Members Only Palm Beach: Exclusive Cast Tell-All (Part 2)

Summary

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Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

Episode: Members Only Palm Beach: Exclusive Cast Tell-All (Part 2)

Air Date: March 17, 2026
Host: Rachel Uchitel
Guests: Gail, Maria (DJ Tumbles), Rosalind, Taja, Hillary, Romina

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Episode Overview

This dynamic episode of "Miss Understood" continues the explosive "Members Only Palm Beach" cast reunion, diving deep into the interpersonal dramas, misconceptions, and headline-grabbing moments from the group's reality TV experience. Host Rachel Uchitel moderates candid, raw exchanges between cast members as they grapple with public perceptions, personal grievances, and the impact of fame on their relationships and reputations. The cast addresses controversial incidents, clears up rumors, and attempts to heal old wounds, all while reflecting on growth, vulnerability, and the possibility of a second season.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Fallout from the Premiere Party ([00:45]–[09:30])

• Gail's arrival drama: Stories vary as to why Gail arrived late to the premiere and the ensuing confrontations. Gail claims, “Roslyn called me and said you have a lawsuit” ([05:03] Gail) setting off much of the tension.
• Money for staff and event tips: Taja clarifies she "didn't ask for money" but was collecting tips for staff; Maria contributed $1,000, while donations also went to auction items ([03:25] Taja).
• Lawsuit threats and miscommunication: A recurring theme of threatened lawsuits leads to confusion and unresolved bitterness. Taja asserts, “You said, ‘I’m suing you, and I’m... there’s going to be a lawsuit tonight’” ([09:11] Taja), which Gail denies.

2. Reputation, Rumors & the Quest for Clarity

Gail's Toe-Biting Scandal ([14:12]–[16:20])

• Rachel clarifies the “toe-biting” rumor: Gail recounts, "I fall down and as I’m falling down... she bit my toe. Not off, but bit it. You know, just a stitch type of thing, but... it was just total lie."
• Rachel confirms: “So you never bit anybody’s toe off?” ([16:16] Rachel)
  Gail: “Of course not.” ([16:17] Gail)

Social Hierarchies and Claims to “Grand Dom” Title ([16:20]–[17:14])

• Gail discusses inheriting the title from Palm Beach socialites, explaining it’s a "metaphor"—not a literal crown. She claims, “They gave me all the sponsors... social registers... there was never no such thing. A crown and a baton is a metaphor. Rosin thought it was real...” ([16:28] Gail).

3. Evolving Relationships: Betrayals & Apologies

Breakdown Between Gail & Rosalind ([17:14]–[22:01])

• Resentments aired: Both accuse the other of social climbing and betrayal.
• Rosalind: “You used me. Clearly. I brought you... there's zero that I could get from you. Zero. You don’t have money and don't—” ([17:53] Rosalind)
• Gail’s defense: “I actually loved you with all my heart on public TV... Now they've become yours, but they’ve become both of ours.” ([29:27] Gail).
• Rachel's advice: “If you hear it instead of just hearing what you want to respond to her, then maybe you guys can work something out. Because I think she needs to feel heard.” ([31:17] Rachel)

Apology and Accountability ([24:30]–[26:09])

• Controversial comments: Gail apologizes for her insensitive remarks towards Romina (“Go back to your country”):
  • “It was very, very wrong.” ([25:53] Gail)
  • Romina: “I accept that, dear.” ([25:57] Romina)
  • Gail: “I love you... I would like to be your friend... My apologies.” ([24:52]–[25:57] Gail)

Vulnerability Over the Wig Incident ([26:32]–[27:48])

• Gail explains: “That was the first time I ever wore a wig... Romina, thank you very much. That was very kind of you.” ([26:41] Gail)

4. Identity, Belonging & Status

• Residency disputes: Tensions emerge over who is a true "Palm Beacher." Gail insists, “I lived on the island 15 years... I like Kanye living [on Flagler]. I think Flagler has one of the most beautiful views.” ([13:44]–[13:55] Gail)
• Social rules: Hillary stresses, “I think the entire concept [of a ‘queen’ of Palm Beach] is embarrassing... particularly embarrassing to me... none of us are at the caliber of some of the people... who give hundreds of millions of dollars.” ([34:00]–[35:39] Hillary)

5. Group Dynamics: The Therapy Session ([54:26]–[65:00])

• Maria’s emotional role: “Sometimes when I feel like somebody is an underdog... my nervous system, my auto response is like, that’s how I let go of my stress... it feels so good.” ([51:46] Maria)
• Toward resolution: The cast agrees to try for more direct, empathetic communication (“I just feel sometimes I wish we could dig into our nicer appealing place where we say, hey, you hurt me...” ([54:26] Maria). Taja, hesitant but willing, responds: “We can find resolution as well. But don’t twist it on me.” ([57:03] Taja)

6. Addressing Group “Villain” Narratives & Moving Forward ([59:43]–[64:00])

• Rachel encourages the women to keep outsiders out of internal group drama, emphasizing direct communication to avoid toxic cycles:
  • “If you guys get a season two, you guys got to stick together... Keep everyone else out... Just go directly to each other and say, I’m hearing this, it’s hurting me. As opposed to, fuck you, I’m gonna sue you.” ([61:36] Rachel)

7. Underlying Grievances: Authenticity & Business Competition ([65:00]–[67:54])

• Romina and Taja’s conflict: Romina accuses Taja of copying her fashion business:
  • “I took a lot of time... into producing a clothing brand... Here you are coming in saying, 'I’m a designer, too,' buying clothes from Amazon and putting your name on it.” ([66:14] Romina)
  • Taja rejects the accusation: “No, I do not. I do not. I don’t want to discuss this because it’s an insane accusation...” ([68:01] Taja)

8. Reflections on Personal Growth & the Show’s Impact ([69:05]–[95:00])

Marriage & Life Lessons ([69:05]–[73:26])

• Hillary shares relationship insights:
  • “What makes it work... is he’s amused by me. You have to think that’s cute, because, you know, I’m not your typical wife.” ([69:17] Hillary)
• Focus on gratitude and happiness:
  • Rosalind: “Gratitude makes you realize... I do, I have it all.” ([75:28] Rosalind)
  • Hillary: “Money definitely does not buy you happiness... That’s the thing about men is we can’t look at them and count on them to make us happy.” ([78:59] Hillary)

How the Show Helped Their Personal Brands ([76:41]–[78:31], [85:22]–[92:28])

• Taja: “No, it definitely helped. I’ve got more followers and more sales, didn’t hurt it.” ([76:49] Taja)
• Hillary: “I have had a banner year of four to five times my gross sales of any year I’ve ever had... collaborating with this to eleven nil... now I have four to five more employees, all women. People that have come to me that have wanted to work for the firm since the show, been inspired by what I’m doing.” ([88:56]–[92:28] Hillary)

9. Final Reflections: Hopes for Season 2 & Group Affirmations ([81:08]–end)

• Each woman shares her hopes for Season 2 and pays a genuine compliment to another cast member.
  • Rosalind about Maria: “As I’ve gotten to know you... I have grown to really love you. And I think that we actually do have a lot more in common than people would ever think or see.” ([84:16] Rosalind)
  • Maria about Romina: “You were a constant for me and you always have been. And I am grateful for that because someone like me needs consistency in my friendships.” ([87:01] Maria)
  • Hillary about Taja: “To Taja, the woman who really had my back for the whole show... I appreciate that you not hate me.” ([92:47] Hillary)
  • Romina about Rosalind: “She’s the reason that I’m on the show... even though this group has not always been an easy group... it’s still being a part of a group, and I love that.” ([94:52] Romina)
  • Taja on being misunderstood and growth: “If sometimes I seem like I’m a lone wolf, I grew up an only child... I would like to be more connected. That’s something that I probably need to work on.” ([98:04] Taja)
• Rachel closes: “It is very hard to find new women friends and to find people you can trust. So I think you guys are very lucky that you have each other and I wish for you that you continue those friendships regardless of what happens going forward.” ([99:34] Rachel)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I was passed a title from Mary Lou Whitney... It was at that time, there was never no such thing. A crown and a baton is a metaphor.” — Gail ([16:28])
• “If you want to be heard, it's not a good look for you to come on and start to say things, to hurt anybody in any way possible. So lead with what good you can bring to the table right now.” — Maria to Rosalind ([19:14])
• “Maria, I did not really care for you at first... But as I’ve gotten to know you... I have grown to really love you.” — Rosalind to Maria ([84:16])
• “No, it definitely helped. I've got more followers and more sales and didn’t hurt it, so.” — Taja on the impact of the show ([76:49])
• “What makes it work is... he’s amused by me. Because to know me, you really have to be amused by me.” — Hillary on her marriage ([69:17])
• “I want us all to empower each other. I’m more about collaborating than competing.” — Taja ([96:43])
• “At any age over 18, it is very hard to find new women friends and to find people you can trust.” — Rachel ([99:34])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:45]–[09:30]: Premiere night drama, event money disputes, and lawsuit threats
• [14:12]–[17:14]: Gail addresses “toe-biting” rumor and “Grand Dom” title
• [24:30]–[26:09]: Gail apologizes to Romina for insensitive comments
• [26:32]–[27:48]: The wig incident and cast support
• [31:17]–[32:36]: Rachel mediates an honest exchange, urges listening
• [34:00]–[35:39]: Hillary critiques the Palm Beach “queen” narrative
• [54:26]–[65:00]: Maria’s emotional journey, group reflection, and therapy-like session
• [65:00]–[68:12]: Romina and Taja’s unresolved business competition feud
• [69:05]–[73:26]: Hillary discusses marriages and personal growth
• [76:41]–[78:31]: Taja on the show's impact on her brand
• [81:08]–[99:34]: Season 2 hopes, cast affirmations, final takeaways

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Tone & Style Notes

• The episode is honest, combative at times, but underpinned by moments of vulnerability and aspiration.
• Rachel maintains a direct, empathetic moderating style, guiding the conversation toward reflection and healing.
• The language oscillates between sharp-tongued (“one-hit wonder that needs to stay in Boca” — Gail about Rosalind [43:58]) and heartfelt, especially during the group exercise of affirmations.

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Conclusion

This episode of "Miss Understood" peels back the curtain on the real women behind the Palm Beach headlines and reality TV personas. From accusations and conflicts to apologies and group hugs, it’s an unfiltered look at ego, ambition, and the lifelong journey to find true belonging and understanding—even, or especially, in the ritziest sandboxes. The reunion not only rehashes the juiciest scandals but marks a genuine attempt to rewrite the group's collective narrative, embrace vulnerability, and perhaps, start anew.

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Transcript

[Rachel]

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[Gail]

Hey, Sal. Hank.

[Hillary]

What's going on?

[Gail]

We haven't worked a case in years.

[Maria]

I just bought my car at Carvana,

[Gail]

and it was so easy.

[Rachel]

Too easy.

[Gail]

Think something's up? You tell me. They got thousands of options, found a great car at a great price, and

[Maria]

it got delivered the next day.

[Gail]

It sounds like Carvana just makes it easy to buy your car, Hank.

[Maria]

Yeah, you're right.

[Rachel]

Case closed.

[Maria]

Buy your car today on Carvana. Delivery fees may apply.

[Rachel]

Welcome to the show.

[Gail]

Thank you so much, Rachel. You're absolutely beautiful. And congratulations on your merit.

[Rachel]

Thank you. I really appreciate that. All right, so you've been listening to what everybody's been saying?

[Gail]

Absolutely.

[Rachel]

What. What do you have to say for yourself?

[Gail]

Liar and fit. Kind of.

[Maria]

That's.

[Gail]

I know, but you want to mess this up sometimes, because what you were saying to Roslyn about the premier party. First of all, you know Larry Wall. He owns most of the buildings. And you know Lisa Roland. No, Larry Wall. Okay. My bodyguard, which had videotapes because I didn't get a glass of champagne coming in. But Roslyn called me in the car and said, you have a lawsuit, so get ready when you walk in that door to talk to her.

[Rosalind]

Hillary heard me say, not here. You came in hot. That is not true.

[Taja]

I understand.

[Gail]

Why would Ralph. Well, see, I have a double hip placement, so I wobble a little because they're 40. You know, I did it at 45 years old, so on heels, I'm a little unsteady, but no, Roslyn had smoke coming out of my ears. Yes, I did look for a glass of champagne, but there was no more glasses of champagne since Lisa Roland, Larry Wall, Dottie, and my bodyguard chauffeur were an hour late. So there were not even press releases for us to sign that we didn't. We could use our videos. We can use our photos. So I thought the glasses on a table were, you know, welcoming glass. Like at every party has welcoming glasses. Right?

[Taja]

We did have welcoming glasses.

[Gail]

Well, I came in an hour late, so the girl. That beautiful girl out in front. And it was. It looked like a beautiful party. And you did ask for money through Hillary. And I'm not drawing you out of glass, Hillary.

[Taja]

Did I ask?

[Gail]

I have it on a text. But I only am saying this because I wouldn't. End of the class.

[Rosalind]

Show us the title.

[Rachel]

Are you suggesting that maybe she asked you to?

[Taja]

I asked you.

[Hillary]

I suggested.

[Maria]

I did not ask anybody from intelligent. It wasn't you.

[Rachel]

She wrote it. She wrote it.

[Gail]

So let's and I under the bus.

[Hillary]

No, you didn't. I was. I. I'm very happy to have sent to Taja. What kind of help do you need? You seem to want to do this all yourself. But can we pitch in for the

[Gail]

bodyguard and for her photographers.

[Taja]

I was like 100 employees there that night.

[Hillary]

Let me tell you what.

[Taja]

It was just for tips, but it

[Gail]

was a war party.

[Taja]

When she asked me, do you need any help? All I said was maybe just tips because I was going to tip all the employees there. That's it. So Maria was nice enough. She sent $1,000 and nobody else contributed. But I didn't ask except for Hilary and Maria.

[Rosalind]

Excuse me.

[Taja]

Who did not.

[Rosalind]

She said no.

[Romina]

She gave me money.

[Maria]

She gave me half because I told her I was sending.

[Taja]

And she said, well, that was very nice of you.

[Rosalind]

We didn't give you $1,000 cash. But my husband, he felt it was more important to make a donation there. And he did. He bid on two tickets and he paid $3,500 to the David Cohn Foundation. And he thought that would be appreciate it.

[Taja]

He bought an auction item.

[Rachel]

Right, right.

[Gail]

Everybody buys auction items.

[Rosalind]

But he fell instead of give me a thousand dollars.

[Taja]

Okay, that's very nice.

[Rosalind]

But he was. I never really let him just say

[Maria]

okay, that is clear.

[Rosalind]

Hold on. My husband donated 35.

[Rachel]

Hold on. So what I'd like to be clear about is that we heard before you walked in that you must have seen something.

[Gail]

No, I received a five phone call. Larry Wall sent up the Newsweek. That's why Newsweek actually made a rebuttal about the truth. What happened that night. Okay, and.

[Maria]

But.

[Gail]

But you're telling you that before from two different things TMZ to everything from that she was drunk.

[Taja]

But you were talking about on the way to the premiere.

[Rachel]

On the way to the premiere that you got a call from Ross.

[Taja]

Why amount of the article have come out?

[Romina]

I don't know.

[Rosalind]

You were an hour late while she

[Rachel]

was mixing up her dates. Why were you upset when you got to the party? Trying to figure out.

[Gail]

Because Roslyn called me and said you have a lawsuit. There's an article that just came out that you have and it's terrible about you and that Rosin plays the angel.

[Romina]

Okay.

[Gail]

Roslyn plays the pie.

[Rachel]

We'll get to that. And what I'm trying to figure out was because I think you're. What you're saying is you're mixing up days because.

[Gail]

No, no, I'm not mixing up day or so that was one hour late. And it was a Newsweek article that came out. She told me. So that's why you heard her and I talking, because she was saying, yeah, you have a real lawsuit.

[Rachel]

I did not.

[Gail]

Right here.

[Taja]

But not in between your transportation from wherever you came from to the event.

[Maria]

The premiere was the same day.

[Gail]

I had nothing to drink. I had nothing to drink afterwards. Actually, Melissa Butterworth even walked out with me afterwards. I even saw at the table again, your best friend. Full well, she.

[Taja]

Melissa Butterworth, dm. One of my guests, saying that if you need me to state what happened with Gail, I saw everything. So.

[Rosalind]

So you asked me then why did

[Gail]

she walk out with me?

[Rosalind]

She wanted.

[Maria]

She.

[Taja]

Because it looked like you were, you know, a little wobbly and that you needed help to walk out.

[Rachel]

But can you say

[Rosalind]

somebody's name who's not here?

[Gail]

Dadd.

[Maria]

One of my best friends.

[Gail]

And she's one of my best friends.

[Rosalind]

I'm sorry.

[Rachel]

Sorry.

[Rosalind]

She's not. But she did tell me straight up.

[Maria]

Oh, you're going to tell.

[Gail]

Melissa Butterworth is not one of my

[Rosalind]

best friends, but she did say. I love that she would side with Taja 100%.

[Gail]

Everybody's her best friend.

[Rachel]

Okay, so hold on.

[Rosalind]

Let's.

[Romina]

Gail.

[Rosalind]

Okay, Appreciate.

[Taja]

I got.

[Rosalind]

She.

[Hillary]

Wait.

[Romina]

I want to know what the article said.

[Maria]

What article?

[Romina]

Let's go back to that day that the show was.

[Rachel]

Let me just clarify something to you because I think that what you're talking about is the article about what happened at the premiere. You're talking about what happened after. So what were you. But you couldn't have had enough. What was the article that was so upsetting?

[Gail]

It was Newsweek.

[Rachel]

About what, though? What were you so mad about? I'm trying to get to.

[Gail]

I didn't really get the whole reading. I asked Larry Wahl, because he was sitting in the front with my bodyguard chauffeur to read it.

[Hillary]

Okay.

[Gail]

And you know, so you were mad,

[Rachel]

but you didn't know what you were mad about.

[Gail]

Yeah, exactly. Other than the fact that Roslyn told me I definitely had a lawsuit.

[Maria]

Okay.

[Gail]

Against Hill. Against.

[Rosalind]

That is not true. But in conversations later, I have told her because she was talking about it. If somebody is slandering you, then you do have a lawsuit.

[Rachel]

Got it.

[Rosalind]

But I wasn't talking about that minute.

[Gail]

You have one right now on Taja Bamora Lago.

[Rachel]

We've already talked about it, and we're good.

[Taja]

But I didn't say a word about you before the premiere that you're after.

[Rosalind]

I don't have a lawsuit.

[Taja]

Threatened me. That's the only.

[Gail]

And I apologize to you, but that

[Taja]

was after the premiere. What are you talking about? That happened before.

[Hillary]

She doesn't.

[Rachel]

She doesn't remember.

[Maria]

Just here.

[Romina]

No.

[Gail]

I can show you the article.

[Maria]

Okay.

[Gail]

I just don't have it in front of me.

[Rachel]

So, anyways, you were talking with Rosalind. Hold on. Yes. You guys are good. We all know that. We all did this. Okay, so you had a conversation with Rosalind which upset Tasha and ultimately led to you getting kicked out. Yes. Do you recall that?

[Gail]

Absolutely. Okay.

[Romina]

And you?

[Gail]

I recall apologizing to her, but she still wanted me out.

[Taja]

You did apologize. I did, but it was too late because you had already threatened me, so I didn't know what you were gonna do if you're gonna try and fall or. I couldn't take a chance in a. You know, a mansion that.

[Gail]

Well, you know what? It made for good tv. It made for public.

[Taja]

I didn't say that on purpose, but it's made for. You threatened me. So if you guys were talking about.

[Rachel]

Were you guys still filming at the Mirror? Okay.

[Taja]

Of course not.

[Gail]

I didn't.

[Romina]

Oh, is that why you're here?

[Maria]

You do threaten me with lots of.

[Taja]

With a loss.

[Gail]

There might not be.

[Taja]

You didn't say. No, you didn't say, taja, there might be a lawsuit. You said, I'm suing you, and I'm.

[Gail]

No, I did not.

[Taja]

There's going to be a lawsuit tonight. That is what you said. Did you?

[Gail]

Actually,

[Taja]

Hillary was standing there and a lot of people were saying.

[Hillary]

I. I did hear, but.

[Rachel]

Okay, so we're going to agree to disagree because her memory and your memory and everybody else's memory seems to be different.

[Taja]

No, Hillary remembers very well, and so does Rosalyn, and I.

[Gail]

And I have perfect videos.

[Romina]

Okay.

[Gail]

On absolutely everything. Actually, Lauren Clark, who's here, was a journalist that she did not know that I. You know, I knew and. Because she's one of my handlers right now, but. Right.

[Taja]

You hired her. Yes, I did. I did. I took her phone because she was videotaping me, and it was my party, so I took her phone. That's right.

[Gail]

And. Yeah. And it slapped back into.

[Taja]

Do you have a problem with her? No, No.

[Gail]

I have been on video.

[Rosalind]

She gets.

[Maria]

Okay, so do you feel.

[Rachel]

Do you feel Natasha was trying to.

[Taja]

She could say whatever she wants. Nobody.

[Rachel]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Do you feel like you are physically, you know, threatened by what she did?

[Gail]

Threatened?

[Rachel]

Yeah. You said she took your phone and slapped back in somebody's face.

[Gail]

No, that was one of the journalists.

[Rachel]

I understand, but I'm just trying to get.

[Gail]

But I did not feel threatened by Sasha at all.

[Rachel]

Okay, so. And you're. You're saying that you wobble because of your hip replacement?

[Gail]

Yeah, double hip.

[Rosalind]

And you wear your drink, though?

[Gail]

No, I had no drinks in me.

[Rachel]

Okay, and you don't agree with that?

[Taja]

Well, that's not what I was told because I was called by the check in people asking who she was because she seems to be drinking different champagne glasses outside.

[Gail]

No.

[Taja]

Making that up.

[Gail]

Yeah, no, but I have nothing. And you can ask Lisa. Lisa will be happy to write a statement.

[Hillary]

I don't.

[Gail]

So will Larry Wall. So you don't know who Lisa.

[Maria]

Okay, so, okay, you stated your, you know what you heard, so let's move on.

[Taja]

But I was standing right there, so,

[Maria]

yeah, she's very well.

[Rachel]

So, Gail, let me explain why I have you on here, because as we all know. Excuse me. As we all know, Gayle is actually not part of the cast.

[Gail]

Actually, I am. I signed a two year contract. Okay, so I am not part of the main cast.

[Maria]

There are friends that helped.

[Rachel]

Yeah, you're a friend.

[Gail]

No, no, I sign main cast.

[Maria]

Okay, so yeah, she's main cast. Let's go on.

[Romina]

She signed a contract for a season

[Maria]

we're not approved for yet.

[Rachel]

Okay, so you're sitting here because there's a lot of questions. You were in a lot of scenes. You were somebody that a lot of people talked about. So I feel like this is a good time to get to the bottom. So a lot of those questions. Is that okay with you?

[Gail]

Oh, I'd be very honored.

[Rachel]

Okay, so let's start with a couple things that were talked about on the show. Hillary suggested that you all give your address out.

[Gail]

It's Flagler. I just didn't want to give the exact number due to the fact I don't want to be. To be honest with you, your mother kept sending me threats, so I did not want to put myself in danger as a single woman in a house where my. And also was around Mina with the accident that I did to her, which I apologized 500 million times. It was backstan.

[Maria]

That's what.

[Rachel]

Well, well, we'll get to that.

[Gail]

Just one problem at a time. I did not Want to give the exact address on Flagler. And that home you're building is absolutely spectacular. And I don't have a problem with you, Hillary. I. I respect you very much as a businesswoman and you know, I always had.

[Rachel]

Well, the reason why I'm asking.

[Gail]

Rosalind hated you.

[Rachel]

Okay.

[Gail]

Absolutely. Called all of you, other than Romina, witches. You especially Witch.

[Maria]

I never called her a witch. We got witches together.

[Taja]

Not wrong.

[Gail]

Hillary is the worst person on earth.

[Taja]

Good witches.

[Gail]

So I didn't know you.

[Romina]

Me.

[Maria]

And this doesn't.

[Gail]

But let me make a understand something. I didn't know any of you other than Rosalynn.

[Taja]

So no, we met.

[Gail]

Roz, you might not remember many, many years ago.

[Rachel]

And we did find out that you

[Rosalind]

met Hillary said the episode she was.

[Gail]

I know, but these are many years ago. Hillary didn't remember it. I didn't remember it. You know, we have close friends in Palm beach in common. But no.

[Rachel]

Okay, I just want you to stick to the questions if you don't mind, just so we can go through them

[Maria]

as a quick thing.

[Rachel]

So the reason why I brought up Hillary, you know, mentioning not giving out your address is because you do a lot of conversation towards Romina and. And talking in the show about how important being in Palm beach on the island is, when in fact, you don't live on the island. You live in West Palm Beach.

[Gail]

I lived on the island. 11:39 North Ocean for 15 years. My son went to the day school. I lived on the island.

[Rachel]

No one's saying you didn't. But I'm just. I'm clarifying.

[Gail]

I like Kanye living. I think Flagler has one of the most beautiful views. She wouldn't be selling a $46 million home there.

[Hillary]

Thank you for upping the price. It is 42.

[Gail]

42 for anybody.

[Maria]

That's interesting. No, two and a half for the

[Gail]

one and number 40 from down.

[Hillary]

Wasn't that a great video?

[Rachel]

Okay, let's address. I don't know if all of you guys know this, but there is a story going around about you in the press and it was talked about on my podcast and within your community of Palm beach about a toe biting story. Yes. If you can clarify. Do you. Are you guys aware of this story? A lot of people have suggested that in the Hamptons in her past, she bit somebody's toe off who is the girlfriend or a wife of her ex husband in her former home. And it was a big piece of information that people were given because they said, well, Gail is not who she represents on the show. This is a woman who bites people's toes off. She doesn't have the etiquette that she was trying to, you know, express to you. So tell me this story briefly.

[Romina]

Okay.

[Rachel]

Succinctly.

[Gail]

I was in the middle of a divorce and Tasha and you were on the broadcast and I hate to throw you onto the bus.

[Rachel]

That's fine.

[Gail]

Please do you that actually said it.

[Rachel]

I did.

[Gail]

Taja agreed. But I. My son called me because my husband only had, you know, visitation rights. We had to have someone there at all times because the girlfriend in front of the courts down here. The judge felt that they were both not capable of having my son alone. So he had called me. I quickly drove over to my Hampton house. My husband was not married to this bim. Trust me, she was on every drug on earth. So I run over to grab my son. She attacks me, pushes me down to the ground. I go into cardiac arrest because I've had four ablations to my heart. I fall down and as I'm falling down, I am pushing back with my feet. She bit my toe. Not off, but bit it. You know, just a stitch type of thing, but. And he threw her on a train to get her out, you know, to the mad department. And it was just total lie. It was all reversed.

[Rachel]

So you never been anybody's toe off?

[Maria]

Of course not.

[Rachel]

Okay, just clarify.

[Gail]

Thank you.

[Rachel]

Thank you. You're the self proclaimed grand dom of Palm Beach. Did somebody pass that title on to you?

[Gail]

Not self proclaimed, but I was passed a title from Mary Lou Whitney, Mary Lou Cornelius Vanderbilt Whitney and Joan Beau to take over a few of the charities because we would. And they gave me all the sponsors. So they gave me all the money. Not Only that, Brownie McLean and all the old guard of Palm beach gave me all of their social registers. So, you know, they filled the room for me. So it was extremely easy for me to start. And it was at that time, there was never no such thing. A crown and a baton is a metaphor. Rosin thought it was real, but, you know, she wanted to be a queen. You know, that's going to take a long, long time, not four years.

[Rachel]

So it's interesting that you have this kind of animosity to somebody that you spent the entire show building up and being.

[Gail]

So I'm very sorry.

[Rachel]

So what happened?

[Gail]

I overheard her sit there and lie and lie and lie and she just really, totally social climbed off of me. And even, even Hillary said she brought Gail on, on, on the show to give, you know, things she's going to get credibility From.

[Rosalind]

Okay, so you excused me. I'm the one who has the memberships.

[Maria]

So what?

[Rosalind]

I know.

[Maria]

I had.

[Rosalind]

I had a car before you.

[Rachel]

I don't.

[Gail]

I'm no longer anymore.

[Rosalind]

There was no social time off.

[Hillary]

You.

[Rosalind]

You used me. Clearly. I brought you and I thank you on the show. Yes, exactly. So don't say I socially. And there's zero that I could get from you. Zero. You don't have money and don't.

[Gail]

How do you know? Actually, you're all leveraged. I know. Yes, I know. I've checked it all out. You're leveraged to the house, so don't even go there. I mean, don't you have the real numbers on. Oh, I did. I have a.

[Rosalind]

What I've done for you. That. You are a very mean and despicable woman.

[Gail]

Then why were you in love with me?

[Rosalind]

Because I was.

[Rachel]

She didn't know you.

[Rosalind]

I didn't know you.

[Gail]

This has week after week after week after week.

[Rosalind]

Anybody who has eyes and watches the show sees how loyal I was to you. And I stood up for you and put you on a pedestal, fought with all the girls to my own detriment and stood up for him.

[Gail]

So Joan didn't fight with these girls because you. Because of me. Excuse me. It was because you did not like them. You said mean things about Maria, mean things about Hillary. I mean, she just buried you. She buried you. So I wanted to protect her back because I was grateful that she brought me on the show.

[Taja]

Well, Gail knew the part.

[Maria]

Let me say one thing.

[Rachel]

Hold on.

[Hillary]

Just hold on. That was a great.

[Maria]

Roslyn. Roslyn, I just want to say one thing. If you're trying to be heard, it is not a good look for you to come on and start to say things, to hurt anybody in any way possible. So lead with what good you can bring to the table right now, because this is your platform, and you could say a lot of right things. What's happening right now is not making you look any better. But I feel like you.

[Gail]

You did get sticking up for myself.

[Maria]

So let me say this. By hurting everyone else, you make yourself.

[Gail]

I heard you in the other room.

[Maria]

I heard you know what I said. But let me ask you this. What can you bring? Speak from a place of, like, you were hurt. Okay? So forget about the witches and this and that. What are you feeling? Because I feel. I feel that since the show came out.

[Hillary]

This is me.

[Maria]

Tell me if I'm wrong. I feel that you feel that Rosalind pulled back a little bit because perhaps she Felt like she didn't like the way the show was shown in some way. And when you missed. Said some things to Romina about go back to the country, Roslyn didn't like the fact that, you know, it reflected off of both of you. So she thought, hey, that's not something I said. So I need to pull back because I'm seeing things that I don't agree with. So when you felt the pullback, you felt hurt. Like, you. Did you not feel that you felt hurt? You felt. I didn't say that.

[Rosalind]

You used.

[Gail]

Felt used.

[Maria]

You felt used.

[Gail]

Yes, because, like, even so, Deborah felt like she asked me to really stick up for her and ask for the cash.

[Maria]

Okay, but listen, you know, forget the money. Forget the money. But look at this.

[Rachel]

But that was.

[Gail]

That was after that.

[Rachel]

Stay with Maria. Stay with Maria.

[Maria]

You felt hurt. So then what happened is that you started doing more press and the focus became about us three, specifically, because. Let me ask you something. When we did that live, if I had invited you, like, do you honestly think you would have gone and disparaged us and said stupid things? You probably would have had a great time with us. I personally feel I wasn't jealous. I personally feel you started to feel discarded, and then you became fit. Well, then tell me where this is coming from, because you're throwing a lot of daggers.

[Gail]

No, at my age, no offense, I don't want to go disco dancing with the, you know, show.

[Maria]

Okay, but why are you trying to hurt people right now? Like, so let me ask you.

[Gail]

But Robson kept texting me. You're jealous. You're jealous. I mean, like, really, at my age, I'm going to be in the Avalon or whatever.

[Romina]

You seem to enjoy Avalon and the dancing very much so that night.

[Gail]

Yeah, yeah. But I was out of there early, you know, I mean, you guys, you're young and you should enjoy your life.

[Rosalind]

So the five of us, the main cast, if we have issues, we are discussing them and overcoming that and moving on.

[Maria]

It doesn't get worse.

[Rosalind]

If we're so lucky, we get a second season really soon. We're going to film together and we're going in this. Starting off on a high foot. That we all are good. But you want to destroy everyone and say meaning. So I stood up for you for eight episodes till the end. Like the truest friend in the world

[Gail]

told me also to bring the books to take down Hillary.

[Rosalind]

Tell you to bring the books? Yes.

[Rachel]

So let me stop you right here. Let me.

[Rosalind]

She's a liar.

[Rachel]

What did you see, Gail? On the show when you watched it back, that you feel badly about that.

[Gail]

You like everybody. She kept telling me, everybody's calling me a phony. Everybody's saying you're a phony. A phony, phony, phony.

[Rachel]

Do you think you.

[Gail]

So I was a phony? Yes. It's disgusting. I didn't. I was very. I didn't like the way I treated Romina. I sent her an apology like, 16 times. I, you know, I just. I felt.

[Romina]

You sent me an apology. And then when I said, I don't want to talk about this gal, you said, well, I'm gonna get you off the show. Then that was the last conversation we had.

[Gail]

Show me that.

[Romina]

The last conversation.

[Gail]

I would never. No, that's not true.

[Romina]

You were like, I live on Palm Beach. I'm like, that's really good for you, Gail. I'm very happy. And then you started threatening as if you had sexual.

[Gail]

That's not true. That's not true.

[Romina]

You're nice until you're not.

[Rosalind]

Romita doesn't lie. She said that you said that. I was sitting.

[Gail]

No, and honestly, I'm very proud of you, Romina. I actually think that you've been saying bad things about us over here. No, I have.

[Maria]

You've been in the media on Decider, and you were talking poorly about all sales that we.

[Gail]

Oh, that was with the time.

[Maria]

But you still are. Even last year, if you. All assumption that you collect.

[Gail]

Yeah.

[Maria]

Conversations.

[Rachel]

If you want this, let's talk about Romina and what said about her. Okay. Because you said three things that I can remember. Can you remember what they are?

[Gail]

Well, about Uzbekistan. Go back to your country.

[Romina]

Right.

[Gail]

The. I don't remember the.

[Rachel]

Okay, well, about. You know, we're speaking such good English after.

[Gail]

Yeah, but she's been here for 15 years. I think she speaks such beautiful English.

[Rachel]

Right, but do you see how that sounded when it played back? Like she.

[Taja]

No, I know.

[Gail]

I have a lot of friends that. That come over from different countries. Actually, I'm first generation American. But, you know, I saw the difficulties with. They had just accents.

[Rachel]

Right. Okay.

[Maria]

Looking back.

[Rachel]

Ok, but looking back at the show, can you understand how it could come off? Racist, mean, being a bully? And the question really is, you know, you're from an older generation. This is. No offense. I mean, you know, obviously a very respected older generation. Is it that this is how you feel and you just don't see that you're saying it, or are you saying it to be mean?

[Gail]

No, no, I was very wrong. I apologize to Romina in Texas, that I have in emails or not in emails, I apologize. But in Texas, over and over, to try to let her know that I was truly wrong. You know, it was just a long day. We were exhausted, and quite honestly, Romana, I love you, and I really mean that, and I would like to be your friends, but I don't want to go out at night with you. Please, I have no jealousy about that. I'm very happy to stay home at my age, But I felt badly. I felt that was just the wrong thing. I did not know where Uzbekistan was. My apologies. And I have been a racist. You know, I would do feeding the hungry chair that, you know, well.

[Romina]

I would just suggest in the future never to say to anybody that they

[Maria]

should go back to one of their countries.

[Gail]

It was very, very wrong.

[Rachel]

Can you accept your apology?

[Romina]

I accept that, dear.

[Gail]

Apology. Thank you, sweetheart. And that's why even on the eighth episode, I gave you a hug and I said, you know, I'm so wrong. And I thought we were fine.

[Rachel]

Comments from.

[Gail]

I think you have a fabulous career ahead of you in so many things. Between the fashion and, you know, singing and making music, you're just young and avid.

[Rachel]

That's nice.

[Rosalind]

So if we were showbing, they would do the music. They would show.

[Rachel]

All right. So, Rachel, a lot of people have commented about how you have aged beautifully.

[Gail]

Oh, thank you.

[Rachel]

And you are a beautiful one.

[Maria]

Thank you.

[Rachel]

One of the biggest scenes, though, that they show often is how you fell and your wig came off.

[Gail]

You know, that was the first time I ever wore a wig.

[Rachel]

Okay, well, so I didn't know you

[Gail]

had to put a band under it. And, Romina, thank you very much. That was very kind of you. You know, in the beginning, I took it offensively, but it was very kind of you to send me a wig place, and I thank you for that.

[Rachel]

I want to know what it was like to be in that moment, though.

[Gail]

I was very grateful. Even Taj and I had just had a bad moment, and all the girls really rallied around me. And when I stood up, I said, you know, thank you so much. You're truly beautiful and kind.

[Rachel]

Why? I'm just curious. Why did you start wearing wigs?

[Gail]

Oh, because I was on Snowbirds when we were filming Snowbirds, and the hairdressers kept coloring the gray out of my hair and teasing it and putting extensions in, pulling them out, and it was thinning.

[Rachel]

Got it.

[Gail]

And the girls all wear, you know, not. I just. I don't believe Hillary does. But this is all by wear wigs. I Mean, me, too. The word you're looking for is extension nose toppers.

[Rachel]

Okay.

[Gail]

You know, and so Rosalind was kind enough to give me her wig girl. Romina was kind enough to give me one. And I think it looks pretty damn good.

[Rachel]

You look beautiful.

[Gail]

Thank you.

[Rachel]

Is there anything else that you feel like you need to clear the air about with these girls? I don't feel like you and Rosalynn are 100% there.

[Gail]

I'm very upset and hurt. I never thought Rosalyn would say the things she did when I was sitting outside listening to her. Other than that, I thought we were actually fine. I really needed. And I've been going up to her saying, you know, let's be friends, but, you know, we have to do it.

[Rachel]

Gail, Can I help you?

[Maria]

You've sent a lot of texts. I've seen them. The voicemails and the texts. And you've ripped into her. So she's now speaking in, like, basically in response to that, you know what is so funny?

[Gail]

And you went on, she doesn't invite you to any of the parties.

[Maria]

But listen to me. Throwing evil to people is not going to make things that better. She's responding to the not nice things that you've been sending her.

[Gail]

I don't. I.

[Maria]

No, but you've been sending her not nice things.

[Gail]

No. She keeps saying I'm jealous.

[Maria]

No, no, no. But you're sending her not nice things. I've seen the message. Basically, like, you are. The thing is, like, you don't belong here. You don't belong there. They're coming for.

[Gail]

That is not true. Her phone is right over there. Show me one text.

[Hillary]

No picture.

[Gail]

Our phone is right there.

[Maria]

Talk to each other.

[Rachel]

I don't want you to tell me. I would like you to talk directly.

[Gail]

Okay. I would like you to show me.

[Rachel]

We're not going to do the text right now.

[Gail]

One text.

[Rosalind]

I'm at text.

[Hillary]

We.

[Rachel]

About that, Gail.

[Allie Jackson]

Here's one.

[Gail]

Because it doesn't exist.

[Rachel]

Gail, here's what I'd like to say about this.

[Gail]

It does.

[Rachel]

Gail, look at me. Take a break.

[Gail]

Because I actually loved you with all my heart on public tv. Roslyn, I had loved you very much. I supported you. I introduced you to all my girlfriends in Palm Beach. You think they were all yours. Those are my girlfriends. Okay? Now they've become yours, but they've become both of ours. And I even said to you the other day, let's make this nice. We're, like, in a divorce where our girlfriends are having to make decisions.

[Rosalind]

I don't Put any pen in the middle. Only you do that every week. No, they're fine. You send people videos of me dancing. You say, look how low cloth she is.

[Rachel]

Well, quite honest.

[Rosalind]

I am a dancer.

[Gail]

I have danced things down and up to here. And you're trying to represent Mar A Lago. You're trying to represent Palm Beach.

[Maria]

You're posting videos saying that you're a caviar whore on your social media. Self professed caviar whore.

[Gail]

No, no. I'll tell you what that was about. That was about said that she had an orgasm when she was giving birth

[Taja]

to you, which is a true story.

[Gail]

Yeah, So I was saying I had an orgasm when I was eating caviar.

[Maria]

I know. So why is it.

[Romina]

Okay, so why is that okay?

[Maria]

Let's not shame. Let's not shame women for homosexuality.

[Rosalind]

She's talked.

[Rachel]

Okay, Gail, I'm going to stop you because you got to understand. You speak, but then you don't let people respond. And I'm going to give you a piece of advice. I feel like you're being honest when you talk to her and you say you introduced her to people. And I think you feel hurt or left out or something. And I feel like that's honest from you. But then when it backfires when you're. When you just get an acid. So she heard it. Because we all heard it. And I think you were being real

[Hillary]

when you said it.

[Rachel]

But she also feels a certain way. So just let her say what she feels. And maybe if you hear it instead of just hearing what you want to respond to her, then maybe you guys can work something out. Because I think she needs to feel heard. I think that's the issue.

[Rosalind]

You don't listen and you don't let me speak and you don't respect my boundaries as a person. You do that with a lot of people. I think unknowingly. But I did bring you on the show. I did bring you to the club with me. I am the one who brought you. I took you on the show.

[Gail]

You mean the tickets.

[Rosalind]

Wait a second. Excuse me. No, I treated you to the fashion show at Mar a Lago that you sat next to me. I treated you for the Plays of Hope Bloodshed. Yes. I paid for you. Yes, I did. Yes.

[Romina]

You've never paid. To me,

[Maria]

that's a different conversation.

[Gail]

Because she didn't want the two of you.

[Rosalind]

She didn't want the two of you. Yes, she was. But the truth is that I stood up for you. The viewers only know that they saw up to episode Eight. And Rosalynn was die hard at sticking up for Gail. No matter what you did, you could do no wrong. Even though it's clear now that what you did was bragging or talking or saying. I know there's, you know, whatever Taja said you did.

[Hillary]

Okay.

[Rosalind]

I stood up for you, though. I said, Gail doesn't do any of that to the end.

[Gail]

Like, yes, you.

[Rosalind]

The messages that I get are. They've never seen a friend stick up for someone that much. And the first time that you got on a podcast and got some media. Who do you trash? You trash me.

[Gail]

No, I trashed the.

[Rosalind]

You trashed me. You said I did a blowjob to the paternity.

[Gail]

No, I did not.

[Rosalind]

You did, actually. We have it. And you did. And you made.

[Romina]

Not you.

[Gail]

You did not. You.

[Rosalind]

You said Rosalind did a blow job.

[Gail]

I'm sorry, but you said Rosalynn.

[Hillary]

You meant me in your head.

[Rosalind]

You said Rosalynn gave a blessing.

[Maria]

No, you.

[Gail]

You kept tapping. And I heard you even admit on film that you were tapping Maria's ass with it. But you know what?

[Maria]

This was ridiculous.

[Gail]

And everybody wants to be in Palm Beach. And in Palm beach, you know, we respect. Even though it's a metaphor of the crown of the baton, but we respect certain metaphors and we don't mock them. You know, there's.

[Rachel]

But we weren't mocking.

[Gail]

We were just having fun.

[Rachel]

I know girls, you know, I'm.

[Maria]

You said you don't go out. This is like palm beach after 8 o'. Clock.

[Rosalind]

I am very happy.

[Gail]

I got to ask Hillary's opinion.

[Romina]

Do you think?

[Gail]

Well, we both know it's a metaphor because it's Tiara's, but if someone receives a crown.

[Hillary]

You really want my opinion? Yes. I think that the entire concept is embarrassing to me.

[Gail]

Embarrassing.

[Hillary]

Let me finish. And please don't talk over me, because

[Rachel]

I don't stand for it.

[Hillary]

I think that the entire thing is embarrassing. It's particularly embarrassing to me because I spend a lot of time on the island. I think that one of the reasons that the people on the island are so offended is because of the whole queen thing. I certainly didn't ask for that. And additionally, when I was asked personally, do you think you are the queen of Palm Beach? My answer to that question in the chair. Okay. Was, I absolutely do not think I'm

[Gail]

the queen of Palm beach. And I'm not the queen.

[Hillary]

Let me finish. I do not think I'm the queen of Palm Beach. And the only queen I know is Elizabeth. And unfortunately, she just passed away. And there's probably a couple of other queens in the world. Like, there is a Queen of Holland, actually. And I couldn't remember what other queens there were, but I find it insulting to depict that any of us would even remotely be the Queen of Palm beach, because none of us are even at the caliber or ever were at the caliber of some of the people who are very good friends of mine who give hundreds of millions of dollars towards charities. And I find the whole charitable thing also a little joke. Let me finish. Despicable and embarrassing because of all the people that I'm close with who do put out all this money and time and effort that really is needed to support those charities in Palm beach, and none of them are in this room and never were in this room.

[Gail]

She's been here for years.

[Hillary]

So I would just like to say, having sat on many committees, and by the way, I downplayed the charity thing because I was so horrified by it, but I'm on five or six different charities this year. But you know what? It doesn't really matter. You know, I don't like to pontificate about it. I just do whatever I do for

[Taja]

friends who ask me, and that's wonderful.

[Hillary]

And I think I'm doing Wags to Riches Saturday. If anybody wants to come, I'm willing. And. And I think that the notion was comical, but it was taken too far.

[Gail]

It was taken too far.

[Hillary]

And I think one of the reasons that we've taken such a hit on the island is because it was taken too far.

[Gail]

Exactly.

[Hillary]

And so I'm particularly emotional on the topic because I don't, like.

[Gail]

I agree with you.

[Hillary]

To feel like I'm presented as thinking that I am the queen upon beast.

[Maria]

Exactly.

[Hillary]

And as.

[Gail]

But Roslyn did think she was.

[Hillary]

But becoming. Let me finish.

[Maria]

You proved her.

[Hillary]

No, let me finish. Like even. Let me just say this. Like, even on the poster, you know, I'm in the middle of this poster where it says, who's the Queen of Palm Beach? And it kind of makes me look like I think I am. And I'm sensitive about that because I definitely don't think I am. And my comments about it. Let me finish. I definitely don't think I am. And when I was in the chair, I said it and it got cut. And I would like for that to have been on there because I think I took a hit from a couple people about that time.

[Rachel]

Oh, yeah.

[Hillary]

And so for me, it's very personal. And I live here year round and I spend a lot more time here than you do. And I, you know, and I, at least in recent years, because I know you used to spend a lot more time. I've spent a lot more time with these people than anybody here, and I've taken the biggest hit for that.

[Romina]

So you care that we were playing with the batons in a.

[Maria]

In a. I think it's a joke.

[Hillary]

No, at least that, at least.

[Maria]

At least that's good in Palm beach

[Hillary]

because it is a joke.

[Romina]

Made it a joke.

[Gail]

Do you actually, Hillary, think that if somebody's doing this to.

[Hillary]

I don't watch anybody's Instagram and I don't watch any of these podcasts.

[Rachel]

And the only podcast.

[Hillary]

The only podcast I watched.

[Gail]

Yeah.

[Hillary]

Was Rosalind's because we were in our

[Maria]

own back and forth and Rachel's all the time.

[Hillary]

I love Rachel, but I am not particularly filled with lots of time to watch Instagram and podcasts and things like that. Right now I'm trying to sell my 42 and a half million dollar gorgeous mansion on the water.

[Maria]

That's inappropriate.

[Rachel]

No, because, guys, let's not do a side conversation. Sorry.

[Rosalind]

So you're just talking now, but the truth is, you were on every podcast saying, I did sexual acts with the baton. You're taking back the crown. I didn't say you did. And you went on. You went on Mike, I forgot this show, Philadelphia. And you, He. You said to him that Rosalind Yellen was doing sexual acts. You're taking back the crown of baton. So you were acting like it's real. When I saw it, I laughed and laughed and I kept saying, it's a metaphor and chair. I also said, of course, I'm not the queen, but thank you.

[Hillary]

I don't accuse you of any of that.

[Rosalind]

Yes, I know. I know. Just to be clear.

[Rachel]

And I just want to help you out a little bit, because the thing is, is that we watch you on me as a viewer, and viewers watch you on the show and assume it's a part. Right. But then when you come off the show and you're still talking about them and the baton as it's a real thing, and, you know, you go and your Instagram is filled with you being the Grand Dom of Palm Beach. I'm not Polo. No. I'm just. I'm trying to have you understand why I think people get offended or confused, because I think they think you really do think this, and you think there's all these rules and that you don't have much to say besides that. And I think that's where it comes Off. Wrong. Because, you know, you have a lot more to you, but no one knows about it yet because you talk about all these other things or you talk about what you used to do in the past. So I think that's where the disconnect is. And so I'd like to see more from you. So, last question I'm going to have for you. Two last questions. Are there rules in Palm Beach?

[Gail]

Actually, they really are. And even Hillary said it on an episode, you know. Right. Actually, on the streamer, she told father, there are rules.

[Rachel]

What are. What do you think are the rules? The real rules?

[Rosalind]

You know what?

[Gail]

Palm beach has changed so much with all this money coming in. I mean, Hillary is a Palm beach, so that's why I'm looking at her. But I think with all this money coming in, that. That the island, which normally it was, you know, dress codes, who you're with, just that kind of thing, but now it's changed. It's.

[Maria]

It's.

[Gail]

It's opened up to, you know, for everybody.

[Rachel]

Okay, that's interesting. All right, lastly, if there is a season two, what do you. And you said you signed a contract. Nobody freak out here. If you said you sign a contract for a second year of the season, we don't know if you have. But do you see a storyline for yourself as a. As a main character?

[Gail]

I'd like to be friends with all the girls.

[Rachel]

Okay.

[Gail]

You know, they didn't get to know me because honestly, I thought I was always. She put me on the show, didn't get to know anybody. I always had her back when she would tell me this person or that person, or Hillary. Especially Hillary, you know, Taja. Especially Taja.

[Rosalind]

He'd never had to.

[Gail]

I took that, you know, that side, and I'm. And I apologize to all of these cadets, because that was wrong. I really am just a normal girl. I don't say I'm wealthy. I don't say I don't brag. I don't need to drive a Rolls Royce. Actually, if I want one, I can get one. You know, it's like a joke. I do this, you know, and if I wanted a house in Highland on the highway, I could get one. You know, I don't need that. I don't need the slush. I'm just a normal.

[Maria]

You're just a person.

[Gail]

I'm a businesswoman.

[Rachel]

Yeah. You actually told me that you are business, that you are a backyard barbecue type of girl.

[Gail]

Oh, I am, definitely.

[Rachel]

Okay.

[Taja]

Can I ask one thing?

[Hillary]

Sure.

[Taja]

Because, you know, you said before that you went all over the press saying that I'm a liar, that you never threatened me at my event. Which that is not proper etiquette. But then you just said you apologize. So what were you apologizing for?

[Rachel]

Is.

[Gail]

I was like, I'm trying to make us all friends.

[Taja]

No, but you apologize there on the red. You were saying, I'm so sorry. Did you hear her say about. Do you remember that?

[Maria]

No.

[Taja]

You said, gail, it's too late for the apology at the premiere.

[Gail]

Did I.

[Hillary]

Did I follow you? I just stood at the thing. I didn't follow.

[Taja]

You said, it's a little too late for that. You can't backtrack. So what were you apologizing for if you never threatened me?

[Gail]

Because I wanted to stay. My girlfriends were all in there. You know, I had Karen in there. I had me to.

[Taja]

Wrong. I hope you learned a lesson, Dottie. I just hope you learned a lesson. Cause you did threaten me.

[Gail]

I threatened you. Not physically, that there might be a lawsuit coming.

[Hillary]

But that's a threat.

[Gail]

But I didn't.

[Taja]

Is that not a threat?

[Gail]

I didn't even know until I went to read it.

[Rachel]

She's saying, have you learned the lesson that maybe you shouldn't threaten a lawsuit if you don't even know what you're threatening?

[Gail]

I don't believe anybody should threaten a lawsuit. I don't know why she has one against her. She did also threaten to lawsuit against

[Taja]

me for defamation and character, because I was not.

[Gail]

I mean, Roslyn is into lawsuit. Lawsuit, lawsuit.

[Rosalind]

I've never sued anyone in my life and I've never been sued.

[Gail]

Well, you did threaten me with defamation of character.

[Rosalind]

You were saying? I did sexual acts.

[Gail]

You threatened. You did.

[Rosalind]

But it was cease and desist. How do you like that? Your body. Because everyone knows you're a joke. So there you go.

[Gail]

You know what, Blossom? You're the joke.

[Maria]

And you're.

[Gail]

You're a one. You're a one year blood.

[Hillary]

It's too toxic.

[Maria]

It's too toxic

[Gail]

in Palm Beach.

[Maria]

Get through your two.

[Gail]

Your two events, Broslin, and you're gonna see you're a one hit wonder that needs to stay in Boca.

[Rachel]

Okay with that, we're gonna take a Boca, okay? And everyone's gonna say goodbye. Goodbye together.

[Maria]

That's all they say.

[Rosalind]

You should be embarrassed if you're down, George, you should look in the mirror.

[Maria]

Yeah.

[Rosalind]

Yes.

[Gail]

You should look at the video.

[Rosalind]

I don't talk about you to anybody. But you are sending everyone videos.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Maria]

Okay, listen, you don't want.

[Gail]

Exactly why her stay here.

[Rosalind]

We're talking season two like a really. Okay, George, I'm acting like a she said.

[Maria]

But you see now you know how she got kicked out.

[Rosalind]

I'm married at I know

[Maria]

I know my name.

[Rosalind]

Jonathan she just said that I'm acting

[Rachel]

like a whore in this video.

[Rosalind]

Yes, she just said it.

[Hillary]

Roslyn yeah, look at me.

[Rosalind]

My husband is with me when I'm dancing and he loves it.

[Rachel]

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[Taja]

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[Rachel]

Okay, so that was really interesting having Gail here. All of you had a lot of feelings about that. They. They are suggesting you should become a therapist. So let's talk to you for a second because we haven't talked a lot to you.

[Maria]

Highly unqualified. Let's go.

[Rachel]

What did you think after the show came out? How did it affect your business?

[Maria]

I mean, when I watched the show, I was happy like with everything with the show. Obviously I saw things that I wasn't a part of. Like you watch scenes that you weren't part of film. So I don't like to watch myself on television. I don't like to listen to my voice recorded. I'm just one of those people is the thing. So I Wasn't planning on watching this show, which my husband thought was ridiculous, but he did make sense. He said to me, well, how are you gonna know how to respond to the ladies? Like, how do you gonna know what happened? I'm like, oh, damn it. Right?

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Maria]

So that's the only reason why I sat down and watched the whole, like, all eight episodes. But I was happy. I feel like I was depicted accurately.

[Gail]

Okay.

[Maria]

I. Listen, I was kind of, like, surprised by some of the things that people said in their, like, interviews. I was like, oh, no, she didn't. Touche. But I also. I wasn't surprised because I know what I signed up for. And at the end of the day, I felt like even when we were at interviews, we were all a little cheeky.

[Rachel]

Right?

[Maria]

You know, I mean, that's what kind of makes our friend group fun, is like, you know, a little kiss, a little, like, you know, tap on the cheek or whatever. So I was happy with it. And I feel like the response that we got afterwards, I was very surprised is that I ended up getting a huge influx, like, influx of, like, great reception from viewers.

[Rachel]

Right.

[Maria]

And I did not think that that would be the case because when we wrapped filming, I said to myself, I was kind of, like, down on myself because I thought, gosh, I wish I didn't cry as much. Like,

[Rachel]

I love you.

[Rosalind]

It's okay now.

[Maria]

But I'll tell you why, because I feel like. To explain.

[Rachel]

Okay.

[Romina]

She really doesn't cry this much in normal life.

[Maria]

No. I'll tell you what, you can.

[Romina]

Sorry.

[Maria]

So, like, even now, when Rosalind was sitting next to me and I could hear, like, when Gail was talking or other people were talking, and I could heal, I could hear, like, Rosalind breathing next to me. And it's like, literally, I can hear her breathing change. Like, when she's in that mode of, like, wanting to respond or she feels. And I can hear it now, her breathing. So it's like everybody regulates their nervous system differently. And I feel like, for me, because I'm extremely. I'm very adhd, and I'm very, like, emotionally expressive. So when I'm either really happy or really sad or if I'm very passionate about something, my nervous system, like, it's always, like, up, down, like, you think it's a lot of work. You should see my husband. He's like, oh, God. He's like, what's going on?

[Rachel]

Now he's got.

[Maria]

Come sit down.

[Rachel]

That's a good man.

[Maria]

So I'm just.

[Rosalind]

Thank you.

[Maria]

I know Greg is the Same. So I just feel like sometimes when I feel like somebody is an underdog or being ganged up on or if I feel like even now, like, you ask me a question and if I thank you, if I feel misunderstood. Misunderstood. I feel like my nervous system, my auto response is like, that's how I let go of my stress. Like, when I hear you going, like, for me, it's just like, as soon as I let the tears out, it feels so good.

[Romina]

Yeah.

[Maria]

Like, even when I'm happy, sometimes I cry and I'm like, it's for somebody. I'm like, that's so beautiful.

[Rachel]

I feel like you're an empath. Like, you know, you have a lot of empathy and it comes out in an emotion.

[Maria]

Right.

[Rachel]

And I know that there was, you know, at the beginning of the show, too, there was a lot of talk about you were too emotional and whether or not that was real, but it clearly seemed like for you it's real and that's how you express yourself. And maybe it's triggered by childhood trauma. Maybe it's just because you're an empath and you feel a lot, all of it.

[Maria]

Yeah, I agree. And listen, I do agree. Like, I watched the show back. Would there have been times that I wished that I didn't cry? In certain moments? Yes. Are there times that I did cry? And I wish that, you know, maybe some people were more empathetic at the time that I was crying. Of course.

[Hillary]

But at the end of the day,

[Maria]

I see both signs. Like, I do agree that there are appropriate times, and I wish if I could somehow retrain my nervous. I've worked my whole life, and I'm like, work in progress. If I could somehow learn how to hold that in at a dinner table where, you know, I'm at someone's home, that's goals for me. Like, if I could do that and one day be able to achieve that, I love to take that home and unpack it at home. Like, I don't like to unpack stuff like when I'm out sometimes. You know what I mean?

[Rachel]

But to see it as a positive, I mean, I know it's like something you want to work on, but it makes you very relatable and it makes people feel for you, and it makes people feel like, oh, I know that feeling, you know, because you're authentic in whatever way you feel you need to be.

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Maria]

And I do want you to come

[Rachel]

away from the show feeling like that's something you need to change.

[Maria]

No, I. I feel like it's something That I would love to not to so much, like, suppress, just to be a little bit more understood for it and to learn how to refine it a little bit. Yeah. But I do love that all the people that reached out. I have, like, so many messages that people wrote. Stories, like paragraphs, similar stories, or, you know, thanking me for being real and raw. Because I feel like, especially Palm Beach, a lot of the representation of Palm beach is people are superficial, people are not themselves. People don't feel comfortable saying, I feel, you know, you know, isolated. Today I feel fat. Today I don't feel pretty. Today I don't have friends. Can I sit at the lunch table? Like, our vulnerabilities are something that we hold inside all the time. So for me, it feels good sometimes to say, hey, I don't feel okay today. Like, hey, I don't feel like you're being a good friend today. Like, hey, like, when Hillary and I talked after we finished rap, like filming, we sat on the phone one night. I honestly feel like it was almost four hours. Like, we were on.

[Gail]

It was four hours.

[Maria]

My husband fell asleep on the couch and he woke up and he's like, God, are you guys still on the phone? But it was such a great phone conversation because we bonded in that call. And, you know, we probably both said a couple of like, f bombs, but we both, like, spoke in understanding one another and like, you know, being vulnerable, not being vulnerable. And at the end of the day, I feel like sometimes I know some people are like, oh, God, here goes Maria. She's therapist again. I can't help but want to appeal to people sometimes when I feel that they too have something. Like, for example, I spoke earlier about the tension with Tasha, and I really want to say this to you directly because I haven't had a chance to, like, tell you. So I feel that there has been some tension where there's been some divide and we haven't talked in the past several weeks. I wish that wasn't true. You know what I mean? I wish that we were on good terms and people see us hanging out, we're doing tiktoks, and I wish it could be with all you guys. I know you probably don't want to do a tick tock with us, but whatever. But what I'm saying is, is that I feel like sometimes there's always going to be a time that one of us is not happy, one of us is not mad at the other person or whatever. I just feel sometimes I wish we could maybe dig into our nicer Appealing place where we say, hey, you know, you hurt me, or. And I feel like I don't have that comfort with you. Like, I feel like sometimes if I feel a certain way, I don't feel that our friendship feels safe for me to, like, be like, hey, this is what I'm feeling, or this is what I heard, because I feel like the invitation emotionally hasn't been there from you because we all keep ourselves differently. So maybe for you, you like to kind of navigate a certain way because you don't like all that mushy stuff or. I don't know. I just. I personally, it's a me thing. I don't feel like I have that comfort to, like, come and try to appeal to you in that regard. But also, too, it's like, I feel like a lot of times when stuff does happen, you do go into, like, this very, like, masculine space. And I feel like I'm always digging into my inner child. I feel like I do have trauma from my childhood. And you've spoken about it a little bit. I feel like sometimes when you do throw daggers, is it coming from, like, a place where, hey, you know what they always say? Hurt people, hurt people. Like, and I think to myself, maybe Taja's not meaning to, like, not be nice right now. You know what I mean? Maybe that's, like, a defense mechanism.

[Taja]

Well, I don't think that it was always like this with us. I think that you. When you cried in that scene out of Hillsby's house, like, I cried, too. Like, I was upset seeing you upset. So I don't think that's the case. Maybe now because of things that I've heard.

[Gail]

You heard.

[Taja]

He said, she said. I don't want to talk about that. Like, this group has had a lot of conflict.

[Maria]

I agree.

[Taja]

And we can find resolution as well. But don't twist it on me.

[Maria]

No, no, no, I'm not twisting it. What I'm trying to say is that it has been like, I have found an in with everybody so far. And it was a puzzle piece for me to work out with Hillary. It was a puzzle piece for me to work out with Roslyn because I didn't have that in the bed.

[Hillary]

I get that, but.

[Maria]

So what I'm saying is you're the one puzzle piece.

[Taja]

But we've had that in the. We have figured that out in the past, haven't we?

[Maria]

I don't think. I don't think we've ever 100% figured it out.

[Taja]

I feel like maybe not 100%.

[Maria]

We've always come out of the gate, and then it's. There's always been something that's happened, and then we restarted. So I feel like.

[Taja]

So we'll just have to restart again. That's just what you want.

[Rachel]

Are you open to restarting?

[Hillary]

Of course.

[Taja]

I'm always open to.

[Rachel]

Is that okay with you?

[Taja]

All positive things?

[Maria]

Yeah, it is. I mean, I just. You know what I like about the group? What I appreciate is that, you know, like, you're always going to hear things from other people. I do value when somebody can say to me, hey, yeah, you know what? I did say that. Or I didn't say it like that. But, yeah, you know what? You did piss me off. So I wasn't happy. And I feel like those are, like, adult conversations that you could have with people. But I find it difficult sometimes when it's a situation where if I'm, you know, if people tell. Are telling me that you're saying not nice things about us. Oh, my God.

[Taja]

I can't tell you how many people say that about you. About me. Listen, it goes in one ear and out the other.

[Gail]

I don't want to hear it.

[Maria]

But I mean, listen, I will be honest with you. Yeah. They're in the past several weeks, when there are known things that there's discord, and I know for a fact that it is coming from your side. And I'm hurt, and I'm like, that's not cool. Tasha can be hurtful. Tasha's not a nice person. I do say these things. I'm actually admitting it. I'm admitting it. I do say these things. But when the other side is. There's no accountability, and for two years, for there to be that you've never once said, it's. It's hard to feel that you're authentic. It's hard to feel that there's any investment other than just one side. Like, just. That's it. This is all you get. And it's hard to connect. We talked about this, but like I

[Taja]

said, maybe that's how it's been recently, because I've had enough of the he said, she said. I don't want to bring up all the bad things you've said about her and all the bad things she said.

[Maria]

We talked about it.

[Rosalind]

I.

[Maria]

We talked about it.

[Taja]

I don't. It's so negative that I can't even do the he said, she said.

[Maria]

But this is what I really can.

[Taja]

And that's not inauthentic. It's a waste of my time and energy. I Don't put energy into negative things if you want, because that's not how you resolve.

[Maria]

This is how people are feeling. I'm telling you how I'm feeling.

[Rachel]

Okay, so let me stop you. Can I just help for a second? I think she's trying. She acknowledges that she said bad things and other people have, and she's admitting that. I think what she's trying to say to you is she wants more from you. She wants more from your friendship. She wants to be better friends. Forget what happened in the past. Let's all.

[Taja]

And they just said, I'm open to moving forward. So I talk about the past.

[Rachel]

So I. Because I think you're suggesting that that happened in the past.

[Maria]

It didn't happen.

[Taja]

And what didn't happen.

[Maria]

She's suggesting that none of it happened. Like, what I'm saying doesn't exist.

[Rachel]

Right. So she's just asking for you to be open to moving forward and being better friends. And something I would say to all of you, I mean, you don't have to listen to me, but listening to all of you guys talk, again, I bring up this shared trauma bond. I would suggest if people talk in to you guys that you don't know, that, you know, maybe say, yeah, I understand that's how you thought of Maria or Taja or Hillary on the show. But you know what? I know them. I have my opinion. I was there. I don't want to get into it, you know, because you guys are the glue that holds this together. If you guys get a season two, you guys got to stick together. I mean, you don't have to have a villain. You know, all of you guys want to do well and should. I mean, I know human nature. It's hard to want everyone to do well right Again. And you guys are all very different people. But the bottom line is my suggestion going forward. I feel like you guys all want to try to have some semblance of niceties between you, and it would be helpful that when someone says to you someone said something, whatever about them to be like, you know what? You're not being a good friend right now because it's starting up bullshit with me and Marie, you know, if somebody says something to you, you could be like, you know what? I know Taja. I don't want to hear it. Like, you know, Taja's a friend of mine. We have our own issues, but you don't need to tell me, you know, so, like, keep everyone else out when it comes to you. Fine is my suggestion. I think it'd be better because. And then just go directly to each other and say, I'm hearing this, it's hurting me. As opposed to, fuck you, I'm gonna sue you.

[Hillary]

But in between each other, too.

[Taja]

Yes, and between each other to say each other. That's kind of why I've been staying away, because I didn't want to hear the. Between us. Also because I was thinking, like in

[Maria]

the media, though, like, you were still talking of us, not with us.

[Rachel]

But also she's seeing the three of you guys on, you know, certain posts, and then it's.

[Hillary]

Maybe.

[Maria]

But this was before.

[Rachel]

This was right out of the gate. I get it. I'm just saying, leading up to. So here we are now.

[Taja]

No, that happened actually right out the gate.

[Hillary]

What do you mean?

[Maria]

The media that you did?

[Taja]

No, like the. Immediately like.

[Maria]

Well, yeah, because.

[Taja]

No, because this is what happens before every. Like before we filmed the presentation. It was like a group. Let's go against Taja. And then if that's how you feel,

[Maria]

if everybody sees something one way and you see it differently.

[Hillary]

Listen, listen, I was talking about the first party.

[Romina]

Okay? But it wasn't going.

[Hillary]

You had to.

[Rosalind]

I wasn't against you. I was there. Yes.

[Rachel]

I wasn't excluded.

[Romina]

You weren't there.

[Hillary]

I think that Taja, at my house at the Mille Miele, felt very picked on. I remember that. And you know what? I then became a picked on person and Taja stood up for me. I think for me, it's really unusual with this group to feel like I'm actually in the middle all of a sudden. And I don't want to be in the middle of the three of you and Tasha.

[Maria]

And that's how part of that party,

[Rosalind]

you and I in the middle with

[Maria]

me, you and I talked.

[Taja]

I actually apologized.

[Romina]

Yeah.

[Taja]

Yes.

[Hillary]

But for.

[Taja]

For like having that group, that original group, go against me. Don't you remember? That was. You said I should have minded my own business.

[Rachel]

Oh.

[Hillary]

With the other two girls.

[Maria]

What do you mean, some of my own business?

[Rachel]

Can I speak?

[Taja]

That's what you said.

[Rosalind]

Listen,

[Maria]

we're not going back.

[Taja]

But I'm. But. But you're saying how you feel, so I'm telling you how I feel.

[Maria]

But this is what I'm saying.

[Taja]

Your feelings. And I'm telling you about my feelings. All right? So moving forward, I would like to have resolution. We had a conflict. Let's focus on a solution. I'm not.

[Maria]

What I'm saying is, is that. What I'm saying is, is that because you said recently that you Feel isolated like you. But I feel like you don't see that you put yourself on that island possibly.

[Taja]

Okay, well, I'm not.

[Hillary]

Good.

[Maria]

That's the most beautiful thing you've ever said. That's the most beautiful.

[Hillary]

Okay.

[Rachel]

Romina, hold on one second. Romina, do you have something you would like to add?

[Romina]

I think I'm over it.

[Rachel]

You sure?

[Rosalind]

Say what you wanted to say.

[Hillary]

No, it's okay.

[Allie Jackson]

No.

[Maria]

Romina was going to say things that tied into going back to that party because she feels that there's never been resolution. Here's the thing. I don't like to go back and bring stuff up, but it's hard when, you know, somebody says that none of that reality existed when it did. Yeah. Okay, so this is the. I've realized that with some friendships, you just. You have to see people for who they are and their capacity, and that's not a bad thing.

[Rachel]

And to also understand that each person has their own truth and come there from their own personal experience. You never know why somebody is maybe colder than you or more emotional than you or gets angry by certain things. You just have to remember that sometimes you're assuming they're being a terrible person. But it might be because that's your experience.

[Romina]

But this isn't an assumption I understand. What I'm upset about is more of what is true and what actually happened. And this wasn't aired. But one of the biggest arguments that happened between me and Taja, and which was one of the main parts of the pilot episode, was that I felt like Taja was being kind of untruthful by creating a clothing brand out of nowhere and then stating that she's been a fashion designer for 20 years. And to me, I took it personally because I took a lot of time and I've spent a lot of money and I spent a lot of hard work into producing a clothing brand. And that's what I wanted to showcase on this show. And here you are coming in saying, well, I'm a designer, too, buying clothes from Amazon and putting your name on it. And we have the proof. And so I felt very, very kind of, like, upset about that because I'm like, wait a minute, you're gonna come in and take all this, you know,

[Rachel]

what word am I looking for?

[Romina]

Credit. Thank you. All this credit for something that I put in so much time, effort, and money into. And so I felt very upset about that. And then when I tried to speak to you about it, it became this, you know, huge argument where you stormed out. I don't even remember what you said. I was hoping they were going to air it so I could see. And when I spilled the drink in Hillary, we were in Hillary's closet to begin with, because I was talking about this. And it was so freaking crazy that

[Maria]

out of all the things in Hillary's

[Romina]

closet, I spilled ontages jacket. That's why I was so afraid when she told me that it was Tasha's red fur jacket. Yeah. My freaking. My heart, like, fell to my stomach. I was like, are you fucking kidding me?

[Hillary]

Out of all that was on the show.

[Maria]

That part.

[Romina]

But they didn't explain why it was such a big deal. And that was because we just got into this big argument, and I just feel like, listen, I would not care if you were, like, a fashion designer, too. I think that's amazing. But, like, that night, now, you also came out with the song. I'm like, okay, so first, you're a fashion designer.

[Taja]

I only did that when I heard your name. Never before.

[Hillary]

Come on.

[Romina]

Well, that's what it's all. Because there's a scope of it from before.

[Taja]

Let's get that out.

[Romina]

It seems like you have to create a storyline which they didn't end up using.

[Allie Jackson]

Xiway.

[Gail]

Okay?

[Taja]

So end of story.

[Maria]

You inspire. It's flattering.

[Rachel]

Okay, so.

[Romina]

But I'm still, like, hurt about that. And I just wanted you to understand why I was hurt. Not because I felt, you know, like, I just felt like it was something where you wanted to take the credit for something that I was doing. And maybe I'm completely wrong, but we never. But we never talked about this.

[Taja]

You're completely wrong.

[Maria]

This is like.

[Rachel]

Do you want to just say why a little more? You had this before.

[Taja]

No, I do not. I do not.

[Rachel]

Okay.

[Taja]

I don't want to discuss this because it's an insane accusation that ever since I heard her name, I became interested in music and fashion.

[Romina]

That is that me and Rosalyn are wearing her designs at her wedding, which they didn't include in the show, which I'm glad about, because those also were just Amazon dresses.

[Taja]

And no, they were white label. Yes, they were white. If you knew anything about business, you would know what that meant.

[Maria]

Well, they are white label, but they are also. She found the money.

[Romina]

Yeah, exactly.

[Maria]

I know what that means.

[Rachel]

Speaking of which, let's change the subject here. Hillary, you renewed your vows on the yacht. On a yacht. During the show, I must say, because we all know you're on husband five. So can you give us some tips or what you've learned having this many husbands on why this one's gonna last and your thoughts on marriage and how people should find lasting love.

[Maria]

That's exactly what my book is gonna be about.

[Rachel]

Oh, is it?

[Hillary]

So you're really hitting right on the neck. I'll give a little preview, please, here on this podcast. Well, husband number five, as you all have met, is a great guy.

[Romina]

We like him.

[Rosalind]

Reproof.

[Hillary]

Thank you. He is always smiling. He's always happy, Wakes up happy. And I think, for me, what makes it work is what made my relationship with Cooper's dad work for so long was he's amused by me. Because to know me, you really have to be amused by me. Otherwise, you know, you might. You know, we're not going to get very far, because I'm. I'm. I am who I am. And, you know, sometimes I'm all over the place. You know, I, too, have adult adhd. I'm doing a million things at once. I'm running. I am working 18 hours a day. And you have to be amused. You have to think that's cute because, you know, I'm not your typical wife. I'm not making dinner. I'm not catering. So the relationship works for us. Because he thinks I'm cute. You know, I mean, you know, that's it.

[Maria]

I love that.

[Hillary]

And the other. And so did Pete Mutzer. Right. And maybe that was because he was so much older.

[Romina]

Right.

[Hillary]

So that sort of makes sense. He found everything I did adorable. He was mesmerized by my work ethic. He didn't mind sitting in a car with me for hours, with me still making business calls on the way to the Poconos. Yeah. Instead of getting mad at me, which maybe a guy my own age would have been like, pay attention to me. Sure. Get off the phone. He was like, way to go, girl. You know, he lets you be you. Right. So that. That's why those two relationships are my two best and my two faves and my two true loves. In between, I think I had a rebound relationship with a really hot guy. And that was.

[Romina]

Let's see, pictures of these guys.

[Hillary]

He was really hot. And, you know, it was just that I think a girlfriend of mine said, if you don't want him, I have 20 other girls who do. And I was like, no, I guess I'll take.

[Maria]

Take him.

[Hillary]

And, you know, I didn't like dating, and it was too quick of a decision.

[Rachel]

But he was a great dad to

[Hillary]

my son, and he. You know, he had a wonderful daughter who happened to have been blind. So There was a lot of family empathy for my family, you know, for her. And that was a very loving between the two kids. So that worked for a while, until it didn't. You know, intellectually we were not a good fit, if I could say it that way. And then the next husband was the opposite. Super smart banker, very conservative, good looking, handsome. Very handsome, actually. I saw him at Starbucks and I knew immediately that he was supposed to be my husband and that he was a banker from Chicago. That's a little bit of the white witch in me. And it turned out to be true.

[Gail]

Wow.

[Hillary]

He was at truest BB&T@ the time. He was up on that Worth Avenue thing. He was at Starbucks. And when he walked down the villa, I was like, oh, my God, the guy I'm supposed to marry just left. And I thought about it all week and then all of a sudden he was walking by me on the street. And I said to my sister, I've got to hang up the phone because my next husband just walked right by me. And I literally chased him down the street and said hi back because he said hi to me. It was a very cute moment that ended up lasting in a nine year relationship where at the end of it, I just sort of said, don't you think we ought to call it quits?

[Maria]

We're like roommates, right?

[Hillary]

There was no drama, there was no cheating.

[Taja]

Was that the number three?

[Hillary]

Four.

[Gail]

Oh, okay.

[Hillary]

One was pre Pete and didn't count because I would have been annulled if I was Catholic.

[Rachel]

So do we think this one is going to last? Is your goal to make it last forever?

[Romina]

I think you remember them all so well.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Hillary]

The goal is, yes, I am definitely not looking or thinking or ever going to have a husband. Number six, I'm sure. Not sure.

[Rachel]

All right, I have some fan questions. People wrote in and asked you guys specific questions. We're going to go through these quick, so quick answers.

[Allie Jackson]

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[Rachel]

Rosalynn, how has been a parent of five children shaped who you are and how you stay so positive?

[Rosalind]

Being a mom and having five children was obviously the most important thing in my life. I was a full time mother. I devoted my time to them. I enjoyed it so much. My goal was to make amazing adults and all five of them are high achieving, amazing adults who support themselves. I'm very proud of them. We had a lot of fun along the way. My husband and I built everything that we have together and it's been very fulfilling. And I really did fulfill my dreams by moving here. And I'm very proud of the life that we've built. And I have four grandchildren.

[Rachel]

Wow.

[Gail]

I love that.

[Rachel]

A follow up question to that is, what is your secret to stay so happy and positive of?

[Rosalind]

Because I love my life and I have a wonderful life. I mean, I have an amazing husband, extremely happy, and I'm grateful. I think it's very important to be grateful because there's always going to be people who are wealthier, who are prettier, who are very accomplished, who have what seems like everything. But we have to be grateful for what we do have and count our own blessings. And we have to really realize that it's not a competition, that everyone is for themselves. And gratitude makes you realize, you know, I do, I have it all.

[Rachel]

I love that answer. Okay, Romina, who was the most fashionable on the show and why?

[Maria]

You can say yourself.

[Rosalind]

We all knew. We all knew. What do you say?

[Romina]

I think everyone actually, like, had really fabulous outfits and I, I like that everyone dressed to their own, like, personal, you know, style. I think everyone should have the space to do that and we shouldn't judge each other's outfits.

[Maria]

Okay.

[Rachel]

Taja, you have a big brand. Was doing the show worth it? And has it affected your personal brand or your professional brand? Either way, good or bad?

[Taja]

No, it definitely helped. I've got More followers and more sales and didn't hurt it, so.

[Rachel]

So it's a good decision.

[Taja]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

Maria, did anybody surprise you when you watched it back when the cameras or when the cameras were rolling, about how a cast member changed either a good way or a bad way?

[Maria]

I would say that I understood Roslyn a lot better. I think Rosalind and Hillary both, I think when we were never really, like, close, close, close, we were always friendly. Over the years, we became better friends in the past, like, year and a half, two years. But then after watching the show back, because they always say that you don't know somebody until you walked a mile in their shoes or their story. So I understood Rosalind from a completely different perspective. So I had a lot more appreciation, because sometimes we get stuck in our own stories. But then I understood why she is the way she is sometimes, and I have more empathy towards that because I understand her better. So I understand, like, her love language. So even though sometimes I feel like she's being a certain way, I have a better understanding. And then with Hillary, too, believe it or not, I found that, you know, quite surprisingly, we had a lot more in common. Like, and people would not think that they would be like, DJ Tumble is the most crass one. And then, you know, Hillary, like, she's too uptight because, you know, and I tell people when they write us, they're like, how about that, Hillary? I'm like, how about that, Hillary? I'm like, you don't know. Like, she's cool. The funny thing is, is that, like, the people only saw certain sides of us on the show. So it's funny because I feel like we are all very multifaceted, and hopefully with the season two, you guys will get to see a lot more, like, of that, because we're funny together. Like, a lot of times, like, there's more depth to us. There's, like, just a lot more, Right? Yeah.

[Rachel]

Hillary, what is. So we all saw your closets and your home, right? So what is the number one thing in your Life that having $1 million in your bank account has not been able to fix or protect you from? Not assuming you only have $1 million in your bank account. But, you know, you understand the question, right? To fix, like, what is money without money? Like, you know, what does money not fix or help but in your life? You know what I mean?

[Hillary]

Yeah. Well, happiness is the answer, right? I mean, money definitely does not buy you happiness. And I've definitely been where I am now, which is somewhere in the middle, and I've been up here and I've been down here. And I would just say in the people that have known me for 40 years, 30 years, I'm aging myself. But will tell you, I've never changed. Right. My attitude towards life. Smile. My level of happiness has never changed. I don't actually know what it's like to feel depressed because I don't allow myself to go there. I'm always. My sister says to me, I don't know how you're like that.

[Maria]

That Jack in the box we had

[Gail]

when we grew up where that clown

[Hillary]

that you punched him and bounces up

[Maria]

like on a spring.

[Hillary]

Remember that?

[Gail]

Yeah.

[Hillary]

Do you guys have one of those? And she goes, how do you do it? And I said, I don't know. It's just who I am. It's built. It's in my DNA. I don't try to do it. So I think it's just happiness. Like Rosalind, so succinctly and well said. You know, her life has brought her a lot of happiness. My life, very different. One child, you know, although he took up a lot of time, you know, I also filled my life with other things that were important to me to feel accomplished and that was important to me. And so that makes me happy and Cooper makes me happy. And the men in my life have some of the time made me happy, but they can't make you happy either. That's the thing about men is we can't look at them and count on them to make us happy.

[Gail]

Right.

[Hillary]

That's true.

[Rachel]

You have to find happiness in your purpose and your fluff. Right? Yes. Okay, so two more things to do. I'd like to go around each person very briefly and we can actually grab the baton. Rousely.

[Gail]

Grab the baton.

[Hillary]

Wow.

[Maria]

We've upgraded.

[Romina]

Just don't put it in your mouth.

[Maria]

It had a glow up.

[Taja]

I don't think that's going to fit.

[Rachel]

Okay, if we could go around briefly and do two things I'd like you to say, like give us a little bit if season two happens, what do you think your storyline is? Where do you want to be or, you know, what's happening for you in the future that you want to kind of announce here or talk about that makes you interesting for season two that you're excited about. And the second thing I want you to do is hold the baton and say one nice thing about one cast member to their face.

[Maria]

Okay.

[Rosalind]

Thank you. I'm really excited if we get season two for lots of fun and surprises and amazing things that we're going to do. And I think that we can all start off on a very positive thought and everyone can enjoy watching the drama, the ups and downs. I think that there's a lot of women in Palm beach and in Palm beach county who want to be on the show, and I think that they would make it extremely interesting and spice it up. And I'm excited about that. I also did start my own supplement that I worked on. It'll be two years in May, so I'm very excited about that. And I just have a lot. So finally, you know, I fulfilled all my dreams with my love and my family. But this is, like, my time. The show was something that I did, as everyone knows. Like, my husband wasn't on the show. He didn't want to be on the show, but he was very supportive of me doing it. He said, I never want to tell you not to do something. So he's like, you know, you go ahead and do it. So now, I wanted to pursue this because I did teach dance fitness for many, many years. And I was always into health and beauty and it's important to me. But. And I'm very proud of all of the things that I could do. The dance. I could sing, not as beautifully, but I could do it. I did Padgett. Well, no, when I was in pageant as a teenager, that was my talent. But, you know, it's just fun. Like, you don't use it, you lose it, which I've lost it for sure.

[Hillary]

Got it.

[Rosalind]

But, you know, I like being in front of the camera. I love doing the reality, and it's just loads and loads of fun. So I'll say something to Maria. Maria, I did not really care for you at first, and you know that because I've told you this before. But as I've gotten to know you and we've been completely open and honest with each other and what we have said about each other, we've discussed this. I have grown to really love you. And I think that we actually do have a lot more in common than people would ever think or see. I don't take back or regret anything that I said because what I said has brought me to where we are today. And I do think that you're a lovely person and a wonderful friend. And you have a heart of gold. And I love Damon, too.

[Maria]

Oh, I love you.

[Rosalind]

That's very nice.

[Maria]

Did you write that before you came?

[Rosalind]

No, I just thought.

[Maria]

I love that. You're so sweet. Why are you so. This is a bad follow up. That was so good. I Love you.

[Rosalind]

And since, you know, in the beginning, we did not care for each other, and there were a lot of things that, you know, it's not right.

[Maria]

Yeah.

[Rosalind]

But I, you know, look down upon certain things.

[Maria]

Thank you.

[Rosalind]

And, you know, I also feel that I've grown from this, and I don't want to do that or be like that.

[Maria]

Thank you.

[Hillary]

I.

[Gail]

Thank you.

[Maria]

I. I feel that Romina was a big, like, proponent in helping foster that, because my eyes were, like, I was closed off to it, and I was like, roslyn is so frustrating. But Romina kept appealing to me, opening up, and. Thank you.

[Romina]

Because.

[Maria]

Yes. Like, you know what I mean?

[Gail]

So thank you.

[Maria]

That was.

[Gail]

Yeah.

[Maria]

Your turn. Honestly, you know, getting into, like, a season two or moving forward, you know, the show's been great. We've gotten great reception. I love that people are just loving us. Like, it's amazing. And that's actually helped my DJ career. People are wanting us to come out to their. Like, they want me to go play in their cities, and it's just. It's crazy.

[Rachel]

Like I said, people are traveling here to see you.

[Maria]

Yes. Like, we had a night that we hosted in Delray beach, and we had people that flew out from South Dakota, like, from Michigan. So it's amazing, like, just to think that people are like, you know, come out to Chicago. Come out. So it's been wonderful because there are opportunities coming out from that. I feel that, you know, moving forward. One thing that I'd love to do is that I landed in Palm beach as DJ tumbles. Like, that was my easy shoe in, because there wasn't a lot of expectations put on me. Like, I was able to come in in a different light where people were a little bit more forgiving. You know, I wasn't scrutinized as much because they were like, oh, you know, she comes into the front door, the back door, she's the entertainment. And then they got to know me, and they're like, okay, she's cute. Like, you know, the DJ table.

[Rosalind]

Yeah.

[Maria]

But that's how I developed a lot of my friendships. I feel that for me, because I'm very. I'm. I have a competitive nature where I always want to try to strive for the most. I am driven to try to see if, without tumbles, Maria can somehow find her place in Palm Beach. I feel that, like, everybody deserves to have a place and a space at every table. And regardless of how Palm beach has, you know, like, stigmas and how they've been traditionally, I feel that there is room for the, you know, old Palm beach and for a new Palm beach and a much more progressive vibe. And I am not going to honestly, like, I won't give up until I feel like there's been a shift and we're throwing it, you know, the. The events and stuff like that. And they're accepting of, you know, somebody like me at the table. Somebody like Robina at the table.

[Romina]

Right.

[Maria]

You know, amazing. So. Yeah.

[Gail]

Okay.

[Maria]

So I have to say just one person.

[Gail]

Gosh.

[Romina]

Yep.

[Rachel]

Just one.

[Maria]

Okay. What I'd like to say is I'm actually going to exactly what I just said. So I want to thank Romina because I never thought that little younger you, because I always think, oh, I'm the parent one, that you would be a lesson for me. And the one thing I'm most grateful for is that you were a constant for me and you always have been. And I am grateful for that because someone like me needs consistency in my friendship. So I value that. Thank you for opening my eyes because I never would have had the opportunity to get close to Rosalind. We were very misunderstood. So I am grateful that you taught me something. So thank you very much because it helped me actually, in many of my friendships. So, yes, thank you very much.

[Taja]

Thank you.

[Rachel]

That's amazing.

[Hillary]

Hilary, what I want to get out of the season two.

[Rachel]

Yeah. Like, what would your storyline be? What are you doing in the future?

[Hillary]

Well, I think clearly my storyline will be at the beginning of season two. The sale of the house.

[Gail]

Yes.

[Hillary]

That has been a four year journey for me. It is the by far the most elegant, beautiful, elevated, and expensive house, making it, you know, a, you know, a big, you know, deal to sell.

[Rachel]

And Sorry, I want to interrupt you and say, because I think we've all been there.

[Rosalind]

Right.

[Hillary]

Has everybody been there to the finished product? I don't think so.

[Rachel]

So I've been there and I want to say that it really was the first time I got to see your work because on the show, you know, you see how fancy your own home is. You see a little bit. But this, it's more than a spec house. It's a really beautifully done, custom made home that you are showing me the details that I don't even think about when I look at a home. It was really well done and it really made me understand what you do and how hard you work on that. And I want to commend you for that.

[Rosalind]

Thank you.

[Rachel]

I want to say it.

[Hillary]

Thank you. Yeah. Rachel did come to. To my brokers open and, you know, it's. Yes, I'm really proud. So I'd love to show the four of you the house. We can make a time. We can have our own little private jazz. Marty talks in the house. And, you know, I just like to say it's not that I don't want to film, it's that my pages are really business oriented right now. And I'm trying to keep it that way because I'm really focused. You'll see a lot of videos on the house. The cool thing about being on the show, for me, in addition, obviously, the fan base is fun and the pictures that people are asking us all to take is really flattering. Right? You know, you're sitting at a restaurant. I was in the Bahamas in a casino. And, you know, the people come over and they're like, would you mind?

[Gail]

And it's.

[Hillary]

It's so flattering. And of course, you know, at some point, I'm sure maybe a few years down the road, it becomes, you know, something different. But right now it's kind of exciting. And I had my first fan photo the first night after the premiere, and my son was with me, so he was like, mom, it's your first fan photo. So it's been fun. And I've had a lot of collaborations, which has been great. You know, I'm collabing with this to 11 nil. Like, tennis dressing. You know, I'm so into tennis. Tennis and their corset. Like, it's so exciting. But I'm really focused on the house, and that's my story. So it's. It's where. I don't know where I'm going to be at with the house when we start filming, but certainly they want to make sure they get that, you know, in before it sells. So I'm like, praying to sell it and praying not to sell it because I really. I really want the cameras there. And I know that our EP does too. So that's my main focus. And then interestingly enough, and something I never talk about is my brokerage business, which I have had a banner year of four to five times my gross sales of any year I've ever had. And now I have four to five more employees, all women. People that have come to me that have wanted to work for the firm since the show, been inspired by what I'm doing, and I never really wanted that many people working for me, but now I'm really enjoying the mentoring. I've done some speaking at universities, and I have had a lot of offers for interns. So I've taken on One. So those are all super positive things that you know. So when people say, wow, you really put yourself out there for the show and was that really good for you? I want to spill all that out. I want to say to that group of people, yes, you have no idea what a positive thing this has been for my business, for my self esteem, for all of it. And I'm really excited about that. So it's really working. And I think that the story will be the growth of the brokerage business, will be the sale the house and what comes after. I'm sure there'll be a lot of phone calls and a lot of work that comes from whoever buys the house. You know, I'll still be down there a lot. That is always interesting and. And on and on. So I'm excited about that. And then there'll be the questions. Do you want to search for another property? So maybe we'll go looking. I'm not really sure. Great. I think tbd. I'll stop talking.

[Maria]

I heard the gray.

[Hillary]

I heard that I'm either going to cut half of this and I. I got it.

[Rachel]

Would you like to give a message?

[Hillary]

You haven't said that much today.

[Maria]

I know you had it all done.

[Hillary]

I've been pretty quiet. I've been pretty quiet. Taja's been exceptionally quiet.

[Rachel]

I would just like to say, but

[Hillary]

to Taja, the woman who really had my back for the whole show. And I know that most of you basically hated me throughout the show and I appreciate that you not hate me.

[Maria]

I never hated not.

[Hillary]

Well, you may have called me a bit wrong word, but you know, it's okay. And maybe I came off that way and maybe I sometimes actually was. And maybe I sometimes actually wasn't and I was misunderstood. But to Taja for really having my back. And I know there's been a lot of tension with the group and I've really tried to have Taja's back because for me, I'm a very loyal person and I'm standing behind Taja in the sense that I don't really think that. I think she's being misunderstood in all this. And I'd like you all to give her a chance.

[Rachel]

So that's my. Thank you, Hillary.

[Romina]

Romina, are we using this as like a microphone?

[Rachel]

Yes, you are.

[Rosalind]

I think just when we turn to the person.

[Rachel]

Yeah, just when we.

[Maria]

She was holding the whole time.

[Romina]

I'll make it short term. I think in my, you know, storyline for season two, I will always. Music and fashion will always be a part of what I'M doing, but I think, you know, navigating the friendships that we've created here is obviously going to be a big part of it, and we still have a lot of work to do, and there's, you know, a lot of love that I have for all of you, and I'm really happy to be here, even if it's hard. Any job someone takes on, it's hard. Reality TV is as much of a job as any other job. It's just we get to be super vulnerable and showing our personal lives, so it's a little bit different. And that's why you get to see us in, you know, sometimes the saddest or most difficult times in our life.

[Hillary]

Sure.

[Romina]

So I'm. I've always been an open book. So for me, it's not that hard, and I enjoy what I do, and I honestly have love and appreciation for every single one of you ladies. But I want to thank Rosalynn because she's the reason that I'm on the show. She's the one that referred me, and I'll always be super grateful to her because even though this group has not always been an easy group to be a part of, it's still being a part of a group, and I love that. And I feel like not every woman out there can say that she has, like, a strong girl group bond, you know, that we can have these serious conflicts and still find the resolution after. So I'm very grateful for that.

[Maria]

Oh, my God.

[Hillary]

I was holding that like it was a mic.

[Romina]

I know

[Maria]

you're.

[Romina]

You're like this.

[Maria]

Not for nothing. Not a microphone.

[Rosalind]

Like a mic. Tasha.

[Maria]

She goes. I was holding it like a mic. I mean, I don't know how you hold a mic.

[Rachel]

I totally.

[Taja]

Okay, so I want to say that I'm happy to see you guys in, like, you know, love energy instead of, like, you know, I hate her. I hate her, you know, bad energy. Okay? So I'm glad that whatever you guys had got resolved and that you facilitated that. I think that that's great. And even that, you know, the four of you right now have no animosity because that's not how we started, and that's not how that's not how we ended, you know? So I am. I'd much rather see this than, you know, have to have phone calls with every.

[Allie Jackson]

I hate her.

[Gail]

I can't.

[Taja]

Whatever. That is not what I want, okay? I want us all to empower each other. I'm more about collaborating than competing. I would like to see more of that on Season two. And I love it that we all have a lot of things that, you know, not just in common, but passions that we're pursuing. You know, like, we can all do more than one thing. It doesn't mean that if you just do real estate, you have to stick to that. You do. We can all do multiple things because I always have done multiple things. I've had whatever, restaurants, nightclubs, real estate, like, you know, And I want to also say that if sometimes I seem like I'm a lone wolf, I grew up an only child, and maybe that has something to do with it. I don't know. So maybe that's why I, like, get into my own lane when I, you know, feel like. I don't know, like. Like I'm not understood, misunderstood again. So that's your way of protecting yourself. I guess so. Because, you know, I really grew up, like, I spent a lot of time alone right now in my whole life. I still do, you know, So I. I am an only child. I was an only child. I do have a brother, but he was born when I was, you know, 18. 17. So, yes. From my mother's second marriage, you know, so. But my whole childhood, I grew up alone. So that probably has something to do with why I maybe go off into my own lane.

[Gail]

Right.

[Taja]

And I would like to be more connected. That's something that I probably need to work on. So you're right about that. So here, I want to pass the baton.

[Maria]

Oh, no, it's heavy. Hold on.

[Taja]

I'm not going to say that you're wrong.

[Rachel]

Sorry. Oh, no, I broke it.

[Maria]

I broke the baton.

[Romina]

And now it's a good dress.

[Rachel]

So was that your comment to her?

[Romina]

Was that your.

[Taja]

That what? I broke the baton? No, I wasn't asked the baton. Oh, oh.

[Maria]

Oh, yeah.

[Taja]

She might not be wrong that I can possibly go.

[Maria]

That was kind of funny that it fell in a way that's kind of funny. It's like. It's ominous. It's kind of like we're back to, like, we're going to sweep the wall out.

[Rosalind]

I love that you said that.

[Maria]

Yeah.

[Gail]

Thank you.

[Hillary]

I did.

[Maria]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

I think that was the most vulnerable that a lot of people have seen

[Maria]

you in a while because we've.

[Rachel]

I understand exactly what you're talking about, too, and I think it's very valid. And I. I'm hoping that after this. Sit down. You guys now have had the opportunity to share a little bit about yourselves, you understand a little bit more about the other people, and hopefully you can start on a new foot forward and hopefully you guys will all get a season two. And if you don't, at least, hopefully you will be able to salvage some of these friendships moving forward. Because at our age, at any age over 18, it is very hard to find new women friends and to find people you can trust. So I think you guys are very lucky that you have each other and I wish for you that you continue those friendships regardless of what happens going forward.

[Taja]

Thank you.

[Rachel]

Thank you so much for being on Misunderstood. Thank you for having me. Thank you for trusting me with your stories.

[Hillary]

You were great.

[Maria]

You were great.

[Rachel]

We're done.

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