Podcast Summary: Más de uno – "Tertulia: Resaca electoral aragonesa" (Onda Cero, 09/02/2026)

Overview

This episode, hosted by Carlos Alsina, delves deep into the aftermath of the recent Aragonese regional elections, featuring on-air analysis, newspaper reactions, a live roundtable with political commentators, and interviews with key political figures, including Jorge Pueyo (Chunta Aragonesista), Jorge Azcón (PP, likely next president of Aragón), and Tomás Guitarte (Aragón Existe). The tone is lively, sharp, and at times, humorously critical, as the panel dissects the meaning and consequences of the elections for Aragón and national Spanish politics.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Media and Political Analysis of Election Results

(00:30–13:58)

• Electoral Outcome: The newspapers are saturated with the results and implications of the Aragonese election, with PP labeled as "gana perdiendo" ("wins by losing"), Vox as "pierde ganando" ("loses by winning"), and PSOE as "pierde perdiendo" ("loses by losing").
• Significance of Aragón: Aragón is jokingly referred to as "our Ohio," a political bellwether.
• PP and Vox: The PP has lost two seats, raising questions about their strategy of competing with or mimicking Vox.
  • “Copiar a Vox no es la solución. Esto va de bloques. Lo importante es debilitar al bloque contrario.” (00:30, anonymous PP source cited)
• PSOE’s Troubles: Despite some local wins (e.g., winning in Nga de los Caballeros despite dropping 12 points), the overall story is a collapse, prompting talk of necessary internal reform and self-critique.

Memorable Quotes

• "Lo ocurrido no se sabía cuando se avanzaron las elecciones... la máxima: tu gente te juzgará no por cómo lo hiciste, sino por si ganaste o si perdiste." – Carlos Alsina, summarizing Redondo’s column (02:00)
• “El PP trabaja para que Vox suba. El PSOE trabaja para que Vox suba, Vox trabaja para que Vox suba y el resultado de esta confluencia es Vox sube.” – Citing Peláez, ABC columnist (08:10)

2. Roundtable Analysis: The Winners and Losers (“Tertulia”)

(13:58–38:47)

• Shifting Blocks: Discussion centers on how both right and left blocs have shifted, with "forces of rupture" growing.
  • “Las fuerzas impugnadoras crecen, el resto bajan.” – Alsina (11:29)
• Mistakes and Consequences: PP’s campaign is critiqued for lacking coherence, especially their attempt to appeal to Vox voters by inviting controversial figures (e.g., Vito Quiles).
  • “Lo que no puede ser es que tú quieras frenar a Vox pareciéndote a Vox, porque al final la gente va a votar a Vox.” – María Daván (27:37)
• Vox’s Surge: Vox doubled its representation, increasingly acting as “the big winner,” with nothing seeming to erode its appeal—atmosphere likened to Trump’s supporters.
  • “Ahora mismo nada penaliza a Vox, ni siquiera estos gestos antiinstitucionales de no ir al 12 de octubre, no ir al día de la Constitución, no ir al funeral de Aldamuz.” – María Daván (28:40)
• PSOE and Internal Issues: Comments on how PSOE’s regional strategy seems more aimed at control than at winning elections.
  • “Sánchez no puso ahí a Pilar Alegría para ganar unas elecciones, sino para controlar una federación.” – Alsina (12:02)
• Center Voters: The panel agrees the "centro-derecha" vote is mostly about ousting Sánchez and has little interest in dialogue or compromise.

3. Interview: Jorge Pueyo (Chunta Aragonesista, CHA)

(15:13–24:13)

• Success Despite Context: CHA doubled its seat count due to grassroots municipal outreach and focusing on regional, not just national, issues.
  • “La clave definitiva de chuntaragonesista es su vertebración en el territorio... esos partidos arraigados al territorio al final siempre son los que mejor funcionan.” – Jorge Pueyo (17:04)
• Political Independence Rewarded: Pueyo suggests that maintaining independent positions in Congress, even while being part of a group (Sumar), has been rewarded by voters.
  • “Sí que se nos ha visto como una fuerza honesta, coherente y que ha votado siempre a favor de Aragón.” (18:39)
• Critique of Major Parties: Both PP and PSOE are said to be punished by voters—PSOE for not defending Aragón, PP for opportunistic election timing.
• Future Representation: CHA loses its unique congressional voice as Pueyo moves to the Aragonese parliament.

4. Interview: Jorge Azcón (PP, winner of election, President-elect of Aragón)

(41:17–53:53)

• On the Campaign and Voters' Message: Azcón defends calling elections due to the lack of approved budgets and claims the “winner’s” legitimacy, despite losing seats.
  • "Estas elecciones las gana el Partido Popular y que la única alternativa de gobierno que hay es el Partido Popular. [...] El resultado no es redondo." – Jorge Azcón (42:37)
• On Vox: Acknowledges the party doubled its result and attributes it to national-level polarization and discontent rather than local issues.
  • “Vox está recogiendo el enfado que Sánchez genera en nuestra sociedad… el cabreo no consiste en gritar, sino en trabajar.” (46:08)
• On Governing with Vox: Emphasizes that governance will require a "mínimo común" (common minimum), ruling out adopting Vox’s program wholesale, but seeking agreements.
  • “Hay que gestionar una investidura, hay que gestionar una mayoría para gobernar Aragón y eso significa diálogo y acuerdos bajo una fórmula que he repetido mucho: la del mínimo común. Ni tu posición ni la mía.“ (50:09)
• Transferability to National Politics: Cautions against directly extrapolating Aragonese results to the national arena, but acknowledges the heavy influence of national politics on the vote.
  • “Creo que la política nacional influye indudablemente... y hay un componente en unos más que en otros de lo que es la política nacional.” (51:44)

5. Interview: Tomás Guitarte (Aragón Existe, losing seats)

(54:21–61:29)

• On Losing Ground: Recognizes that some of Aragón Existe and Teruel Existe's voting base shifted to CHA and even to Vox as a protest vote, expressing frustration about the mechanics of “viral” electoral appeal.
  • “Habrá podido desviarse hacia Vox, pero no por ideología de ultraderechas, sino simplemente como acto de protesta…” (55:16)
• Polarization and Localism: Laments that national-level debate crowded out truly regional issues, hindering territorialist parties.
• On Facilitating or Blocking Vox: Claims PSOE (and possibly CHA) could avoid Vox’s power by backing alternative governments, but that ideological rigidity prevents these alliances.

6. Panel Reflections & Political Commentary

(62:03–67:00; highlights start at 62:40 with Marta García Ayer's intervention)

• Demobilization of the Left: Analysis shows the significant drop for the left is a key factor and the usual "stop the far-right" message is failing to mobilize voters.
  • “La amenaza de que viene la extrema derecha no moviliza… el votante de izquierdas se ha desmovilizado.” – Marta García Ayer (62:44)
• PP's Gamble: The attempt to appeal to younger voters via controversial figures is mocked as tone-deaf and ineffective.
  • “Sacarte de la chistera, Vito Quiles... pues es un poco eso... el perfil del votante del PP está muy envejecido y el voto joven pues se lo está llevando Vox.” – Marta (64:49)
• Polls and Expectation Management: CIS polling is both criticized and partially vindicated for its broad but (sometimes) accurate prediction bands.

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “Esto va de bloques. Lo importante es debilitar al bloque contrario.” – Citing PP source in press review (00:30)
• “El PP trabaja para que Vox suba. El PSOE trabaja para que Vox suba, Vox trabaja para que Vox suba y el resultado de esta confluencia es Vox sube.” – Peláez, ABC, quoted (08:10)
• “La clave definitiva de chuntaragonesista es su vertebración en el territorio... esos partidos arraigados al territorio al final siempre son los que mejor funcionan.” – Jorge Pueyo (17:04)
• “Vox está recogiendo el enfado que Sánchez genera en nuestra sociedad… el cabreo no consiste en gritar, sino en trabajar.” – Jorge Azcón (46:08)
• “La amenaza de que viene la extrema derecha no moviliza… el votante de izquierdas se ha desmovilizado.” – Marta García Ayer (62:44)
• “Sacarte de la chistera, Vito Quiles... es un poco eso... el perfil del votante del PP está muy envejecido y el voto joven pues se lo está llevando Vox.” – Marta García Ayer (64:49)

Timeline of Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-------------|-------------------------------------------------------| | 00:30–13:58 | Press roundup and monologue by Carlos Alsina | | 13:58–38:47 | Panel roundtable: first reactions, main takeaways | | 15:13–24:13 | Interview: Jorge Pueyo (Chunta Aragonesista) | | 41:17–53:53 | Interview: Jorge Azcón (PP, winner/president-elect) | | 54:21–61:29 | Interview: Tomás Guitarte (Aragón Existe) | | 62:03–67:00 | Panelist wrap-ups and deeper analysis |

Conclusions

• Aragón Moves Right: The election marks a historic tilt to the right in Aragón's parliament, with Vox as the standout gainer.
• PP’s Risky Strategy: Attempts to balance moderation and compete with Vox apparently backfired, leading to seat loss and growing dependency on Vox.
• Left in Disarray: PSOE faces internal reckoning after a punishing result; the left’s message failed to mobilize.
• Rise of Localism with a Cost: Small regional parties fared well only where deep local roots compensated for the nationalization of the debate.
• Nationalization of Regional Votes: The national political climate, especially the divisive style of Sánchez and Feijóo, dominated what should have been a regional contest.
• Alliance Arithmetic: Forming a government will require awkward arrangements or abstentions, with the stability of the next administration uncertain.

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