Redemption in Real Time with Quincy Carter

Summary

Episode Overview

Podcast: Mick Unplugged
Episode Title: Redemption in Real Time with Quincy Carter
Date: November 28, 2025
Host(s): Mick Hunt (with frequent co-host Nick)
Guest: Quincy Carter (University of Georgia football icon, former Dallas Cowboys QB)
Theme:
This powerful episode explores the winding journey of Quincy Carter, from his rise as a young athlete in baseball and football, through success and public downfall, to his hard-won redemption and commitment to helping others. It’s a story focused on resilience, accountability, purpose (“your because”), and the power of faith and community in real-time recovery. Quincy pulls no punches—offering honest accounts of addiction, professional pressures, and rebuilding his life and legacy.

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Episode Breakdown

1. Early Life, Roots, and Athletic Foundation

(Timestamps: 05:41 – 09:29)

• Quincy's Background:
  Born in Bloomington, moved to Chicago as an infant, then to Atlanta/Decatur around age 3–4.
  Raised by a hardworking mother and the Gresham Park community—sports became his safe haven and developmental crucible.

• Competitive Spirit:
  Quincy’s early drive was forged not just in football, but also in table tennis, bumper pool, basketball, and baseball.
  He aspired to lead the storied Southwest DeKalb High School football team back to championship glory—a journey he began as an eighth grader.
  “We put our head down and went to work as a team.” (07:18, Quincy Carter)

• Pioneering Impact as a Black QB:
  Quincy reflects with pride on breaking through as a Black quarterback at predominantly Black schools and at the state’s highest competition level.
  Inspiration: Charlie Ward and Damien Craig were role models who showed him what was possible.
  “What you just mentioned wasn't happening for black quarterbacks either. … But having an idol like Charlie Ward … and seeing him go on to Florida State … to win a national championship and to win a Heisman was everything to me.” (07:58, Quincy Carter)

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2. Baseball Journey: Drafted Out of High School

(Timestamps: 09:30 – 18:08)

• East Cobb Astros & Exposure:
  Quincy credits Gresham Park and travel ball with the East Cobb Astros (ages 13–17) as critical for sharpening his baseball skills and mindset.

• Draft Day Memories:
  Drafted by his “original hometown” Chicago Cubs in the second round—a dream realized during high school graduation practice.
  “Getting that phone call at graduation practice was pretty cool … to get that call at graduation, man, it was pretty cool.” (11:39, Quincy Carter)

• Family & Cubs Fandom:
  Summers in Chicago with his grandfather—watching Cubs legends on TV—highlight the emotional resonance of being drafted by the team he grew up loving.

• From Graduation to Grown Man:
  First big purchase fantasy: Mercedes. Reality: “Eddie Bauer edition” Ford Explorer, thanks to mom’s financial discipline!
  “In my mind, I thought I was getting ready to get a Mercedes, but that wasn’t happening.” (16:55, Quincy Carter)

• Transition to Pro Athlete Life:
  Fast realization in rookie ball: “It became grown man business right away … But, hey, that’s what I dreamed of … so I embraced it and loved it.” (18:08, Quincy Carter)

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3. Choosing Football: Georgia Tech to University of Georgia

(Timestamps: 19:06 – 24:17)

• Recruitment Dilemma:
  Verbal commitment to Georgia Tech—a complex decision shaped by NCAA probation concerns at UGA, connections to baseball peers, and influential mentors.

• Switching to UGA—A ‘Business Decision’:
  Ultimately, his heart and roots led him to the University of Georgia, despite prior commitments:
  “It was a tough decision … but it was a business decision too.” (20:43, Quincy Carter)

• Redefining Offense at Georgia:
  As starting quarterback, Quincy shifted the Bulldogs’ traditionally run-heavy offense into a more diversified, pass-first attack.
  “You totally changed … you were not a run first quarterback. … You were like, let me show off this gun that I got and I'm gonna sling this ball down the field.” (21:53, Nick)
  “It was a dream come true … I put my head down, you know, I had some great teammates…” (22:23–23:40, Quincy Carter)

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4. NFL Journey: Drafted & Starting for the Dallas Cowboys

(Timestamps: 24:24 – 29:41)

• Remarkable Career Path:
  Drafted by three iconic teams—Cubs, UGA, Cowboys—Quincy notes the script-like nature of his early career.
  “It is a movie … to have those three teams you’ve played for… and then for it to end up in Dallas … was a dream come true, man.” (25:21, Quincy Carter)

• Breaking Barriers:
  Becoming the starting QB for the Cowboys as a rookie—one of the first Black quarterbacks in Dallas to do so.
  Shaking Doug Williams' hand on opening day—a hero to young Black QBs—“was a dream,” Quincy recounts. (25:21, Quincy Carter)

• Work Ethic Under Bill Parcells:
  Legendary stories of Quincy’s relentless commitment:
  “It’s 11 o’ clock at night. Watch this.” … There’s Quincy, breaking down practice film long after everyone else is gone. (27:24, Nick referencing Hard Knocks)
  Parcells provided the “father figure” discipline Quincy craved:
  “It was perfect for me … I just ate every bit of it up. I did.” (28:00–29:41, Quincy Carter)

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5. Addiction, Downfall, and Hard Reality

(Timestamps: 29:46 – 37:25)

• Being Cut from the Cowboys:
  Nick prompts Quincy to “tell the real story”—Quincy lands in Jerry Jones' office expecting a contract talk, but is instead let go after repeated failed drug tests (marijuana).
  “I started a habit … I didn't depend on God like I should have … I tried to keep it a secret … but what's down in the dark eventually comes to light.” (30:08, Quincy Carter)

• Clearing the Record:
  Rumors swirled, but Quincy clarifies: “Quincy Carter got suspended or fired for marijuana usage, right? … Yeah, absolutely. At the time, that’s what it was, man.” (34:17–34:50)

• Continued Struggles:
  After years out of the NFL and forays into Arena Football, Quincy earned another NFL try-out with the Dolphins.
  Self-sabotage: He relapses, tries to “mask” drug tests, and loses the opportunity.
  “That lesson I had to learn just got a little bit more harder for me because I wasn't believing in the man yet, man.” (37:19, Quincy Carter)

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6. Rock Bottom, Faith, and Recovery

(Timestamps: 37:25 – 43:12)

• Conversion from Knowing to Surrender:
  Two pivotal moments: Reaching out for help (Hollywood Henderson), and sincerely praying for God’s guidance.
  “That surreal moment … was me sitting at a table … looking to the skies … and just asking God, man, if you’re here for me, please show me.” (39:30, Quincy Carter)

• Accountability:
  “What I wasn’t accounting for is that I was the one in the way, … I was the one that failed … I was the one who was in position … and I didn’t lean on God a little bit more…” (39:56, Quincy Carter)

• Quincy’s Message for Others Facing Darkness:
  “There’s only two ways … one, you have to have someone outside of yourself … to restore you to sanity … and the second one, … you gotta dig deep in those steps and go through a great 12-step program…” (41:12–42:38, Quincy Carter)

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7. “Because”: Purpose, Giving Back and New Legacy

(Timestamps: 43:12 – 48:37)

• Renewed Purpose:
  “God gave me grace, man. … He gave me a second chance, man. … I never thought I would actually be telling my whole life story of missed opportunities and having joy about it, to be able to tell somebody else and help them.” (43:12–44:03, Quincy Carter)

• Active Leadership:
  Quincy runs his foundation (the Quincy Carter Foundation), gives talks, coaches, and actively mentors young quarterbacks and youth—prioritizing drug-free living and community impact.

• Living His “Because”:
  “You have your struggles and then you can get out here and help people, regardless of what you’ve been through … And then my biggest gift is I can point them to God and I can show them, no matter what mistakes I’ve made…” (44:03–45:03, Quincy Carter)

• Powerful Closing Affirmation:
  “You got me, dude.” (45:03, Quincy Carter, getting emotional discussing gratitude and redemption)
  “Your because is your superpower. Go unleash it.” (48:24, Co-host Nick)

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• On Leadership and Breaking Barriers:
  “I had to go in and prove that an African American can do the same thing as Eric Zaire.” (23:08, Quincy Carter)

• On Addiction and Honesty:
  “I was doing things that eventually caught up to me. What’s down in the dark eventually comes to light, and it bit me in my butt.” (31:44, Quincy Carter)

• On Second Chances and Grace:
  “God gave me grace, man. I’m getting emotional, dude. He gave me a second chance, man. … I never thought I would actually be telling my whole life story of missed opportunities and having joy about it, to be able to tell somebody else and help them.” (43:12–44:03, Quincy Carter)

• On Faith and Accountability:
  “I know how powerful He is. And then to pick me back up on my feet, Nick. And that’s all I can do to give back to Him, man. … Some days, man, I should have been dead, but I’m here.” (44:43, Quincy Carter)

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Key Takeaways & Themes

• Resilience through Adversity: Carter’s journey is as much about what went wrong as what went right—he owns both with unflinching honesty.
• Leadership Redefined: Breaking molds as a Black quarterback, showing relentless work ethic, and now pouring into mentorship off the field.
• Faith as Foundation: Real transformation happened not at his peak, but in his lowest valleys, through surrender to God and community.
• Purpose (“Because”): For Quincy, it’s about using hard-won lessons to impact others—especially young athletes—by sharing his full story.

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Quincy Carter: Where to Connect

• Facebook: Quincy Lavon Carter
• Website: thequincycarterfoundation.com and quincycarter17.com
• Foundation: Programs supporting safe, drug-free youth, sports clinics, and mentoring.

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Memorable/Emotional Moments

• Quincy’s pride and humility in being a pioneer for Black quarterbacks in Georgia football.
• The story of getting drafted by the Cubs during his high school graduation practice.
• The emotional clarity and vulnerability describing being cut by the Cowboys and later denied a second shot due to addiction.
• The shift from “knowing” God to seeking Him daily, as the only way to lasting restoration.
• Quincy holding himself accountable and highlighting the transformative power of giving back.

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Suggested Listening Segments

• Quincy on the Power of Role Models & Representation (07:58)
• Draft Day Reflections & Early Professional Life (11:39, 16:55, 18:08)
• Starting QB at Georgia & Offensive Transformation (21:53–23:40)
• NFL Barriers, Parcells, and Work Ethic (25:21, 28:00–29:41)
• Addiction, the Real Story, and Message for Young Athletes (30:08, 34:17)
• Faith, Recovery, and Sustainable Hope (39:30, 41:12, 43:12)
• Redemption, Legacy, and “Because” in Action (44:03–45:03, 48:24)

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This episode is an honest, deeply inspiring look at leadership, failure, faith, and the relentless pursuit of purpose—Quincy Carter’s “because.” His message: You can come back from anything, and your story can be someone’s lifeline.

Transcript

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You and what it was like man, just to get drafted. Professional sports out of high school.

[Quincy Carter]

Yeah, that was a pretty cool experience. You know, first it all started with me at Gresham park and playing, you know, alongside the likes of Travis Strauss of the world and some other great players, you know, that I played along with. And so that's where my, you know, competitive baseball started.

[Co-host Nick]

In your mind, what was the first.

Thing you were buying?

[Quincy Carter]

Well, the first thing I was buying was a Mercedes. But then Sherry Carter Embry was buying something else.

[Co-host Nick]

What is 18, 17 year old Quincy.

The first time you report to the Cubs? Man, walk us through when you realize.

Oh, this is what grown people do.

[Quincy Carter]

Yeah, well it was probably my first morning at practice and it's rookie ball.

[Co-host Nick]

Before baseball, you give a rubber to Georgia Tech. And then baseball is over and you don't go to Georgia Tech. How did that come through?

[Quincy Carter]

Georgia was getting ready to be on probation or was already on probation and I just didn't feel comfortable in possibly going to college and not being able to play in bowl games.

[Mick (Podcast Host)]

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[Co-host Nick]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Mick Unplugged where legends don't just share their stories, they have legacies. And today we're honored to sit down with the University of Georgia football icon, former Dallas Cowboys starting quarterback and a.

True warrior of resilience.

From the glory days of the game to life's toughest challenges, he's transformed every obstacle into a lesson. And he now shares those hard earned.

[Mick]

Wisdom with the next generation.

[Co-host Nick]

He's a dynamic speaker.

He's an inspiration to the world and.

A force of unwavering grit.

Help me welcome my friend, my dog, Mr. GQ himself, Quincy Carter. Quincy, what's up, brother?

[Quincy Carter]

What's up, man? Good Lord, man. You talking about making somebody feel special, man. I appreciate that introduction, man.

[Co-host Nick]

Hey, that, that's all you.

That's all love. You know you're my main man, 50 grand, man. So just, just honored to share some.

Time on the podcast with you, brother.

[Quincy Carter]

Hey, man, I'm honored to be spending some time with you too, man. Thanks for the introduction. No, good Lord, man.

[Co-host Nick]

It's all you, man.

Quincy, this is when I'm honored. You know, I told you when we.

Met face to face, like, how much I've always looked up to you, how much, you know, like even my family, right, like we're a Georgia football family and had an uncle, Tron Jackson that played at Georgia, so we bleed red and black, bro.

And I'm going to say this, you know, I always tell David Pollock, he's my favorite Georgia Bulldog defensive player of all times. And it's you and Garrison Hurst, my.

Top two on offense, man. Like, you are the guy. You're the goat when it comes to Georgia football, bro.

[Quincy Carter]

Wow, man, I appreciate that, man.

[Co-host Nick]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

So I want to start by.

Not today, but you know you and I talked about your recruiting process, right? And how you went from junior high to high school and the legend of.

Quincy Carter started forming, not just on the football field, but you could swing that bat too, brother. So I'd love to talk about just.

Your journey of young Quincy, right, getting into high School, because that's a story that most people don't know. So I'd love for you to share that moment, brother.

[Quincy Carter]

Yeah, you know, Mick, man, born in Chicago for a lot of people that don't know well, actually born in Bloomington and went to Chicago right out the hospital. And then me and my mom moved down here to Atlanta, Decatur area about, you know, when I was about three or four years old. But yeah, McMahon life was, to me, it was humbling, you know. You know, coming down here from. From Chicago as a kid, I thought I had everything I wanted, you know what I mean? We didn't grow up in the nicest of neighborhoods. My mom don't like to tell me exactly my neighborhood, so I don't know mom on that, but it was humbling. Grew up at the recreation park, Nick. I was a kid that got dropped off at Gresham park, did all my homework there. And that's where my competitive nature started, you know, and that's where sports started for me. It was table tennis and bumper pool. That moved to basketball base football. And I wanted to play all three, you know, also, you know, coming up, you know, closer to high school, I wanted to play at the best high school for football. And we, you know, actually had a good baseball and basketball team. But that football team was Southwestern Cab High School. You know, Coach Buck Godfrey had established himself in the late 80s, mid to late 80s and the 90s where we're starting. And I wanted to keep that tradition going. We had just went to a state championship in 1990. I think I was in the seventh grade then. And coming into the eighth grade, well, coming into high school, which was eighth grade for us, you know, because we didn't go to middle school, I wanted to be the QB that got us back there. We took a tough loss to Val Austin in the championship game in 1990, and I wanted to be the QB besides Eric Johnson, to lead us back to Promises, so. So I started on that journey in eighth grade, man. And we put our head down and went to work as a team.

[Co-host Nick]

And you did it. You did it, right?

Like you can brag a little bit. Let's talk about those accolades, man. Like Southwest account Quincy doing his thing, leading the school to multiple championships, breaking records, doing things that quarterbacks that look like you hadn't done in the state of Georgia or in the United States.

To be honest with you, man.

So talk about those accolades, Quincy.

[Quincy Carter]

Well, you know, it was a big accomplishment and one having pride in being, you know, the only black school, all black school to win at its highest classification, you know, the Clark Centrals of the World's Rule, the Valdostas shoot, Camden Counties, you know, Parkview was coming up at that time, and so. So we're very proud of that. You know, what you just mentioned wasn't happening for black quarterbacks either. You know, as far as going to D1 schools and, you know, but having an idol like Charlie Ward, you know, right down the street in Thomasvill, and seeing him go on to Florida State, you know, to win a national championship and to win a Heisman was everything to me. You got to think that was my freshman sophomore in junior season in high school, you know, and I was watching him. And then Damien Craig, you know, started to make some noise at Auburn, and ironically, you know, those were the first two or three schools I started looking at was Auburn, it was Florida State. And then I, you know, end up settling with Georgia Tech. Not settling. I'm sorry, no disrespect, because they had a really good program at the time, which. You want to get into that anyway?

[Co-host Nick]

You know, I do.

We.

We talked a lot about that when we were in person.

Absolutely, yes.

[Quincy Carter]

But, yeah, you know, those are the guys I looked up to. Those are the guys that were running, throwing the ball, being in multiple facet formations, and really, you know, being able to show every aspect of their game.

[Mick]

Yeah.

[Co-host Nick]

So before we get into the Georgia Tech story, though, I want to get.

Into that curveball because, you know, I'm a Tar Heel. I'm a Georgia guy, but I'm a Tar Heel grad.

And, you know, MJ went and played baseball for a little bit, but he couldn't hit that curveball.

Mr. Carter could. Quincy could hit it. So talk to us a little bit about baseball, what that meant for you.

And what it was like, man, just to get drafted. Professional sports out of high school.

[Quincy Carter]

Yeah, that was a pretty cool experience. You know, first, it all started with me at Gresham park and playing, you know, alongside the likes of the Travis Strouds of the world and some other great players, you know, that I played along with. And so that's where my, you know, competitive baseball started at. You know, I ended up getting selected to play for the East Cobb Astros at the age of 13. And we took the opportunity, you know, at the time, East Cobb, which is, you know, well, really pretty nationly, well known, only have one, you know, team out the whole state for each age group. So we took advantage of that opportunity. So from 13 to 17, you know, I played a lot of travel Ball played about shoot 80 to 100 games a summer. Had a really, really good coach at Southwestern DeKalb, too. Coach Pruitt, who helped start, you know, the reading program before Coach Goodwin later took it along and then really winning region championships and the whole nine over there in the state championship at Reading. But yeah, so with me getting so much experience during the summertime and my game really taking off, you know, a lot of scouts start, you know, buzzing around southwest DeKalb during the spring of my senior season. And my hometown team, who I say my second hometown team, I can't disrespect. Atlanta Indicator, Good Lord, get me, because, boy, my people here really fed my spirit. But, yeah, my original hometown team, let's say it like that. Chicago Cubs drafted me in the second round. And it was a dream come true. Mick, I think I told you this, but I tell everybody, man, that getting that phone call at graduation practice was pretty cool, you know, because I didn't know what time it was going to happen. You know, the baseball draft could go on for. You know what I think 30, 45 minutes of pick or something like that, if I'm not mistaken. I think it's changed now, but to get that call of graduation, man, it was pretty cool.

[Co-host Nick]

Walk us through that call and that emotion, man. So you got young Quincy graduating high school, getting a call of second round.

Pick by the Chicago Cubs, right?

The team that, you know us growing up, Quincy, you always saw the Cubs because the WGN station, right?

Like the Cubs.

You saw the Cubs more than the Braves, for the most part. I'm from the south, too.

[Quincy Carter]

Absolutely.

[Co-host Nick]

What is that like?

[Quincy Carter]

Well, shoot, make. Not to cut y'. All Sorry about that. But me and my granddad, you know, I went to Chicago right after my short kind of baseball season growing up at Gresham Park. I went to Chicago the rest of the summer. So me and my granddad sat there and watched. Well, first we had to watch the Bozo show. Cause grandma wasn't playing games. Then it was General. Think General Hospital, One Life to Live, one of them, you know, Then we can watch the game. But yeah, man, shit, we watched, you know, Chicago baseball, man, all summer. And growing up and seeing Andre Dawson and I mean, Sean Dawson. Andre Dawson. I'm sorry. Sean Dunston. Let me get my guys, right?

[Co-host Nick]

Yeah.

[Quincy Carter]

Mark Grace.

[Co-host Nick]

Ryan Sandberg.

[Quincy Carter]

Ryan Sandberg. And then walking in the locker room, actually seeing him after I got drafted was just so, you know, surreal. But, man, I was. It was surreal, you know, to really get that phone call and I Think my mom called me first on three way with them.

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[Co-host Nick]

That's wild. That's wild.

So that means that young Quincy had a cell phone, too. We'll talk about that later because I know I didn't get a cell phone.

Till way into college. Way into college. So I had One, so. But yeah, man, so you get the.

Call from the Cubs, go into your hometown team, the team that's always on tv. You got Harry Carey. Like most people don't know, the Cubs.

Never played night games until like 10 years ago. Like they didn't have lights at the ballpark, which is wild and cool.

[Quincy Carter]

Exactly. It was.

[Co-host Nick]

Yeah.

[Quincy Carter]

So.

[Co-host Nick]

So, so you got the call. What's the first thing in your mind that you bought?

[Mick]

Because.

[Co-host Nick]

Because you got to think through, right? Like, man, I'm with the cubs, like I'm 17, 18, like I'm about to buy something. In your mind, what was the first.

Thing you were buying?

[Quincy Carter]

Well, the first thing I was buying was a Mercedes. But then Sherrod Carter embryo was buying something else. Not that she was taking my money, but I wasn't about to spend all this money on a Mercedes. So I think we settled. What did I get? Eddie Bauer. Yeah, I never forget. I got the Eddie Bauer edition. You know, Eddie Bauer started making clothes, I think, also. So I had the jacket. What was that? A Ford, I think the Explorer. Yeah, there it is. And I got the Eddie Bauer edition. Yeah. Heck yeah. But in my mind, like you worded, I thought I was getting ready to get a Mercedes, but that wasn't happening. And my mom wanted to be. Wanted me to be smart. And now. Okay, smart for her, for discipline.

[Co-host Nick]

Okay. All right.

So. So now you're a professional.

Young age, you're a professional, which means.

You go from high school practices with.

People your age and younger and you're kind of the leader to. As I always tell people, man, you out there with grown folks.

What is 18, 17 year old? Quincy, the first time you report to.

The Cubs, man, walk us through when you realize, oh, this is what grown people do.

[Quincy Carter]

Yeah. Well, it was probably my first morning at practice and it's rookie ball. So rookie ball is you think you're getting ready to come to the park and have a little batting practice and then play a game. But rookie ball work started at 7:30, you know, to about 11. And so that's fielding, that's outfield drills, that's base, running shoe, you name it out. I mean, well, fielding situations as far as having men on base, you know, hitting the ball in the gap, where you throwing the ball, battling practice for an hour. You hit live pitching in the cage and then you go have lunch probably about 10:30, maybe 10:30, 11. And then you're out on the field, you know, playing the game at 12 o'. Clock. So it became grown man business right away. You know, that first day. But, hey, that's what I dreamed of and that's what I wanted to do. So I embraced it, man. I embraced it and loved it.

[Co-host Nick]

Yeah.

And so now we get to talk about Georgia Tech. So you find out you like baseball, but maybe you don't love everything about.

The professional side of it, right?

[Quincy Carter]

Absolute.

[Co-host Nick]

Cause she's still 18, right? You still like, hey, I still. This Mercedes. I still want, right? So, high school, you recruited and give a verbal commitment to Georgia Tech.

Quincy, we gotta talk about this one.

We all know in the state of Georgia, my Bulldogs reign supreme.

[Quincy Carter]

Absolutely.

[Co-host Nick]

So I'm gonna ask the question that, you know, I've been waiting to ask you forever. How much money does Georgia Tech give you to give you that verbal commitment? Because I know you. No, I'm joking.

I'm joking.

[Mick]

I'm joking.

[Co-host Nick]

I'm joking. But so before baseball, you give a rubber to Georgia Tech, and then baseball is over and you don't go to Georgia Tech. You made the wise decision to go to uga, but how did that come through? I want the listeners and viewers to hear this story.

[Quincy Carter]

Okay. All right. Now I gotta tell the whole story, too, now. And that whole story was.

[Co-host Nick]

You got a bag?

[Quincy Carter]

Well, no, no, I'm still not gonna tell on nobody. But the whole story is, though, Georgia was getting ready to be on probation or was already on probation. And I just didn't feel comfortable in the. Possibly going to college and not being able to play in bowl games. Now, I've gotta add my real spin to it, and that's that, you know, Georgia Tech was pretty decent at the time. You know, the offense they were running.

[Co-host Nick]

Ralph Free, pro style offense.

[Quincy Carter]

Pro style offense. Mentor of mine, Steve Davenport, you know, was from Georgia Tech. And then I had about four or five baseball buddies who was joining me on the baseball team, too, so. So it was a tough decision. You know, I've always been a Georgia boy, wanted to stay home. So it was a tough decision to, you know, sign with Georgia Tech. And it's even tougher talking about it now because I didn't blend the red and black. But, Mick, I owe you this one. There you go. That's my answer. But it was a. It was a business decision, too. It was.

[Co-host Nick]

And we'll just leave it at that.

So nobody else gets in trouble.

It was a business decision, for the record. So now let's talk about my dogs, man, you go to Georgia and let's just be honest. 60s, 70s, 80s, I'm going to say.

Until Eric Zier got there.

Georgia's offense was, we're going to have the best running backs in the country. First and second down, we're running the ball. And if it's third and five or less, we're still gonna run the ball. Third down, right?

[Quincy Carter]

Absolutely.

[Co-host Nick]

You get there and you become a.

Prolific passer of the football.

Something that honestly was new to Georgia fans, right? Like first down, wait, we're dropping back, we're gonna throw the ball, we're gonna line up in the shotgun on second down, like, what? But you totally changed because these are the words of Mick and Mick only unlike other African American quarterbacks up till that date, you were not a run first quarterback. You were not an option. You were like, let me show off this gun that I got and I'm gonna sling this ball down the field. And you set records. Moment 1 As a freshman quarterback at Georgia.

[Quincy Carter]

Yeah, it was a dream come true too, man. And shout out to coach Donna, you know, who believed in me. Shout out to him, you know, saying the words to get me down there, but then actually delivering as far as giving me a chance to compete, you know, against five other. Five other quarterbacks. And, you know, being an African, being the only African American in that role in Georgia, really not having the history of having a black quarterback there since, well, I think James Jackson.

[Co-host Nick]

James Jackson, yeah.

[Quincy Carter]

So the opportunity, you know, to be a quarterback at the University of Georgia was a dream come true. And. And you just, you said it. Best man. For us to be throwing, you know, first and second down sometimes instead of running the ball on first and second down was unheard of. But, you know, Eric Zaire, he set the precedent for that. And he's, you know, he showed that it could be done. And then I had to go in and prove that an African American can do the same thing as Eric Zaire. And so, man, I put my head down, you know, I had some great teammates shout out to Jonas Jennings too, for giving me the confidence, you know, to give, you know, Georgia a shot, you know, coming back from baseball. But, man, we put our head down. It didn't hurt having Champ Bailey as your receiver year, too.

[Co-host Nick]

Yeah.

[Quincy Carter]

And everything he could bring to the table. And that's just kind of set the bar, you know, for, For Larry Brown running routes up underneath Wiggins, another one of our tight ends. Yeah, man, Michael Gray had a big year that year, too, and some big catches. And shout out to Tony Small. They didn't get a lot of credit for being a really, really good receiver, standing at six to about 200 pounds too. So I had some pretty good, you know, some pretty, not pretty good, but I have some great guys around me too. And then let me get a shout out to Steve Hernan and Miles Lucky. Before they knocked me out on my offensive line, man, they were my boys.

[Co-host Nick]

They helped you stay upright, brother. They helped you stay upright.

[Quincy Carter]

Absolutely.

[Co-host Nick]

So you have three really, really good.

Years at Georgia, which leads you to.

Being second round draft pick by the Cowboys. Another one of those things. Like you almost can't write this story.

Of Quincy Carter, right?

Get drafted by the Cubs, right? Big national brand, Go to the University of Georgia, starting quarterback, big national brand. And now you get drafted by the Dallas Cowboys. Shout out to Kenny Anderson, that's his team, whatever. I'm not a Cowboys fan, but doggone to Quincy Carter, not only do you get drafted, but you do something that's really hard at that time, which was you start. That's people now, right? You draft a quarterback round one or two, kind of the expectation is you're.

Going to start a little bit, not.

Then like rookie quarterbacks. You're going to sit a couple of.

Years, maybe year three.

You get some shine, you get some burn. Quincy gets in the game. So let's walk through the draft. So Quincy Carter, drafted by the Dallas Cowboys.

[Quincy Carter]

Man, Nick, I'm telling you, it is a movie. It is a movie. To have those three teams you've played for, but then for it to, you know, end up in Dallas, you know, after I'm done playing college football was a dream come true, man. And Nick, you know, everything, you know, that I, you know, had been through and God had placed me at, you know, having some adversity in baseball with the Cubs, going to Georgia, being one of the only, you know, African American ever start there, and then coming to Dallas and being one of the only African American to start there. Not only that, like you just said, the first game of the season, opening day, and then seeing your hero on the field. Doug Williams was the first to ever win a, you know, super bowl as an African American. And to see him, you know, pre game and shake his hands, my first time ever meeting him, it was a dream. But one thing I always knew is that I had to work my butt off to keep it. And I had my eyes on the prize of doing that. And that was year in and year out and nothing was going to stop me but myself. And I end up, you know, stopping myself through some things that we'll probably get into. But, you know, as far as my work ethic as Far as who I was as a person, who I was trying to be, who I was becoming, who I was representing, you know, was evident. And I was going to do anything to accomplish everything I wanted to.

[Co-host Nick]

Yeah, man.

And let's. I don't want to slide past something because not only are you drafted by.

The Cowboys and starting for the Cowboys.

I'm going to say more importantly, bro, you're starting for Bill freaking Parcels, right? Like, like, of any coach that I'm not going to say is against you, but of any coach that doesn't want to start a rookie quarterback. It spilled parcels, bro. So that is a testament to the work ethic that you had, the leader that you were and for anyone. Go watch. I don't know if it's season one, Hard Knocks, but there's a Hard Knocks.

Episode and I told you this, right.

Like where Bill Parcells is sitting there talking to someone and like they're like, you want to know about quincy Carter? It's 11 o' clock at night.

Watch this.

And he yells out your name. You were at the football facility at 11 o' clock at night breaking down your practice film. Not even game, but your practice film, and figuring out ways to get better. That's a true testament to who you are. So I love to go behind the.

Scenes a little bit.

What was it like, especially year one Parcells in earning his trust, what was that like?

Because that's something again, nobody else has.

Done other than Quincy Carter. So we're adding to this movie Brother Mick.

[Quincy Carter]

It was perfect for me, you know, because, you know, not to toot my own horn, but I was like the perfect quarterback for him because I wanted someone not growing up with a, you know, a father in my life. I wanted that father, you know, in my life, you know, and I finally got that. And it was the perfect recipe for me, you know, to have somebody that, you know, it's just so enamored with every detail possible, you know, for just one play to work. And now we're not. We're just talking about. I'm just talking mentioned in place. But now when we get to, you know, actually how you take care of your body, how many lifts a week, the hot and cold tub, you know, then you, you skip over to the film role, you know, what is defense is doing to you on first and second down? What are they doing to you on third, you know, and medium? What are they doing to you on third and long after about six or seven games, you know, now what are we doing? You know, that's Tipping off defenses. And so now, you know, me and him and the coaches, you know, Sean Payton, now we're going into a south scouting mode, you know, so what, what, you know, formations are we running, in what formations are we motioning? And when we're motioning, are we throwing, are we passing? And so just every detail was so important to him and it was just like a dream come true to me to have somebody, they just loved the game as much as he did and just was able to just give me that wisdom and knowledge, man of how to approach it. And I just ate every bit of it up. I did.

[Co-host Nick]

Testament to who you are, brother. Testament to the determination and grit that you have.

So let's get into. And for those that don't know Quincy, you're about to know him.

A lot of people watching, listening, know Quincy. But the real Quincy, I call him the Inconvenient Truth.

He's going to tell you the truth. He's going to hold no punches back. You got, you got called into Jerry Jones office.

[Quincy Carter]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Co-host Nick]

You over there thinking, oh, I'm about to get a contract extension, about to buy this other bins. Conversation didn't go that way.

[Quincy Carter]

It did. And actually before I even got in the office, you know, I thought I had some. So what you call lucky training camp visitors. And I'll keep it pg. But yeah, Mick, you know, I started a habit and actually started in baseball where, you know, I didn't depend on God like I should have. And I started smoking weed. And it's a habit that I form. You know, I tried to keep it a secret as much as possible, as much as what we, you know, were discussing as far as my work ethic and, you know, the things and the person I was trying to be. Mick, I was doing things that eventually caught up to me. I failed my first Test in 2002, going into the season, actually was today at 2002. Bill Parcells knew I was in the program too, and, and had faith in me shout out to, you know, him having faith in me throughout this process. But anyway, a week before training camp, I failed another test. You know, Mick, and that was at the four game fine phase. You know, we had a couple words in training camp about my reps. You know, me and Jerry and Bill, they were concerned that, you know, I'll possibly be getting a third, you know, failed test and then that would be a suspension and embarrassing the who whole franchise. And they made a decision to cut me and, and move on from me because they couldn't trust me. And I, and I thoroughly understand that to this day, you know, that's why I'm out here, you know, and, and I don't like to use the word preaching because, you know, I'm not a pastor, but I am trying to preach to these young men, you know, that's in a world right now that's they're being told that marijuana is legal. And it may be in certain states, but it can't be legal to you if you're trying to accomplish all your goals. What, you know, billionaires out here sitting around trying to get a, you know, PhD in marijuana, which I, you know, kind of slightly say I was at some point because I wasn't dependent on the man up above. But who's doing that out here and being a billionaire, being successful, man. So I'm trying to, you know, get this word out here to these young men. You know, we can think we're being slick, but what's down in the dark eventually comes to life. And they bit me in my butt.

[Mick]

Yeah.

[Co-host Nick]

And I want to clear up some.

Stuff here too, because, you know, again, you and I talked. We talk a lot.

[Mick]

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[Co-host Nick]

You got suspended for marijuana, right?

Like, like there was some other noise that was out there, but the truth was Quincy Carter got suspended or fired for marijuana usage, right?

[Quincy Carter]

Yeah, absolutely. At the time, Nick, now, now my addiction would go on, and I get a PhD in cocaine, which I'm not proud of. I'm smiling at now, but I'm not proud of it, but I'm proud to be able to tell somebody my journey, man, that's what feels good. But. Yeah, but at the time, that's what it was, man. Now, a lot of other things were being said, but. But yes, at the time, it was, Yep, yep.

[Co-host Nick]

And so then you're out of football or out of professional football for a couple of years.

Yes, but then you get another call from the Dolphins. And what happened there, Quincy?

[Quincy Carter]

Well, yeah, Mick, I had played arena football about two seasons, Mick, and I was up in Kansas City and really close to another one of my good coaches, Herm Edwards, who was keeping an eye on me and ended up playing, like, the last, what, four or five games of that season and played okay enough, garner some interest from teams. And the same guy who cut me still believed in me and brought me down to training camp for the Miami Dolphins during the start of the training camp season of 2009. Yeah, 2009, and had a great workout mix, but couldn't stop doing what had got me cut from the Cowboys. And so he told me, well, Bill Parcells, man, told me to go back to the room and, hey, we're gonna sign you, work you out, work, work out the deal with your agent. And, and, and I knew, Mick, going back, you know, it was just a feeling that I had you, you know, get done taking the physicals and all that or what have you. There was a chance that, you know, the things that I hadn't quit just yet, smoking, and, and I, you know, could possibly get caught. And, and that's what happened, Mick. You know, my agent called me about a couple hours later and told me, you know, well, first of all, Eugene Parker, rest in heaven. And he was just asking me, you know, question, why you didn't, why you didn't tell me? And I was just like, what Trying to play it off. And he was like, you should have just told me, you know, that. That you were still having some issues. And we could have just, you know, kind of waited on you going down and working out. But he said they can't even test, you know, the. Your urine. And that's because I tried to mask it, man. And it cost me my job, man. And Bill, you know, you know, I ain't got too grown yet. But coach parcels, man, was really. He was really disappointed, man, because I had done a lot of work, you know, in rehabilitation, working down there in Florida with my mentor and sponsor to this day, Hollywood Henderson, still in my corner. But I had a golden chance, man, of the man who cut me four years later and. And brought me back, you know, to. To get a chance. But that lesson that I had to learn just got a little bit more harder for me because I wasn't believing in the man yet, man.

[Co-host Nick]

Well, let's talk about it now, though, right?

So you go through your challenges, you go through struggles, and then you get closer to the man, the man, the spirit that you've known all your life, right? Because you don't shy away from it. You've known God for all your life, right?

What was that moment where you said, it's not enough to just know him.

You gotta have them.

What was that moment for Quincy Carter?

[Quincy Carter]

Well, it was. It was two phases of it, Mick. It was the morning that I reached out to Hollywood, July 22, 2019. It was that morning, and it was getting on my knees and praying. And the next, you know, moment, Mick was picking up the phone and telling Hollywood, hey, man, come get me before something really bad happens to me, you know, and put me somewhere, man, where I could, you know, work on this thing. And so that was the spirit of God. That was, you know, Marshall Stone from BRC in Austin coming down and picking me up. And I was in rehab in like, five or six hours. But that surreal moment, Mick, was me sitting at a table. You know, I used to get up 4:35 in the morning, you know, writing all my notes. We're doing, you know, step work and everything. I never forget sitting on that porch and just looking to the skies, Mick, and just asking God, man, if you're here for me, please show me and make little bit by little bit, you know, whether it's the phone conversations with my mom I started to have in rehab, whether it's, you know, that bird that was chirping in your ear when you're in a critical spot and you're writing and you're talking to God. He's like, is that God? And then just seeing my confidence as I'm going through the steps and building, you know, I never disowned God. You know, I got mad at God, Nick, and I got mad because, you know, so much bad was happening to me, you know. But Nick, what I wasn't accounting for is that I was the one in the way, you know, I was the one that failed, you know, the test for the Cowboys, a dream come true job. I was the one who was in position to get myself back in the NFL. And I didn't lean on God a little bit more and get that job with the Miami McDolphins, you know, and so, you know, and then being, walking home, being, you know, in the bottom of the barrel, but living in a extended state, up and coming Georgia, and somebody stopping me on the side of the road, you know, Mick. And now, now I have a high school, you know, baseball job, a basketball job, a football job, and then coaching, you know, at a prep school too. So God was still, you know, tugging me, hey, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here. And I was so upset with God and so I strayed away from him. So accept truths, you know, once I got the rehab and just getting closer to him, you know, make. I thought I knew God as a kid. I thought I knew him, you know, in my early, my early 20s, doing some FCA things and seeing the miracles of God, but knowing them on that personal level and feeling the spirit and not, not wanting to not be feeling the spirit at any point in your life, man, that's the special, you know, part of our relationship. You know, I love that, brother.

[Co-host Nick]

I love that so much.

And I would love for you to.

Just give some advice or a couple of words, a message to the person.

That'S listening and watching.

That's right there, that's like they're angry or upset or maybe they're like, I don't know if I can continue this path. Like, what's your message for that?

[Quincy Carter]

Listener reviewer Quincy well, it's a point that you get, you know, when you're in your addiction that you just gotta say to yourself, how can I continue to live like this? And if you're there, and most of us it takes, you know, sometimes it takes longer than others to get there. But it's only two ways that this addiction, man, that you have, option wise, you know, to get it under control, and that's one, you have to have someone outside of yourself, you know, to restore you to sanity. And the second one, you know, is, you know, you gotta dig deep in those steps and go through a great, you know, a great 12 step program. Whether it's a 12 step program or you just going to a meeting and getting a sponsor. But one of those two things could, has to happen. Because if it came, I mean, if it could come from us, you know, we had the power within side of us, we wouldn't have this addiction. We've been, wouldn't be taking ourselves through hell. Who wants to do that? But that's one or two things, man. You've got to get with God. And some people, you know, we don't understand how we, we can get with a person where bad things have happened. Well, you have to have some kind of higher power outside yourself, no matter what. For me is God, you know, and you know what I'm talking about when I say that and I mean that. But, but yeah, and you gotta have those 12 steps, you know, up under your belt and really go through a thorough 12 step.

[Co-host Nick]

Yeah, I love it, Quincy.

And one of the things that I'm.

I admire about you, I'm most proud of, of you, is how you now give back, right?

You know, on Make Unplugged, I talk.

About your because, right, that thing that's deeper than your why. Like your real purpose to me is your because. And I just love the fact, man, that you share with youths, you're out in the community, you're coaching, and you're.

Staying busy by making an impact, man.

So what's Quincy's because today? Like, what's that mission, that purpose for you today, man?

[Quincy Carter]

It's because, you know, Mick, God gave me grace, man. I'm getting emotional, dude. He gave me a second chance, man. And, and, and I just thank him so much. Mick, you know, we browse over the addiction, but I know what it was like being in that extended state, getting picked up, you know, making that call to Hollywood, man, and he's giving me life, he's giving it back to me. I never thought I would actually be telling my whole life story of missed opportunities and having joy about it, to be able to tell somebody else and help them. And then coming from where I came from, you know, coming out of Mountain park, you know, on Custer Avenue and getting there with the Cubs, and God gave me an opportunity with Georgia and Dallas, even the jets, and then to see it come full circle. Mick, you have your struggles and then you can get out here and help people regardless of what you've been through and knowing you accomplished some things that a lot of people want to accomplish, you know, but how do you get them there? You know, what can you tell them? How can you help them? And then my biggest gift is I can point them to God and I can show them, you know, no matter what mistakes I've made, me being upset with God, you know, at a point, Job did too. And they took everything from Job, but I never disowned him. I know how powerful he is. And then to pick me back up on my feet, Nick. And that's all I can do to give back to him, man. You know, Nick is. Some days, man, I should have been dead, but I'm here. And so I'm gonna do everything I can, you know, to give back to his people. Because I know what he's done for me, man. You got me. You got me, dude.

[Co-host Nick]

Look, but, but it's that story, it's that message.

Why, you know, when I opened and said one of the greatest speakers of our generation today with the best message is Quincy Carter, man, like everybody, I don't care what your organization is, what your association is, Quincy's story, his message is so powerful that. And we're just getting a glimpse, right? Like I spent a few hours with Quincy and was just mesmerized by everything. Like, his story is so powerful. Like, everyone should definitely reach out and.

Just have Quincy come speak, have Quincy come talk, have Quincy mentor.

Because you all know I believe in the power of mentorship. So Quincy, man, just love the fact.

That you took some time out of.

Your schedule to share a glimpse into the story. I think it's something, you know, maybe we have a Mick Unplugged series with Quincy Carter where you just break down stuff for people, man, because there's so much that you have to offer. Where can people follow you, find you?

And then what's Quincy have going on.

Now, outside of coaching?

[Quincy Carter]

Outside of coaching, Mick, right now I've got my foundation that I started here a couple years ago. We were on a mission to advocate for safe, drug free communities. We do that through speaking engagements, camps, clinics. We got a Thanksgiving, you know, feed the hungry deal coming up here in a minute. We have a back to school special and we're just going to continue to add to that. A golf tournament is down the line here. And then also we want to, you know, give it, get into a little celebrity bowling, an, I mean annual celebrity bowling deal every year. So. So I'm doing that and really busy with that. I'VE got my own quarterback school. I'm mentoring quarterbacks. And then Mick, man, just giving where I can, you know, really. But yeah, you can find me on. Well, I'm old school with it, Mick. I'm probably getting my Facebook out first. But it's Quincy Lavon Carter on Facebook. And then also you can reach out for my foundation. Is what the Quincy Carter Foundation. Sorry about that. I was about to give you my. That's the Quincy Carter Foundation. And then for. For camps and training kids, it's Quincy Carter17.com. It's both of my websites is the Quincy Carter Foundation.com the Quincy Carter17.com. And then also the quickest way to get to me because I'm still old school. Is that Quincy Lavon Carter on Facebook.

[Co-host Nick]

There it is. I'll make sure that we have links to all of that in the description, in the show notes. I'm gonna make sure socially, I'm posting about some of those things too. Quincy, brother, I'm honored to call you a brother, to call you a friend.

And more importantly, man, and I'm gonna.

Tell you this for the first time. I'm honored to call you an inspiration in my life, Quincy. So I just wanna thank you for the things that you do that go unseen brother. Because it helps me, just so you know.

[Quincy Carter]

Well, man, I wanna thank you too, Mick. And thank you for being a friend also, man, you know, so you can only really have these conversations with the people you really feel. And, man, your spirit is special, man. So you continue being great and. Yeah, and I'm gonna just be quiet now.

[Co-host Nick]

I got you, man. So for the listeners and viewers, Quincy.

And I about to have a series.

We're gonna work that out. We're gonna have the Mick and Quincy Hour, like once a month, once every other month or whatever. Because I love this dude so much and the world needs of Quincy Carter. So Quincy, again, thank you, brother.

[Quincy Carter]

Oh, thank you, man. God bless you too, Mick.

[Co-host Nick]

You got it. For the listeners and reviewers, remember your because is your superpower. Go unleash it.

[Mick (Podcast Host)]

Thank you for tuning in to Mick Unplugged. Keep pushing your limits, embracing your purpose and chasing greatness. Until next time, stay unstoppable.

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