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Rashad
But yeah, somebody that's really revolutionized investing for sure. So what is the legacy of Warren Buffett?
Floyd
I think he did a great, amazing job. Journalist of the year covering this for real. The greatest to ever do it. Like I was watching it and I was just thinking like this I felt when like Jordan made that last shot against Utah like the game won't be the same. It's the end of an era. I think at a time when investing was not popular, he did so when long term invested in the approach of doing good over the greed is good model that wasn't popular but he made that popular. And definitely if it wasn't for him that would be no me. He's had the greatest impact on my long term investment philosophy. So 5 million return since he started the company, built it with one of his dearest friends. Like he's, he's created the blueprint for how to build a legacy business and a legacy company. So the hands down the greatest to do it. I hate to see him go, I know he's gonna be in a chairman role but it's, it's definitely an end of an era for sure.
Jim
Definitely the end of the era. I think, I mean you guys summed it up. This is the goat. I think, you know, gratitude as I was watching it, it was great. We were driving up to New Haven, I was, I was watching the, the meeting and every time he spoke it was like his sound was a little bit different than it usually is. It just felt like, you know, time is taking a soul but just gratitude, man. We, we grew up in an era we've watched and you could, you can pick a genre or.
Floyd
I was thinking that, yeah, we've watched the greatest.
Jim
Whether it's in entertainment, whether it's in, you know, sports, investing. We've watched the greatest and we've had an opportune seat to watch it over the past seven years being, you know, around people who are very close to him and know him very well. Just, just the absolute greatest man. And one of the things that you, you'll never forget is, you know, make money while you sleep. Make money while you sleep. And when people think of that, that adage, that's him, that's him. And I sat in my office in the Bronx when I was teaching. I sat in my office in New Rochelle when I was teaching and just thought like, this is not, I'm not making money while I sleep. How do I, how am I going to be able to do that? And so his impact will live on. Obviously he's still here, he'll be present. But the messaging, the constant, you know, be, be fearful when, when people agree all these things, those, those adages just stick with you when they become a part of the fabric, invest. And so people might debate, is he the greatest?
Floyd
There's no debate.
Jim
There's no debate in my eyes and especially when we're talking about long term investing. This, this is the, the matriarch, this is the guy who created the blueprint for it. And kudos to him. Kudos to him.
Floyd
Rashad, your thoughts?
Rashad
Yeah, for sure. You know, like I said, you know, somebody that has done it the right way consistently over the course of time, stay true to his principles, stay true to what he believed in and really helped a lot of everyday people feel comfortable investing no matter, no matter what, if it was some level of showmanship or whatever. But you know, the way that he dressed, the way that he carried himself in public, it was welcoming to the average everyday person and that helped a lot as far as getting people involved into investing and encouraged. And then of course, you know, Jim Cramer, he, he came and he helped and then, and we came. Yeah. So, you know, there's this, this torches that get passed over the course of.
Floyd
Time, but historical footnote.
Jim
You gotta put history in this place.
Rashad
My man, Warren Buffett, man, icon living. So congratulations to him. And you know, hopefully he, he can have some time to do whatever he likes to do. I don't know what he likes to do, fish or whatever, but hopefully, I know he's a boxing fan for sure. Hopefully he has some time to just, just chill out for a little bit and, and enjoy the rest of his. His life.
Jim
Yeah, I like that you said that he did it the right way because even when people came around our culture, you could kind of see it was kind of like how we gonna smooch off them, how we're going to use them for notoriety. And even when you saw him with Jay or you seen him with Bud Bron, it was always like he was giving information.
Floyd
He was giving. Yeah.
Jim
Anything back. He didn't want the notoriety. He wasn't a guy who was looking for the notoriety or wanted the cameras to be around. It was just like, let me pour some information to y'all. And that's how it should be done. Yeah. All.
Floyd
Yeah, he was impactful, Floyd. Yep. And he did it with Jay at a time when Jay was on the cusp of becoming icon. He didn't wait to became till Jay became who he is now. Yeah, I think that's very special. And like you said, he did it the right way. And also too, to focus on investing in great companies and being around great people. Like, you can see the friendship that him and Charlie had. Mary, who's like his right hand. Those relationships, power relationships. They've been together 40, 50 years. That's a dream life. And then to take care of your kids and see your kids flourish and to give back to the world. So just a true leader in the space at the time when it was a very like, barbarian like culture prior to his mantras being pushed forward.
Rashad
Salute.
Jim
He's the one.
Rashad
There was some key takeaways from the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting. From an investing standpoint and looking at the market, which everybody here, that's what they're interested in. What can we learn from this?
Floyd
For me, the ones that stood out is true. Number one, choose your circle wisely. There's not enough. There's a lot of alpha talked about on fundamental analysis and technical, which should always be combined, but not enough is talked about. How you structure your team and who you choose to do life and business with is going to have a profound effect and impact on the top and bottom line. Number two, that there are a bunch of contrarian opportunities that are available. I kept hearing them stress that, and in a time when everyone's panicked over a drop in the market, there's some opportunities there. And I think most people just are not looking at them. Kind of like in the NBA where, like the Cavaliers didn't get highlighted in lieu of the Lakers. There are some bright spots in investing that not many people are talking about that are there. Number three is to be ripe with cash. I know some may criticize him for having that much cash on hand, but if he needed to go buy a Tesla car or company or he needed to buy into the air race if Greg needed to, now a CEO, he has more than enough cash to do so and it won't hurt their investment percentage into the market. And I know he talks about trade is not a weapon, but not to be worried full of things. Tariffs, tariffs, sorry about that. Tariffs. But not to worry about things in the short term horizon like he, like you said, Rashad, he's been through every era of this. The 87 crash, the.com crash, the 2008 crisis, a 15 pullback. Won't give any challenge for what they're looking to do. And I think sometimes as investors we look at the media too much on a day to day basis and not looking over decade to decade or like a five year period at a time. So not to focus on the short term, but to figure out things on the long term horizon and those, when those opportunities come and when there is blood in the street like there was in early April, that's the time to be buying.
Jim
Yeah. I, I think I'll add to some of the points you made. I think the first thing that came to mind was the terrorist being used as a weapon.
Floyd
Yeah.
Jim
And how global prosperity benefits the United States. And he kind of went on that for a while and I was like, all right, he's saying it. Let's see how the market reacts to that. I think the second thing, and kind of an inverse to that, was that the United States deficit is just unsustainable.
Floyd
Yes.
Jim
And the fact that we, he said that he doesn't trust Congress to figure this out. And so it leads you to the point, well, who's going to try to figure this out?
Floyd
Right. Dictator.
Jim
Right. Does that leave it up to a dictator to, to figure it out? I think the, one of the most important things, and this is again, when we talk about stick to your plan, stick to your plan, stick to your plan. Even with having $347 billion.
Floyd
Right.
Jim
They still have a cautious investment approach.
Floyd
Yes.
Jim
Like even with all the uncertainty, like the market drops. They talked about potentially having a $10 billion acquisition. I don't know if they mentioned what company it was. And even in the midst of it they were like, nah, yeah, it doesn't feel right. So I mean, having that type of discipline with having that level of a treasure chest speaks volumes.
Floyd
Right.
Jim
Like most people won't take a risk and they're not even. No, they're not even near like most people. I mean, the average person doesn't see that type of money. But being at that level, having that much experience provides a level of discipline and certainty.
Floyd
Right.
Jim
Like, you know that you're doing the right thing because you've seen this happen over and over. So those are like the. The three. And then obviously Greg Abel being. Being named.
Floyd
Yeah.
Jim
The new chair was. Was the fourth point. I'm like, okay, now we got to study, like, who he is. In fact, when I did the research, he already said that this was going to be the person who's right. Yeah. He said this in 2021. Yeah. And so I don't. I guess the timing of him doing it at the meeting was a surprise. Who he chose wasn't much of a surprise.
Floyd
Yeah.
Rashad
Yeah.
Floyd
And that was a big shoes to fill. Rashad, what about you? Were there any big takeaways for you?
Rashad
Well, the biggest takeaway is that you never know when it's going to be over. And you got to appreciate greatness in the moment. Spoke about this with 19 keys, but this might be the last opportunity that we ever get to see Warren Buffett speak publicly. We do need him at Invest Festive, for sure. There's a lot of people that watch this show, so if anybody has any direct relationships, man, let's. Let's. Let's make magic happen one last time.
Floyd
But, Becky, quick, please.
Rashad
We had a similar situation with Junior Bridgman, which that was. We didn't know that he was gonna not be here anymore. There's somebody that became a billionaire and spoke at Invest Fest that might have been the last time that he really had an address that big as far as public address in the public. And then shortly after that, he passes away. So, yeah, man, you have to appreciate moments and people and opportunities and things like you saying, like, all right, I'm gonna next time or next year or I'm gonna do this. And like, I'm watching Market Mondays, but I'm not really watching. I'm not halfway paying attention. You never know. Yeah. When it's gonna be the last time.
Jim
That's a great point.
Floyd
You never can even being on stage. I said every year. And people get tired of me saying it every time on stage. Act as if you're last, because if you missed that, it could be.
Jim
It's a fact.
Rashad
That's a fact. So get your tickets to Invest Fest, because you never.
Jim
You never know.
Rashad
No.
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In this poignant episode of Market Mondays, hosts Rashad, Floyd, and Jim delve deep into the legacy of Warren Buffett following the recent Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting. The conversation not only celebrates Buffett’s monumental contributions to the investment world but also extracts valuable lessons for current and aspiring investors.
Rashad opens the discussion by acknowledging Warren Buffett's revolutionary impact on investing:
"Somebody that's really revolutionized investing for sure. So what is the legacy of Warren Buffett?" (00:58)
Floyd passionately praises Buffett, comparing his influence to iconic figures in sports:
"If it wasn't for him, there would be no me. He's had the greatest impact on my long-term investment philosophy." (01:08)
The hosts collectively agree that Buffett’s approach—prioritizing long-term investments and ethical business practices over short-term gains—has set a gold standard in the industry.
Jim adds a personal touch, reflecting on the emotional weight of Buffett's transition:
"Every time he spoke, it felt like time is taking a toll... Just gratitude, man." (02:12)
The conversation transitions to the pivotal insights gleaned from the annual meeting. Floyd outlines three primary takeaways:
Choose Your Circle Wisely:
"How you structure your team and who you choose to do life and business with is going to have a profound effect." (06:10)
Embrace Contrarian Opportunities:
"In a time when everyone's panicked over a drop in the market, there's some opportunities there." (06:20)
Maintain Cash Reserves:
"Being ripe with cash allows flexibility for strategic acquisitions without jeopardizing investment percentages." (06:30)
Jim supplements these points by emphasizing the importance of disciplined investment strategies, even amidst economic uncertainties:
"Having that type of discipline with having that level of a treasure chest speaks volumes." (09:30)
He also highlights the significance of Greg Abel being named as Buffett’s successor, underscoring the importance of leadership continuity.
Rashad shares how Buffett’s principles have demystified investing for the average person:
"The way he dressed, the way he carried himself in public, it was welcoming to the average everyday person and that helped a lot as far as getting people involved into investing." (04:00)
Jim echoes this sentiment, noting Buffett’s genuine desire to educate rather than seek notoriety:
"He was always giving information back. He wasn't a guy who was looking for the notoriety or wanted the cameras to be around." (05:13)
The hosts collectively express deep admiration for Buffett’s humility and dedication to fostering a culture of informed investing.
Delving into actionable investment strategies inspired by Buffett’s legacy, the hosts discuss the importance of a long-term perspective:
Floyd advises investors to focus beyond daily market fluctuations and consider multi-year horizons:
"Sometimes as investors we look at the media too much on a day-to-day basis and not looking over decade to decade or like a five-year period at a time." (07:00)
Jim emphasizes sticking to one’s investment plan despite external pressures:
"Stick to your plan. Even with having $347 billion, they still have a cautious investment approach." (09:00)
Rashad reinforces the unpredictability of financial markets, urging listeners to seize opportunities when they arise:
"You never know when it's going to be over. You have to appreciate greatness in the moment." (10:44)
As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the transient nature of leadership and the enduring impact of Buffett’s teachings. They encourage listeners to internalize Buffett's principles—ethical investing, long-term strategies, and continuous learning—to navigate the complexities of the stock market effectively.
In a heartfelt closing, Rashad muses on the importance of cherishing influential figures while they’re still active:
"You never know when it's going to be the last time." (11:08)
Market Mondays thus serves not only as a tribute to Warren Buffett’s extraordinary legacy but also as a beacon of wisdom for investors aiming to build sustainable wealth.
By weaving together personal anecdotes, insightful analysis, and actionable investment strategies, this episode of Market Mondays offers a comprehensive reflection on Warren Buffett’s indelible mark on the world of investing. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just beginning your financial journey, the lessons shared are invaluable for building a resilient and prosperous portfolio.