Medical Medium Podcast Episode 087

"Seed Oils: Are They Damaging You?"

Host: Anthony William
Date: February 26, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode, Anthony William, the Medical Medium and originator of the global celery juice movement, tackles the controversial subject of seed oils. Amidst growing concern and confusion about seed oils in health communities, Anthony seeks to clarify which oils are truly harmful, which are less problematic, and why the issue is more nuanced than current health trends suggest. He draws from decades of his unique Spirit of Compassion-sourced insights and offers guidance for those struggling with chronic illness in a landscape of ever-changing health advice.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Hysteria Around Seed Oils

• Trending Panic: Anthony addresses the recent explosion of concern about seed oils across social media, podcasts, and health circles, noting how suddenly “everyone’s freaking out” about the subject.

  • "Everybody's freaking out. Like freaking out. Like it's the biggest thing on the planet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seed oils are responsible for everybody's illness. The sky is falling." [02:03]

• Perspective Check: He emphasizes that while some seed oils are indeed problematic, they are not singlehandedly responsible for all chronic illness.

2. The Worst Offenders: The "Bad Boys" of Seed Oils

• Canola Oil:

  • Identified as the “worst” seed oil due to its inflammatory properties, high likelihood of being genetically modified, and its ability to feed harmful bacteria and pathogens.
  • "First of all, canola oil, that's the worst seed oil there is. And it's a bad one. And it causes a lot of problems." [03:05]
  • Long-term use can scar the digestive tract, feed harmful microbes, and exacerbate autoimmune and gut issues.

• Corn Oil & Soybean Oil:

  • Also flagged as “bad” due to feeding pathogens, viruses, and their common GMO status.
  • "Corn oil, that's a bad one too. Anything. Corn is bad. Corn feeds bugs, viruses in people's systems. It's a trigger." [03:38]

• Consistency: Anthony stresses that his stance has not changed over time, even when these oils were once hailed as health foods.

  • "It's information from above. It kept me straight so that people can find their way and stay on the healing path." [21:55]

3. Why Are These Oils Harmful?

• Feeding Pathogens:

  • The primary concern is how certain oils feed bacteria and viruses in the body, perpetuating inflammation and chronic illness.
  • "Canola oil can create a barrier around strep, E. Coli and many other unproductive bacteria that live in our gut ... that barrier can allow the unproductive bacteria to stay alive and even potentially grow, eventually causing an irritated, inflamed gut lining." [06:00]

• Gut and Immune Disruption:

  • These oils can damage organ linings, stress the pancreas/liver, and weaken the immune system.

4. Seeds Oils that Aren’t So Bad

• Moderate Oils:

  • Sunflower Oil: Called a “healthier seed oil,” preferable to canola, corn, or soy.
    • "Sunflower oil. It's a healthier seed oil. It's way better. Way better than canola oil. Way better than any kind of soy or corn." [24:01]
  • Sesame and Grapeseed Oils: Even healthier in moderation, do not feed pathogens, and are less problematic for those struggling with chronic illness.
    • "Sesame oil? Yeah, sesame oil. That's a great one. It's healthier than anything else. Grapeseed oil is healthier than any of those other ones too." [24:23]

• Caveat: Even these should be limited if you are unwell.

  • "You're not supposed to be just doing oils every day. It's not a great thing ... if you're sick with chronic illness." [29:30]

5. The Trap of Substitution: Are Animal Fats Better? (Spoiler: No)

• Health Trends Flip: Anthony lambasts the new trend of swapping out seed oils for animal fats (like butter, ghee, or even mutton suet), as promoted by certain “experts” and carnivore influencers.

  • "So put butter on everything ... and you get a heart attack. Eventually clogs up the liver, hurts the liver really bad." [32:45]

• None are Good If You’re Sick: Recommends keeping all fats low, regardless of origin, for those healing from chronic illness.

6. The Health Food Industry’s Hidden Pitfalls

• Reading Labels:

  • Many health products (vegan, gluten-free, protein bars, etc.) contain unhealthy oils, natural flavors (hidden MSG), citric acid, and other “death by a thousand cuts” ingredients.
  • "Nothing but shit in all of it. I talked about it for years. So people are waking up and they're reading the back of their chip bag and they're looking out for seed oils, understandably." [27:12]

• Influencer Contradictions:

  • Calls out health influencers for having changed positions without admitting prior mistakes.
  • "They're tricky. They are trendy. They're trying to get the clicks, the likes, seed oils, the next fright. They change their colors every fortnight. Chameleons, lizards, really snakes. They never apologize for their past mistakes." [37:41]

7. The Core Medical Medium Message

• Pathogens and Metals:

  • Emphasizes that real root causes of chronic illness are often pathogens and heavy metals, not just dietary fats or oils.
  • "Keep in mind, we've got to keep our heads focused on why we're sick, the pathogens, the metals. Focus on what to do and focus on what? On all the things to avoid." [36:42]

• Consistency and Compassion:

  • Stresses the importance of consistent, non-contradictory advice and having compassion for those struggling.
  • "If you're sick and struggling, know it's not your fault. If you're on mattress island, keep a light heart the best you can because you're gonna get better and you're gonna move forward." [36:57]

8. Memorable Riff: The Mutton Suet Skit

• A Sarcastic Look at Trends:
  • Anthony humorously mocks the trend of eating rendered animal fats as an alternative to seed oils.
  • "So what am I making? Hey, thanks for coming over. Good to see you. I'm making mutton suet. Yeah, mutton suet. Just boiling a whole bunch of beef right here ... Can you give me the ghee? Because I'm gonna start eating lots of ghee. I thought it was good. I mean, bacon's probably good, too, right? Bacon fat, maybe." [37:05]

Notable Quotes

• On Seed Oil Panic:

  • "It's a sea of confusion out there, and it's really hard. If I was bedridden or if I was struggling and had mystery symptoms...I would read a medical medium book, and I would learn to stay away from canola oil." [27:01]

• On Health Trends:

  • "It's not really just be afraid and scared to death over a seed oil. It's more of I shouldn't be really doing too many seed oils right now because I don't feel well." [34:27]

• On Food Industry Change:

  • "Podcast doctors that have people on now talking about seed oils had seed oil and natural flavorings all in their early supplements that they sold, that they manufactured themselves, meaning their own brands." [28:35]

• On Compassion:

  • "I don't judge anybody. I don't shame anybody. I completely understand. You have to have compassion for people who are struggling and they don't know what to eat or they're eating things that give them comfort. They've been through hell and back." [30:18]

Quick Reference: Healthier vs. Unhealthy Oils

Avoid Entirely (Especially if Chronically Ill)

• Canola oil [06:00]
• Corn oil [06:30]
• Soybean oil [21:20]
• Palm oil [20:55]
• Cottonseed oil

Use Sparingly (If Necessary)

• Sunflower oil [24:01]
• Safflower oil (better, but only in moderation) [06:35]
• Sesame oil [24:23]
• Grapeseed oil [24:25]
• Olive oil and coconut oil (not seed oils, but still consume minimally)

Key Takeaways

• Seed oils are not all created equal; some are far more damaging than others, particularly for those with chronic illness.
• Canola, corn, and soy oils are to be avoided as they feed pathogens and contribute to chronic illness.
• Healthier oils like sunflower, sesame, and grapeseed are less problematic, but all overt fats should be minimized for healing.
• The current mainstream and social media uproar over seed oils has missed the deeper Medical Medium message: the ultimate problem is not seed oils alone, but the combination of lifestyle factors that feed pathogens and damage the body.
• There’s no virtue in swapping seed oils for large amounts of animal fats—low overall fat intake is key for the chronically ill.
• The food industry, including the health food sector, is filled with ingredients like natural flavors and citric acid that can harm sensitive individuals.
• Healing is about compassion, consistency, and self-care—not fear or confusion over every new dietary trend.

Timestamps: Significant Segments

• [02:03] – Mainstream panic about seed oils and Anthony’s early stance
• [06:00] – Why canola oil is especially damaging
• [21:55] – Consistency of Medical Medium information over years
• [24:01] – Healthier seed oils: sunflower, sesame, grapeseed
• [27:01] – Real danger: processed foods disguised as health products
• [32:45] – Problems with substituting seed oils for butter, ghee, animal fats
• [36:42] – Focusing on pathogens and metals as root causes
• [37:05] – Satirical “mutton suet” skit poking fun at diet trends
• [37:41] – Mocking influencer hypocrisy and trend-chasing
• [36:57] – Compassion and hope for those suffering
• [38:03] – Closing: The origin and integrity of Medical Medium information

Final Message

Anthony William urges listeners not to fall victim to ever-changing and sometimes fad-driven health trends promoted by influencers and “podcast doctors.” By focusing on minimizing harmful seed oils, understanding the role of pathogens, and approaching one’s own health with compassion and consistency, real healing becomes attainable. Above all, Anthony insists: “Know that I care. You're a good person. You're sick, and if you're struggling, know it's not your fault. ... You're gonna get better and you're gonna move forward. And don't forget that.” [36:57]