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Chris Chung
Yeah, I think in defi you have to do one, two things. You either control order flow origination or you control the actual liquidity. Right. So what Raydium was doing with trying to launch their own, I guess token launchpad type type of thing was that with pumped off fund creating their own AMM Dex, this effectively just limits the amount of liquidity that Raym can actually provide, which does lower the fees, impacts the entire ecosystem on that side. So in response it's only logical that Radium would try and launch competing product to drive bring back that meme coin liquidity that pumped up on what's depositing on radium back to himself instead of losing all that volume, all losing all that liquidity over to pumped off on CO Ammonia. I think it's been in the cards for a long time now. I think pumped up funds started with the Iridium integration because it was a trusted, valid, tested program. But now pumped off funds got enough reputation, got enough, you know, clout within the ecosystem that they can really launch their own product and people wouldn't really mind. But you know, RAYM is now trying to enter the vertical. It's whoever control can control that liquidity to provide to, I guess people provide to traders to actually put volume through now.
Ian Bellina
Now these token issuance platforms seem to keep launching, seem to keep trying to get some of that market share. What does the competition look like to you in the future? Is there going to be one winner or is there a place for all of these token launch platforms?
Chris Chung
I feel like it's going to shape out very similar to how we're seeing the Dex ecosystem. There might be one or two winners in terms of who can support general type of token launches, general meme coin launches. But then you start getting some niches, right? Maybe there is this meme coins that specialize for AI usage for example, and that could be a whole separate dedicated platform. So you have these separate niches beyond like the general meme coin launchpad type of stuff. We've seen the same thing with Dexes, your general AMMs, especially on Solana, with Raydium with the Uni B2 profile, Orca with the Uni B3 stuff. But then you start seeing all these specialized AMMs coming up for stable coins for market making operations. So that's probably what's going to be happening with the launch pads.
Ian Bellina
And now if we just kind of zoom out. Everyone's looking at what the Fed is going to say. Here in the United States, markets are pretty volatile right now. Given the political backdrop, where do meme Coins fit into the conversation from where we're sitting today?
Chris Chung
Yeah, like, to me, it's personally hard to draw a diary parallel with all the macro events, all the political events, especially with the terrorists and stuff. But I think it's just moving in lockstep because people are kind of treating crypto like, to me, a leveraged high tech stock and that's just moving up and down with traditional markets on that side. I think it's just like a very highly correlated beta play as of this stage. But, you know, there's always opportunity. If people will start buying the narrative again, then meme coins will diverge from this type of trend that's taking place with like political and macro events.
Ian Bellina
Now, before I leave you, I come back to this question. Are Meme Coins back? Token Metric CEO Ian Bellina said says he doesn't think so.
Jen Senassi
Meme cons are not back at the moment. They were definitely one of the leading catalysts for the market last year. But right now, looking at the data trading volume and everything, Meme coins are not back.
Ian Bellina
But Chris says if you look at volume, they actually never went anywhere.
Chris Chung
Well, I don't think they ever really disappeared like they. We did suffer a serious drop in volume after, you know, the Libra fiasco on that side. But if I take a look at the actual volume on chain, especially for meme coins, it's still a lot higher than it was for the majority of 2024 when meme coin craze was happening. So I do think that it's still there. There is still significant volume being traded on meme coins. It's just, you know, the narrative that you see on crypto Twitter right now, I think it's just not that good. But it doesn't reflect underlying volumes that are still flowing through the entire meme coin sector. I think meme coins have captured a very interesting niche in capital markets. It's basically you're investing in a narrative, a narrative that will only, you know, you're making a bet on is this narrative good enough and how long will this narrative last? I think people do want to place bets on that and I think, you know, this is something that's very, very intriguing. You know, with all the peanut stuff, peanut bartcoin, all that stuff that happened, I think there is definitely a place for this within this new type of economy where you can invest in anything on blockchains.
Ian Bellina
Whether you're investing in Meme Coins or launching them, you should be careful. And Ian agrees with me there. He faced his own SEC lawsuit in 2022 for promoting a crypto token. He says the SEC is recommending the dismissal of that lawsuit. But here's his advice for investors and creators.
Jen Senassi
Meme Coins are very, very risky. If you go to platforms like pump fun, 99% of meme coins go to zero. So definitely be very, very cautious. Treat them as basically trades. Meme Coins are not really the best long term investment in crypto because most of them end up going to zero. So while platforms like Raydium are trying to really compete now in a way versus Pump Fun, because Pump Found was planning to launch its own DEX to kind of capture that market share, it's become more of an infrastructure war between two different large players in the space, which might lead potentially to a bigger market for Meme Coins in the future. But I would not try to preempt it trading it in its current market. It's definitely a fun way to build a fully engaged community, but just understand the regulations around it. The SEC has finally come out with pro crypto regulation. They've put out their stance on what they think meme Coins are. They've mentioned Meme Coins are not securities. But with that being said, you still have to obviously make sure you're not committing any kind of fraud. So they're a great way to build and bootstrap a community around a particular idea, whether it's Meme Coins around a dog, Meme Coins around Elon, for example, or any other trending topic. But to definitely tread cautiously, I would say.
Ian Bellina
All right, that's a wrap for today's episode of Markets Daily. Thank you so much for watching. Thank you for listening and thank you for coming on this journey with me to better understand what is going on in the crypto markets. If you enjoy the show, subscribe to the Coindesk Podcast network that is available on all podcast platforms. If you prefer to watch us, we are on YouTube. Subscribe to our YouTube channel and give this video a thumbs up. I am Jen Senassi. We will see you tomorrow.
Markets Daily Crypto Roundup: Justin Sun Declares 'Tron Meme Szn' - Are Memecoins Back?
Released on March 19, 2025 | Host: Jen Senassi | Produced by CoinDesk
In the latest episode of Markets Daily Crypto Roundup, hosted by Jen Senassi, CoinDesk delves into the resurgence of memecoins spearheaded by Justin Sun’s recent declaration of the "Tron Meme Season." The episode explores the dynamics of SunPump’s token issuance surge, the competitive landscape of token launch platforms with a spotlight on Raydium’s new initiative, and the broader implications for the crypto market amidst current economic volatility.
The episode kicks off with a discussion on Justin Sun’s tweet declaring the onset of "Tron Meme Season" ("Tron meme season"), a move that has reignited debates within the crypto community. The market reaction has been mixed, reflecting varying sentiments toward memecoins’ viability.
Despite mixed reviews, Justin Sun’s announcement has coincided with a significant uptick in token issuance on the SunPump platform.
SunPump, a TRON-based token issuance platform, witnessed the creation of over 590 new tokens in a single day, marking the highest issuance rate in four months. This surge hints at a possible revival of meme coin popularity within the TRON ecosystem.
Justin Sun further fueled optimism by announcing on X (formerly Twitter) that trading fees on SunPump would be subsidized and that every meme coin would be "back on TRON." This strategic move aims to attract more traders by reducing costs and enhancing the platform's appeal.
Chris Chung, founder of Titan, provides insight into the implications of this surge:
“[02:54] Chris Chung: It effectively just limits the amount of liquidity that Raydium can actually provide, which does lower the fees, impacts the entire ecosystem on that side.”
Chung emphasizes that controlling liquidity is crucial in decentralized finance (DeFi), highlighting how SunPump’s growth could reshape the competitive landscape.
Parallel to SunPump’s activity, Raydium, a Solana-based decentralized exchange, introduced Launch Lab, its own token issuance platform. Launch Lab aims to simplify on-chain token creation for teams by offering a neutral and permissionless infrastructure, thereby differentiating itself from existing launchpads.
Raydium’s native token, Ray, experienced a 13% increase, outperforming the broader market, signaling strong investor confidence in Launch Lab’s potential.
Chris Chung discusses the competitive dynamics introduced by Launch Lab:
“[04:02] Chris Chung: [...] whoever can control that liquidity to provide to, I guess people provide to traders to actually put volume through now.”
Chung underscores the importance of liquidity control in determining which platform will dominate the token issuance space.
The conversation shifts to the future landscape of token issuance platforms. Jen Senassi and Ian Bellina explore whether the market will consolidate around a few dominant players or diversify into specialized niches.
Chris Chung anticipates a market structure similar to decentralized exchanges (DEXes):
“[04:18] Chris Chung: I feel like it's going to shape out very similar to how we're seeing the Dex ecosystem. There might be one or two winners in terms of who can support general type of token launches, general meme coin launches. But then you start getting some niches, right?”
This perspective suggests that while a few platforms like Raydium and SunPump may lead the general token issuance market, specialized platforms could emerge to cater to specific types of tokens, such as those focused on AI or stablecoins.
With the United States Federal Reserve's decisions looming and markets experiencing heightened volatility, the role of memecoins becomes a focal point of discussion. The panel debates whether memecoins can maintain their relevance in such an uncertain macroeconomic environment.
Chris Chung offers a nuanced view:
“[05:16] Chris Chung: [...] people are kind of treating crypto like, to me, a leveraged high tech stock and that's just moving up and down with traditional markets on that side. I think it's just like a very highly correlated beta play as of this stage.”
He suggests that currently, memecoins behave similarly to high-risk stocks, closely mirroring traditional market fluctuations. However, he remains open to the possibility that renewed narrative interest could decouple memecoins from broader market trends.
The episode addresses differing opinions on the state of memecoins in the current market.
Ian Bellina, CEO of Token Metrics, maintains that memecoins are not back, citing trading volume and data as indicators.
“[05:49] Ian Bellina: Token Metrics CEO says, ‘Meme coins are not back at the moment.’”
Jen Senassi concurs, emphasizing the high risk associated with memecoins:
“[07:27] Jen Senassi: Meme Coins are very, very risky. If you go to platforms like Pump Fun, 99% of meme coins go to zero.”
Contrastingly, Chris Chung argues that memecoins have never truly disappeared, pointing to continued substantial on-chain trading volumes:
“[06:12] Chris Chung: [...] there's still significant volume being traded on meme coins. It's just [...] the narrative that you see on crypto Twitter right now, I think it's just not that good. But it doesn't reflect underlying volumes that are still flowing through the entire meme coin sector.”
Chung highlights that while public discourse may downplay memecoins, their trading activity remains robust, suggesting an enduring niche within the crypto market.
Regulatory considerations are critical when navigating the memecoin landscape. Both Chris Chung and Jen Senassi provide guidance for investors and creators:
Jen Senassi advises caution, noting the high failure rate of memecoins and the regulatory scrutiny they face:
“[07:27] Jen Senassi: [...] Meme Coins are not really the best long term investment in crypto because most of them end up going to zero. [...] Understand the regulations around it. The SEC has finally come out with pro crypto regulation. They've put out their stance on what they think meme Coins are.”
She emphasizes the importance of treating memecoins as speculative trades rather than long-term investments and staying compliant with SEC guidelines to avoid fraud.
Jen Senassi wraps up the episode by reiterating the nuanced position of memecoins in the current crypto landscape. While platforms like SunPump and Raydium are pushing the boundaries of token issuance, memecoins continue to occupy a complex space characterized by significant trading activity juxtaposed with high risk.
“[08:41] Ian Bellina: [...] whether you're investing in Meme Coins or launching them, you should be careful.”
The episode underscores the importance of staying informed and cautious in a rapidly evolving market where narrative and liquidity play pivotal roles in shaping the future of memecoins and token issuance platforms.
Key Takeaways:
For those navigating the crypto markets, this episode provides a comprehensive analysis of current trends, highlighting both opportunities and risks associated with memecoins and the broader DeFi ecosystem.