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Miracle Mentality with Tim Storey (Motivation, Self Help, and Mental Health)
The Power of Endurance: How to Push Past Limits and Achieve the Impossible | Charlie Engle | Motivation | E45
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Hello, my name is Tim Storey. Welcome to Miracle Mentality.
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Remember rooftops drawing spaceships on the ground.
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It's for the dreamers, the doers, the believers in something greater. In each episode, I'll invite you to rise above the mundane, to push past the messy and learn to live boldly in the miraculous. Every episode will have practical wisdom, spiritual insight, and my guests will explore what it takes to activate your miracle mindset. Remember to subscribe, follow and life. Welcome to the Miracle Mentality Podcast. I'm really enjoying hearing what you guys are liking about the program and here's what's new for me because we've only been doing the podcast so long is to meet people out on the street that are talking about how they are either listening or watching on YouTube and the rating so high as we continue to talk to you about this week after week. So as I always say, I want you guys to subscribe because it's a movement. Thank you for liking what we're doing, but also I want you to start adding more comments because how exciting is this? I want to read your name on the air. So give me a comment what you think about this amazing interview that I'm about to to do. Okay, so let me just read the bio of the Charlie Engel. So Charlie is a amazing guy and he has done things that I would not even dream about. I wouldn't even think about it. I wouldn't wake up on a Saturday and say, you know what? I think I'm going to become an ultra marathon runner. He's known for completing some of the most grueling races on the planet. I mean, races that go 135 miles through death Valley, extreme heat. But what he's done is he has turned his setbacks into comebacks. He's a person that understands addiction, getting through it, incarceration, getting through it, and talks about his discipline and his faith. And he's become a top, top communicator in the space that we live in. And a lot of people are learning from his story. Charlie Engel, good to have you on Miracle Mentality.
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Tim, thank you so much for that great introduction and I'm so happy to be here.
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Let's go to early Charlie, when you were a junior or senior in high school, what were you thinking of doing? Were you on the cross country team? Were you on the track team? What were you thinking about doing in life?
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Tim, that's a great question because I was on every team. I was at that point. Super quick step back. Divorced parents, they split. I Ended up moving in with my dad when I was a teenager, and he wanted me to play every sport. So inevitably, that's what I did. You know, an effort to explore, but also to make him happy. And I was the captain of a few teams. I was playing football and basketball and running track and student body president. And I. I made good grades, and I figured out that getting that type of positive feedback from my family and my community felt pretty good. And so I wasn't perfect by any means. I made some mistakes in high school, too, but, you know, I really worked hard to do all the right things.
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What was your campaign when you ran for student body president? So Charlie Engel is going to make your life better, even though you're only 17? I don't know. What was it?
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Yeah, you know, it's such a great question, Tim. Nobody's ever asked me that. I love it. So I went to a high school that was pretty much 50, 50 black and white. It was a very big high school in North Carolina. And the high school was one that we'd had some racial issues. It was in the 70s, and I think I had the advantage of being on sports teams. And so a lot of my teammates were black and people of color. And I had the chance to, you know, they knew me. And so my campaign was really just that. I'm here to listen. You know, let's be realistic. We're not going to get rid of homework. Let's not make promises that aren't going to happen. But with the right approach, we can actually make positive changes for our school. And I think people took that to heart.
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I like that. So you are already that type of a person, sensitive, cared about people. Right. And you were very aware, and I'm glad that you won. All right, so after high school, do you go to college or tell me what happens next.
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Yeah. So I went to college at University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill, and I was 17 when I went to college and turned 18 a couple months into my college career. And I thought my college career was going to be the same as my high school career. And, Tim, what I figured out when I got to college was I was incredibly average and that a whole lot of people in college, 4,000 other freshmen, had the same resume that I had, and I wasn't particularly special in the ways that I had been.
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You know what? I love that you are honest about that, because that is not a great discovery. It's like guys that were so great in college sports, and then they go to the NFL or the NBA. And they see how big these kids are, how fast they move. Right. And as you know, because we're both teachers, you can get intimidated, frustrated or motivated. Did you become intimidated, frustrated or motivated by all this?
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Man, I became motivated for sure. For sure. But I gotta tell you, I'm gonna be super transparent here. What I discovered unfortunately was that I was really good at something. I was the best at something. And that thing was drinking. And in 1980, in the state of North Carolina, at 18, you could still drink alcohol. And I got lost and I became that guy. As I like to say, I was an all American first team drinker. And that is not something to aspire to, but it just became who I was in college.
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Yeah. So before I get into that side of, you know, being a drinker, then it moves into addiction and gets you in some challenges later in life. What happens with the college experience? Do you finish at that college? What happens?
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I'm going to keep it brief, but so here's the thing. I got invited to walk on the football team at Carolina. And I was smart enough to go out and watch one practice before I went out there and I watched 300 pound guys run into each other and I'm like, okay, I think this is a bad idea. I actually went out, if you can believe it, for the basketball team at UNC Chapel Hill. And I made the JV basketball team, which a guy named Roy Williams was actually the coach of the JV team at that point. And Dean Smith was still the coach at Carolina. And being involved with the basketball program for a couple of years really, really kept me going. My grades were lousy, 2.1 or something like that. And I hung on. And by the time I. You could only play JV ball for two years. And when that ended, I stopped going to class and really I flunked out and I ended up leaving school after my junior year.
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Okay, I think that's important. So as you've been hearing, because my background is doctor of world religion, then I have a psychology side of myself is that, you know, you have these phases of Life. Birth to 20, stage one, 20 to 40, stage two. So already in the first stage, in your teens, you're starting to get distracted and detoured. Okay, when you're now going off that path, what's the feeling like? Do you recognize it? Are you still believing in yourself? Are you starting to give up on yourself? This is important for everybody that's listening because if they have not been through it and if they're not going through it, they probably have a child or grandchild that's going through it.
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Yeah. Internally, what I felt was desperation. And externally, what I showed was overcompensation. I became that guy who I achieved everything. I was the top salesperson everywhere I was. I worked incredibly hard to still look good, even though inside what I felt like was a pretender, you know, I felt like I didn't belong anywhere and that I was never really going to master anything. And it was all fake.
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Yes. Okay, so give me an area of success in business. And when that started and then when it started to dwindle, the success in the business side starts at about what age, really?
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When I left school, you know, I became a manager at a fitness club. So I knew fitness was something I liked, even though alcohol and drugs were already a significant part of my life at 21 years old. And, you know, what I discovered was that people connected with me. And I learned very early on that it wasn't about selling the product, it was about selling myself. And if people liked me, they would buy things from me. And I became very good at being whatever the other person wanted to see. If you came into my office with a Southern accent, then my Southern accent would come right out and we'd be talking about changing the oil in a pickup truck, you know, and. And if you came in in your coat and tie and you were C suite CEO, I could talk that talk, too. So I was a. A chameleon. I could pretty much morph into anything you wanted.
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Tell me a little bit about when these big companies hire you and you speak at these conferences, et cetera. What is a talk usually about? What's the subject matter? And give me two or three points from these talks.
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Wow, Love that question. You know, my job, and I mean, I mean this wholeheartedly when I go onto a stage and a lot of wealth groups, I speak to YPO and R360 and a lot of these kind of groups and sports teams. And my job is to cut right here and dump everything out and to be as vulnerable as I possibly can to. Because I believe and I have a feeling this resonates with you. You know, vulnerability invites vulnerability. So I tell people about my last binge as a drug addict. I tell them about being terrified that I'm not good enough to actually finish this race or that people are going to find me out as a pretender. That's my mission when I'm on the stage, is to remind others that we all have these vulnerabilities.
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So question to you when you talk about endurance. Do you think that some people are just wired for endurance or do you think it's learned behavior? Because, you know, we're living in the day of David Goggins, Jocko Willink, all these people talking about discipline, discipline, discipline. And I like both of those guys. Yeah, but do you think that you are wired with endurance or do you feel like you learned endurance?
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I do believe I'm wired with it. However, I also believe that endurance, just like resilience, is learned through doing hard things on purpose. Those guys are a little more focused on forcefully putting themselves into stress, and they're a little more like the drill sergeant mentality. I will admit I'm probably a more sensitive person in the sense that I really want to understand what makes me tick. I do the race so that I can get to the point where I want to quit, because I want to know what that feels like and I want to figure out how to get past that.
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Here's a question that I don't think many people would know to ask you in the space of what we call thought leaders, speakers, podcasters, book writers, coaches, executive coaches. So crowded. I remember back in the 80s when my mentor, Dr. Helen Mendez, who taught at USC, she said, Tim, I want to tell you there's something that's going to come called life coaching. This was her telling me this in the 80s. She is one of the pioneers of life coaching. Now you see millions of people calling themselves a life coach. So many people are trying to get on stages. Why do you think it is? And I hope you can just hit me with some honesty. Why do you think Charlie Engel continues to get invited, invited, invited, because you're doing quite well in this space. Why you?
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The answer that pops in my head, my wife would probably kick me under the table, is humor. I get on stage and I tell stories that are gut wrenching and awful in some ways and so painful. You know, life is hard for everybody, and I love to look at it with a humorous lens and to look at some of my worst episodes as an addict and the crazy stuff I did and the humiliating things that I did. I think that too often we think the world is watching us and thinking about us all the time, but the reality is they're not. Most of us are just thinking about ourselves most of the time, because that's human nature. And so I think what helps is I've done a lot of really hard things, and it's not that I'm not proud of those things, but my wife will tell you I'm bored about talking quite often about the things that I've already done. And I love talking about things that I'm going to do because I look back for examination, but not for verification of who I am.
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Yes. So usually, as you know, in the space of the thought leader and the speaker, whether it be Robert Iger, CEO of Disney, writing his book about what he's gone through. Ray Dalio, principles, leadership, the talk is like, I did all this and now I'm here. Okay. Your story seems to be a little bit different. Yours is like, hey, I'm on a journey. These are some life lessons you can learn from my journey. What made you decide to give us an inside look at the journey that you're currently on?
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I think it is the acknowledgement right off the bat that I'm a pretty average athlete. If I'm good at anything, really good at anything, it probably is the mental approach, which I know you appreciate. If I said anything nice about myself, it would be this. I am the guy you want next to you in the trenches when the bullets start flying. Because I have a philosophy about not panicking, because it never helps anything. Anybody can be the person saying, the sky is falling, the sky is falling, and. And who we want to be. Who I want to be is that person that other people turn to in hard times to ask for support, to ask for help. If they ask me for advice, I'll give it to them. But I'm not a person that pours advice onto people without their permission. I believe in more than any other principle in life, attraction over promotion. We're all kind of forced to promote ourselves to a certain degree. But your actions and how you behave is more influential to people out there than the words that you say. I think that is the most important attribute that any of us can have. I see that in you also. I've done my research too. And, you know, the way you live your life is consistent with the things that you say. And. And to tell you the truth, that's not the case with most people. It's just not.
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Yes, thank you. Yeah. And I've now been doing it over four decades. And I believe in the standard. My mother said to us when we were lower income, we might be lower income, but we're not lower class. I had to be into education because I have three older sisters. They made sure I studied, they tutored me. I had other tutors that constantly tutored me. I had coaches that I welcomed their discipline. And I stay extremely disciplined even at the stage that I'm in because to me, it's never about that we got somewhere. And I think you would agree with that. It's not that we got somewhere like, ooh, now I can rest. I got somewhere. I think that we're constantly growing, evolving. That's one reason I like what Carol Dweck says about the growth mindset rather than the fixed mindset. Okay, so I'm going to give you a couple questions. Charlie, give me a height of any career that you've ever been in. Was it in business? Was it in. You started a startup. So give me a pinnacle of any business endeavor you've been in.
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Okay. My run across the Sahara desert, quite honestly, while it was a personal goal, it was set up like any other business. I formed an llc, I made a business plan, I had to do fundraising. I had to convince people that this idea of me running 5,000 miles across the Sahara was some sort of an idea that would have some benefit. And it was a two year process. I'd call it a year and a half launch, about four months of execution and of course, a couple months of wind down at the end. And so it was no different than starting any other business.
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Charlie, can I tell you that I knew you were going to probably go that way, and this is one reason I'm doing this with you, because I think in studying you, that your journey is very unique and very unconventional. And because I have a faith background, and I'm sure you do too, is I feel like when God calls you to do something, it is specific, but it's also unique. And I think too many people, they're trying to do what other people are doing. They'll see a Gary Vee and they want to be that. They see a Tony Robbins, they want to be that, a Brene Brown, they want to do that. Or they see people that have these large companies and they're like, I'm going to get my large company, I'm going to exit a 200 million, and then I'm going to try to get on Shark Tank and be one of the judges. That's not how usually life works. And I find that your success and how you see success is a little bit unconventional, and it's very unique. How did you learn to get that perspective, man?
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Thank you so much for that reflection. It really is meaningful to me, and I think it's partially because I grew up with a mother who taught me how to think and not what to think. And I became just an infinitely curious kid. And I recognized that travel in particular was something I wanted to do my whole life. That coincided, Tim, with me meeting and being exposed to a number of very wealthy people. And I got the gift of understanding that their wealth did not translate to happiness. And I recognize so many of my friends spent their lives pursuing wealth, and they have it, and good for them. I mean, I hope it's fulfilling to them. But I recognize, and I think that's what God gave me, is this ability to understand that the best use I can be out there in the world and to be of service is to actually say my old favorite saying my very first sponsor in AA taught me, which was to keep it, you have to give it away. So whatever that gift is that you have, whether it's coaching or teaching or music or art, whatever that is, you got to give it away freely to other people without an expectation of some sort of financial return. And I think that's what I've embraced. I'm 63 now. I want to keep doing these things until my body says I can't, and then I want to help other people do it.
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Speaking is my main thing, I'm happy to say. My first book has been optioned for a film, so that process is happening. I will be writing another book. And right now, today, Tim, my number one job today is preparing for the biggest expedition I've ever done, which will happen in 2027, where I'll go from the Dead Sea, which is the lowest physical place on the planet, to the top of Mount Everest, which is about 5,000 miles away. And I'll do all of that physical work, human powered. And so just like I built these other businesses, this is the next business that I'm building right now.
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Okay, Try to break that down with the fact that you're ultramarathon runner to get from Dead Sea to the big Mountain. Are you going to be walking, running, crawling? Will you be on a stroller? Will you be.
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You're going to be pushing me in a wheelchair, probably so. In the Dead Sea? In the Dead Sea, because I love it there in Jordan, I'm actually going to swim into the Dead Sea and do a free dive to the lowest place I can reach. I'm going to come back up. If I don't come back up, it's like the world's shortest expedition, so there won't be much to see, but. And then I'm going to run and bike all the way across the Arabian Desert, and when I get to the tip of Oman, I'm actually going to sail across the Indian Ocean. I'm not much of a sailor at this point, so I need to. I'm taking on something that I'm not very good at. When I get to India, I'm going to bike across India and I'm going to bike my way to Nepal and Everest Base Camp, and from there, climb to the top.
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Okay, so I have a question for you. Is there a person who's done that before that we can say, wow, they did it, and this is what I'm going to try, or is this a lot of uniqueness that we're dealing with?
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This is a unique expedition. There have been a couple of people, one guy in particular on a cycling tour many years ago that biked all the way across the Middle East. So he actually, before things were too crazy, went across Iran, Iraq and Pakistan into India. So he did it differently. And he biked the entire way. I don't even know his name, but I want to give him credit where credit's due. But, like, no, this is a very unique. No one has ever done, to my knowledge, anything exactly like this. And what I love to say is, people ask if I'm scared, and I answer honestly. I mean, I'd be insane not to be concerned, at least, and even a little scared. But that feeling of not knowing if you can do something, I think it's the greatest feeling in the world to then step into that place where you're going to give this, I don't want to die or anything like that, but, you know, I want. And all the people closest to me are supporting me.
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God is with you. You're not going to die. And you're going to come out with some great stories, and this will probably be the second movie on you. Now, remember, I started in the beginning, young Charlie, that you are unconventional and you're unique, okay? But what you're about to do is way out there. So I might have to get you checked out by my friend, Dr. Amen to make sure everything's okay on that brain. I'm taking you to the AMED clinic, son.
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I'll take it.
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Hey, but isn't that the truth about people that decide to, like, go beyond? Look at Richard Branson, right? He's going beyond. Look at Jordan in basketball, beyond Tom Brady in football, beyond great scientists, beyond Martin Luther King, beyond Charlie Engel, beyond. Hey, Charlie, let's help some people since we're both good coaches. How does somebody find the right plan for their life? How does somebody find the right plan? They come to you. They're like, Charlie, man 43, lost my job. What the heck do I do next? How do they find the right plan?
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It's a great question. And I'll tell you something. I have to step back for one second, like you. I've been around Richard Branson a few times, and the greatest quality in that man is curiosity. If you try to have a business conversation with Richard Branson, his eyes glaze over. If you talk about nature or endurance or love or humanity, he'll talk to you all day. And so when people come to me, Tim, to be honest, it's usually, how can I stop drinking or drugging? I want to run a marathon. How can I do that? And I will ask them the most obvious question. Why do you want to do this? And most of the time, with the drinking and drugging, it's become self evident that this is a behavior that is not serving them well. And I encourage people all the time, don't worry about, are you an alcoholic or a drug addict? It doesn't matter. The question you need to ask yourself is, how is this behavior serving me? What am I going to get out of this? And so if you're only having one drink a week, but it's messing up your life, you need to quit. If you're drinking every night, then you need to find a way to quit. People will come and say, and this is my favorite. I want to run a marathon for charity, for Alzheimer's, for cancer, for this. Can you help me? I'm like, okay, I can help you. But first of all, let me encourage you to realize that your number one charity in your life is you. And you have to find ways to improve yourself so that you can be of service to other people. You can go help Alzheimer's or cancer or whatever it is. So we have to get down to the motivation about, why do I want to run this marathon? And if you think you want to run it because you just want it to be easy, then you're missing the point. The whole point is to struggle, is to train for it, prepare for it, and on race day, be afraid of it. Still go do it. And when the hard times come, find a way to get past those moments, because you'll remember those little tiny moments for the rest of your life.
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Great answer. All right, so how do people get through the dark times? The dark times. The dark times of divorce, the dark times of addiction, the dark times of incarceration, the dark times of doubting yourself. The dark times of I was working for this company 30 years, and they decided to fire me. Give me a step on how I can work through a very difficult, dark time.
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Yeah, thank you for that. And we've all been through those. And I think, again, I learned this from running. I think what we all do is we take the hardest moments, and let's just say with your loved one, that person who's your person, whether you're married or whatever, like, they're your brain, and you have a terrible argument with them, and you say things that you wish you hadn't said. And all the things that we do as human beings, what I think we tend to do is we take that moment and we project it out into the future. And. And our body and our mind says, I'm going to feel this way forever. I've ruined it. This relationship is this way forever. So that happens in running. If you're running 100 miler and at mile 32, the wheels have come off, the only thing you can think in your brain is, oh, my God, I have 68 more miles to run. I'm never going to make it. And what I learned to do years ago was to focus on just getting to the next aid station. Right. That next aid station is only three, three miles away. And if I can get there, then I can eat a bunch of food, I can drink some drinks, I can walk for a little while, and I will get through that. And so I think the key is in life that we really need to get through these little moments. We think we need to get through a hard period of time, but usually those periods of time are just these small little challenges where something happens and we feel like it's never going to be the same. But if we can learn to let that moment slide by, give it a beat, get a good night's sleep before you make a big decision to leave Your marriage or quit your job or quit the race, let it slide by. And I'm not saying the problem goes away, whatever it is, but it will look different in the morning.
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I love what you're saying because Robert Shiller used to say, never make a big decision in a down moment. And that's so, so true and very apropos to what you're saying. And I think as an ultra marathon runner, that you do have to have these points, this place where maybe you get water or some people have different. They'll eat a banana nutrition bar or something. And I teach the same thing in Setback to comeback, that it's not one big break. I think it's a series of small little breaks that build your faith. And it could be like maybe your daughter would not talk to you, but now you could just at least get her on the phone or have a coffee with her. That may not be a complete breakthrough, but that is a small break that could turn into bigger breaks. Is that pretty much what you're telling me?
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It is, Tim. And if you'll indulge me for just one more quick story, because I don't want people to think that I've done it right. I've finished every race. I've always been that tough guy. I think back about a race in the late 90s, early in my career, and I was in Tibet. I was in the most special place on the planet, it felt like, and in these beautiful mountains, and it was a team race, and one of my teammates got sick and had to quit. And so my team was no longer in the race. But we could continue as a team, unofficially, for eight more days in Tibet, in this gorgeous country and amazing people. And my team, including me, decided to quit. Here's the trick. It wasn't that simple. We quit in an emotional moment. And, you know, what happened is I had to sit on a bus for three days following the back of the race and watching other people struggle and suffer and be out there in nature. And like, of course, an hour after I quit, I regretted my decision so deeply. And at that moment, I said, I am never going to take myself out of something again. I mean, I might be pulled out of something for a medical reason or, like, things might happen, but I'm not going to make the decision to take myself out of the game. And I think that's what we do. We hit bumps. We take ourselves out of the game emotionally, physically, psychologically, and we regret it. And so life is hard enough. Don't take yourself out of the Game so good, Charlie.
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In a world of isolation, where in places like Japan, even England, they have a loneliness bureau because of the loneliness challenge that we're having all over the world. Really a mega crisis. Even on college campuses where you could have a college where you have 40,000 students, and so many students are citing loneliness in the midst of 40,000 students. Okay. As a runner, as a person who is doing these endeavors, how important is the power of partnership? How important is a power of partnership? Because I think a lot of people think, well, I'm not lonely. I'm connected to my iPhone and now I can get on TikTok, Instagram, sometimes Facebook, all these things. How important is a power partnership in your life?
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Yeah, it's huge, Tim. It's huge. I ran something like. I mean, I'm still doing it, but I ran about 250 marathons in my life. And it wasn't because I even enjoyed. I always make the joke. It's not running I like. It's the companionship that I like. So when I step up to a race or I go to another city or even another country to do an event, there's something about that. Shared suffering, shared experience in person. Dude, I even had a. With some friends of mine, we created a club years ago. We laugh about it today. And it's mostly men, but it was. Hats was the acronym, but it was basically, hugs are always too short. And so, like, I have this thing and if you ever meet me in person, I'll put you through it. Like, I don't give you the bro hug and pat you on the back. Like, I'm going to give you a hug and I'm going to hold onto that hug for probably an uncomfortable amount of time. I mean, five seconds for a hug feels like an eternity. We never hug people for even five seconds. And so if you can get over yourself, if we can get over ourselves and just be that person who physically in person is able to do that. I feel terrible for college students today. Even my own kids who are in their early 30s, they have grown up with phones and very little side rails on how to use them. And, you know, they ask girls out by texting and they do things that, I mean, I'm sorry, it's just not. I can't imagine doing that. We've got to continue to be in person, make eye contact with other human beings and have a conversation and hopefully a nice hug at the end.
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I love it. I have two more questions for you, Charlie. Number one, this is not one of the two questions Are you enjoying this conversation?
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It's my favorite conversation I've had in a long time, Tim. You could probably tell.
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No. Thank you for that. It's nice to be understood, right? Like you feel understood because I'm telling you, when I was doing the research on you, I'm like, this guy, he's playing outside the box. He's unique. He's doing his own style. And because of my spiritual background, I think you got a touch of God on you. Okay, so I was at a John Maxwell conference, and me and Deion Sanders were speaking. Deion Sanders had been my buddy for close to 30 years. And Deon said, tim, you're looking good. And I said, yeah. I said, I'm still training. And I said, and then I'm walking three miles a day. He was so mad at me. He goes, you're what? I said, I'm walking three miles a day. He said, that's embarrassing. I was proud of myself. You should be, because that's embarrassing. And I said, my shin started hurting a few years ago. He goes, come on, Tim. Get out of here. That's what he said. That's embarrassing. So let's go there for a minute, because a lot of guys that I coach, when they get in their late 40s, in their 50s, in their 60s, they complain about their knees, about their shins, about their feet, their arches, or the heels. Okay, so, number one, what do you think about Deion's response to me saying, I walk?
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B
I want to tell you, first of all, I love Deon. I grew up in that era watching him, and I loved him, and I see his big personality today, but I don't agree with him on this. I think, in fact, that, you know, because walking has been proven over and over again that if it's not equal to running, it's pretty darn close from a mental health standpoint, a physical health, if you could walk three miles a day every single day. Day. I always tell people in the longevity space, a lot of wealthy friends of mine who want to go spend $50,000 on stem cells somewhere or whatever. And I'm like, look, if you'll just walk three miles a day, seven days a week, I'll add 10 years to your life. You can send me a check for 50 grand if you want to, but let me save you some money. And I. Because it's not just the walking, Tim. It's being outside in nature. It's hearing birds, it's seeing people and saying hello. It's so many other things.
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A
I like this. I Like you, man, you're alive in your life. Charlie. All right, Charlie, give me a 60 second pep talk for somebody who is sitting in a setback. They're challenged. 60 seconds. Tell them why they're going to be okay.
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B
It's the easiest question you asked me all day. So, first of all, the best way out of your funk is to help somebody else get out of theirs every single time. So if you can be of service, I don't care if that means, you know, I go to my AA meeting and I make coffee for the group or I. Whatever it is. So being of service is number one. Number two, and ideally, like when I ran across the Sahara desert, I chose clean water as my cause. Like this run was for me. My next one, dead sea to Everest. It's for me, Tim. It's for me. It's my goal just to see personally if I can do this. But I'm partners with Charity Water, which is one of the world's largest clean water nonprofits, and I get a chance to do the selfish thing, which is to do what I want and the selfless thing at the same time. And they're the same thing. That's what I tell people all the time. Find that thing where you can be of service and also grow personally.
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A
Talking to Charlie Engel, who is going to be a friend of mine. Charlie, best way for us to follow you would be what right now?
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B
You couldn't miss me if you threw a rock. So every social media platform, YouTube in particular, it's all just my name. So Arliengle. But my website is charlie engel.com and all of those social media handles are on there. So it's easy, I'm easy to find. And by the way, Tim, on my website is my phone number and my email address personally. And so people who struggle with addiction or they want to talk about running their first ultramarathon, all you gotta do is reach out and I'll be happy to give you a little bit of time.
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A
I love it. I love it, I love it, Charlie. We have something called Leave with Love. It's a movement that I've created and I think sometime you'd be a great guest at this. We do these lives in different cities and then we do masterminds. One of my partners is the John Paul dejora. We have an amazing group of people. What does it mean to you to lead with love? To lead with compassion or love in 30 seconds or left? What does it mean to lead with love?
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B
It's a great question. And what you asked a minute ago. Count me in. So anytime. What it means to lead with love. It's absolutely about showing up for people without the agenda of trying to fix their problems. It's being there for them and listening to them and giving that person an opportunity to tell you with their heart what's going on and they understand you're not going to judge them, you're not going to try to fix them and just letting people be heard. To me, that is leading with love.
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A
That was such a beautiful answer of this idea of with no agenda. No agenda. Charlie, I appreciate you for real. So let's follow Charlie Engel on all the platforms that he talks about. He has a huge following and we're going to make it even bigger. I want to thank you guys for watching and listening to Miracle Mentality. It's really a movement and we have something going on here that's unique. We're going to continue to bring great stories to you. Getting a lot of feedback to my interview that I recently had with Amanda Knox and what she had to say and Elizabeth Smart. That interview did so well. So you can go back and just look at Miracle Mentality and see the other interviews that we've been doing with people and wow, just some great, great things. And then the one I just did with Charlie, I think so. So many people are going to be helped by it. So make sure and subscribe. It's important the subscribe side of it. Like it. But continue to tell a friend. And last thing, as I said earlier, I want to hear from you, make a comment about what you think about this episode and I want to say your name on the air. I want to say your name on the air. If you want to find out how you can come to a lead with Love Mastermind in a city near you, just go to timstory.com that's Tim Story. S t o r e y.com find out how to come to one of the masterminds. I just want to just leave you with this. You may not be what you want to be, but thank God you're not what you used to be. Life is still good and we will see you real soon. Thank you for sharing space with me on this episode of Miracle Mentality with Tim Storey. If today sparked your courage or helped you understand why you're created for success, I invite you to carry that miracle mentality forward. Visit me@timstory.com that story with an EY on the end. Until next time, walk by faith, embrace possibility and create your own comeback story.