Transform Anxiety into Creative Fuel: Insights from Josh Pais

Summary

Podcast Summary: Mick Unplugged – “Transform Anxiety into Creative Fuel: Insights from Josh Pais”

Host: Mick Hunt
Guest: Josh Pais
Date: December 22, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of Mick Unplugged dives deep into the transformative power of anxiety and fear—how these oft-misunderstood emotions can be converted into creative energy, presence, and true impact. Host Mick Hunt is joined by renowned actor, coach, and author Josh Pais, most famous for being a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle and now the creator of Committed Impulse, a training program focused on unlocking authentic personal and creative power. Through candid stories, actionable advice, and direct exercises, Josh shares his journey from navigating Hollywood’s stress to helping thousands unleash creativity through embracing—not resisting—their inner storms.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Discovering Your “Because”: The Power Behind Purpose

• Mick’s Signature Question: Mick invites Josh to articulate his “because”—the driving force deeper than “why.”—[03:29]
  • Josh’s Response:
    “My because is to have people get out of listening to how screwed up they are… get people out of listening to how they're not good enough… because I want people to access their aliveness, their creativity, their playfulness, and really access what they have to offer the world…” — Josh Pais [04:02]
  • Josh’s passion lies in liberating others from cycles of self-doubt and instilling the courage to share their unique gifts.

From Stage Fright to Self-Mastery: Josh’s Acting Origins and Hollywood Lessons

• Josh recalls telling his physicist father he wanted to be an actor and his early realization that character creation, even dark roles, can help people see themselves and grow. [05:45]

  • Shared an anecdote about his dad (who worked with Einstein) initially dismissing his ambitions as “the stupidest thing”—only to offer support after hearing Josh’s higher intent.
  • Josh’s first major film role was with Robert De Niro in “Jacknife,” which taught him the necessity of true presence and connection rather than performing outwardly for recognition. [07:48]

    “He pulled me in... from like an amateur... to two people talking to each other. That was a profound lesson—that it's just you and that other person.” — Josh Pais [08:11]

• On Hollywood Competitiveness: Instead of competing with others, focus on bringing out your own honest, spontaneous self.

  “The notion of competing with another person is just an abstract notion... all I can do is be my best.” — Josh Pais [11:48]

  • Rejection is inherent; the healthiest response is to feel the pain, clear the slate, and approach the next opportunity openly. Guarding against hurt can lead to self-armoring and inauthenticity.

Committed Impulse: Transforming Anxiety and Fear into Powerful Fuel

• Mick highlights Josh’s current work with Committed Impulse, emphasizing its real-world relevance, especially in normalizing emotions like fear and anxiety for both men and women. [17:29]

  • Josh shares his own struggles with overwhelming anxiety and self-doubt early in his career. [19:05]

  “I had so many thoughts in my head: ‘I can't do this... I've made a mistake...’ It was just disastrous auditions.” — Josh Pais [19:05]

• Scientific & Personal Insight: Inspired by his physicist father, Josh reframed emotions as atomic vibrations—natural energetic phenomena within the body.

  “We've all been so immersed in a myth, which is that this is a good thing to feel and this is a bad thing... we are designed... to feel all these different emotions... when I just felt the actual sensation... that started to become creative fuel.” — Josh Pais [21:52]

  • Instead of judging or resisting anxiety, feel the energy physically and use it in your work; it ceases to be an adversary and becomes fuel for creativity and connection.

• Symptoms and Suppression: Ignoring anxiety doesn’t erase it; it gets trapped in the body, manifesting as tightness or pain. Authenticity is honoring these feelings, not denying them. [23:31]

  “If you ignore it, we're not ignoring it—we're just suppressing it and pushing it into a part of our body... it's all emotion.” — Josh Pais [23:31]

Riding the Wave: Practical Application for Leaders and Creators

• In any high-stakes situation—leadership, pitching, performance—your body naturally vibrates more. This isn’t a flaw but a signal of engagement and readiness. [25:42]
  • Strategies:
    • Practice feeling sensations throughout the day
    • In high-pressure moments, stay connected with your audience, use your breath, and let the energy fuel your expression instead of trying to “calm down”
    • Don’t mistake high vibration (nerves, excitement) for unreadiness

  “As you extend out into the world, vibration increases... and it's all good. What we feel—is all good.” — Josh Pais [29:25]

  • Even nervousness signals that you care and are alive in the moment. [31:29]

    “It's when I'm very calm that it's like... oh, crap, I have no idea what's going on...” — Mick Hunt [31:53]

“I’m Back”: Returning to Presence (From Josh’s New Book)

• Josh introduces a practical tool from his book “Lose Your Mind: The Path to Creative Invincibility”: The “I’m Back” practice. [34:54]

  • When you catch yourself lost in mental drama, say “I’m back,” connect with the present, breathe, and feel your body.

  “As soon as you realize your mind just grabbed you... in my classes I have people say, ‘I'm back.’ And that is just training yourself to return to what is real.” — Josh Pais [34:54]

  • The more you practice, the longer you can stay present; life expands from there.

• Book Offer: Mick offers to buy the first 20 listeners who message him “I’m back” a copy of Josh’s book, plus 10 more for his own friends and family. [37:07]

  “I want to make sure I purchase those. But ‘I'm back.’ Message me, 20 people, I've got you.” — Mick Hunt [37:52]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Josh's Purpose Statement:
  “My because is to have people get out of listening to how screwed up they are... because I want people to access their aliveness, their creativity, their playfulness...” [04:02]
• On Acting with De Niro:
  “He pulled me in... to where it's just you and that other person. That was a profound lesson.” [08:11]
• On Rejection:
  “When there's a rejection... it's really key to feel it, like a bee sting, feel the hurt... and then clear the slate and be open as you can for the next...” [12:54]
• On Handling Anxiety:
  “... we've all been so immersed in a myth, which is that this is a good thing to feel and this is a bad thing... when I just felt the actual sensation... that started to become creative fuel.” [21:52]
• On Presence & “I’m Back”:
  “As soon as you realize your mind just grabbed you... say ‘I'm back.’ And that is training yourself to return to what is real.” [34:54]
• Mick’s Call to Listeners:
  “First 20 people that message me ‘I'm back’... I’m going to purchase a copy of the book...” [37:52]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:29 – Mick asks Josh for his “because”
• 04:02 – Josh articulates his purpose
• 05:45 – Josh reflects on “being different” and his original mission as an actor
• 07:48 – First acting experience with Robert De Niro and key lessons on presence
• 10:26 – On the competitiveness of Hollywood and healthy internal competition
• 12:54 – Lessons on handling rejection and keeping one’s heart open
• 19:05 – Josh discusses his personal battle with anxiety and how he transformed it
• 21:52 – Emotions as creative energy, not obstacles
• 23:31 – The dangers of emotional suppression; physical tolls
• 25:42 – “Riding the wave” of vibration in practical, high-stress scenarios
• 29:25 – Accepting vibration and using it for performance and leadership
• 34:54 – “I’m Back”: The key presence-building technique from Josh’s book
• 37:52 – Book giveaway offer and closing thoughts

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Conclusion

This episode offers both inspiration and tools for anyone looking to harness fear, anxiety, and nerves—transforming them into energy and creative fire. Josh Pais distills decades of stage, screen, and teaching wisdom into accessible concepts and exercises that are relevant for every leader, creator, and individual striving for authenticity and fulfillment. If you want to dive deeper, Josh’s book and Committed Impulse are recommended next steps.

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Further Resources:

• Josh Pais’s book: Lose Your Mind: The Path to Creative Invincibility
• Committed Impulse courses and materials
• Contact Mick Hunt for the listener book giveaway ([see timestamp: 37:52])

Memorable Takeaway:
“Your because is your superpower. Go unleash it.” — Mick Hunt [38:34]

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

I'm good, I'm good. Better now after that intro.

[B]

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[A]

Okay. Yeah, we had a little glitch to get us going, but, yeah, it just. Just bonded us. Yeah.

[B]

There you go. Josh, man, again, huge fan of you, of all the body of work that you've done. I mean, the things that you're doing now, I can honestly say I'm really passionate about. And we're going to get into that in this episode, man, but just honored to have you on, man. Your body of work is literally something that others can't say they've done, man. Like, I just. I want to give you your flowers while you're here, Josh.

[A]

Thank you, man. I really appreciate that. I really appreciate that.

[B]

You know, I always ask my guest about something that I call your because, that thing that's deeper than your why. Like, if I were to say, josh, what's your why? You tell me. And then I say, well, why are they your why? And you'd usually start that sentence with, well, because, A, B and C. I care about the because. So if I were to say, Josh, all the crazy, cool things that you're doing to. To impact society, to give the betterment of people. What's your because? What's your purpose to today?

[A]

My because is to have people get out of listening to how screwed up they are, to get people out of listening to how they're not good enough, out of listening to how that person wronged me and spinning in mental dramas. And because I want people to access their aliveness, their creativity, their playfulness, and really access what they have to offer the world, whether it's, you know, cooking a hamburger or solving, you know, a major scientific breakthrough that would handle global warming. Like, whatever it is, it's whatever that person hat wants to express is in them to bring forward. That's. That's where my. That's where my passion lies. And everything that I do, I love that, man.

[B]

Like, and. And hearing that, like. Like, warms my heart because, you know, I'm just gonna say it and go there. With your background, the things that you've done, a lot of people don't have that because. Cause.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like. And I don't mean this in a bad way when I talk about Hollywood at all, but people don't understand the grind of Hollywood, right, And the competitiveness of Hollywood. And so a lot of times it's. It's a me, me, me, because it has to be me, me, me. And you're the complete opposite of that. When did you realize that this was your mission, that this was your purpose. Like, when did you say, oh, I'm different?

[A]

I mean, I remember telling my dad that I wanted to be an actor. And, and he was a, A physicist, you know, a kind of a well known theoretical physicist. And, and he said, and we, we went, we went away for the weekend. We were in upstate New York. And, and he said, you know, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. And he, and he said, and he said, but, like, why? And I may have been the first time I really articulated it, but I just said that by creating different characters, even characters that are really dark or really elevated, that it's going to make the world better. Even if someone can see like a dark side in a character and if they have that in themselves, like, maybe they'll be like, yeah, you know, I, I have that too, you know, and. And it's also one of the powers of acting, of watching a movie, of watching theater when it's good, it. The audience sees all their stories cease to exist. Like an audience comes to a performance hoping that the actors will engage them so much that they will leave their life and they'll enter another world. And that, that's. There's something really beautiful about, you know, about that. And so that's, you know, I told him that and he was like, he was like, okay, I'll pay for some.

[B]

Acting classes, you know, and then you kind of took over the world. Right? So, so talk to us a little bit about. You take acting classes and then you get your first role. Like, what was that moment like for Josh?

[A]

I mean, the first, the first movie I ever did was a movie called Jackknife, and it was with Robert De Niro, who was, you know, especially for a young actor at that time, it was like he's any. Not that he's not still, but just a God of this art form.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And. And I, I remember prior to that, I had done theater in little East Village basements, you know, where there was hard, you know, there were maybe 12 people in the audience and the director was like, always speak loud enough so that the back row hears you. But, you know, and there were often boilers running, you know, so we had to speak over that. And so I got this, you know, I auditioned, I got this movie, and we do a rehearsal with me and Dinero in front of the whole crew, just so they can see how to light the scene. And so he says his line to me and then I say my line to him like so loud so that everybody, like the people making coffee 50ft away could hear me, you know, and then he just spoke right to me, and then I spoke to everybody. And slowly he started pulling me in to going from like an amateur and a professor, you know, and a master, to like two people talking to each other. Like he. He pulled me in. And that was. Seems obvious, but that was just a profound lesson that of film, that it's just you and that other person. And it was very simple, but it was a big learning lesson. And. And I feel like. I feel like, you know, that I'm such a student of this art form. Like every job I'm learning, I try to learn, you know, I'm just trying to learn something. And so much of this craft is unlearning is like getting out of your way, knowing how to step into the unknown. Because if. When actors step into the unknown and create in that moment, that's what engages an audience. And the trap is to come in preset of how you're going to do something and then do it. And it's like selling, you know, yesterday's bread, you know, it's just. Nobody's interested in that.

[B]

Right. Right. Talk to us, to the listeners and viewers. You know, I talked earlier about the competitiveness of Hollywood. Talk to us a little bit about that because, you know, I have friends and I've had guests on and I've got to learn. You know, you just think, oh, you go for a role and if they like you or you got enough resume, like, it's yours. You don't even have to audition. You just get those things. But tell us about the competitiveness of Hollywood.

[A]

Well, in a sense, I feel like I'm competing with myself of, like, how can I bring. Because the idea of competing with someone else for a role is just. It doesn't make any sense almost because.

[B]

You don't physically compete.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, it's not like if we put us both in the room. Right. Battled, like that would be. But it's really like, how can I bring and a part of myself so honestly and so fully and so spontaneously so that I'm not operating out of my mind, but I'm operating from my gut, from my core, whatever that is, so that it's spontaneous. And if I can do that, I feel like it's a win.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, yeah. I mean, on some ex. To some level, it's like all I can do is be my best. But I. The notion of competing with another person is just an abstract notion in that Sense. Because I'm just trying to do my best. They're doing their best, and. And then the creators have a vision, and assuming I do my best, that person does their best. If one of us has fits the vision, then they're going to get the job. No matter how brilliant I was, if this other person was also brilliant and fits some vision, they're going to get the role. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I heard a funny story a couple of months ago just on how you can nail an audition, but then you're like 3 inches too tall or 3 inches too short when it comes to, like, the overall casting. And I was like, what?

[A]

Yes, yes. It's just, you have to be a little crazy, you know, to go into this and, you know, and it's. The thing with rejection is that I tr. When you get rejected. And this really applies to everyone. When, when there's a rejection that happens, you don't get something that you really wanted. It's really key to feel it, like a bee sting, feel the hurt, feel the, you know, if you have to curse, whatever, feel it and then clear the slate and be open as you can for the next. What. Whatever it is that you're going to do. And I've seen so many people, incredibly talented people, have a series of rejections and they start to armor up and they start to go into situations, hiding on some, protecting themselves and, and not letting people see them because they, you know, and so it's so key to.

[B]

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[A]

And then it's and and and it may not and it's not going to be pleasant and then it's done and then you open your heart up again and and and experiment.

[B]

No I I love that. And that's to me almost like the perfect segue to committed impulse. And it's it's what I follow you most now for and and I've given your your site, your material to several of my colleagues, to my peers, to my family.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Because you talk about something that I think is not just relevant but we need to talk about it right? Like you talk a lot about fear and anxiety and I think a lot of times for and I'm just going to say Us as men, like, we don't know we're allowed to have those emotions.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

And one of the things that I've learned from you is that, you know, our brain, the neuroscience of our brain, its first priority is to keep us safe. Right. Like, our brain is built to keep us safe. And so these emotions that we have usually are there because the brain is saying, we're not safe. We're not safe. So let's get anxious. Or we perceive things as anxiety.

[A]

Yeah. And contract and withdraw.

[B]

Right, Right. So talk to us about one, why it's important for us to start having these conversations. And this, I don't mean just as men. I just mean even as adults, that when we're having anxiety, it's okay to talk about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But there's things we can do to correct it when we have fear. It's natural.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then there's some things to do about it. So when I want to applaud you for. For bringing that to the forefront today, because it's needed. But two, I want to talk about why you decided it was important for us to do so.

[A]

You know, I went to. I went to acting school, thanks to my dad, and. And I. Then I returned to New York, where I grew up, and I started auditioning, and I had so much fear, I had so much nervousness, I had so much anxiety. I had so many thoughts in my head of like, I'm. I can't do this. I've made a mistake. What am I going to do? So much. And it was just disastrous auditions because I would just go in there and be. You know, I couldn't. My whole system was jumbled. And if I can tell just a quick story about my dad, he was a theoretical physicist who worked with Einstein and Niels Bohr and Oppenheimer and all those guys. And when I was a little kid, I asked him about what his job was, and he's. And I was sitting next to a table. You may have heard this, I've told this many times, but I was sitting next to a table, and he said. And I said, what is your job? And he said, you see that table? I said, yes. Do you see your knee? Yes. He said, the smallest part of that table and the smallest part of your knee are the same things, atoms. And he said, that's what I explore, the building blocks of the universe. So I reflected on that story, that incident that happened when I was six, when I was, you know, in this panic of, like, can I even be an actor? And I started to Think, well, if my body is made out of atoms, then emotions must somehow be integrated with atoms because it's all happening in this structure. And so I started experimenting, feeling the actual sensation of anxiety, of fear, of nervousness, say nervousness. It was often like a pulsation energy, you know, behind my rib cage, you know, increased, heart pounding. But when I just felt the actual sensation or anxiety, like a swirling energy in my body, a little bit out of control energy. But when I just felt it without the judgment and, and the stigma and what we've. We've all been so immersed in a myth, which is that this is a good thing to feel and this is a bad thing to feel. And that's, that's what we have to undo because we are designed, it's in our DNA, to feel all these different emotions. And so by just me feeling the frequency, the energetic pattern, I wasn't. I was still feeling it, but I was. I was actually really feeling it as opposed to identifying it and then trying to suppress it. And then that became. That started to become creative fuel. So regardless of what I was feeling, I could create with it as opposed to push it away, hold, hold it as bad, pretend it wasn't there, and then try to work, you know, while I'm trying to hide something.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that really opened up, you know, so much for me. And really, I. People started asking me to teach, you know, years ago. It wasn't my intent, but the more we. We have to welcome every sensation. None of it is bad if we can get that. All it is is a frequency. It's just an energetic pattern. And it's not good. And it's not bad when you really feel it. It might be intense, but you can withstand it. And. And if we feel what's there, it will shift to something else and something else and something else.

[B]

I love that. And speaking of feeling it in that shift, what are some signs, what are some visible signs or some feeling signs, some physical signs that people ignore that they shouldn't ignore when we talk about fear and anxiety?

[A]

Well, if we're feeling, we've never culturally learned to increase our tolerance for living in a human body. And living in a human body is living in a system that's vibrating. We've come, you know, we've come to call those vibrations this emotion or that emotion. And we have to know, if we ignore it, we're not ignoring it. We're just suppressing it and pushing it into a part of our body. And over time, that part part of our body is going to get tight and then it's going to get painful, and then it's going to be like a knot and it's all emotion. It's just been. I'm not feeling that because I've got to be, you know, whatever, a powerful man or a powerful woman and.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And that's. I don't want to show weakness. But the other thing is that when anyone rides the sensations that are there, they are almighty. Even nervousness, even fear. If you just like feel that charge, all it is is a charge. It's magnificent. It's so authentic. And it just looks like power because you're honoring your humanity in that moment.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. You know, you. You hit on it a little bit earlier. And one of the things that I really took a ton of notes on when following you is you talk about riding the wave. Right. You challenge us to ride the wave. And so for people that are listening or watching, how do we ride the wave in the moment? Right. Like I might be in a boardroom meeting.

[A]

Right? Right.

[B]

If I'm a leader or I might be doing a pitch, if I'm an entrepreneur or if I'm an actor or comedian, I might be going on stage. And so that emotion that, that vibration is going to be there. I love that vibration, by the way. How do I write it and why is it important to write it?

[A]

Well, first, I just want to say that when anybody in any of those situations that you mentioned, I call it putting your ass on the line. You know, you're standing up in a boardroom, you're giving a pitch, you're a lawyer doing a closing argument, whatever it is, you're going on a date, whatever it might be.

[B]

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[A]

Any of those situations. It's natural that the body is going to increase in vibration as we extend further out into the world, we're going to vibrate more. And that doesn't mean that you're not ready. Like, a lot of people are like, oh, I, I'm feeling this. So I'm not professional. No, it just, this is what happens to the human system. As you extend out, vibration increases. And it's really a matter of practicing not only in that high pressure situation, but practicing throughout the day of just feeling what's there and welcoming it. And then when it increases in those high pressure situations, stay connected to your audience. See who's there. As you're feeling this, very often we start to feel it and then it's, oh, no, we suppress it. As soon as we suppress it, we go into our head and our head tells us that we suck and it's not going well. Or we feel the charge, but we stay with our audience, we breathe and we use that as fuel to give our pitch. We use it as fuel to do our closing argument. And if we can look at it as our system is giving us energy for this task and that it's all good. Like, that's my message. It's like what we feel. It's all good. I'm not talking about, you know, a harsh situation or I'm just talking about the, you know, the range of things that our body generates if we can hold it as all good. Because this, you know, I, A lot of times in my classes, I'll say, in a hundred years from now, you're going to be floating around and you're going to be like, oh, anxiety. I remember anxiety. Oh, that was so cool, you know.

[B]

No, I love it, man. Because through you, I also realized that, like, our vibrations are telling us stories, right? Or giving us signals. Like, yeah, you know, we call it nervousness. Like, if I'm going on stage to deliver a keynote, I kind of want that nervousness. Or I don't feel right. Like, it's almost unnatural for me. Because you're right, it's energy, it's positive. Like, I need that.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I know I'm going to nail it. It's when I'm very calm that it's like, oh, crap, I have no idea what's going on or it doesn't feel good or.

[A]

And let me ask you, how did you make that transition? Because I, I would imagine early on that nervousness might have been like, oh, no. But at some point, like, how did you welcome it and use it?

[B]

Yeah. Because I realized that it was one telling me to take a deep breath and just pause in the Moment and then two, that energy was more just excitability. It wasn't what I considered nerves. It was anticipation. It was the energy that I needed to make sure I was focused on the moments. And so you helped me understand that. That, hey, write it because it's probably good. And like I told you, I got to a point now where I need it. I need that feeling where I don't feel right. And, you know, same thing with the relationships, right? It's like when you get butterflies around that person, that special person, like that's supposed to be there.

[A]

Like, that's a great.

[B]

Help me, right? It's helped me understand a lot. So I owe you, bro.

[A]

Oh, man. Thank you. Thank you so much. Yes, sir.

[B]

Absolutely, absolutely. So, you know, you've been gracious with your time, but what else do you have going on? Like, one, I'm going to send everyone to committed Impulse. Like, we're gonna make sure we send people there because there's much, much, much more that you offer and that you have there from a coaching.

[A]

I just happen to have this here, which is my book, which, yes, came out recently. It's called Lose youe Mind, the Path to Creative Invincibility. And that's, you know, the past year and a half has really been. My focus is really putting everything that we're talking about and a lot more into the book so that it's not just ideas, but there's exercises, there's different kinds of meditations that you can get. Even with the hardcover book, with the QR code, it's also an audible. And I feel like this is my life's work. Like, what. You know, you asked about my. Because it's all in this book.

[B]

And so that was gonna be my final segue, going from the website to the book. Because you do give. It's almost like a manual, a workbook of tips of strategies. In Lose youe Mind, talk to us, highlight one or two that you think are critically important that the book really goes into. Because I want everybody that's listening, that's watching to go get a copy of the book. And I'm going to have something cool for you in a moment, too. But. But what are a couple of things that are in this book that everybody needs to know?

[A]

One thing is there are four access points to Presence. And the key one, I can go over all four, but maybe I'll just for time, just touch on one of the key ones, which is there's a period when your mind takes and all the book is how to get out of. So you're not listening to this nonsense all the time. And you may be in a situation and all of a sudden your. Your mind has caught you and you're in some kind of a mental drama, or you're thinking about later, or you think about what happened before and you're completely left what's in front of you as soon as that happens. Well, first of all, there's a period of time that you don't know you've left. Like, you're just like. And then as soon as you realize that your mind just grabbed you. In my classes, I have people say, I'm back. And that is just training yourself to return to what is real. Because this is the same crap day in, day out. And as soon as soon as it starts, I'm back. Connect with what's in front of you, increase your breathing, connect to your body. And then as soon as your mind gets you again, I'm back. And the more that you practice that in the beginning, it might be shocking because you'll be, I'm back. I'm back. I'm back.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But by simply practicing, practicing this, and there's exercises like you said all throughout the book, the window of not being caught up in your mind starts to expand and life becomes an adventure. You have access to your creativity. You have access to whatever it is you want to do in the world, as opposed to listening to how you can. So. And how you can't is not accurate. But that's one of the things that our mind will always drop down.

[B]

I'm writing that down.

[A]

Yeah, it's like, back. I'm back. Yes.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. So here's what I want to do, Josh, because I know this book is impacting lives right now, and I do this for books that I love. So the first 20 people that message me, whether it's social media or if you have my email, if you have my number, first 20 people that message me, I'm back. Because I want to make sure that they were paying attention. I'm going to purchase a copy of the book for you.

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

20 copies I'm purchasing for my listeners. I'm going to purchase 10 for myself because I have some family members that.

[A]

I think, thank you.

[B]

This book is going to be dynamic for so 30 copies in total. Total. I want to make sure I purchase those. But I'm back.

[A]

I'm back.

[B]

Message me, 20 people. I've got you.

[A]

Oh, man, that's beautiful. That, that. Thank you so much. That, that means the world to me, really.

[B]

You got it. Well, Josh, again, I know how busy you are, man. I'm honored to spend some time with you.

[A]

Likewise.

[B]

I'd love to. I love to have you back on so we can go deeper into.

[A]

Let's do it into this. Yeah.

[B]

Because I'm. I'm totally dialed in on you, bro. Like, totally dialed in.

[A]

I. Let me know. Let me know. I'm game. We can go into any area and. Yeah, for sure.

[B]

Let's do it. Well, Josh, I appreciate you, brother, more than you know. Thank you for taking the time to spend with us.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

You got it. And to all the viewers and listeners, remember your because is your superpower. Go unleash it. That's another powerful conversation on Mick Unplugged. If this episode moved you, and I'm sure it did, follow the show wherever you listen. Share it with someone who needs that spark and leave a review so more people can find there. Because I'm Rudy Rush. And until next time, stay driven, stay focused, and stay unplugged. And Doug, here we have the Limu Emu in its natural habitat, helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual. Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug.

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