Podcast Summary: Más de uno – “jkjk”

Host: OndaCero (Raúl)
Guest: Justa Cañivano (Centro Pedagógico y Académico ENASIS)
Date: December 18, 2025

Episode Overview

In this Thursday edition of “Más de uno,” the focus is on education and, specifically, the crucial role of conversation and observation in supporting children academically during the holiday season. Host Raúl and guest Justa Cañivano (from ENASIS) explore how family time over the holidays is a unique opportunity to reflect with children and teenagers about the past trimester—not by fixating on grades, but on personal experiences and needs.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Value of Holiday Conversations

• With the holiday break, young people have more free time, and families have more opportunities to come together.
• Justa encourages using this time for relaxed, genuine conversations to understand children’s academic and personal needs.
  • “Quiero en estos días fomentar esos momentos de encuentro para detectar necesidades académicas.” (Justa, 01:20)

How to Approach the Conversation

• Emphasis on finding the right moment rather than forcing “sit-down” talks.
  • "Es importante el encontrar el momento, más que el hablar. No es el 'venga, vamos a sentarnos y hablar', no." (Raúl, 01:56)
• Authentic interest and active listening are key—children should feel the parent genuinely wants to talk, not just fulfill a parental duty.
  • “Tienes que notar que, o sea, que él note que tú quieres hablar con él y que él sienta la necesidad de escucharte o de hablar contigo.” (Justa, 02:16)
• If a child reacts with reluctance or disinterest, it’s okay—let the moment come naturally later.

Creating a Safe Space

• The aim is not to emphasize grades or achievements but to let children express challenges, frustrations, or needs.
  • “No nos centremos solo en los números... Obsérvale, por favor, que está a lo mejor deseando decírtelo y no sabe cómo.” (Justa, 05:43)
  • Parents are encouraged to listen and offer support without judgment or reproach.
  • “Hablar sin acritud y sin reñir.” (Justa, 04:48)

Reflecting on the Trimester

• Suggested questions:
  • How did you feel this term?
  • Did you find studying easy or hard?
  • Was there a subject that particularly challenged or bored you?
• Raúl underscores moving beyond discussing only grades:
  • “Incluso hacer este momento de encuentro sin tener en cuenta las notas... ¿Cómo te has encontrado? ¿Te ha sido fácil estudiar o te ha sido difícil?” (Raúl, 05:07)
• Open conversation allows the child to articulate needs, potentially leading to new strategies for the upcoming term.

Importance of Observation (as an Educator and Parent)

• Justa references her own classroom practice of observing and listening to students’ inner thoughts, applying the same principle at home over the holidays:
  • “Yo estoy con tres niños en mi mesa y constantemente estoy observando y necesito saber lo que piensan los tres en ese momento, que eso es apasionante...” (Justa, 03:41)
• The act of being present and attentive is often as important as giving advice or solutions.

Navigating Family Celebrations and Schedules

• The conversation touches on the busyness of the holidays and the ongoing support from ENASIS, with Justa mentioning their availability even during critical holiday dates.
  • “No paramos, estamos todos los días... veintidós, veintitrés, veintiséis, veintinueve, treinta, dos y cinco y siete...” (Justa, 06:20)
• She expresses a fondness for the inclusive spirit of Christmas and open family gatherings.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Justa (01:20): “Quiero en estos días fomentar esos momentos de encuentro para detectar necesidades académicas.”
• Raúl (01:56): “No es el ‘venga, vamos a sentarnos y hablar’, no.”
• Justa (02:16): “Que él note que tú quieres hablar con él y que él sienta la necesidad de escucharte o de hablar contigo.”
• Justa (05:43): “No nos centremos solo en los números... Obsérvale, por favor, que está a lo mejor deseando decírtelo y no sabe cómo.”
• Justa (06:14): “A mí la Navidad me encanta, ¿qué quieres que te diga? Yo pongo la mesa en Navidad y que venga quien quiera...”

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:23 – 01:20: Introduction and framing—using holiday time for family and reflection
• 01:20 – 03:41: The importance of finding natural, genuine moments to talk with children; the educator’s perspective on observation
• 03:41 – 05:07: Challenges of forced conversations; kids’ reluctance and the importance of patience
• 05:07 – 05:43: Moving the discussion beyond grades; encouraging honest dialogue about feelings and challenges
• 05:43 – 06:38: Avoiding focus on numbers and achievements—prioritizing presence and empathy
• 06:38 – 07:00: Practical information about ENASIS's availability during the holidays

Summary Takeaways

• The holidays are an ideal time to connect with children beyond academic results.
• Authentic, patient listening, and observation foster trust and openness.
• Family conversations should prioritize well-being, challenges, and needs—not just numbers.
• Support structures like ENASIS remain available for guidance, even during festive periods.

This episode offers a warm, pragmatic guide for parents facing the pressures of grades and academic feedback, urging them to choose empathy, active listening, and meaningful dialogue as gifts for their children this season.