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Messy Liberation: Feminist Conversations about Politics and Pop Culture
Hosted by Becky Mollenkamp and Taina Brown · EN
Join feminist coaches Taina Brown and Becky Mollenkamp for casual (and often deep) conversations about business, current events, politics, pop culture, and more. We’re not perfect activists or allies! These are our real-time, messy feminist perspectives on the world around us.
This podcast is for you if you find yourself asking questions like:
• Why is feminism important today?
• What is intersectional feminism?
• Can capitalism be ethical?
• What does liberation mean?
• Equity vs. equality — what's the difference and why does it matter?
• What does a Trump victory mean for my life?
• What is mutual aid?
• How do we engage in collective action?
• Can I find safety in community?
• What's a feminist approach to ... ?
• What's the feminist perspective on ...?
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Performative Activism, Billionaire Art Shows, and the Myth of Meritocracy
3d ago00:38:50Tap to summarizeGet "Liberate Your Business" by Becky Mollenkamp https://liberateyourbusiness.com/In this episode of Messy Liberation, hosts Becky Mollenkamp and Taina Brown dive into the tone-deaf spectacle of the Met Gala, unpacking what celebrity wealth displays reveal about economic inequality and performative activism. They also explore the myth of meritocracy in higher education, the emotional labor of parenting during high-stakes testing, and how to find joy and rest when everything feels heavy.In This Episode, We Get Into:Why the Met Gala feels like a "let them eat cake" moment during skyrocketing inflation and wealth inequalityThe difference between art as subversion and art as "sucking the dick of power"Performative activism vs. real protest (looking at you, Sarah Paulson's dollar bill accessory)How billionaires like Jeff Bezos hosting the Met Gala undercuts any claim of artistic rebellionThe myth that going to Harvard (or other elite schools) is the secret to wealthHow legacy admissions and cronyism maintain class hierarchies in higher educationSupporting kids through stressful standardized testing without reinforcing toxic achievement cultureProcessing grief, finding dopamine hits in gamified productivity, and giving yourself permission to restThe slow, steady growth of creative projects you do just because you love themWhy we keep showing up for these conversations (and thank you for listening)🎤 JOIN US IN THE FEMINIST PODCASTERS COLLECTIVE: http://feministpodcastcollective.com/
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Finding Agency When the World Is on Fire
1w ago00:48:10Tap to summarizeGet "Liberate Your Business" by Becky Mollenkamp https://liberateyourbusiness.com/In this episode of Messy Liberation, hosts Becky Mollenkamp and Taina Brown dig into Trump's latest authoritarian moves — from putting his face on passports to plastering government buildings with his image. They explore the privilege of leaving the country when things get dark, the importance of staying present when the world feels like it's on fire, and small acts of resistance that help us reclaim agency in impossible times.In This Episode, We Get Into:Trump's plan to put his photo in U.S. passports (and why that's some dictator-level nonsense)The tan suit vs. sitting in your own shit: a study in Republican hypocrisyWhy "just leave the country" is peak privilege and not as easy as people thinkThe emotional toll of coming home from vacation to this dumpster fireHow post-vacation blues hit different when your country is falling apartBecky's "Bring the Magic" challenge: finding agency through small acts of kindnessWhy being present isn't toxic positivity — it's survivalTaina's spring gardening as embodied resistanceFinding ways to control your cortisol when the world is literally on fireChoosing not to have a heart attack while everything burns around you🎤 JOIN US IN THE FEMINIST PODCASTERS COLLECTIVE: http://feministpodcastcollective.com/
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Why Mental Health Days Are Resistance (Not Self-Indulgence)
2w ago00:46:51Tap to summarizeGet "Liberate Your Business" by Becky Mollenkamp https://liberateyourbusiness.com/In this episode of Messy Liberation, hosts Becky Mollenkamp and Taina Brown dive into why mental health days matter more than ever, and why the world won't stop demanding productivity just because you're feeling overwhelmed. They discuss how to recognize when you need rest, navigate guilt around taking time off, challenge capitalist expectations around constant productivity, and build community care into your life even when our culture doesn't make it easy. If you've ever felt like you're supposed to just brush your teeth and go to work while the world is on fire, this conversation is for you.In This Episode, We Get Into:• Why the world feels heavier as we age, and whether things are actually worse now or if we're just more aware• How neuroscience explains why young people make different decisions (spoiler: their frontal lobes aren't fully developed yet)• The real cost of living in a culture that expects "business as usual" no matter what's happening in the world• Why mental health days aren't just about rest; they're about resistance to capitalist productivity culture• The invisible labor of managing a household and why "partnership" doesn't automatically mean equality• How to ask for help even when you feel like you shouldn't have toWhy we've lost the village model of community care, and how to start rebuilding it• Setting boundaries around work, rest, and what you're actually capable of in a given moment• The difference between rest as recovery and rest as a regular practice• Why you need community care whether you're partnered up or notResources Mentioned:• "How We Show Up: Reclaiming Family, Friendship, and Community" by Mia Birdsong: https://amzn.to/41U8M8h• "Liberate Your Business" by Becky Mollenkamp: https://beckymollenkamp.com/book/🎤 JOIN US IN THE FEMINIST PODCASTERS COLLECTIVE: http://feministpodcastcollective.com/
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Wealth, Fame, and White Privilege: Why "Get Rich" Feminism Is Broken
3w ago00:08:31Tap to summarizeGet "Liberate Your Business" by Becky Mollenkamp https://liberateyourbusiness.com/In this episode of Messy Liberation, hosts Becky Mollenkamp and Taina Brown explore wealth, fame, and privilege through an intersectional feminist lens. Fresh off Taina's trip to Paris, the conversation unpacks how capitalism conditions us to believe money solves all problems, why being rich doesn't equal happiness, and how white women need to reckon with the ways whiteness shapes their relationship to money and power—even while experiencing gender-based oppression.In This Episode, We Get Into:Why we're conditioned to believe celebrities and wealthy people have no problems (and why that's bullshit)How anxiety shapes the way we think about money, safety, and accessThe difference between financial security and being rich-rich—and why one matters more than the otherWhat fame actually costs: privacy, safety, constant scrutiny, and never knowing who's around you for the right reasonsWhy having money doesn't erase trauma, PTSD, or the way our brains are wiredHow wealth can buy access to things that lead to happiness—therapy, rest, travel, time with loved ones—without being a cure-allThe isolation and judgment that can come with having more money than the people around youWhy white women need to stop centering their own experiences when talking about wealth and financial liberationHow the "all women need to get wealthy" narrative erases the different lived realities of BIPOC womenWhy it's critical for white women to understand that gender oppression and white privilege can (and do) coexist🎤 JOIN US IN THE FEMINIST PODCASTERS COLLECTIVE
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The Hidden Labor of Traveling While Fat, Queer, and Disabled
Apr 1300:47:15Tap to summarizeGet "Liberate Your Business" by Becky Mollenkamp https://liberateyourbusiness.com/Becky Mollenkamp and Taina Brown get into the often-overlooked politics of travel — from queer safety and fat-body accessibility to the colonial mindset baked into Western travel culture. They explore how identity shapes every aspect of a trip, why travel is both a privilege and a political act, and what it actually looks like to show up in someone else's space with humility, curiosity, and respect.In This Episode, We Get Into:How Taina and her wife navigate travel as queer, fat-bodied, disabled women of color — including the research they do before choosing a destinationThe exhausting labor of traveling with multiple marginalized identities: wheelchair assistance, medications, masking, claustrophobia, seatbelt extenders, and moreWhy Europe — despite its appeal — can be deeply inaccessible for fat and disabled travelers, and why the Americans with Disabilities Act is actually one of the US's most important pieces of legislationThe colonial mindset embedded in how Americans (especially wealthy white Americans) show up abroad — from demanding McDonald's in Peru to being obnoxiously loud in spaces that have different cultural normsHow the cost of air travel continues to widen the gap between the haves and have-nots, and what it means when only the most elite get to see the worldThe difference between curating your travel experience and showing up as an entitled American tourist who expects to be accommodatedBecky's life-changing high school trip to the USSR — and why she believes international travel at a formative age is one of the greatest gifts a young person can receiveTaina's experience at a travel company in LA, and some of the most entitled client behavior she witnessed firsthandWhy "different" is a better word than "weird" — and how Becky is teaching her 10-year-old son to navigate cultural difference with curiosity instead of judgmentHow Hawaiians and other communities are pushing back against tourism — and why some destinations are now off Becky's bucket list entirely🎤 JOIN US IN THE FEMINIST PODCASTERS COLLECTIVE
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White Feminism, Power, and Who Gets Left Behind with White Feminism Author Koa Beck
Apr 600:50:27Tap to summarizeGet "Liberate Your Business" by Becky Mollenkamp https://liberateyourbusiness.com/What is white feminism—really—and how does it continue to shape culture, media, and power?In this episode of Messy Liberation, Becky Mollenkamp and Taina Brown sit down with author and journalist Koa Beck to unpack the origins, impact, and ongoing evolution of white feminism.Koa shares how her experience working in mainstream women’s media exposed the gap between “feminism” as a label and feminism as a practice. Together, they explore how white feminism centers privilege, rewards assimilation, and leaves marginalized communities behind.They also get into:• Why feminism isn’t one thing (and never has been)• The difference between adapting to systems vs. changing them• How young people today are engaging with these ideas in more nuanced ways• The role of media, capitalism, and culture in shaping feminist narratives• Koa’s new work on “Valley Girl” culture and what it reveals about gender, race, and power• The deeply flawed foster care system and how systemic inequality shows up in family courtsThis is a conversation about unlearning, discomfort, and telling the truth—even when it costs you.📚 Resources & Mentions• Koa Beck's essay about identity in Salon• "White Feminism" by Koa Beck• Koa Beck’s “Valley Girl” Substack• Koa Beck's Massachusetts Review essay on foster care and adoption🎤 JOIN US IN THE FEMINIST PODCASTERS COLLECTIVE
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The Truth About “Believe All Women” (It’s Not What You Think)
Mar 3000:48:30Tap to summarizeGet "Liberate Your Business" by Becky Mollenkamp https://liberateyourbusiness.com/What do you do when someone you know is accused of causing harm, and it doesn’t match your experience of them?In this episode of Messy Liberation, Becky and Taina dive into the messy, uncomfortable space between personal truth and collective reality. From celebrity accountability to corporate boycotts, they unpack how nuance gets lost in a world that craves hot takes and binary thinking.This conversation explores the tension between believing harm, honoring lived experience, and navigating systems that are fundamentally flawed. Because the truth is: most things aren’t either/or—they’re both/and.💥 Discussed in This Episode:• Why saying “that wasn’t my experience” can be harmful—and when it isn’t• The difference between gaslighting and sharing a personal perspective• How power, platform, and identity shape accountability• The reality that most people do know someone who has caused harm• Why personal experience ≠ universal truth• The concept of lowercase truth vs. capital-T Truth• How binary thinking limits our ability to engage with complexity• The role of systemic racism in how harm and accountability are perceived• Why calling the police isn’t always a safe or just solution• What harm reduction and community accountability can look like• Cancel culture vs. actual accountability• Why cancel culture may be more appropriate for corporations than individuals• The limits of boycotts—and how capitalism restricts our choices• The privilege baked into “ethical consumption” conversations• Why no one is fully outside harmful systems (yes, even you)• Holding people accountable without flattening their humanity or talent• The danger of moral superiority in activism spaces🧠 Key Takeaways:• You can hold multiple truths at once, even when they conflict• Believing harm doesn’t require abandoning critical thinking• Your experience with someone is real, but it’s not the whole picture• Systems (like capitalism and policing) shape outcomes more than individual intent• There is no “perfect” ethical choice under capitalism, only more informed ones• Accountability should focus on repair and harm reduction—not just punishmentNuance isn’t weakness—it’s necessary for justice🎤 JOIN US IN THE FEMINIST PODCASTERS COLLECTIVE
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The Manosphere Is Raising Boys Into Fascism (+ "The Bride" review and art talk)
Mar 2300:56:20Tap to summarizeGet "Liberate Your Business" by Becky Mollenkamp https://liberateyourbusiness.com/Becky and Taina dig into the rise of the manosphere, toxic masculinity, and the very real pipeline from boyhood insecurity to adult misogyny. What starts as a conversation about a Netflix documentary quickly spirals into a deeper, messier truth: we are watching unhealed men build entire belief systems—and movements—around avoiding their own pain.They unpack how patriarchy, absent or harmful parenting dynamics, and systemic barriers to mental health support shape the men who go on to harm others at scale. This episode also explores the tension between empathy and accountability, the role of parenting in disrupting these cycles, and why “just get therapy” isn’t as simple (but is still necessary).Plus: a powerful conversation about fatherhood, chosen family, and what it means to grow up without the support you deserved—and how people find ways to survive anyway.🧠 Discussed in This Episode:• The Netflix “manosphere” documentary and why it falls short• The manosphere pipeline: from young boys to radicalized men• Why men avoid therapy, and the cultural systems reinforcing that• How trauma, especially around parents, shapes harmful behavior• The tension between understanding harm vs. excusing it• Parenting boys in a misogynistic, algorithm-driven world• The role of YouTube, gaming culture, and online communities• Why representation and intersectionality matter at a systemic level• The myth of the “absent father” narrative and its racist roots• The lasting impact of the Moynihan Report• Fatherhood as a role vs. identity—and who gets to opt out• “Fake dads,” parasocial relationships, and emotional survival• The feminist critique of parenting structures and gender expectations• Art, intention vs. impact, and how we interpret meaning• Film discussion: The Bride and feminist storytelling in cinema🔗 Resources Mentioned:• "Why Does Patriarchy Persist?" by Carol Gilligan and Naomi Snider• The Moynihan Report• The Manosphere on Netflix🎤 JOIN US IN THE FEMINIST PODCASTERS COLLECTIVE
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Eat the Rich: Corporate Greed, Tax Dodging, and Why We're All Paying for It
Mar 1600:46:18Tap to summarizeGet "Liberate Your Business" by Becky Mollenkamp https://liberateyourbusiness.com/In this episode of Messy Liberation, feminist coaches and best friends Becky Mollenkamp and Taina Brown dig into the corporate greed crisis, from the Starbucks founder fleeing a state income tax to Oprah's "let them eat cake" energy at Paris Fashion Week. With a sharp intersectional lens, they connect wealth hoarding, stolen women's labor, a broken tax system, and the urgent need to build real community as an act of resistance.In This Episode, We Get Into:The Starbucks founder Howard Schultz announcing he's leaving Seattle for Florida after Washington state passed a new income tax — and what that says about corporate greed in AmericaOprah's out-of-touch social media presence during Paris Fashion Week while the world is literally on fire (including oil refinery disasters in Iran)The jaw-dropping data on CEO pay vs. worker pay — a 1,000% increase since 1978, with top CEOs now making ~285–300x more than their average employeesHow corporations exploit crises (like COVID-era supply chain disruptions) to normalize price gouging and shrinkflationThe real history of International Women's Day as a labor movement — not a "girlboss" celebration — and how women's unpaid and underpaid labor has always been systematically stolenThe pay gap breakdown: 78 cents on the dollar for white women, even less for Black, Indigenous, Hispanic, and Latina women — and how women in care fields don't even have a comparable male wage to measure againstHow the U.S. tax system is deliberately made incomprehensible, who benefits from that confusion, and why 1 in 5 Fortune 500 companies paid zero federal taxes between 2018–2022The red state/blue state tax welfare dynamic — and why blue state taxpayers are effectively subsidizing the tax-dodging rich who move to FloridaWhy U.S. hyper-individualism keeps the kindling from igniting — and how building real community is the counter to late-stage capitalismResource:How We Show Up: Reclaiming Family, Friendship, and Community by Mia Birdsong🎤 JOIN US IN THE FEMINIST PODCASTERS COLLECTIVE
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Living Through Trumpism: How Do You Stay Sane?
Mar 900:46:43Tap to summarizeGet "Liberate Your Business" by Becky Mollenkamp https://liberateyourbusiness.com/The news cycle feels relentless. The politics feel terrifying. And somehow we’re still expected to answer emails, pay bills, and live our lives.In this episode, Becky Mollenkamp and Taina Brown talk about what it’s like living through Trumpism, rising authoritarianism, and the growing sense that fascism isn’t just a history lesson—it’s something people are trying to understand in real time.They unpack the emotional impact of political overwhelm, news fatigue, and political anxiety, especially for people whose privilege once shielded them from the realities many marginalized communities have faced for generations.This conversation explores how systems like white supremacy and authoritarian politics function almost like belief systems—or even cults—and why leaving those systems can feel disorienting, lonely, and scary.Becky and Taina also talk about the role of education, privilege, media literacy, and social media in shaping how people understand politics today. Why do so many online conversations turn hostile instead of productive? What happens when people begin waking up to systems of power they were once part of?Most importantly, they talk about how to cope with political burnout and overwhelm without shutting down completely. Research shows that action—whether activism, community care, or even small personal steps—can help restore a sense of agency when everything feels out of control.If you’ve been feeling exhausted by politics, struggling with the constant bad news cycle, or wondering how to stay engaged without burning out, this episode is for you.Because surviving times like these has never been an individual project. It has always been collective.Topics Covered:Trumpism and rising authoritarian politicsWhat fascism can feel like in everyday lifePolitical anxiety, news fatigue, and overwhelmPrivilege and the moment the “bubble” cracksWhite supremacy as a belief systemSocial media and political discoursePolitical burnout and activism fatigueHow community and collective action help people survive political crises🎤 JOIN US IN THE FEMINIST PODCASTERS COLLECTIVE
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