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Marketing and Education
Hosted by Elana Leoni | Leoni Consulting Group · EN
What if marketing was judged solely by the level of value it brings to its audience? Welcome to All Things Marketing and Education, a podcast that lives at the intersection of marketing and you guessed it, education. Each week, Elana Leoni, CEO of Leoni Consulting Group, highlights innovative social media marketing, community-building, and content marketing strategies that can significantly increase brand awareness, engagement, and revenue.
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Your Emails Are Too Polished: What Actually Works in EdTech Marketing
2w ago00:43:28Tap to summarizeHello, World!Most education brands know email should be their strongest channel and yet it rarely delivers on its potential. Between inconsistent sends, generic copy, and the pressure to sound “professional,” messages that could build real connection often end up sounding like noise.Email strategist Liz Wilcox joins Elana to share how education organizations can shift from transactional messaging to meaningful communication. She breaks down why simplicity outperforms polish, how to build trust through steady, human touchpoints, and what the best senders are doing differently.She outlines her “follower, friend, customer” framework, a 20-minute approach to writing newsletters that actually get read, and the mindset shift from selling to serving. Liz also explains how a strong onboarding sequence sets the tone for every future interaction—and why owning your mistakes in email can make people trust you more, not less.If you’ve ever hesitated to hit send or wondered what to say next, this episode will reset how you think about email.What You’ll LearnWhy email should be the backbone of your marketing strategy—not an afterthoughtHow to turn your list into a community through consistency and simplicityThe “follower, friend, customer” model for long-term trust and engagementThe 20-minute newsletter framework that makes authentic communication sustainableHow to balance professionalism with personality (and why both matter)Why transparency, even in mistakes, builds loyalty faster than polishQuick Wins from the Lightning RoundShort, conversational subject lines outperform everything elseThe best send time is whenever you’ll actually send—consistency matters mostAlways use a P.S., it’s prime real estateKeep stories short and usefulStop overcomplicating; simple emails build trust fasterWhy It MattersThe difference between noise and connection isn’t design or frequency; it’s trust. Liz reminds us that effective email marketing comes from showing up consistently, sounding like a real person, and making every message worth opening. When we stop chasing perfection and start focusing on relationships, email becomes less of a tactic and more of a long-term advantage.
Transcribe →What Teachers Really Think About EdTech Right Now
Apr 3000:41:32Tap to summarizeThere’s a shift happening in how technology is being talked about in education.Questions around screen time, student well-being, and the role of EdTech are becoming more visible. At the same time, educators are still navigating the day-to-day reality of using these tools to support learning, manage time, and stay effective in the classroom.That tension is creating a more layered conversation.Elana Leoni sits down with educator, author, and Ditch That Textbook founder Matt Miller, a voice that resonates widely with teachers and regularly collaborates with education brands. Together, they unpack what is actually happening beneath the surface, from how teachers want to be supported to how technology and AI are showing up in real classrooms.The conversation centers on a core question that continues to evolve. What is the true role of EdTech, and how do we ensure it stays grounded in teacher and student learning?
Transcribe →When “All EdTech Is Bad” Becomes the Conversation
Apr 1600:22:09Tap to summarizeThere’s a noticeable shift happening in how technology is being talked about in education.What used to be a more measured conversation about tradeoffs and use is starting to move in a broader direction. In some cases, the conversation is moving faster than the reality inside classrooms, where educators are still figuring out how to use tools in thoughtful, practical ways.That gap is becoming more visible.At the same time, marketers are navigating a different kind of shift. AI is changing how content is surfaced and cited, and social media is starting to influence how professionals are discovered and evaluated in new ways.In this field notes episode, Elana Leoni shares what she is seeing across both of these dynamics. She brings in perspectives from educators, connects them to what marketers should be paying attention to, and offers practical guidance on how to navigate this moment with more clarity and intention.The episode show notes: http://leoniconsultinggroup.com/podcast
Transcribe →What Principals Actually Pay Attention To, How They Evaluate EdTech and Why Outreach Gets Ignored
Apr 200:48:22Tap to summarizeWhat Principals Actually Pay Attention To, How They Evaluate EdTech and Why Outreach Gets IgnoredJordan Moldenhauer March 26, 2026There is a growing gap between how education is marketed to and how it is actually experienced inside schools.Leaders are navigating full days that require constant context switching, balancing relationships with students and teachers, operational demands, and long-term decisions about tools and systems.At the same time, marketers and vendors are trying to break through with messages about value, innovation, and now, AI.In this episode, Elana Leoni sits down with Chris Lehmann, founding principal of Science Leadership Academy, to ground that gap in reality. Chris shares what his day actually looks like, how he evaluates vendors, where marketing efforts fall apart, and what earns his attention over time. The conversation then moves into AI, where the tension between possibility and risk is not theoretical. It is showing up daily in classrooms, policies, and conversations about integrity.This episode is a candid look at what it means to engage education leaders in a way that is useful, honest, and sustainable.Explore the rest of the episode show notes here.Mentioned in this episode:LCG newsletter adSign up for the LCG newsletter on https://www.leoniconsultinggroup.com/newsletter-signup
Transcribe →AI Signals, Email Myths, and the Spring EdTech Buying Cycle
Mar 1900:38:59Tap to summarizeEducation marketing often feels like two different worlds moving at once. The technology ecosystem shifts quickly, with AI tools introducing new ways for expertise to be discovered and trusted. At the same time, schools move on an entirely different rhythm shaped by academic calendars, testing seasons, and budget cycles.For marketers in this space, success rarely comes from chasing every new tactic. It comes from understanding the signals that actually shape decisions inside schools.In this “Field Notes” episode of All Things Marketing and Education, Elana Leoni reflects on several signals that have surfaced recently across AI, email marketing, and the education buying cycle. The discussion explores what LinkedIn’s role in AI responses may mean for professional authority, why unsubscribes are healthier for email programs than many teams assume, and how the spring portion of the school year affects marketing priorities.Review the show notes: www.leoniconsultinggroup.com/podcasts/rai-signals-email-myths-and-spring-edtech
Transcribe →Why K–12 EdTech Sales Requires More Than a Great Demo
Mar 500:54:07Tap to summarize2 education has always required a different kind of sales approach. Long buying cycles. Multiple stakeholders. Deep accountability to students, families, and communities. But the environment today feels more measured than it did just a few years ago. District leaders are scrutinizing spend, thinking carefully about sustainability, and asking harder questions about long-term impact.We are not operating in the same ESSER-funded landscape that allowed for rapid pilots and flexible experimentation. Funding conversations now center on justification, alignment, and durability. AI may be accelerating attention, but caution is shaping decisions.In this episode of All Things Marketing and Education, Elana Leoni sits down with Shelby Jones of FuelK12 to explore what that shift means for education sales and marketing teams. They unpack ghosting, budget objections, the tension between depth and scale, and the structural misalignment that often exists between marketing and sales. The conversation stays practical, focused on what actually builds trust inside districts right now.See the resources and show notes here.
Transcribe →How AI, Buying Cycles, and Platform Shifts Are Reshaping Education Marketing
Feb 1900:34:26Tap to summarizeEducation marketing is getting squeezed from both sides. Buyers are moving slower and asking for more proof, while the marketing landscape is moving faster than most teams can realistically track. AI is changing how people search and evaluate credibility. Conferences are still a major growth channel, but they are expensive and hard to measure. And social platforms keep rewriting the rules midstream.In this solo “Field Notes” episode, Elana Leoni surfaces practical signals from the last few weeks across AI, conferences, K–12 funding, and social media. The throughline is focus. What matters now is less about chasing every update, and more about building a marketing system that can hold up in a noisy, high-scrutiny, high-stakes category.Link to the episode show notes.
Transcribe →Inside the 2025 State EdTech Trends Report, What Matters for 2026
Feb 500:54:25Tap to summarizeState education agencies are moving faster than they are known for, and not because they want to. AI, funding uncertainty, and capacity constraints are forcing decisions that cannot wait.In this episode, Elana Leoni sits down with Julia Fallon of SETDA to unpack what the 2025 State EdTech Trends Report really tells us about where states are focused, what feels most fragile right now, and why modernization matters more than chasing the next innovation. This conversation is especially relevant for education marketers and leaders who want to understand how state priorities shape district decisions, and how to engage more thoughtfully in a tight, high-stakes environment.What You’ll LearnWhat SETDA is and why its State EdTech Trends Report offers a unique state-level lensHow the report is built, who contributes to it, and why it is timed around legislative sessionsWhy AI surpassed cybersecurity as the top state ed tech priority for the first timeWhat that shift signals about responsibility, risk, and trust, not enthusiasmWhere state AI guidance typically lives, how it varies, and why quality mattersWhy capacity and coherence, not commitment, are the most fragile issues right nowWhat the end of ESSER funding looks like in real operational terms, not just percentagesWhy Julia argues education needs modernization, not “innovation,” and how that reframes decision-makingWhat professional learning needs to look like to actually support adoption and impactA practical example of state-level ecosystem building from NebraskaFor more, visit the show notes here.
Transcribe →What Education Marketers Need to Know for 2026 and Where to Spend $10,000
Jan 2200:28:50Tap to summarizeEducation marketing is entering another year of tight budgets, longer decision cycles, and higher expectations from districts. The uncertainty is familiar now, but the pressure to make smart, focused choices has not eased. As teams plan for the next school year, the real challenge is not doing more. It is doing fewer things with greater intention.In this episode, Elana Leoni reflects on recent conversations across the education ecosystem to surface what matters most right now. From how districts are thinking about efficacy and technology use, to where marketers should actually invest limited resources, the episode focuses on signals that can guide smarter decisions in 2026. The goal is not optimism for optimism’s sake, but clarity about where attention, time, and budget are best spent.See resources and more in the episode show notes: leoniconsultinggroup.com/podcast Mentioned in this episode:EdTech Planner 2026Planning a full year of education marketing takes time, and you need a clear path that helps you stay relevant, consistent, and aligned with the moments that matter. Ready to make 2026 your most intentional (and effective!) year yet in education marketing? What The EdTech Marketer’s 2026 Planner helps you do: Focus on what matters most to your brand and audience Plan campaigns around key education events Use proven strategies tailored to K–12 and higher ed Build a system that fuels visibility, engagement, and leads For six years, thousands of education and EdTech marketers have used this planner to guide their yearly campaigns and stay aligned with the school calendar. Download here: https://www.leoniconsultinggroup.com/edtech-marketers-planner
Transcribe →How to Tell If Your EdTech Product Is Ready to Go to Market
Jan 800:48:50Tap to summarizeIn EdTech, things can start moving quickly. A new idea gets attention. A stakeholder asks for leads. A competitor launches something similar. Before long, teams feel pressure to act fast and show progress.The problem is that moving fast does not always mean moving in the right direction. When teams skip validation, meaning they have not yet confirmed that real educators or leaders truly need what they are building, speed can create more problems than momentum. Budgets get stretched, marketing efforts chase the wrong signals, and educators are asked to spend time on tools that do not actually solve a meaningful problem.In this episode, Kate Busby joins our CEO, Elana Leoni, to talk about what validation really looks like in EdTech. We break down how to tell the difference between early interest and real demand, why this work is often messy, and how marketers can use AI to test ideas, messaging, and prototypes faster without losing sight of the people they are trying to serve.What You’ll LearnA simple four-stage way to think about validation, from idea to scalingWhy “friends, family, and fools” feedback is a signal, but not proofHow to spot when you are still in hustle mode, even if you call it tractionWhere pivots are most realistic, and when they get expensiveHow to use competitor reviews, sales transcripts, and lightweight surveys to speed up market researchA practical method for pairing real-world insights with synthetic personas to test positioningWhy prototyping is one of the most useful AI applications for marketers right nowThe discovery question more founders should ask, and how it can shape your SEO, copy, and campaignsFor quick wins from the lightning round and details on resources mentioned, visit the episode show notes: https://www.leoniconsultinggroup.com/podcasts/is-your-edtech-product-is-ready-to-go-to-marketMentioned in this episode:EdTech Planner 2026Planning a full year of education marketing takes time, and you need a clear path that helps you stay relevant, consistent, and aligned with the moments that matter. Ready to make 2026 your most intentional (and effective!) year yet in education marketing? What The EdTech Marketer’s 2026 Planner helps you do: Focus on what matters most to your brand and audience Plan campaigns around key education events Use proven strategies tailored to K–12 and higher ed Build a system that fuels visibility, engagement, and leads For six years, thousands of education and EdTech marketers have used this planner to guide their yearly campaigns and stay aligned with the school calendar. Download here: https://www.leoniconsultinggroup.com/edtech-marketers-planner
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