Episode Summary

In this episode of Million Dollar Flip Flops, Rodric sits down with Len May, CEO and co-founder of EndoDNA, for a fascinating conversation about personalized health, the endocannabinoid system, and why healthcare should focus on prevention instead of symptoms.

Len explains how DNA, epigenetics, and biomarkers can help practitioners create more individualized wellness plans for patients. He shares why so many people are still being treated with a one-size-fits-all approach, and how genetics can act like a GPS to help people avoid the “potholes” that may be waiting for them down the road.

The conversation also dives into cannabis, terpenes, the endocannabinoid system, and how science can help people better understand what their body actually needs. This is a powerful episode about precision health, self-awareness, and building a future where people are treated as individuals rather than averages.

In This Episode, You’ll Learn

Why healthcare should be focused on prevention instead of symptom management
How DNA and genetics can help guide more personalized health decisions
What the endocannabinoid system is and why it matters
How cannabis, CBD, THC, and terpenes interact with the body
Why the same product can affect different people in very different ways
How genetic testing can help identify predispositions to adverse events
Why practitioners need better tools for precision wellness
How Len’s company is using AI and biomarkers to improve healthcare outcomes

Highlights & Timestamps

[00:00] Healthcare should be about prevention

Len opens with a powerful point: people should be treated as individuals, and healthcare should focus on preventing conditions rather than simply treating symptoms.

[01:00] Meet Len May and EndoDNA

Len shares what he does as CEO and co-founder of EndoDNA, a company focused on personalized health and wellness through DNA, epigenetics, and biomarkers.

[02:00] Genetics as a GPS for life

Len explains how genetics can help people understand their predispositions and avoid the “potholes” that can lead to health issues later.

[03:00] Can you buy the test direct?

Rodric asks whether people need to go through a practitioner, and Len explains how most of their tests are sold through healthcare providers, with one direct-to-consumer option tied to cannabis-related guidance.

[04:00] Cannabis stigma and why education matters

The conversation shifts into the difference between the plant, the stigma around cannabis, and the need for better public understanding.

[05:00] The endocannabinoid system

Len breaks down how the endocannabinoid system works, how it helps regulate balance in the body, and why it was such an important scientific discovery.

[06:00] Anandamide, 2-AG, and feeling balanced

Len explains the body’s own endocannabinoids and how they relate to mood, balance, and well-being.

[07:00] CBD, THC, and what your body may need

Rodric asks whether the test could help determine ideal ratios, and Len explains how the test looks at genetic predispositions, ratios, and potential responses.

[08:00] Stress, inflammation, and the FAAH gene

Len shares how certain genetic variations can affect how fast the body breaks down anandamide, which can influence inflammation, stress response, and discomfort.

[09:00] Matching cannabinoids and terpenes

Len explains how the test can suggest specific cannabinoid ratios and terpene profiles based on an individual’s genetics and needs.

[10:00] How the test helps people choose products

The discussion turns to how consumers can use the results to better identify which products are more aligned with their body and which ones to avoid.

[11:00] More than cannabis: the power of individualized wellness

Len explains that their broader mission goes beyond cannabis and into personalized wellness across multiple areas of health.

[12:00] The book break

Rodric shares a listener message about his book Million Dollar Flip Flops and the mission behind the show.

[13:00] Why plant medicine matters

Len and Rodric discuss why many natural medicines have been overlooked and how plant-based compounds often serve as the basis for modern pharmaceuticals.

[15:00] Where to find Len

Len shares his website and explains that he also creates music, writes books, and shares a daily “record of the day” from his vinyl collection.

[16:00] The next guest’s question

Len asks the next guest what they would tell themselves at 18 years old.

[17:00] What lights Len’s life up

Len reflects on the joy his daughter brings him and how life, music, and curiosity keep him energized.

[18:00] The bigger mission of EndoDNA

Len goes deeper into the company’s larger vision: using AI, genetics, and biomarkers to create precision health and wellness tools.

[19:00] Clinical trials and future expansion

He shares that the company is working on multiple clinical trials and expanding into more areas of personalized healthcare.

[20:00] Why pain is information

Len shares a powerful perspective on how people in the U.S. often rush to stop pain instead of understanding what it is trying to communicate.

[21:00] Rodric’s personal story with back pain

Rodric shares his own experience with back pain, surgery avoidance, yoga, and the mind-body connection, reinforcing the episode’s theme of prevention and self-awareness.

Notable Quotes

“Every one of us is an individual and we should be treated as individuals with our healthcare system.” – Len May

“Looking at your genetics is your GPS of life.” – Len May

“We should be looking at healthcare that is prevention of conditions, not sick care that is symptomatic focused.” – Len May

“The body is trying to tell you something when you feel pain.” – Len May

“Everybody’s an individual, which we know, and we should be treated that way.” – Len May

“We should be in partnership with our healthcare practitioners.” – Len May

Connect with Len May

🌐 Website

EndoDNA
http://endodna.com

📱 Social Media

LinkedIn
http://www.linkedin.com/in/lenmay

Connect with Rodric

🎙 Million Dollar Flip Flops Podcast

📖 Million Dollar Flip Flops

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