Medical Medium Podcast – Ep. 122

The White Horse & The Beast: The Book Of Revelation
Host: Anthony William
Date: December 12, 2025

Episode Overview

This eye-opening episode delves into one of the most dramatic and perplexing sections of the Book of Revelation—specifically, chapter 19, verses 11–21. Anthony William, the Medical Medium, offers a unique, alternative interpretation of these verses, emphasizing their implications for understanding real-world suffering and the metaphysical battle between good and evil. Rather than accepting traditional theological interpretations, Anthony threads together biblical prophecy, modern technology, warfare, and the potential involvement of extraterrestrial intelligences to deliver a message about hope, true compassion, and the importance of healing—both physically and spiritually.

Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Modern Struggles with Health and Suffering

• (00:01) Anthony opens by highlighting how chronic illness and unexplained symptoms have become a universal human struggle.
  • Quote:

    "You're far from alone. Living with symptoms has become the new normal. So no more guessing games. It's time to get answers."

2. Setting the Stage—Revelation 19 and the White Horse

• (01:30–04:00) Anthony walks listeners through Revelation 19:11, situating it right after the catastrophic fall of Babylon—interpreted here as a metaphor for global destruction, possibly via nuclear war or alien intervention.
• He raises the central question: What, or who, is the White Horse and its rider?

3. Literal vs. Allegorical Interpretation

• (04:30–09:00) Anthony questions the traditional readings of the "White Horse" and its rider as Christ.
  • He notes the rider is described as "Faithful and True," with a name "no man knew," and called "the Word of God," but never explicitly named Jesus Christ.
• He observes that the armies following the rider are simply called "armies," not angels or saints, suggesting they could be something entirely else.

4. Technological and Extraterrestrial Parallels

• (09:15–13:00) Anthony suggests the apocalyptic vision possibly references advanced technology—giant rocks (missiles), war machines (nuclear weaponry, ships), and AI.
  • The possibility of alien involvement is brought in:

    "Another source of how a planet can basically dissolve within one hour is alien warfare... Ending Times has the alien races involved." (04:40)

• Modern machinery, weaponized craft, and even potential white crafts or ships might have been interpreted by John the Prophet as "white horses."

5. Dissection of Revelation Verses—A Re-reading

• (13:00–27:00)
  • Key Verses:
    • 19:11: The White Horse appears, rider called "Faithful and True."
    • 19:12: Description—"eyes as a flame of fire," "many crowns," a hidden name.
    • 19:13: Clothed in blood, named "the Word of God."
    • 19:14: Armies in heaven follow on white horses.
  • Anthony emphasizes missing details and ambiguous language:

    "John the Prophet never says it's Jesus Christ on the white horse." (13:20)

  • He challenges the typical interpretation of the sword "proceeding from the mouth":

    "The sword...is really an object, a weapon...needed to battle something or someone still alive after all the horrendous destruction." (17:45)

6. Compassion, Angels, and the Birds

• (28:00–32:00)
  • Anthony points out the role of "real angels," contrasting them with ambiguous or alien entities:

    "Every time a real angel is brought up in the Book of Revelation...compassion is shown. The angel cries and the angel warns and the angel is worrisome and concerned." (35:11)

  • The scene where an angel calls birds to feed on the fallen is reframed as an act of compassion for the surviving creatures.

7. The Final Battle in the Sky

• (32:00–36:00)
  • The war is cast as a literal sky battle between the armies of the White Horse and the beast—a "great war machine" or "spaceship."
  • The beast and the false prophet are "cast alive into a lake of fire," identified as ground zero of a nuclear weapon.

8. The Mystery of Missing Verses & Open Questions

• (36:00–38:00)
  • Anthony suggests crucial parts of the Revelation narrative have been omitted, especially regarding the identity and details of the White Horse’s rider and their armies.

    "If it was Jesus that was on that horse, then there are missing verses that were purposely kept out of the Book of Revelation." (32:40)

  • He hypothesizes the "white horses" might be advanced crafts piloted by beings sent by God, possibly from elsewhere in the universe.

9. Hope and the Role of Angels Now

• (38:00–41:00)
  • Anthony widens the view, asserting Earth’s fate is not sealed; angels and compassion can still change the course:

    "What's in the book of Revelation does not have to come because the light can shatter the darkness. There is a way forward and ending times can be held off." (36:20)

• He reassures listeners that angels are present everywhere, working to heal and support those who suffer.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On traditional suffering:

  "People coexist with their ailments, accepting them and never questioning why science and research hasn’t offered answers..." (00:35)

• On the ambiguous identity of the White Horse’s rider:

  "John the Prophet never says it’s Jesus Christ on the white horse. He saw King of Kings and Lord of Lords, and he saw faithful and true." (13:20)

• On the interpretation of 'the sword':

  "Most likely at this point, it’s not words being used as a sword, far from it." (17:53)

• Redefining Army in Revelation:

  "He’s not saying armies of saints, armies of angels... Instead, just armies." (08:33)

• Alien and Tech references:

  "What if they weren’t on horses? What if they were on something else or in something else?" (10:55)

• On true compassion:

  "This is a compassionate angel, that respects the living and respects living creatures." (29:53)

• On missing verses and hidden knowledge:

  "All of that mystery resides in missing verses that were kept out of the Bible, kept out of the Book of Revelation." (34:45)

• Closing hope:

  "So much can change between now and the future." (41:00)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:01–03:10 – Introduction, health struggles, prophetic context
• 03:10–08:00 – Revelation 19 setup; symbolism of global destruction
• 08:00–13:20 – The White Horse: analysis of its rider and ambiguity around identity
• 13:20–18:00 – Reviewing verses; meaning of the sword, missing nations, armies
• 18:00–21:00 – The angel’s role; compassion in devastation
• 21:00–27:30 – Final battle depicted as warfare in the sky, spaceships vs. armies
• 27:30–34:00 – The fate of the beast and the false prophet; “lake of fire” symbolism
• 34:00–37:00 – Questioning the completeness of Revelation; missing verses
• 37:00–41:00 – Reaffirming compassion, angels, and the power of healing

Conclusion & Call to Hope

Anthony William closes by urging listeners not to lose heart—pointing out that the real message is one of the possibility of healing, cosmic and earthly compassion, and the capacity for renewal, regardless of what apocalyptic visions might threaten. He reaffirms the presence of a supernatural support network (angels, God, the Spirit of Compassion) for those who are struggling.

"Your body wants to heal... Your body loves you unconditionally and you can heal." (38:55)

He ends with a gentle reminder that despite dystopian prophecies or catastrophic visions, change is possible, and help is available, both through divine means and through the practical insights he shares in his books and communities.

Tone and Language

Anthony maintains an urgent but compassionate tone throughout, blending mystical interpretation with practical hope. His language is accessible yet provocative, meant to invite listeners into active questioning of widely-held beliefs, with a consistent undercurrent of empathy for the suffering and emphasis on healing.

For first-time listeners:
This episode offers a deep reinterpretation of a classic biblical text, casting new light on its symbolism and relevance to our modern era—illness, conflict, and the need for true spiritual and physical healing.