believe in the American dream, do you? More. Cut nine. Go. Speaking of warm greetings, I was going to do this, wanted to do this interview outside your apartment, but I thought it would be creepy and weird. So how did you feel about the mayor's little video?

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It was creepy and weird.

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Agree. I mean, like, knock, knock, knock on the window, like, huh? Mayor of New York City knocked on the screen. Yeah. Yeah. On the screen, like, yeah. How many times have you watched that video? A3.3. What are you gonna do about it? I couldn't help myself. You had to what? I had to go back and look at it again. I mean, like, you literally look at the first time and you're like, you gotta be kidding me. Okay. And then the second time you're like, you know what? This is actually. This has gone from creepy to actually, not really creepy. This has gone frightening because the CEO of United Healthcare was killed just a few blocks from my house. And anything that creates an agitation in the extremist on either side of the aisle is a frightening dynamic. That's true, very true. Nonetheless, Mandami at a press conference yesterday, he will not be moved because he's a Marxist Islamist ideologue. Cut seven. Go. Ken Griffin yesterday was speaking about calling your video again. He called it creepy and weird, said that again that you targeting him has just been very unfair. And he said that he's going to be doubling down his investments in Florida rather than New York York City. And so I just wanted to get your take. What sort of conversations have you had with him since that video? Have you spoken with him?

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And what sort of concerns are you

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having when it comes to potential job losses? Are you looking at ways to, I guess, build up? So I'll, I'll first just start by saying that I want all New Yorkers to succeed. That includes business owners and entrepreneurs who create good paying jobs, who make the city the economic engine not just of our state, but frankly of our country. And that also includes Ken Griffin, who is a major employer in our city. That does not negate the fact, however, that our tax system is fundamentally broken. It rewards extreme wealth while working people are pushed to the brink. Now, with all due respect, and I don't live in New York, but that's not true. When I look at the data, 50% of the taxes paid are paid by the wealthiest. And yet many of you who aren't the wealthiest in New York, you're still paying through the nose, right? So something is wrong. Not with the tax system. Something is wrong with guys like him. It's the politicians who create the tax system. And these Democrats are killing your city, killing it. They hate business, they hate entrepreneurship. I don't care if you're running a pizzeria, which is not easy, or you have a little plumbing outfit or electrical outfit or something like that. It's hard to run anything anymore in New York City. The regulations, the red tape, unbelievable. The health department, unbelievable. Everybody tells me the property taxes through the roof, the business taxes through the roof, the sales taxes, everything else. So people aren't going to buy there, they'll buy somewhere else. And less and less people are going to go there because he's undermining law enforcement and security too. He's chasing out the successful people. And they're not all billionaires. They're a lot of working people. He's chasing them out. He's pushing them out. He's pushing out groups he doesn't like, like Jews. He's pushing them out. This is all planned. It's all planned. He doesn't Care about the vitality of New York. I want you to think about this. What is his voter base? His voter base isn't businessmen, small or large. His voter base isn't blue collar workers. His voter base. Not the cops and the firefighters. Not the emergency personnel. The voter base. It's not the plumbers. It's not the electricians. It's not the roofers and the other construction workers. What's his voter base? Welfare recipients. Wealthy ideologues, leftists, many of whom inherited their wealth. They're bringing in as many illegal aliens as they can, as many Islamists as they can. This is his base. It's not you. It's not you. Terrible. Then there's aoc, another genius. Cut six. Go. There's a certain level of wealth and

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accumulation that is unearned, right?

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You can't earn a billion dollars. That's right. You just can't earn that. Listen, this. This Ileana Glaser is another moron. I don't know who she's with. Does it really matter? And hat tip Breitbart picking this up. Now let's think about what this doofus said. She knows nothing about commerce. Zero. She knows about pouring drinks. And you know what? I have some friends, restaurant I go to. Bartender. Smart as hell. She's dumb as can be. Dumb as can be. There's a certain level of wealth and accumulation that is unearned. That is unearned. You can't earn a billion dollars. You just can't earn that. What does that even mean? If you invent something and 310 million people in this country want to purchase it, you become a billionaire. If you create a service and people get used to it and they want to use it and the price is right, you become a billionaire for 300 and some million people. Some of our greatest industries that created the great middle class resulted in men becoming multi billionaires. Look at Apple and our computers. Look at Microsoft. Look at how the automobile industry began. How did we get electricity? Housing developments, affordable housing. I could go on and on. Food companies. People become wealthy not because they're stealing from anybody. They create wealth. They create prosperity. Everybody can't be a billionaire. Everybody can't be a multimillionaire. But people can be comfortable. And we have more people who are comfortable in this society than in any other place on the face of the earth. Not because of Marxism, not because of socialism, not because of Islamism, but in spite of all of them. I'll be right back. Paying 70, 80, $90 a month to big Wireless for unlimited data is insanity. Especially when Pure Talk, my wireless company, is going to give you unlimited high speed data for just 34. 99amonth. Unlimited high speed data at Pure Talk used to start at 55 bucks a month. But because Pure Talk is constantly pushing to give you more for less, you can now get unlimited high speed data for just34.99amonth. So if you've looked at Pure Talk before and you didn't make the move, please check them out again. And if you're wondering, is Pure Talk's network really as good as the overpriced big guys, try it out for 30 days. With no contract, no cancellation fees, you have nothing to lose. 30 days. Check it out. Their US customer service team is standing by to help you switch in as little as 10 minutes. Go to PureTalk.com Levin that's PureTalk.com L E V I N to claim unlimited high speed data. Just 34. 99. Again, that's PureTalk.com Levin L E V I N switch to my wireless company, America's wireless company, PureTalk. Again, that's PureTalk dot com Levin. All right, by the way, Harry Anton on CNN today, for those who keep trying to destroy Donald Trump, his reputation, his polling numbers, some of the crazy podcasters, I want you to listen to this. Cut 10 go. As Indiana goes, so goes the nation when it comes to Republican voters. And Donald John still has the juice. And when you're a Republican and you go against Trump, you get voted off the island. I always love Survivor. And in this particular case, what we saw in Indiana was, you go, adios,

[B]

amigos, goodbye, see you later. And to me, that is emblematic of

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what we see nationwide with Republicans. I think there's this myth that's going on right now that, oh, Trump is really losing support among Republicans. But compared to other midterm cycles, he's

[B]

just as popular with Republicans as he has ever been.

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Hmm. Hugely popular. All right, we've got a lot more. We're gonna slide over to the west coast with a lot popping over there. We'll be right back. Paying 70, 80, $90 a month to Big Wireless for unlimited data is insanity. Especially when Pure Talk, my wireless company, is going to give you unlimited high speed data for just 34.99amonth. Unlimited high speed data at Pure Talk used to start at bucks a month, but because Pure Talk is constantly pushing to give you more for less, you can now get unlimited high speed data for just 34.99amonth. So if you've looked at Pure Talk before and you didn't make the move, please check them out again. And if you're wondering is Pure Talk's network really as good as the overpriced big guys, try it out for 30 days with no contract, no cancellation fees, you have nothing to lose. 30 days. Check it out. Their US customer service team is standing by to help you switch in as little as 10 minutes. Go to PureTalk.com Levin that's PureTalk.com Levin. To claim unlimited high speed data. Just 34. 99. Again, that's PureTalk.com Levin L E V I N Switch to my wireless company, America's wireless company, PureTalk again, that's PureTalk.com Levin. Mark Levin says today what the backbenchers will Repeat tomorrow. Coal market. 877-381-3811. Well, there's a lot going on on the other coast too. There's a lot going on on the other coast. Spencer Pratt is running for mayor of LA against Karen Bass. Karen Bass has been a disaster in every respect. She like the governor, couldn't get water and fire hydrants. You may recall what a disaster Karen Bass was also a big fan of Fidel Castro, you might recall with her visit to Cuba. Well, Spencer Pratt is a real guy and they debated yesterday. I want you to listen to him because he hit it out of the park. Cut 15. Go. First off, inside safe.

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I like to say inside safe makes

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all of us outside unsafe. The reality is no matter how many beds you give these people, they are on super meth, they are on fentanyl. The DEA statistics says 93% of this is a drug addiction problem. Nithya, Councilwoman Robins plan for treatment. First I will go below the Harbor Freeway tomorrow with her and we can find some of these people she's going to offer treatment for. She's going to get stabbed in the neck. These people do not want a bed. They want fentanyl or super meth. These ideas cost us over $400 million to house. What did he say? 3,000 people for 400 million. This is absolute failure for both of them. They're a team. I think what you learn from this man is just speak in plain English and speak the truth. And speak the truth. These people come up with these highly paid operatives who tell them how to phrase things and so forth. Just speak the truth. Cut 16, go. This is a yes or no question, an answer. So there's an LA council member, he

[B]

wants voters to decide.

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He is saying that non citizens should they be allowed to vote in local elections. Is this a yes or no, Mr. Pratt? No, Mayor Bass. It depends. It's not a yes or no. Depends on what? Well, first of all, when you say non citizens, it doesn't mean they're here. Illegal. It doesn't mean they're undocumented. They could have green cards.

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They could be here.

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Perfectly legal. And there's a lot of states and cities that do that on very, very local elections. We have to see what the councilman is proposing. Councilmember Bremen. Yeah, I would say, again, it does depend. In other places, school boards have non citizens. Non citizens who voted for Mr. Fred, I have a question for you. Residents who vote for NBC News. Mm. Liberals never can just give a straight answer, can they? Shut the hell up either. So what they're trying to say is yes. They want people who are non citizens to vote. Now, we know that's what the Democrats are up to. They want to work their way from the bottom up. Localities, bigger cities, counties, states. Of course. Of course they support that. They've created this. This disaster when it comes to immigration, haven't they? Yes, they have. Mm. Let's see here. Now we have in Tennessee. And you can thank Scamberger, the governor of Virginia. A liar, a fraud who ran as a modern and as a hardcore leftist in every respect. Every respect. She blew out the Republicans a 6 to 5 state to 10 to 1. I believe that's still in front of the state supreme court. You can blame Massachusetts, where they blew out every single Republican representative. There are none. You can blame Maryland. They blew out all Republican representatives but one. You can blame New England. Six of the states in New England that have 32 representatives, none of whom is a Republican. Zero. Zero. You can blame California. That's. That's wanting only four Republicans out of, what, 52 seats. And we can go on and on, can't we? So Texas struck back at California. Before it had four. It had nine, which was ridiculous. And Illinois had already struck three or four Republican seats. That's it. And these other states I mentioned, it already struck. So the great Governor Abbott said, okay, we're going to strike back. And he did. Then Virginia struck. Excuse me, with Scamberger, a fraud and a phony and a fool. And she did what she did, which is still in the courts, in the state courts, the Supreme Court. So Tennessee said, look, we've had a huge influx of population since the census was taken, and we have one Democrat district. And with a slight adjustment, a slight modification, we can do what Massachusetts did. We can do it all. Six New England states did. We can do better than Virginia. We can do better than Maryland. Only one Republican in each state. We'll get rid of the one Democrat. This is what the Democrats have done. This is what the Democrats have done. So that was done today. That was done today. The one Democrat seat in Tennessee was blown out. They're now all Republican seats. The Democrats started this. I don't like it. But ladies and gentlemen, when they're playing dirty, the Republicans can't play pretty. It just doesn't work. And there's too damn much at stake. There's just too damn much at stake. Now we're going to have Governor DeSantis on the program at the top of the hour next hour, 8pm Eastern. We're going to have at the bottom of the hour, next hour, 8:30pm Eastern. The governor of Texas. There are other things going on in both states as well, and we'll get into that, that these are the two great, in my view, Republican governors. They really are. And I do think they're presidential material. I absolutely do. And I believe in a vigorous Republican primary when you don't have an incumbent. I strongly believe in that. Don't read anything into it. I'm not attacking anybody. But Republicans need a choice. And you got to go through a Republican gauntlet to make sure you're ready for a general election for president of the United States because the other side is filled with vile, vicious, evil individuals who will do and say anything to try and destroy you and defeat you. So you got to get through the primary. No coronations. You saw what happened with Kamala Harris. You saw what happened with her. She wasn't ready, but she'll never be ready. By the way, I hope they do nominate her. I really do. Don't you, Mr. Producer? Although I got to say Christopher Rufo has done a number on Newsom and he's not done. You want to watch that on Saturday's Life, Liberty and Levin to 8pm Eastern on Fox. You're going to want to watch that, too. You know, folks, I know the cost of medical insurance is through the roof. I know deductibles are through the roof. Premiums are through the roof. I know that's true. I know a lot of you are still paying a tremendous amount of money on your credit cards and you can't catch up. You can't pay down the balance enough and the interest keeps running. And a lot of you have decent incomes. But between, you know, your mortgages, your property taxes, income taxes, depending on the state, you live in federal income taxes and then this. You can be underwater very easily. And in summertime, if you want to take a vacation, right? 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[B]

like Jamie Raskin and I will be

[A]

leading investigations into, into Trump's corruption, into all of the cabinet officials and this gross abuse of power. And we will get to the bottom

[B]

of a lot of it.

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We will reveal it and it will become transparent. And I think part of what people seem to think. Shut up moron. This is how they hope to win 20, 28 endless so called corruption investigations. Tie up and tie down the administration, go after their cabinet secretaries create this image and the psychology that the administration is corrupt when the 2028 election because they can't run on their issues. Their issues are so crazy ass, so radical. You see them playing out in New York City, you see them playing out in Los Angeles. You see them playing out where they have control disaster after disaster after disaster. Notice they don't even tell you what are their top three or four or five issues. What are they? Open borders. What are they? Right. What are they? They don't tell you. That's why we have to have a very vigorous primary in 2028. My humble opinion. And may the best man or woman win. We'll see how that plays out. But this is their game. This is their plan. And I hate to say this, I'm not looking forward to it. I'm getting a little old for this. But there's nobody better at combating these people legally and constitutionally than me, your host. I'll be right back. You know, there comes a point in life when sleep stops being optional. And for a long time you're running on fumes, taking care of work, kids and relationships. But eventually you realize that how you sleep affects everything. Your energy, your mood, your focus, your overall health. At some point you stop chasing trends and start investing in comfort that actually lasts. That's exactly where bowl and Branch comes in. Their bedding is designed for that kind of rest. Real restorative sleep. From their signature organic cotton sheets to plush pillows, breathable blankets and temperature regulating comforters, everything works together to support better sleep. Before bowl and Branch, my bedding was fine, but I noticed the difference immediately after switching. The sheets are unbelievably soft, they're breathable and somehow get even better every time they're washed. So upgrade your sleep with bowl and branch. Get 15% off your first order plus free [e-mail] Levin with code Levin that's Bowl and branch. B O L L and a n d branch.com Levin bolandbranch.com Levin Code Levin to unlock 15% off exclusions. Applying he's here. He's here now. Broadcasting him from the underground command post deep in the bowels of a hidden funkin somewhere under the brick and steel of a nondescript building.

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We've once again made contact with our leader, Mark Levin.

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Hello America. Mark Levin here. Our number 8773-8138-1187-7381-3811. We're pleased to have America's governor, Governor of Florida, Ron Desantis how are you, Governor?

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Oh, I'm living the dream, man. How are you?

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Doing great, Doing great. Now, I see in Tennessee, the governor there in the legislature, they acted and they did what Massachusetts has done, what six states in New England have done, and of course, they're responding to Virginia, as you were, and they eliminated the one Democrat seat in Tennessee, and they're howling like stuck pigs there. But they started this. Tell me about. Tell the country about Florida, how you came about and how you did what you did.

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Well, I think we're a little bit different than some of those other cases because I've been fighting on this redistricting for years now. So in 2022, I vetoed the legislature's map and we ended up getting the map that we had there because there was racial gerrymandering. And I was able to get one of the racially gerrymandered districts dismantled. The legislature at the time, some of the leaders like, oh, it's not going to hold up in court. And of course, here we are four years later, and it's been validated and approved. We had another racially gerrymandered district in that same map that they said, well, the Voting Rights act requires this. And so if you don't do it, our map's going to get struck down. So it's kind of a compromise. The jurisprudence hadn't necessarily evolved. And as the jurisprudence evolved, I saw Calais was coming. I called this special session. I did the proclamation in January. I had no idea what Virginia was going to do because I knew that you would likely have an Alito opinion saying that racial gerrymandering was unconstitutional. And so we had the legislature in for special session, and the media is like, oh, you claim that the court was going to rule this. Why are we in for this? And literally, as they were debating the new map, the Kalay decision came down and we were right on it. And so now we've completely dismantled racial gerrymandering. But we also, when they drew this map, in addition to doing that, you got to use the 2020 population numbers. But when they made choices about how to draw different districts, and ours are all compact and nice, not like Virginia or that they're. They're traditional redistricting rituals. But, mark, we've gained 2 million people since 2020. The map that we had was just out of date. So I feel like I support what Tennessee did. I support Alabama, these other states doing it 100%. But Florida, you know, we needed to do a mid decade redistricting, both because of the elimination of the racial gerrymander. And because it's just a different state than it was four or five years ago.

[A]

And the in the Commerce Department, the Census Bureau stole two seats or three seats from you too, didn't they?

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100%. So when President Trump was leaving office the first time, his Commerce secretary said, you're going to get at least two seats. And people always say when I complain about this, like Trump conducted the census while you playing Biden. Yes, they did the census. Biden came in, he issued a series of executive orders about how to handle the census data. And the way they did it, I believe they manipulated the data so that Florida only got one seat. Just think about that. Ten years we only got one seat. Meanwhile, some of these other states were getting and others that were supposed to lose, that were blue didn't. Biden's own Commerce Department, a couple years after they issued the reapportionment decision in 2021, they acknowledged that Florida should have had at least one more seat. So, so even Biden acknowledged that a fair count would have led to Florida have another and Texas should have had another. And I think maybe one or two other red states as well. So this is just the reality. I had hoped that maybe the Trump Commerce Department could find a way to maybe redo that, but it's tough. I get it. But the reality is Florida, we did get shortchanged and we were not fairly apportioned.

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Now, with this decision from the Supreme Court, there are going to be other changes across the country. Now, you're a top lawyer, too, including in obviously Louisiana and some of these other states. And the Democrats are jumping up and down about that, too. They really have had the courts go their way. They have twisted the law and they've used gerrymandering to the max. And now the Republicans are finally pushing back. Am I right?

[B]

Well, yeah. I mean, think about it. I mean, you're a constitutional scholar. You understand voting rights in, like the 15th Amendment and implementing legislation. That's you as an individual, if you're eligible citizen, all that, you have a right to go vote. They can't discriminate against you. They can't say, you know, Mark Levin has to take, you know, a literacy test because we think he's going to vote the other way. But, but, but, you know, this guy can just go in that. I think we all support that. Like people that are eligible to vote have a right to go in and not have that right abridged. But what that had been kind of bastardized that that idea into, well, you have a right to elect what they say, the candidate of your choice. And what that basically means is that you, you draw usually majority black districts so that they can elect a majority black Democrat. It's interesting. If a district like that would elect a black Republican, the liberal courts back in the day would have said that that was somehow an abridgment of the voting rights. And so it was all about trying to engineer the election of candidates that look the specific way. That is not the way any of that was ever designed. And I think Alito brought it back to reality. I think Justice Thomas got it right in his concurrence to just say this has no application to redistricting at all. Nevertheless, the Alito opinion was very powerful. And so now we're in a situation where you draw district lines. You're not trying to socially engineer. Everyone who is American citizen, is 18 has a right to vote, but you don't have a right to elect a candidate that looks like you. That's not the way a free society works.

[A]

Now you were talking, I have been talking about potentially reducing or eliminating property taxes, which obviously is the power of a county. So you need to amend your constitution. How's that going?

[B]

We are going to have a special session with the Florida legislature within the next two months, maybe even this month, to put the question on the ballot. Florida residents will be able to vote for it in November. But the reason we need to do so and what we're doing, Florida has this homestead system. So you know, if you have a home, you can, you claim homestead and it does give you some good protections. It's judgment proof, all these other things. Some people own multiple properties. You only get one homestead. So what it is is your homestead should be tax free. And the reason why it's doable is because homestead property tax revenue is about 30% of all property tax revenue in Florida. But since 2019, the revenue these governments have taken in has gone from 32 billion to 60 billion.

[A]

It's crazy.

[B]

We've had population growth, we've had inflation, no doubt. I totally get how the revenue would go up from 32, given the scenario that we face in Florida with population growth and in America with the inflation. But 60 billion and people say, oh well, you can. We're not going to have services. Did we not have services when they were taken in 32 billion seven years ago? Oh, yeah, no, we did. Of course we did. So the growth of the revenue by them assessing property hire has been a real problem. It stunts the real estate market because people don't necessarily want to sell their homes if their tax basis is going to dramatically increase. And I think it hurts young people in particular to be able to realize the dream of homeownership. So we have the capacity to do it. We're kind of in a unique situation because we have so many people who are not homesteaded, Florida residents who own property, including very valuable property. We got people from Brazil, we have people from Canada, people from other states. So we have the tax basis that is enough to be able to get this done. So we'll be on the ballot. People should be prepared for that. We couldn't do it anytime before because it requires a vote of the people. So that'll get done. And, you know, I think it's going to be a big incentive for people to come out and vote in the midterms. I think it's going to increase energy on the Republican side as well as with Republican leaning independents.

[A]

It's so important because even in the county, I live in, Martin county, it's a heavily Republican county. I just see the spending going through the roof on these teachers contracts and other things. Because the money just keeps flowing in, Governor. It just keeps flowing in, flowing in. New money, new, new money. And it's like if we don't raise taxes or we don't spend the money, you know, we're not, we're going to lose it. And it's just crazy with some of these.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's the mentality. And think about it. There are areas, a lot of areas in Florida where the homes, particularly as you get into kind of upper middle class, where they have tripled in value over the last seven years. And so those assessments go up and up and up. And so a home that was, you know, someone was paying $3,000 a year for property tax in 2019, now you may be paying $10,000 in property tax. And so the question is, is how is that fair? How is that sustainable? But where is all the money going? And I can tell you've been coming down to Florida for a long time. I was born and raised here. You're not going to see a very big difference between the services that were provided in 2019 versus 2020, 26. All this revenue, all the new spending really hasn't, hasn't really altered the quality of life in Florida. And actually the state government's a good example, Mark. We have this year are spending less than we did last year, and last year spent less than the year before. And yet we're doing massive Infrastructure, environmental, Everglades restoration, law enforcement, bonuses, teacher, all different things. But we're doing it with a budget that's less than half of the budget of New York State, even though we have 4 million more people than the you. So you can do the things you need to do to serve the public with a stable budget. Not having the revenue go up by almost 100% in seven years.

[A]

I remember long ago Proposition 13, you might even be too young for that in California. And Jarvis, Howard Jarvis was pushing Reagan, got behind it and it was a cap on property taxes. And I remember they went nuts out there. You can't do that. You can't do. Well, it passed. And the only people who hurt somewhat were the people in the government. And the government had to figure out once and for all how they were going to manage their resources. But it doesn't seem to have stopped them out there, does it, Governor? They're going crazy anyway.

[B]

But what's happened is they've watered that down of years. You know, Art Laffer was involved in that. That was a huge taxpayer revolt. And all the power, most of politicians, business, community, labor, all that, they were all against it, but the people were for it. But what happened was the local governments lost some revenue to start, but everything boomed. So in four or five years, they were getting the same revenue that they got before the prop even passed because of changes in the economic base. And I think you'll see the same thing in the state of Florida. But yes, they were saying, you're not going to have police, you're not going to have schools, you're not going to have any of this stuff. And obviously that wasn't true. And we're seeing the same. You'll see the same rhetoric in Florida. But I think people, at this point, half the voters are like, I need the relief. I want it. I don't care. And then the other, you know, we need 10 more percent. I think they're just like, as long as it's feasible, I want to do it. And the numbers, when I sketch it out like that, everybody acknowledges that this is something that not only can be done, but. But should be done. And incidentally, we are doing good work for the taxpayer on these unions, the public unions. I just signed a bill two weeks ago that provides for the decertification of partisan teacher unions. You know, they get money from local government and they spend it for the union, not on the teachers, and not in ways that benefit education. That's been a huge distortion in the system to the detriment of taxpayers for a long time. These are now zombie organizations in Florida, and many of them are going to end up fully decertified in short order.

[A]

Governor DeSantis, let me tell you something, and I talked to friends down there. What are we going to do when you're not there anymore? You know, we don't have to wake up in the morning and wonder, you know, like you do in Virginia, what the hell are they going to do to me today? Because people trust you to watch their backs. They know you're a man of liberty, a man of the private sector. You believe in law enforcement. You're not going to do weird stuff. In fact, you're going to do great stuff. So what are we going to do without you? Do you have any plans in mind that you can speak of or you're thinking about it?

[B]

Well, look, my view is I'm going to be very active all the way until my term expires. I mean, I have, you know, less than a year, but there's still a lot of time to do a lot of big things, including property tax. So we're going to do it. And that's just my focus. I mean, look, I know people talk about, oh, you should do this, you should do that, and I'm flattered that people talk about this stuff, but I'm the governor of the third largest state in this country, I would argue the most important Republican state in this country, given the political transformation that's happened since I've been governor, the state that's led on all these issues, you know, for the last seven years, that is really, really important. And so I have an opportunity to see it through, to put more points on the board, and we'll do it. But my hope is, because we've defeated the left so thoroughly, teacher unions, liberal professors, on and on it goes, we've won these big battles. I think it's going to be very difficult for the left to storm back in the free state of Florida and ultimately winning a superficial policy fight. Not that that's not good, but all. But we've beaten them at an institutional level. They don't have power in this state anymore like they did even 10 years ago. And that's a good thing for individual liberty.

[A]

And, man, if you get this property tax thing done, I think everybody, even from other red states, are going to be moving into Florida because it'll be incredible. Thank you. Best to your wife, your beautiful family. Hope to see you soon. I got to get back down there. That is my home. And God bless you, Governor. Be Safe.

[B]

Okay, thanks, Mark. Bye. Bye.

[A]

All right, you too.

[B]

Bye.

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Bye. Incredible, isn't it? He's talking about eliminating property taxes for homeowners. So if he achieves that, and that'll be up to the people of Florida, if they vote the right way, he's going to tee it up. And you live in the state of Florida, you won't be paying a personal income tax. And on your home, if it's your actual home, your residence, you won't be paying a property tax. I even think you, Mr. Producer, will leave New York and come down to Florida. No. Can you imagine that? And what he says is, look, it's not right. You're really paying two mortgages, you're paying your actual mortgage, you're paying the property taxes. Then maybe after 30 years, or maybe you pay off your mortgage early and then you got to pay these property taxes that keep going up and up and up and up because these counties are out of control and we, the state, have no control over it. So we need to have a constitutional amendment that deal with this. And you're going to hear all the squeaking and the squawking and the screeching. But I think there's enough smart people in the state of Florida that they will vote for this. You'll see the Democrats and the other politicians, the public sector unions and so forth. But he said there's enough to pay the cops, the firefighters, the teachers, everybody there is enough. But I can tell you from my own experience there in a Republican county, it's a beautiful county. I love the county very, very much. And I'm glad it's Republican and not Democrat. But they spend like drunken Marxists. They really do. They spend and they spend and they spend. We'll be right back. Mud la vent Foreign. Epic fury intensifies. The world braces for what's to come next. And people of faith pray for freedom and for God's people in the Holy Land to be protected. And in the Holy Land. Red alert sirens fill the air. Sirens that give you only 15 seconds to reach the nearest bomb shelter. The situation is serious. The threat is real. And in times like this, freedom and faith aren't just abstract ideas. They are what we depend upon. And the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is on the ground preparing large scale distributions of life saving food, first aid, emergency essentials for security personnel, while helping ensure hospitals and emergency rooms and shelters are stocked with critical medical supplies. This aid is focused on Israel's most vulnerable. The sick, the elderly, children, families in great need. But the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews need your most generous gift today to make this work possible. So please rush your gift, which is tax deductible, by calling right away. 888-585-IFCJ. That's 888-585-IFCj. Or online at levin for the fellowship.org. that's levin for the fellowship.org. Isn't that a remarkable governor? And yes, he would be a great president. Did I just say that, Rich? Does anybody know anybody who's more conservative than him? Me. No. And down the line, man. Down the line. And the next guest, the next governor, same thing. It's a big state, Texas. And the Democrats are really trying to take it over with open borders. They're really trying to take it over with these Islamist centers. And I want to talk to the governor about that. I want to talk to him about this group care, where there's litigation going on. And I want to remind you that he really jumped into the pool when he took on California on the, on the allotment and the assignment of congressional districts. So these are two of the best governors in the country, I argue, two of the best governors ever. And we need them. These are the two biggest Republican states, Texas and Florida. We'll be right back. What would you do if your online store converted 36% more shoppers?

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It's an honor to have the governor of Texas Governor, Governor Abbott. He's stepped out of an event, so we're very pleased that he can join us even for a short period of time. Governor, welcome. And I wanted to discuss with you the litigation with this group care, which is really a Hamas front group. Can you fill us in on this?

[B]

Sure. So what instigated this litigation is the Texas legislature recently gave the governor in Texas a new tool, and that is to designate certain organizations as foreign terrorist organizations. And learning what I learned about cair, I used that tool to designate CAIR as a foreign terrorist organization. And you know full well why that designation is deserved. But CAIR took offense and they filed a federal lawsuit. Trying to overturn my designation. When we got into the lawsuit, we said, you know, we are going to use this opportunity to prove to the world exactly what CARE has done.

[A]

Beautiful.

[B]

And so we issued discovery requests to have CAIR turn over every bank record, every financial transaction, every person they've met, every time they've traveled to any foreign based terrorist country or location. And we're going to get access to all of their financial records that will show who they've given money to, who they got money from, what they paid for, what they have gotten paid to do. And this is the first time anybody has been able to dig this deeply into the CARE operations. And what happened this week is the federal judge in the court in which this case is pending granted our request to have CARE turn those documents over. And I think CAIR is in full on panic mode right now.

[A]

This is so critical for the entire nation, so critical for the entire nation what you're doing here, Governor, so important because this organization has gotten away with pretending to be a civil rights organization. When its CEO sat there in the Marriott Hotel in Philadelphia next to the international airport, they were bugged in that room. Part of the Holy Land foundation, unindicted co conspirators. And he's the one that hatched this idea that they would create this entity in the United States to get people elected, to get people on the courts, to get into the media. They've been hugely successful all over the country, in every state, in every city. This is very, very important. And I guess you got a pretty decent judge because some judges may not have ruled this way.

[B]

Well, this is a Trump appointed judge in Austin, Texas of all places, who ruled the right way. And so, Mark, what we've been is persistence. We have uncovered CARE for what they are, as you just articulated. And now we are exposing that for the first time to many people across our state and many people across the country. And some of the Holy Land litigation took place in the state of Texas. Convictions took place in Dallas, Texas. And so this is not the first time that there's been a legal interaction between the state and the federal government and CARE in Texas. And we're going pedal to the metal right now to uncover any type of transaction they've been involved in. Because we want to show the world they've been funding terror all these years. They've been funded because of their terror based actions. They've been consorting with terrorists in locations across the globe. And we are going to ensure that. My designation of them as a foreign terrorist organization is Going to be upheld.

[A]

Well, this is wonderful. And for some reason, the Democrat party and they work very closely together, which is very troubling. I know I only have a few minutes. Let me move on. Your state seems to be targeted other states too, by this movement of Islamists with these mosques that they're building outside of Plano, Texas, which I'm very, very familiar with. When I got out of law school, I actually started working for Texas Instrument. I don't know if I ever told you that. But nonetheless, what, what, what can be done about it? I never told you. There you go.

[B]

So you said, what can be done about it? Yeah, yeah. So we've taken action. And the, the first attempt to do this was called Epic City. And as soon as they got going, we found out that there were nothing but fraudulent negotiations and plans and actions on their part in trying to create this so called Epic City. And through state investigations by almost a half a dozen state agencies and through legal actions that were taken, we were able to eliminate Epic City and what their plans were. So what they did, they tried to rebrand themselves as the Meadow and got some different land and tried to build exactly on the meadow what they wanted to build on Epic City. Well, it turned out that they violated the law again and legal action has been taken against them, halting their ability to build the Meadow, halting their ability to build Epic City. And I signed a law banning organizations like this from creating Muslim or Islamic compounds, creating no go zones. That's not legal in the state of Texas now. So we're using the full force of the legislature of the law and law enforcement to make sure that we're not going to have any Muslim only communities, whether it be in the Epic City or elsewhere in the state of Texas.

[A]

Well, I want to thank you because they're trying to create these segregated communities throughout the country, politically located to have the biggest influence possible. It's all part of a national plan and they're all involved in groups like Care for that matter. And I know you have to run and we'll have you back one of these days. Governor, we're big fans of yours. God bless you, my friend.

[B]

Take care. Great one. Take care.

[A]

All right, you too. Be well. Man. We had governors like this in every state. You know what I mean? Rich in New York, you have a shot at getting at least getting Hochul out. And he sounded pretty good. And so we can hope for the best there, right? Bruce Blakeman sounded pretty good to me. We'll be right back.

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[B]

Thanks for taking my call. Longtime listener, second time caller. Here's my question. I'm getting discouraged about, you know, Trump's potential decision to take this deal. I'm using air quotes from Iran. My question is if he, if he makes a deal with them that does not include achieving the objectives he set out to do, is that a permanent stain on his legacy? One that is a disappointment to people who voted for him three times, like myself, and have watched him restore America as a superpower on the world stage and the faith in America for Americans. And so I'm just interested to hear your input on that. Thank you.

[A]

Well, you're welcome. I don't know yet because I don't know if there's a deal and I don't know what the deal is. That'll be very important. The details, if there is one. And number two, what I'll be looking for is how in the world are you going to monitor this? How are you going to enforce it? Because there have been efforts in the past to do exactly that. So what I've been doing is not attacking or anything of the sort. What I've been doing is saying here's my view. And my view is we're there. The military's there, our ships are there, our jets are there, our bombers are there. Let's get it over with. I don't believe they're going to go away 10 or 20 years. I don't believe they're going to stop in 10 or 20 years. I've explained why over and over again. And I can understand why people are disappointed or what have you, but no need to be yet because nothing in that regard has happened yet. And I'm hoping we can also count on the regime there to screw things up. There's a ceasefire right now in name only, I think as well, I'll put it that way, because they're still firing missiles, there's their little Mosquito fleet still running around there, the UAE still having to deal with it and so forth. So technically it's not there anymore. But we can call it whatever we want, we can call it a kumquat. But they don't act like a regime that wants a deal. But if they do want a deal, it's going to be a deal that's intended to, to be broken, in my humble opinion. So it'll be very interesting to me to see what it is and I hope there isn't one. Now that said, here's the deal. If there is something like that, what will the Democrats say? The Democrats will say he chickened out. The Democrats will say this is like Obama 2.0. Even if it isn't, the Democrats will say we didn't really achieve anything. There wasn't a, an imminent threat. You know, they're going to spin, spin, spin. So my advice is no, listen to what the Democrats say. Don't listen to what the woke. Right. Neo fascist isolationists say. Don't listen to what any of these people say, the media, because no matter what he does, it's going to be wrong. Including what I encourage our government to do. Just do the right thing, stay the course, finish them off, arm the people there. That's an essential element of this. If we don't do that, I don't know how we get rid of the regime. The people will rise up, they have risen up and they've been slaughtered. They need a fighting chance. We red blooded Yanks, we believe in arming freedom fighters. People who resist these tyrannies that want to destroy us. And we should do it. We've done it before, we did it under Reagan. It can be done. I don't know if the CIA is up to the task anymore. Bill Casey was up to the task. I just don't know what's going on. Maybe some of this is going on and it should go on. The President said the Kurds stole some weapons. I don't have any weapons the Kurds stole. So give them to somebody else to get to the people there. It can be done, it can be figured out. So we'll see. I don't know what's going to happen here. I give you my opinion here. I give you my opinion on the Liberty's Voice podcast. I hope you're listening to that on Rumble and YouTube and also of course on Fox. And I'm going to talk about this, my opening statement, my opening monologue on Saturday. You might want to check in there. And of course Sunday we're going to have General Keane and we're going to have Newt Gingrich. That'll be very important as well. But John, you're not the only one who's starting to be concerned or thinking this way and so forth and so on. I do know this. The Republican Party and MAGA conservatives are going to stand by the President so the base will stand with him. And if we take this to the full end of a, of a victory and we do that, the polls will follow, the politics will follow in a positive way if it's perceived as a non victory some way. And that's how the Democrats are going to try and define this. That could be a problem. We salute our armed forces, police officers, firefighters, emergency personnel, our truckers and ice. We thank you all and all of you great Americans. Thank you for all that you do each and every day. And I will see you right here tomorrow. God bless.

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