Members Only Palm Beach: Exclusive Cast Tell-All (Part 1)

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Podcast Summary: Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

Episode Title: Members Only Palm Beach: Exclusive Cast Tell-All (Part 1)
Air Date: March 14, 2026
Host: Rachel Uchitel
Guests: Cast members from “Members Only Palm Beach”: Rosalind, Maria, Taja, Romina, Hillary

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Episode Overview

This highly anticipated episode brings together, for the first time since their show's premiere, the main cast members of Members Only Palm Beach and Rachel Uchitel. The cast openly discusses post-show drama, how the series was received, personal fallouts, and the realities behind the headlines. The episode pulls back the curtain on reality television, focusing on the nuanced and sometimes fraught dynamics both on and off air.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Reunion Atmosphere & Aesthetic Transformations

• Rachel starts by welcoming the cast, noting this is their first full group sit-down since the show’s premiere. Each cast member shares their feelings about reuniting ([01:23]-[01:51]).
• Lighthearted banter about recent cosmetic procedures, specifically Hillary’s “tush” enhancement, leads to discussion about self-image, age, and empowerment.
  • Rachel: “I think it’s important for people to realize, it’s not just girls who are 26 that can get these things… it makes you look younger, more athletic.” ([02:52])
  • Hillary (about her procedure): “I lost a bunch of weight and I had no tush.” ([02:14])

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2. Palm Beach Portrayal & Local Backlash

• Rachel opens the topic of how Members Only Palm Beach was received in the local community, particularly criticism over how “Palm Beach” was depicted ([03:58]).
• Taja and Hillary clarify that the show is entertainment and does not claim to represent all Palm Beach society ([04:26], [05:09]).
  • Taja: “It was all in fun and entertainment, the show… it doesn’t necessarily mean that it has to represent exactly what Palm beach is… there are many layers.” ([04:26])
  • Hillary describes reactions from friends, ranging from praise to deeply personal conversations about perceived misrepresentation.
  • Noteworthy quote: “Don’t think you can even put the people who were negative in a box…” — Hillary ([07:37])

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3. Reality TV Editing—Expectations vs. Reality

• Rachel asks the cast about seeing themselves through the show’s editorial lens.
  • Romina: “No, because that’s exactly like how everything went down. There was maybe, like, one line they moved... but otherwise, everything was exactly how I lived it.” ([10:13])

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4. Fitting In: The Etiquette Arc & Real-Life Dynamics

• The build-up and reality behind the “etiquette classes” and fitting into Palm Beach society: Romina tells her story of reaching out to Rosalind for guidance, leading to a real-life mentorship that naturally became part of the show ([10:39]-[12:14]).
• Rosalind clarifies these moments were unscripted, “reality television just leans into a storyline” ([12:14]).
• Emotional fallout: Stress-induced health issues are discussed (Romina: “It was the dress and the stress.... it triggered a rash.” [13:39]).

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5. Gail Brophy: Conflict, Fallouts, and the “Queen” Metaphor

• Taja and Rosalind delve into the contentious relationship with Gail.
  • Taja found Gail’s name-dropping and “life resume” exhausting: “I’m not used to people name dropping and... stating their life resume at every meeting; that makes me break out in hives.” ([15:45])
  • Rosalind defends her initial loyalty to Gail but admits, “I really wanted, like, a mother figure, and I gave her a lot of respect... But I think that Tasha and Hillary were right.” ([17:43])
• They dissect the symbolic “crown and baton” moment, with Rosalind clarifying she never considered herself “the queen”: “I said, no, no, I’m not the queen. But thank you. Never said, I’m the queen. We’re all queens.” ([21:31])
• On Gail’s controversial comments (“Go back to your country”):
  • Rosalind: “I do regret not saying something immediately, but I tried to stop her from being a trainwreck on herself saying this horrible, bigoted thing.” ([24:30]-[25:05])
  • Romina notes she didn’t hear it during filming and only became aware watching the show ([25:21]).

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6. Fallout Between Rosalind & Gail

• Rosalind reveals her final break with Gail came after Gail made a sexual innuendo about Rosalind and the baton during a TV promo, interpreted as deeply disrespectful ([30:53]-[32:55]).
  • Rosalind: “The first minute she got on television to promote the show... she mimicked—she said Rosalind did a blow job, a sexual act with the baton…”

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7. Interpersonal Tensions: Hillary & Rosalind

• Addressing unseen tension, especially the comment about Hillary’s son and his late father.
  • Hillary shares a raw, emotional moment watching the finale with her son: “My son started crying, like in my arms. So I was really mad.” ([33:59]-[35:50])
  • Both apologize, acknowledging retaliation and the impact of words.
    • Hillary: “We’re not best friends… We have very different personalities… But we respect each other’s position on the show.” ([37:10])
  • Maria provides context, noting the power of hurt feelings and underlying group tension ([38:21]).

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8. The Mar-a-Lago Rumor & Cease and Desist

• Rachel brings up the notable legal spat between Rosalind and Taja over rumors and hearsay regarding Rosalind's Mar-a-Lago membership.
  • Rosalind: “...it was slandering my name… but she did not start that rumor.” ([43:24])
  • Taja feels she only repeated what was widely circulated; Rosalind insists the way it was presented was damaging ([44:36]-[45:49]).

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9. Group Politics, Friendships & Isolation

• Rachel encourages the group to reconcile, highlighting how reality TV “trauma bonds” people ([47:26]).
• Maria and Taja discuss feeling isolated and accusations of negative energy, competitiveness, and support (or lack thereof) for social events ([47:43]-[53:18]).
  • Taja: “I want to be at peace with everyone.” ([46:41])
  • Maria: “I try to avoid that type of energy... it pushes me away.” ([48:37])

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10. The Premiere Party & Gail’s Meltdown

• The podcast wraps with a detailed look at drama from the premiere event and escalating tensions around Gail, culminating in her being escorted out by security due to disruptive behavior ([57:51]-[61:28]).

  • Taja: “The security of the event decided to escort her out because... she was causing a commotion.” ([61:02])
  • Rosalind: “I was telling her, ‘you’re not acting right—cool it, stop it...’” ([61:20])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Let’s not take this so seriously, okay? No one’s trying to emulate who you are... This is entertainment.” — Hillary ([07:06])
• “I do regret not saying something immediately, but I tried to stop her from being a trainwreck on herself saying this horrible, bigoted thing.” — Rosalind ([25:05])
• “We’re not best friends. We might never... have a sleepover. But we’re not enemies.” — Hillary ([37:10])
• “Trauma bonded. When you do a reality show…you go through this newfound fame together, and that’s a big deal.” — Rachel Uchitel ([47:26])

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Segment Timestamps

• Welcome / Introductions: [00:57]-[01:54]
• Cosmetic Procedures / Empowerment: [01:54]-[03:56]
• Palm Beach Reaction / Representation: [03:58]-[08:50]
• Reality TV Editing: [10:13]-[12:14]
• Etiquette & Fitting In: [12:14]-[14:29]
• Gail Brophy: Queen & Conflict: [15:45]-[26:46]
• Rosalind & Gail Fallout: [30:49]-[32:55]
• Hillary & Rosalind Tension: [33:52]-[41:41]
• Mar-a-Lago Rumor / Cease and Desist: [42:42]-[46:20]
• Friendship, Group Dynamics, & Isolation: [47:26]-[55:15]
• The Premiere Party & Gail Escorted Out: [57:51]-[61:28]

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Overall Tone and Takeaway

The episode ranges from heartfelt to fiery, capturing both the glamor and the grit behind the reality TV façade. The women showcase vulnerability, a willingness to revisit painful moments, and an appetite for accountability—even if reconciliation remains elusive. The conversational style is lively, at times contentious, but always candid, offering a nuanced look at friendship, community, and the price of public exposure.

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For fans and newcomers alike:
This episode pulls back the curtain on Palm Beach’s social scene and the realities of reality-TV—delivering humor, confessions, and revelations you won’t get from a headline.

Transcript

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[Rachel Yukatel]

Welcome to Misunderstood with Rachel Yukatel. I am here for the first time with the cast since they were at the premiere of their own show to talk about Members Only Palm Beach. A lot of stuff happened on the show. A lot of stuff got complicated after the show. So we're going to hear all about it now for the first time that they're getting together. So I wanted to start with all of you and welcome you. Thank you. Thank you for trusting me.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

Thank you for being here.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Thank you for getting together.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

How are you, Rosalyn?

[Rachel Yukatel]

How are you feeling about being here?

[Rosalind]

I feel great. I'm really, really excited.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Good.

[Maria]

What about you? I'm just as excited. It just doesn't look like it because I don't smile as big as she does. I'm just as excited. No, it's great to all be in the room together, you know. It's been a minute.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Yeah. Taja, how are you feeling?

[Taja]

People are not. I'm happy to see everybody.

[Rachel Yukatel]

I'm so happy to hear that. What about you, Romina?

[Romina]

I'm excited. I'm always excited.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

Okay.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Is this you excited?

[Romina]

Yeah.

[Hillary]

Okay.

[Romina]

There's different versions of my excited, but yeah.

[Hillary]

Got it.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Hilary, you look amazing. I know. You just got your butt done with Dr. And you look, you know, high and tight. How are you feeling?

[Hillary]

Thank you. Well, I haven't shown the girls yet.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Oh, you haven't?

[Hillary]

No. Oh, tell me, should I do a twirl?

[Maria]

Yes. She's sitting on the best asset right now. My best.

[Hillary]

I mean, it's hard to tell in the dress, but it's.

[Romina]

It is.

[Hillary]

It is just filler. Done by a fabulous doctor that. That Rachel introduced me to. And his name is. Well, I've renamed him Dr. Tush, but his real name is Dr. Dorfman. And, you know, I lost a bunch of weight and I had no tush.

[Maria]

I saw it in leggings.

[Ali Jackson]

It looks great.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Yeah.

[Maria]

You posted and you had a little. So.

[Rosalind]

Yeah.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Yeah.

[Hillary]

I mean, I wasn't looking, you know, for the Brazilian butt lift, but I wanted. I was taking in all my pants in the back. It was horrible.

[Ali Jackson]

Good for you.

[Hillary]

So, yeah. And it's hard to do that. That's too much information.

[Romina]

So I'm feeling.

[Maria]

We liked it.

[Hillary]

It was great.

[Rachel Yukatel]

And I think it's important I got it done, too. And I think it's important for people to realize, like, you know, it's not just girls who are 26 that, you know, can get these things and still look good. It makes you look younger. It makes you look more athletic. And there's only so many squats you can do. I mean, you. I don't know how you get.

[Maria]

I would get a lot, but I even. Like, my butt's not my biggest ass.

[Rachel Yukatel]

But don't you think it's really hard?

[Rosalind]

It.

[Romina]

Yeah, Especially Maria needs some.

[Taja]

I think it's like genetics. Yeah. Yeah.

[Maria]

Genetically, it is. It's genetics. I work out all the time, and my. My arms are way more progressed than my butt. Like, I would totally do that procedure.

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Maria]

I feel like you should do what makes you happy.

[Romina]

Yeah.

[Hillary]

You can't tell in this dress, but Rachel has the best tush I've ever seen. And I was like, I need that touch. And so she shared with me, which was so nice. And I did it. And it's. You know, I'm a little sore right now.

[Maria]

It was just Friday.

[Hillary]

Just same. But is it painful?

[Romina]

No.

[Hillary]

They numb you. But, you know, sitting and it's like 30 minutes.

[Rachel Yukatel]

No, it's like hyaluronic acid.

[Hillary]

Apparently, I needed more. Mine was like two hours.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Oh, sorry.

[Rosalind]

Well, good. If you're happy with that. And it looks good.

[Hillary]

No, yeah.

[Rachel Yukatel]

I'm really great.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

All right.

[Rachel Yukatel]

So when this show came out, there was so much conversation about it. Everybody was talking about it. Some good, some bad. And as you guys obviously know the biggest thing is that people were almost offended or surprised about the representation of Palm Beach. So, Tasha, I want to ask you, what, what, how would you describe what Palm beach represents compared to what the show represented?

[Taja]

So look, I think that it was all in fun and entertainment, the show, you know, it doesn't necessarily mean that it has to represent exactly what Palm beach is, because as Maria said, there's many different layers of Palm Beach. I mean, obviously, like, you and I have been coming here our whole lives. Right? Of course. It represents philanthropy, friendships, the beautiful beaches and palm trees and then, you know, behind the scenes competition. I think that's all real. It's not really fake. And then new people coming to try and fit in.

[Romina]

Right.

[Rachel Yukatel]

So why do you guys think that it made such a. So many people so angry? Like, why do you think there was

[Taja]

so much local Palm Beaches? I don't think worldwide people had a problem with it. I think the community of, you know, like the real Palm beach, like the island, you know, which I can understand too. Like, maybe, you know, they feel like misrepresented, but really nobody is trying to represent them or their lives. You know, this is just all fun and entertainment. Like, you know, we live here, we're part of the social scene and that's what we're showing.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Yeah. I do think, you know, people have to remember that Palm beach island, you know, people put on some sort of a pedestal. And what people don't talk about a lot is in the last couple of years, especially since COVID some of the richest people have moved off the island.

[Taja]

Yes.

[Rachel Yukatel]

You can get more property, there's more space, there's more things to do, and the houses are newer, you know, so I think that a lot of people have been uneducated about who's in Palm beach and what Palm beach is. And like, you could talk about that because you've built in West Palm.

[Ali Jackson]

Right.

[Hillary]

And I've lived on Palm Beach Island.

[Rosalind]

Yeah.

[Hillary]

When I first moved here, I lived on Woodbridge Road and I. My son was in school at Palm beach public for several years and at the day school.

[Rachel Yukatel]

So was it offensive to you though, to see the kind of negative comments that were coming about?

[Romina]

Yeah, I was.

[Rosalind]

Yeah.

[Hillary]

Well, and I, you know, I personally definitely took a head for that because. Because I am a Palm Beacher and a West Palm Beacher, so knowing so many people for 22 years, I literally had people say, sit down, we want to talk to you. Right. And literally. And. And those were some of the more old time people And I looked at them, I said, guys, let's not take this so seriously, okay? No one's trying to emulate who you are. Yeah, right. This is entertainment. This is a group of five women, all very different. And no one's trying to mock, you know, the. The society women at Palm Beach. So let's take a step back and try and not be so emotional. And they started laughing. I got. I tried to be funny and got them to laugh. Then, you know, I have another group of friends who I would call the really old time billionaire Palm Beachers. They're like, we loved you on the show. It was so much fun. It was so fabulous. And they're no different than the other women that sat me down in terms of whatever you want to call it in terms of background, but just a different attitude.

[Rosalind]

Okay.

[Hillary]

About themselves and about how they see the world. So don't think you can even put the people who were negative in a box, because it would have been very hard to predict for me which of the people were going to be super supportive to me and which weren't. I mean, I've had a couple of surprises of people that I thought were very good friends, who I thought I was much closer to, who I've been very good to. Okay. Who, let's say, took it a step too far and suddenly looked at me differently, as if I was a different person between Christmas and January 1st. Yeah. Like as if I had suddenly changed. And I do take offense to that because, number one, it's just inaccurate. And, well, it just kind of showed me maybe they were never my friend anyway.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Okay.

[Hillary]

Who they really were. And so I just learned a lot about people, personally through this experience.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Don't you think it says more about the people who are complaining than it does really about you guys? Because they talk about the way you guys look, the way you guys act, your style, whether or not you lived on the island. And to get that triggered seems like a them problem.

[Taja]

Although we said we lived on the island, nobody, right?

[Rachel Yukatel]

So I think people were like, oh, the show misrepresented itself. And so.

[Rosalind]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Do you want to say something about that?

[Rosalind]

Most people in Palm beach love the show. When I'm walking down Worth Avenue, I literally had people hanging out cars. Rosalind. Rosalind. People stop me for pictures everywhere I go. Everyone loves the show. So you do have anonymous people on the keyboard, but they don't want to be named. And we never said we're representing all of the people in Palm Beach. This show represents five women and our Journeys and our life and our friendships or whatever we go through together. And it has nothing to do with them, but if they want to be on the show, they're welcome to be on the show. And you know what? So many women who live in Palm beach want to be on season two.

[Hillary]

Right.

[Maria]

I think also too many action. The reaction actually is. Exactly.

[Hillary]

And they're not trying to show, but they're.

[Rosalind]

They are interviewing or trying to correct. So people would be very surprised if they knew who was trying to be on the show. And I love that.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Right. So, Romina, I'm going to ask you. When you watched the playback of the show, were you ready for how you were going to be, you know, edited? Did you see that? That's. You know, sometimes when you're edited through a couple months, you give a whole storyline and then you're edited. I won't say differently, but they take out a lot, and there's a. And there's a certain storyline. Were you surprised watching it back?

[Romina]

No, because that's exactly, like, how everything went down. There was maybe, like, one line that they moved of, like, what I said one time when me and Rosalind were talking, and I was like, that's not how that went. But other than that, like, everything was exactly how, you know, how I lived it.

[Rachel Yukatel]

So you came in here feeling like you really wanted to fit in and learn how to fit in. Is that an accurate portrayal of.

[Ali Jackson]

Yeah.

[Romina]

When I. Yeah. When I moved to Florida, one of the first people I called was Rosalind because we had met in Philadelphia and we knew a lot of the same people, and I would always see, like, all her videos and Instagram. I've been following her, and I was like, she looks like she's so much fun, and I love to have fun. So I reached out to her, and she took me to lunch at the Boca Raton, and we had a great time, and we had, you know, a lot in common, and. And that's how it went. And I. And she kept, like, you know, inviting me to all the events at Mar a Lago. And so I started going there, and I loved being a part of, like, these charity events and giving back to the community, but also meeting.

[Rachel Yukatel]

So this is before the show.

[Rosalind]

This is all before the show in 2022.

[Romina]

Yeah. It's as soon as I moved and

[Rosalind]

we were going to events together, even ones that I had nothing to do with. Events that I just purchased a ticket also. Yeah. Yeah.

[Rachel Yukatel]

And were you already thinking before the show, I need to help her with how she looks and how she represents.

[Romina]

I think people commented to her, it was a true story, one of my outfits. And then that became, like, part of the pilot episode, because that's just what was happening at the time. So when these shows are put together, the producers call us, and they have very lengthy conversations with all of us about what's going on in our lives. And so they choose the situations that they find the most interesting, but they're all real situations that we're going through. And so, you know, that was just one of the things at the time.

[Rosalind]

So reality television leans into a storyline, and I guess it's something that they knew would elicit strong feelings one way or the other.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Right.

[Rosalind]

And I think that that's the goal, even though this is all entertainment and we love each other.

[Romina]

But all that happened.

[Rosalind]

It did happen. We did go to a black tie together. I had nothing to do with the

[Romina]

event photo of my outfit. She did say.

[Rosalind]

I said, please don't wear it because it's beautiful.

[Maria]

You look gorgeous.

[Rosalind]

But, like, I would wear that to Nikki Beach. It did happen. Yeah. And she shows up to a black tie wearing it, and I was like, oh, shoot. But we took a picture with the Marines, and a lot of people in the country went viral. Every outlet was posting it. And then they were saying, you know, these can't be real Marines, and she's not Joe's. Right. And who.

[Romina]

And then my question was like, but did they write my name?

[Rosalind]

And I said, no, but they knew who I was. But it was funny. But it did happen.

[Hillary]

Right?

[Rachel Yukatel]

So you said you wanted to be in front of a camera for a long time.

[Taja]

Yeah.

[Rachel Yukatel]

But it seems like this became very stressful for you, trying to fit in. You have you got highs at a certain part in the show. Did that happen more than once, or.

[Romina]

No, it just happened the one time, but it lasted for, like, over a week.

[Rosalind]

And I think you were allergic to stress.

[Maria]

It was the dress.

[Romina]

No, it was the dress and the stress. Because I had autoimmune, and my doctor said that, like, whatever chemical was in the dress went into my body. And the fact that I was stressing it, like, pulled out. It triggered a rash.

[Rachel Yukatel]

So I know you guys seem to be very friendly now, and I watch you guys on all the tiktoks with the three of you mostly together. But as you do get into the show, you see that you, Rosalyn, are very trying to be very helpful in giving her etiquette classes. Hiring the etiquette instructor.

[Rosalind]

It was her idea.

[Romina]

Was it?

[Rosalind]

Yeah.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Oh, wow.

[Rosalind]

She asked for the etiquette class.

[Rachel Yukatel]

So, you know, and it didn't seem like it came from, you know, it seemed like you had a harder time with Gail giving you instructions than you did. So I'm just curious why, because they both sort of gave you the same, you know, feedback.

[Romina]

Rosalyn was. Is always Rosalyn. Even when she's, you know, feeling frustrated, she's still gonna have the biggest smile on her face. And she's. She's never, like, rude. She's never rude or mean. And I think it was Gayle who was, like, rude and mean the whole time. And just Rosalind. There was times where she could have stuck up for me, and. And she maybe tried, but Gail has a way of not letting anyone speak. And you can hear me saying, like, you don't let me talk. Like, who's the mean?

[Hillary]

True.

[Romina]

She really doesn't allow anyone to say a word, and it's very frustrating. And so maybe Rosalind wanted to say something in my defense, but it's just very hard to do it next to a person like that.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Got it.

[Hillary]

Okay,

[Rachel Yukatel]

Tasha, let's talk about you for a second. Because you were somebody who was very even keeled during the season. You were kind of the peacemaker in a lot of things, except for a couple instances. 1. Let's talk about your relationship with Gayle. You were the one who was able to sort of call her out and stand up to her and watching your edit back, how did you feel about the way you were presented versus what you filmed?

[Taja]

I. You know, I don't think anything was edited differently than what I actually filmed. Yeah, I mean, I just never really. I'm not used to people name dropping and, you know, you know, stating their life resume at every, you know, meeting. Like, I'm just. It was like, you know, I was. I'm kind of like. That makes me break out in hives.

[Rosalind]

Right.

[Taja]

When somebody has to announce it or prove that or interrupt and, oh, well, I did this. Or I just, you know, was. I could not believe that.

[Romina]

Gail loves to talk about Gail.

[Taja]

I know, but that's, you know, she

[Rachel Yukatel]

only talks about it.

[Taja]

Talk about etiquette, just not, you know, that's not proper etiquette at all.

[Maria]

She also doesn't have dial monologues any.

[Romina]

She also doesn't finish her sentences.

[Taja]

Like, it's just something over and over and over again. Yeah, the same thing over and over again. Like, we heard it every single time. I did. I chaired this. I did that.

[Hillary]

Okay.

[Taja]

And I'm not hiring. I'm not Hiring. So I don't think I need to know all of this right now, but thank you.

[Romina]

Right.

[Rosalind]

In hindsight, because I did stand up for Gal, I didn't want anyone talking about her. But in hindsight, like, Tasha was right.

[Taja]

Thank you. But I wasn't talking about her.

[Rosalind]

No.

[Taja]

I was just saying it in front

[Rosalind]

of her that maybe I didn't want to see it.

[Taja]

Yeah. Maybe we just want to get to know you, Gail, without your.

[Romina]

I don't think we do, though.

[Taja]

Yeah. Maybe not anymore.

[Rosalind]

I agree with you, but I love

[Rachel Yukatel]

that you're saying this, because I feel like during the whole season, it was many instances with a lot of cast

[Rosalind]

members, I used to offer her to my detriment sometimes. Wouldn't let anybody say a word about her. Didn't want to listen, didn't want to hear it. And.

[Rachel Yukatel]

But is that because you had, like, unspoken or spoken alliance with her, or did you just really not see it through it?

[Rosalind]

No, there was no alliance.

[Romina]

Okay.

[Rosalind]

I really. I think with Gail, I really wanted, like, a mother figure, and I gave her a lot of respect. It's not easy for me to speak up or tell somebody how I'm feeling or even if it's the truth. So I gave her a pass, and I didn't want to see it. But I think that Tasha and Hillary were right.

[Romina]

I think a lot has happened since the show aired that has shown Rosalynn the true colors of Gayle.

[Taja]

Right.

[Rosalind]

And also what Gail does when she sees everyone. I love you. You're so beautiful. You're there. They only showed it with me, but she was. She does it to everyone. Everyone. Time with her when she was on stage at your birthday. But she does it all the time. Like, if she saw Tasha. Oh, your shoes. You know what I mean? Like, oh, your nails, your hair.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Right.

[Rosalind]

Well, she does that with everyone. Or with Hillary. Like, she does that. So it wasn't only with me.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Why do you think that she picked you to be the new queen of Palm Beach? How did you guys meet? Like, why? What was your interaction before the show?

[Rosalind]

So. And this is the only time I ever mentioned Mar a Lago. One time in the entire show was, as I said, I met Gayle Brophy at a charity event at Mar a Lago, which I did okay. Kind of when I first moved here, it was Covid. So when events started happening, it was during COVID but Florida was open when in the Northeast, it was. And that's how I met her. We're just sitting next to each other, so I've Known her for several years this year at events. And like I said, you know, my mother passed away in 2004 from ovarian cancer. Sorry. And thank you. I wanted a mother figure, very desperate for that. And so I just was hoping. And I was always very good to Kale. That's why I stood up for her. And even if she was wrong, but

[Romina]

she said, why did she make you the queen?

[Rosalind]

Oh, that I don't like. I was surprised at that. That wasn't told to me before. I had no idea what was in the box. So when they pulled the crown out, I said, oh, thank you. Thank you, Gail. Like, I didn't know exactly what to do. So I just went with it and thanked her as I would if you gave me flowers or candle. It could have been anything in the box.

[Rachel Yukatel]

So I remember she asked you to put the crown in your closet and look at yourself and say, you are the queen.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

Where is the crown right now?

[Rosalind]

It actually is in my bathroom. Do you remember when she gave me the baton?

[Rachel Yukatel]

Yes, of course. I was going to ask where that is, too.

[Rosalind]

It's in my bathroom now. But when I came home, you know, I was like, oh, what is. You know, what is this from Amazon? You know, And I don't. I'm very particular with everything in my home. So I, you know, she gives a plunge almost. Almost the trash. And our producer Darren, texted me as soon as I walked in the do, and he's like, hey, don't get rid of that, you know, baton. We need it in the show. And I was like, oh, okay. Oops.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

So you still have it?

[Rosalind]

I have it. It's in my bathroom. It has great memories from the show. And when I watched it, that scene with my husband, both, like, when she gave me the cone.

[Maria]

Oh, my God.

[Rosalind]

We were laughing hysterically. Like, my husband and I just laughing and laughing. Just. It's funny, you know.

[Taja]

Right.

[Rosalind]

So I didn't want to take it any other way. Yeah, you know, you have to have a sense of humor.

[Rachel Yukatel]

I think it offended a lot of people because they said, this isn't a real. But I think it was a metaphor.

[Rosalind]

It's a metaphor for passing the crown. Pass the baton, pass the torch. And it's something that Gail always did say, though, to tell you the truth. And she does speak like that.

[Ali Jackson]

Right.

[Rosalind]

But I always said, I'm not the queen. Even in the show, when she gave it to you, I said, no, no, I'm not the queen. But thank you. Never said, I'm the queen. I don't talk about that. I never said so. Everyone's a queen. We're all queens.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Your opinion about Gayle changed after the show. Is that because you watched the show back and started to understand these girls, or did you guys actually have a falling out?

[Rosalind]

Well, kind of both. So I watched the show, and I did. I did. See. Oh, I don't like that. You know, but in all fairness, she does do that with everyone with the club, you know, with the greeting. They made it seem like a love affair. And there's. There's no love affair, but, like, you know, like more like a mother. Like a senior romantic relationship again. Now I have a very passionate relationship with my husband.

[Maria]

You did say after you watched the show back, you had called us and we were talking, and you said, I had a chance to watch the show back. And I really wish that in that moment when we were sitting down with the etiquette coach, I really wish that I had said something. I remember you said that to rupees.

[Rosalind]

Oh, of course. Yes. You didn't realize that because you got so upset.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Well, first of all, your etiquette coach got so upset that she left. You started crying.

[Rosalind]

She would have done more. The etiquette coach could have done more.

[Maria]

It was above her pay grade. The etiquette coach, they changed her out.

[Rosalind]

There's so much that we just talked about that we didn't finish. Right. So you asked about. Let's not forget, did we have a falling out after? And then that moment.

[Maria]

Stay in that moment. You can talk about the falling out.

[Rosalind]

Yeah, stay in the moment.

[Maria]

Yeah, well, because, you know, it tells people that you did regret, like, not saying something in the moment.

[Rosalind]

So we filmed for eight weeks. It boils down to six hours. That was towards the end of the filming, maybe the last week or the week before. So filming with Gail was very difficult. I could not get a word in. I tried and tried. I told the producers, hey, you know, it's really hard to film with her. I can't speak. She doesn't let me speak.

[Taja]

We can all attest to that. No, everybody knows you cannot get a word in.

[Rosalind]

No, you cannot. It has to be all about her. And I didn't realize that was the reason. I didn't realize she's a narcissist. I. They don't realize she wants the fame. I just thought, she's older and I'll give her the respect. But it came to a point where I did stop talking. I just sat there. You can clearly see in the store when it's the Three of us, Romina, me, and Gail. And then at the etiquette, the three of us, I say almost nothing. If you rewatch it now in that lens, I was so used to the two of them just going at it. Going at it. If I try to say something like, Gail, she talks over me. She even tried to do it in episode eight when we were all sitting and I said, gail, please. So I just stopped. And, you know, I was just sitting, looking this way, literally not even looking towards the. The action is here. Romina, me, Gail. And I'm looking toward the water like that, like, not looking at anything.

[Hillary]

Right.

[Rosalind]

Because I know I can't speak with her. And she said, you know, she should go back to her country. And I do regret not saying something immediately, but I.

[Romina]

You did say. You said, she just doesn't understand when I got up. That's what you said. Yeah, but you were also.

[Rosalind]

But I said to her in that moment, I said, gail, please listen. Like, I tried to stop her.

[Romina]

We were also brainwashed by Gail and thinking that I'm.

[Rosalind]

Please listen.

[Romina]

Lost in life.

[Rosalind]

Well, I wasn't brainwashed, but, yeah. So the etiquette coach, I thought she was going to say something, right, to stop Gayle, to.

[Hillary]

You know.

[Rosalind]

That's why I said, please listen. I was trying to stop her from being a train wreck of. On herself saying this horrible, like, bigoted thing is. We don't talk like that, right? In this day and age and ever. Like, unless you want to be.

[Romina]

I didn't hear when Gail said that. I only saw that on the show because she whispered to Rosalind.

[Rachel Yukatel]

What was that like?

[Rosalind]

Well, she didn't whisper it. She didn't whisper it, but you didn't hear it. What was that like for you?

[Romina]

Well, I was like, this woman's crazy. Doesn't she know she's on tv? Like, who says that?

[Maria]

Romina. They did on, like, people can't. A lot of comments came afterwards. They were like, romina, shame on you. Like, why don't you stand up? Like, that wasn't right. And Romina, honestly, when we watched it together, she said, I don't remember her saying that. Like, and I remember that way she

[Romina]

leaned over to her.

[Rosalind]

Yeah, it wasn't like that.

[Maria]

Yeah, but she didn't hear.

[Rosalind]

She said it. Oh, it was okay. Well, she said it.

[Romina]

Yeah, it's fine. I mean, like, listen, her, like, saying Pakistan instead of Uzbekistan. I'm used to that. That's literally the first thing everyone says when I say I'm from Uzbekistan. So that wasn't new. It was more of the fact that like, it was like repeated over and

[Maria]

over and I'm like, damn, it's okay to get it not right, but it's not okay to tell somebody to go back to another country.

[Rosalind]

Which I did correct her in the clothing store, it was Pakistan, and kept

[Romina]

telling her that when I got up and like started crying, the etiquette teacher was inside. I actually went and talked to her and they just didn't air that part. And she was like, you know, she was totally taking my side and she's like, don't worry. Like this is just how some people are. Like, you know, the easiest way is to just smile and nod and do it your way anyway. But like, it was really hard to just smile and nod, y'.

[Rosalind]

All.

[Romina]

She's being so mean.

[Rosalind]

She is mean. I didn't realize that, but I thought she was acting for the show. I really did.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

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[Rachel Yukatel]

So what made you actually have the falling out with her then?

[Rosalind]

So as you can see, in all eight episodes, I was, you know, very supportive. Didn't let anyone say anything or if they did, I didn't want to see it. And then the first minute that she got on television to promote the show, she said and mimicked. She said Rosalind did a blow job, a sexual act with the baton, and she started mimicking it.

[Romina]

Well, we had a lie.

[Maria]

You had to give context.

[Rosalind]

So what happened was. I'll show it to you.

[Maria]

What happened was.

[Rosalind]

And she was actually. Let me say.

[Maria]

But there's no context.

[Rosalind]

Yeah, you didn't explain. She was actually doing it with her hair. And Rosanna Scott said, stop it. Stop it. In the video. Back up. Hold on, hold on.

[Romina]

We did a lot.

[Maria]

So what happened was that. So after Roslyn watched the show, she realized that there were things that didn't align with a lot of your views. So she pulled back a little bit. She was like, wow, that's too much. Gail obviously didn't take kindly to that because we were still all cool and hanging out. So Gail, of course, now is a little bit put off. She starts doing her press. We do a live one night, and we were being cheeky. We were going live. We had these little mini crowns and these batons as props. And we did, like, a little impromptu party. Hold on, let me finish. That was, like, a month later.

[Hillary]

A lot happened before that.

[Maria]

No, but this was literally. It wasn't even a month. It was literally just a couple weeks. So we did this live, and we were like, you know, going live and, like, doing, like, the flutes. We're doing a live, and these girls were dancing. I was DJing at one point. We were dancing, and we were, like, tapping, like, Romina's butt with the baton.

[Hillary]

Right.

[Maria]

Well, the story made it onto the press with where we were giving the baton filet show. And clearly she tried to embellish it because she was hurt. She was pissed off.

[Romina]

She said, we disgraced the baton, and

[Rosalind]

that's where it came from.

[Maria]

That's the best time the baton ever had.

[Rosalind]

She said, I'm taking back the crown and the baton. And she was so mad that they were wearing crowns, too. Like, she thought, this is, like, you know, it was never hers.

[Maria]

This is also a platter. This is also a party.

[Rosalind]

We can all buy a party City crown. We can all buy an Amazon crown,

[Romina]

you know, but she just takes everything so seriously. Like, we're here for fun.

[Rosalind]

We're here. And we've been friends for years. Yeah, years and years. And we're always going to be friends. So, yes, we got. If we went out dancing and Gail wasn't there, she desperately wanted to come

[Hillary]

at first, but it's also too.

[Maria]

That Gail, to your face will be like, darling, I love you this and that. And then behind your back. She'll be like, oh, they're low class and they're trash. Why are you hanging out with them? So that to me, is not a real person. Like, you have to be like the same way to my face and behind my back, like, sorry.

[Rachel Yukatel]

So at the end of the season, we're gonna go back and talk more about the other parts of the season, but there really is some discourse between you two, Hillary and Rosalind. I don't remember that. And you leave on this big hook of whether or not you're gonna blackball somebody and you really find your voice in the last episode.

[Rosalind]

Finally.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Yeah. So a lot of people wanna know, where is the. Your relationship between the two of you now?

[Hillary]

Well, Rosalind and I have talked multiple times, you know, since the end of the show. I was very upset about the way that she spoke about my son's father. It was incredibly hurtful to Cooper. It was right after the premiere and he and I had only gone through episode seven. And then we. I still snuggle in bed with my 22 year old son. He's my only child and he doesn't. He's lost his dad at 16 and we were snuggling. It was like late at night. I said, let's watch last episode. And when the words came out that I really don't want to repeat that, I actually didn't hear either Rosalind say them because her head was turned to the right. And I didn't hear the same thing that happened to you. And maybe that's because of the sound, you know, on the mic, so sounds so much louder than it was actually said. My son started crying, like in my arms. And so I was really mad. And I wasn't mad before. Like, I had had a great time with you at the premiere. So then Rosalind couldn't understand how I went from as friendly as I was at the premiere to being so mad. And we just had to. I just had to pull her aside and tell her the truth. And you were very receptive. She's a mother of five, so she totally got it and apologized to me for that moment, which was all I wanted, you know, I mean, I'm like feel like I want to cry right now because my son is like, literally everybody here knows him and he's such a great kid and he's just so yummy and cute and sweet and everybody loves Cooper, you know, he's just one of those people. And you can understand, like, how disheartening that is for me.

[Rachel Yukatel]

So.

[Hillary]

And it's A sensitive topic for him. Anything having to do with his dad because he's not here anymore to defend himself.

[Rosalind]

Sure.

[Hillary]

So once she apologized to me, I was good. Like, we were good. That's all I wanted. I just wanted her to understand, you know, like, I had to. I had to. And I, you know, I. I hit her hard. Back about something in between that time, which was, you know, simply about the number of times that you had been married, which wasn't really private, but I shouldn't have said it, and I candidly knew it the whole season, and I didn't say it because I don't think it's my business to say it. So I apologized for saying it. You know, I definitely didn't get into the rest of the staff that you talked about on the bio files, but I just simply said you had been married to an Israeli guy before for two years. But that was her information to reveal. I'm very cognizant of the fact that I did that in retaliation, and that's not typically my style, so I did apologize to her for that. So we basically apologized to each other, and we're good. Good.

[Rosalind]

Do you feel like you're good now?

[Rachel Yukatel]

I don't like this minute.

[Romina]

Yeah.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Oh, wow.

[Rosalind]

Okay.

[Hillary]

Well, listen, we're not best friends. We might never, as I said, have a sleepover. But we're. We're. We're not enemies. You know, I'm not mad at her about anything. She's not mad at me about anything. We have very different personalities. Yeah, you know, we. We, you know, we don't really, you know, circle in the same friend group, and so it's cool. I mean, we're on a show together, and, you know, I, you know, respect Rosalind's position on this show. She respects mine, and I think we can work together.

[Rachel Yukatel]

What do you think?

[Rosalind]

Yeah. No. So a few weeks ago, I saw somebody who said, oh, you know, Hillary is trying to dig up dirt on you. So it riled me up in a way. So I. I got really upset because I thought we were cool. But now looking back, you know, maybe I shouldn't believe that. So, you know, I don't want to have an enemy or. And if it's not true, and I'll let that lie.

[Romina]

So I feel like there's always going to be people circling. They're trying to do things to tear us apart, but we have to talk to each other.

[Maria]

I think sometimes, too, words hurt. Like, I think the. And it was not justified at all what Rosalind, in the moment, blurted out that affected your son. But knowing that we've had conversations about it, I think for Rosalind, it was a buildup of weeks where she felt that she was taking hits because she was being isolated and not included, where Hillary made decisions to not invite her to a party or because she has friends that she was trying to respect. So Rosalind felt that she was.

[Hillary]

Well, that happened once at the very beginning of the show.

[Maria]

Right.

[Hillary]

That was eight weeks before that.

[Maria]

Right. But there was tension building the whole time. Like, for weeks, you guys were building it.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Rosalind]

I mean, you did say things, but

[Maria]

that's why she knew it. What I'm saying is.

[Ali Jackson]

Listen.

[Rosalind]

About me. But. Well, but. But.

[Hillary]

We all did. But the. But the wedding.

[Rosalind]

I'm.

[Maria]

Don't. Don't take it. Don't take away from it. I'm trying to explain to you. She literally just yesterday said to me, said to me that that's how she felt. And after a period of time of carrying that, she said that as a retaliation. So just know that she felt targeted, and that's why she bit back.

[Hillary]

Yeah, sure.

[Maria]

So it's almost like it didn't come out of nowhere.

[Rosalind]

And I didn't specifically say it wasn't right. But I don't want to hurt your son.

[Maria]

Of course.

[Rosalind]

Right.

[Hillary]

I mean. And I think kids are off limits, you know, for all of us.

[Rosalind]

You know, I never mentioned him.

[Hillary]

It's talking.

[Romina]

Did you even know that that guy was the father?

[Rosalind]

No, I wasn't.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

No.

[Hillary]

She was talking about his.

[Rosalind]

She was talking about.

[Hillary]

She was talking about his dad. Yeah. And my relationship.

[Rosalind]

I looked at Taja, just to be clear, and I think.

[Romina]

I didn't know that was the.

[Rosalind]

No, she did.

[Romina]

Isn't.

[Rosalind]

No. Yeah.

[Romina]

That child.

[Rosalind]

I just said, you know, would you have somebody, you were 29, who was. And is, you know, 40 years older? And she said, no, I wouldn't.

[Hillary]

No. I'm really sorry, but it was 38 years older.

[Maria]

You just missed the funny.

[Taja]

I don't know.

[Maria]

You just missed the funny that Hillary made.

[Rosalind]

Yeah. You said, no, I wouldn't.

[Maria]

Not 40 anywhere.

[Ali Jackson]

Really hot.

[Hillary]

I just want to say it was totally hot. Look at pictures.

[Maria]

I do it. But I got my mind.

[Taja]

If he was a hot billionaire, maybe I would.

[Rosalind]

Yeah.

[Taja]

I don't know.

[Romina]

I normally don't go. We're allowed to change, but there's always an exception.

[Hillary]

Well, you know, from a kid who came from us, you can imagine he took it personally. That is a very personal comment, and that's why. Because he is a product.

[Rosalind]

But having Fine husband. Obviously it's not your car.

[Hillary]

And I.

[Rosalind]

It's been. But she didn't know if it was.

[Rachel Yukatel]

And they're both hot.

[Hillary]

They're both hot in very different ways.

[Maria]

Like all my men are hot.

[Rachel Yukatel]

It's interesting because there was a sort of feeling there that somebody was suggesting that you were a sugar baby. And you talk a lot about being self made.

[Hillary]

Right.

[Rosalind]

So that probably makes it. I don't want to hear you, but

[Rachel Yukatel]

did that hurt your feelings?

[Hillary]

Well, actually, Gail did. She actually told me that I was a gold digger. And the. The. The fact is. And it's in a book called Richest on. It's a whole chapter about billionaire to bust Pete Musser, who then married his 38 year old younger girlfriend, Hillary Grinker. Okay, We. I did not. I wish I had, but I did not marry a billionaire. Would have been great if he still had a billion when we got married and I would still have a plane.

[Maria]

And that would be really pro billionaire is a lot more rich than a broke billionaire.

[Hillary]

40 million in debt to his company is not a lot more richer than anybody I know. So that's the fact. So it's a long story and you can read about in the book, but having said that, I'm writing my own book.

[Maria]

No, it's in a book.

[Hillary]

Like there's a chapter on that topic.

[Rosalind]

No one is disputing you.

[Maria]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rosalind]

So whatever.

[Hillary]

I'm just saying it's not that much.

[Rosalind]

Is Gale like.

[Hillary]

But it's not that much fun.

[Romina]

This story.

[Maria]

I know it triggers you, so you feel like you overspeak it sometimes, but you're in good company.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Listen, we got it. But I want to go back to.

[Hillary]

Just compare me to Gail.

[Rosalind]

No, just, Just.

[Maria]

That is the ultimate.

[Taja]

As far as I know, Gail only had one husband, so there's nothing to compare here.

[Hillary]

You guys have to retract that. I can't.

[Rachel Yukatel]

I want to go back to something that Maria said, which was that words hurt and people say things and they don't realize that they hurt and they get taken out of context. Since the show, you and Tasha have had some issues.

[Ali Jackson]

Yeah.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Where Taja actually came on my podcast. I asked her a question about a rumor that was everywhere. She gave her response. And you ended up sending her a cease and desist.

[Rosalind]

Yes.

[Rachel Yukatel]

I know that this might be hard to talk about, but I do think it's important to talk about. So do you want to express why you should cease and desist?

[Rosalind]

Yeah. I mean, it's not hard to talk about. Okay. Yes, it was not true. Because you asked her and she said 100%. I mean, they wrote exactly what it was. The cease and desist is extremely narrow. I was only talking about what she had said on your podcast and on another show, and it was like verbatim what she said, and it was untrue.

[Maria]

100.

[Rosalind]

Rosalind's being kicked out of Mar a Lago. That's not trash.

[Taja]

But she asked me, have I heard that? And I said yes before the show. That's what I said. I didn't say that. I know that that's true the way

[Rosalind]

it was said it was. And. And then it was on another show. So it was the two times and

[Taja]

it was no, I was exactly what I said. That's what I was asked.

[Rosalind]

Okay.

[Taja]

How would I know it's true?

[Rosalind]

I don't know. You spoke like you did know.

[Taja]

You did say I said 100.

[Rosalind]

It's true.

[Taja]

Ask me how I heard that since the show.

[Maria]

And I said before the show or not.

[Rosalind]

Okay, I said 100.

[Taja]

I heard that.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Okay, so let's clarify something, because I don't have the transcript in front of me. We can pull it up when we're doing this in post, but I will say if you break that conversation down because I'm friends with you, I very much like you, and I want you guys to be good. And I said to you when I talked to you about this, I think that you should look into why you sent this cease and desist. It was probably embarrassing for you to hear it. You didn't like that rumor being regurgitated, and it was something that you didn't like because you're a member of a club and you don't want people even talking about that.

[Rosalind]

A member in good standing and goodness, it was slandering my name. Okay, she did not start that rumor.

[Rachel Yukatel]

I just want to remind you, because I had read it in four different articles and I chose to have ask her so it wasn't her that started it. And, you know, I understand that that could be hurtful. And of course you don't want to hear that from anyone.

[Rosalind]

It was anonymous. You're no better if you repeat 100%.

[Maria]

No, I'm just saying the way you

[Rosalind]

did answer was it's 100.

[Taja]

You don't send somebody a cease and desist for that. I said 100.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

I've heard that before.

[Rosalind]

After I sent the cease and desist, everything stopped.

[Taja]

Stopped.

[Rosalind]

Not only was there no more talk about that, all of the anonymous sources and every single article, it went away.

[Taja]

Okay, well, That's.

[Rosalind]

And it was very narrow. And it's not about anything else. And you can call me nincompoop.

[Taja]

You can cease and desist to other people because I didn't start that rumor.

[Rachel Yukatel]

So I was only clarifying. She didn't start the rumor, but I think what she was upset by is what she heard clearly, is that you were saying 100%, I know this happened. It's gonna happen.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

I heard it, so I just wanted.

[Romina]

Yeah, but you did make it seem

[Rosalind]

like you knew it was happening. Yes, it's happening.

[Taja]

No, I did not. How would I know that that's happening? I said, let's roll back the tape that I've heard.

[Maria]

It gave you something to talk about, and it sounded very saucy, and you were in it.

[Rachel Yukatel]

So now how do you feel about it? Do you think she's 100% getting.

[Taja]

I have no idea. I don't think about it. It doesn't affect me. I don't care.

[Rosalind]

Good. Let's not think about.

[Romina]

Terrific.

[Rosalind]

Terrific. That's how it should be, because rumors should be rumors and not perpetuated by somebody you think is a friend.

[Taja]

She asked me a question. You're good, period.

[Rachel Yukatel]

So moving forward, do you guys think your relationship can go back to normal? Can be good?

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

Like, where are you guys at?

[Rachel Yukatel]

I've had a lot of questions about the two of you as well.

[Taja]

We haven't spoken yet, so. Yeah, I have no idea.

[Maria]

I don't know.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Well, do you want to. To be friends with her? Let's say you guys get a next season. Will you be friends with her?

[Taja]

I want to be at peace with everyone. Okay.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Well, I know you've had a difficult time since the season aired.

[Rosalind]

Right.

[Rachel Yukatel]

It seemed like on the. On the show, you were friendly with everybody, maybe, except for Gayle. And since the season has happened, it seems like there have been different pods of people and there's been a little conflict. So what do you think you need from the group or from yourself to be able to feel like? I mean, listen, you guys were like, trauma bonded by doing this. When you do a reality show, one couple with people, you get trauma bonded with people. And what I would like for you guys, all, you don't have to love each other, but you realize you go through something, you go through this newfound fame together, and that's a big deal. It's hard all of a sudden to have people that want to be your friends that don't really know you, that

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

you all of a sudden have in

[Rachel Yukatel]

your life that are using you. You don't know who to trust. And quite frankly, you only have yourselves because you're going through the exact same experience just with the five of you, you know, and so it's. It's sad that there's been so much animosity. So I'd love to see some tension.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Maria]

Yeah, I feel that. And this is before the show, because I know that the show does bring a lot of new energy that we could not have anticipated. But I do feel that there are certain dynamics that do make the group friendship challenging because there are certain things within the group where it's. We don't have to think about it. Like, when we get together, you know, Rosalind, Romina, and I, like, it's easy. Like, even Hillary we've invited out a few times. She's been busy. I feel that there are certain dynamics with Taja where there's been an isolation, but it hasn't been like, I'm speaking for myself. It hasn't been on our part where I feel that the energy has shifted because somehow there was a separation. Like, after the show aired, we. You had even said it in interviews where you said, I didn't get as much air time, and my storyline is much more interesting than Romina's etiquette classes. And it just seemed that at that point there was a lot of speaking out against us, like, especially with what we just talked about. And then all of a sudden, you weren't coming around as much. I wasn't hearing from you. And, you know, the things I was hearing, it just. It became a lot of negative energy where, for me, I try to avoid that type of energy. And there's. It just became very competitive. And for me, adult relationships don't look like that. Like, I don't like negative energy. It makes me feel very uncomfortable. I don't like negative talking. You know, just a lot of toxic energy pushes me away. Like, it scares me away. So I feel like I've separated myself from that because I don't like that type of, you know, friendship activity in my life. You know, to be talking, like, poorly about people or this person does. Like, I've even heard stuff about myself that's been said. Like, I hope that I don't want to believe it, and I really don't want to get into it because I don't want to perpetuate, like, stupidity. Like, it feels so fourth grade.

[Hillary]

Sure.

[Rosalind]

You know what I mean?

[Maria]

It feels so mean, girl. But at the end of the day, it's hard to all come together. Five of us and be like, let's do tiktoks. Let's do this, let's do that. When I feel that somebody has separated themselves somehow, inadvertently, and maybe you don't even know it, that's how I feel. Like, do you feel. Because we haven't talked in weeks. Do you feel that it's on my part? No.

[Taja]

I was. After the premiere, I was very inclusive, obviously, and I thought that I didn't really get a good response, especially with what happened with.

[Romina]

She had to pay for the premiere,

[Rosalind]

by the way, she sent.

[Maria]

Helped me pay.

[Romina]

She sent you $1,000?

[Taja]

That was a tip.

[Romina]

I thought I sent. How are you going to say that? That there was a separation when she sent you money?

[Maria]

It's the way she said it.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Hold on.

[Hillary]

Did you.

[Romina]

I'm just trying to understand.

[Rachel Yukatel]

She helped me.

[Romina]

She didn't help you pay, but she sent you money for your party.

[Taja]

That's a tip.

[Romina]

Do you send tips for people's parties?

[Maria]

So did Hillary.

[Hillary]

Of course.

[Taja]

When I go places, there were like 100 employees there. And Hillary. This is how that was. Hillary asked, how are you going to

[Romina]

say that there was separation?

[Taja]

Hillary asked me, do you need anything? Because you're such a great premiere.

[Romina]

Correct.

[Taja]

And you were nice enough to invite everybody with their families and friends.

[Rosalind]

What I said, you know, what did you say? Can you repeat that? I didn't hear it.

[Taja]

So I'm clarifying what she just said, which was, Maria helped me pay for the premiere.

[Ali Jackson]

Yeah.

[Taja]

Which is a joke. So here's how that went. Hillary was nice enough to ask me, do you need anything? You know, after the premiere? And she saw what an amazing party

[Maria]

was before the premiere.

[Romina]

We didn't even know where it was happening, and we were already asking to help pay for it.

[Taja]

Well, she only sent me something after, so I thought it was okay. Anyway, you asked me and I said, tips. That's all tips. Because.

[Maria]

Because you stopped talking to all of us. So Tasha was planning the premiere, and because she got flustered and frustrated that everybody wanted details and she was trying to keep private. So she literally stopped talking to most of us right before the premiere. Because it was the easiest way. It was the easiest way to keep everybody at bay, which. Fine. But now Hillary had signed up the week of the premiere.

[Taja]

That's not true, Hillary.

[Maria]

No.

[Rachel Yukatel]

A couple days.

[Maria]

That's fine.

[Taja]

So what do you mean? Who can.

[Rosalind]

To the premiere? Who can come?

[Taja]

Listen, you had a very nice guest list.

[Rosalind]

I did.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Didn't you?

[Rosalind]

Yes.

[Taja]

So is there a complaint about that?

[Hillary]

This is a different that sounds like a complaint. I would like to just support Tazer here for a minute, if you let me.

[Maria]

Well, I want to. I didn't finish. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. So, just to clarify, Romina maybe didn't say it in a way that you liked when you did the premiere? It was a wonderful event. Beautiful. We wanted to celebrate. The show had just come out. It was. We were getting such great reception, and it was so hard for us to call, to come together and celebrate when the morning after the premiere, I called you and I sent you on the phone.

[Hillary]

I said, thank you.

[Maria]

I said, you did such a great job. And I did. I sent you money I did not get from you. Wait, let me finish.

[Romina]

I texted you.

[Maria]

I sent you money as a tip because Hillary had mentioned it to me. I hadn't even thought about it because we weren't part of the planning. So I had no idea. So when Hillary said to me, hey, just an FYI, you don't have to do this. This is what I'm doing, and I was like, oh, yeah, that's a good idea. So after I spoke to you, I had sent you the money to tip out the staff, because I know that you had planned this party.

[Taja]

You sent a thousand dollars.

[Maria]

I sent a thousand.

[Taja]

Right. And that was very nice.

[Maria]

Listen, even If I said $5, it was beautiful, but I'm not done.

[Taja]

That was for gift. So to say that you're understandable, but

[Maria]

you also threw a party. You also. You also threw a party that. You said, it's my party. You wanted nobody to be involved in it.

[Ali Jackson]

Wait.

[Maria]

You wanted nobody to be involved.

[Taja]

It's my party. I said it's for all of us. And it's a.

[Maria]

You said you're throwing a party. You wanted nobody to be involved. You be involved. Can I finish the sentence, please? And then afterwards, whether I sent you $100 or $1,000 or $10,000, you were going and saying that they did not thank me for the party. They didn't appreciate the party that I threw. I did so much for them. So I find that insulting that if you don't think $1,000 is enough, I'll donate it somewhere else.

[Taja]

No, that's not what I said. So calm down.

[Hillary]

Okay?

[Maria]

I heard from multiple sources.

[Taja]

No, no, no, no. I. Because you made up. I heard rumors that you were saying that I asked you all for money, which I did not.

[Maria]

You didn't ask us for money, so

[Hillary]

that's what I heard.

[Taja]

That is what I heard from everyone.

[Maria]

You didn't ask us for money.

[Taja]

But that's what I heard.

[Maria]

Hillary asked us for money.

[Taja]

That's what I heard.

[Maria]

Well, then.

[Rachel Yukatel]

So she's clarified.

[Taja]

Yeah, so. But I'm telling you what I heard.

[Maria]

Well, then you should have called us.

[Romina]

That you were going around telling people not to be friends with us, but we're not.

[Maria]

Like who? Talking about what?

[Romina]

Like her.

[Maria]

Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

[Romina]

Multiple people who are very close to us said as soon as you met them, you said, don't be friends with Romina and Maria. They're trash.

[Hillary]

And.

[Romina]

But I heard you talking about me

[Maria]

being trash from before we even started

[Taja]

filming, so I know Maria made that up.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

Okay, hold on.

[Taja]

That's what Maria.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Let's settle this. Do you think that these two are trash?

[Maria]

Yeah, she tells me.

[Taja]

I don't.

[Rosalind]

What?

[Maria]

We've had multiple people in town.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Well, yeah. So let's just talk about that. Because the. The start of the show, like, just be honest. You and Hillary would be on the penthouse.

[Maria]

You said she's in the basement.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Just give her a chance.

[Taja]

That is. That's. That's.

[Romina]

Or that a cruise ship or a jail won't happen.

[Taja]

That is just entertainment for a show. That is not. I admire Romina. She knows that I think that she's a strong, like, character. I love that she has the guts to sing and to, you know, like, I really do. I admire her. And she knows that I have supported her and cheerleaded her in the background many times, and she knows that.

[Maria]

But that's not how we do behind the scenes.

[Romina]

Yeah. And like you, you do on the front line.

[Maria]

Like, also the party that I threw with Coco at her house, and you had gone on camera in your interviews, and you basically knocked the party and said that there was no food at the party, which there was lots of food. It was sponsored by a chef. Chef Coco was actually put off because the chef donated so much of his time and efforts for the food.

[Taja]

I didn't see any food.

[Maria]

And you said, well, that. Listen, you were filming. The point is, is that there were so many photos and videos of there being food. And I find it kind of ironic where the parties that you have thrown there has only been sponsored alcohol, like, not an open bar. There's been sushi on a kitchen counter, like, raw with nothing. And I'm thinking you claim to be, like, the hostess with the mostest, and you knock other parties, like, it's not nice.

[Taja]

At my birthday party, I didn't have nice.

[Maria]

It's what party did. I Not have food at. Not nice.

[Taja]

Are you like, I don't know. The Palm Party sponsored all the food there.

[Hillary]

That wasn't her Check that there was.

[Maria]

The premiere party was also sponsored. That's the other thing too, Taj. I like, people gave sponsorships for the premiere. Only had sponsored.

[Romina]

I don't know, whatever. My friends were complaining.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Okay, let's talk about the premiere for a minute.

[Maria]

There's just double standards.

[Taja]

Well, of course the premiere was sponsored. What did you think I was going to pay for it?

[Maria]

Exactly.

[Hillary]

I think we should criticize each other. I think we should criticize each other.

[Maria]

So that's why just be nice.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Okay, guys, hang on. Let's. I want to talk about the premiere for a second. Had you guys seen any of the episodes before the premiere?

[Taja]

I had not.

[Romina]

Okay.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Anyone had it come out?

[Taja]

Yeah, she did.

[Rosalind]

Seven episodes.

[Maria]

Yeah, we watched them.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Okay, so all of you walked in knowing what you were. What the show was a little bit side.

[Taja]

Not because I was really busy.

[Rosalind]

Okay.

[Rachel Yukatel]

I'm just curious because I don't know where we were in our heads of if somebody was mad. So we know because we've all seen the footage that Gail gets escorted out that there were some issues maybe with. With you speaking as well to her. So can we clarify, first of all, can you clarify what happened so that we hear it from you why she was escorted out? And then I want to hear from Mean about your side.

[Taja]

So the check in people at the premiere sent me like videos and pictures of Gail at front as she was entering the premiere, like drinking empty glasses like this of champagne. They asked me, do you know this woman? Can we let her in? I said, yes, let her in. She's part of the chaos. She came in and came straight to the red carpet to talk to Roslyn. And they were talking about suing me. They said, we're. That's not a lie.

[Rosalind]

You're not. I'm in there. What happened?

[Taja]

She said, there's going to be a loss.

[Rosalind]

And what did I tell you?

[Taja]

Suing you on Netflix, that's what.

[Rosalind]

And what did I say? When you walked over, you said you

[Taja]

were telling her to shut up.

[Rosalind]

That's right. Yes, she said it because you said.

[Taja]

But you and her were whispering. And I said, what are you talking about?

[Rosalind]

And I wasn't whispering with her. She came over hot. And I said to her, this is not the time or the place stopped.

[Taja]

Okay?

[Rosalind]

And I watched all eight episodes too. And I was not happy with her anyway. And I was not whispering or in on this I told her, stop. You're not behaving properly. This is a beautiful party. Why would you talk about that?

[Rachel Yukatel]

Why would she talk.

[Hillary]

So when I. I can tell you exactly what you said because I was standing right next to you.

[Rosalind]

Hold on, hold on.

[Taja]

Watch.

[Rosalind]

This is not. I'm gonna tell you, people that are watching.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Hold on, hold on. People that are watching don't understand why Gail was so hot. What was she mad about?

[Rosalind]

She watched it in the car. I don't know. She was watching something in the car.

[Rachel Yukatel]

An episode?

[Rosalind]

Yeah.

[Rachel Yukatel]

And was mad and walked in mad.

[Rosalind]

She was mad about something.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Okay.

[Maria]

About what?

[Taja]

She.

[Maria]

About what?

[Hillary]

You're both right. Okay, you're both right. I'm going to tell you exactly what happened. You're both right.

[Rosalind]

But you weren't there.

[Hillary]

I was standing there. I was standing there.

[Rosalind]

I know, but you only hear bits and pieces.

[Taja]

No, no, no.

[Rosalind]

I told her before she walked in to be nice. She walked in hot.

[Hillary]

She talked about suing two different. She talked about suing two different people. She didn't say whom. She didn't say Taja and. Or Netflix. She didn't mention any names. And then you said in a whisper, not here, Gail, very sternly, that's exactly what happened. And I assumed from that that she was talking about Netflix and she was possibly talking about Taja, but I didn't hear the words Netflix, and I didn't hear the words Tasha, but I did hear you say in a very whisper, not here.

[Rosalind]

Yeah.

[Hillary]

And you said it in a stern way, so you're both right.

[Taja]

And then when I came over, I

[Rosalind]

didn't like her behavior.

[Taja]

Okay. And when I came over, because there was commotion between the two of you, and the security set with her came around. What?

[Maria]

No. I said, you guys are saying the same thing, like she's getting kicked out.

[Taja]

There wasn't sure. And I came over and I said, what's going on?

[Rosalind]

And I told you.

[Taja]

You said, no, nothing, nothing. And then Gail said to me, there's gonna be a lawsuit here tonight. I'm suing you, and I'm suing Netflix. Did you not hear that?

[Rosalind]

I did. She said it. And I'm telling her to stop.

[Maria]

Okay, so she's trying to tell. I didn't hear that part.

[Taja]

I know, I know.

[Rosalind]

Yes. So I had nothing to do with that. I. I would never condone that. I didn't walk in with her. I didn't see what state she was in.

[Taja]

Okay, so she was not in. And the security of the event decided to escort her out because you're 100% right. She was closing a commotion, but on

[Rosalind]

a podcast, two of them were whispering.

[Taja]

Well, you were whispering for quite a while.

[Maria]

It takes long to get stuff out.

[Rosalind]

Okay, well, I was telling her, you're not acting right cool in. Stop it. I mean, how much can I tell somebody to stop their behavior?

[Rachel Yukatel]

So I'm gonna stop you guys right here for a second.

[Romina]

We should thank you for telling Gail to calm down.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Okay, I'm gonna stop you guys right here because I am gonna say, why don't we hear from Gail herself?

[Rosalind]

Yes.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

Guys.

[Taja]

Ladies,

[Rachel Yukatel]

don't say a word. You guys move over one.

[Rosalind]

No.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

Gail,

[Rachel Yukatel]

Gail, Gail, Gail, Gail.

[Rosalind]

So don't say hi. Social. I think you with it. Zero that I could get from you.

[Taja]

You said, I'm suing you, and I'm suing you. No, I did not. There's gonna be a lawsuit tonight.

[Maria]

Roslyn called me and said you have a lawsuit. Roslyn plays what was it?

[Rosalind]

The angel. Hi.

[Rachel Yukatel]

Look at me.

[Rosalind]

Take a break.

[Maria]

Because I actually loved you.

[Rosalind]

You were saying I did sexual act, actually. You're all leverage. I stood up for you for eight episodes till the end.

[Rachel Yukatel]

I know.

[Unknown Moderator/Interviewer]

Yes, I know.

[Maria]

I've checked it all out.

[Rosalind]

You're a leverage to the.

[Taja]

Don't even go there.

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