Markets Daily Crypto Roundup: Canada's Wakeup From an Economic Coma: Why Kevin O'Leary Is Optimistic
Release Date: May 19, 2025
Host/Author: CoinDesk
Guest: Kevin O'Leary, Chairman of O'Leary Ventures and Co-host of Shark Tank (“Mr. Wonderful”)
1. Introduction
In this special edition of Markets Daily Crypto Roundup, hosted by CoinDesk, the spotlight is on Canada’s evolving economic landscape and its implications for the cryptocurrency sector. The episode features a candid discussion with Kevin O'Leary, widely recognized for his role on Shark Tank, who shares his insights on Canada's recent economic challenges, leadership changes, and the future of crypto regulations in the country.
2. Canada's Economic Situation
Kevin O'Leary opens the conversation by painting a stark picture of Canada's economic downturn over the past decade. He emphasizes the severe decline in various economic indicators under former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s administration.
“It's been a very tough time. For the last 10 years. It's collapse of the Canadian economy, collapse of the Canadian dollar, collapse of Canadian investment, collapse of Canadian GDP.”
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O'Leary attributes the economic struggles directly to Trudeau's leadership, describing it as unprecedented in Canada’s history.
3. Leadership Change: From Justin Trudeau to Mark Carney
The discussion transitions to the recent leadership shift, with Mark Carney assuming the role of Prime Minister. O'Leary expresses a more favorable view of Carney compared to Trudeau.
“I think he has. Well, first of all, he's not an idiot, not like Trudeau.”
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O'Leary praises Carney’s executional skills and his potential to reverse the country’s economic decline. However, he cautions that Carney faces significant challenges due to the lack of a majority government, necessitating collaboration with the Conservatives to implement effective policies.
“He has a tough job because he doesn't have a majority. And so he's got to work with the Conservatives to find a path.”
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4. Crypto Policy in Canada
A pivotal segment of the conversation revolves around Canada's stance on cryptocurrency regulation under Mark Carney’s leadership. O'Leary remains optimistic about a pro-crypto trajectory, influenced by both U.S. regulatory developments and the actions of Canadian regulators like the Ontario Securities Commission (OSC).
“I'm very optimistic that he will follow the leadership of the regulator in the U.S. which has happened, you know, really, with the OSC... they're watching what the FCC is doing.”
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O'Leary anticipates that Carney, with his background in financial services, will recognize the productivity potential of crypto across various economic sectors. He underscores the importance of giving Carney a broad mandate to implement crypto-friendly policies.
5. Interactions with Donald Trump and US-Canada Relations
The dialogue shifts to the intricate relationship between Canada’s leadership and former U.S. President Donald Trump. O'Leary provides a behind-the-scenes perspective on the strained interactions between Trudeau and Trump, highlighting how this dynamic influenced the current political landscape.
“Trump and Trudeau had a toxic relationship because during Trump's first term, the first mandate he had, Trudeau kept throwing barbs at him...”
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He notes that Mark Carney has managed to navigate these tensions more effectively, leveraging Trump's antagonistic stance to gain political traction in Canada. Despite Carney's efforts, O'Leary remains skeptical about the longevity of his leadership.
“He doesn't do it. 12 to 18 months, he'll be gone.”
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6. Tariffs and Trade Policies
O'Leary delves into the complexities of tariff policies, particularly in the context of U.S.-China relations and their spillover effects on Canada. He advocates for substantial tariffs on Chinese goods as a strategic move to bring China to the negotiating table.
“Well, I call for 40% on China as effective embargo.”
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He further explains the economic implications of reciprocal tariffs, comparing them to a consumption tax, and discusses how these measures impact Canada’s standing in global trade negotiations.
7. Bitcoin as a Strategic Reserve
The conversation shifts to the potential of Bitcoin serving as a strategic reserve for nations. O'Leary is a proponent of this idea, likening Bitcoin’s role to that of gold a century ago.
“I think they should. I think every country is going to use that in the same way that gold was used 100 years ago.”
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He emphasizes the necessity for clear policies and legal frameworks to establish Bitcoin’s status as a security or commodity, highlighting the current regulatory gaps that must be addressed.
8. Stablecoin Legislation and Future Crypto Developments
In addressing the regulatory environment, O'Leary discusses the prospects of stablecoin legislation in the United States and its potential ripple effects on Canada. Despite recent setbacks, he remains confident in the legislative momentum towards recognizing and integrating stablecoins within the financial system.
“I'm very close to that bill. And it, they're taking another shot at it.”
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O'Leary underscores the significance of digital payment systems based on the U.S. dollar and forecasts that crypto will become the 12th sector of the economy within five years, driven by advancements in digital payments and cross-border transactions.
“... crypto will be the 12th sector of the economy within five years because it's so productive to the rest of the sectors just in digital payments.”
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9. Conclusion
As the episode wraps up, Kevin O'Leary reiterates his optimism for Canada's economic recovery and the pivotal role that cryptocurrency can play in this transformation. He underscores the importance of regulatory advancements and strategic economic policies in harnessing crypto’s full potential.
“Crypto will be the 12th sector of the economy within five years... that's brilliant.”
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The host acknowledges O'Leary’s insights and hints at his upcoming appearance at Consensus 2025, signaling continued engagement in these critical discussions.
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