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Jen Senasi
Hey everyone, I'm Jen Senasi and this is your first look at the crypto markets for the week. Joining me on today's show is Binance's head of VIP and institutional, Catherine Chen. Katherine, good morning.
Catherine Chen
Good morning. Thanks for having me.
Jen Senasi
Of course. Thanks for being here. Now it is Monday. We're sitting here. We saw a little bit of action in the markets this weekend but there are a few key narratives that are driving us into the second half of this year. Curious what you've been watching?
Catherine Chen
Well, obviously in a, for the macro market, you know, we continuously to watch the trade deal that's been happening across the globe. Every time there's a new announcement, clearly the whole market is re reacting to it. I think it's being, you know, we've woken up to a very excited market and I think this will probably, you know, that this will probably continue to, to go on and more. It is expected that more and more will unfold. So this is definitely the most important market event that we are all watching.
Jen Senasi
Yeah, I know that you lead coverage for Binance's most sophisticated clients. This includes individual traders and global financial institutions. Talk to me about how they're looking at crypto markets after the signing of the genius act. It feels like maybe there's a little bit more clarity when it comes to crypto regulation and how crypto firms and investors might be able to operate in the United States at least. How are your clients watching these developments and what kind of questions are they asking?
Catherine Chen
Regulatory clarity is something that you know most and this is especially important for institutional investor and when I, when I talk about institutional investor it is the, our existing one and frankly since the, the, the introduction of etf there are a lot more traffic institutional investor who are, you know, probably toying with the idea of, you know, beyond etf, beyond the traffic instruments should they make one step further into, you know, trading the actual instrument which is crypto.
Jen Senasi
Right.
Catherine Chen
So again for a lot of our, for a lot of our client base, you know what you mentioned, genius, obviously Sheds a lot more clarity for for stablecoin. However, for the broader market, I think a lot of what a lot of investors are looking at are just more regulatory clarity, clarity with the industry and how a specific instrument, asset, you know, instrument are actually regulated.
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Jen Senasi
Insight into like the products and yield strategies that the VIPs and institutions are asking for right now?
Catherine Chen
Oftentimes, you know, for traders capital efficiency is key. What they do is they would generally pledge asset whether on exchange or on, you know, our offset exchange collateral partner, whether it's crypto native solution of it or it's the banking version of it. But generally speaking for a trading type of institutional investor, what they will be looking at is a secure asset that can generate yield and that they can use as asset to pledge so that they can, you know, they can operate their trading operation on the exchange, right? So some of the, some of the most recent announcement on Binance size is recently we have just started supporting tokenized version of money market fund as eligible collateral for our institutional investor to pledge with our partners, either banking partner or crypto custody partner to pledge as eligible collateral so that they can trade on the exchange, right? So for this type of tokenized asset, really what matters to them is a again interest bearing stable assets so that they can just hold that as collateral and then they can use it towards trading on the exchange.
Jen Senasi
You know, tokenized assets have become one of these key narratives that have come out of this year. I'd love to get into your mind a little bit and talk about, you know, what tokenized assets really unlocks for the existing players in this financial system. What are tokenized assets taking us towards?
Catherine Chen
Tokenized real world asset is not a new concept, right? It's been around for a long time and people have experimented different versions version of tokenized asset. However, what has really taken off this year is really the tokenized version of traffic asset, right? And again from the lens of the institutional investor that Binance covers today, first of all, it improves the settlement efficiency, right? And opens up the possibility of essentially allowing them to use these traffic instruments and have it operating in a Settlement window that matches the trading window which is really 24, 7. And again, you know generally instrument is really just, just Monday to Friday. And again this has always historically been a pain point. So this, this is really something that you know obviously just massively improve the efficiency and really is something that matches the crypto operating hours.
Jen Senasi
Now I, I know we talked a little bit about the second half of 2025 but I want to come back to some numbers here that were provided by Binance. So I know in the first half of 2024 compared to the first half of 2025, Binance saw VIP users grow by 21%, trade volume grow by 10%, institutional users grew by 20% and volume grew by 12%. Talk to me a little bit about what you're seeing drive this growth for institutional investor.
Catherine Chen
Generally speaking, it takes them time and again we are talking about wide spectrum of institutional investor in Binance, vip, Umbrel, Umbrella. This is where we really serve a wide range of different type of institutional investor.
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Catherine Chen
As you rightly point out at the beginning, you know we cover high net wealth, individual family offices, hedge fund asset manager, all the way to the top high frequency traders and and proprietary firm. Right. So oftentimes for the institutional type of investor it takes some time to wrap up their volume. Right. Clearly we have gone into a pretty positive, you know, we've been riding on pretty positive market sentimen.
Jen Senasi
Right.
Catherine Chen
So many, we have been seeing a lot of institutional investor, you know, after they on board they follow the, you know, the usual cycle to ramp up but they obviously try to ramp up a bit faster so that they can, you know, cash and ride on the market sentiment. We do expect to continue to see this number to grow because again some of quite a large number of the institutional investor that we are now onboarding onto Binance, generally speaking what we have observed is they definitely take a bit longer time versus versus our, you know, our existing crypto native audience because again when it comes to institutional investor making the decision to come into crypto, making the decision on which trading venue to onboard and activate their trading activity, it all take pretty significant amount of time.
Jen Senasi
Catherine, thanks so much for joining me and taking a look at the markets this morning. I'm sure we'll chat again soon.
Catherine Chen
Thank you. Thank you.
Host: Jen Senasi
Guest: Catherine Chen, Head of VIP and Institutional at Binance
Release Date: July 28, 2025
In this insightful episode of Markets Daily Crypto Roundup, hosted by Jen Senasi from CoinDesk, the spotlight is on the burgeoning interest of institutional investors in the cryptocurrency market. Jen is joined by Catherine Chen, Binance's Head of VIP and Institutional, to delve deep into the dynamics driving this significant trend. Below is a comprehensive summary of their discussion, highlighting key points, expert insights, and notable quotes.
Jen Senasi opens the conversation by addressing the current state of the crypto markets, noting subtle movements over the weekend but emphasizing overarching narratives shaping the latter half of the year.
Catherine Chen emphasizes the importance of global trade developments:
"We continuously watch the trade deals happening across the globe. Every new announcement causes the whole market to react. We've woken up to a very excited market, and this excitement is likely to continue."
[01:03]
Chen underscores that these trade deals are pivotal market events that stakeholders are closely monitoring, signaling a period of heightened activity and potential growth in the crypto sector.
Jen shifts the focus to regulatory developments, specifically the signing of the Genius Act, and its implications for institutional players in the crypto space.
Jen Senasi points out:
"It feels like there's a little bit more clarity when it comes to crypto regulation and how crypto firms and investors might be able to operate in the United States at least."
[01:31]
Catherine Chen responds by highlighting the critical role of regulatory clarity:
"Regulatory clarity is especially important for institutional investors... With the introduction of ETFs, there are more institutional investors looking beyond traditional instruments into trading actual crypto assets."
[02:00]
Chen explains that the Genius Act provides much-needed transparency, particularly for stablecoins, enabling institutions to navigate the regulatory landscape with greater confidence and explore more direct engagement with crypto trading.
The conversation delves into the increasing interest in tokenized assets and the yield strategies that institutional clients are pursuing.
Jen Senasi remarks:
"Tokenized assets have become one of these key narratives that have come out this year. What are tokenized assets taking us towards?"
[04:48]
Catherine Chen elaborates on the advantages of tokenization:
"Tokenized real-world assets improve settlement efficiency and allow operations to align with the 24/7 trading windows of crypto markets, as opposed to the traditional Monday to Friday schedules."
[05:06]
By enabling continuous trading and heightened efficiency, tokenized assets bridge the gap between traditional finance and the dynamic crypto environment, making them highly attractive to institutional investors.
Jen introduces specific growth statistics from Binance, highlighting notable increases in VIP users, trade volume, and institutional participation between the first halves of 2024 and 2025.
Catherine Chen attributes this growth to Binance's comprehensive service offering:
"We serve a wide range of institutional investors, from high-net-worth individuals and family offices to hedge funds and high-frequency traders."
[06:36]
She further explains the factors fueling this expansion:
"Institutional investors take time to ramp up their trading activities. However, with positive market sentiment, they are accelerating their growth to capitalize on favorable conditions."
[07:17]
Chen anticipates continued growth as Binance onboarding more institutional clients who seek robust and efficient trading platforms to maximize their market engagement.
As the discussion wraps up, both Jen and Catherine reflect on the optimistic trajectory of institutional involvement in crypto markets. The collaboration between regulatory frameworks like the Genius Act and innovative financial instruments such as tokenized assets is fostering an environment conducive to sustained growth and investment.
Jen Senasi concludes:
"Catherine, thanks so much for joining me and taking a look at the markets this morning. I'm sure we'll chat again soon."
[08:11]
This episode offers a nuanced exploration of the factors propelling institutional investments into cryptocurrency, emphasizing the synergy between regulatory advancements and financial innovation. Catherine Chen's insights provide a clear understanding of how Binance is positioned to cater to the evolving needs of institutional clients, underpinning the substantial growth witnessed in recent times.
For those keen on understanding the intersection of traditional finance and the crypto revolution, this episode serves as a valuable resource.