Fraud in Minnesota Unraveled by YouTuber - Mike Force Podcast

Mike Force Podcast — “Fraud in Minnesota Unraveled by YouTuber”

Host: Mike Glover
Date: December 29, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode centers on massive alleged welfare and childcare fraud within Minnesota—particularly the Somali-American community in Minneapolis—uncovered by independent YouTuber Nick Shirley. Mike Glover analyzes Shirley’s investigation that exposed how hundreds of millions in federal and state subsidies are siphoned off through false claims at daycare centers, with mainstream media and politicians largely ignoring or downplaying the scandal. Glover also explores broader issues of government accountability, assimilation, and the tension between social safety nets and systemic abuse.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Scale of the Fraud

Estimated Loss: Reports peg the fraud between $9–12 billion, "the entire GDP of Somalia in one state." ([01:28])
Nick Shirley’s Investigation:
- Shirley visited numerous childcare centers in Minneapolis, many of which claimed to serve up to 120 children each for large government subsidies—“tens of millions of dollars per facility over the course of years.”
- Most centers were empty; Shirley was denied entry and met with suspicion when asking to enroll a child.
- In one day, Shirley identified $111 million in questionable claims. ([05:34])
“He exposed $111 million worth of fraud in one single day. Again, the national media doesn’t care. Because if they reported on the facts... they don’t actually do journalism.” — Mike Glover ([04:56])

Mechanisms of Abuse

Daycare centers falsely claim rosters of children to receive subsidies (up to $1.9 million per year for 120 “phantom” kids).
When confronted, facilities refuse entry and become defensive.
Potential links raised between false subsidy funds, cash kickbacks, and even money being funneled back to Somalia (with possible links to terrorist organizations like Al Shabaab, though not definitively proven in this episode).

Media and Political Response

National and local media accused of intentionally downplaying or ignoring the fraud, instead providing superficial coverage.
Politicians, when approached (per Nick Shirley’s video), “deflect, run away, or blame federal administration changes,” without confronting the core problem.
"She [politician] talks a little bit about deflecting the blame on Trump because it’s healthcare fraud, but doesn’t address it at all." — Mike Glover ([09:18])

Demographics & Welfare Participation

Minnesota’s Somali ancestry population: 107,000–108,000. Of these, 87% are naturalized US citizens.
High government assistance rates: 84% reported receiving SNAP, Medicaid, or other public assistance.
“So overall, the estimate is 84% of estimated individuals reporting Somali ancestry receive SNAP and/or Medicaid and/or public assistance. They’re basically on welfare. 84%.” — Mike Glover ([16:00])

Cultural Commentary & Personal Reflection

Glover contrasts his Korean-American upbringing—where government welfare was a last resort—with what he perceives as widespread, normalized dependence and system abuse.
“My mom refused to accept handouts from the American government, refusing. The culture here is, you’re going to use it or you’re going to lose it. And so they abuse the system.” ([18:24])

Law Enforcement & Legal Fallout

FBI has initiated raids on suspect centers; DOJ described the Feeding Our Future scam as “the largest COVID-19 fraud scheme in the country.”
Defendants overwhelmingly of Somali descent; notable sentences and ongoing prosecutions cited.
“The DOJ released a press release… 78th defendant was charged in the Feeding Our Future case... Reuters reported on December 29, the FBI surged resources to Minnesota.” ([24:47])
Systemic vulnerability: “There’s low barriers to provide enrollment, minimal documentation, no check and balance. And that’s an issue.” ([28:32])

Broader Implications

Political inertia due to the Somali community’s perceived “block vote;” reluctance to address issues due to fear of being branded racist.
“Because when you have 108,000 Somalis in the state, it’s a huge block... If you come out and you say anything, because they’ll just call you racist, well then what do you do? You placate...” ([22:19])
Glover calls for accountability and reform, noting that current investigations are “too little, too late.”

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Investigative Journalism Failure:
“If you actually reported on the truth of what’s going on, like Nick Shirley did... then you would be exposing all of this fraud.” — Mike Glover ([05:11])
On Facility Fraud:
“Every single location claims a specific amount, from 60 to 120 children because they get tens of thousands of dollars of subsidies per child per year... And guess what? As you would expect, no children.” - Mike Glover ([06:21])
On Assimilation and Community Norms:
“My mom used to tell me, hey, you’re not Korean, you’re an American first... They didn’t segregate themselves into their own population wearing burkas, further oppressing their culture and their community and their women. They assimilated, they maintained some of the culture... but they were Americans and that’s the point.” ([13:01])
On Political Motivations & Media Silence:
“The national media, completely blowing [it] off. Local media don’t want to report because they don’t want to be pigeonholed... He’s not even talking about it. You know why? Because when you have 108,000 Somalis in the state, it’s a huge block because they block vote, they are segregated from everybody else.” ([21:25])
On Systemic Vulnerabilities:
“Low barriers to provide enrollment, minimal documentation, no check and balance. And that’s an issue... The DOJ alleges recruitment inside the community plus cash kickbacks. Of course. That’s how it works. Fake rosters and invoices and feeding our future fake client notes.” ([28:32])

Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment & Highlight | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------| | 02:09 | Scope of Minnesota fraud compared to Somali GDP | | 04:56 | Nick Shirley’s findings & media indifference | | 06:21 | Empty “childcare” centers and denied entry | | 09:18 | Politician’s evasive response | | 13:01 | Glover’s take on good assimilation vs. isolation | | 16:00 | Welfare participation statistics for MN Somalis | | 18:24 | Glover’s personal welfare experience vs. culture | | 21:25 | Block voting and political silence | | 24:47 | DOJ/FBI updates on “Feeding Our Future” case | | 28:32 | System vulnerabilities and fake records | | 33:42 | Call for accountability and public awareness |

Conclusion & Call To Action

Glover ends with a challenge for listeners to consider how such fraud and government inaction may affect their own communities. He sees Minnesota as a warning, not an isolated incident.

“What say you? Is this going on in your own backyard? What do you think about this as it unfolds and what do we do about it as Americans? That’s the broader question.” — Mike Glover ([34:40])

Summary Takeaway:
This episode delivers a fiery critique of systemic welfare fraud in Minnesota, difficult questions about integration, and intense frustration with political and media failures to address the issues—even as independent citizen journalists like Nick Shirley do the real investigative work. The story is important not just for Minnesotans, but as a cautionary tale for the rest of the country.

Transcript

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Foreign. Hey, what's going on, guys? Welcome back to another episode of the Mike Force Podcast. Big shout out to Carnival, our title sponsor. Look, I don't get an affiliate kickback from this code that I give you MG10. You can use Eat Meat or MG10. I'll link them down below. I don't get an affiliate kickback, but they do support the channel and offset cost. Like this Baller Studio, which is actually my basement. Hey guys, I want to say big shout out to all the people listening to the Mike Force Podcast. If you're listening to me on YouTube, make sure you subscribe. Also, it's available for audio downloads on Spotify. So let's talk about Somalia, AKA Minneapolis, Minnesota. So there's a lot of drama going on in this state. 9 billion to 12 billion is the estimate. By the way, the GDP of Somalia is 12 billion. So the estimate is anywhere from 9 to the GDP of Somalia in one state. The fraud runs deep in every single facet of federal and state funding. And Nick Shirley, a YouTuber journalist who has done more reporting on this, more relevant reporting on this than all of the national media and local media combined, just reported it via a YouTube video that only has I just did a reacts on. It only has 1.4 million views. It should have a hundred million views because that's what's going on in your own backyard. We're just not paying attention. And for sure corrupt politicians in your own backyard. Like, man, the amount of corruption in Utah is through the roof. Through the roof. I've exposed some of it. Friends of mine have exposed some of it. I'm living some of it. But it pales in comparison via the fraud, waste and abuse by the state of Minnesota and especially the city of Minneapolis. Right now there's 100,000 Somalians in Somalis in the state. Actually Minnesota Somali descent populations 107 to 108. According to a Census Bureau ACS report, between 2024 and 2025, 84% of that population, 84% of the individuals reporting Somali ancestry received SNAP benefits. Nick Shirley goes on this little journey through the area, visiting childcare centers in that he goes to a center called a leering center where you leer, you know, if you want to leer your ABCs, 1, 2, 3s, they misspelled learning. It's leering. That sign was paid for by the taxpayers, including federal taxpayers. Me and you paid for that. And especially in the state. And he exposed $111 million worth of fraud in one single day. Again, the national media doesn't care. Because if they reported on the facts, if they actually did a, you know, it's called investigative journalism because they do like a three minute snippet on their priority investigation. That's non political, obviously, but they don't actually do journalism. It's a talking head talking into a camera, reading a corporate teleprompt that's following the script. So if you actually reported on the truth of what's going on, like Nick Shirley did, which I'll link that in the description down below that particular video, then you would be exposing all of this fraud. He goes around and he visits these specific locations. Every single location claims a specific amount, from 60 to 120 children because they get tens of thousands of dollars of subsidies per child per year and it equals tens of millions of of dollars per facility over the course of years. He goes to all these establishments and guess what? As you would expect, no children. In fact, he goes and he says, hey, I got a child. I want to register them, I want to take a look. They don't even let him in. They shut the door on him. And then when he wants to get in to talk to people, they start attacking him. Not physically, but they start saying, why are you here? You can't be here. And he's like, I want to ask questions. Where are the kids? Now if you claim as a child care facility120 children, you get $1.9 million of subsidies in one year. One year. This is an example from this particular show. You have 120 kids that are on the books. And now those kids are on the books as an auditor, concerned parent, responsible citizen. And you show up. What should be done about that? Well, he just shows up and he said, where are the kids? Are they trafficked? Are they being funneled into Somalia to fight for Al Shabaab? Nobody can answer the question. So even as an investigator, from a law enforcement perspective, you have the justification to be like, hey, what are the kids at? What's going on? All of these places are getting away with it. He exposes in one day $111 million of fraud. He actually goes at the end of the episode, which is again on my reacts on Mike Glover Channel, he goes into the a political session and they're talking about this issue and they say it's nonpartisan and it has to do with fraud and taxpayers are concerned. Guess who's not covering this local media. And then when he talks to the politician, she runs. She says, I don't want to talk about this. She talks a little bit about deflecting the blame on Trump because it's health care fraud, but doesn't address it at all. So what do we do in our country? You know, I grew up American. My mom used to tell me, hey, you're not Korean, you're an American first. Yeah. Your, your heritage, your culture, your DNA is Korean and you should be proud of that. And I am. But I'm an American first. All my aunts and my mom and my grandmother all came here legally, started businesses, assimilated married American husbands and they didn't segregate themselves into their own population wearing burkas, further oppressing their culture in their community and their women. They assimilated, they maintained some of the culture, the food especially, which is bomb. If you've never had Korean barbecue on, I highly recommend it. But they were Americans and that's the point. So let me read you some statistics about Minnesota. According to statistics, Minnesota Somali descendant population is 107, 108,000. In the Twin Cities metro area it's 83,000. In Hennepin county it's 50,000. Minneapolis it's 33,000. So these are not illegal immigrants. They are Somali descent or Somali born ancestry. Now 87% of foreign born Somalis are naturalized US citizens. Now a lot of this has to do with State Department programs. I've actually been involved in some with the State Department when I was in the military. As far as the understanding and the education on it, 58% of that population were born in the U.S. minnesota state fact check.org demographer provided ACS based estimates. 60% reported receiving SNAP benefits in 12 months. 78% reported having Medicaid as health insurance and 8% reported certain forms of public assistance including cash and cell phones. So overall the estimate is 84% of estimated individuals reporting Somali ancestry receive SNAP and or Medicaid and or public assistant. They're basically on welfare. 84%. So when are we as American citizens? A lot of these are American citizens going to say enough is enough? I mean one the fraud, waste and abuse. I've talked about it on this show before with SNAP benefits for example, where 20 plus percent of New York City is on it and you become dependent on that. You and why would you work, especially when you work for a healthcare provider or a child care leering center that's subsidizing you even more and paying you. Now the FBI recently, according to Nick Shirley on this particular episode four days prior, raided a whole bunch of these places. And Benny Johnson just released this a couple days ago that the FBI, via an insider, is looking into this really hardcore, and they're going to go after these guys. In fact, my hope is a lot of the places that he visited exposing the truth as journalists should do. The FBI does an investigation and looks into these places. So welfare has no single universal definition. Some analysis includes snap, Medicaid, school mills, housing, et cetera. When I grew up, my mom refused to be on any kind of welfare. Now, when I lived with my dad when I was really young in elementary school, we were below the poverty bracket based on my dad's income at the prison. It was a prison guard. You would think, like a prison guard would make a decent salary. We were below the poverty line, way below middle class. And I remember we did have some kind of SNAP benefits. I used to, for example, get two cocoa Rice Krispies, cereal bowls and two cartons of milk for a quarter. That was certainly subsidized. And I was thankful for that. I mean, not at the time, but I was thankful for that. Because looking back, my dad was in a tough situation. He was trying to work his way up through the ranks to get better pay for his family. He wasn't reckless with his spending. And then that helped us, like, clear the gap. And then we were able to get away from that. My mom refused it. I never had. I never had anything material in my life living with my mom because we were poor. My mom bought her first new car when I was 16 years old. I didn't have shoes one year. I was like in flip flops one year. Sometimes my aunt would buy me some nice shoes for Christmas or something like that. We didn't have nearly anything. We just had the necessities and we were happy because we were a happy family. I remember one Christmas, we didn't have a Christmas tree. My mom put up a little Christmas tree in my room, and we didn't have any presents. My mom's like, do you want presents? And I was like, mom, it doesn't matter to me. Like, and it honestly doesn't. Like, I don't want Christmas gifts. I like to give my kids Christmas gifts nowadays. But she said she felt bad. And so she goes to Toys R Us and she buys this little gun for a game. It's like this Nintendo thing. But I didn't have a game system to even use it. And I was like, mom, it's not a big deal. That's my mom trying her best but refusing to accept handouts from the American government, refusing. The culture here is, you're going to use it or you're going to lose it. And so they abuse the system. A high circulation figure in the current debate comes from a Immigration studies the CIS report where 54% of Somali headed households receive food stamps, 73% Medicaid and 81% some form of welfare with 89% for households with children. So the perspective here is why Americans distrust the government, local included and are super pissed off as I am. I mean in my reacts I was like out of control. Pissed off is because we work really hard, I bust my ass for my family and I don't want the handout. And you have 9 to 12 billion dollars in one state of fraud, waste and abuse that's not even being reported, being misidentified. And then you're playing politics because you don't want to address the actual problem. Tim Walls completely blowing this off. The national media, completely blowing off. Local media don't want to report because they don't want to be pigeonholed yet nothing's being done. He's not even talking about it. You know why? Because when you have 108,000 Somalis in the state, it's a huge block because they block vote, they are segregated from everybody else. I mean you have their women still wearing burkas, complete burkas, oppressing their own women, following Sharia law in their own households. And they block in segments. And you know who's supporting them? Democrats. Why? Because all the subsidies that are being pumped into them are then being returned and being donated through Act Blue. It's been reported. I'm not making this up. It's been reported. So how many Somalians are currently on SNAP as an example, as a benefit role? Administrative count is generally not published by ethnicity, national origin. Most official reporting is race based, geography based or program wide totals, not ancestry specific enrollments. So am I targeting Somalis in Minnesota? I am. Because it's obviously rampant in Minneapolis specifically. But there's a trend here, there's a pattern here. Because what happens is if you're a politician and you know that a block vote of a hundred thousand people aren't going to vote for you, if you come out and you say anything because they'll just call you racist, well then what do you do? You placate. You get on the tv, you eat local food, you break bread, you pretend like everything's cool because you want the votes to stay in power and then you turn a blind eye. So one of the politicians that was interviewed by Nick Shirley said we're not enabling anything. Okay? You're enabling. When you're not paying attention on purpose. When you turn a blind eye and you're not proactively going after fraud, wasting abuse in your own backyard, just like the federal government looking at USAID for the first time in decades, then you're not doing your job. You are facilitating fraud. And as an American who knows that my taxpaying dollars is federally subsidizing these systems, I'm pissed. I want accountability, and I hope that's what we're going to get. So the DOJ released a press release on November 24th. 78th, defendant was charged in the Feeding Our Future case, as the dog describes it, as the largest COVID 19 fraud scheme in the country. I think the estimate at the time was 6,789 billion. And that number could rise. Reuters reported. On December 29, the FBI surged resources to Minnesota. The administration fraud push has largely targeted the state's Somali immigrants. And most people charged in major cases are reported to be of Somali descent. That's verbatim from Reuters. You like how they put that spin on that? Let me read that again. Largely targeted the state Somali immigrants. No, they largely. They largely targeted fraud and identified that Somali descendant people were the majority of the fraud. The AP reported in mid-2025, one defendant, Abadzi Azay Shafi Farah, was sentenced to 28 years with restitution near $48 million. And prosecutors alleged the broader scheme stole hundreds of millions from the federal child nutrition program. We got the state of Utah doing SWAT hit hits and using my taxpayer dollars to go after people who are growing mushrooms in their basement for themselves. And we got this going on in our own backyard. Likely we're just not paying attention. Medicaid funding. There's a example case where the dog alleges one operator obtained $6 million in reimbursements using unqualified staff, inflated claims and cash kickbacks. Again, this is all happening in our own backyard. And if they never did the investigation proactively, like if law enforcement actually did their job in these local communities, they could have the biggest cases known to man. They could literally be on the news reporting that they are policing their own communities with the largest cases. But they're looking for a federal nexus because they're not doing anything in their own communities except for kicking Nick Shirley out of a building because he's doing real reporting. The fallout here is that these programs design vulnerabilities, likely intentionally. There's low barriers to provide enrollment, minimal documentation, no check and balance. And that's an issue. There's also Weak real time verification. And the Department of Justice explicitly notes this for HSS and describes analogous vulnerabilities in ics. The DOG alleges recruitment inside the community plus cash kickbacks. Of course. That's how it works. Fake rosters and invoices and feeding our future fake client notes. It's so funny. They're using the same Somali third world tactics to scheme people here in our country. The DOG describes proceeds spent on travel and overseas transfers and even linking some of this money getting back to fund Al Shabaab, obviously a terrorist organization. The second order of fall fallout is legitimate recipients get dragged into stricter controls. Look, I haven't seen one legitimate circumstance here, but if there is, obviously those guys are not able to do it if 98% of it is fraudulent. So let's outline this. Minnesota's Somali descent community is roughly 107 to 108. 33,000 in the metro areas or 83,000 in the metro areas. Minneapolis has roughly 33,000. There's a high participation in safety net programs in the Somali community. And look, if you need the help and you need the subsidy to get on your feet, what's the protocol for how long you could be on these systems? What's the protocol for how long you could be on this? Taking advantage of this loophole coincided with fraud, waste and abuse before somebody says, hey, this person's been on it for like 30 years, is an unproductive member of our society. Feeding our Future, which has 78 defendants. That, that list is going to grow, by the way, and then medicate programs, including autism, hss, ics. These are, these are. These programs are finally bringing some of these criminals to justice. But in my case, it's a little too late. The damage is already done and will continue to perpetuate as targeting, racism and all these words. In the Nick Shirley episode, which again, I've linked down in the description, there's one lady who's out in front of one of these daycares, a Caucasian lady, as usual, yelling, don't open ice. And she's recording them. And Nick Shirley's like, ma', am, I'm a YouTuber. Like, I'm just reporting on information. Don't you have a problem with, like, the fraud? Especially if they're saying, there, there's a hundred children here, there's no children here. Don't you have a problem? And she continues to yell it. You know why? Because they don't care if that dude was dressed in an Al Qaeda or Al Shabaab costume. She would probably be enabling him, taking him out to dinner. So this is a. I don't want to say microcosm because it's an example, because it's not micro, it's. It's macro. One of the largest fraud schemes in American history going on in our own backyard. Oh, by the way, Tim Walsh was almost the Vice President of the United States. Go figure. So what I'd like to see is this come to a town, city and state near you. I want this to happen in Salt Lake City. I see the corruption, I see the illegal immigration pushing up into my small town of 17,000 people. Here in Heber City, Utah. What say you? Is this going on in your own backyard? What do you think about this as it unfolds and what do we do about it as Americans? That's the broader question. I appreciate you guys looking forward to the reacts that's going to be released probably tomorrow or the next day. Make sure you subscribe to the channel and I appreciate all the support. Till next time. Peace out, guys.