Matt starts out by updating us the latest Trump scandals. Then, Sheldon Hirsch, a practicing nephrologist and former reluctant Trump supporter, joins Matt to discuss his powerful new book "Make America Sane Again: Reflections on Trump's Travesties."

In this candid interview, Hirsch reveals how he went from rooting for Donald Trump in 2016 (while refusing to vote for Hillary Clinton) to becoming a sharp critic who wrote nearly daily letters to the editor — many published in The New York Times and Chicago Tribune.

What started as a hobby became a unique collection of insightful, bite-sized essays that chronicle Trump's actions from the controversial inauguration crowd claims, family separations at the border, the mishandling of COVID-19, to the January 6th events and beyond.

Hirsch explains why the material "wrote itself," how he added historical and cultural perspective to make the letters compelling, and why he sees his work as a civic duty. He also shares personal stories, including his experience as a doctor on the front lines during the pandemic and a memorable analogy involving Maimonides' rules of charity applied to Trump's meeting with Zelensky.

If you're looking for a thoughtful, non-partisan voice from someone who changed his mind based on events — not ideology — this conversation delivers fresh insights you won't hear everywhere.

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