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Move over, Meet the Press—it’s time to MEET THE MESS!

This week on the podcast, Jen and Karyn survey the ongoing destruction of America and ask the obvious question: where is Oprah, exactly? Meanwhile, The New York Times is busy calling Taylor Swift “cringe,” which feels like a wild editorial choice given that the world is, in fact, on fire.

Also in the news: Trump flips off a Ford employee and turns him into a millionaire, The Pitt makes its return to television, Joe Rogan criticizes ICE (yes, we absolutely said this would happen), and the FBI raids the home of a Washington Post journalist.

And finally, Jen and Karyn admit they’re into porn. Competency porn, to be specific. If you don’t know what that is, you’re probably already into it too.

On Meet the Mess, bestselling authors Jen Lancaster & Karyn Bosnak dive into the messiest news stories and hottest topics of the week to give a fresh and entertaining take on current events and life in general. An extended video version with the “Hot Mess of the Week” is available to paid Substack subscribers. Visit meetthemess.substack.com for more.

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From Trump to Taylor Swift: Chaos, Media Meltdowns, and Competency Porn! Plus, Oprah Winfrey, Noah Wyle, Mark Ruffalo, and More!