C (6:24)

That's amazing. So, you know, I wrote down some notes as you were talking. And I want to go to the very beginning though, right? Because on Mick Unplugged, we talk about your because that thing that's deeper than your why, right? The reason that makes you do what you do, the purpose that you have. And so for. For Dr. Joy Kong, like, what's your because, like, what's your passion? I heard it. Right? I heard it. But. But I want you to articulate it. What's your purpose? What's your because for. For doing this.

B (6:53)

It bothers me when people suffer unnecessarily. So that's what bothers me. Suffering is all around. It's part of human experience. But if you don't have to suffer and you didn't know that you didn't have to suffer and just keep suffering, to me, that's a travesty, right? Like, I can't stand it. So I think the idea of reducing suffering started with my mom, who always had back pain as a little kid. I was giving her massages and I just felt this, you know, this thing in me, this energy that wanting to heal, wanting her to do better. And somehow I feel like I can infused my healing thoughts into her back and get her to do better. You Know, this is like this thing in me. So that drive of reducing suffering, right? You don't have to suffer. That's what's really powerful. And the problem with current conventional medicine is that people are not giving that kind of regenerative or healing power to the patients. So people. I call it like. Like cliffhanging medicine. Like, people are hanging by the nails. They're hanging on. So it's like, okay, I have diabetes or I have whatever, kidney disease. So I'm just hanging on here. My doctor is helping me to hang on this cliff. There's nothing the doctor is doing to drag you, to move you to. Away from the cliff. The doctor is just helping you to hang better. So that is not something that's exciting or fulfilling to do as a healer, right? I. If all I'm doing is helping people to hang on the cliff better, it's a very unsatisfying and depressing way of practicing medicine. So if I can find something where I can just grab the patient by the arm, drag them off the cliff right here, come stand on your two feet. That you can feel good. You don't have to be living this constant fear and deterioration. And I'm giving you something that's just preventing you from falling. I don't want to do that. So when I encountered stem cells, even though I was a psychiatrist, right, specializing in brain health, but I'm interested in all health. However, I wasn't trained in orthopedics, in kidneys, in the lung, in the heart. Right. In autoimmune, you know, immunology. Yet I was producing results. I was yanking all these people off their cliffs, no matter what conditions they had. All of a sudden it was like, wow, am I a powerful healer or what? I knew it wasn't me. It was the cells. So if I can just somehow put the cells in the body, the cells somehow will find their. Find their way. That's why it's so simple, so elegant. This is one of the most elegant treatments. It really doesn't. It almost, I feel like, doesn't take a lot. Well, there is still a lot of skills, but it's so simple. And that's the beauty. I love simplicity. I love elegance. Because I think it doesn't have to be really complicated. The intelligence itself is complicated. So what you do doesn't have to be complicated. If the intelligence can make you. How complicated do you think it is? It's unfathomable, unfathomably complicated. And that's what we're tapping into.

A (10:00)

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B (10:13)

I participate in restaurants for a limited time.

C (10:15)

Love it. So, Dr. Joy, huge fan of yours. Huge. Follow yours again. I hear all the passion that you're talking about. Was there one moment when you decided, I'm going all in? Because here's what I know about Dr. Joy and I'm going to reference some things that I know throughout this conversation. But you don't dabble, right? Like Dr. Joy, you go one foot in front of the other until you are sprinting all in. Right. So what was that moment that said I'm going all in on stem cell?

B (10:46)

When I heard what it can do. So it's at first is a shock. So when that first doctor who told me that he used umbilical cord stem cells to treat an autistic kid and he was producing results. This is an anesthesiologist, trained anesthesiologist, and nothing. Right. I was trained in autism, you know, because I was a psychiatrist. That's my domain. He was not trained yet. He was producing results with one simple IV treatment of stem cells. He was producing these results that I couldn't imagine producing in years. So what, How. How is he able to do that? Like, to me, first, it is shock. It's like, I can't believe there's something like that available. And I didn't know and I was slaving away, you know, throwing drugs at kids and making them go through all these therapies. When I can do something so simple, it's like, gosh, what have I been missing? So that was the first one. And then when I heard just a little bit more about the science. So at first it's the maybe, you know, you wonder if you just caught hype. And then I need to investigate, is this a hype or is this solid science? And once I started to study and read articles after articles after articles, I couldn't believe this is such a active area of research from around the world. And then the evidence of different conditions were just, you know, it was astounding. It was what they studied, this they didn't. I mean, that's what I presented. I might my class, all these different organ systems, all these studies. So once I saw the evidence, so from clinical manifestation, you know, like, like the, the real improvement in patients to the clinical and scientific evidence, once I saw the evidence is there, and then the real patient results. And this one lady, she told me that how her fingers were, her swelling were going down. She had rheumatoid arthritis within a few hours after the stem cell treatment that she could put on a ring her grandma gave her that she couldn't use for a couple years. And then she had increased energy, concentration, sex drive, and, and it was like, whoa, you are vibrant. Somehow these cells can do that. And there's nothing in medicine that's going to make you feel right and conventional medicine that's going to give you that kind of vibrancy. That's when I was hooked, and that's when I thought, you know, I will be a fool, you know, for my life as a healer to not learn about this, not tap into this, and I'll be irresponsible not to try to bring this to other people.

C (13:21)

No, I love that. And, you know, I'm a huge believer in stem cell, but everyone kind of is, or I shouldn't say everyone. You saw some people that are curious, right? Some people that are like, well, that sounds great, but how is that really, truly happening? And I want to talk through the scenario that you just gave about arthritis. What, what particularly is stem cell treatment and therapy doing for those that have rheumatoid arthritis or arthritis? And why should folks be jumping and running to go do this now? Because I wholeheartedly believe in it, but I want to hear from you, like, for that scenario of, of arthritis, like, why is stem cells so powerful that other treatments aren't help?

B (14:07)

Isaac. Rheumatologists spend so much of their time trying to diagnose and differentiate different types of autoimmune diseases, and there are over 100 of those. But truth be told, I think they're, they're very similar diseases. That's. Which is why so many autoimmune diseases, there's no name for it. Because doctors say, well, I know you have something autoimmune going on. I just, I can't put you in a category. Why? Because the body is so complex, if you have something going wrong that your body is attacking itself. That's what autoimmune diseases is. You're attacking itself. But everybody's organ systems are built differently. Some people have a weaker heart, some people have a weaker, you know, circulation systems. Some people have a, you know, weaker kidneys. So things are manifesting differently in different people. But it's really the same underlying mechanism, which is immune dysregulation. Your own immune system is out of whack. It's Completely gone berserk, attacking yourself. So it's supposed to be your friend helping you heal, and now it's decided to attack on itself. And stem cell therapy has so much evidence on autoimmune issues because what it does is that it modulates the immune system. It will boost your immune system, your, when your immune system is too depleted and too underactive, and it will calm it down when it's overactive and going kind of, you know, haywire. So for autoimmune disease, that's one of the foundations of stem cell therapy. It's like the nut, you know, bread and butter. You know, I think orthopedics, there are a lot, a lot of examples. Everyone knows, oh, this elite athlete, you know, went somewhere and you know, fix his knee or ankle. But that, that's one aspect. And autoimmune is another aspect, that stem cell therapy just shines because it modulates the immune system. It's one of the most powerful things to calm inflammation.

C (16:04)

So I want to go where you were, you were going. One of the biggest myths I think is, well, yeah, stem therapy, stem cell therapy works for athletes or it's affordable for athletes and Hollywood stars. Talk to the everyday person, Joy, how affordable is it? And again, why is it, in my mind, stem cell is more for everyone, right? Not just the super elitist or anything like that. So talk us through the cost of therapy. Is it something that medical insurance covers? How often are you getting the treatments and everything?

B (16:41)

Yeah, first of all, I would say 99.9% of the insurance companies would not cover at this point. They're all locked into the drug model, but some obscure and more fringe insurance type of organizations. And for example, there's one called Samaritan Ministries, it's kind of co op situation that they do cover. I think smaller companies realize that if they cover something that may cost 15, $20,000 now it's going to s them $500, $500,000 or a million dollars, you know, 20 years down the line. So in the end, they end up saving themselves a lot of money. So as an OR organization, it actually works better for the patients and works better for them. So, so things are catching on. However, right now, you know what I call stem cell therapy? Affordable. It's affordable to a lot of Americans and even for common people. I've treated people who are teachers, who are, you know, just blue collar workers. So they have, let's say you have multiple sclerosis or you have rheumatoid arthritis and you can't work anymore. And it's going to cost you 15, $20,000 to get you back to work, to actually give you life back, give you a quality of life instead of declining or just hanging on the cliff for the rest of your life is actually has the hope of reversing a condition so that you can live a good life. And how much is that worth? So a lot of people actually recognize the worth of it. They are willing to borrow some money, maybe sell some, you know, stuff that may not be necessary, and they will get the money. So 15, $20,000, which is probably the most amount people will pay for a single therapy at our clinic. It may, there's a range. The range is a little crazy. I'll just give you the range. It's $5,000 to $70,000. If you, the, the, the range of the stem cell therapy. I just heard somebody was, you know, getting a $70,000 treatment, not even getting human stem cells, and, and then actually doing a lot worse, which is a whole other subject. I don't think you need to use animal stem cells. You, you, you really should stick with human cells. But the, the therapy, just to put things in perspective, just because you have insurance, you still have to make co pays, right? So it's not like the insurance is free. It's not like you don't have to pay co pays and how much is it worth? In the end you're going to spend a lot of time and money arguing with insurance companies. And I've seen that all the time. And people have their life and resources drained away with insurance companies. So also to put into perspectives, anyone is not convinced, just watch Unnatural Selection on Netflix is about gene therapy. So this is about what happens when big pharma get into a newer form of medicine which is changing gene expression or. And I think they want to get into stem cell therapy as well at some point. If they get stem cells, trust me, the cost is going to go up. Right now the cost is lower when the big pharma gets in because how much does it cost to have a drug go to market? It costs an average of $2.1 billion. So who do you think had that kind of money to take some kind of a therapeutic agent through animal trials, multiple human trials, go through all the hoops with FDA and do the marketing and then try to recover their money? So it costs $2.1 billion. You don't think they're going to try to recruit that money from you? They will. So Unnatural selection is a really good example. I, I didn't know what they were going to talk about how much treatment is in one therapy is $750,000 for a one injection. So that's what happens when big pharma gets in the game, right. So that's, that's how much they want to charge to recruit their investment. That's that, that's a strategy, right. There's always a very much a business. So just put, put things in perspective. And what's funny was that in that documentary, that patient, I think with muscular dystrophy, he was not getting any benefit. He'd got a lot of nausea, headache and you know, lot lots of bad side effects and no benefit. And I was thinking, gosh, if you had just come to my clinic and got a 15, $20,000 treatment, I can get almost, okay, 90% of my patients will see benefits in their symptoms. So there's such a good chance he's going to see something, he's going to see some improvement because of how the cells work. The cells have this global. So not just go to fix one gene, we're actually targeting the anti inflammatory aspect of the body. Balance your immune system, break out breaking down scar tissue, rejuvenating your tissue by telling your local stem cells to repair the damaged tissue by forming new cells. And we can, there's anti cancer properties, there's tissue rescuing, a lot of tissue rescuing, you know, telling cells that are damaged that they don't have to die. And there's fresh mitochondria transfer abilities giving your body more energy to perform any biological function and also angiogenic forming new blood vessels to supply your, your tissue with nutrients. So if I know the cells can do all that which the gene therapy cannot. Right? Gene therapy is very single minded. If I can do all that, that's why 90% of people are seeing benefits. You know, we don't have to talk about. I just put out a video about why some people may not see benefit. There are all kinds of other potential reasons including toxicity, infection, et cetera. But majority of people will see benefits and at a cost that actually is, is endurable. Right. It's, it's doable. So I think you really need to have, you know, put things in perspective.

A (22:33)

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B (22:47)

I participate in restaurants for a limited time.

C (22:49)

No, I agree. And I want to double down on what you're Saying, too. Because I literally had this discussion, it was about four months ago, right before the holidays, with one of my really good friends talking about stem cell treatment. And he's like, you know, the. The cost. I don't know if it. If it covers the benefit of doing it. And it was around the 15, $20,000 mark. And I said, okay. And I almost said his name. So I'm not going to say his name, but you know who I'm talking about, because I know you're listening. The conversation was, okay, think about all the money you're spending. Forget the doctor's appointments, but in the prescribed medicine that you're getting, right? Think about all the money that you're spending there forever just to manage the pain. It doesn't even. It just. It just manages it. Like, it doesn't make it better, right? It just manages it one time. You can pay this. And potentially, because I know there's no guarantees, right? But potentially, you could actually not only be pain free, but your body's gonna start to get better. Like, your body's going to start healing and. And the things that you're having. And so that one. Cause compared to the next five, 10, 15 years, if you get to live that long with the pain that you have, you're going to spend far more than that, like, much more than that, just to manage pain. And that's what people don't understand. Like, again, I'm not saying that I'm against doctors because I love doctors and everything that they DO, and physicians. Dr. Joy might disagree, but I'm going to say a lot of things that are.

B (24:19)

I love my colleagues. Many are suffering, but.

C (24:22)

Yeah, but a lot of things are meant to manage pain, not eliminate or heal. And there's a big difference in cost in that piece.

B (24:31)

Exactly. Yeah. So how much is your life worth? You know that I always think so. I was just talking with somebody, you know, if somebody says I can, you know, perform this treatment and get you to have less anxiety, less brain fog and enjoy your life more, you can, you know, go out, enjoy food. You know, how much. How much is that worth? Right? So, you know, people really have. So instead, if you don't want to, you know, have that kind of benefit and you want to just hang on to the traditional medicine, which a lot of people do. And I see that happen all the day, all the time. It's not like tragedy does not happen to humans all the time. People make those decisions. We've seen that throughout the whole Covid. You know, the whole, you know, the Disaster that how many people are making decisions that may not be the most beneficial for them, but nonetheless they decided to do that. And I've seen that even with therapy, I've seen people who are taking traditional medications that have all these drastic side effects that could, you know, including death, then they're happy with because it's FDA approved, because their doctor said so. But when they come to doing stem cell therapy, they get all scared. They said, oh, you know what it's going to do about the people's DNA in my body? And they're not seeing all the evidence. A mountain of evidence on stem cell therapy probably trumps all the evidence on any, any single drug that is approved by the fda. And if stem cell therapy can end up triggering one of the serious side effects of any of these drugs, it will be shut down. FDA will say it's a dangerous therapy, will be shut down. Yet FDA is approving all those drugs all the time. So for people to think because it's FDA approved, so I'm comfortable taking it because my doctor recommended to me. And that is just. You're not thinking clearly, you're not thinking for yourself.

C (26:22)

Totally agree, totally agree. Dr. Joy, like really quick, I want to talk through what are some other conditions or things that stem cell therapy can improve, right? We've talked about rheumatoid arthritis, but I know there's other things that you can use stem cell therapy for. What are some of those things?

B (26:42)

I definitely want to preface it just so I don't get anybody in trouble here, you know, unless we're talking about using stem cell therapy to help reconstitute your entire blood system, right? All your white blood cells, red blood cells, or you're talking about acute graft versus host reaction. These are the two, as far as I know, the FDA indications for stem cell therapy. So everything else will be off label use. So they're not FDA indicated. So I can't say, never mind, you know, have a medicines practice, maybe more than half is practice by off label use. But however, I cannot make any claims that this can treat any condition. However we treat patients, right? I'm a physician, I treat patients who happen to have various conditions. And what have I seen that people have benefited from? You know, people with what kind of conditions that come to me. I've had people with, you know, just from head to toe, you know, just look from head to toe. Let's look at traumatic brain injury, very difficult condition. All these athletes, all the veterans, majority of them probably have traumatic brain injury. If you go through basic training, you have, you shoot guns and the recoil is going to give you some kind of traumatic brain injury. Any sports. So it's very prevalent. And even I have traumatic brain injury. I don't even remember that I did anything. But when I did a brain scan, it showed that I had traumatic brain injury. So it's very prevalent. So I've seen it improving that particular condition dramatically. Even though. So conventional medicine really had nothing to offer. Literally nothing. Rest, try to eat healthy, don't be stressed. I mean, that's, that's a mantra that we were taught as medical students. That's what you tell people when you try to be a little bit more holistic. You tell them to take it easy, don't stress and eat healthy and dish.

C (28:34)

Drink a lot of water.

B (28:34)

That's all we knew. We literally. They could cover that strategy within five minutes of medical school. Right? That's your strategy. Just keep, just repeat that mantra and you're covering your whole preventative medicine methods. So anyhow, so brain conditions, we've helped people with Parkinson's with als, with Alzheimer's, with ms, multiple sclerosis, with even Lyme disease that have brain manifestations. So you know that. But migraines, incredible evidence, and we've seen great results. Help reverse a patient, literally stop the patient's symptom when with trigeminal neuralgia, when she was having 30 to 50 episodes after the fifth COVID vaccine booster, she started having these, you know, pretty much right away, these just unrelenting trigonic trigeminal neuralgia. That's a very severe pain in the facial nerve and. Yeah, I mean, trigeminal nerve, but facial pain, so to the point where she wanted to kill herself. So drastic improvement. So a lot of these have not been studied, right? There's no research study because there may not be enough patients, may not be enough funding to do a particular study. So that's why what we're doing on the front line is so important that we're accumulating this first line. Yes, it's anecdotal, but tell me in an anecdotal success of using your medication to help a person of, you know, this magnitude of conditions, even you can't even give me an anecdote, right? Give me an Alzheimer's medication that can reverse cognitive impairment to the point where what stem cell therapy can do, right, From a completely degenerated clock, clock join, you know, unrecognizable clock to actually a decent clock with the minute and hour arm indicated, you know, A, A pretty reasonable clock, you know, show me a medication you have that can do that. So, so that's the brain and the autoimmune conditions like we mentioned. It's, it's, it's a huge category. So whether or not it's rheumatoid arthritis or lupus or inflammatory bowel disease, like Crohn's disease, the, the ulcerative colitis or sarcoidosis or other, other type of, like a skin manifestations, dermatitis or psoriasis, and then there are all kinds of chemical sensitivities. Again, is, is manifestation of your immune, you know, going. Immune system going out of whack. And. And then we go to internal organs. So for heart, for. So post heart attack, repair of the heart, regaining function, improving ejection fraction atherosclerosis, sclerosis. Right. People with blocked arteries helping to improve the, you know, basically the flow of the blood and reduce high blood pressure. So you can literally reduce plaque. So there's research showing the aortic root clearing up, cleaning up the plaques. Yeah, it's, it's, you know, seeing is believing. Right. You see, you can see in the images, it literally help break down this plaque tissue and clearing up the artery wall and helping you to form healthier lining of the arteries. And we have people with different kinds of, you know, if we're, you know, talking about the brain, you can also talk about the peripheral lymphories, peripheral neurological system, nervous system, the perofal neuropathy. It can be very helpful. That's an inflammatory condition, that's a systemic condition. And we have seen incredible results with neuropathy in conventional medicine. All they offer is B12 and then there's really not much that they have to offer. So stem cell therapy, you know, we get seeing patients ditching pain or being able to use hands that they haven't been used for months. So, you know, really, really beautiful results. And then, and then when you look at, so the cardiac issues, that, that can be very helpful. Lungs, I love treating the lungs. COPD patients getting people off oxygen of almost all COPD medications. I've seen people with lung injuries like we actually helped. I have a podcast on this. A 911 responder, a, you know, one of our veteran heroes, but was in the pit after 911 for eight months, got severe lung injury. He said half of his colleagues have died from this serious toxicity. People don't talk about the, the casualties of 911 goes way beyond what happened on that day. So all these people who are fighting, who are Trying to save lives, they end up losing their lives because of this. So this veteran, his name is Ron Pastino, he almost, he, he thought he was gonna, you know, didn't know how long he was gonna live. So. But with three stem cell treatment at our clinic, he was able to show in his CT scan his lung is cleared. I mean this is, this is the first 911 victim that actually was cleared of lung disease. So for the lungs. And we have other people clearing lung lesions of the lungs. I love because that's the first. But when you give some stem cells through the IV route, the first place they go to is the lungs, the liver, the heart and the spleen. So the lung is really well perfused. If you have problems, inflammation, injury and scarring in that area, a lot of cells are going to stay right there. Like oh my God, you're screaming. You know you're sending signals to tell me to stay here and start working. So let me start breaking down your tissue, starting to bring the immune system on board to remove the debris, remove the toxic stuff. And then telling your local stem cells to make more lung cells. Right? More lining of the lungs. So that's the lungs. And we've seen benefits in people with kidney disease preventing people from going on dialysis or even getting people off dialysis. That has happened. Not everybody, but we have seen that.

A (34:37)

Get the Angel REEF Special at McDonald's. Now let's break it down. My favorite barbecue sauce, American cheese, crispy bacon, pickles, onions and a sesame seed bun, of course. And don't forget the fries and a drink. Sound good?

B (34:51)

I participate in restaurants for a limited time.

C (34:53)

Yeah.

B (34:54)

And um. Liver. Liver cirrhosis. I give a liver cirrhosis patient who is the hospital in hospice. He was probably given a couple months to live with big ascites. Right. Swelling the stomach with lots of fluid and barely had energy to talk. I could barely hear him. And within a couple months, not only gaining his strength with swelling going down, actually swelling was going down within a few hours of the treatment, started to go down drastically. So there's all these different stages of healing with stem cell therapy. So the anti inflammatory effects can be very fast. And then within two months he went back to his provider, checked his liver was normal. So that was. There are some incredible. Yeah. And we had a young patient with progressive cholangitis. So that's the like a scarring and inflammation of the bile duct and his liver was shutting down. So he was on the liver transplant list. This is 17 year old boy. And we gave him I think was two stem cell treatment, and now he's off the liver transplant list. And it's just, just beautiful, right? So that's the liver and even reproductive system. We have seen people trying to get pregnant for a long time and couldn't. And then after a single stem cell treatment, you know, get pregnant. Not only pregnant, but, you know, healthy delivery of healthy baby. So there's research in animal research, they actually showed it can improve fertility in perimenopausal rats and getting their ovary to be bigger with more follicles secreting more of the estrogen, progesterone and more hormones. And, and then, and then with more pregnancies, little rats, I guess. So research is supporting that and I've seen that clinically as well. And then, and then, you know, some more obscure conditions. I've treated somebody with repeated testicular swelling and there's no research on them. Nobody's like, I'm going to do research on testicular swelling. Right. There's that. That's a little more on the French. You know, it's not diabetes, not, you know, a major condition. So it's going to be hard to find research data. So when I saw that patient, I didn't know if I was going to be able to help him because there's no data. But I told him what the cells can do, what we know the cells can do anti inflammatory, breaking down scar tissue and, and helping with immune regulation so that we can help, you know, prevent this repeated, possibly self attack. That's why there's all these repeated swelling. So lo and behold, he already lost one testicle because of the repeated swelling and infection. So the urologist, the conventional medicine doctor.

C (37:34)

Right.

B (37:34)

If I give you rounds of antibiotics. Still not helping. Let's just cut it off. So the urologist.

C (37:39)

Dr. Joy, a little sympathy here please, for my male listeners. You're hurting us a little bit.

B (37:45)

I'm sorry. Yeah, I know, I know. Yeah. So he, this time around, this is a few years later, the other testicle is going off doing the same things. And his urologist is just suggesting the same tactic. Let's cut that one off. So he came to me, he said, Dr. Kong, I don't want to lose this other one. So can you help me? Can you, can you help me? I said, I don't know, but it's really worth the try knowing what the cells can do. And incredibly, within a few months, all the nodules in his testicles were gone. Swelling was gone, that testicle was saved. Yeah. So that, so you know, that. That's the. You know, we're talking about some of the organs, right? So the brain. I didn't even mention autism. We do see a lot of autism kids. Um, I've seen some really good benefits. And then we, of course, musculoskeletal. We inject to help with different joint repair and different tendon, you know, muscle healing and. And, you know, back. You know, people. A lot of people with back problems, so we do a lot of that, too. You can do it for people with just regeneration. You can inject for erectile dysfunction, right? You can inject directly into the penis or just even through IV.

C (38:55)

Dr. Choi.

B (38:56)

Ah, yeah.

C (38:58)

My. My, my mental pain. That's. That's all right. Sounds like it hurts.

B (39:02)

Casual about this. Okay.

C (39:03)

Sounds like it hurts. That's all.

B (39:05)

No, it doesn't hurt. Doesn't hurt me. But it really does. It looks scary, but it's amazing. Would you numb the area? But really, is actually the needle so tiny? It actually doesn't. I mean, I think everybody, you know, their eyes go big when they look at you. You know, about to put that needle in. I tell them to please look away and just take a deep breath. It really actually is not bad at all. They could barely feel it.

C (39:31)

So you say.

B (39:32)

So you say, I've seen that. And they say, oh, it's not as bad as I thought at all. Yeah, but you can also inject into the vagina and even clitoris. Like when you say, oh, my God, inject. You know, as a female, that's when I. My eyes go big, right? You sure? Yeah, inject. But apparently, yes, you can numb a little bit, and you can inject right into the areas. Actually, not as bad as you think. You.

C (39:54)

You hear it all here on MC Unplugged.

B (39:56)

We're.

C (39:56)

We're here saving. We're saving lives and marriages today with Dr. Joy.

B (40:00)

I bet you the word clitoris has not come up on your podcast yet, has it?

C (40:05)

First time. First time. It might be last time. Yes, ma'am.

B (40:09)

And also you can do facial rejuvenation, so you can inject directly into the face. We've had people with lesions, like, lots of sun damage on the face, and it was pretty amazing what stem cells can do. Of course, hair restoration. Right? People with hair loss. And, you know, if you still have some hair follicles, then we can help. But if you completely. You have, you know, become completely bald and there's no hair. There's not. No follicles to work with, then it would be difficult. But if you have some. Some thin hair there. Then we can help.

C (40:41)

Wow. Dr. Joy does it all. Dr. Joy does it all. So I know you're amazingly busy and you graced us with some time today. Again, one of my dear friends, an amazing follow on Instagram. I think we were messaging there, and you were like, hey, you know I wrote a book, right? And I was like, oh, let me show you. I've been listening to your book for the past three weeks. And you were like, oh, like, really? So, yeah, amazing book, by the way. I'll make sure we leave descriptions and links to that book. But what all does Dr. Joy.

B (41:11)

I'll just mention the name of the book here so your audience know it's called Tiger of Beijing. Yeah. If people want to know, it has nothing to do with medicine. But if you want a good book that's like a novel that's actually from real life, because it's my memoir about how I got to America and how I survived the first two years. That's a good one to read. But that give you a glimpse. I think it just. It gives you a glimpse about determination, which, you know, to this day is that kind of resilience and, you know, determination and not giving up kind of attitude that's driving me in what I'm doing now because, yeah, I'm facing oppositions and facing things that are not friendly to me. Right. But I know what I'm doing is the right thing to do. I'm bringing people healing, and I can't think of anything that's. That's more rewarding and that's more. More positive for the world.

C (42:06)

Absolutely, absolutely. Dr. Joy Kong, where can people find and follow you?

B (42:11)

I think one of the best places is my YouTube channel because it's full of good information about stem cell therapy or anything holistic when it comes to enhancing a person's health. Because I have a podcast, the Dr. Joy Khan podcast. So that's also posted on YouTube and also all the podcast channels. But they can also just look at my. I have a website just about me, so joycong mdmail.com so that has the information on everything I'm doing, including my clinic in Los Angeles called Tara Health. My. I founded a stem cell company that provides stem cells to doctors all around the country. And then there's an academy I founded where I teach doctors and my book. And a cream I created called Char Omni, which is a stencil cream that's 100% natural. So everything about me you can find on joycon. MD.

C (43:07)

Com, there we go. The amazing Dr. Joy Kong. We appreciate you so much, Joy. It's an honor to have you on again. One of my favorite people in the world. I'll make sure that all the links of everything that Dr. Joy mentioned are in the show notes and description. Dr. Kahn, thank you so much.

B (43:26)

Thank you so much, Mick. It's such a fun episode and it's really great chatting with you.

C (43:31)

Absolutely. And for all the viewers and listeners, remember your because is your superpower. Go unleash it.

B (43:42)

Thank you for tuning in to Mick Unplugged. Keep pushing your limits, embracing your purpose and chasing big greatness. Until next time, stay unstoppable.

A (43:53)

Get the Angel REEF Special at McDonald's. Now let's break it down. My favorite barbecue sauce, American cheese, crispy bacon, pickles, onions and a sesame seed bun, of course. And don't forget the fries and a drink. Sound good?

B (44:07)

I participate in restaurants for a limited time.