Have you ever wondered why some businesses seem to grow effortlessly while others struggle to get noticed, even when they're incredibly good at what they do?

In this episode, I sit down with executive coach and people leader Ellen Hooper to talk about what really happens when you combine a great offer with clear marketing.

Ellen shares how she built a successful coaching business before ever touching Meta ads, why learning sales and marketing became one of the biggest growth opportunities in her business, and how getting clear on who she helps transformed the way she attracts clients.

We also talk about why so many talented business owners stay hidden, why niching feels uncomfortable, and how purpose-led growth often starts with being brave enough to speak directly to the people you can help most.

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We also get into one of my favourite topics, Meta ads that don't suck. Ellen shares her experience moving from done-for-you Meta ads management to learning how to run her own campaigns, what surprised her most about Facebook advertising, and why ads are an amplifier rather than a magic wand.

We talk about lead generation, building trust through free challenges, understanding your customer journey, and why profitable Meta ads often start long before someone clicks "buy".

If you've ever wondered why Instagram ads aren't converting, how to stop wasting money on ads, or how to create a clear marketing strategy that helps more of the right people find you, you'll get plenty from this conversation.

Ellen also shares her thoughts on the myth of digital products, why high-ticket offers can sometimes be easier to sell than low-ticket products, and how data can dramatically improve your business decision-making.

We discuss customer insights, testing and measuring, website conversion challenges, and why understanding the story behind the numbers can help you build a stronger business.

Whether you're a coach, consultant, service provider, founder, personal brand or small business owner looking to learn Meta ads, improve your Facebook ads strategy, or create growth without burnout, this episode is packed with practical lessons and honest reflections from two business owners figuring it out in real time. It's a conversation about values-led marketing, human-first marketing, and building a business that works for your life, not the other way around.

Have you ever resisted niching down because you didn't want to turn people away? I'd love to hear your experience. Send me a message and connect with us on Instagram @lumemarketing

Contact details mentioned:

Connect with Ellen Hooper on Instagram, Facebook or via her website
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Megan Winter on LinkedIn

Resources

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