6/2/26 - Capitol Hill Clash: Rubio vs. Booker on Iran and National Security

Summary

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Mark Levin Podcast

Episode Date: June 3, 2026
Title: Capitol Hill Clash: Rubio vs. Booker on Iran and National Security
Host: Mark Levin (Cumulus Podcast Network)

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Overview

This episode centers on heated Capitol Hill debates regarding U.S. policy toward Iran, national security, and domestic political rifts. Mark Levin shares his commentary on key Senate hearings—particularly clashes between Senators Marco Rubio and Cory Booker—regarding the handling of Iran’s nuclear threat, sanctions, and American security. Supplementary discussions expand on topics like Democratic and progressive alliances with far-left activism, immigration policy, and the dangers of political violence. The episode closes with an interview featuring Noah Rothman, author of "Blood and A Century of Left Wing Violence in America," reflecting on historical and present radicalism.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Rubio vs. Booker: Senate Hearing Drama on Iran

• Rubio’s Critique:
  • Argues that the administration’s approach to Iran has weakened the U.S., placing America in a begging position to revive nuclear deals previously trashed by Democrats.
  • "We are the strongest nation on the planet Earth, and we're in a stalemate with Iran, and now we're begging to get back into a deal that you all trashed in the first place." — Senator Marco Rubio [04:22]
• Democratic Response:
  • Analysts refute claims that the U.S. is "begging" and emphasize Iran’s internal weaknesses—economic collapse, hyperinflation, and loss of military capability.
  • "Iran has no navy left. They've lost a substantial percentage of their defense industrial base. ... Their economy is far worse today." — Expert/Analyst [05:41]
• Levin’s Editorial:
  • Levies harsh criticism at Booker: "This guy, Cory Booker, has become a loudmouth, unhinged. He wants to run for president..." [02:44]
  • Suggests Democrats are “the enemy of a free and secure America.” [02:26]
• On Ballistic Missiles:
  • "They cannot have the capacity to make thousands and thousands of ballistic missiles because those can blow up our cities." — Levin [09:06]
• Sanctions and Ceasefire Enforcement:
  • Debates erupt over conditions for lifting sanctions and the feasibility of enforcing agreements with a regime bent on survival at any cost.
  • "We're going to have an agreement that the next administration ... can rip up because it's not going to be a treaty, apparently." — Levin [13:44]

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2. Current Iran Crisis: Escalation and Weaknesses

• Iran’s “Conventional Shield” Strategy:
  • Analysts explain that Iran’s ambition was to surround its nuclear project with overwhelming conventional arms (missiles, drones, navy), but recent U.S. operations have severely degraded this capability.
  • "The Iranian conventional shield has been substantially eroded." — Expert/Analyst [07:46]
• Ongoing Violence Despite Ceasefire:
  • Levin criticizes the administration and media for touting ceasefires that Iran continues to violate.
  • "This cease fire is more fire than cease. This enemy is not going to go away from some paper agreement. It's never honored a single paper agreement. Am I supposed to pretend otherwise?" — Levin [27:34], [74:55]

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3. Aid and Regime Change: On Arming the Iranian People

• Levin’s Solution:
  • Calls for providing arms to the Iranian people for regime change, referencing success against the Soviets.
  • "Then arm the people. They're asking for arms." [12:17]
• Personal Anecdote:
  • Levin recounts a woman's open plea from Iran: "Send us arms. Did you see that? I would guess she's late 30s, 40s ... professional woman, just put her life on the line." [12:29]

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4. Strategic Incoherence: Durability of Agreements

• Doubts about Enforceability:
  • Repeated skepticism about how U.S. deals with Iran can last: "How is this enforceable? What are we going to do? Have a permanent presence of one third of our navy there? That's not realistic." — Levin [13:35]
• Sanctions Relief:
  • Administration claims any sanctions relief will be "condition-based," but Levin predicts money will bolster the Iranian regime, not its people.
  • "It's going to go to the army, going to go to the IRGC, it's going to go to the security forces ... so it can sustain itself." — Levin/Ben [15:09]

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5. Left-Wing Media, Leaks, and Undermining Allies

• Axios Article & White House Leaks:
  • Levin denounces left-leaning Israeli reporter for spreading damaging leaks about U.S.-Israel relations, claiming they benefit Iran and Hamas.
• Policy on Terrorist Groups:
  • Critiques current negotiation attempts with Hezbollah and Iran.
  • "There was a time when it was official American policy that we didn't negotiate with terrorists or terror regimes. Now we seem to be negotiating with them and Hamas and Iran..." — Levin [18:55]

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6. Culture, Immigration, and Domestic Security

• Progressive/Marxist Influence:
  • Levin theorizes that left-wing elites and Islamists are attempting to change American cities—politically and demographically—to cement their influence.
  • "They want to change Americans and that means in many cases replacing them with outsiders." — Levin [46:50]
• Democrat Party Complicity:
  • Asserts the Democrats are intentionally promoting open borders and radicalism for political gain: "The Democrat Party is in on it, 100% in on it." [28:37]
• Critique of Open Borders & ICE Smears:
  • Harsh criticism of Tom Steyer, California billionaire and gubernatorial candidate, for calling ICE a "criminal organization":
  • "ICE is uncomfortable. And I take that as a compliment. ... You are a lowlife. You are a sewer dweller with the other rats." — Levin [64:30]

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7. Wave of Political Violence: Interview with Noah Rothman

• Historical Roots of Left-Wing Violence:
  • Noah Rothman outlines a history of leftist violence and the tendency for "progressive activism" to flirt with or employ force to drive change.
  • "The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." — Noah Rothman (quoting David Horowitz/SDS radical) [91:37]
• Democratic Party’s Relationship:
  • Rothman claims the Democratic Party often attempts to use radical forces for its own end but is ultimately rejected or used by them.
  • "They see in them zeal, passion, some kind of instrument of political utility that can be harnessed and wielded if they were clever enough." — Noah Rothman [92:17]
• Empathy and Lawlessness:
  • Points out the inversion of victim/victimizer in progressive circles leading to lawlessness and lack of prosecution.
  • "They see in the victimizer ... an agent with no control over his actions ... that begets lawlessness and violence, political or otherwise." — Noah Rothman [99:31]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Iran negotiations:
  • "We're begging to get back into a deal that you all trashed in the first place." — Sen. Marco Rubio [04:22]
• On sanctions relief:
  • "It's going to go to the army, ... the regime, so it can sustain itself." — Levin [15:09]
• On the narrative of defeat:
  • "Does this sound like a regime that thinks it's defeated? ... It is cockier than ever." — Levin [71:08]
• On political violence:
  • "The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." — Noah Rothman [91:37]
• On ICE and law enforcement:
  • "You have a man running for public office that says he believes ICE is a criminal organization. He is evil, he is diabolical. He is power hungry." — Levin [57:09]
• On American society’s future:
  • "Our generation has to take care of business so our children and grandchildren aren't exposed. That's the truth." — Levin [28:34]

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Timestamps: Important Segments

• Rubio vs. Booker, Iran Debate – [04:22]-[06:12]
• Iran’s Conventional Shield & U.S. Response – [06:23]-[09:06]
• Sanctions, Ceasefires, and Regime Change – [10:07]-[14:54]
• Axios Leak & U.S.-Israel Ties – [17:16]-[19:06]
• Left-Wing Ideology & City Transformation – [36:14]-[49:49]
• Mark Wayne Mullen Testimony on Border Security – [51:35]-[56:45]
• Tom Steyer, ICE Criticism – [57:28]-[68:34]
• Live Coverage: Escalation in the Gulf – [69:39]-[74:55]
• Noah Rothman Interview, Political Violence – [87:43]-[106:15]

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Final Thoughts

Without mincing words, Levin warns that American weakness and political infighting embolden foes abroad and radicals at home, viewing the central struggle as existential—for both republic and Western civilization. The call is for moral clarity, strong American resolve, traditional alliances (especially with Israel), and an unyielding defense of national sovereignty in the face of left-wing activism, Islamic radicalism, and foreign adversaries.

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Transcript

[Mark Levin]

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[Ben]

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[Ben]

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[Producer/Announcer]

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[Mark Levin]

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[Ben]

Oh, yes. You know, there's actually some good news out there. We have a breakthrough on cancer, pancreatic cancer. We've got other things. Very interesting. We'll touch on later. You know, despite the hard political nature of the left and the culture, what's going on, the invasion and all the rest, other parts of society marches on. Other parts of society, they it marches on. Now, I should tell you that we have a lot of testimony from Marco Rubio today. I'm not going to play it all, obviously, just a few aspects of it to see. So you see what's going on on Capitol Hill while most of you are working and how the Democrats really are the enemy of a free and secure America. They've done grave damage to this country the way the left wing parties have done grave damage to Europe. And the conservative parties in Europe are not that conservative anyway. They're about five notches to the left of American conservatives. But nonetheless, Rubio, Senate hearing today, and this guy, Cory Booker has become a loudmouth, unhinged. He wants to run for president. There's a couple of them that are positioning themselves already to run for president. I think you're going to have a fairly long conga line of these candidates and they're all going to be trashing Israel, Netanyahu, Americans and all the rest of it. So let's take a listen here. Rubio at the Senate hearing today, Booker questioning him. Cut three, go.

[Senator Rubio]

We have made our adversary in a stronger negotiating position. We are the strongest nation on the planet Earth, and we're in a stalemate with Iran, and now we're begging to get back into a deal that you all trashed in the first place.

[Expert/Analyst]

There's no one begging.

[Senator Rubio]

Clearly. This is a.

[Mark Levin]

Senator Booker. Senator Booker, your time's up.

[Ben]

Since he's.

[Expert/Analyst]

I do want to address some of these because they go to the heart of the matter. No one's begging for anything here. The Iranians might be begging because their economy is losing hundreds of millions of dollars a day that they are losing. Understand, Iran had street protests going on before all of this started. All of those factors, economic factors in Iran, are far worse today than they were six months ago when those protests were happening. They have hyperinflation. Their currency is completely devalued. They're struggling to make payroll for their government workers. Iran is in a very serious situation. And if it was up to the political class there, and I understand everybody there is sort of radical in some way, but if it was up to the people that actually, like, go to elections and wear the suits and you see on tv, they probably make a deal tomorrow, the issue they're facing is that the Supreme Leader and the IRGC corps are a little bit more immune from those pressures until they can be convinced otherwise. And I think that's the direction that they're moving in. Because the reality. I don't know where you're getting this perception that Iran is stronger. Iran has no navy left. They've lost a substantial percentage of their defense industrial base. Iran has lost a substantial percentage of their missile launchers.

[Senator Chris Murphy]

And.

[Expert/Analyst]

And their economy is far worse today, and I mean far worse today than it was six to nine months ago. And they are looking at hundreds of billions of dollars of reconstruction costs just to get to where they were six months.

[Senator Rubio]

Mr. Ruo, you keep telling us how we're winning this war. The President keeps saying, well, the war's over, completely annihilated. The war is not over. And yet the American people see how we're losing at the pump and with their costs, and yet this thing still hasn't been resolved. Every day he tweets out, oh, we've obliterated them, we've annihilated them. They're going to surrender, but yet we still find ourselves spending billions of dollars a week.

[Mark Levin]

Yeah, Senator, war abroad. You went on way over.

[Ben]

Interesting back and forth, Mr. Producer, cut four go.

[Expert/Analyst]

Let me just lay the predicate here, okay? Iran's desire to build a nuclear weapon was going to be built, was going to be effectuated. Behind a conventional shield. They were going to build for themselves so many missiles, so many drones, so many conventional weapons, including a navy, that at that point, there's nothing you could do about it. What they tried to do is they were going to try to build a conventional shield and hide behind that conventional shield and basically say to the world, if you come and do anything about our nuclear program, we will overwhelm you with missiles, we will overwhelm you with drones, and we will overwhelm you with our navy, and you will not win. You will not be able to do anything about it. They were seeking that point of immunity, which is why the President chose to act to deny them that point of immunity. Operation Epic Fury, some of you didn't like it, some of you did, was highly successful in achieving its military objectives, which is dramatically reducing the defense industrial base of Iran. The ability to build these missiles and to build these drones, especially the missiles program, substantially degraded a substantial percentage. And I'll leave the exact numbers to the Department of War, because I'm not a general and I'm not here to speak as a military planner, but a substantial degradation in the number of launchers that they have as well. They still have a lot of drones, because these are easy to make. We all know it's not an Iran challenge. This is a global challenge. And it's playing out every single day around the world. I mean, Mexican cartels are using UAVs against each other. We should imagine at some point, may even use it against our own, against our interest. So this is a pervasive problem around the world. The economics of it are something we have to solve for. But nonetheless, even their drone building capability has been eroded. Today, there is no Iranian navy. There is no such thing. There's a bunch of Boston Whalers with machine guns on them, but there is no navy. There is no Iranian navy. It lies at the bottom of the ocean and will soon, within a number of years, be prime fishing spots because they'll turn into reefs. So my whole point is that the Iranian conventional shield has been substantially eroded. Now, in the aftermath of that, two things have happened. The first is they entered into a ceasefire. They agreed, we agreed to stop. But part of that agreement was that they would reopen the straits. They did not. At which point the President decided, and I think appropriately, we can't have a world in which Iran, only Iranian ships get through the straits. And so if they're going to shut down the straits for everybody, we're going to shut down the straits for them. And we have done that through a very effective blockade and by the way, through the seizure of sanctioned ships in the Indo Pacific as well. The cost to Iran every single day in lost revenue is in the hundreds of millions of dollars that they are losing in lost revenue that they're not generating as a result of that.

[Ben]

I'm listening very attentively and I will comment after we're done here, only to say this conventional shield he's talking about, I haven't read anywhere that that's on the table in these negotiations. These ballistic missiles, you've heard me talk about it here, you've heard me talk about it on Fox, you've heard talk about it on my video podcasts, are their most powerful conventional weapon. And this is what some of the Arab countries are talking about. Israel's definitely talking about saying they cannot have the capacity to make thousands and thousands of ballistic missiles because those can blow up our cities. And I don't hear a lot of talk about that. And I talked about that in two monologues over the weekend on Fox. I've talked about it here, I've posted about it. I still haven't heard a lot about it. And yet Rubio does mention how significant that can be. Well, it is cut five. Go.

[Senator Chris Murphy]

But the president says they also need to make commitments on their nuclear program.

[Ben]

This is Chris Murphy, the lowlife. Start over, please. Go ahead.

[Senator Chris Murphy]

But the president says they also need to make commitments on their nuclear program. That's what I'm asking. What?

[Expert/Analyst]

Oh, I see what you're saying.

[Senator Chris Murphy]

What commitments do they need to make in order to. For the strait to be reopened?

[Expert/Analyst]

The second thing I have to agree to as part of this. So in addition to the straits, that's the predicate that opens the door to phase two. Phase two is they have to commit to very specific negotiations on highly enriched. The disposition of the highly enriched uranium that still is buried deep in a mountain somewhere. They have to. They have to.

[Ben]

You know, America, as I listen to this back and forth, I have to be honest with you. I'm always honest with you. I'm straight with you. That's why you're here, right? Sounds like a lot of talk from both sides here. This is a terrorist regime that wants to blow us off the face of the earth. We have them on their backs. Yes, we're killing their economy, but the regime lives on. They eat. It's the people who suffer. We keep saying they're going to rise up and yet we don't give them the tools with which to rise up in the past, the United States military did exactly that throughout the world to defeat the Soviet Union without a single ground troop in the Soviet Union, any of ours, that is. So if we're really going to put the pressure on them and really pinch them, in my humble opinion, we're not doing everything we should do, including arming the people. I've brought that up. And the Kurds come up. Okay. The Kurds say, no, we weren't given arms and we didn't steal anything. I know Erdogan in Turkey hates the Kurds, tries to eviscerate them. I know the Syrians hate the Kurds, try to eviscerate them. The Iraqis hate the Kurds, try to eviscerate them. These are good people who have fought side by side with us, just as the Israelis have fought side by side with us. And yet we seem to caves from time to time to the Arabs and even the Iranian demands. Do we want to win this thing or not?

[Mark Levin]

Then arm the people. They're asking for arms.

[Ben]

I have posted a video of a woman who has now put her life on the line, who held up a piece of paper. And you know what the paper said, Mr. Producer? You saw it.

[Mark Levin]

Send us arms. Did you see that? I would guess she's late 30s, 40s,

[Ben]

years old, looks like a professional woman, just put her life on the line.

[Mark Levin]

Because they barely opened up their Internet

[Ben]

and said, send us arms. Send us arms. I just don't get it. Is our CIA too weak? Under Bill Casey, it was strong. This is what we used to do in the Reagan administration. I don't understand it. I don't even understand the reason that's been given why we're not doing it. Open the Straits, okay? And we sign a deal with them. You know what can shut the Straits? Ballistic missiles. So what's the. What's the situation with that? I just feel like we go back and forth. We want them to do this. They have to agree to do this. They have to agree to do this. We have to agree to do this. How is this enforceable?

[Mark Levin]

What are we going to do?

[Ben]

Have a permanent presence of one third of our navy there? That's not realistic. That's not possible.

[Mark Levin]

We're going to have an agreement that

[Ben]

the next administration, our administration, can rip up because it's not going to be a treaty, apparently. So these are serious questions I'm asking not to attack, but to be helpful, positive questions. I'm asking about how this will work.

[Mark Levin]

Cut six.

[Ben]

Go ahead.

[Senator Chris Murphy]

In order to get to that second phase, are you willing to release sanctions or release frozen money that the United States is withholding from Iraq?

[Expert/Analyst]

No. Right now, everything that's been discussed with them is that any sanctions relief. Now, remember, sanctions come. There's international sanctions, there's congressional sanctions, there's executive sanctions. So some we can release and some we cannot. But any sanctions relief is condition based, which means it has to be in return for the reason why those sanctions were put in place in the first place.

[Ben]

Let's stop one moment. Just as a general matter, sanctions relief means they get money. Somehow the administration's indicated they don't want to give them cash because it looks too close to what Obama did. So somehow UAE releases money or somebody does, maybe Qatar, they lift sanctions, they can sell some oil. Where's that money going to go?

[Mark Levin]

Not going to go to the people. They just slaughtered 50,000 people. It's not going to go to the people.

[Ben]

It's going to go to the army, going to go to the irgc, it's going to go to the security forces.

[Mark Levin]

It's going to go to the regime

[Ben]

so it can sustain itself. That's where it's going to go.

[Mark Levin]

Right? Am I wrong about anything I'm saying? If you think so, feel free to call up. Am I wrong about anything I'm saying? I'm just using reasoning, common sense on what we're dealing with and how our

[Ben]

politicians act on these things. Go ahead, Graham.

[Expert/Analyst]

So, yeah, look, Iran is being sanctioned because they enrich uranium. Iran is being sanctioned because they've highly enriched uranium. Iran is being sanctioned because of their nuclear activities. If they agree to give up those things, there will be sanctions relief associated with their commitment and compliance with those agreements.

[Ben]

Chris Murphy should be there with a bag over his head. He should be embarrassed by himself. But some of these people don't know shame or circumspection. We'll be right back.

[Producer/Announcer]

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[Mark Levin]

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[Ben]

the smartest moves you can make for your financial future is gold and silver.

[Mark Levin]

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[Ben]

Let's touch on another subject, then we'll move on. And that is this report in Axios, which is a rather left wing news site by somebody named Barack Ravid who is a radical leftist. He's Israeli. He's written for the most left wing media outlets in Israel. And by left wing I mean radical left, couldn't hold jobs there. So he's picked up by Axios. And there's non stop leaks to this guy from people in the White House. We're trying to undermine the President. The relationship we have with the State of Israel and the Prime Minister there. And he's wrong all the time. And yet Axios keeps him on, doesn't fire him. His sources are always anonymous, always. They never correct the record at Axios. He never corrects the record. And this last leak that we talked about last night was very, very destructive to the President, to the Prime Minister, to our country, the State of Israel, and gave direct aid and comfort to the enemy, that would be Iran and Hamas.

[Mark Levin]

Furthermore, I don't think we should be talking to Hezbollah. That has killed hundreds of our soldiers, Marines and Americans.

[Ben]

It is a terrorist organization of the worst order. It has our American blood on its hands.

[Mark Levin]

There was a time when it was official American policy that we didn't negotiate with terrorists or terror regimes. Now we seem to be negotiating with

[Ben]

them and Hamas and Iran and all the rest.

[Mark Levin]

And where is it getting us exactly? I don't think very far. Now that said, that report and the foul language that was reported in that report was a lie. I'll be right back. I talk about protecting your liberty, your

[Ben]

family and your future.

[Mark Levin]

And right now I think one of the smartest moves you can make for

[Ben]

your financial future is gold and silver.

[Mark Levin]

Gold just had a pullback. You know what that means? It means you have a window, a real opportunity to get in at a lower price before the next move up. And it's coming. The fundamentals haven't changed. Washington keeps spending, inflation keeps eroding your savings and gold keeps doing what it's always done, holding its value when everything else is shaky. That's why I trust monetary gold. For 26 years, monetary gold has been the gold standard. For helping Americans own gold and silver in a tax sheltered retirement account. Five stars from the Better Business Bureau. Get help taking control of your retirement. Visit marklovesgold.com or call monetarygold at 877-now-gold for a one on one consultation. That's 877-now-Gold or marklovesgold.com performance may vary. Should always consult your financial and tax

[Producer/Announcer]

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[Ben]

Hamas agreed, according to the Saudis and others, not to launch any more rockets or drones at Israel. It was announced that they did and then they launched scores of rockets and drones at Israel. We've had a ceasefire on since April 8th. It's two months that's been violated every single day. Look folks, here's the thing. I'm a patriotic American. I'm 68 years old. My family came to this country now 125, 130 years ago. They fought in World War II. I can't pretend these things aren't going on. With a regime that wants to get nuclear weapons and tens of thousands of ballistic missiles that one day can reach us. That makes it clear that it wants to destroy our country in the west and Jews and Christians and anything in between. What am I supposed to do? Come up here like these other people, pretend otherwise, like these woke right types. I'm talking about the survival of our republic and I'm called a warmonger or magas under attack or whatever it is. It's really quite bizarre.

[Mark Levin]

Very sick.

[Ben]

And I deal with these people every

[Noah Rothman]

day

[Ben]

and they have a following and they're poisoning our the minds of so many of our fellow citizens and they're encouraging and emboldening the enemy overseas. It's not like talk radio or network TV, cable TVs all over the world. But more than that, the podcasting is all over the world. So the enemy takes great hope and encouragement from what these people are saying. The Megyn Kelly's, the Steve Bannons, the Tucker Carlson's. You've even heard the Muslim Brotherhood praise them.

[Mark Levin]

You've heard Iran praise them.

[Ben]

You've heard Qatar praise them, Saudi Arabia praise them.

[Mark Levin]

It's shocking. But I'm not going to sit here

[Ben]

and sell you a bill of goods or blow smoke at you that negotiating with terrorists who want to destroy us

[Mark Levin]

is a great idea.

[Ben]

I personally don't think so, that cutting

[Mark Levin]

a deal with them is a great idea.

[Ben]

The president knows what I think.

[Mark Levin]

The whole world knows that I Think

[Ben]

to the extent anybody cares, I don't

[Mark Levin]

think that's a great idea. And so what do you do? You have to destroy the regime. It wouldn't be the first time we as Americans have destroyed regimes that seek to destroy us, but apparently that's just not something we do anymore. And what's amazing to me is that people who want us to take a quote unquote off ramp or come up with some quick deal or something like that are the ones that keep talking about, we don't want any more forever wars. But if that regime is left standing in some form or some way, it's a forever war. That's what it is. And the isolationists are suicidal. They were suicidal before World War II officially broke out against us, before we were attacked at Pearl harbor, in fact. The isolationists, about a hundred years ago, the 1930s, they were extremely organized, extremely effective. There were hundreds of thousands of them. One of their leaders and spokesman was Charles Lindbergh, was Father Coughlin, who would be viewed as sort of the modern podcaster, a Tucker Carlson type or a Kelly type or any of these fools and buffoons. And so we were not properly armed, we were not psychologically ready, and we got hit and we were way behind, and it cost us many more lives because the enemy had gained such footholds and had such tremendous industrial production and assembly lines, while the isolationists were not in a majority, but they had significant voices that limited our ability to prepare and to be ready. And this is what's happening today in a different form and in a different way, but it's happening. See, I see what President Trump has done here in launching these military operations against Iran is heroic, as historic, as iconic. The question is, how do we bring this to a result? What result do we want? Let's not pretend the regime is gone because the Navy's gone and the Air Force is gone. Who are we negotiating with? The regime who's still firing ballistic missiles and drones? The regime who's still slaughtering their own people? The regime. We make a deal. The Communist Chinese going to stop funding them? Of course not. Are the Russians going to stop helping them? Of course not. The North Koreans? The Pakistanis? Of course not. And if they violate the deal or some aspect of the deal, what are we going to do about it? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. We won't have the will to do anything about it. People are already tired. I think people are tired of the back and forth and the back and forth and the back and forth. So far, this is one of the shortest quote Unquote, wars we've ever been involved in. Not the shortest, but one of them. And what do you think China's taking from all this? It couldn't be happier. We're beating the crap out of this enemy. We took out their leadership within 48 hours, poised to truly destroy them, to arm their people, and we hit the brakes. I don't know why, but we did. There's a lot of reasons that have

[Ben]

been given, none of them to make sense to me. And we've been in a ceasefire that

[Mark Levin]

is more fire than cease. This enemy is not going to go away from some paper agreement. It's never honored a single paper agreement. Am I supposed to pretend otherwise? Am I supposed to lie to you and mislead you? This doesn't mean I'm not on Team Trump. I absolutely am on Team Trump. And I'm doing everything I can, publicly and otherwise, to try and affect an outcome. I think that's in the best interest of we the people, the American people. That's what I do. That's what I believe in. Our generation has to take care of business so our children and grandchildren aren't exposed. That's the truth. That's the truth. I am not going to mislead you.

[Ben]

I am concerned.

[Mark Levin]

The Democrats have given aid and comfort to the enemy. The woke right podcasters have given aid and comfort to the enemy. The Marxist Islamists here at home are organizing. They are taking over towns. I am going to get into this soon. People are not realizing the extent of. Of the radicalism and reach of Mondami, that he's involved in helping to recruit Islamists and Marxists of the most vile kind that support terrorism to get them elected to Congress. He's involved in that. He doesn't view his role as simply as the mayor of New York City. You know, when you're a mayor of New York City, you figure that's a big enough job. No, he views his role as well beyond the five boroughs, well beyond, well beyond the state. He wants to reach into Congress. If a communist Stalinist from Vermont, Bernie Sanders, you don't give a damn about what happens in Vermont. He's the same way, doing the same thing. The revolution is here. The Marxist Islamist revolution is here, every bit as it is in the Middle east, in Africa, in Southeast Asia and in Europe. We are the big Satan. We are the ones that really need to be conquered. And the strategy is to create these segregated enclaves, these fortresses, if you will, of Sharia law and Islam, where imams control, where Qatar and other oil rich fiefdoms in the Middle east and elsewhere are funding them. Where do you think all this money comes from with thousands of mosques popping up all over the country? And the communist Chinese are involved in it too, helping to support the Islamist movements as well as antifa and the radical left. We're supposed to sit here and take it? The Democrat Party is in on it, 100% in on it. They'll talk about affordability, they'll talk about the price of gasoline and they're laughing at us because this is the way they hope to secure power. And like the Islamists and the Mark Marx says, never give it up, never give it up. That's why they want to change our constitutional republic. That's why they attacked the foundations of this republic. But I'm not going to sell you a bill of goods here and tell you that I feel that, you know, stepping in between Israel and Hamas to stop Israel from destroying Hamas is a smart move. I think it's a bad move at the behest of the Iranian regime which is supposedly doesn't even exist anymore. Seriously. I'll be right back. When you hear about Israel in the

[Ben]

news, it's easy to think of headlines, politics or another conflict far away. But for families in Israel and Jews around the world, this is personal. Anti Semitic attacks in the Holy Land and across the globe. Elderly Holocaust survivors who endured so much, again fearing for their lives.

[Mark Levin]

And in moments like these, your voice matters because your voice can remind them they're not alone. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is inviting you to leave a personal prayer or message of encouragement that will be delivered directly to someone in Israel who needs hope right now, right in the Holy Land. Not filtered through the media, not lost online, personally delivered. A simple prayer, a few heartfelt words,

[Ben]

they can lift the spirit of someone facing fear, uncertainty and isolation.

[Mark Levin]

This is more than support. This is standing with Israel and the international fellowship of Christians and Jews when it matters most. Please go to levin for the fellowship.org to submit your prayer today. That's L E V I n for the fellowship.org please check it out. The people of Israel are demanding victory

[Ben]

over the Islamist Iranian regime and Hezbollah. There's an election there in October.

[Mark Levin]

In our country, many people are demanding

[Ben]

we cut and run, make a deal and get out. There's an election in November. Therein lies the rubber.

[Mark Levin]

Those of us here, those of us

[Ben]

here who insist on an actual victory over the Iranian regime and Hezbollah because

[Mark Levin]

we see the grave danger to our

[Ben]

country and the world. I'M going to post this to our country and the world, if the regime survives, are said to be Israel firsters, When actually we are American firsters. Right. Makes sense. Mr. Producer, you're working with me, folks. We're actually American firsters who also whose position I would say not only seeks to secure our country far into the future, but our allies as well. But you see, the Jew haters, the isolationists, the Marxists, the Islamists, maybe little of each, they try to exploit this. That's what they do. They try to exploit this. Next hour, there was another hearing, Mark Wayne Mullen at the Senate hearing today.

[Mark Levin]

And here he is having to defend against the Democrats the ability to detain

[Ben]

and deport illegal aliens, including the most

[Mark Levin]

horrendous type of criminals. And as I've said over and over and over again, the Democrats let them in and the Democrats insist that they stay. Have you ever heard a Democrat speak out against the Islamists who are in this country? Have you ever heard them speak out against the radical imams who are leading them? Have you ever heard them concerned about the number of mosques popping up by the thousands? Have you? Have you ever heard them concerned about some of the things that are being said which I play here over and over? They never complain about it, ever. Ever. Netanyahu, Israel, yes. Trump, Maga, yes. Businesses, capitalism, yes.

[Ben]

Never. The Islamists, now that should tell you everything you need to know.

[Mark Levin]

And never the Marxists, because they've all embraced Marxism. Marxism creates poverty, impoverishment. You see, the problem with the Bernie Sanders of the world, and I'll use him as a foil, is the redistributing wealth before the wealth is even created. Let me repeat that so the backbenchers can use it. They are redistributing wealth before the wealth is even created. They're promising redistribution, they're promising freebies

[Noah Rothman]

even

[Mark Levin]

though a community cannot sustain it, but they promise it anyway. They're destroying our health care system with Obamacare. And their answer is what? A more comprehensive, centralized, government run health care system, national government health care system for the entirety of their population, where there are no private health care options. Zero. We've tried that with public housing. A failure. In fact, anything that's controlled by the government other than what the government is capable of actually doing, like national security, Sometimes it fails. There is a failure. If we had only government run grocery stores, we'd starve to death. If we only had government run clothing stores, we'd be naked. If we only had government run housing, we wouldn't have a roof over our head, and if we did, it would be infested with criminals and cockroaches. I don't know how many times humanity has to go through this false Marxist utopia. And I was thinking about this late

[Ben]

last night, like 2 in the morning.

[Mark Levin]

You ready? An epiphany. Marxism is said to be about materialism, right? The material dialectic that Marx kind of adjusted. Hegelism. But it's about materialism and you hear

[Ben]

the Marxists screaming about it all the time.

[Mark Levin]

And yet, in my view, it's not

[Ben]

even about materialism, if you ever really think about it. You interested in pursuing this? A little bit, Mr. Medusa. Next hour, we'll be back.

[Mark Levin]

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[Producer/Announcer]

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[Mark Levin]

Hello, America. Mark Levin here.

[Ben]

Our number, 877-381-3811-381738-13811. Let me touch on what I left, what I left off with before the top of the hour. What I said was, this whole doctrine of Marxism is so thoroughly defective. And I've written about it, thousands of people have written about it. But I got to thinking, what's the greatest defect? The socialist part of it?

[Mark Levin]

The redistribution of wealth, the oppressed versus the oppressor.

[Ben]

That's all problematic, don't get me wrong.

[Mark Levin]

No,

[Ben]

it's complete misstatement and misapplication of human nature,

[Mark Levin]

That is, I actually believe, as I thought about it overnight, that

[Ben]

Marx and Engels were pulling wool over our eyes.

[Mark Levin]

Not a conspiracy.

[Ben]

I think this is what their intention was.

[Mark Levin]

To use materialism, AKA economics and finance as camouflage for rejiggering human nature. That is, it's actually not so much about economics, although obviously it affects economics. But economics are used not to advance equality, not to advance fairness and affordability and the other slogans they spit out, but to advance totalitarianism. It's a philosophy not of economics, not based on economics. It's a philosophy, totalitarianism, that for some is more appealing than fascism because it's built around these sort of fluff concepts of compassion, of justice, economic justice, racial justice, whatever. When it has no intention of advancing justice of any kind. It's an excuse for totalitarianism, just like Islam is an excuse for totalitarianism.

[Ben]

I really believe this when it comes to Marxism now.

[Mark Levin]

I think when I next write, I'll

[Ben]

definitely explore this even further. Let my noggin keep hammering away at this.

[Mark Levin]

And as I look back on the 10 or 11 books I've written, it's

[Ben]

11 actually, but rescuing Sprite is a different milieu altogether. I'm just, just saying,

[Mark Levin]

I realize I

[Ben]

did touch on this in American Marxism,

[Mark Levin]

but I feel like I need to expand on. Marxism is about controlling the individual, about controlling the thought processes, about creating a society of robots.

[Ben]

Islam is the same way, by the way.

[Mark Levin]

They have a lot in common and then they have certain fundamentals clearly not in common. It's an utterly defective ideology. It can never work. And this is where it comes in the human factor. Because it's not a misunderstanding of human nature, as people say.

[Ben]

Some have said

[Mark Levin]

it is the intentional destruction of human nature to rejigger or recreate it by certain so called masterminds here on Earth. It can't work because human nature is what human nature is. God creates human nature, not man. Does any of this make sense to you, Rich?

[Ben]

You like it?

[Mark Levin]

So when Mandami talks about taxing the billionaires and Ken Griffin says I'm gonna leave, and Goldman Sachs says, we're gonna get out, we're gonna get. He doesn't care. That's what he wants. He's not, it's not really. The end game is not redistribution of wealth. That's part of the propaganda, that's part of the means. That's the process. The end game is to have a city of the kind of people you want to control the city. To literally pick the kinds of groups and ideological pursuits that these people are pursuing and to replace the people who are here in New York City now with the kind of people that you can control and who will in return do as you tell them to do. The Jews are being pushed out of

[Ben]

New York City, being replaced with Islamists.

[Mark Levin]

The successful people are being pushed out

[Ben]

of New York City, being replaced with illegal aliens.

[Mark Levin]

So what if it looks like some Middle east city? So what if it looks like some poor third World city? He's not interested in building a city. He's not interested in building skyscrapers. He's not interested in getting the filth off the streets or the crime off the streets. He's interested in recreating the city. So those things that matter to you in New York City or wherever it is, Dearborn, Michigan, cities in New Jersey, just pick it, it doesn't matter. You want to create like minded or people whose mind you conform and frame to live in these societies. And they start out as segregated, almost fortresses. That's why you see these heavily densely populated Islamic areas, intentionally so, placed strategically in different parts of different states in the country to have maximum impact. That's why you see money pouring in from overseas from monarchies, from dictatorships, from communist regimes intended to influence the outcome. They want to change

[Ben]

Americans and that means in many cases replacing them with outsiders.

[Mark Levin]

See, many of us are too damn stubborn.

[Ben]

We love our country, we think for ourselves, relatively intelligent. We don't want to be replaced.

[Mark Levin]

We're not interested in all this crap

[Ben]

about Marxism and Islamism and all. We don't want it.

[Mark Levin]

We're not interested in it. We're the target. Move us out of the way. Resettle us. Have us depopulate New York City, have us depopulate Los Angeles, have us depopulate Detroit, depopulate Dallas, depopulate Philly, depopulate these areas. Force us to move out. We'll move the red states. That won't last forever. Red states won't be free forever if they take over the federal government and oppose their will on us nationally in the Supremacy Clause. And they turn the Constitution against us. That's the plan. That's the plan. That's how they overcome our brilliant system. So the goal here, with the Marxists, with the Bernie Sanders and his ilk, with the Grand Platner and his ilk and their likes, is to control the

[Ben]

population, is to control the people

[Mark Levin]

by

[Ben]

changing the people,

[Mark Levin]

by changing human nature. Talk about equality, talk about fairness. Turn one against the other. People who resist these movements, the successful, the wealthy, middle class, hard working people, whatever they are, trash them. Islamophobic, they're racist white supremacists if they're white. If they're black, they're still on the plantation. And on and on and on, whatever it takes, whatever phrase you have to use, drag them down or push them out. And that's how they're going to conquer New York City.

[Ben]

That's how they're going to conquer Los Angeles.

[Mark Levin]

Take over the big metropolitan areas and

[Ben]

in many cases you control the states like a military operation, without, without weapons.

[Mark Levin]

Insist that illegal aliens stay. They're viewed as part of the means

[Ben]

by which this is accomplished.

[Mark Levin]

Open borders, no deportations, open borders, no detention centers.

[Ben]

I hope this makes sense because I think it's very important as I've been thinking this through. We'll be right back.

[Producer/Announcer]

Mud Love in.

[Mark Levin]

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little as 10 minutes.

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[Ben]

Again this guy Chris Murphy pops up like a bad rash. Cut 16 go.

[Senator Chris Murphy]

You know, I do have an opening statement here, but wow, Senator Murphy, the outlandish claims you made there is just flat wrong. I I. You start saying we're breaking the law and you really start looking at it and we're enforcing the laws that Congress did pass, that's reckless. When you start saying it's unconstitutional, what's unconstitutional that we're doing? We swore to uphold the Constitution just like you swore up to hold the Constitution. For you to throw my 275,000 employees underneath DHS and with a broad stroke like that is reckless and irresponsible on your part. We're doing the job that Congress gave us the authority to do. And our men and women out there every single day is enforcing laws. If you don't like the laws, you can change them. We're not picking and choosing which laws we enforce. We're simply enforcing the law. Period. Full stop. When you throw out reckless terms and you start referring to our our our agents as being dangerous, unconstitutional and lawless. That's why our agents death threats are up by 8,000%. I know that's not what you want, but your political theater that's what it causes. When you start looking at assaults on our officers, they're up by 1300%. Senator Murphy, is that what you want? I don't think it is. I really don't. But I understand the political theater. I understand wanting to get sound bites. And that was obvious because the whole time he was giving your testimony, he wasn't looking at me. He was looking at a camera. I get that. I get it. If you have bigger political ambitions, fine, just say it. But don't do it at the expense of my officers. We want to really talk about funding. You haven't funded my officers. CBP and ICE has been willing to do the job for free. Why? Because of a reckless administration. Prior to President Trump coming in and saving America, you had a reckless administration that was destroying America by letting millions of illegals into our country. We're a nation of laws, and we're going to enforce those laws. What separate us from other countries is because people respect the rule of law.

[Ben]

That was beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. In plain English. From his heart, I think. Very effective for anybody but a Democrat, but very effective. Cut 17. Go.

[Senator Chris Murphy]

What happened? Did Delaney Hall? Well, a lot of claims were made and they just absolutely weren't true. The first one came out and said it was overcrowded. We have today, I believe, under 700 detainees there. It's licensed for just over a thousand beds. We have twice the square footage at Delaney hall than the state penitentiary does in New Jersey. They said that the medical condition was horrible. We had twice as much medical staff per person than the state penitentiary does in, In. In New Jersey. What happened with the protesters? Well, the protesters is interesting. The governor and the state officials were going out and saying that they were peaceful protesters and ICE was agitating them. That all changed when the governor finally allowed the state police to do their job. And by the way, they're professionals. And the locals there were absolutely professionals. When they came in, they quickly realized these aren't peaceful protesters. These are rioters.

[Ben]

And the Democrats have defended them. That's the Democrat Party militia. I don't want to hear about January 6th again. These guys and the Democrats and their radical left wing kook Marxists and Islamists, we're seeing January 6th all the time. We're seeing Kristallnachts all the time. They are violent, they are vicious, they are brutal. They're even attacking horses and so forth and so on. Let's stop playing games around here. Okay, well, call him as we see him. We're going to tell the truth. Go ahead. Next One, please.

[Senator Chris Murphy]

Individuals that came in from Portland, not from New Jersey, came from Portland to lead. We've seen that they've been well supplied. We send, we've seen antifa flags being flown. And once the state police came out and which by the way, awesome group of guys, they understand crowd control very well. And they started pushing the individuals back after they warned them, started making arrests, you saw that the situation quickly got under control. And for us, when we first started calling, they were simply saying they didn't have the resources. And it's interesting to me that they finally found the resources and started clearing their streets. We can control our billing, we can provide security for our own building. But if the city and state streets, that is their job to do.

[Ben]

Did I not take a break, Mr. Medusa? Are we okay? Okay, we're okay. I think Mark Wayne Mullen gave fantastic testimony today.

[Mark Levin]

I don't know him.

[Ben]

I've never spoken to the man. Maybe that should change. I just assume he's very busy. But here's Tom Steyer, a billionaire in California.

[Mark Levin]

He's made a fortune and he's one

[Ben]

of these radical left wing billionaires who wants power. He's got all the money he wants, now he wants power.

[Mark Levin]

So he throws in with the radical

[Ben]

left like a Soros or like that jackass in China. Now he wants to be governor. And you're voting in California, by God, you got Steve Hilton there trying to help save your state.

[Mark Levin]

Cut 19, go.

[Tom Steyer]

Well, I think there are two things going on there, Ben. One is that yes, people are very scared about ICE specifically. And I have an incredibly strong anti ICE program. I've said I think they're a criminal organization and we had to see that.

[Ben]

You have a man running for public office that says he believes ICE is a criminal organization. He is evil, he is diabolical. He is power hungry. Anything for power. A billionaire. I guarantee he has all kinds of security. I guarantee you he would never hire somebody who's come here who's a danger to the community.

[Mark Levin]

ICE is a criminal organization. I want you folks to understand.

[Ben]

50% of ice is made up of minorities.

[Mark Levin]

These are men and women who are not paid a lot of money to put their lives on the line and deal with this and be called the names that they are called. This guy Steyer, Tom Steyer is a disgusting reprobate. And they think that doing this will get them votes in the Democrat primaries. And I think it will. But a criminal organization? Really, folks? Boy, does that not pump up the enemy? I'll be right back paying 70, 80, $90 a month to Big Wireless for unlimited data is insanity. Especially when PureTalk, my wireless company, is going to give you unlimited high Speed data for just 34, 99amonth. Unlimited high speed data at Pure Talk used to start at 55 bucks a month. But because PureTalk is constantly pushing to give you more for less, you can now get unlimited high speed data for just 34, 99amonth. So if you've looked at PureTalk before and you didn't make the move, please check them out again. And if you're wondering is Pure Talks Network really as good as the overpriced Big guys, try it out for 30 days with no contract, no cancellation fees, you have nothing to lose. 30 days. Check it out. Their US customer service team is standing by to help you switch in as

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little as 10 minutes.

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[Ben]

I want you to hear this, John Tom Steyer again.

[Mark Levin]

I want you to hear what, what it takes apparently to be a leading

[Ben]

Democrat in this country, Governor, Senate, House

[Mark Levin]

presidential candidate, I mean, ladies and gentlemen, I'm old enough to remember, many of you are 40, 50 years ago, even as a kid, the Democrat Party would never trash our law enforcement, trash our immigration system. They would never open the borders to illegal immigrants from all over the world. They never did. You had senators on the floor, Harry Reid, 1994, Governor Lamb of Colorado. I think it was like 2004. One after another, preaching against illegal immigration and so forth and so on. Now this Marxist revolution joined by the Islamist revolution due to open borders has exploded into our society as it's exploded into Europe.

[Ben]

Let's listen to this guy, Tom Steyer.

[Mark Levin]

Tom Steyer is evil. He's diabolical. He's one of the billionaires Bernie Sanders does not condemn. Cut 19, go.

[Tom Steyer]

Well, I think there are two things going on there, Ben. One is that yes, people are very scared about ice specifically, and people are

[Ben]

not very scared about ice at all.

[Mark Levin]

Are you scared about ice? Mr. Producer, how about you in this audience, law abiding American citizens, Are you scared about ice? Not in the least. How many of you support ice? We all do. When he says people are scared of ice, he means illegal immigrants are scared of ICE because they don't want to get caught and they don't want to be deported. That's federal law. America. These cities are violating federal law. These states are violating federal law. These public officials are violating federal law just as they did during the Confederacy. They are nullifying legitimate immigration laws that have been in place for half a century under bipartisan Congresses and presidents of both parties.

[Tom Steyer]

Go ahead on anti ICE program. I've said I think they're a criminal organization.

[Mark Levin]

Unbelievable.

[Tom Steyer]

And we have very strong. A very strong platform in terms of prosecuting them for racial profiling and violence. Investigating the detention center.

[Mark Levin]

When's the last time a state prosecuted a federal official?

[Ben]

Federal law enforcement, never. This guy's a scumbag.

[Mark Levin]

So they think states have the right to prosecute federal law enforcement officials. Can you imagine what would be going

[Ben]

on in our cities and states if that were the case with the Soros prosecutors?

[Mark Levin]

Of course they don't have that authority. They've never had that authority. This is what I mean. The Confederacy. It's the same logic as the Confederacy. We can nullify laws we disagree with there. They're claiming sanctuary status, as I've said here before. What is that? They're claiming that they are a breakaway state or a breakaway city for the purposes of certain laws they don't agree with. That is what caused the Civil War. And then they're going to tell you that they stand for the Constitution, that they fear Donald Trump is destroying the Constitution. That they fear Mag is destroying the Constitution.

[Ben]

Go ahead.

[Tom Steyer]

You don't have to trust me.

[Mark Levin]

I don't trust you. Usob. I despise you.

[Tom Steyer]

Go ahead online to say that my program is unfair to ICE agents. And I took that as a huge compliment.

[Ben]

You are disgusting. You are a lowlife. You are a sewer dweller with the other rats. ICE is uncomfortable. And I take that as a compliment. If you're in law enforcement in California,

[Mark Levin]

I take this seriously. You have an election today and I would not defend this man.

[Ben]

I tell him, you go hire your own private security.

[Mark Levin]

Go ahead. You don't get to do this to us. You don't get to call us this. And let me tell you something. He's gaslighting violence in the streets. He's gaslighting antifa. He's gaslighting these funded, coordinated networks of thugs who are attacking our police. That's what he's doing. Cut 20 more of this.

[Ben]

This disgusting buffoon.

[Mark Levin]

Go.

[Tom Steyer]

California is Unaffordable for most Californians.

[Mark Levin]

And why is that? You've had one party control. You got the highest taxes on income in the country, the highest taxes on gasoline. That affects everybody in the country. You have among the highest sales taxes generally in the country. It's impossible to build a home there. Even in burned out Palisades, it's impossible to afford a home there because of all the phony environmental regulations and land use regulations. What was once the really the Golden State, the state where you would go for opportunity. The state where you would go to start a business and raise a family. American citizens can't escape that state fast enough. It's depopulating. It's depopulating like Eastern Europe when the communists controlled Eastern Europe. People were escaping. They were doing everything they could to get out. The most beautiful state, the state with the most resources is being destroyed by the Democrat party and the radical kooks who run it.

[Ben]

Go ahead.

[Tom Steyer]

Really stressed. And so even though the state, the richest people in this state are killing

[Mark Levin]

it, the truth is he is one

[Ben]

of the richest people in the state. He's a multi billionaire. What a hypocritical piece of crap. They're not killing anything. Illegal aliens, the government, go ahead, for

[Tom Steyer]

instance, can't make ends meet. And so the idea that we're not going to do anything about that, that we're not going to structure changing. I'm saying corporate special interests are driving up the costs for Californians.

[Mark Levin]

No, they're not. And I'm not a special pleader for corporatists.

[Ben]

No, they're not driving up the costs in California.

[Mark Levin]

You have the highest minimum wage in

[Ben]

the country, the most restrictive zoning laws in the country.

[Mark Levin]

You can't even get water to your fire hydrants to protect your neighborhoods. You have some of the most restrictive rules on police enforcing the law. Your cities are filled of homeless people defecating in the streets, using needles and drugs in the streets. You've turned California, that was under Reagan and Duke Magin and Pete Wilson, a truly beautiful, great state, into one garbage dump after another. People escape, you know, to the outer burbs and the rural areas or near the oceans or wherever they can go. Then I'm moving into the cities. Go ahead.

[Tom Steyer]

Record profits.

[Mark Levin]

And I'm shut up a hole. I'm sick of you. Really sick of you. You puke. I'll be right back.

[Noah Rothman]

Foreign.

[Mark Levin]

70, 80, $90 a month to Big Wireless for unlimited data is insanity. Especially when PureTalk, my wireless company is going to give you unlimited high speed Data for just $34.99 a month. Unlimited high speed data at PureTalk used to start at 55 bucks a month. But because PureTalk is constantly pushing to give you more for less, you can now get unlimited high speed Data for just $34.99. So if you've looked at Pure Talk before and you didn't make the move, please check them out again. And if you're wondering is Pure Talk's network really as good as the overpriced big guys, try it out for 30 days with no contract, no cancellation fees, you have nothing to lose. 30 days. Check it out. Their US customer service team is standing by to help you switch in as

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[Ben]

Keep up that breaking news.

[Mark Levin]

Have you had enough, America? I've been right about this from day one. Not because I'm so brilliant, not because I'm Nostradamus, because it's called using your head. This is the enemy. They're going to always be the enemy. And if they survive, they'll continue to be the enemy. Does this sound like a regime that thinks it's defeated? Does this seem like a regime that is desperate? It is cockier than ever. Unfortunately, it is reading our actions or the lack thereof as weakness. I do not think we can keep our finger up the trigger much longer. This cease fire that has had more fire than cease. It's gone on almost two months when it was supposed to last two weeks. We're going to pull Israel back so they can't destroy Hezbollah. What will our next reaction be? And I think that in part had something to do with this response. This is an enemy that is evil, that is vicious, that is prepared to fight and die. When they hear the democrats in our country, when they hear the media in our country, when they hear these podcaster bastards in our country, they take strength from it. They think we're divided to the point where we can't function. Here's the deal. They need to have their asses kicked a lot harder. The IRGC needs to be pounded and pounded and pounded again. The people of Iran need to be armed. The enemy has told us tonight by its actions it will never honor a deal. We have a third of our navy right there. We took out their leaders. We're not going to be able to do that again. We're going to have problems with China and Taiwan. We're going to have problems still with Russia and Ukraine. We're going to have problems in our own hemisphere. We can't park one third of the navy there forever with bombers and air force, nor should we have to. You recall I opposed the ceasefire to begin with. I never understood, not just tapping the brakes, but hitting the brakes. Well, here we are. Now what are we going to do now? Saudi Arabia, What's Saudi Arabia going to do? They are going to say, stop the Israelis. We got to protect our oil fields now that they are subjected to attacks again. What are they going to say now? They're going to say, no, let's get Iran. Well, guess what? Saudi Arabia doesn't control us. It's not a matter of Israel controlling us. They have too damn much to say. So does Qatar. So does Turkey. The only country that fought side by side with us, the only country that had troops in Lebanon, in Gaza, the only country that has suffered that kinds of attacks in a war is Israel. And I'm supposed to hate Israel and hate Netanyahu when they're our greatest ally in the region? Enough is enough.

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[Mark Levin]

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[Ben]

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[Mark Levin]

across the Middle East. Across the Middle East, Iran launched several ballistic missiles. We're not even negotiating over ballistic missiles

[Ben]

to my knowledge, toward regional neighbors.

[Mark Levin]

However, all failed to hit their intended targets. Two Iranian missiles fired at Kuwait fell short or broke apart en route. And three missiles launched at Bahrain were immediately intercepted by United States and Bahrain air defense forces. Moments earlier, U.S. command CENTCOM forces shot down three one way attack drones launched by Iran towards civilian mariners that were rightfully transiting regional waters. American forces also conducted self defense strikes on an Iranian military ground control station on Keshan Island. No US personnel were harmed. CENTCOM forces remain vigilant and ready to defend against unwarranted Iranian aggression during the ongoing ceasefire. Listen to that sentence. Listen to this sentence. CENTCOM forces remain vigilant and ready to defend against unwarranted Iranian aggression during the ongoing ceasefire. What ongoing ceasefire? We're playing defense. They're on offense. We expect the Israelis to play defense when Hezbollah is on offense. This is not how Americans fight. We're Americans, damn it. This is the United States of America. We don't let these third world Islamist pieces of crap to do this to us. Or do we? Or do we? This is why people are getting disheartened. They're getting worn out. Let's go. Let's go. And not just another hit. A knockout.

[Ben]

I'm a warmonger. Stupid people. Stupid people. Zorhan Mandami. This guy's the point of the Islamist spear. This was a massive win for the Marxist Islamists, for the people who are

[Mark Levin]

leading this revolution to destroy our country, to take over our Biggest city. And it is from there that he intends to change the city fundamentally, its population and its culture. He wants people to leave. He's trying to push out capitalists, he's trying to push out successful people. He's trying to bring in more and more Islamists, illegal aliens and so forth and so on. Here he is talking about the New York City Israel parade participants, just to be as clear as he can about where he stands. Cut eight. Go.

[Senator Rubio]

What do you say to New Yorkers outraged that members of the administration marched with an Israeli official who call for the total annihilation of Gaza's cities?

[Noah Rothman]

The finance minister, Smotrich.

[Mark Levin]

What a question. What a question.

[Ben]

Stupid. Go ahead.

[Mark Levin]

Clear.

[Tom Steyer]

Time and time again over the course

[Mark Levin]

of the campaign, my criticisms of the Israeli government and you can see in the participation of the far right Israeli Minister Smotrich, as well as another. America.

[Ben]

America. We hear this from Megyn Kelly. We hear this from all the stooges, all the frauds, all the phonies. We hear it from Mondami. We hear it from this Piers Morgan who failed in British media, which is hard to do, Complete clown and ass, all of them. Same damn thing. Well, I have a right to question the government. Nobody said you don't have the right to question the government.

[Mark Levin]

But look, look, they take these various

[Ben]

ministers who are part of a coalition government.

[Mark Levin]

They're right wingers. And whether I support them or not,

[Ben]

I don't even know who all of them are.

[Mark Levin]

The fact of the matter is that not one of them comes anywhere close to being as diabolical and evil and murderous and torturous as any of them in Iran, as any. Any of them in Hamas, Hezbollah. This is just an excuse. An excuse.

[Ben]

Go ahead.

[Mark Levin]

There's a vision of annihilation. A complete. There's no vision of annihilation, you Ugandan jackass. You Marxist puke. You Islamist fraud. Annihilation. Ladies and gentlemen, we went through this the other night. The vast majority of the Arab Muslim countries now were Christian countries. The entirety of the state of Israel and Beyond was Jewish 4000 years ago. 3800 years and change. Christianity a little over 2000 years. Islam 1700 years ago. So how is it that there are literally three Jews left in Iraq? How is it that there are literally four Jews left in Egypt? Three Jews left in Yemen? How is that possible? How is it that Bethlehem, the birthplace of Jesus Christ, which was 85% Christian 10 years ago, is now 15% Christian? Where are the Christians in the Middle East? The only place they are? Where they are growing. Is in the state of Israel. The annihilation of the Palestinians that did not even exist as a name until 1965, when an Egyptian by the name of Arafat was working with the KGB in Russia to concoct that whole notion. The annihilation. Who is conquering Europe? The Jews in Israel. Who is conquering North Africa and slaughtering the Christians there? The Jews in Israel. Who is slaughtering the Christians in Syria? What is this, a joke? Notice he never talks about how women are treated by the Islamists. It is so horrendous, so monstrous. Notice he never talks about the white girls who were targeted and raped by the thousands. And they were raped hundreds of times. I put the clip up. The testimony is there. What kind of ideology is this? What kind of ideology is it that on October 7, 2023, the brutalization, the debauchery, the inhumanity that took place. And same with the hostages, several of whom were American. Have you seen what's going on in Africa? Have you seen? They cut babies in half with machetes. They decapitate people. They haven't done anything except they're Christian. And this bastard mayor. This bastard mayor talks about the vision of annihilation. He goes on, I don't want to hear his voice. A complicity in genocide. Even a radical left wing international organization, the icc, concluded there was no genocide, but the mayor of New York has concluded that there was. He says they don't have the sanctity for the value, even the sanctity of children in Gaza. Does this POS even know what happens to little girls in Gaza? Does he know what happens to little girls by the Islamist fundamentalist? Does he even raise his voice about it? How about that lovely wife of his and the stuff she was posting? My God, the fact that anybody voted for this pos. You have to be mentally ill. I'll be right back.

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[Ben]

Noah Rossman writes at National Review. He's actually part of the family, used to work with John Batchelor and work with Mr. Producer Rich Sementa. And it's a pleasure to have him with us because he's written a very timely, actually prescient and important book, blood and A Century of Left Wing Violence in America. Now this is really compelling and you'll learn a lot from this and you'll understand a lot of what's going on here.

[Mark Levin]

Noah welcome to the program.

[Ben]

Let's start at the beginning. You make the case the left has always been violent.

[Mark Levin]

It's particularly violent right now.

[Ben]

What do you mean by it's always been violent?

[Noah Rothman]

Well, we always hear about how the American right is uniquely violent. And we hear about it after a confirmed assassination attempt or an armed assault on an ICE facility or a CBP facility or the mobs that descend nightly on American cities. And you have to wonder, you know, maybe I'm going to confront the evidence of my own eyes because it does look like we're in the midst of a wave of left wing violence. And yet there's very few who are willing to confess, confront what that means or divine where this comes from, and explore the patterns of left wing violence. And when you do as it did, you see that American history is peppered with anarchistic and socialistic violence going back over the last 125 years or so. So that's what I did. Go back the last 125 years or so and explore the degree to which this pattern of left wing violence mirrors previous patterns of left wing violence. And why is it always a particular sort of progressive activist who is inclined towards Marxian revolutionary violence? There you have it. The social socialistic revolutionary tendency, which licenses violence based on the subjective assessment of relative oppression, is something that's been a feature of left wing activism since the anarchistic mobs that began to organize at the end of the 19th century and accreted around the Soviet cause And and the proletarian revolutionary cause in the beginning of the 20th century, you see these patterns that are so clearly defined and do not depart from this historical pattern that you have to wonder whether this history is obscure or whether it's being suppressed. And I come down on the side of suppression.

[Ben]

So this revolution has never stopped. Right. Isn't that. That's what's going on here until they actually achieve what it is they claim they want to achieve.

[Noah Rothman]

Yeah. The anarchists of the 1910s, 1920s were in league with the socialists, but they disagreed over the level of violence that was necessary to bring about the revolution. But the revolution was the goal, and if violence was necessary, then that's what they did to get there. The Marxist guerrilla movements of the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s, similarly, they orbited around Cuba and the Cuban revolutionary cause, evolving eventually into Pan Arabists and later just straight up Islamists. When the Islamic revolution in Iran incorporated Marxian elements, there's still a cult of Che in revolutionary Iran, which is, again, an understudied feature of Marxist and Islamist revolutionary violence. And then when you start to apply those, look at those patterns, look at those historical events and look for similarities with today's wave, you see a lot of it. You see this tendency to believe that a galvanizing act of violence will ignite a broader audience and lead the rest of us, this cowed and passive population, to the revolution that they know we actually want. We just need permission to pursue it. The Italian anarchists called it propaganda of the deed. Today they call it direct action, but it's the same thing. It's just revolutionary violence, bloodletting, designed to let you know that the God bleeds and therefore we can all rise up against it. Yeah, I mean, you saw that. Did you see that video of those women outside the Luigi Mangioni trial? Supporters of Luigi Mangioni. Grotesque. Grotesque.

[Ben]

Three of them.

[Noah Rothman]

But what did they say? What did that woman say? She said, you know, we, a less passive population would have risen up against our oppressive conditions. This terrorist, she called Brian Thompson, the former CEO, murdered CEO of UnitedHealthcare, called him a terrorist, said his children were better off without him, that they had been bequeathed blood money, and that his death would bring us closer to the revolution. David Horowitz said it best, paraphrasing an SDS radical. The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.

[Mark Levin]

What about the role of the Democrat

[Ben]

Party, which seems to be the umbrella political entity for this? Has that always been the case?

[Noah Rothman]

Not always the case. The Italian anarchists, the early Anarchists. And you know, if you actually looked at it, the violent radicals, the anarchists in the early 20th century, the Marxist guerrilla movements, Occupy Wall street, the 2020 George Floyd mobs, Democratic officials, they attempt to ingratiate themselves with these mobs, right? They see in them zeal, passion, some kind of instrument of political utility that can be harnessed and wielded if they were clever enough. But if you actually ask these people on the ground, they never have any use at any point in history for Democratic political professionals. Throw them into the ocean, they don't need them. But that never seems to occur to these Democratic leaders throughout the centuries who have just subordinated discretion to what they see as this tantalizing display of political passion that they can use for the wield for themselves. And so they go to great lengths in ways that should discredit their movement, but certainly give license to people who are inclined towards violence. Look at how they reacted to the Brian Thompson murder. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Elizabeth Warren, Chris Murphy, Bernie Sanders, they all condemned the murder, but then they said, but which discredits everything that came before it. This renders it all dismissible. They said, but you have to understand, everybody's so angry. But you have to understand health insurance is broken. Bernie Sanders said it better. But you have to understand the health insurance system is broken and the finance system is broken and the housing system is broken and the education system is broken. It's all broken. So what we need is a holistic solution to all our problems, a social upheaval from below in which you and me and everybody else will get what's coming to us.

[Mark Levin]

Has the Democrat Party today been devoured

[Ben]

by this or is the Democrat Party feeding this?

[Noah Rothman]

I think they're feeding it. I think most don't really want to entertain the prospect of political violence. Listen, what do they mean? What's implicit when they point their finger at the American right and say, no, no, no, you guys are the most violent? Well, implicit in that is a condemnation of violence. Right? There's a taboo that they know the American people do not appreciate extralegal violence in the pursuit of social change. That's why they're accusing the American right of pursuing it. So that's a good stigma. I can work with that. But at the same time, they also tend to ingratiate themselves with these latently potent, potentially violent movements, only the latest being the anti Israel, pro Hamas mobs, which you were saying in the earlier segment, you know, and I write in this book, quite a bit of the agitation that we've been subjected to from this cohort stretches back to the Cold War and StateCraft by the KGB. A lot of these narratives that you hear from the activist class, neocolonial enterprise, a white outpost in the brown global South, a genocide, uses famine and rape as weapons of war. These were devices designed to advance the Soviet geopolitical project. They called it Zionology. After the wars in 1967 and 1973, the Soviet Union made a lot of bad investments in Arab armies. So it was just a practical project to discredit Israel. And you hear these narratives even today from the mouths of activists, all of whom the Democratic Party is trying to get in good with.

[Ben]

Well, I want to hold you over the break. Noah Rothman, this is a fantastic, crucially important book right now, especially Blood and A Century of Left Wing Violence in America. You can get it on Amazon.com, any major bookstore.

[Mark Levin]

Order it during the break. We'll be right back. With Donald Trump back in office, one of his biggest adversaries, top Democrat Dick Durbin of Chicago, is leading the charge to derail President Trump's agenda at every turn. And now Durbin has a new scheme, a government takeover of your credit card. Right now, Americans have thousands of credit card options, all with equal strong security. But Senator Durbin's plan could result in less security. That means more risk for your credit, your identity and your financial future. Durbin's bill isn't about helping consumers. It's a giveaway to corporate megastores, which could shift costs onto you while putting your rewards and fraud protections in jeopardy. We've seen Durbin's fail policies before. His last big banking regulation backfired, leading to higher costs and fewer benefits for American families. Tell Republican senators, stop Durbin's government takeover of your credit card before it's too late. Learn [e-mail] that's guardyourcard.com paid for by the Electronic Payments Coalition.

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[Ben]

We're chugging the note. Rothman. Probably seen him on Fox from time to time. Writes beautifully for National Review. Blood in A Century of Left Wing Violence in America. This is a killer book. I strongly recommend you. You go on Amazon and order your copy and you can get it in any bookstore, too. You write here in the afterword of the book, something I highlighted.

[Mark Levin]

To truly arrest this cycle of radicalization,

[Ben]

we're going to need a more responsible class of American elites. And it goes on.

[Mark Levin]

Now my Question to you is, is

[Ben]

that what we have now?

[Mark Levin]

And how do we get that?

[Noah Rothman]

We're far from it, unfortunately. What we get it is by having a political culture that rewards excellence and rewards responsibility in our communicators. We have the precise opposite right now. And I don't have a panacea for this problem. I don't offer one. You know, publishers always want to know, like, what can you do? If I were to suggest what we could do about political violence in America, I would be in a much better financial position.

[Mark Levin]

Isn't that funny, though? The publishers say we need recommendations, we need solutions.

[Ben]

But anyway, go ahead.

[Noah Rothman]

Well, it's not that I don't have any. The New Line Institute, for example, makes some recommendations for law enforcement. Ways in which they could deprive those who are inclined to political violence on both sides of the spectrum of the narrative that the state is arrayed against them. Both sides of this equation believe that the state is on the other side. But applying the tools that law enforcement has on the books proactively and aggressively is how you roll up these waves of political violence. How it worked in the 20th century, and it's how it would work today. Beyond that, also restoring politics as we understand it to its proper sphere. Politics today that we, as we talk about it, doesn't have anything to do with elections or legislative affairs. It has to do with its total interest, has to do with the commercials you watch and the shows you watch and the food you eat and the alcohol you drink and the people you associate with. All that stuff is outside the purview of politics. But when you fixate on it and you get really annoyed that public institutions aren't addressing what you believe is a moral imperative, it's radicalizing. And you've just misconstrued what the American Social Compact can deliver. So I have some recommendations, but. But it starts with modeling the behavior that we want to see in the world. Which is easier said than done.

[Ben]

Yeah. Because it looks like the Democrat Party is increasingly radicalized. No.

[Noah Rothman]

Yeah. No, it's certainly. It's beholden to a radicalized fringe, which is deeply dispiriting because that radicalized fringe is inclined towards revolutionary solutions to otherwise banal political problems. And they have, as I write in this book, there is an this. They have this. A kind of empathy. It is a type of empathy which regards. Which inverts the role of victim and victimizer. They see in. And we're talking about rank criminality. They see in the victim an instrument of societal oppression. And they see in the victimizer, a somebody who's luck, who has no agents, no control over their actions and is essentially a vessel for societal forces. And when you get that in mindset, you get what my colleague Andy McCarthy called the progressive prosecutor project in which the country just declines to prosecute criminality, operating under this delusion that criminality is a social construct. And then the flip side of that, by the way, is the activist class that looks at people like Daniel Penny, who is a New York City subway rider who subdued a hostile vagrant who was menacing his fellow riders, accidentally killed him, was acquitted by a jury in self defense. But that verdict is disregarded by the activist class because they don't believe that the courts are a legitimate mechanism for adjudicating disputes. They don't believe that the courts are legitimate. And so any of their verdicts must be disregarded. Therefore Daniel Penney was a vigilante. That's how they describe it. And therefore the criminal who they wouldn't prosecute is an instrument of historical forces beyond his control. That's the inversion we're talking about. And that's the environment that begets lawlessness and violence, political or otherwise.

[Ben]

The book is Blood in Progress. Get on Amazon.com, any major bookstore if you want to get it tomorrow. Go to Amazon.com, blood and a Century of Left Wing Violence in America.

[Mark Levin]

How's your book been received by the media?

[Ben]

Do they pretend it doesn't exist?

[Noah Rothman]

Yes, they pretend it doesn't exist, which they shouldn't. If they wanted to be smart, they would, they would attack me because they would launder into the discourse what I believe is a pretty fair minded argument against political violence, both left and right. And I think it's a sort of. Because you can't honestly write this book, as I say, without addressing the degree to which one side takes inspiration from or resolves to mete out vengeance against the other side. So you can't look at one side of this equation and think you're solving the problem. And that's what the political class in this country does. They look at the right and only the right and they dismiss everything that comes from the left. And they think that they're addressing the problem. They're not addressing the problem, they're making it worse. This is what I hope readers of Blood in Progress will take away from it. But yeah, not a lot of, not a lot of attacks from the media. I'm hoping for more.

[Ben]

Let me ask you about this.

[Mark Levin]

You have.

[Ben]

We talk about this horseshoe. People do sort of the Radical left and radical right. I mean if you take it to its extreme, sort of the fascists or neo fascists combining with the Marxists, Islamists and so forth. We see the woke right and we see this Marxist sort of Islamic entity and we see them sort of coalescing, beginning to coalesce to attack maga, to attack Israel, to attack people like me. But regardless, is this something new?

[Noah Rothman]

Well, it's not new, but it's new for conservative and republican politics in America. Now it's not my book, but there's a companion book, Jason Burke's the Revolutionists, which describes how international left gravitated away from Marxist style Cuban revolutionary politics and towards pan Arabism and again Islamism, as we discussed in the last segment. And there is a. And there is a right wing radical element to that which adopts the very same tactics and is inclined towards the very same radicalizing tracks that are typically more. More attractive to the American left. I'm thinking of specifically the Neobo, the Unabomber manifesto. That is something that is really enlivens the far right in Europe for example, but it hasn't really been attract to the American right here previous to this generation. This generation is inclined towards it, but the progressive left has always found in that kind of neo Luddism, a certain environmentalist line, a certain galvanizing idea that has been attracted to those who are inclined towards violence. Environmentalist violence, animal rights violence of that sort has a neolettist Luddite ist flavor to it. And that's typically been a left wing thing in this country as has been paranoid conspiratorial politics. You know, a lot of the stuff that was native to Marin county has been absorbed by the activist class on the American right. And yeah, it's becoming a lot less distinguishable from the American left. That's one of the things that I inveigh against in this book.

[Ben]

Well, it's a great book. I can see you put a lot

[Mark Levin]

of work into it.

[Ben]

So let me ask you, how long

[Mark Levin]

did it take you to write this, the book?

[Noah Rothman]

So it's actually bound up. Well, I've been writing about American political violence for a decade or so and I've been scared of it. It's one that I write about things that terrify me. And it was odd because I get a lot of attention when I would write for the. About violence and the American right and condemn it, but not the other side. There was a lot of silence around that. And so I got this. I wrote a magazine piece after the Brian Thompson Assassination and wrote a treatment for the book then, but it was hard to get it picked up by a publisher until Sarah Milgram and Yaron Lushinsky were murdered outside a Jewish event in Washington, D.C. last summer. Then I sold the book and it was supposed to come out in October, but then Charlie Kirk was killed and we had to push it up. The extent to which this book has been bound up in bloodshed actually kind of weighs on my soul a little bit. But it demonstrates the degree to which we're in the middle of a left wing wave of violence, a very familiar left wing wave of violence. And it's unrecognizable unless you know the contours and scope of this sort of thing. And I hope Blood in Progress gets everybody aware of what left wing waves of left wing violence look like so we could get our hands around it and begin at least on the margins to push against this problem.

[Ben]

Yeah, exactly right. It's a great book by Noah Rothman, who we're talking to, Blood and A Century of Left Wing Violence in America. You can get it at Amazon.com, just put in Blood in Progress or on all my social sites. Noah, fantastic job. We really appreciate you working so hard on this. It's a great book.

[Noah Rothman]

Thank you so much, sir. I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

[Mark Levin]

All right.

[Ben]

You take care of yourself. God bless. And it is a very easily digestible book and it walks you through an amazing history of violence in this country. And he points out that we're in a heightened state of violence with respect to the left right now. But it's not the first time this has happened. My concern is, and one of the ways he says to control it, and he's right, is to actually enforce the law. Round some of these people up and throw them in jail and so forth, is that's part of the reason the cops are under attack. The Democrat Party's attacking local cops, state cops, federal cops, trying to defund them. You heard that Styre, he called ICE a criminal enterprise. This is real quackery. It's very dangerous. But I would encourage you to get your own copy. I very much have enjoyed going through it and have learned a ton. Blood in Progress. Just use that name. Blood in Progress. Go to Amazon by Noah Rothman. It'll pop up. It's discounted, as all new books are.

[Mark Levin]

And I think you're going to learn

[Ben]

a lot from it. People say, why is this happening? Why is that happening? And you'll learn why it's happening. Blood in Progress. Century of Left Wing Violence in America by Noah Rothman. And of course the left wing media wants nothing to do with it. You want to know why? Because they're part of the problem. They are. They stoke it, in my view. Especially podcasters, their cable channels and their networks. I'll be right back.

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[Ben]

I'm reading this is the News today

[Mark Levin]

climbed 27% last year, surpassing U.S. treasuries

[Ben]

at 22%, according to a report from

[Mark Levin]

the European Central Bank. Gold soaring price is the main reason for its newfound dominance of central bank's foreign reserves. This is fresh off the presses today.

[Ben]

From the Telegraph.

[Mark Levin]

The cost of a troy ounce rose by 65% last year, finishing in 2025 near a record $4,322. Central banks were also using gold to shore up their balance sheets against the headwinds of geopolitics. The bank cited a survey from late 2025 in which central banks said geopolitics was the third biggest risk they faced behind cybersecurity and other cyber incidents. Three quarters of central banks said geopolitical risk had increased last year. A third of the banks said geopolitics would be the most important factor guiding the management of their foreign currency reserves over the next five years. Gold is traditionally viewed, they write, as a haven when markets or politics are stormy. This has traditionally led central banks to favor U.S. bonds and other dollar denominated investments, which are highly liquid. But central banks have grown more cautious. More cautious. The US Government's debt is growing faster than demand for its bonds and faster than the American economy. The debt to GDP ratio has risen from just over 100% in the 2010s to more than 120%. The value of US treasuries held in custody by central banks and other official institutions at the New York Federal reserve decline by $82 billion and 2.7 billion in March alone, the lowest level since 2012. You get the gist. This is not an advertisement. This is not a sponsor. This is the news from the Telegraph. Gold overtakes bonds as world's favorite investment. World's favorite investment. But it is propitious. It is timely. It's the warning that I keep talking about. And you're going to hear more and more articles like this.

[Ben]

Now.

[Mark Levin]

We're going to be watching what goes on in Iran and so forth during the course of the night because they are six hours ahead of us. So it's three in the morning there.

[Ben]

So in three or four hours it's daylight. It's something to pay attention to. And we will be paying attention to it as we always do.

[Mark Levin]

And I'm glad you're here. And I try to provide you with the best information I have and the

[Ben]

best judgment I have. And that's why I think you're here.

[Mark Levin]

No amount of attacks on me or threats against me are going to change

[Ben]

what I've been doing here for what, 24 years.

[Mark Levin]

Mr. Medusa, ladies and gentlemen, we salute our armed forces, police officers, firefighters, emergency personnel, ice. We love you. Our truckers, the men and women in Ukraine, the men and women in Israel, the men and women in Persia, and you, the American people. God bless you. See you right here tomorrow.