Ep 593 - Nollywood (feat. Ben Avery & Kevin Iso)

Summary

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 593 – Nollywood (feat. Ben Avery & Kevin Iso)

Release Date: January 8, 2026
Hosts: Matt McCusker & Shane Gillis (Absent)
Guests: Ben Avery & Kevin Iso

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Episode Overview

This episode is a fast-paced, unfiltered comedy roundtable featuring Matt, Kevin, and Ben, centering on scams, cultural peculiarities, and observations on modern society—all with an undercurrent of playful banter and occasionally outrageous comedic improvisation. The crew dives into hot-button news, “Nollywood” (Nigerian cinema), tales of daycares, scams from Minnesota to Nigeria, the strange world of OnlyFans, and what it means to grow up, raise kids, and handle generational trauma—all delivered in the show’s irreverent, riff-heavy style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. “Interracial Girlfriend” Comedy Cold Open (00:02–02:36)

• Kevin riffs on the supposed cultural cachet of having a Chinese girlfriend in a black family, suggesting it's seen as an unusual victory:
  “If I had a Chinese girlfriend, my family would be like kinda sick…In a black family…you’d get a mega high five...” (00:15)
• The crew jokes about the reactions of different communities to interracial dating, emphasizing that women, in general, "don’t like seeing their men date outside the race.”
• Casual, comedic analysis of relationship heartbreak—whether it stings more for the young or old.

2. “Look at Her Mother” – Absurd Dating Advice (02:37–03:40)

• Ben brings up the cliché advice to “look at her mother” before settling down; Kevin runs with it, deadpanning an Oedipal twist:
  “I thought the saying was fap to her mother...” (02:43)
• The gang riffs on the unpredictability of genetic inheritance, italicizing how Italians “just wait for that meatball to cook.”

3. The Minnesota Somali Daycare Fraud Scandal & American Scam Culture (04:13–18:43)

• Kevin, Matt, and Ben dive into the viral Minnesota Somali daycare fraud allegations.
• They discuss the multiple recent welfare and medical frauds attributed to Somali communities, such as the “Feed the Future” COVID scam totaling $250 million.
• Insightful comedic take:
  Matt: “I personally, I just don’t care about people stealing my taxpayer dollars. I don’t know where them shits is going anyway.” (08:48)
• They draw a line between visible “street level scams” and hidden “white-collar/bureaucratic” scams, concluding:
  Ben: “Everybody’s scamming. Nancy Pelosi’s scamming…It’s going everywhere but us—to roads, to our children.” (18:04)
• The group playfully weighs which types of scams are worth getting worked up about and whether the media fixations have a racial or political bias.

4. Nollywood and Nigerian Scammers: Cross-Cultural Comedy (25:45–31:47)

• Kevin shares an outsider’s perspective on Nollywood after visiting a Nigerian restaurant, expressing awe at the low budgets and creative hustle:
  Kevin: “You can film a movie in Nigeria for like 15 grand…” (25:45)
• Matt describes typical Nollywood movie plots—cheating husbands, witchcraft—and the widespread cultural tropes involving witches and the supernatural.
• Ben and Kevin marvel at legendary Nigerian scammers, including one who “sold an airport that didn’t exist” and the infamous “Hush Puppy,” netting millions from Premier League clubs.
• The crew jokes about the evolution of Nigerian email scams and their secretive upgrades:
  Matt: “Everybody still think that’s the scam that Nigerians is doing. We left y’all in the 90s thinking that, and now we doing new stuff.” (31:25)

5. Scams 2026: From OnlyFans to Catfishing & AI Romance (33:04–36:44)

• A discussion on the economics of OnlyFans, immigration, and how adult content creators can more easily get US visas than legitimate performers.
• Ben explains, “OnlyFans is $13 billion a year. ... Comedy is way under here,” (36:44) listing porn, video gaming, and gambling as the dominant digital revenue streams.
• They touch on Asian call-center scams, advances in AI-driven romance scams, and the ever-evolving ways people try to hustle.

6. Generational Parenting, Childhood, and the “Hot Car Punishment” Era (40:19–45:17)

• Ben and Kevin reflect on their own upbringings—locked in rooms by parents, left to roam, or punished by being sent into hot cars—and how they hope to break cycles of trauma.
• Ben: “You like to think you’re not your parents, but…every now and then you go, I’m the exact same guy.” (42:05)
• The trio riffs about the future of parenting, how not to “repeat the traumas,” and compares American generational changes in discipline style.
• Sardonic joke about kid safety:
  “I do dry saunas every day. I’m fine. 25 minutes. If anything, the baby just activated his heat shock protein.” (45:09)

7. Hallucinogens, Ayahuasca, and DMT Entities (54:22–57:53)

• Discussion turns to trips and spiritual journeys:
  • “You ever go underwater for like a little too long and you’re like lightheaded? It’s almost romantic… Burning alive is literally the worst of the worst.” (48:03)
  • Is ayahuasca a scam or spiritual experience? Matt and Kevin are skeptical of people returning for “75 trips.”
  • Kevin relates his own DMT experience: “It was literally, probably like 15 seconds of just a … multi-headed jester … being like ‘Dude, you’re a loser.’” (56:24)
• Ben and Kevin wonder whether trips involve contacting “angels or demons.”

8. The Aging American Empire & Political Speculation (63:00–66:48)

• Ben and Kevin segue into big-picture speculation on the U.S. as a declining empire—the rise of scams, resource grabs (like Venezuela for oil), and the cyclical nature of “creating problems to act as if you’re fixing them”:
  • “They’re really good at creating problems to then act like they’re fixing the problem.” (64:26)
• Ben brings up recent police violence in Minneapolis, lamenting government bureaucracy’s complicity and cyclical self-justification.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Scams:
  “Everybody’s scamming…It’s just that when it’s so obvious what the scam is…everybody gets a little tight.” – Matt (18:21)

• On Hallucinogens:
  “Once you get the message, hang up the phone…So why do you pick up the phone 75 more times?” – Ben (54:36)

• On Parenting:
  “You like to think you’re not your parents, but…every now and then you go, I’m the exact same guy.” – Ben (42:05)

• On Old Age:
  “When everyone gets really old, they become very racist.” – Ben (61:17)

• On America:
  “We hit the lottery being born in America…We’re a empire, dude. Russia’s busting moves and China’s busting moves. It’s time America bust a move.” – Kevin (63:06)

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Funniest/Most Memorable Segments (Timestamps)

• Dating Advice Gone Wild:
  “Fap to her mother…” – (02:43)
• Nollywood Plots and Witchcraft:
  “Believe in witches is crazy. ... It’s actually real for real.” – Matt (27:21)
• Nigerian Scams & Hush Puppy:
  “He sold an airport to somebody…He sold an airport that didn’t exist.” – Matt (29:38)
• DMT Entity Bullying:
  “Multi-headed jester…‘You’re a loser.’” – Kevin (56:24)
• Ayahuasca Skepticism:
  “I think it’s just a giant party, though.” – Kevin (54:36)
• On OnlyFans and Money:
  “OnlyFans is $13 billion a year…Comedy is way under here.” – Ben (36:44)

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Listener Q&A Highlights (67:11–73:03)

• The show closes with several outrageous “premium subscriber” questions, including morbid tales about cremation, a bizarre question about being an only child after a sibling’s accident, and one about whether a boyfriend is “turning black” after watching interracial porn—all addressed with the hosts’ signature mix of bemused shock and sardonic amusement.

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Closing

Matt, Kevin, and Ben wrap up by plugging upcoming shows and projects, maintaining the loose, riff-driven style typical of MSSP. The episode is marked by its wild comedic energy, candid social commentary, and memorable digressions—from African cinema to the most American of scams and generational trauma.

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For listeners looking for:

• Deep-dives into modern scams, both low-level and systemic
• Cultural riffs (from Minnesota to Nigeria and Thailand)
• Stand-up-level jokes about parenting, aging, and tripping
• Raw, hilarious, and very unfiltered comedic conversation

This episode stands as a prime showcase for why the podcast boasts what they call “the funniest podcast out there.”

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Transcript

[Matt McCusker]

The wild, wild west.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Chinese girl, man. Just leave with it. Just lead with it. Chinese girlfriend.

[Matt McCusker]

This guy's a genius. I heard him for three seconds.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I can't forget. I know Chinese girlfriend. How sad would you be though, dude? You're like a maybe 55 year old black dude and you lose your Chinese girlfriend. That would kill me. I just feel like more so. And again, correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like, you know, if I had a Chinese girlfriend, I mean, I'm married, my family would probably disapprove, but if I had a Chinese girlfriend, my family would be like kind of sick. I might get a couple like Chinese girlfriend. But I feel like in a black family to have a Chinese girlfriend, you'd get a mega high five. Correct me if I'm wrong. From the youngs, from the.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, from the men. Oh yeah, the men would. They'd be like, you did it right. Yeah, the men would definitely.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Women, they don't like that, do they? I think all women don't like seeing their man of race date a other race. Women are quietly racist against. They don't like interracial stuff.

[Matt McCusker]

You think white women mind?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oh, they do. I know they do.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, they do. Oh yeah. I didn't think they care.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

They know, they get mad. They'll tease. They'll get like three glasses of wine and be like, sound. Are you afraid she's gonna like beat you up? They get like a couple glasses of white, white wine and all their dad's information just trickles out.

[Matt McCusker]

You're afraid he's gonna beat you up.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Trying to hit you. I've been, you know, I'm in an age gap interracial relationship, so I know, is it.

[Matt McCusker]

You think it's, you think it's harder, you think it's harder to lose your girlfriend when you older or younger?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You mean lose?

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah. Cause you said it's pretty rough on.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

A 55 year old dude to lose your Asian girlfriend.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah. Ah, man, I think it's rougher when you're young.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Younger. Yeah, you lose them easier when you're younger. Y5.

[Matt McCusker]

You lose. Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I mean, pre 30, every. Girls are kind of a free agent. Once they kind of hit 30, then they start going like, all right, let me nestle into this sitch.

[Matt McCusker]

Right. Because, you know, but then, but then when you young and you lose them, you didn't really ever really have them, even though you thought you did.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

True.

[Matt McCusker]

When you old and you lose them, you had that.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah.

[Matt McCusker]

And then it's gone.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

And, and that's your final form. She was like, I've seen the flower has fully bloomed. And no thank you for me.

[Matt McCusker]

All you got.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I'm going to take my chances dating as a 50 year old woman, which probably is no picnic if I had to imagine.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

People say, like, you know, before you date a woman, just like, look at her mother.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

I'm like, I'm not going to do that.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I thought the saying was fat to her mother.

[Ben Avery]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I thought it was. Before you date a woman, try to fap to her mother and if.

[Ben Avery]

The night before the wedding, pull up a big photo of her on an iPad.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That's what I thought. The same idea. That bachelor. That's the last hurrah of your bachelor party. You and all your boys.

[Ben Avery]

But does that mean you, like, truly love your wife that you'd your mom? You, baby, I love you so much. I would, I would eat your mom's py.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I mean, I, I, I mean, that is one form, I guess, but that is the saying, like, yo, if you think her mom's hot, that's what her daughters. That's what her daughter's going to look like.

[Ben Avery]

Yeah.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah. And sometimes they don't pan out.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I would like the opposite. I like to have a very attractive woman with an absolutely busted mom and just sit on the edge of my seat for like 15 years waiting, waiting for. Just to watch the, Just to see the transformation.

[Ben Avery]

That's Italians.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, true. It's Italians.

[Ben Avery]

You just wait for that meatball to cook in the oven, you know?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

True.

[Matt McCusker]

She looks like.

[Ben Avery]

Oh, is it all. Sorry. It is all fucked up.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

It's okay. We got a little technical difficulty.

[Ben Avery]

We have phone books. Maybe to. Or I can do this.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

We can't have that.

[Ben Avery]

Fellow from the top, you got a cowboy mic.

[Matt McCusker]

Hey, yo.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, Paul. Oh, you got it. I'm not having, Am I having problems because I'm tall as hell? Either or. No, now my mic's fine. I think I have a different mic to catches, dude. Thanks for doing it, man. Ben, Avery, Kevin, ISO.

[Ben Avery]

Thank you, Matt, thank you.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Hell yeah, man. Thank you guys for coming. Sean was telling me that you had some hot takes on the Ethiopian scandal.

[Matt McCusker]

So you don't even got the right Somali.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

My bad, dude. I, No, I did. I'm more Ethiopian, I think. You Somalian.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, they all.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Sorry, I just. Dude, I get a little nervous sometimes. For 10 years, it's a hot button issue. Yeah, the Somalian. That's what Gardini pitched me. He goes, the isotope has some takes on the I feel, I feel like.

[Matt McCusker]

They'Ve all been said at this point. No, no, but my, my thing with it is, it's twofold, right? One is like, they definitely scamming.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

But it's a matter of fact, I think.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, I mean, it's, it's happening. But at the same time, that doesn't exclude dude from being racist about going about the way he did it.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Talking about the dude, Shirley. Yeah, well, dude, that was. So I watched the video, so I didn't know anything about it, so I'm like, all right, let's see what we have here. And I read up on it first and I was like, yeah, for sure. There's, there's like matter of record scams going on, for sure. But that dude was pulling on daycare doors, right? And being like, where are the children? And they're like, bro, get out of here. And he's like, I fucking. I told you this was a. You're like, you're legally. They're supposed to be locked, right?

[Matt McCusker]

It's.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You have a kid in daycare, it's locked doors. And you're like, please don't let them see into this building.

[Matt McCusker]

For sure.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I don't want weirdos staring in.

[Ben Avery]

I've never been allowed in a daycare. You have kids, you know what I mean?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You got to come with that. Right. Energy and be like, where the are the kids? Or there's taxpayer money. Exactly.

[Matt McCusker]

Or. And filming the kids too, which is.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

It's illegal. Which is like, you can't do that. Yeah, I don't think, I really don't think you're allowed. I mean, you, I guess you could technically film them, but you can't do anything with the footage. Like, even a daycare has to, as a parent, ask you if it's okay if they take pictures of your kids.

[Matt McCusker]

Right.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

So if I roll in with the metas and I'm like, show me the children. Let me in now.

[Matt McCusker]

Exactly.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

With like a 60 year old guy next to.

[Ben Avery]

Who's just waving documents.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

The video was insane. I. I watched it being like, oh, man, they're going to blow my socks off with a scandal. And I was like, this guy's out of his mind. You're not. He's wrong. You're not allowed. I mean, again, it's like, yes, there's clearly massive fraud in Minnesota. Yeah, he's acting like he blew the lid off. It's like, bro, you're like a year and a half late.

[Matt McCusker]

Right? Because they already caught the lady that was originally doing it.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Well, dude, there was that. There was also. There was the autism centers that got busted. And then there was.

[Matt McCusker]

That happened in autism centers.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

It's just big a building like this. Imagine if we all down here, like, yeah, we're working on autism kids and they came down. We're just doing a podcast, making like a million dollars.

[Matt McCusker]

Somebody got to start counting shit fast. Oh, fuck. They hear three, four. The big.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

The biggest. The biggest scam. Again, these are just the ones that get caught. There was one for $250 million recently where during the. During COVID they were getting government funds. It was called like feed the future or something. And dude, these. It was like, I think like 60 people got arrested. They were just taking money and it was. Unfortunately, it was mostly Somalian dudes, but they were taking the money and they took like 250mil in just like food bank money. And they like, you know, they tracked everything. It was. They. They were saying they bought. They gave money to the. Whatever that terrorist organization is.

[Matt McCusker]

They.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

But they. They did a deep dive. It was just sick whips.

[Ben Avery]

It went to warlords and stuff.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

They. No, it didn't. They said it was. But they like did a deep dive and it was apparently just like sick ass Lamborghinis and.

[Matt McCusker]

But see, so.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Okay, so it's kind of tight.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, that's. And that's. That's. That's. That's where one of the dudes, like, messed up at because they like, he got in front of the learning center and he was like, yeah, this is. This is an established. This is a legit business. And then they went on his Instagram. He was in pictures with like, Lambos and stuff. It's like, damn, I don't know. No daycare.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I think he pulled up on the Uber Eats order. Like skirt and dude's like, yo, where the. Is that? Yeah, where'd you get that with. This episode is brought to you by Amazon MGM Studios new movie Mercy only in theaters January 23rd. Set in the near future, trials are run by artificial intelligence that has access to every camera phone and database. Matt, that's so spooky.

[Matt McCusker]

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[Kevin Isopropanol]

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[Matt McCusker]

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[Kevin Isopropanol]

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[Matt McCusker]

But that's my thing with. Okay, so you said the. The feeding center or whatever, and they took.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oh, dude, there is massive.

[Matt McCusker]

Right. This massive fraud, and they busted it.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

They like, they got them.

[Matt McCusker]

I don't care.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I mean, it's fair.

[Matt McCusker]

I personally, I just don't care about people stealing my taxpayer dollars.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That's a fair point.

[Matt McCusker]

I don't know where them shits is going anyway. So what the fuck are they stealing? The money that we took from you.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That you don't know what we doing with it to be fair, Somebody's gonna steal your taxpayer dollars. Like, that's. I think people need to wake up to that reality. If it's not that blatant, it's going to be a bazillion nonprofits who are going like, we just need 100,000 more. And they just pocket it, right?

[Matt McCusker]

And it's already. Or is going to the war. And it's like, I don't know where this is going at all, bro. Y' all don't send me no kind of update after I pay this money about, yo, this is what this is doing.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

The Venezuela shits, I don't know. The Venezuela shit's been, like, pretty open as far as wars go. They're like, yeah, we just took their oil. They're not even hiding it. Before, like, Iraq was like, we're going there just for the oil. Like, no, we're not. They're like, yeah, we went there for the oil and we fucking got it.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, they saying that now?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, they just said, like, we took. We seized their oil. They went in there, they had the Venice. What? Maduro, I guess his name was.

[Matt McCusker]

Was the.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

They were like, he was a tyrant. And, you know, they were like, we just couldn't stand that, you know, stand with that guy being a tyrant and like, smuggling drugs into our country. So we just stole all of their. We stole a lot of their oil, and we're just going to take over their oil industry.

[Matt McCusker]

Okay, I'm glad they're being honest.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That's what I'm saying.

[Matt McCusker]

I thought. I thought he was lying for a little bit because they were talking about the drug situation.

[Ben Avery]

I mean, what do they need oil for?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Venezuela did traffic drugs.

[Ben Avery]

We need it.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Gas into a boat.

[Matt McCusker]

Fucking worry this grand theft auto ass country.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

No, that's a fair take. You don't. So you were seeing a lot of the stuff about like, fuck, this is bullshit. And you're like, yeah, I don't. I don't care that they're scammed. Let them scam.

[Matt McCusker]

I don't. I don't know. Okay. Yeah, I don't care that they're scamming. But also I don't care where my taxpayer dollars go. If they're scamming that kind of money, I'd rather them scam that money than my money that I'm investing. Like whenever these white dudes is doing they fraud, it's money that you actually gave to Enron. It's like my real money. I'd rather you take the money that was already about to be taken. Did they? You know, I mean, I don't know where it's going. So, you know, but they definitely, they definitely. I'm not.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

There's some six year old white kids in Minnesota right now who are furious with that take.

[Matt McCusker]

I don't care.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Paying dogs is going. He don't even know where his going.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, they taking the money. Bless my money. No, it's not your money is. You don't know where the your money at. But my other thing. So with the, with the, with the racism, it's just like, it's like, it's like when I would used to like walk into stores and like they would follow me around like, oh, this black guy stealing. And it's like, oh, you following me around. This is racism. And I was stealing too. But that's what the, that's what the Minnesota share remind me of. It's like, yeah, it's racist.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

But yeah, I think they went the other way. I think the Minnesota government was like, how dare you say that? And then it came out where it was like, yeah, we got app. Because they could have totally. That's not a hard thing to check with like the autism centers and stuff. You send out a couple people with clipboards being how many people we got in here. All right, we're good. I think they were kind of like, we trust you. And they got level.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, the problem, I mean the problem with that too is that they, they just put in all Somalians now. And it's like across the country, because there's a couple of Somalian homies that I got out here. Really, that people are like, yo, they just looking at their foreheads. They just look at their foreheads.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Are you, you Somalia?

[Matt McCusker]

It's rough out here for y' all right now. It's like, damn.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Which.

[Matt McCusker]

Which, I mean, that's just, that's the, that's the part about it that just. Yeah, that stings the most.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That's tough. But I mean, here's the thing though. Like, as a, like a black American, do you ever think about just like, totally just ostracizing Them and coming up dunking on them.

[Matt McCusker]

Racially, no, I'm Nigeria.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Well, that's what I'm saying. Oh, so you're nice. You're. You're from Nigeria. Yeah, yeah, I'm Nigerian by marriage, so I totally get. My wife's. Her family's Nigerian.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, really?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I've been to a Nigerian wedding. They're sick.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, I was just at one a couple months ago.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Begged the father of the. The bride.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, you did?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oh, I wanted to. I asked to do it too. They're like, no, you gotta chill.

[Matt McCusker]

But you didn't have a Nigerian wedding.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

No, no, she's like, you know, she's. She's not like her like grandmother supposedly is, but you know, okay, they're not from where you know, we're from.

[Ben Avery]

But this is the map of the daycares. It was 4,000 in a 20 mile radius.

[Matt McCusker]

Are these the ones that are frauded? That's not. That's a lot of.

[Ben Avery]

So here's the thing. When I hear. When people go.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Why are some red and why are some green?

[Ben Avery]

I'm not sure, but somewhere in the middle of the water too. Well, they are pirates. Right? Makes sense. I personally, when everybody went up to the day, when people went up to the daycares, they're like, there's no kids in the Somalian daycares. I was like, I was relieved. I was like, thank God there's no children. It's like, worst case scenario, like, thank God they're in.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

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[Matt McCusker]

When did they, when did they run into these daycares too? That's the, that's my other thing because I saw this on Christmas. I mean, it was like, it ain't nobody in the daycare. I'm like, it's the holiday.

[Ben Avery]

Supposedly. This video is debunking it. I didn't go looking for them.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Well, so here's the thing too.

[Ben Avery]

And I'm pro pirate. I've always loved pirates. Who doesn't love pirates?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

True. That's fair. So the video itself, apparently, and this, I was curious too, because they looked into it and it was like, no, these were all legit daycares. Because I guess whatever, Minnesota State came through, Minnesota Vikings came through and just like, no, these are all checkout. And then you go, okay, well, is this like a government cover up? Like the Democrats being like, dude, we can't take another political hit. It's going to be an election year. But then it's like, apparently it's, it's. I think they were legitly running because, dude, like Republican, like, lawyers. And they were. The moment that video came out, there was probably a bazillion lawyers, like digging in and all that stuff. So really, if it wasn't above board, they would have, I think they would have cracked it. You know what I mean? Yeah, because they were like the, you know, if you get like the Republican guys, they're super motivated to like prove that they're a scam.

[Matt McCusker]

Right?

[Ben Avery]

It just looks, it's a big slam dunk.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Huge slam dunk. 360 slam dunk. But they already got the slam dunk. The young YouTuber went in for like a weird victory lap.

[Matt McCusker]

Did you?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Tim Waltz quit. Tim Waltz.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, yeah, I saw that. I saw that.

[Ben Avery]

And it was a headshot.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

It was a headshot.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

And he ate waltzes. And that guy went on like, I ended walls.

[Ben Avery]

Well, and Reality is kind of memed into existence anyway, so it doesn't really matter what's true. So, yeah, he had to take the L. I don't even know if it's real or not. Have you actually found out, like, the real, like, definitive.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I looked it up. There's. There was a definitive scam. People were prosecuted for $250 million. You have to think, like, say you're selling drugs. When that finally gets busted, you don't bust them right away. So it was. Right. They were probably rocking.

[Ben Avery]

They were running it for a while.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

They were rocking.

[Ben Avery]

They robbed us at sea, then they rob us at land.

[Matt McCusker]

Did you see the late.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

They.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, go ahead.

[Ben Avery]

No, no, go ahead.

[Matt McCusker]

No, get it out. Get it out, get it out.

[Ben Avery]

Step in ISO. Please have the floor.

[Matt McCusker]

Get it out.

[Ben Avery]

Look, he wanted someone on to defend pirates.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

And no, it wasn't. It. I thought it was just a funny take because I didn't know anything about it. And Gardini was like, yeah, I so wants to talk about.

[Matt McCusker]

I'm definitely. I'm definitely passionate about it.

[Ben Avery]

I'm all for scams. I mean, we live in a bureaucracy, right? And like, that's. These scams are supposed to be hidden within the bureaucratic state. That's why it exists, so they can do other scams.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

So when other people are. I mean, everybody's scamming. Nancy Pelosi's scamming. You know, we're paying for health insurance for Israelis for some reason, apparently, tax dollars. It's going everywhere. It's going everywhere but us, to roads, to our children. So, you know, go pirates.

[Matt McCusker]

Did you. Did you see. Which is. Which is a fair point, by the way. Everybody's scamming. It's just that when you. When it's so obvious what the scam is.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah.

[Matt McCusker]

That's.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah.

[Matt McCusker]

Everybody get a little tight. We're like, yo, you, dude, there ain't no kids in the daycare. It's like, yeah, versus. Versus the bank fraud scam, where it's hard to see. You walk into the bank, it look like it's real.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yep.

[Matt McCusker]

And then you pull the thing down and know.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Pull it off a little better.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

And also, too, like, you have to think if you're. I mean, I don't know. I don't know really much about Minnesota, but you can never underestimate just like an older kind of angry, like, white. Old white guy.

[Ben Avery]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

There were eyes on those guys. Yeah, they. They had eyes on the Somalis from day one.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, yeah.

[Ben Avery]

This guy's going he was on to them immediately.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

What the is it? They just. They just got stared at for 10 years until a guy was like, hold on a second. I noticed something here.

[Matt McCusker]

Come on, man. You know how many times I've seen Fargo? I ain't seen one Somalian inside that.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

What, in the movie? You're saying in the show, all of.

[Matt McCusker]

It is Fargo in Minnesota? I think it's. Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I think. I think Minnesota, maybe.

[Matt McCusker]

I don't know.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Minnesota might have, like, the biggest Somalian population.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, because they. They, they. They. They let the man.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Sanctuary. Yeah, sanctuary.

[Matt McCusker]

Right. Huh? Because they're scamming.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

No, they did. Sanctuary city.

[Matt McCusker]

Did you see the. Did you see the. The kid on cnn?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

But you're the kid who did the video.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, yeah. Did you see in an interview. Y' all can't play that on here. He looks so dumb on there.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Who, Shirley?

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

How old is Nick Shirley?

[Matt McCusker]

Like 21.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, he. That's the thing. He's a youngster.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, he's a kid.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

He's a youngster.

[Matt McCusker]

He's kind of in over his head a little bit.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, he's drunk.

[Matt McCusker]

Old guy's Nixon, dude.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

The old guy waving paper, dude. The old guy has a thousand pages of loose leaf. Or he's been tracking smiles. He is. That guy's not.

[Ben Avery]

He's been thinking about preschools way before this scam ever happened.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Well, no, the thing that. The thing that they didn't mention, though, they brought up in the video, which, again, to the video's point, like, yes, they had. They have a major problem with Somalian scamming in Minnesota. But then there was, like, these just vehicles that were like, hey, we can we just drive people around for medical appointments? But then they were like, they're not checking. And again, I don't know if this guy's true or not say that he's like. But that's.

[Matt McCusker]

That's.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, that's in every city, dude.

[Matt McCusker]

Home.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

The home care hustle is like, the oldest. Sure, just chill with your aunt and get 30 bucks an hour.

[Matt McCusker]

Absolutely.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Everywhere. That's everywhere. Which, again, kind of chill. I honestly think the home care thing is kind of. That's kind of nice.

[Matt McCusker]

It's a good scam.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

It's a really good scam.

[Matt McCusker]

And it's like a low state scam.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

For real.

[Matt McCusker]

Like, even the daycare thing, it's a low stakes thing for, like, if you say that you got 50 kids in a daycare, but you really got 25, who you hurting?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, well, there's another 25 kids, you should be in there.

[Ben Avery]

Yeah, like, they're. They're printing so much money every month anyway now it's. Yeah, money's not real anymore.

[Matt McCusker]

I'm kidding. Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I mean, hey, look, tell that to. What's the guy's name again? Surely Shirley's going to be on your fucking ass, dude. He's going to end you. You're next. You're on the Shirley hit list.

[Ben Avery]

That guy. I'm skeptical of that guy's video. There's clearly like, fraud of some kind. But the. He had a video with Joe Biden where he was holding up immigration signs and shit.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Who is this one?

[Ben Avery]

He was paying immigrants to hold up signs that said, like, we're for Joe Biden because he's going to have open borders. And like, Nick Shirley cop to that. That he was paying people in the video to look like, what? So he stages stuff in his videos. But that doesn't mean it's not on. That it's untrue. It just means he embellishes things.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, see, he's scamming the scammers.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Sure. I mean, he definitely came up. And again, the video, I watched it, I gave it an honest look and I was like, dude, this is.

[Matt McCusker]

It's weird.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Like, ever. I was like, I was trying to look at the comments to see if there'd be one person being like, yeah, you're not allowed to just barge into it. Everyone's like, get him, brother. I'd be. If that was my kids daycare, someone was kicking in the door and they were like, I'm so sorry, sir, please tour the facilities. I'd be like, dude, I'm taking my kids out here.

[Matt McCusker]

Objectively funny leering daycare center. Objectively funny. Missing that in. Objectively hilarious.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Well, they're still, to be fair, they're still just leering. So there's. Obviously, there's improvement. There's improvements to be made. We're all lifelong students.

[Matt McCusker]

Why aren't they like, the parents of.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

The kids coming out?

[Matt McCusker]

Like, if there was kids there, like, Matt said, he'd be like, you like.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oh, because the kids are going to be in the daycare with them.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

And also they're probably scamming, too, a little bit. So they're probably like, dude, get the fuck out of here.

[Matt McCusker]

And also how we know it wasn't an overnight daycare. How we know it's not.

[Ben Avery]

How we know because some people are in night school.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

How we know it's not a daycare for strippers. That is for kids that's always sad when I see. You see that in Philly. Sometimes you're driving through a neighborhood and you see the daycare hours, and it's like 2am pickup, and you're like, God, yeah, dude. God. They legit have, like, midnight pickup on daycare.

[Matt McCusker]

How we know they don't get paid in ones? True. You got to drop looking at this the right way.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Just got to drop the crown royal sack full of ones every month. No, I work at a daycare.

[Matt McCusker]

I swear.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I swear.

[Matt McCusker]

I swear. I watch kids. You watch kids with this? Hold on.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I mean, I don't know. I mean, look, maybe we should have a live cam in a small day 24 7. It would be nice as a pedophile watching that being like, there we go. Things are about to change.

[Matt McCusker]

I don't think pedophiles like Somalian kids.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I. I don't know. You don't think so?

[Matt McCusker]

I'm just. I don't. I don't.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You don't like it?

[Ben Avery]

I think Kevin's right on this one. I looked into Michael Guino and country walker, Presidio McMartin. There's no Somalians mentioned in any of Tim Tate's books or anything.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You think it's. Never mind. That's a bad comparison when it comes.

[Ben Avery]

To satanic ritual abuse. Abuse, you know?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

Usually there's not a small.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Too gamey, Maybe pedophile say that. I don't know.

[Ben Avery]

We want Kevin.

[Matt McCusker]

We want Kevin.

[Ben Avery]

It's funny to be mad about daycares now, though. Like, the satanic panic and everything in the 80s and the 90s, you know?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Sorry, I should have kept that to myself.

[Ben Avery]

It's fine. It's more podcasting.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Here's the thing, though, from, like, okay, Nigerian. Right. So excellent scammers. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And they're also, like, Nigerians. I'm a big proponent of Nigerian excellence in terms of mathematics, all that stuff. As a Nigerian, wouldn't you, like, just see a Somali and be like. Or is it, like, more unity than that? Because that's like. I know Ethiopians and Somalians.

[Ben Avery]

Ethiopians, they don't like each other.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I think there's a bit of everybody.

[Matt McCusker]

Everybody beefs. But then like, on when. When you. Outside, when you off the. Off the continent, I think there's a little bit more unity.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah.

[Matt McCusker]

You know, but on it, it is a little bit of, you know, everybody. People be with they. Nigerians that hate other Nigerians.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah. That's fair. I mean, it's like Pennsylvania, New Jersey.

[Matt McCusker]

Right, right, right, right.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

The closer.

[Matt McCusker]

You are the worst. Yeah, it really is. But Nigerian scamming. I hope they don't start looking at into that shit. Nick, stay away. They will us up.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Dude, I actually looked into. I was. I was. I went to a Nigerian restaurant one time and I was watching. There was like, the Nollywood movies. I didn't know what it was. I was watching, like, what, the Hollywood. Yeah. You know about Nollywood? Nigerian. Nigerian Hollywood. And, dude, I like, looked into it. You can film a movie in Nigeria for like 15 grand.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

That's awesome.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Thinking about it.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You know, here. It's like a million bucks.

[Matt McCusker]

That would be. You have to.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

If I did an Hollywood epic would be nice. Just put myself in it, like, Clint Eastwood style. Right. Directed for 15 grand.

[Ben Avery]

You could shoot like Mission Impossible. No, no, no, no.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You do like a nice. A really sick indie movie.

[Matt McCusker]

That would actually be hilarious.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That'd be a sick move.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I would have a brutal schedule, though. So I try to be like, maybe a month. I'm like, you know, I can bring.

[Matt McCusker]

My whole family watch it. I'd definitely watch. You not understand anything they're saying now.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

They're speaking English.

[Matt McCusker]

No, they', English, but it's also pigeon little sometimes.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah. Throwing some French into the mix. No, check it out. Nollywood movies are sick. They're on YouTube for free.

[Ben Avery]

Oh, really?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, yeah, full feature, dude. I watched it in the restaurant and I'm like, bro, what the fuck is this? This movie's crazy.

[Matt McCusker]

A lot of the movies have the same plot, though. A lot of them is like a guy who, like, cheats on his wife and then. And then she, like. He, like. He, like, gets in an accident and comes crawling back to her. Accident. Like, I don't know, like a car accident. Or she, like, puts spell on him and then he can't walk anymore. And then he's like, take me back. I'm sorry.

[Ben Avery]

And she's like, don't they believe in witches and stuff?

[Matt McCusker]

Believe in witches is crazy.

[Ben Avery]

No, they don't.

[Matt McCusker]

No.

[Ben Avery]

I've seen, like, newspapers from over there, and they say, like, a witch can touch your penis and it shrinks into nothing.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

No, that's. That's like. I know you're talking about witchcraft, but.

[Matt McCusker]

It'S not like a belief. It's more so like, oh, you're talking about the occult. Like voodoo type shit. It's like. It's like. I. I won't. I won't say it's like a belief thing. But it's more so. Like, it's more prevalent, and it's actually. It's actually real for real. Like voodoo. I'm not wrong.

[Ben Avery]

He goes, no, but yes.

[Matt McCusker]

And this is real. It is real for real. Yeah. If somebody. If somebody's real, that could do that to you and take your hair and wrap it around some. Or put some blood on you, and then. Yeah, like, I. I think that is real.

[Ben Avery]

You can read about witchcraft in the newspapers there. If you subscribe to any of the newspapers.

[Matt McCusker]

All right.

[Ben Avery]

You can read about it.

[Matt McCusker]

I'm about to scam your ass. Huh?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

There we go.

[Matt McCusker]

That's not. Is that real? It probably is.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I saw. I was watching one earlier, and I was, like, skipping through, and there was. It was exact plot you're describing where it was like a guy had been cheating on her friend.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

And she. Like, there's. I was, like, trying to just, like. I wanted to watch just the climax of the movie. I went to, like, the end, and this lady put, like, a handkerchief on her head, gigantic sunglasses, and just confronted a guy being like, I know what you did. He's like, you cannot prove it. It's literally. And I only watched for, like, 10 seconds. It was the exact lines of her.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah. They all the same. But women love that.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Comedies. Yeah. And the comedies were. You know, I watched the comedy in the restaurant. It was actually. I was, like, kind of crap. It was like pure slapstick. It was kind of cracking me up.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah. Usually, like, Aki and Papa is like, oh, all right. Never mind.

[Ben Avery]

Yeah.

[Matt McCusker]

I thought you were, like, gonna type it in and think you're, like, speak English. But no. Nigerian scammers. Best. Best. Best scammers is a dude that, like, scammed like. Like, he sold an airport to somebody. I swear to God.

[Ben Avery]

That rules.

[Matt McCusker]

He sold an airport to somebody.

[Ben Avery]

I don't.

[Matt McCusker]

I don't remember the full story.

[Ben Avery]

It's basically a really big parking lot.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah. He sold the airport. That didn't exist.

[Ben Avery]

That's awesome.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

To who?

[Matt McCusker]

And I feel like it was like a government or something or some, like. Just some foreigner. But he sold an airport. Nigerian dude. And then obviously, Hush Puppy is, like, one of the most notorious.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

What was Hush Puppies here in Scammers.

[Matt McCusker]

He. He was just. He. He's in jail right now, I think, for, like, 11 years. But he. He was just stealing money. I don't even remember how. For real?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Really?

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah. But a couple hundred million. Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I like the. I like the romance.

[Matt McCusker]

He was trying to make a documentary about it.

[Ben Avery]

Hush Puppy sounds Like a hiccup rapper. Like, he'd be featured on a Jelly Roll album. Jelly Roll featuring Hiccup Hiccup. You know what Hiccup Hiccup is like. It's red dirt. We're from the red dirt road.

[Matt McCusker]

Okay.

[Ben Avery]

Like, that realistic. And they're wave Confederate flags.

[Matt McCusker]

My bad. Real estate mogul.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Nice puppy was a real estate mogul.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, that's a great 124 million from an English Premier league club. Oh.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

True. I mean, that's top. Go big or go home, man. Yeah, you can around the fake daycare, or you can just go big. Get 124 million from an English.

[Matt McCusker]

And I think they only got them for, like, 11 years or something. That's not bad.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

It's not bad.

[Ben Avery]

Not bad.

[Matt McCusker]

Not bad.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, I feel like if you steal 100 million bucks, you can hide for sure. Probably 50 million, and then give the rest up and, like. Ah, dude, I don't spend it all.

[Matt McCusker]

Sorry you guys didn't bring up the prince. What prince?

[Ben Avery]

The email scams, dude.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

So apparently. So I looked into the. A long time ago. Those. Like, that was like the. Yeah, the. Apparently. Well, apparently, that wasn't even. Some of those weren't even from Africa. Some of those are just like a dude from Ohio feigning the Nigerian prince, which is like 40 chess. For sure.

[Matt McCusker]

See, that's the. That's the. That's the scam right now. Because everybody still think that's the scam that Nigerians is doing. We left y' all in the 90s thinking that, and now we doing new stuff. Keep thinking it. Keep the stereotype alive. Yeah, it's a Nigerian prince. We are white women now.

[Ben Avery]

The new shit is scamming the elderly.

[Matt McCusker]

That's the new.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oh, that's. That's meat potatoes, dude.

[Ben Avery]

Just catfishing. You're.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You.

[Ben Avery]

You ever. Some people go home for Thanksgiving to see their grandma, and they go, I'm dating Matt Rife.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

Like, oh, God. I'm dating Vladimir Putin, and I send him apple gift cards every Tuesday, and we're married and. Oh, God.

[Matt McCusker]

Side.

[Ben Avery]

And if you track it, it always goes to Kuwait. They're killing the game right now.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Really killing it.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

Yeah. There's a great catfishing YouTube channel, and they always track these people down.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I like a classic Indian robocall.

[Ben Avery]

Yes.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Just 40 dudes sweating in a call center, just banging the phone. Yeah, that's what I like.

[Ben Avery]

In a warehouse that's flooded. I like when they're playing video games and the water's, like, up to Here. Have you seen that? No. Where they're all playing. They're all playing like video poker and they have to swim to the next machine.

[Matt McCusker]

Is that real?

[Ben Avery]

It could be.

[Matt McCusker]

AI.

[Ben Avery]

It doesn't matter. I made it up.

[Matt McCusker]

Maybe.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yo. Sora is good though, dude. You never know.

[Matt McCusker]

Nah, it's getting scary. Yeah, it's getting scary. I don't even want it.

[Ben Avery]

They got.

[Matt McCusker]

They got a. A dude. They got Matt Barnes recently. They got him like, he. Some AI girls scanned him out like 60 grand. No, like something crazy. Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Who's Matt Barnes again?

[Matt McCusker]

He's a former basketball player. Oh, no.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

He fell for that?

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, bro. Sad dog scamming for how much? I feel like it was like 60. Jeez.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I think. I still think the Shannon Sharp thing was like an intricate scam where you get lawyers who hook up with only fans, ladies. And they start just like, go, go, go. Film the sexual encounter. Threaten the tape. This episode is brought to you by Prize Picks. We're in the second week of January and you've probably already given up on your resolutions, but there's good news. Some of the best football games of the season are around the corner. We've got great games on the schedule this weekend, and there's no better place to get a piece of the action than prize picks. With team picks, there's even more to choose from.

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[Kevin Isopropanol]

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[Matt McCusker]

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[Kevin Isopropanol]

There you go.

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[Kevin Isopropanol]

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[Matt McCusker]

Hey.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Hello everyone.

[Matt McCusker]

January 15th, I'm gonna be at Helium Atlanta.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

And then the week after that, Sean's gonna be there.

[Matt McCusker]

Yep. January 22nd through the 24th.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Please come if you can. And come to Optimum Noctis January 20th.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, yeah, and I'm going to read hyenas Fort Worth.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

January 23rd. That's it. Thank you.

[Matt McCusker]

Nobody cares, bro. The only fan is getting. I saw something recently it said it's easier for only fans models in other countries to get a visa to this country than it is for like, like movies. Like they said, the only fans models is eating up the visas.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Really?

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

So I thought they were sex slaves.

[Matt McCusker]

What the hell? They said they could get in with the. If they make a certain amount of money.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.

[Matt McCusker]

The visas that they like, reserved for like Arnold Schwarzenegger type people. Yeah, they're giving it.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That makes sense. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, dude, I looked it up one time because I wanted to see like, you know, how much only fans actually makes. Like, versus Patreon. Like Patreon. I think all the Patreons globally put everyone's Patreon money together. And I think it's like. I don't even know. I think it Maybe is like $80 million if that.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Do you know how much only fans.

[Ben Avery]

Is Collectively, that's like one tenth of what Sophie Rain makes a month.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Dude, it's like $13 billion a year. Only fans is 13 billion.

[Ben Avery]

I think porn and gaming, like in gambling are the big three. And comedy is like way under here.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I know.

[Ben Avery]

When it comes to. We should all start each other on the show at least and playing poker.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Just. Hey, we'll AI it. What is AI? We'll wear mocap suits. We're not actually, but it just looks like we are we're just like. We're just, like, dry humming. What? It's real. Oh. Oh, no, no. Dude, there's a typhoon. What are they gonna do? That's true gaming. The typhoon's actually kind of legendary.

[Ben Avery]

That shows you how addictive gambling is, right?

[Matt McCusker]

Hold on. I almost won a snake on you.

[Ben Avery]

It's like anaconda. There's gators and.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Dude, that's up. Where was that again?

[Matt McCusker]

They said Philippines.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That was the Philippines.

[Ben Avery]

So that was a cafe.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

It was an Internet cafe.

[Ben Avery]

Okay.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That's how you know. Yeah, that's how you know the country's not doing well when they're like, yo, we. We have the Internet here.

[Ben Avery]

Okay? So that's gaming. I do get that, dude, being 12 years old and playing Xbox Live. Yeah, dude, the house could be on fire.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You could have flooded my cousin's basement. We weren't going anywhere.

[Ben Avery]

Not going anywhere. Dude. I'm playing, actually.

[Matt McCusker]

If I just got to a level I even got to before. Come on now.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Your game's not saved. I mean, that would be chill, too. You never even think of it. Magic. Just, like, chilling in water and gaming.

[Ben Avery]

If you rage, quit, though, you electrocute yourself. If you slam the controller down, it kills everybody.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Damn. That's fucking crazy. I remember when I would go to the beach when I was little. The beach would flood all the time. So we. Me and my cousins are on the streets and, like, swim in, like, the street flood water.

[Ben Avery]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I just realized not too long ago, sewage. It was all sewage.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Ben Avery]

Nasty poop and pee.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Pooping pee. I was just sitting there, dunking my head fully under. My mom would be like, don't go in there. And I'm like, like, whatever. And I'd be under. It's like, fully under, full breaststroke and pooping like, mommy, look at me.

[Matt McCusker]

Some piece of. On your head.

[Ben Avery]

Huge shirt.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I was like. When I first. When I had my first kid, we were in Philly, and we're at this playground, and, like, there was a. Like a sprinkler kind of thing, but that had kept going, and it, like, it flooded one of the little drains, like the storm drains. And then that water was kicking up from the sewage and created this other little pond. So I don't. Like, kids would go to play in there. They'd be with another kid, and that kid would jump in, like, the shit water. And I'd be like, hold up. You can't play in there. They're playing in there. And I was like, they have bad lives, dude. You don't like, they don't have the parents here, dude. They're gonna swim in the shit water, and you're gonna stay out of that. And, you know, this is where your guys's friendship ends, so. Sorry. I was drunk on a couch. Unfortunately, I'm here, so no shit water for you.

[Matt McCusker]

Would you let them do the trampoline on the mattress that's been outside for, like. Like, six months Clean? Hell, no.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

No way. Like. Oh, it's just sitting outside. If I saw a mattress, first of all, if there's a mattress outside my house, I would call the city, make. Remove this right now. I'm not having that. I bet. Guys, this is a. This is infested. Take this out immediately. No, I'm. I'm a. Yeah. I don't know. I. I try to. Even in Philly, Like, I remember, like, if someone would be, like, nodded out on our street corner, I wouldn't be mean to them, but I'd go up and be like, bro, you got me.

[Matt McCusker]

But you used to do it, though.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oh, yeah, I would have done. I used to walk along the side of the highway when I was a kid.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

So, yeah, I used to, like, throw golf balls at cars and, like, run away. Yeah, I was really bad.

[Matt McCusker]

But.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

But no, my kids live, like, a completely. I mean, I'm letting them kind of roam a little bit now, but no, they're. They're, like, completely sheltered.

[Matt McCusker]

You got a. A girl and two girls. Two girls. Oh, all right.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Never mind exactly that.

[Matt McCusker]

You had a boy?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

No.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Be totally different. I. I got hit in the nuts recently. I was like. I think my. My daughter was trying to, like, wash a baby or, like, little doll out in the sink, but it was bedtime, so my. Come on, it's bedtime. No, no. So I went to grab her, and she did that where she gripped the edge of the sink, so I had to, like, like, come on. I pulled her off. As I pull her off, she just three years old. She just swung back and kicked me in the nuts. And I had her like this because I have to hold her away from me so she doesn't hit me. Held her up, and I, like, it went through my head to just do full, like, onto the bed. If it were. If she were a son, I would have spiked my son onto the bed. But I just gently loaded her, like, oh, you little. I'll be back. I was about to bounce her off the mattress. Dude, I just got hit. It's like a reaction. You hit the nuts. You're like, you. But I was like, gently laid her down. I was like, I'll be back.

[Ben Avery]

The smashing machine.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I would have choke slammed a three year old boy right through that. Yeah. Instantly I for real had to stop myself. I was like. And I knew it was coming, but I tried to move and she's like grown, so she was like, wow. Back.

[Matt McCusker]

Even if you did that, somebody would be like, we understand.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oh, dude. Yeah. No, man, that was. That was close. I almost. I mean, it was a bed. She would have gotten like, she would have rattled her for sure. But for sure if I'd spiked her, actually she could have broke her arm, but I didn't.

[Matt McCusker]

So what's your parenting style? Are you. Are you. Are you copying what your parents have done to you? Are you spreading the tr. The generational traumas that you experienced as a child?

[Ben Avery]

I hope not. I mean, you like to think you're not your parents, but. But then, you know, every now and then you go, I'm the exact same guy.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

Like, I'm my dad, you know? But you like to. You like to think you're completely different. Right. And they might have thought they were different, but I don't know. I feel like I was generally just ignored. No one paid attention to me. And I would just wander around in the woods.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Really? Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

And like find like knives and stuff. No, I. I would just get lost all day.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I don't. My brother told me this. I don't remember it at all, but like, I. My, like, bedtime. They would put me in a room and just. Just latch a thing on the outside and be like, bro, see you in the morning.

[Matt McCusker]

Damn.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

So they would just lock. They would lock because I knew they did it to my sister. And I was always like, that's so up. They did that to Kathleen. My brother was like, dude, they did it to you too. And I was like, oh, wow. They would just go full like, you're done for your. Goodbye for the day.

[Ben Avery]

Darkness.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I was just a creature, dude. I was in a roof and you're.

[Ben Avery]

In a Somalian daycare and the windows are boarded up and the lights are off.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Where the. Was that kid? I needed him to be like, where the. Are the kids in here? Let me see this child.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, that's. That was her. My mom too. She'd be like. Like, if she. Like my, like my older brothers and like my cousins there, they weren't taking a nap. She would just trap them under her legs and just until they fell asleep and then be like, all right, good. With the quads on Them.

[Matt McCusker]

That's crazy.

[Ben Avery]

The thing.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

So, yeah, I do way different stuff.

[Ben Avery]

I didn't. So I didn't have any fun growing up. Like, my. My parents were no fun. There was no fun. Everybody was miserable. We were all strangers in the house.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

So I'm just trying to make it where. If I can teach them to have fun.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

Then that's a skill that they can take throughout the rest of their life and attract goodness and great things and good people.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That's the plan.

[Ben Avery]

That feels like the ultimate. If you can have fun in any situation.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

True.

[Ben Avery]

Then you're unstoppable. Right. So that's what I'm trying to do.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That's true.

[Ben Avery]

So we, like, you know, we fucking drive around really fast in the car, listen to really loud music, dance a lot. We do coke. She's drinking and driving. 3.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That is. That is the one thing. Once you have kids, and it really dawns on you, like, dude, I'm in charge of your mental well being. Like, I'm pulling from a poisoned well.

[Ben Avery]

I know, man.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I'm just dipping this bucket into your brain. You're like, God, help me, please.

[Ben Avery]

You feel like your parents are like a lighthouse for, like, you go, that's good that that's there, because I can avoid that. No Rocky short.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

My parents did, I think a lot of things. Really good. They were just like. Like, you know, now we have, like, the Internet. We have, like, a thing, like, when you yell at your child for seven seconds, they make neural path. Like, there's none of that. They were just, like, whoop their ass.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

We would all go out to dinner as a family, and every by. Like, towards the end of it, it would just be me, my brothers in the car by ourselves just like, chilling until everyone ate. Because you. If you acted up, you had to sit in the car. You just sit in a Suburban by yourself. Just like, damn this dude. I didn't get this.

[Ben Avery]

That's so funny.

[Matt McCusker]

They took y' all out to eat.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, we would go to this place. True. Like I said, there was good stuff.

[Ben Avery]

It's so funny that your punishment is. Son, go sit in a hot car.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

It was nothing.

[Ben Avery]

Go. Go do what Casey Anthony does to her children.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I. Dude, I never even thought a kid could die from a hot car.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

That's like, who's to say if they can?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

These new kids.

[Ben Avery]

These are weak kids.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Maybe these are those peanut allergy kids.

[Ben Avery]

I do dry saunas every day. I'm fine. 20, 25 minutes. I'm fine at the 25.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

If anything? The baby just activated his heat shock protein. So.

[Ben Avery]

Telomeres.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That is so sad, dude. Just to forget. Cuz it's like, I get it. Like you're just like a. I even think about it and you come out and it's like, damn, kid's dead.

[Ben Avery]

Nowadays the car will.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

CAR BEEPS the.

[Ben Avery]

Or the car will lock you inside of it and catch on fire. What is that? Have you see this with the cyber trucks.

[Matt McCusker]

They, they.

[Ben Avery]

So the cyber truck has a mode where it turns. It turns into a microwave and then it locks and then everybody dies.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oh, so in case, like. So you don't have to go through all the trouble of hooking like an exhaust thing to your car.

[Ben Avery]

Yeah, I guess. Maybe if you have a cold hot pocket flame. My family grok is like, do you have a cold hot pocket there, amigo? Let me heat it up for you. But they will lock and then you can't get out and everybody dies. It keeps happening in the news. Nah, I like the cybertruck though.

[Matt McCusker]

It's good.

[Ben Avery]

It looks like Halo. I'm a big fan.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Look that up. Is that true that people are like.

[Matt McCusker]

A piece of shit?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

There's no way you can get locked in your car unless you're polishing. That's the old joke you're about. The Polish guy got locked in his car.

[Matt McCusker]

What's the joke?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Polish people are dumb. They couldn't. Yeah, a little white on white racism.

[Matt McCusker]

I don't know any Polish people.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, it was a pretty. I don't think I knew.

[Ben Avery]

It was like the first meme kind of is like Polack jokes, but it didn't really. Didn't really last.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Well, how do you plan on doing your kids? You don't have kids.

[Matt McCusker]

I don't have.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

How do you plan on doing your. Raising them up?

[Matt McCusker]

Keeping them away from my parents? No, I don't know. I haven't given them much thought, man. I just. I just definitely don't want to repeat some of this stuff. Yeah, yeah. That was taught to me like my, my parents. My parents are definitely better now, right?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

They chill out majorly.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, they chill out. But then like, you don't know if you've kind of adopted the things that your parents taught you, like unintentionally taught you or downloaded the. That they've been doing their behavior until you're like under duress.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah.

[Matt McCusker]

You know when you stressed out and then all of a sudden like you say you want to spike the baby.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah. Real bad. She's three, she's fine. Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

There Was two cases.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Huh? There's two cases.

[Ben Avery]

One was in California, one in Texas where they got in an accident and.

[Matt McCusker]

Then the power went out in the.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Cybertruck and they couldn't get out. Oh, big microwave.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, fuck.

[Ben Avery]

Dude.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

In cars get really hot too. And like they're. I mean obviously anything on fire gets super hot. But like you're trapped. But when you're trapped inside that small of a container on fire, it's like.

[Matt McCusker]

Would you rather burn or drown?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Drown, dude, 100%.

[Ben Avery]

Yeah. Ted Kennedy style.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, for sure. Right around and burn alive, dude. Drown. You just pass out. It's like. You ever go underwater for like a little too long and you're like lightheaded?

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

It's almost romantic.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Just get more and more lightheaded. Chill. Burning alive is literally the worst of the worst.

[Matt McCusker]

But what if you like sleep burning. I'm playing.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You gotta wake up. Little slow cooker, low and slow for about 20 hours sleep.

[Matt McCusker]

It ain't really no, dude.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Burning alive is like, I think the worst. I'd rather have probably my dick chopped off than burn alive.

[Matt McCusker]

Damn.

[Ben Avery]

Have you ever.

[Matt McCusker]

But dude, I'm sorry to cut you off.

[Ben Avery]

No, go ahead.

[Matt McCusker]

But dude, in Asia or the monks that be doing. They look pretty calm.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Self immolation.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

But they study the art of chill. That's like, that's. Most people are not prepared.

[Matt McCusker]

You won't fire. You will scream a little bit.

[Ben Avery]

It's so funny to be on fire and be like, I don't even care.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I don't care, dude. Anything to me, not even real. Well, they build me. They build like temples where those guys burn themselves. Because it's just like the supreme act of like, I don't know, Buddhist chill.

[Ben Avery]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

It's like you can like, oh, you know, I haven't fucking, you know, I haven't jerked off in 40 years. People like watch this shit. Just fucking light yourself on fire. I do this because it is the ultimate. Usually they do it to like draw attention to something.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah. So it's a protest. Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

They don't, you know, we have guns over there.

[Matt McCusker]

They caught a monk recently that was like. I think it was like only fans. No, it was a girl that was going up into the temple, cleaning it out. And I think dude was like. I think he was smashing. And then she tried to extort him. I was like, damn, that's crazy.

[Ben Avery]

There's a plot of a Nigerian film. I think this is a Nollywood movie. You may have question on YouTube.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Damn. She tried to just like, trick them.

[Matt McCusker]

She tried to extort him and get bread out of him. I think. I think it might have been a few of them that she was like, going up there and that's a bad plan.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

They're monks.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

They're like begging alms.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

To hit the arm circuit hard. Like, damn, I got a fucking baby mama.

[Matt McCusker]

But she probably knew they had. She probably knew.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

True. They probably have some money.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Was this. Where was this?

[Matt McCusker]

Wherever the monks be. I don't know.

[Ben Avery]

They're everywhere, man.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Dude, my. My brother. It was. My brother was just talking to his friend who had come from, like, Thailand or whatever, and she was telling him that, like, the. Like the. The tourism. So, like, if you have like a. Like a kind like a gay kid, you are from this. It's like a. A giant, like, victory because what the up.

[Ben Avery]

He just called my kid gay.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Hold on, listen to this. So if you're in Thailand, maybe.

[Ben Avery]

Should I be offended?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I don't know.

[Ben Avery]

Thank you so much.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Here's the thing. If you're in Thailand, you have like a recognizably gay kid. You turn the kid into a girl asap. And your whole family's like, here we go. Because then it's like part of that, like, sex tourism thing where what you do is you get a. Even if you just have, like, a daughter too, you can do the same thing where you're like, oh, man. She pretends she doesn't have, like, a husband. She can be married, whole family or everything, kids. But then she'll go to work as, like, a prostitute. Get like, an English businessman and be like, yeah, like, I'm single. Bring the English businessman back to, like, her family and her husband will, like, even be there pretending to be like her brother. And they just. Basically, you get like. Even if you don't get knocked up, they just. These dudes send a letter back to England to, like, wherever they work. Being like, yo, I'm pregnant now. And if you don't want, like, the Thailand courts coming after you for child support and, like, blowing up your spot, because a lot of these guys are married. Give me like 10 GS a month.

[Matt McCusker]

Month.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

And that's like, apparently, like a huge thing over there. If you're out there just having sex with hookers, you could get caught up in, like, a lady. Here's the kicker.

[Ben Avery]

They got no ovaries.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

True.

[Matt McCusker]

Who's true?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

But then if you fall in love, that's the thing. And I saw a documentary, Fall in love.

[Ben Avery]

You fall in love.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Dude, there's like, they'll. You bring you back to the village and, like, you just have to start, like, buying for like the whole building the whole village. And it's like a huge thing for a village. If you get like a slamming lady boy, everyone's like, let's go, we're all gonna eat. It's gonna be so nice. We just need one rich British guy. We just need one old British guy. This plate with lady boys. Any. And it could be ladies too.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, okay.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I think. I think lady boys over there just popping off so hard that it's like. And that's an easy one too, where it's like, bro, we're gonna send stuff back.

[Matt McCusker]

The family who's given the prostitute they real address.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

True. I don't know. But here's the thing. You get these old businessmen, they'll be like, I love you, you. And they'll start divulging info. And it's just kind of like, yeah, you're done here. The funny thing is, especially for like, the custody stuff, where it's like, yo, I'm pregnant with your child. Like, the courts are gonna come after you unless you send me hush money. Apparently, if you just ignore, like, the Thailand courts can't do anything to you in London. They can't. Like, there's nothing they can do, so.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, you. You from experience?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

No, I've never been. I've never been to Thailand, actually. When I hear people are in Thailand as like grown adults, I'm kind of.

[Matt McCusker]

Like, yeah, that's the.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

What are you doing over there, dude?

[Ben Avery]

Because we already got their food.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, we got the food here. So we got the food. It's like, what do you.

[Ben Avery]

We have elephants at the zoo.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

We have mopeds.

[Ben Avery]

We got mopeds. That's true.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

We even have lady boys here.

[Ben Avery]

We got it. We have the big four. The big four of the economy of Thailand.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You're going over there. There's another itch you're trying to.

[Ben Avery]

In my opinion else.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I was talking to someone recently who was in Asia and they're like, oh, my friend was supposed to meet me over wherever they were. He got his visa got messed up in Thailand. He's stuck there. And I was like, is that what he told you? Tails hold his time. Like that. I was gonna leave and my visa is all up.

[Ben Avery]

Yeah.

[Matt McCusker]

See all these stereotypes about these countries. A man can't even go to Thailand. The Dominican Republic, doctor.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You can get away with the doctor.

[Matt McCusker]

I think you go to the doctor without people thinking you're doing something.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You can't go by yourself. That's crazy. You gotta get a girlfriend just so you can do the trick. And then you break up with your girlfriend in the doctor and then you go hog wild, go crazy. Yeah.

[Matt McCusker]

Was this.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oh, this is the Thai monks.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

5,600 videos. Damn. That guy's the man.

[Matt McCusker]

Allegedly.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Who is seeking Ms. Golf Woman allegedly behind Thailand monk sex blackmail scandal.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, so she ran a ring. That's what it was.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That's. I heard there's a lot of meth too, in some of. There was like at one point in a lot of those whatchamacallit in the monasteries or whatever. There's a lot. They like, did a drug test and there was like a couple of them where like, everyone was just strung out on meth. They're in there just partying.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah. Kind of sick, I know, but still. Oh, that's what I think ayahuasca is.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You think ayahuasca is kind of a cult?

[Matt McCusker]

I think so.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I think so too, dude. Because you hear all these people like, being like, yeah, I've done it like 75 times. Like, bro, Yeah. I thought it was the most powerful thing in the world. Why do you have to do it 55. I think it's just a giant party, though.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

Doesn't Alan Watts say once you get the message, hang up the phone?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That's what I've heard.

[Ben Avery]

So why do you pick up the phone 75 more times?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I think it's just chill. I think you go down there again, you're like a tech billionaire and you just go down there and party. I think it's just a big party.

[Matt McCusker]

I think so too. And then people started talking about they crying on it and all the type of stuff. I used to want to do it a little bit when I was on, like my little mushroom journey. And then after a while I was just like. Kept listening to stories about it. I was like, what do I want to cry for?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

It is true. Like, yeah. You like flies out of your ass and you throw up, then it's awesome.

[Matt McCusker]

It feels great. And I get what they're saying, but at the same time, I'm like, I think I could get there myself.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah.

[Matt McCusker]

Without all the extras.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah. I don't know, man. It's.

[Ben Avery]

You think it's demons or angels you're talking to on those trips?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I don't know. I've heard about that stuff.

[Matt McCusker]

Probably talking about. You're probably talking both.

[Ben Avery]

I mean, we all contain both, right?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

True. I don't know. I've heard, I have heard of like that you're talking to like extra like, like interdimensional entities. That's a weird thing with the DMT dude, people.

[Matt McCusker]

Witchcraft. True.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

No, I've heard that, that like. Yeah, you're really talking to like entities. If you do dmt, there are like characters that you encounter. Because I distinctly remember I had like the Jester. It was a mean jester who was on like a black and white checkered floor saw clear as day. And then I watched this video about DMT entities. That was one of them. And I was like, whoa, that's up, yo. It was real. Guy was so mean to me. Me so just laughed in my face. Just like teased me the whole time. It's like, you're a loser. Yeah, just bullied me. I went to the Astral realm and just got absolutely kicked around.

[Ben Avery]

He's giving you titty twisters.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

He was just like, you're a dork. And I was like, what the. I thought this was supposed to be.

[Ben Avery]

Chill giving you a swirly and a wedgie. Like literally, dude calling you gay.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

It was, it was literally, it was probably like 15 seconds of just like a jet, like a multi headed jester on a white, black and white checkered floor being like, dude, you're a loser. And I was like, damn, it sucked. Really sucked. Yeah, it's. It wasn't that per se, but if you look up, there's like a. The Jester guy, dude. It, it's.

[Ben Avery]

Yeah, I'm afraid of all that stuff.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah. And honestly too, it's like, I feel like mushrooms are great, you know, you can do mushrooms. I don't really, I don't know. You can do a lot of them. You don't have to go to like the stream. And dude, I swear to God, when people do it a lot, it changes the way their eyes look.

[Matt McCusker]

Look really?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You see someone who does ayahuasca a lot, they get this like, like very relaxed. Start looking like, like almost zombified.

[Ben Avery]

No, like they look like Nick Reiner. Like the Nick Reiner.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I never got a girl. Let me get a good look at that guy. I never got. I've heard about him with his dad.

[Matt McCusker]

They keep posting strange pictures with him. Maybe from the past.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

No. Sort of. But there was, it was in like a black and white floor that wasn't as like lines and colors. It looked just like a dude.

[Matt McCusker]

Almost gotta pull up a picture of Wilson. Vince.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Let me see something.

[Matt McCusker]

Nobody.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

All right, who is it?

[Matt McCusker]

It's a comic.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Will Smith got the Eyes. He did ayahuasca, like, a bazillion times as well.

[Matt McCusker]

I feel like Aaron Rodger got some eyes.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

He's got him to look at the eyes. If you look in the eyes. And there's like. And I've known just people from, like, just in my life who, like, have done it a lot, and it's just like, they get this. I can't explain it, man, but they get this kind of like. I don't know. It could just be me freaking out. Nah.

[Matt McCusker]

I mean, something's.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

There's something. Something happened.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, yeah. I'm. I'm.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

And, dude, every time I do, like, a lot, any, like, big hallucinogenic. I'm always so relieved when it's over that I go, yeah, I'm not. I'm just happy for my normal waking consciousness.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I don't ever want to leave this ever again.

[Matt McCusker]

The. The. The thrill of it kind of like is when you're young, for real, at least for me. And then you start hearing all these stories about, like. Like the Matthew Perry situation and all that stuff, and it's like he was.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Doing, like, oxy stuff.

[Matt McCusker]

He was. Was. I thought he was on kid of me.

[Ben Avery]

He got boiled like a crawdad in that hot tub.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

He got boiled.

[Ben Avery]

They threw him potato. They find potatoes and carrots and. And corn in it.

[Matt McCusker]

Hot tub.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Cooking a bay leaf. Hot tub. Death. Hot tub. Death is kingly, though. I'll give you that. I'd rather. Okay, now it's like drowning to death. Lighting on fire. Dying in a hot tub. I might smash dying. Hot tub.

[Ben Avery]

Especially if you're dressed up like Batman and you die.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

He was not dressed up like Batman.

[Ben Avery]

You dress up like Batman all the time. I mean, they didn't release it, but I like to think he put on a full.

[Matt McCusker]

He's.

[Ben Avery]

He was a fat Batman and he got his hot stuff. He died in a hot tub. He did, yeah, he died.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Maybe he was on ketamine, I think. But I think he had been doing, like, a lot of, like, oxy's pain pills. So maybe he did take ketamine to go in a hot tub. I could see the allure. So you might be right.

[Ben Avery]

Maybe he.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, maybe he hit that and just.

[Ben Avery]

Get a good life, I think. Well, yeah, I think he did get high a lot. Watch Batman get in the hot tub. It's a sick life.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

I don't know. I'm not convinced. You need the last 20 years. Not yet.

[Matt McCusker]

Of life.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

20 years total.

[Ben Avery]

He went off at, what, 55.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah. Oh, no.

[Ben Avery]

That's not bad.

[Matt McCusker]

True. I'm definitely. I'm definitely a strong component of getting out of here quick.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Really?

[Matt McCusker]

Which is why I think I'm gonna live for a long time.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, you think you're not gonna get.

[Matt McCusker]

I don't think I'm gonna be here for a minute because I. I do not want to be.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Really? You want to do a quick one?

[Matt McCusker]

I mean. Nah, I'm just saying, like, you know how life expectancy is.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Got tempting fate with that hoodie. Someone might come around and clock you right in the head. You're asking. That's a suicide hoodie. Dude.

[Matt McCusker]

Dude.

[Ben Avery]

Kevin looks like he's going to live a very long time.

[Matt McCusker]

No, no life expectancy. What is it now? It's like. I mean, my grandma still. I don't even know how old she is.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Dude, it's getting too high. It's super high. You're right.

[Matt McCusker]

I know I'm not going to be this type of old person, but there are those old people that are just like, sitting around waiting to go. Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt McCusker]

Like, they just don't leave a room or don't leave the house. And it's like, I don't want to.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, well, that's. And that's where I think the hallucinogenics come in. Because once you're in that stage, then I think it should be like you have the home care worker, and it's just non stop. Just like, feed me mushrooms. Let me watch Lord of the Rings till I memorize all the lines.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, take. Take my money. I don't care.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Take my money. Yes. My. I'm a fake. I have two fake Internet girlfriends that'll be chill. And we'll VR so it won't be as bad for us. I can be posted up on the Auto Blow.

[Ben Avery]

Going to the machine.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Auto Blow, Oculus, trt.

[Ben Avery]

Just hook yourself up into the code.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

It.

[Ben Avery]

I just want to see the falling rain.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, just be in oculus. I'll be in a nursing home. I'll be, like, seeing my family, like, oh, hey, guys. What are you guys up to? Oh.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, man.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Remember when we went to the mountains?

[Ben Avery]

That would rock. You're still racist, though.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

What do you mean you're still.

[Ben Avery]

Well, when everyone gets really old, they become very racist.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

True.

[Ben Avery]

I've been in old folks homes.

[Matt McCusker]

They are.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

They are wild. Here's the thing.

[Ben Avery]

It's pre civil rights.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oh, they go nasty.

[Matt McCusker]

But.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

But here's the question, though. Here's the question. Now we have. I. I would say Almost for the first time ever, especially for white people, we have elder kind of like liberals, which that wasn't really a thing, I feel like. So did you see the. If you watch the video of that, I keep hearing the guy's name. The young YouTuber who like, like Shirley.

[Matt McCusker]

Hey, stop saying his name. We ain't putting no light on my.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

He already, dude. He. His videos at 10 million, bro.

[Matt McCusker]

I know, but you think, you think.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, but no, there was one. There was one. I think it was at the leering center, I swear to God. Where he went up and there was just an old white lady who was like, eyes there, eyes. Do not enter the building. Like she started like she was like a car alarm farm just going off. Like, do not and let these men in the building. Ice is here. So like that lady's gonna be in a nursing home one day and just be like, I think you're as cool as any. You know what I mean? She'll be doing like more of the soft handed stuff, right? Like a Jamaican lady and just be like, I love you so much.

[Ben Avery]

Can I touch your hair?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You're beautiful.

[Ben Avery]

I should be wiping your ass. My, my queen.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That's what's going to be to be old white lady, shadow wife.

[Ben Avery]

She make like, I'm good, baby.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Eat my food. I don't deserve it. Eat it all. So that could be the day. That could be. That could be it.

[Ben Avery]

I think that's going to be it. The future is looking pretty bright, actually.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

True.

[Ben Avery]

It's looking good to me. I don't know.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I think so.

[Ben Avery]

Things could be worse.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oh, for sure.

[Ben Avery]

We hit the lottery being born in America, right?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yep. We just got a fresh. We got. Dude oil. Oil's booming right now.

[Ben Avery]

Yep.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oil is going to be killing. I mean everyone. Look, we're a empire, dude. Like we are an empire.

[Matt McCusker]

At the end of the day, definitely a.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

We got to bust the moves. Russia's busting moves and China's busting moves. It's time America bust a move. It's unfortunate. I wish they didn't have to do this. But we are an aging empire and it's time we but and strike out. Just dude, it was one guy, Venezuela, easy. Now the rest of Latin America. I called this, by the way, years. Not that specifically, but like Latin America, the cartels. Like, dude, I was like years ago, I was like, we're going to hammer down on those cartels. I feel like now you say to.

[Matt McCusker]

Anything they're all one guy in dude's first year. I feel like if this, you know, this plays out the way that they wanted to play out, by his fourth year, he about to be going crazy. Who?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Maduro?

[Matt McCusker]

Trump.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oh, Trump. How many years in are we?

[Matt McCusker]

Two.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Two.

[Matt McCusker]

This is. This is two. Well, you just started, right?

[Ben Avery]

I think he'll be dead by the summer, but.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You think he'll be dead last summer?

[Ben Avery]

Yeah, I think he's gonna drop dead.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Really?

[Ben Avery]

Yeah, like a frog on a lily pad.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

He's just gonna drop. You think he's just gonna.

[Ben Avery]

He's gonna eat his last fly and just fall in the pond.

[Matt McCusker]

Somebody told me he's gonna try to be president of another country. I thought that was crazy.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, he's old. He's. He's getting there. You're starting to see the way. It's like, Biden was so old that you're like, dude, this guy is. And getting around pretty good.

[Ben Avery]

But, yeah, they're really good at creating problems to then act like they're fixing the problem. Like, that's what the bureaucratic state does. So, like, what they're going to keep doing is letting immigrants in on quote, unquote, accident and be like, but you can sign up for ICE and help us get rid of the problem. So they're employing people with a problem. They have to create problems.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, that.

[Ben Avery]

Then they go, we fixed it. It's like, you caused it.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, that's another scam.

[Ben Avery]

And they did just shut. ICE just shot a lady in the face today in. Right before this, like, hour ago. I think it was in his hotel. I think it was like, Minnesota. It might have been Minnesota. Where a lady was just in her car and ICE agent kept pointing a gun at her, and she was. She didn't know what to do. And then the ICE agent reached his huge gut across the grill and fired four times into her face.

[Matt McCusker]

Damn.

[Ben Avery]

And then the car took off like 100 miles an hour into a building. Oh, right before that. And she's a U. S. Citizen, not an illegal immigrant.

[Matt McCusker]

They killed her.

[Ben Avery]

Yes.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

No, the accident. The accident actually killed her. Wait, she dodged that. She drove into a building with the police footage. Did they show the lady reaching at all?

[Ben Avery]

I have not seen the footage. I saw it on the way in here.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, that's when I. And again, I don't know what happened. I'm not proposing to, you know, I know what happened. But that police footage, when they're like. And sometimes it's obviously pretty terrible, but then there's times where it's like, like, I knew someone who was in a car they were a cop and like a 12 year old just went boom, boom, boom, boom. Fired into the car. And they came out of the car and killed the kid.

[Ben Avery]

Damn.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Which is. But it's like, do you ever get a gunshot into your car? Like, you're not like. To be like. You have to like, think clearly and.

[Matt McCusker]

And Right.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

It's like, it's kind of hard to do. Whenever I see the police stuff, I'm like, I don't know, man. Sometimes it is bad when you see it. You're like, damn, that's.

[Ben Avery]

Dude, I think if I was a cop, like, I'm a. I would empty a full clip every day. First side, I'm just emptying mags like on like a bird flies a little too quickly in front of me.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

I'm just firing at it.

[Ben Avery]

I'd be terrified. You know, I'd be killing dogs that are running at me.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, again, I don't know what happened. I'm not trying to say. I got the video.

[Matt McCusker]

Go.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Let me see. Okay.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, fatably shot. Damn. Yeah.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Oh, and it was in Minneapolis. Oh, man. Okay. Oh, hey, hey.

[Matt McCusker]

Oh, wait. We shot over.

[Ben Avery]

Wait, the car takes off once she gets shot because obviously she slumped over.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

The wheel and y. I didn't even see it, though. I was so fast. Well, that just in. I don't know. I don't know.

[Ben Avery]

Sorry.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Hey, let's take some where. We had time wise on this shot.

[Ben Avery]

An hour or two. Can we just cut it out?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

No, no, it's fine. You're fine. We never. We never really.

[Ben Avery]

Can you edit me out of the podcast?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

All right, we got some. Actually, this is from our premium subscribers. We got some questions, a little Q and A action. Here you go.

[Ben Avery]

Oh, shit.

[Matt McCusker]

Really?

[Ben Avery]

This is sick.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

This is the new thing. Whoa. Okay, I'll start. I'll start it off. I got to read. I actually. This kind of pissed me off. It was like, matt, why is your wife so hot? But you just look like a potato? I've never seen someone with their eyes so close together and you suck a guitar and are gay. I hate you. It's from. It's from Nick.

[Ben Avery]

That's nice.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Syracuse. That was just. That's a perk we give to our premium subscribers.

[Ben Avery]

That's very nice.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Yeah, I don't think my eyes are that close together, honestly. But, I mean, what do you want? So that was my question. There you go. Okay then. Yeah.

[Ben Avery]

Hey, first time Patreon subscriber and huge fan graduating from school this year, which Is something I've been really excited to accomplish. At least until my older brother died. He was riding a motorcycle on 95 with his girlfriend on the back. A tractor trailer swerved to avoid a broken down car and the back of it literally smeared them along the divider. There were hardly any remains of their bodies, so we had to cremate all the pieces together and split the ashes evenly. Which is a bummer since my older brother barely liked this girl. It would have been beautiful if they had been deeply in love or whatever. But they fought all the time. My brother and I can say this now that he's dead, hit her on several occasions.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

This is so good. That's our premium subscribers here. Come on.

[Ben Avery]

Okay, but anyway. Oh, wait, hold on. She cheated on him with her ex boyfriend in the army. But anyway, I guess my question is that with my brother dead, that leaves me as an only child. I've never been an only child and now I'm worried that I might fall into that bratty only child personality just before college and won't be able to make any friends. Do you think I should maybe join a fraternity? Did you write this?

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That's what our premium. That's so funny. That's what our previous.

[Matt McCusker]

Man.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That's a real. That's a real conundrum. I don't know what I would tell them.

[Ben Avery]

I thought I was going too dark on this show and then you hand me this. I'm like, oh, I'm fine.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

This is a perk we give to our premium subscribers. Thank you on Patreon for making this.

[Ben Avery]

A very funny person.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You don't have to answer. That's a very uncomfortable question. Do you have anything? I think there's one more.

[Matt McCusker]

I got a book.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

The producers cherry pick these. Producers been cherry picking these.

[Matt McCusker]

All right, lady dog here. Whoop whoop. Just wanted to say thanks for all the laughs. My boyfriend got me hooked to Yalls podcast. Ass. Anyway, I'll get to the point. I know girls have a bad reputation for circling around what they're trying to say with unnecessary details. So I'll try to spell y' all spare y'. All lol. But I'm in a bit of a pickle. The whole thing started with my boyfriend when me and my boyfriend got drunk and watched porn together. It was his idea. So I let him pick the video since I'm not much of a porn girly. And he started off pretty vanilla, basically like girl scissoring or whatnot. We started hooking up with it on in the background and it Was pretty hot. But then the video was over. It was like two minutes. And I just clicked the next video again. Two girls and continue giving my man a bj. And things got. And things were all good. But then in the video, a short, fat black guy came into the picture. All right, A sure fat black guy came into the picture and had, I'm not lying, the biggest dick I've ever seen. It was like two Coke cans stacked on top of each other. And so anyway, we started having sex, and the video really did something to me. And seeing those women just total. Just being totally filled up with this guy's. Come on, man. All right, all right, all right. I just wanna. I just want to reiterate as I'm reading. This is somebody else's words. This is not Kevin saying this.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

That's fair. That's fair. All right.

[Matt McCusker]

Somebody clipped this up.

[Ben Avery]

All right, Your audio listeners might not know you're reading.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You're gonna have Nick shirt really on here.

[Matt McCusker]

Yeah, I gotta start talking slower, licking my lips.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

It's crazy.

[Matt McCusker]

It's all right, Whatever. So these women are totally being filled up with this guy's massive penis. And my boyfriend kept saying how wet I was, glancing uneasily at the screen. And so I just pulled him into me, telling him to fuck me or whatever, but then. Or what? I don't know if it was desperation or what, but my boyfriend, I guess, trying to go along with, started dirty talking to me, but in, like, a black guy voice or whatever, saying stuff like, you like this big ass black dick, girl. And like, oh, God damn. This slicking in a car wash parking. This pussy slicking in a car wash parking lot. Hurry up and come, girl, so I can get back to doing my podcast.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Stuff like that.

[Matt McCusker]

And honestly, I was kind of mortified. But the video was so good that I actually came. But now my boyfriend thinks he has to talk in, like, a black accent during. And I've even noticed he's been dressing different too. Did I like, like, accidentally turn him black? Which is which. If so, I'm okay with that, but I just don't know how to bring it up because it seems kind of weird. He's Asian. By the way.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Thank you for our premium subscribers. I don't know. I don't have any thoughts. Those questions are both a little too complicated for myself. I didn't know. Yo, you're writing these? No, I swear, that's. The producer selected them. Perks you get. I mean, that's. I wish we. I had more. I can't really tackle. Both are too heavy, you know, for me to comfortably tackle.

[Matt McCusker]

He's Asian, by the way. Funny.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Well, guys, I can't thank you enough. That was. You guys are great.

[Ben Avery]

Thank you, Matt.

[Matt McCusker]

Thank you. Appreciate.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

You guys have anything you want to plug or whatever?

[Ben Avery]

Oh, go ahead, Kevin.

[Matt McCusker]

What am I doing? When does this come out? I don't know.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Probably like tomorrow.

[Matt McCusker]

Okay. I'm in DC over the weekend. DC Improv with Chris Redd and then follow me on Instagram. Kevin Isopropanol. Yeah, that's it.

[Ben Avery]

@ Ben Avery is good on social media. I got a podcast with my brother Jace Avery and Devin Costa called Lemon.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Party. Let's.

[Ben Avery]

Go. Patreon.com lemon party. And I do live streams sometimes. Ben Avery Live. I go live once a week. If you want to sign up on my website, you'll get notified when I go.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Live. Hell yeah. Thank you.

[Ben Avery]

Guys. Thank you.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Matt. Appreciate.

[Ben Avery]

It. Appreciate you.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Buddy.

[Matt McCusker]

Later. Thank you.

[Kevin Isopropanol]

Cool. Watch new episodes of Matt and Shane's Secret podcast on Spotify. Do.