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Shoddy
I don't know what that was. Can you hear me?
Ian
Microphone check. One, two.
Rashad
I hear you. I hear you.
Ian
The snow messed up the connection, but we all good.
Rashad
We here, we here. The people's here, the family's here. Fellas, how y' all feeling?
Ian
Amazing. Amazing. How y' all feeling?
Shoddy
Y' all looking glorious.
Ian
Men in black. Oh, I ain't get the memo.
Rashad
We are sitting here in two feet of snow. It is. They said it's a travel ban here in Westchester County. You can't even drive outside, only emergency vehicles. So the show must go on, though, you know, we. The market was still open. We were still able to do some things, so. Yeah. Shoddy, how you feeling?
Shoddy
Feel good, man. Made it through that intro.
Ian
Trying to beat up in my headphones. Things happen. The next place. Screen. Elevator. Shoddy. Go up top. I got you. Screen. That's a great part about being an entrepreneur, man. You got to adjust on the fly.
Rashad
I feel. Do I do this disclaimer again? Oh, I'm not like, how does that work? I don't even know. All right, it was one screen. Exactly, exactly, exactly. Yes, yes. Hey, yo, before we start, man, before we start, big week. I'm not even gonna let him do it. I'm gonna do it for him. Big week. This Friday. Birthday in session. Shout out to. How we feeling, man? It's birthday week, man.
Shoddy
Go ahead, man. Still at it. Still at it. Shout out to all the Pisces out there. Shout out to my man Miguel. It's his birthday today.
Rashad
Yeah, yeah.
Shoddy
Oh, yeah. You know, it's Pisces season, so.
Ian
Pisces season.
Shoddy
Salute to all the Pisces. Shout out to Ja Rule. His Birthday is
Rashad
a 29th, right? Yeah, yeah.
Shoddy
There's no 29th, but he's turning 50 this year, so.
Ian
Oh, for real.
Shoddy
Shout out to all the Pisces out there, man.
Rashad
Yeah, yeah, it is. Is, is that time? Yeah. Shout out to Spanx. His birthday was last week. Tori, my niece, her birthday is coming up.
Ian
Yeah, man.
Rashad
Then, you know, next week we do it all over again.
Shoddy
To my nephew, Ali, his birthday was yesterday.
Rashad
Ah, words. Happy birthday, Ali. For sure.
Shoddy
Alrighty. Alrighty. We got a lot to talk about. Oh, man, Blackout. You know, there's a lot to talk about in blackout. They going crazy. Somebody asked me about you today as they thought that she was in Mexico. I'm like, nah.
Ian
Everybody in Guadalajara, Jalisco, pbr, my lord.
Rashad
They said, they said they turned a flight that was from Chicago, they just flew right back to Chicago. They said, no, we're not even going there. We're not doing this.
Shoddy
Yeah, but we're going to talk about Mexico. We're going to talk about Trump invading Iran. Looks like that's going to happen.
Rashad
Supreme Court, the Supreme Court ruling.
Shoddy
Relationship. Some relationship stuff, of course. Some health related issues, of course, A lot of talk about. So check it out. 9:00 clock on Wednesday, if you're interested. And then Thursday at 12 o' clock we got Jeff Fromer. Man, this is an interesting conversation. I'll give a sneak peek. But when you sell your company for almost $100 million and you, and you don't actually get the money, man, that's a learning, that's a learning experience.
Ian
The other part that's happening in a lot of entrepreneurship and VC is big exits, but they're finding ways to dilute those shares so you get nothing. It's a bunch of these horror stories. Please tune in. It's more common than you think.
Rashad
It's one of these rich men, poor man. Read the headline. So when you read the headline, it feels, sensationalized company sells for 100 million. And then you don't know the backstory, how they were supposed to accumulate it, whether it was in shares, whether it was in equity, and then it's a fight to get it. You know, a lot of times the glory is on the paper, but until you get that money, it ain't that glorious. And it's tough because nobody tells that story. And you know, we peel back the layers on a little bit, but it wasn't even a surprise to me. This is a person that we've known for over four years and I didn't even know the details of it. So I'm glad he got to share his story and hopefully everybody Learns from
Ian
it is for the investors and not for you. My bad, Rashad. But tune into the episode often the exit is for the investor and not for you as the founder. Probably one of the most important episodes. If you're building and looking to exit, especially in this era of canceling dei, please watch this episode.
Shoddy
That's a fact. So, yeah, that's a lot of information, a lot of gems. And he has a platform actually dedicated to give equity to creators for different things that they endorse and to match different products, different companies up with different creators and to get equity for creators. But he's telling multiple stories. But yeah, that's one of the stories as far as, like when you see a headline, somebody sold a company and we talk about Kobe Lane, we talk about the Kobe Lane. And he explained. He explained that. So everything that you see on everything that you read, believe half of what you see. But it's an education. It's an education.
Rashad
It was. It definitely is education. And shout out to everybody that tuned into last week's episode with Mark Barnes, the legend. The legendary Mark Barnes. If you haven't seen it, go check it out. That was one of the. One of the most memorable tapings that we've had, man. It was an episode filled with a lot of information, but just so much experience. I think the experience comes through and everything he says, it's just like, man, this dude really lived it and it's still living it at the highest level, man. So shout out to Mark, shout out to dc, shout out to everything that he's owned and everything that he has going forward. That's a legend.
Ian
Real quick, I don't know what conversation y' all had going into 2026, but y' all been cooking like charlamagne, this one. Even on the membership side, if you haven't watched the episode, just go back and look how innovative that business model was to introduce subscription based and what the margins are like. That's one of the ones I was taking notes like. Okay. As club culture is dying, finding a way to bring in higher margins and not only bringing in higher margins, but giving a higher ROI experience to the customer base. Innovation is needed. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Shoddy
That's definitely. They calling it a top 10 episode, man. Mark Barnes, they definitely instant classic, you know? Yeah. A few clips over over a million views. 800, 000 views. That one clip about how black people spend three times more in the nightclub. That's. That's. That one crazy controversial, but, hey, harsh reality.
Ian
Yep. Shout out to a life.
Shoddy
But but yeah, so check it out at 12 o'. Clock. All right, Ian, any announcements?
Ian
Yeah, stock club call this week will be Tuesday at 9pm Central. If I made you money, please put yes in chat. Stock club prices will be out this week as well. There's a lot going on in the market, there's a lot of correction happening and a lot of fear. So tune in tomorrow, 9pm Central. I love you all and let's have an amazing show.
Shoddy
Let's get to it. So what's the investment fact of the week?
Ian
In light of the market being down, even Microsoft over its five year period is at the 50% retracement. I want to give you an insight over the last decade. Over the last decade, Nvidia is up 4,000%, Tesla's up 2,000, Meta's up 1,000, Amazon is up 500%, Google up 350%, Microsoft up 180% and Apple's up 85%. So even though in light of the market falling apart, in short, if you're holding for a 10 year period, there are massive returns to be had there. And point number two, going back to Amazon before 2030, you're going to see Amazon, which is massively invested in AI, replace all factory workers and all drivers. It would be 100% robotic, which means all of those workers are going to go, go away. And UPS and FedEx shortly will follow thereafter. So kind of like in 1998 and 99 when the Internet phase came in and the dot com era was ushered in and it changed the way the workforce was done. A part of the reason why you're seeing some of this correction and so much fear and we once we did this at the Nvidia tour, you saw that they already had the robots in Place. By 2030, Amazon is going to replace all factory workers, which is incredibly scary for the economy and those who work in those fields. So keep your eyes on companies that follow suit as well.
Rashad
Yeah, I think it's vitally important to look at these companies from a long term perspective. I agree. 100. I think we've had the privilege, I would say over the past six months to be at some of these hyperscaler companies. Obviously we visited Meta, everybody has seen us at Nvidia, we were at Microsoft. And every time we go to these companies there's a level of calmness that they have in these environments and shout out to everybody that pulled up to the options class last Thursday. It was incredible. But we unpacked Microsoft a little bit. From the standpoint of if you loved it at 500, you have to love it at 400. Right. But understanding the why, why it's pulling back. Right. Is it a software story, is it an internal issue, is it a catback story? And when you start unpacking the layers, you start to see a different picture. And so I look at it like, yo, this is a definitely opportune time but we have to see it as that and we have to figure out when we're going to accumulate shares. Right. So I've seen people say, hey, it was at 398 and today it's at 387. Do you still like it? Yeah, I like it even more. Yeah. Right. And so we got to have that long term perspective. The reason that the people are in these places feel so calm is because they know what's down the road. They can see the innovation. We kind of came up with this, this short term pain for long term gain. And literally we're watching that happen from a lot of the, the large cap or mega cap companies. They're taking some, some pain points right now. But the capex spend is because they saw the long term gain and long term vision, especially the Max 7. When they have the long term vision that's laid out and you can hear the conviction inside of the executives, it gives you a level of confidence as well.
Ian
And, and it's nefarious, I will be honest. But one of the reasons why a lot of these companies are incredibly excited is because they get to offload the cost of human capital and put it into non human capital being robotics. It's a great point that you brought up and it's kind of like if you're playing ball and you're watching the demeanor of a team, Amazon, Nvidia, Meta, even in this tumult that's going on in the market, like you said, they're incredibly calm, almost optimistic so much. But they can't show that to the public because there's so much unrest in the markets. But yeah, the thing to keep your eye on is how much because they to be a low cost provider you have to cut prices down. So while it sucks for the, the job market for them is going to knock their profit margin up probably 16 or 17, which will make them even more of a darling stock long term.
Rashad
Yeah. And that's something major for a company like Amazon. When you look at, we always talk about their margins, right. If you look at all the hyperscalers, they probably have the thinnest margins. And so you look at where it's being spent. If it's workforce, if it's insurance, if it's cab, they can, if they can figure out how to get greater margins. You're talking about 4 trillion dollar company. Right. And so like you can see why they're trying to spend as much. They're spending more than anyone because they know if they get those margins to move up maybe 5%, I mean, you're talking billions of dollars in revenue. And so it makes sense when you understand that story.
Shoddy
Yeah, for sure. And I think we definitely have to pay attention to the sign of the times. We got tariffs, a new round of tariffs that was announced as far as the Supreme Court said that it was, it was, wasn't, it was out of his jurisdiction to do the first round of terror. So he, he implemented a new global temporary terrorist. And we saw the Dow down 800, 800 points today. So I do, I do think this speaks to fears of AI. I mean, I don't know what you want to call it, an AI bubble or AI distribution or AI disruption.
Ian
Let's go, let's go with disruption.
Shoddy
But it's a, it's, it's, it's a lot can't, I know it. We can't ignore that. There's a lot of uncertainty and people that's, you know, nervous.
Rashad
Yeah.
Ian
And they have every right to be.
Rashad
Yeah. I, I think a disruption is, is very, I think that's a good choice of words. I think, you know, it feels, I was having this conversation earlier today. It feels like a little bit like 2025 in a sense. When we got to the end of January, we had the deep seat moment. Right. And then we had the idea of tariffs coming into place. And then I'm looking at reports now.
Ian
Right.
Rashad
Deep Seek is about to release 4.0. Right. I think the release is probably supposed to be imminent and it's supposed to shake up AI again. I'm like, we've seen this scenario before, right? We had tariffs last year. I'm like, this feels very similar. And what did we notice about that pattern? Right. We saw the mega cap companies pull back this time. It feels like the Max 7 specifically is getting hit, software is being hit, and we'll talk about that a little bit later. But what did they all do toward the 10 tail end of the year? Right. Nvidia dropped down to $97 in late January. By the end of December, we were at 189.
Ian
Right.
Rashad
So there was opportune times for us to say, okay, we've seen this story before, we understand how this is going to play out. The tariffs aren't going to be as widespread. I know, like last time he was saying, yeah, I'm charging 90% and 120% and we're going to double it if you try to match us. And now it's like this, hey, this is going to be this 10% tariffs. I feel like people have start to become desensitized to it. The interesting part around the tariffs is what happens on that back end, right, that refund that corporations are now going to be suing. So we just saw FedEx file suit today, right? They're saying, hey, we, we had to pay those tariffs. When is the refund coming? Where's that going to come from? We'll see. It's an interesting time, but if we pay attention to the signs, I feel like this story has played out before. So we just got to be patient. And when opportunities present itself, we got to invest.
Ian
One quick note. The difference is, well, notice this. Every time we say that the market is reflective of another year, it's not a positive year. We're not saying it looks like 2010, 2012. And also in the private markets, there's some contraction there. Blue aisle had 300 billion under management, 19 straight quarters of growth, but they're down 50% for the year. And now they're halting redemptions. That's a canary in a coal mine scenario. So, Rashad, to your point, a combination of tariffs and AI disruption, geopolitical unrest, growing debt, growing consumer debt. Even if you don't know a lot about the markets, you can feel like something is off and we're just not being told what it is yet. So while I do think it's an opportune time to invest, we have to be mindful of there's a bunch of cards on the table right now that are not for facing that look incredibly well or showing signs of a healthy economy or healthy leadership at all.
Rashad
Yeah, yeah. What does healthy leadership look like anymore?
Ian
It's been a long time. It's been a long time, Gavin. I know it wasn't a group of black people, but nevertheless, the commentary was not the best. Bill Clinton would never. Bill Clinton would have never. I'm the George Bush. I'm not even gonna lie.
Rashad
It almost. It feels like why not just.
Shoddy
We gonna talk about. Troy froze that again, right?
Rashad
Like what?
Shoddy
Yeah, you froze for a minute. But we're gonna talk about Gavin Newsom on blackout for sure because that was crazy in Atlanta. But let's do this. Let's talk about what's the trading tip of the week?
Ian
This one is brought to you by a great dear friend of mine. Kudos to Sharisha. We were having a stock club call last week and she dropped a gym that was incredibly important. For those of you that are working or let's say you're running the business, take three months, that is your least busy time of the year and only trade those three months. I think too often as traders we think about every trade we can take all year. Opposed to trading inside of a season and maximizing your trades there to get highest return on health, return on capital and to eliminate drawdown. So like even in the summertime when the market's normally falling apart, what we talked about it at the mastermind, that 523 point target worked pretty well today for the Dow. But you have a bunch of those moments in the summertime. I think it's a better use of your time to take three to four months to trade and say after these three or four months my season is concluded. Opposed to trying to trade year round and ending up with a lower return on investment and a horrible use of time. Doesn't mean you shouldn't practice and you're offseason. But I think truncating your trading season to three or four months is a hell of a way to get a lot of gain out of the market.
Rashad
Here, here's the interesting thing. What, what if we had to take three months? We know historically from you know, April that that three month period starting in April usually is the best time to trade. Or do we say we wait till September, October when we know there's volatility in the market. Do we, do we go there or.
Shoddy
Right.
Ian
Like me personally, if I had to only pick three, I'll do September, October, November, easy month. Maybe in the second week of December, add some but also too that summertime right before invest fest baby. It's always a great move there. But if I have to pick, I would pick fourth quarter and then take 50% of the capital put into long term and you'll be good. I think traders don't think or don't track what weeks and what months do you normally do the best in and what's your, how high is your profit factor and what's your highest return on investment season and just trade all year and then you end up being burned out from trading.
Rashad
Yeah, there is a burnout there. There, there is a burnout phase.
Ian
Yeah.
Rashad
Which is, it's unfortunate but that, I think that that goes part into that. Like we've said that over and over. It's like, make sure you have a plan. Just make sure you have a plan. Whatever it is, don't have to be a plan that we suggested, just have one. Because once you have it, you'll start to notice. And I'm glad we talked about it last week. Is that lack of discipline, right. You can always go back to your notes, say, wait, I, I said I was doing this. How, how did I get, how did I get here?
Ian
And it's usually looking at someone else's performance or portfolio and you now you end up chasing something and it's like, well, even if you see it on Twitter or ig, you don't know what losses they have in another portfolio. So 24 trades in a year is good. If you have a big size target, or even if you do 24 intraday trades and 12 swings or 6 swing trades, you, you should be good because if not, you're scalping. But if you're going for sizable targets, 500 plus points on the futures market, you shouldn't need 90 trades on the year.
Rashad
Yeah, and that type of aggression, you know, I had a, we had a friend of ours who was trying to open up a brokerage account and because he said that he was going to be aggressive, they didn't allow him to trade derivatives, he wasn't allowed to trade options or futures. And he was like, what happened? I'm like, what'd you put down on the selections when you were trying to open the progress account?
Ian
And then we went over it, I
Rashad
think he said aggressive income. And once he said aggressive income, they were like, so you had to call them and spend four hours on them. And then they finally opened it. But you just got to be mindful
Ian
of that because you're the liability on the asset sheet for the customer list. Less is more. Less is definitely more.
Rashad
They know potentially you're going to be using margin. It's going to be a whole mess.
Shoddy
Yeah, for sure. And speaking of that, Invest Fest, get your tickets. Last year we partnered with the good brother, Paul Judge. And he, if you don't know who Paul judges, he just made The Forbes top 100 list.
Ian
Incredible.
Shoddy
A VC legend in Atlanta. He's one of these people that, you know, has been responsible for bringing multiple companies to 100 million dollar valuations and more. So last year we handed over the realms of the pitch competition to him and it was the first year that we had it. It was focused on tech companies and the result was it was $125,000 pitch competition. He actually picked two winners. We had Jaylen Brown, we had Angela Simmons, we had two chains, we had him as the judges and he actually picked two winners and gave $250,000 away to 125,000 to two different entrepreneurs live on stage. So man, that's, that's pretty monumental if you really think about it. So we running that back. We, we running that back but we starting early. One of the, one of the biggest complaints that the team had with that didn't have enough time to really go through all of the things like how they really, really wanted to like they people wait to the last minute to do everything. So if you're interested this year we starting early. Early. The deadline is April 10th. That means after April 10th you will not be able to submit for the pitch competition. In my brain, I would do it now.
Ian
Tonight.
Shoddy
Yes. All you gotta do is have an Invest Fest ticket and you go to the Invest Fest website. There's a tab on the website and all the information is there. You submit you. It is a, it's a detailed process but that's to ensure that you know you a serious person. It's $125,000. Yes. Vendors can apply as well. And it's a tech. You have to have a tech component to your business. So I don't know why you would not do that especially if you're already going to Invest Fest. But even if you're not, I mean I think it's a great opportunity and like I said, I mean you saw it happen on stage last year. Two people won. 250, 000
Ian
great audience to get in front of too. Yep.
Shoddy
Yeah. Oh, 100 take advantage. Deadline is April 10th. That means I would start today. Tonight. Go to invest fest.com, fill out the application. The ball's in your court, man.
Rashad
Yeah.
Shoddy
What more, what more can we do?
Rashad
Two months. Two months of leeway. That's, that's, that's for sure.
Ian
And I don't know if you guys know capital is not flying around for entrepreneurs.
Shoddy
It's really not. And now they making it even harder. They making it even harder. The administration like it was always difficult to get money. It's even harder to get money now. So that's one of the reasons why we did it. And like I said, I mean we actually handed over to Reigns because he actually does this all the time.
Ian
Yeah.
Shoddy
And he's somebody that actually invest in companies and he's somebody that actually has a proven track record. So I mean you let the experts do what the experts do. So, man, I think this is, this is a tremendous opportunity for anybody that's interested. And hey, don't say we didn't try.
Ian
You don't do it again. With black history, it wasn't even as many mentions of black history and of course, like commercially they couldn't. Right. But even that is down. So you have to know funding is down. And once again, tunes to the episode Thursday because the new game is to then help you raise the valuation and on the back end, take all the money away from you. It's a dirty game.
Rashad
Please be mindful, be mindful of that. Be mindful who you're going into business with. Be mindful of who you're selling to if you do, but be mindful of where you're getting the money from. Right? Because a lot of times the money comes with equity. It's a, it's a dirty game that, you know, we're trying to pull back the layers on as we learn it, but there are seasoned vets inside of it that are taking advantage. So I mean, this is an opportunity of a lifetime.
Shoddy
And then the last minute I'll say is the. It doesn't have to be in even a successful running company. It could be a company that you literally just started. It's the idea that he will, he said that last year he's willing to invest in a company off of an idea. Now it has to be a little bit more, it has to be a little bit more than just an idea on paper, like, you know, to have a website. But it does not have to be a company that is up and running. That's important. It does not have to be an up and running company. It does not have to be a company that already has revenue, that already has employees. It can be at the very starter level. It could be, it could be a company at the very base level. So because I know that's a question and the last thing before we get back to regularly schedule program, somebody said, what can I expect to learn at Invest Fest? Is it about learning anything or is it just about socializing? Well, you're there for three days. I think you're going to learn. You're going to have the opportunity to learn everything. Real estate, credit, AI investing. And of course you'll be able to network. So what, what do you expect to learn? Whatever you're interested in learning. And as far as the network. And yeah, that's kind of obvious. If you do, if you're around 25,000 people, you should be able to network pretty Efficiently and black tie affair this year for VIP night. Okay, now having said that, what is the worst really?
Ian
Quick, back to the funding part. What percentage of the business do they have to give up if they win the prize?
Shoddy
What is it like? It's under 10%. I know that
Ian
because most people are giving up 25 to 40% of their company. Oh, no, no.
Shoddy
Or less. And mind you, most of the. Most of these businesses don't even have revenue. So you, you value, you value a business based off of multiples of your revenue. A lot of these businesses have never even generated any money. So technically the business is, is a hypothetical valuation anyway. So. Yeah, I mean it's a less than 10% stake. Um, and like I said that that's for most businesses that's not even. Haven't even made a hundred thousand dollars.
Ian
And I have him as a partner too. And that.
Shoddy
Exactly. That's a good thing too. It's not just about. It's like Shark Tank. It's not just about, okay, he's going to give you money to invest in your business. The guys, the guy's extremely wealthy person and he's, he's actually led companies to $100 million valuation. So it's not like they just invest in you. Like they actually become your business partner. They now as well. So he's mentor. It's a mentorship. It's, it's resources. It's, it's not just like, okay, here's a check and then, you know, try to figure it out. He has a vested interest in it because he's now your partner. So it's. And like I said, this is something that he's actually done. He's on, he's in Forbes. Look him up.
Rashad
They had him in the, the Forbes 50 innovators. He's in there. I mean, and there's some faces that you might recognize as well, but he's definitely in there.
Shoddy
Yeah, for sure. All right, let's talk about the risk matrix every trader should use.
Ian
Yeah. Please write these down. There's three. I thought it was a great question at the mastermind that I didn't get a chance to answer. And I want to answer tonight. So one, if the Vix is between 21 and 29, historically that's representative of a down market. Like when we are in a range from 9 to 15, normally we're bullish, but 21 to 29 is a down market and fear and greed is below 40. You have to look for intraday shorts to offset the losses that you're going to have in your long term portfolio. Put in chat. Where is the fear and greed index as of tonight? And also third, you want to look at this 125 day moving average at every stock that you're investing in and the indexes to see if they're under the 125 or they're above. If they're under, that means we are in the down market. A lot of companies are in a bearish cycle right now, Microsoft being one of them. But an early indication outside of the 72 is 125 day moving average. To be able to tell you to get a gauge, it's like an equator. So if they're constantly below the 125 we're in bearish territory. If it's above, we're in bullish. So 125 fee and greed being below 40 and the Vix being between 21 to 29, being representative of a down market will tell you which direction you should be going in in terms of your trades.
Rashad
I think I agree with all those. I'm going to add it because I know you hate it, but I still think RSI is important so people can have.
Ian
I don't hate it, but at what levels though?
Rashad
I know the levels you're going to say 95. 5.
Ian
No, no, we'll have to be that extreme.
Rashad
Okay, okay, I'm good.
Ian
I'm good with 70, 30 or even 80.
Rashad
Okay then that's a revelation because I know it used to be like 90, 10, 95 5. And I'm like, well, I don't know.
Ian
I've learned to keep some things in house.
Rashad
I think RSI is important. It tells you what the, the, the trend that the market is seeing. Right. So if something is below 30. Right. It's, it's starting to, it's trending toward, it's been oversold. I think Microsoft is kind of in that position right now, which is why I loved it as a company. When we start to see it tick over 70. All right, now that's overboard. That means that this company has run up, is had its run. We've seen it get as high. I've seen Nvidia at like 95. Right?
Ian
Yeah.
Rashad
that point we're talking about overboard and we'll probably see a pullback in that company. Will it be drastic? Maybe or maybe not. But when we start to see companies, especially the large cap companies, mega cap companies, when they start to get to that 30 and below or even once I start seeing like 40, I'm like all right, let's see where the trend is headed. Once it gets below 30, I'm like, all right, this is an opportune time. Now it's oversold. Is it a strong company? What are the fundamentals? Say, I love that you talked about the moving averages. We talked about Microsoft hitting this 400 day, going below that. All these things help take off that, that risk. All right, when people ask when should I invest, is this the right time to invest? If you take all those metrics, you have your answer. If you have all those metrics and they're aligned, then there goes your answer.
Ian
Okay, Rashad, I want to ask you as a conservative investor and you don't talk about it, but your win rate really high, being conservative, what metrics are you looking at to take risk off the table when you're looking to enter a trade?
Shoddy
What the number one thing is the price that you, the discounted price that you buy at. I mean of course the quality of the company and the price that you buy that like I said, it's like real estate. Like one thing I learned when I'm learning about real estate is that the, the win is on the, is on the purchase the entry.
Ian
Yep.
Shoddy
Not, not on the valuation, not on the. When it escalates over the course of time. As far as the price increase, not on the price increase. The wind has to be baked in.
Ian
Yep. On the purchase of the asset.
Shoddy
100. If you buy, if you buy a million dollar house for, if you buy a million dollar house and it's a foreclosure and you get it for $600,000, no matter what happens with the market, you are, you're already up. Because even, because now, because you got to factor in losses that could potentially happen. Anything could happen. So if the million dollar house, if, if it's a bad real estate market in the million dollar house is now valued at 800,000, well, you're still up $200,000. If you buy a million dollar house at $1 million now, it's shaky ground because yeah, it could go up to 1.5, but if it, if it is a slow real estate market and it goes down now, you underwater and you got to wait it out. It's the same thing with stocks. I feel like you can never buy stocks at the all time high and you got to buy good stocks but it's really about the price that you buy the stocks at. Like buying stocks at all time highs to me is like buying a house over the asking price.
Ian
Asking price. That's a Great point. Yep.
Shoddy
It could work out. It could work out, but you don't
Ian
want to hope that it does.
Rashad
Yeah, but that very rich and that. I think that's why having those metrics are important. So, like, if you're looking at the metrics, like, you're not going to do those things, right? Because the, the chances of a stock being at its all time high and it's relative. So somebody asked, what's rsi, Your relative strength index. The chances of it being at 30 are impossible.
Ian
But a lot of people bought a same with the houses they'll buy out of emotion. Well, this is my dream house. I don't want to miss out on the stock. It's going to go 5.5x from here, and it's like,
Shoddy
yeah, it's going to continue Bitcoin. You think that. Damn, once I hit 120, the next point is 200, 000. Like, I, I can't, I can't afford, I can't afford to miss 120 because now it's gonna be 20,000. And then right when you buy 120, it goes back down to 60.
Ian
Then you mad at me because I said it was going to 64. I'm like, wait, I'm just trying to help. I'm sorry.
Rashad
Yeah, but.
Ian
Sorry.
Rashad
Yeah, I'm, I'm with y' all both, I think, all valid points. I think the, the part is when somebody doesn't experience that, does that make them seasoned? Right? Like, you are going to make mistakes in this, in this space, do you think? I mean, we want to make sure that they make the right decisions, and you want to make sure you make the right decisions. But there's something about making those type of errors that build, like, your resilience, builds your emotional intelligence so that you don't repeat them. I think a lot of people, you know, either repeat them habitually or they'll say, like, I'm never doing that again. I'm out of it. But I think the people who stay and build the character and the resilience from it, those are the people that are going to be successful.
Ian
I agree. But sometimes bad habits begets bad habits. It's like saying, look at the crack is okay, in theory. I get it. But some mistakes are too costly. Right? Like, even, even for me, like, my favorite thing to do when I have time, right, is to go look at any negative commentary that detractors had and see if they've adjusted their investment schedule. The answer is usually no, because once you're in a Negative loop. You usually stay in a negative loop. Those that are positive stay in a positive loop. So you can take risk, but usually one of those risk goes really bad. And the other part is when you're investing, you have to factor in the forces are going to be against you. At some point there's going to be a headwind or tailwind in the market. There's that you're not expecting. Everyone who was pro micro strategy last year, even though he's invested in one of the greatest assets of all time created by Langley, the performance of the stock still is the performance of the stock. You have to factor that price in it. But like Rashad said, if you were buying that 75% off from the high, you're not bleeding as much as the people who bought last year. So you got to factor those things in. But I think sometimes a bad habit leads you to a infinite tunnel of bad habits that you can't get out of.
Rashad
No, that's fair. I think that's fair. I think people are seeing this, especially if you were in the software stocks or even if you in cyber security. Right. Like we've talked about cyber security for sure. And it was one of these things like, well, what do I do now? Well, if you were waiting and you were patient, this is your moment.
Ian
Yeah.
Rashad
Right. So it's again, it all ultimately comes back to what is your strategy? What is your strategy before you start.
Shoddy
Yeah. So unless your dollar cost averaging, then that's different. You put money in every single month, but never chase at all time highs. Let it go. And that's another thing. Don't be scared to let something go. If like sometimes you look at it, it's like, yeah, it's preview of Wednesday, but it's like, it's like a house too though. You see a house and it's like, you know, you, your wife loves it, your son loves it, your daughter loves it. And it's like you know in your heart that it's not a good financial decision for you, but you are emotionally, you're emotionally invested in it and you like, damn, if I don't get this house, I'm never going to be able to get a house. That's not the best way to look at it. Sometimes in life you got to have faith and you, you can't cave in just, just because you don't have enough faith that something better will come. Sometimes you just gotta wait it out.
Rashad
All right, here's the real question though, right? I know we don't invest at all. Time highs Right. But sometimes if you understand the story, you understand the company, you understand the sector, do you make the exception? The reason I'm asking every probably five times a day I get asked about should I invest in Micron, should I invest in SanDisk? Every day like every day now we talked about it when it was $220. We talked about it when it was $197. I'm speaking of SanDisk today is trading at $679. Obviously I'm not saying getting it here, but is it the new retracement level? Do we reset the retracement? Right? Do we reset it and say, all right, 30% from here or 20% from here? What, what would y' all suggest in that case?
Ian
Never invested an all time high. And I've given you the 72 day moving average now 125, 200 and 400. If you go through your weekly, daily and monthly and can't find the entry, you're not trying hard enough. Now, will it work out in the end? Usually yes. But you may have a four year period when you're in a drawdown and then you'll finally get back to break even. Like the Japanese stock market went through a drawdown for 30 years. I'm sure there's somebody who held the Nikkei from the top all the way through and they're happy that they are above water now. But it's a misuse of capital use the moving averages. Use your percentages from the high to be able to get in. Providing at the all time high because of hype. I never want to do that. Never. And most people don't have a hut split a hole for three or four years when it's down.
Rashad
True, I only, I know the answer to it, but I just wanted to ask it. Yeah, I'm still going to tell you, yo, it's 20. So when it, when, when micron runs up to 450 and it drops back down to 379, I'm like, well there it is. Or when this runs up to 729 and it pulls back to 522, here we go. Yeah, it's the, the idea that oh my gosh, it's not going to get backed. I, I, I feel it because I see the messages that come through and I'm like okay, they got to experience, that's why I was like, sometimes you got to experience it to really understand it. And then once you see it happen and you see it happen, you see it happen and you understand then you become More receptive to. Okay, I understand how the volatility works. I understand why this is. That plan was put in place. Now it's up to me just to execute.
Ian
Anytime someone tells you that an asset will continually run up forever and the price will never come and come down, they're selling you a scam.
Rashad
Get rid of them prices.
Ian
Retrace on everything.
Rashad
Get rid of them.
Ian
Yeah.
Rashad
Stop listening immediately.
Shoddy
Sometimes you buy a discount and then goes down even further. I don't think that's necessarily room for panic. Bitcoin is a perfect example. If you brought Bitcoin at 80,000, well that's 40,000 less than its all time high. That is something that will be considered a discount obviously. But then it goes to 60,000 and now you're down, you're in the red 20%.
Ian
Yeah.
Shoddy
I think that you just have to hold that long term because you don't want to just panic and panic sell because you brought something, you still brought it at a discount. You might not have brought it out the most optimal point discount. But if all things point to the direction when bitcoin is at $200,000, you'll be happy that you bought it at 80,000.
Rashad
Yeah, you know what, I would love to, for people to just take that into account. Right. Like if it's at 63,000, it gets to 70,000. Because it's at 70,000 doesn't mean oh my gosh, I missed it. I can't do it yet. You, you might have missed a 7%, 8% move. Think about the long term, like keep the long term. Right. Yet you might have missed that. Yeah, that 5 to 10% move. Yet you might have missed it. Okay, what do you think the growth is going to be over the next five to 10 years? Is it going to be greater than that? Ten. Will you even think about it in 10 years? Five hundred.
Ian
Right?
Rashad
Is it, is there a difference between 500% and 500 and 10%. Right. You, you put it your, your money in assets that are going to appreciate
Ian
bottom line and hold for the long term. That's why I started to show Nvidia is up 4,000% over 10 years. Tesla 2,000%. Last is Apple at 85%. Tim Cook, I love you. Make an adjustment
Shoddy
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Ian
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Shoddy
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Ian
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Rashad
Three. All three for sure.
Shoddy
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Ian
By the way, what kind of book holder you got? Swag okay, good. Attention getter.
Rashad
You deserve it.
Ian
All big facts. Write this down. Number one, concentrate on four stocks for 10 years. I would just. It kind of illustrated why. Number two, you have to learn how to build a business and trade at the same time. And from the revenue, take 50 of that revenue and put them into the companies that you're going to hold for 10 years. Number three, maybe we could talk about this one day. You have to put 10 to 20% into marketing. I know Rashad, that is one of the vehicles that you love the most. But in a business it's easier to get 5 or 600% return depending on the business structure that you have in yourself. Opposed to waiting. So use the business to generate cash and then put it into another long term vehicle. Find the businesses that you believe are going to change the world and invest in those. And then number five, you have to be the greatest in the world as something that you're good at. For me it was no matter what being able to determine the price of when to buy into an asset alone. If I made you money, please put yes in chat. That has been my gift to the world. But those five in combination is how you'll be able to get rich in the market. Regardless of what's going on on like whether the Dow falls another five weeks or six weeks. I know where to get in long term, know how to short it long term to profit from both sides of it. So those are my five things and five ways to get rich from the market.
Rashad
I'm gonna add number six. I think it's the most important one. Watch Market Mondays.
Ian
Big facts.
Rashad
Are we kidding? Are we kidding? The level of information, the level of research, the level of, you know, in depth thought that goes into this show every week. The returns that our audience have gotten over the past six years. The amount of millionaires, multi millionaires, thousandaires that have been made because of executing on information that's been given. The amount of guests that have come on here that shared information, there's nothing like it. I mean we're in it, so it's kind of, we're jaded by it, right? Like we're creating it. But the people that are benefiting from it, the communities that have been affinity from it, there's nothing like it. There really isn't anything like it. There was nothing before. So I gotta, I gotta selfishly put us in there as one of the the best ways to get rich in the marketing shot.
Ian
What about you? You got the power background, I see you.
Shoddy
Yes sir. Same Patrick I feel like you brought up a good point as far as the business is concerned, and that's something that we've always consistently said is you have to have money to invest money.
Ian
Absolutely right.
Shoddy
And so that's why it's like you watch earn your leisure to learn about how to make money from different entrepreneurial venues. You learn different skill sets. Like AI if you go, you know, have a higher level of education, if that's going, whatever you have to do to make more money, that's, that's, that's a priority. And then you have to have enough discipline not to spend money and to like, I saw a clip from your little boosie today that was pretty interesting. He was saying, I, he gets paid 200. He take 100 and just put it away. I don't know what he put it in, but he was like, he never wants to keep money in front of his face.
Ian
That's a great lesson.
Rashad
Yep.
Shoddy
And you got to have enough discipline to just always stash the money, Stash the money, put it away, put it away, put it away. But you got to have enough money to be able to stash. That comes from actually being able to earn money, but also not, not spending money and avoiding debt traps and avoiding things that's going to take money out of your pocket. So man, put as much money as you can. That's really, that's really the cheat code, honestly. Like, put as much money and you can to top companies at low, at low price points and just hold it for a long period of time.
Ian
And we talked about this at the mastermind, but this isn't optional. Like, the spending is so high on the government level. Like, there's even some people saying, like, if you have $300,000 today, you have the spending power of somebody in 1972 that wasn't that far ago of somebody who made 75,000. So you, you got to invest in the companies. And it used to be a luxury to be entrepreneur. There's almost a mandate now to be able to be okay, the price of a new car is 52, 000 medium price. It's insane. You got to pay to not get poisoned to buy healthy food. And we'll talk about it on blackout. But that Japan could be put up. So it's time to leave. It is time to leave.
Shoddy
That's a fact. It's time to go. It's time to go. America, it's been real. Three signs a stock is about the 10x1 for me.
Ian
They have a competitive advantage in a niche market. That no one else is great at. And they have 90 market share. So if it's a company who operates really well in the space, and when you think of that sector, they have 90 of market share, that's a great sign. Number two, they're consistently doing like revenues, compounding 25% to 50% year over year. And three, inside ownership is incredibly high. You can go to Yahoo Finance or CNBC and type in a stock. But if the inside ownership is not high, there's a reason why, like when we went to Nvidia, we had the fortune of meeting one of the founders, still holding on to some of the shares. Of course he's cashed out to some. But when I see a company CEO is actively selling a bunch of shares all the time, there's a reason why. And I like for the institutional ownership to, to be high, but they have to dominate a niche market. Kind of like how Nvidia did with gaming, AMD did with gaming, Apple did in a computer space, the music space. Then from there they'll grow. That's incredibly important to me. So those are like the three or four key metrics or KPIs I look at to know if a stock is going to 10x over the next five or six years.
Rashad
Yeah, all, all phenomenal. I think that demand piece is important. Having a creative advantage in the space, having a moat. I think having that moat, especially in your sector, it changes it. Right? And when I think about the memory story, that is exactly what it is, right? If we understand that every gpu, tpu, TPU is going to need memory, well, then they have a competitive advantage because they're going to be essential to the growth of the AI story. So what happens? Supply goes up, right? But demand becomes even greater than the supply. And that will show you, okay, we're going to see some relative strong tailwinds of growth in the near future, but there'll be a few, one or two that will be here for the long term. And so when, when you start to see demand, right, for a specific company or a specific task that a company does, and they have a moat around that space, man, those, those are all solid signs of something that's about to go.
Ian
And even to your point, sandisk, and you can argue Micron, they focus solely on their space. So well that when this AI inflection point came, they were prepared. They have been prepared for, for years. And shout out to all the creators that use SanDisk and Seagate, you know, like the entire class. Yeah, but they were prepped by Dominating a niche first and then all those inflection points. Yeah. Came after Rashad.
Shoddy
What about you look to see who's. Who's at the White house, see the CEOs.
Ian
You know what, it's not a bad take. And especially these last 12 years, it is a great insight for sure.
Rashad
Yeah. Governmental policy. Yeah. I think just to back to what you were saying about that, that the Sanders piece, I think they're opening up space for other companies because what, what they've, what they've done is actually, you know, they've focused on the AI segment. But even like a Micron who has focused on AI and focused on data centers, they've left a little bit of this telecommunications portion of their business and said, all right, well, somebody else can do that because we're for.
Ian
Yeah, we don't even want that. Yep.
Rashad
Right. So there, there'll be companies who come in, whether it's for automotives or, or if it, like I said, it's for tablets or computers. Somebody's going to come in with that drum technology and say, hey, I know those guys are thinking about the, you know, the big hyperscalers of the world, but we're here for the little people. Right. We're here for that startup company who needs that, that type of functioning for their memory. Somebody's going to be birthed out of that.
Ian
Rashad, what you be looking at when you look at the White House thing? Because the way you, you laughed, I'm
Shoddy
like, I mean, you know, like I said, I mean, coin, the thing about Trump is that he's cutting deals left and right. And for sure, he's definitely not hiding who's, who's he. Who's he, you know, partial to? Let's just say that. So I feel like a lot of CEOs have tried to get friendly with him, but there's a few, there's a few sectors and there's a few, you know, industries that, you know, have had direct lines of communication with the administration. And it's obvious. And even, even if you look at Palantir, I mean, it's obvious.
Ian
Yeah.
Shoddy
From a variety of different standpoints. Their line of communication with the government and the government's dependency on their technology and what they've actually already implemented from both administrations.
Ian
You saw the full force yesterday.
Rashad
Susan Rice said, yo, be mindful of those people. Right?
Shoddy
Then he said, Susan Rice needs to be fired immediately or pay the consequences. He told Netflix, get rid of her or pay the consequences.
Rashad
That's crazy.
Ian
That's tough. She.
Rashad
She said, Be mindful of the people who go visit the White house and the CEOs who cater to everything that the administration says. And he said, look, Netflix, get her off your board or face the consequences. Which is in line with what we already kind of envisioned. Right. Like the Ellison family, close friends of his. David Ellison is part of the Paramount group. They're going to do whatever they can to make sure that Paramount is in position to, to get Warner Brothers. It's all signs of point to that. I know Netflix kind of conceded a little bit saying like, go ahead, if y' all want to put another offer in, put another offer in and let's see what happens. But having. Putting Susan Rice out there is just crazy, man. It's crazy.
Shoddy
We also never seen somebody that was just so forward facing as far as telling companies what to do. And, and like, you know, he's publicly, people have done that in the past behind closed doors, but yeah, it was quiet. He did it on social media and he has done it on social media variety of different times. So he's, he's, he's meddling in private companies affairs publicly and he's also threatening private companies publicly.
Rashad
Of course. I mean, after he, the tariffs, you know, Supreme Court had the ruling when he got up and spoke to the, he said, look, we, we saved Intel. There wouldn't even be a tsm, Right. If they didn't steer our technology to go to Taiwan. Right. But we're going to bring that all back. Like he's saying, like we are. We. Look, intel is going to make it because we say it is. Like this is, I mean, State of the Union.
Shoddy
I think it's tomorrow. Tomorrow.
Rashad
Yep. So let's see if he thinks the, the complicit Supreme Court justices will be in there.
Shoddy
They're gonna be there. We'll talk about it on blackout.
Ian
For sure.
Rashad
For sure. Easy. Crazy, crazy times, crazy times.
Ian
Win.
Shoddy
Anything. Anything that deflect the attention.
Rashad
Well, we know that.
Ian
That was my first thought yesterday.
Rashad
Well, we, I think you had that conversation, Charlie. I'm like, yo, the, they're going to try to divert the attention with anything possible. Right? It's the tariffs two days ago was, yo, we're going to release the UFO files. I'm like, who cares about.
Ian
Yeah, nobody cares about the UFOs anymore.
Rashad
What are we talking.
Ian
People barely moved when Obama admitted on the podcast that they're real. People don't care at all. You know how bad the economy has to be for people to not even care about aliens being real.
Rashad
Oh my gosh that's real. Out here.
Ian
Going on outside, no man is safe from.
Shoddy
That's a fact.
Rashad
Three feet or eight? One.
Shoddy
That's a fact. What are three lies Wall street tells retail investors?
Ian
Um, kudos to everyone on Wall Street. When I say Wall Street I don't mean the people that I know, but the advice that has been given.
Rashad
1.
Ian
One, any common investment and formula that they give you is not the one that they're really using for themselves and their clients. So like the 6040 bond portfolio is dead number one. Number two, to focus on safety and not growth. I think it's fascinating if you're an
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Shoddy
Are you really buying a car online
Ian
on autotrader right now?
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Shoddy
At a playground?
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Shoddy
Wow, your search can really get that specific.
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Really?
Ian
And you just put in your info and boom. Cars in your budget.
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Ian
You can really have it delivered.
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Shoddy
I think your kid is walking talking up the slide.
Ian
Kyle.
Shoddy
Again.
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Ian
And I get it because you have rules as an advisor or hedge fund manager of what you can and cannot say publicly. And you're not supposed to talk your book even though the president does. They always tell you to focus on safety first when they are in the investments that are going to get them to 6,000% return over a 10 year basis. Number three, diversification is always safer than hyper concentration. That's a lie. Like but and I, I appreciate Buffett saying this that diversification is a tool for those who don't know what they're doing. Like if you know what you're doing, you want to hyper concentrate on that sector across the board. And lastly investing is born. Like if you look at even though they're having a poor performance this year since IPO, Microsoft is up 515,000%. Now I know some people may say, I mean I'll have 30 years to hold I get it. Right. But when you look at the long term holds of media properties, stocks, real estate businesses, those returns are astronomical. But somehow they trick us into believing the short term is the way to go. And I love trading futures, I love swing trading, but there's nothing like a good 10 to 15 year hold. So yeah, holding for the long term is born is the last lie that they often tell us.
Rashad
Yeah, I got, I got my three lies and one of them is similar to yours. I think diversification means owning 30 to 50 stocks like they say, like that. Right. So I mean we've always stressed like, I know your thing is too tech to index, but yeah, you don't, you don't have to own 20 companies, right? Like you could own five, let's say you just own the Max 7. Right. But you can still own ETFs that have a sector that has a bunch of companies inside of it. And so if you believe in a sector, whether it's QQQ and technology or it's XLK with technology, then you can invest in that sector and that gives you access and exposure to a lot of the companies that are going to be leading the market. Or you can invest in indexes like you said. Like it's two text, two index that leads you to diversification just by itself. The other one is that you said that retail, you said that investing is boring. My, my thing was like investing isn't for everyone.
Ian
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They try and put. That is too difficult.
Rashad
Yeah, it's too difficult. You don't want to do it. You know what, you should have somebody do it for you. You should have an advisor. And obviously they're doing it because they're going to make money from the person that is investing. Right. But if you learn the skill, I would argue that majority of the people who are watching us have opened their brokerage accounts and invested on their own and have had that. And that's, that was a layup just now. That was number three. Right. Retail can't beat the market. They don't like. Professionals have better information, better models, better access. How are you going to outperform us? And I would argue that there's a majority, a lot of people that I know have outperformed the market because, because of the skills that they're learning and listen to and applying in, in an everyday thing. So retail, I know we, we talked about it in a few interviews. They used to call it the, the dumb money. But slowly but surely, man, this is becoming in a very intelligent PO population of People who are saying, look, stocks pull back, we're buying right. Indexes pull back, we're buying right. We understand the metrics that we kind of alluded to earlier. And they're actually getting more and more seasoned in this and making some great returns, actually outperforming the market year after year. So, yeah, those would be three of those myths that I think that the. The Wall Street. Not the people, but yeah, the ambiance of Wall Street.
Ian
Yeah.
Rashad
The system of Wall street, the message that they'll try to get across.
Ian
Shoddy. What about you?
Shoddy
It's what Wall Street.
Ian
Are we referring to the broader ecosystem, not the people that we know? The broader construction and system of Wall Street?
Shoddy
Well, because there's two Wall Streets. So when, Troy, when you say, like one of the greatest misses saying that a general investor can't beat the market, they're not actually wrong when they're saying that. Which mark. Which market are we referring to? We referring to the S and P? Are we referring to S and P? S, P, the market. The S and P. Because there's a market. There's a market where people are getting 30 every single year, no matter what is happening. And compounding, investing in companies that don't even exist and making $5 billion. And that is.
Ian
That's another.
Rashad
You know, that's a different. No, no, no.
Ian
But here's the thing. Like, that was about that market, though. That.
Rashad
That world. And. And I know what he's loing to. Because we've been in these conversations like that world. How many people are even familiar with
Ian
less than half of 1%?
Shoddy
That's the problem.
Rashad
So it's the problem. But it's tough to bring people to that point when we're still trying to master this. Right. So let you know me. You know, I mean, Can we talk about that market? I don't think we could talk.
Shoddy
I mean, we could definitely. I mean, it's one of these things where there's definitely. It's like you go to a casino and you see a roulette table. You got the blackjack table, you got craps table. And then. But there's a room that you don't see when Michael Jordan is playing. Michael Jordan is not playing on the Bellagio floor. There's another room. There's another room.
Ian
Yeah, the super high rollers tables. Yep.
Shoddy
It's another room that they're. There's another. There's another room in this investment game. There's another room where guaranteed returns. Making. Making an investment for the return and then making Companies go public via SPAC and getting $5 billion on the, on the exited. Trump is showing you this if you really pay attention. He, he made a, he made billions of dollars off the crypto thing and then made the UAE buy the coin and then did the revers is this is not even.
Rashad
Don't forget true social.
Shoddy
So of course we are educating the audience and then yes, people are making money for sure. But there is an unfair advantage and there's things that really nobody can beat the system. If the system is, if we're talking about that system.
Ian
Yeah, the real program, the real financial program.
Rashad
The, the level of capital to be in those spaces is cumbersome if you're
Shoddy
really going to be honest about it. Jeffrey Epstein was
Rashad
like, come on man, what are we doing man? What we, what are we doing? What are we doing?
Ian
Make up another name. Come on.
Rashad
I was just saying like by percentage, right? Like even in. No, obviously the, the amount of money that is being moved in those rooms, large scale, I'm saying for the retail people, right. Can they beat a financial advisor or broker who's going to say hey, we can get you 7 to 10% for the year? Of course they doing that hand over fist now. 20% on 10 billion.
Ian
What are we talking do tell about international arbitrage?
Rashad
If you are easy, easy, easy, easy.
Shoddy
But yes, but yes, you can definitely, you can definitely traveling, you can definitely earn more money just like in a Chase bank. No disrespect to Chase, but any bank advisor, if a bank advisor is just investing your money for you, yes, you can earn more money as a retail investor. You don't necessarily have to have a bank investor investing the money for you. Nine times out of 10, they don't really know what they're doing anyway. You know, they'll put you into just a regular general index fund which you could honestly just do yourself. But you know, once you listen to Market Mondays, you invest in strong companies at good buying points and yeah, you're gonna, you're gonna outperform what you know, a general investment account or general retirement account is going to do. And you don't have to be somebody that's dedicated to the stock market to do that. You don't have to watch stock charts all single every day, all day to figure out, you know, to have some long term hold that you can actually get good returns over the course of time. So yeah, that's definitely true. But one day we will have like,
Ian
even with that, they just announced the World Health Organization that we were going through A water bankruptcy. And a lot of people was like, yo, CGW is finally moving to the upside. And I'm like, the real money was made on the short of the bankruptcy of the water. You need a hundred million dollars per contract to trade it though. It's different rooms.
Rashad
Yeah, it's like, yo, you can't sit and this is a million dollars a hand.
Ian
Yep. Interesting.
Rashad
Allegedly. We might have heard, we may have heard these things.
Shoddy
Allegedly. Hit the like button and share.
Ian
Yes.
Shoddy
Okay, let's talk about four AI approved stocks to invest in. And I actually saw something today. Well, I'll let you say your four. What's the. No, go ahead, bro. They were talking about Walmart. They was talking about, you know, I think Walmart's up 14 this year. Walmart cooking, Procter and Gamble, There's a few of those type of consumer staples stocks. And the theory is that everybody's scared of AI bubble. Everybody's scared that artificial intelligence is overpriced and it's just too much. So when in times of uncertainty, you go back to what you know, everybody knows Walmart, everybody knows you got to use toothpaste, everybody knows you got to use life essentials. A lot of the other stuff is hypothetical. Could potentially happen. Robotics could potentially be 100 million humanoid robots. Who knows? But I think that, you know, if you look at those stocks, they're outperforming the Mag 7 for the year and they're outperforming the market overall for the year, those consumer staple type of stocks. So those, those stocks have done well. And I think it's a direct correlation to people being nervous about artificial intelligence.
Rashad
Absolutely. You want to go, Ian?
Ian
Yeah. It's mentioned, you mentioned Walmart because. Number one on my list.
Shoddy
Yeah.
Ian
From a technological standpoint, when their profit margins are low, their competitor Amazon, Walmart does not get looked at as a technical, logical behemoth. But over the last 10 years, they've done an incredibly great job at reinvesting there. So Walmart for me is number one, Amgen is number two, Eli Lily is number three, and Lowe's is number four. If I have to take away all tech facing, Walmart is one for sure. Amgen and Lily, it's like having Kobe and Jordan on the same team like you. Now you got to pick your poison. And then Lowe's doesn't get talked about enough in that space for how well they're managing their company and managing margins and continuing to innovate. So those are the four I will lean on if I couldn't look, if I was worried about an AI bubble or AI disruption, those are four that I wouldn't have to worry about for 10 to 20 years. That will be okay.
Rashad
All right, I appreciate those are. I mean, that's all. I love to hear y' all opinions first because I'm like, damn. All right, well, I'm not gonna say that one. I did have Walmart as well, I think. I think everything that you guys said was dope. I'm gonna go. My first one is Caterpillar, and I know it feels like it. This is like the AI story because of the energy. But prior to it being an AI story, it was a strong category leader in this space. Profitability was clean. Was clean. I mean, are we going to stop needing construction equipment anytime soon? Right. If industrials are performing the way they are right now, then that means positive signs for a company like Caterpillar. So that would be one in mind. And I mean, you can just see how it's performing in addition to the energy constraints that we have here, how it's performing with that added segment. Calipers are doing great. We had a company on our class the other day and they gave away a gem. And when I'm gonna say it, Ian, I know you're gonna have a reaction. I think Monster Energy is one of the ones you got to have for sure.
Ian
Quiet killer, no pun intended. But
Rashad
when you talk about leader in a category again, profitability, cl, Clean balance sheets. I wrote down in my notes the recurring demand for energy drinks that's not going anywhere. Cash flow was good. And you look at its return since its inception. 56, 000. It's performing again.
Ian
Well, this chart is crazy.
Rashad
It's absolutely ridiculous. Ridiculous. The ticker is mnst. Monster Energy. I mean, brand partnerships continue to grow internationally. It has a stronghold that is one of the ones that it just even like, like I said, like this year we're still year to date where we at, we're up 11 when. Yeah, I mean, outperforming the Max 7 is. You know, I think only one of them, maybe two of them are positive for the year, and Nvidia is one, so that would be one. And then this is. This is a. This is a tricky one. Walmart was there. I had cloudflare on there because it's AI adjacent. But AI is going to need Cloud Fair in a way that. And I know it got pulled back a little bit. The software will be needed to help AI. Right. It was a business prior to it and we watched that run up when it was $85. We were, we were talking about this company, got up to 145 and ran past that as well. But when I, When I talk about Cloudflare and some. A security standpoint, people are like, well, what does it do? I'm like, you know when you try to log into a site and it asks you, like, pick out the. The three bicycles.
Ian
Yeah.
Rashad
To authenticate your actual human. That's Cloudflare. Or when you got the puzzle piece that you got to slide over to
Ian
make and match it.
Rashad
Yep. And match it. Right. Like, AI can't do that just yet. Right. So you still need the human piece to do that to all authentic. Authenticate the. The person that is doing the transaction. Cloudfare does that. As we get more in depth into AI and we see, like, how are we going to authenticate actual human interaction? I think it plays a major role in that. I would put that in there and obviously I have. Walmart is for. So that would be mine.
Ian
Yeah. And to the person in chat who asks how the. These are AI proof stocks. So if we are going into an AI bubble or AI disruption, these are the companies that are safe from that bubble. Not the best AI stocks to invest in. We've covered that endlessly two or three years ago. I appreciate you. I love you dearly from the bottom of my heart.
Rashad
We love you daily. Cloud flare because Net.
Shoddy
Somebody said, what are my shirts? So the shirt actually says, when it comes to women's sports, six figures ain't enough. So this is a. A brother that has a shirt. If you've been studying the inequity in women's pay versus men, that was a big thing when it comes to, especially the wnba. They actually think they might even go on strike at some point. As far as the amount of money that they're paid, of course, there's a variety of different factors that go into it, but they are championing that they want more money in the professional sport. Sports world. So the woman's. The woman's sports being underpaid is a big thing even in the Olympics. The soccer. The soccer team actually won. Won the Olympic. The. The men's team didn't even make it out of, like, first round. And the men's players getting paid more than the women's.
Rashad
I mean, women's soccer is far more dominant than the men's phenomenon. Not even close. Not even close. But yeah, you're right. I think they're. They're headed toward a collective bargaining agreement. I know Nafisia Kalia, who's the head of. She has some choice words to talk to. Talk about the. The. The head of the wnba. And then when you watch what they're doing in unrivaled. Right. And the player is making more in a one on one tournament that she makes as a salary. It's telling something, something's not.
Ian
That was a tough tournament too.
Rashad
Yeah, they were.
Shoddy
Speaking of that. Speaking of that one on one tournament. Yo. Has he. Did you see that?
Ian
No.
Shoddy
I said, you know who has he is destroyed. He got destroyed.
Rashad
Oh oh, oh oh.
Ian
Yeah.
Rashad
Yeah. Killed.
Shoddy
Destroyed. He lost twice. He had two bam. It was bad. I think it was 35 to 4. It was bad. That.
Ian
Wow. Against who?
Shoddy
I forgot exactly who he played, but it was bad. Like it was very.
Rashad
That. That's something they got to bring. If they bring that to the. To All Star weekend.
Shoddy
Oh no. Nobody. Nobody.
Ian
They're afraid it's all. It's gonna be all rookies.
Rashad
Kyle want that smoke? Kyle?
Ian
Nobody wants to go against Kai.
Rashad
That that's the problem. Who wants to play against him?
Shoddy
Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards said he would do it.
Rashad
That would be a nice match because we saw. But we saw what happened to Western Conference finals. We already saw that. You don't want. That's a lot of smoke.
Ian
Yeah. Caitlin Clark, that Peyton Pritchard. I know that bothered you but Peyton Pritchard cooking for sure. But he had a good game.
Rashad
But he's tough now. He's tough. He's tough. Six man in the year. Yeah, he's tough. Yeah. That's crazy. She just knew
Shoddy
as he has. He got her.
Ian
He got. He got smoked. 35 to 4.
Shoddy
It was bad. It was real bad. How to gain. How to gain a single edge advantage. How to gain an advantage and single stock futures.
Ian
Yeah, I thought. I think this is fascinating. So in a couple months you'll be able to trade the futures on let's say Nvidia, Meta, Apple, Microsoft, etc and a few people have been asking me how to get an edge. Trade the futures that you have now. Nasdaq, es, ub, natural gas to trade two slow ones. So like ES and ub, which is the bond market and two fast ones, NASDAQ and natural gas. But a few people have asked me my thoughts on it and I'm like, if they don't pay more than the indexes, the same way you have to wait indexes first. You have to wait the index futures when you're trading first because the volume may not be incredibly high. I'm glad that the futures market is finally trying to keep up and compete with the options market. But it may be too little, too late to be honest. So unless it pays dramatically more than ES or UB or zb, there's really no need to do so because there's not enough volume there. So I would say practice it. Wait three or four months to the volume comes in. But unless the tick value is so high that it makes sense to do so, I wouldn't even worry about it. Not for the first three or four months. Same as with any IPO. No exceptions. OpenAI, anthropic, it doesn't matter. And also going back to that under market, the reason why I always say to wait six months to nine months is because the real game is to get into the pre ipo. Everybody's waiting to just exit like once they're in at $8 a share, $22 a share. The first 30 days of the IPO doesn't matter. That's. That's liquidity.
Rashad
Yeah, but that's part of the game too. Like that. Yo, it's the lockup period. What happens when the stock falls and you're in a lockup period?
Ian
Tough. But, but like Rashad said earlier, getting into those seat rounds or series A rounds where if, even if it drops to 10 bucks you your coverage of basis because you're in that 455. 4,055 cents on average. That's the real game. That's the real game.
Rashad
Yeah. Getting that, that, that at 50 cents. Something like that.
Ian
Yes. Yep.
Shoddy
Ti we'll talk about that.
Rashad
That second, that second verse is hard. That second verse is hard because I mean there's a lot of truths in that second verse.
Ian
Alumni. Both, both invest fest alumni. But is this a rollout or No?
Rashad
I, I feel like he's gonna turn it into it.
Shoddy
Blackout.
Rashad
I mean we, we know the album coming.
Ian
Yeah.
Shoddy
Yeah. It's one of those things, you know.
Ian
Oh, Paige is a.
Rashad
Wait.
Ian
Paige is 100% better than Caitlyn. If you have to pick between Paige and Caitlyn, who you picking? Shot Troy.
Rashad
I'm Kaylin.
Ian
For just on the ball stuff or marketing.
Rashad
She's a little bit more dynamic. A little bit.
Ian
Yeah.
Rashad
Paige is tough. Paige is super tough.
Ian
Yeah.
Rashad
She's champion. Yeah. I think Caitlyn stretches obviously stretches the floor a lot. A lot more. Just more. A little bit more dynamic.
Ian
Yeah. Okay.
Rashad
I'm taking Asia Wilson. That's what I'm taking.
Ian
And she does not get talked about enough.
Rashad
Enough. The, the best three time champ. That's what I'm taking.
Shoddy
Okay, okay. What is the future of Meg of mega cap stocks?
Ian
I'm here to tell you even though emerging market may be sexy right now because the mega caps are down as I illustrated at the top of the show. If you're holding for a long term, you're fine. I, I'm noticing too many of you are trying to take the advice and make it fit your trading thesis for a one week period. I don't care about the one week synopsis of anything. But if you think mega caps are going to fall apart and now the Coast B is going to take over or bovespa or Nikkei, not so fast. Even though we have a lot of issues here in the country as a whole in terms of innovation, that's not one of them. So continue to hold Mega cap for like. And I know some of you may want emerging market exposure. I mean the ones to invest in I've already covered Marado Libre I love dearly like there's a few. We've covered tsm. But if you rotate out of mega caps because the fund is going to that other side of the room, a lot of them are playing arbitrage in a portfolio and you can't do so because you don't have enough capital to do so. Also be be aware when you're hearing these stories of emerging markets should overtake Mega Cap in the next three years. That is PR and rollout TI and the 50 cent thing for their portfolio as they're actively selling that fund to a client home for 10 years. Like the whole show should be holding for 10 years. Let's check in 2036 if I made you money. Please put yes in chat. Sorry.
Rashad
Yeah, I mean do we. What else are we supposed to say? Yeah, you're gonna invest in, in the mega cap companies. Yep. Right. The Max 7 make up 30. I think they're weighted at 33 of the S P. Yeah. I mean what are we talking about?
Ian
About.
Rashad
What are we talking about? You got. Especially when they are at discounted prices. Go. You know what, I'll just go back to Microsoft. Go look at what the rating is on Microsoft for the end of 2026. Look at the price targets. Right. Even what it. It's pulled back the way it has. The price targets have, have not changed. And that's consistent over like 40 different analysts.
Ian
How do I know?
Rashad
Because I looked.
Ian
Right.
Rashad
It really hasn't changed. Obviously there's some internal things that they got going on but when, when it gets to a point like this, this is Too important of a company, too big of a company that has different verticals that are not solely reliant on open AI. Right. Like cloud service is a thing. Right. Co pilot is a thing. These things are important and they have revenue. If you understand where that revenue comes from, you understand that this story is, I mean it's in a consolidation phase. It's actually in a, in a correction phase now. But a lot of other max sevens are in correction. We watch Nvidia and we know we got the super bowl coming up on Wednesday after, after the market closes. But yeah, if they consolidate, you find an opportunity where you can buy in that.
Ian
Yeah. Three years from now, Microsoft should be at 767.97. If that open AI marriage don't work out, they got another partner waiting in the wings. I promise you they will. They won't be single. No, don't worry about it.
Rashad
Oh, they ready. I mean well known who the partner
Shoddy
is,
Rashad
how they hold hands for real
Ian
and drop Microsoft just like this. Like Kim K and, and Lewis Hamilton.
Rashad
They're like, I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to do with my hand.
Ian
Yeah.
Rashad
Yep.
Shoddy
We're gonna be going over, we're gonna be answering questions too in a little bit. So stay, stay, stay tuned for that. Okay. Crowdstrike, strike and Cyber security. What's the deal?
Ian
Wow. Claude put out a tweet that they have a tool that allows them to find effective parts of Software and sent CrowdStrike falling apart and a few others. Is it something to be worried about? In the short term, yes. Long term, no. I think they'll get a way to fix it. But I've long said one of these AI companies is going to find a way to create decay in one of these cybersecurity companies to then be the solution. Going back to story, there's a lot of people that were former criminals and were hackers black hat. And then they got a contract big enough to go white hat for Microsoft to work internally. You can see this coming as clear as day. And for those you use an open claw. Be careful that the information that you don't want integrated into openclaw is off the Mac Mini that you're using and you're gonna give it full access to everything like your imessages and like the lady did at Meta. But I think it's a genius way to get market share in the industry and it goes back to the fear point. CrowdStrike of course is a solid company. They've had some missteps. But if you already love OpenAI or anthropic, and they can then do this cybersecurity for you. Well, wouldn't it behoove them to do so before they go public? So it's a lot of engineering being done in the market right now, and you have to be incredibly mindful of it. But should you be worried? Yes. Should you leave the space altogether? No. But you have to be mindful of the price of what you pay for the asset. Crosstrek was down 7%, Cloudflare was down 8%, Palo Alto down 1.52% and Zscaler was down 5% as a result.
Rashad
Yeah. Cloud code security. That announcement changed a lot of things. I said this before. CrowdStrike is in the portfolio. It's going to continue to be in the portfolio. In fact, we may add some calls here in the near future on CrowdStrike as the leader in the space of cybersecurity. I think it's one of these things when, when you find out information or area that you lack in and somebody points it out very glaringly. Right. The worry is, well, if they are doing that, then why do we need you until you realize your enterprise? And then CrowdStrike has the innovation to say, all right, well, I'm glad that they showed that that was a pain point for us. Here's our solution for it. I think that's what, you know, we got to be patient with, especially being, being in the space of the age of artificial intelligence, in the age of authorization and authentication of human bots. And I mean, we're in a space where security is going to be at the forefront and they're going to be leading it. So again, you know, these moments happen in sectors. We saw it in software already this year. We're now seeing it in cyber. Strong companies will be here. CrowdStrike is the strongest in the space. I'm not going anywhere. I, I wouldn't suggest anybody goes anywhere if they're in this already or, and if you're trying to. That this is approaching a nice point where you should maybe start entering the position.
Ian
But now not the time for you to be in weak companies. If, if Clark Code sending this sector flying down, it tells you the weakness in the market and how much fear that is currently there. So be mindful.
Rashad
How many, how many jobs get replaced? If this actually pans out a ton, how many contracts? So how many contracts get replaced? Who gets that business? Does Claude now come into the space with this major mega cap partners, Amazon, Microsoft? What do those contracts look like if they start right. I don't know if Carl Strike is the is the company that gets taken down but you know those lesser tier ones that are not number one and two in the space smacked.
Ian
Yep.
Rashad
They go. They're gonna get beat up a little bit.
Shoddy
All right let's let's go to. Let's go to some audience questions if we can. I know one that has been mentioned a few times. They said that is now the time to drop the bag on Nvidia.
Ian
No, we're not even remotely close to a like it's been ranging like if you look since this year. Well let's go back to even August it's been ranging from 169 to 205. We're not at that place when it is that time I'll be sure to let you know. But if you want to know where to get in and where to get out and never have to guess about what prices to get in go to Ian invest.com stock club call will be tomorrow 9pm central prices will be out. Last month I think I put out 72 stocks in total. Sign of the times of which we're in but no, we're nowhere near close for that to be the time for Nvidia Court. The earnings will be interesting to hear but you should look where until we get to 16116 we're not in a zone to worry yet. We're not. We're not zone to worry yet. Not even close.
Rashad
Yeah I don't know if this is throw the bag at it especially when it's this close. I mean we're well positioned inside of Nvidia calls and obviously having you know thousands of shares in it love the company will stay in the portfolio will it will lead the portfolio rodeo but we've just been seeing it consolidate and I would say over the past three months it's just been going between 179 to 194. Like you know every time it gets to that resistance level of like 194the past, especially the past two weeks it's just like yeah hits his head and falls back down. So to see it to get 200 that'd be great. I think they're going to be earnings but we've seen beating earnings doesn't mean that the company is going to just go on a historic run. Right. Like we're talking about a four and a half trillion dollar company to have that type of move up past 200. I know we're at a peak of 213. I think in October to get back to those levels, it'd have to be something remarkable. I think Jensen, you know, they will deliver. They'll talk about how the demand is still there. And I think he's, he's teasing a new product, a new product that the world has never seen. I think they're going to debut at gtc, which is in a few weeks. So I mean I think it beats, I think you, you got to have the company in your portfolio. I'll be interested to see what happens. The percentage it goes up or down. I think there's like a, a 6% right now on the option side. Positive or negative, that the, the stock moves either direction. I think if you're tracking it from a technical standpoint, look at the 200 day EMA, right? Look, look what asset said. I think last time I checked it's like at 173 or something like that. If it starts to pull back, what happens when it hits that support level? Does it go lower? If not, I think it, it gets to that number that Ian's talking about. That's when we might start saying, all right, well we got some calls here, let's add some more long term at this point, if you're sitting in 26 with 26 calls, I'm hoping that you got some 27s and if you got some 27s, maybe you go out to some 28s. That's always been the strategy, right? Like just rinse and repeat this thing. So yeah, big on Nvidia. I'm looking forward to it. Like I said, every quarter it's the super bowl of earnings because 7% of the the S and P weighted is dependent on that. And that could tell us, you know, where the AI story is.
Ian
But if they're the only one who's up, it tells you how fragile the market is too.
Rashad
So if they're the only ones that's up, shouldn't they be if the demand. Right.
Ian
Yeah, but it's like only having one person on your team that can get a bucket out of seven. It's not a good sign. Everyone's waiting for the ball to drop and that's when the great buys were coming. I saw somebody putting the comments is now at the time about Novo off generational or multi year lows. Buying Novo right now is like investing in the rapper that just got shot that's about to die with no album and the tuck. No, leave it alone, leave it alone now it's not the time to gamble if and also too if we don't have quantitative easing and that's what made a lot of tech float up in perpetuity. There's no reason to gamble right now. You have to invest in quality companies. There are no easy wins right now. None. Microsoft has dropped okay from his all time high. How much is Microsoft down? Please put in chat. That's my baby. With great structure, great innovation. It went from 555 to 384.47. This is not the time to invest in something new. Now if you can hold Novo for 15 years and they finally get a bump because of some island pirates, go there and invest in another category and maybe they get an upswing in four years or six years maybe. But no, they're not touching Lily at all. Or Amgen.
Rashad
You know that mean Lily today was on an incredible run. They, they just announced that they had the, the injection that has a month worth of supply inside of it. Like yeah, I wouldn't touch Novo especially if Lily's there. And sometimes you. Let's just watch how the sector performs. I think him's reports this week. If it's not tomorrow, I'm not mistaken. Let's see what happens inside that sector.
Ian
You want to see a dead body.
Rashad
They said don't step on his work. They said they stepping on the work.
Ian
Not looking good.
Shoddy
Dollar cost average or wait for a pullback.
Ian
Wait for a pullback. Lightning once again like diversification is a tool for those who don't know dollar cost averaging without price basis is the equivalent of that you always want to buy based on price. Always one of my. When I said in videos going to drop to this level last year and then went from there. A lot of y' all made a lot of money percentage based drops. Mathematics matters more than anything so. But do what you want.
Rashad
I love you
Shoddy
Robin Hood.
Rashad
I still, I still got it in my, in my top 10. It's taking a beating right now as well. And we talked about it. I feel like last week we talked about it. But yeah you're talking about a brokerage that is going to be here and we're talking about the population and the user account has increased obviously crypto, you know trading the way it has it has affected it. Options trading has, has done well. Predictive marketing is a market that is not going anywhere man. They had a 3% increase in it last quarter. I don't think that's that slows down. In fact we, we thought it was. I thought initially it would be sports but they're saying that they're seeing the predictive market in things that we wouldn't expect like weather contracts whether like the the most random things like are we our tariffs going to be more than 15 like they're seeing big wages on that and so yeah that I mean you can do that every day. Every day there's something yeah.
Ian
I love Robin Hood. I think them meta are a canary in a coal mine for what's like going to that other room of investing. They know the truth about what's happening and the economy. They're front running some of this as well. Robin Hood I love long term love let us the founder but we are having liquidity issues. We're having private credit issues. We have in massive restructuring. A part of the going to the episode Thursday a lot of the creativity and dilutable shares that's happening is to prepare for the recession that's coming. I know some of y' all that are leaning towards a certain political party may not like my take on tariffs but the one thing that you can't argue with is that debt to GDP ratio going through the roof. Where's Doge Elon got his money. Where's Doge though they don't exist. Biden was bad too. We've had bad leadership for a long time. Like I said going in my lifetime I can probably name two good presidents. I never thought I would want to see George W. Bush come out of retirement to replace. Replace. We can't. Yeah we can't the replace a better president.
Rashad
You're saying replace the person who's here now.
Ian
We wouldn't.
Shoddy
You said Bush was Bush was a better president.
Ian
Am I, am I wrong?
Shoddy
What's arguably the worst president in American
Ian
history Did he got the dime dropped on him? If we're gonna be honest about it. He got got screwed by Rumsfield. The housing thing.
Shoddy
He didn't call like he's not a bad. I don't think he's a bad person. I think he's incompetent. Incompetency can be worse than evil.
Ian
Worse than Trump.
Shoddy
Incompetency can be worse than evil because. Because you could be an evil genius and still actually have some level of productive productivity even though you with your overall thought process is to is create chaos and to be an agent of destruction. If you're incompetent you're going to get led by other people.
Ian
You don't think Trump isn't being led by Saudi and open AI led by.
Rashad
I don't know led by. I I think what? What?
Ian
Jesus.
Rashad
I think what you just Laid out was a great microcosm. Right. In competency versus evil. Because the argument could be made, and I think, Ian, you would agree that Cheney, Rumsfeld, for sure, hands are all over his administration at this point. Can we. Can we really put somebody.
Ian
Yeah.
Rashad
What's happening here?
Ian
We can't say their names, though.
Rashad
And it's.
Ian
It's.
Rashad
Yeah, yeah. You. You take into account the wars that we were involved in. You took an account to the financial crisis, obviously. I mean, it's on his. It's on his vest. Right.
Shoddy
I mean, the crazy thing about it is that I said Elon was, like, very similar to Kanye and he was similar to Rumsfeld.
Ian
Not to cut you off.
Shoddy
He's similar to Donald Trump, too, if you really. If you really want to think about it. Because even if you watch 60 Minutes yesterday, when we was talking about the South Africa thing, when he was talking about the genocide, they went to South Africa and they were talking and they were just saying, like, I mean, it's a ridiculous claim to make, but they were like, he's getting fed information. Donald Trump learns through information that's being fed to him. That's how. That's how Kanye west learns. Kanye west learns through information that, like, you could say something to him, and then he's like, yeah, that's what. That's what it is. But. But Trump's really no different. Trump, literally, he said people.
Ian
Yep.
Shoddy
He said that there was a genocide from white farmers in South Africa because that was information that was fed to him. He didn't. He didn't do any research. He doesn't actually know what he's talking about. There's two people that was killed. Two. Two white farmers that was killed last year. But he's not that far off. But I still don't think that he's fully incompetent. I don't think Donald Trump is incompetent. I think George Bush is incompetent. But we could talk about it on Blackout. Who's. Who's. Who's the worst president in the last 30 years?
Ian
That's way better than Biggie and Tupac, for sure. I mean, I love that part of you, Andrew 2000.
Rashad
The worst president of our lifetime. That's how we'll paint the picture.
Shoddy
Trump is the most dangerous. I don't know if he's the worst.
Ian
If you are the most dangerous, doesn't that make you the worst?
Rashad
Well, he's not done yet. Well, you know what? He's not done yet, bro.
Ian
This one year feels like Three. And. And I'm not just saying that because I'm like, I know some. Some devout Republicans that feel this way. I'm in Texas.
Rashad
Like, is he the most egregious, most evil? I give you that. Hands down, in my opinion, allegedly.
Ian
But let's talk on Wednesday.
Rashad
Yes.
Shoddy
Another question from the audience was about. They said that they brought Meta stock, I think at like $38. And they said that they. They've been with Meta ever since. It should. Is it time to sell?
Rashad
I mean. No. Why. Why would you.
Ian
Well, because they made.
Shoddy
Because they made a lot of. They made a lot of money.
Rashad
And you're gonna make money depends on age. Okay.
Ian
And if they. Okay.
Rashad
If they need to take that.
Ian
Yeah, like if, If. If you're young. Okay, let's see. 637. Let's see. You're at 1600% return. If you need a liquidity event. Yes, but it. On a basis of you're worried about the economy. No, but that. No. And depending on how many shares you have, I can understand if you want to sell out and cash out and get a couple million. I'm not mad at you. But if you're worried about the stock falling apart just because of where we are in the economy, I wouldn't worry about that. I wouldn't worry about that.
Rashad
So thank you for taking the responsible approach there. Yeah. If, If a liquidity event is needed, if, you know, you're looking to take some profit and potentially invest or reinvest
Ian
somewhere else in college or you want to pay.
Rashad
Yes, yes, yes. If it's solely based on how you think Meta is going to perform over the next five years.
Ian
No, no, I would not.
Rashad
The price. It won't be at this price in two years.
Ian
Yeah.
Shoddy
Somebody said, how can they get reservations to Tatiana.
Ian
Right.
Shoddy
People gotta know the right people so about who you know in life. Okay, we'll go back to. We'll come back to this segment later if we have time. But let's do this. Let's talk about the U. S. Debt spiral. Alarming.
Ian
I just want to ask a question. Do. Okay. Like not saying he's a great president because I'm arguing that he may be less evil than Trump. So when Bush left office, that's GDP was at 35. In 2009, it was at 81.5%. Some analysts say the normalized rate for the debt to GDP ratio in 2035 will be 300%. Do you think spending will ever come back down or what's the new norm that we should be facing. Because if we're going to be very honest, the power of the dollars went away dramatically just in our lifetime. Spending power has decreased. Do you think we ever get back to a normal cycle or do you think the spiral continues on forever and let's just talk like it's us at dinner, no audience.
Shoddy
It's never going to stop. Never. Will it stop?
Rashad
Yeah, I mean I want. I knew you was gonna say it, so I didn't want to say it. Yeah. I don't. That's what we do.
Ian
It's scary. And the rate of acceleration is. Is just post covet like.
Shoddy
Well, I think Ray Dalio put a post up but he said the new World order is already happening. It's already in. And we could talk about this in detail in blackout as well. But yeah, I mean, you know, we have massive debt. Starting another war just so you don't have to release Epstein files. That's going to be billions of dollars. The amount of money that's going to be spent on the Iran debacle. That's gonna be another debacle for no reason. You're just finding ways to spend money. China. When's the last time China invaded a country? Put in chat.
Ian
Yeah.
Shoddy
When's the last time China has been been engaged in a. In a war or a full fledged military operation outside of the borders of China or inside the borders of China? When's the last time that. That that's happened? Because they're focused on building their economy and we're focused on just doing completely idiotic things for no reason. Or like the Iran thing. That's really. That's not even this. That's for no reason. They have no nuclear capability. You already ruined that. Their nuclear capabilities. And the only reason why they even had the nuclear capabilities to begin with is because you re nicked on a deal that was already in place for them to deescalate their nuclear capabilities. So you. This doesn't even make any. Any sense at all. They have you literally. We already. We already took care of the nuclear situation in Iran. Why are you even doing this? Is going to be so much money spent. Even if there's no military boots on the ground just to send the ships over there. It's like a half a billion dollar operation
Rashad
trips new technology manpower.
Shoddy
Yeah. There's literally no reason for us to even be thinking about Iran right now.
Ian
Well, there's a reason, but we can't tell.
Shoddy
Brought to you by.
Ian
Yeah, not on Al Gore's Internet we won't. In comparison, countries with low debt to GDP. Saudi Arabia 20 to 27. Norway 30% Switzerland 30 to 40%. Indonesia 39%. So it's not just third world countries that have low debts of GDP. Saudi Arabia and Switzerland has found a way to not inflate their way and move their debt to GDP to almost 200% which is incredibly scary. So
Shoddy
anything. They'll. They'll start a drug war in Mexico. They'll. They'll do a. A war in Iran. They'll. They'll release the UFO files that nobody asked for.
Rashad
What else we got?
Shoddy
Why is Cash Patel flying to Italy to party with the U. S. Hockey team on a private jet?
Rashad
That's not the first time he's done it though. Like he had to pay repay the government for some. Some other flights. You know what?
Ian
You know, allegedly, I like.
Rashad
Yeah. I like my life. You know what? Oh alleged. You know what? Hey, usa right? We won the gold.
Ian
Yeah.
Rashad
Probably like it. Probably like it's 1999 or 1980 and
Shoddy
nobody nobody cares about hockey. Like they trying to push this agenda. They're trying. Let's be honest. They trying to pull push this agenda of like nobody listens to Kid Rock. Nobody cares about hockey. Nobody. Like this is a line dancing. Nobody cares about that. They trying to push an agenda nobody can respect. Congratulations to the hockey team. But no, let's be honest. Nobody cares about hockey. Nobody cares about Kid Rock. They're trying to push. Why are you you trying your hardest to push an agenda?
Ian
I didn't know even though that the halftime show until like two days before was done. But by turning point USA name me
Shoddy
five hockey players on the team. Put in chat. Name me five hockey players. Cash out. Cash out. You 105 hockey players that played on the U.S. the U.S. hockey team that just won the the gold medal.
Ian
Don't GPT it freestyle off top of the head.
Rashad
I got, I got three, five.
Shoddy
I need five. Yeah, I need five.
Rashad
People care. People care. We don't care.
Shoddy
No, they don't. They really don't.
Rashad
Now people go to the game.
Ian
We, we don't care.
Rashad
But the games are fun. Yeah, it's just somebody said Hughes, he won. He hit the. He got the goal. That, that won the goal.
Ian
I noticed nobody put five names in chat yet.
Shoddy
Nobody put five names now. And now reverse that. Put five names of the US Basketball team that won the gold in the last Olympics. That's easy for me.
Rashad
Seriously,
Shoddy
what do you want me to do, man? These people like they're trying to push an agenda. They're trying to Push an agenda that nobody really cares about. It's outdated.
Rashad
What about figure skating? Like, this chick is everywhere. They try to treat it like it was the 100 meter dash. I'm like, yo, what? Somebody said nobody cares about Kid Rock. I'm with you. Our Canadian friends might argue that they care about hockey, but they lost. Shout out to the six though.
Shoddy
All right, ladies and gentlemen, it's been real.
Ian
Yep.
Rashad
Yeah.
Shoddy
You remember pitch competition, Invest Fest125,000 is. Oh, it's open right now. All you got to do is apply, go to Invest Fest website, get a ticket. You got to be a tech based business. You have until now till April 10 to put the applications in. The earlier that you do is the better. If you put it in April 9, April 1, you will run up against, you know, a million other people and people trying to look through it. You know, everybody will get looked at. It's better if you do it earlier. Word to the wise is sufficient. A word
Ian
you can vibe code. A product you can vibe code you can apply make at least in ChatGPT or Claude, make it sound like it's authentic in your voice. But even if you don't have a business vibe, code it. Stay up all night, go through the videos and see how to code properly. At least get an MVP going. Get some traction. You don't have any excuse this year as to why you can't apply on time and have a product ready. Hell, Chat GBT will tell you what kind of company to build for the audience at Invest Fest. This other part about getting rich, you got to have some hustle. Some of y' all be waiting and bullshitting and then want to gossip. And I don't agree with you said about Gavin OSM say who gives a. Go build some. That's what I want you to do.
Rashad
Go build
Ian
tonight. So.
Shoddy
Oh, man. All right, y' all blackout. 9 o' clock on Wednesday, Eastern standard time. We got a lot to talk about. This is just a preview. We got the episode on 12 o' clock on Thursday. Man, so many gems and information. Yep, we back, man. We back. We back at it. We back at it, man.
Rashad
We appreciate y' all wholeheartedly. Pisces season. Happy birthday again to Shoddy. Put some some birthday wishes in the chat form.
Ian
Would you want to celebrate my brother? Let me know
Rashad
off screen. Yo, y' all be good to each other Wednesday. Like I said, we. We got Nvidia reporting, so I'm sure that the text chat is going to be going crazy either way. It's It's a good time to be alive to witness it. So y' all be good to each other, take care of each other, reach out. One phone call, one test can change the tragedy of somebody's life. We love y'.
Shoddy
All.
Rashad
We love y' all daily. How's that?
Ian
From bottom of my heart, Rashad, Are those blue screen blockers because you're blocking the Blu rays that will infect your mind? That's somebody want to know in a comment.
Shoddy
That's a fact, man. I wear my stunning glasses at night. Shout rest in peace to Mac Beck, Mac Dre and the Bay. You know, I wear sunglasses at night. Not. I wouldn't recommend it for everybody, but
Ian
is it because you're reptilian with the Illuminati?
Shoddy
Tell us why you don't see when
Ian
the slits in your eye change. Because you went to Davos. Tell us more.
Shoddy
Yeah, it's not for everybody, man. You gotta be. You gotta be expert. You gotta be an expert to wear sunglasses at night. But for sure, you know, it's one of these things. Inside, outside, nighttime.
Rashad
Yeah, it's all about the link.
Ian
Crazy times wearing, yo.
Shoddy
Crazy times that we're in.
Ian
Yeah.
Rashad
All right, y'. All. Y' all be good, love.
Shoddy
Peace.
Ian
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Earn Your Leisure (EYL Network) | February 24, 2026
In this wide-ranging episode, hosts Rashad, Shoddy, and market expert Ian Dunlap dissect the state of the markets as fears of an AI bubble loom, stocks face corrections, and global uncertainties mount. The trio unpacks timeless investment strategies, emerging opportunities, and critical cautionary tales for both traders and long-term investors. Live audience questions drive honest dialogue about holding through market pain, finding explosive growth, and avoiding Wall Street traps. Key insights cover the future of AI, job displacements, navigating new tariffs, entrepreneurship exit pitfalls, and the reality behind viral business headlines.
Historic Returns Outweigh Near-Term Panic
Amazon & Job Disruption
Tariffs & Geopolitical Unrest Amplifying Fears
Pattern Recognition in Pullbacks
"It's a lot... we can't ignore that. There's a lot of uncertainty and people that's, you know, nervous." — Shoddy (13:23)
"A combination of tariffs and AI disruption, geopolitical unrest, growing debt, consumer debt... if you don't know a lot about the markets, you can feel like something is off." — Ian (15:34)
"If we are going into an AI bubble or AI disruption, these are the companies that are safe from that bubble." — Ian (72:48)
On Market Cycles & Calmness Amid Chaos:
"Every time we go to these companies there's a level of calmness...The reason that the people...feel so calm is because they know what's down the road. They can see the innovation."
— Rashad (09:35)
On Entrepreneurship, Exits, and VC Pitfalls:
“Often the exit is for the investor, and not for you as the founder.”
— Ian (04:58)
On Timing & Burnout:
"I think it's a better use of your time to take three or four months to trade and say after these three or four months my season is concluded...Opposed to trying to trade year round and ending up with a lower return."
— Ian (17:20)
On The Real Wealth Game:
“There's another room...another room in this investment game. There's another room where guaranteed returns, making an investment for the return and then making companies go public via SPAC and getting $5 billion on the exit.”
— Shoddy (63:22)
On Holding Through Volatility:
“If all things point to the direction, when bitcoin is at $200,000, you'll be happy that you bought it at 80,000.”
— Shoddy (41:04)
For more actionable insights and direct Q&A, catch Market Mondays live each week. As Rashad says: “Watch Market Mondays. The level of information...the amount of millionaires, multi-millionaires, thousandaires that have been made because of executing on information that’s been given—there’s nothing like it.” [44:32]