Podcast Summary: Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

Episode: The Real Witch of Beverly Hills: Carlton Gebbia on Magic, Myths & Halloween

Date: October 31, 2025
Guest: Carlton Gebbia
Host: Rachel Uchitel

Episode Overview

In this Halloween special, Rachel Uchitel sits down with Carlton Gebbia, former Real Housewives of Beverly Hills cast member, British-American actress, designer, and outspoken Wiccan. Known for her gothic style and spiritual beliefs, Carlton uses her first-ever podcast appearance to demystify witchcraft, share personal stories about paganism and Wicca, and respond candidly to housewives drama and public misconceptions. The episode also explores motherhood, personal transformation, energy work, and Carlton’s intriguing future projects.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Carlton’s Entry into Reality TV

• Motivation and Caution:

  • Carlton initially resisted reality TV, viewing it as the "kiss of death" for actors, but ultimately sought a challenging, personal outlet beyond motherhood and designing homes (06:24–07:40).
  • Quote:
    “I felt like I was sort of insulated in this protective bubble of marriage and motherhood, and I kind of felt like I was losing my identity.” – Carlton (06:24)

• Reality of Reality TV:

  • She quickly realized cast members have little control over their narratives, and editing often highlights negative moments, particularly those involving alcohol (08:55–10:38).
  • Blogging about each episode was a highlight, allowing her to offer unedited perspectives (09:04–10:38).

Life Post-Housewives & TV Friendships

• Carlton is no longer in touch with most cast members and doesn’t follow current seasons.
• Her reality TV tastes now lean toward shows like Survivor and adventure challenges, not drama-driven reality (11:04–12:42).

Childhood & Ancestral Spirituality

• Carlton’s grandmother was a practicing pagan and psychic, her mother read tarot, and Carlton was raised in an environment attuned to natural energies and intuition (12:42–14:23).
• She describes early psychic experiences—especially sensing death—and the difficulties that came with it (14:51–16:55).

Notable Quote:

“I would sense if somebody was going to die, which I hated. I had a friend... I pulled away from him, like, weeks beforehand because I couldn't be around that.” – Carlton (15:24)

Witchcraft, Wicca, and Myths Explained

• Definitions & Misconceptions:
  • Wicca is an individualized, nature-based spiritual faith rooted in respect for the earth and elements. Not all Wiccans are witches, and vice versa (21:20–24:14).
  • Carlton differentiates between real spiritual practice and charlatanism, emphasizing positivity and harm avoidance in spellwork (14:51–16:55; 20:04–21:20).
• Practices:
  • Her rituals involve elements like crystals, herbs, candles, and lunar phases, used primarily for personal healing or to help close friends (24:18–26:22).
  • Secrecy around witchcraft is about self-preservation, rooted in historical persecution of women with healing or spiritual power (29:22–31:40).

Notable Quote:

“Anytime a woman displayed any sort of power, it threatened a man who was in power. And I think it was a way of silencing.” – Carlton (30:09)

Practical Magic, Rituals, and Beliefs

• Explains the reality vs. stereotype of spellcasting:
  • Rituals are about manifesting change, harnessing natural energies, and aligning with universal vibrations. Anyone can connect with these energies via intention, meditation, and respect for nature (33:49–39:29).
  • The full moon is a particularly potent time to manifest change or ask for guidance (37:11–38:21).
• Examples for Listeners:
  • Carlton suggests listeners sit outside during a full moon, write and repeat intentions, and ask the moon (or higher power) for guidance (35:58–38:21).

Halloween, Gothic Style, and Family

• Carlton’s love of Halloween ties to her affinity for the macabre and her personal/family birthdays in October (39:29–41:03).
• She maintains a gothic, black-centric style year-round, drawing calmness and comfort from it (41:03–42:10).
• Her children—Destiny, Mystery, and Cross—were encouraged to choose their beliefs, but all display psychic and spiritual tendencies (42:10–47:04).

Memorable Story:

Story of her daughter Destiny writing about unicorns and mermaids for school, asserting “this is real for her” when questioned by a teacher (43:24–44:20).

A Day in the Life, Motherhood, and Divorce

• Carlton describes recent years as focused on healing after a contentious divorce and helping her children settle post-move from LA to Miami (48:00–50:44).
• She is not actively dating, joking her main requirement is “just hot” (50:55).
  • Quote:
    “Just hot.” – Carlton (50:55)

Current Projects: Design & Sustainability

• Working on a boutique hotel concept in Miami, themed around earth, elements, and spiritual harmony, with a focus on sustainability and local artisans (53:15–56:59).
• Developing a hydrogen-based heating innovation as part of her broader interest in renewable energy (61:08–64:28).

Paranormal Reality Show Pitch

• Carlton is developing a paranormal reality series blending celebrity guests, haunted sites, history, and humor—insisting on respect for true spiritual entities (64:35–66:54).

Notable Moment:

“The twist is that we would stay there overnight. That’s where I get excited because I love to tell ghost stories... it blends genuine human fear with humor.” – Carlton (65:15)

Ghosts, Spirits, Afterlife, and Intuition

• She believes in positive and negative spirits, shares stories of haunted Miami apartments, and stresses that energies can attach if not treated carefully (66:54–70:20).
• Carlton describes speaking to her beloved grandfather’s spirit through signs and consciously inviting guidance (70:37–74:33).
• Fears around death only developed after becoming a mother, emphasizing intuition and gut feelings for safety and guidance (74:33–76:42).
• Strong conviction in reincarnation, children choosing parents, and recurring spiritual connections among loved ones (77:13–79:31).

Notable Quote:

“I believe that children choose their parents... I know I've lived many lifetimes.” – Carlton (77:13)

The Kyle Richards Question (Housewives Drama)

• Carlton gives biting, unsparing opinions about former castmate Kyle Richards, calling her “one of the most narcissistic toxic energies I literally had the misfortune meeting” (81:32–85:32).
• She denies knowledge of Kyle’s sexual orientation rumors, suggesting Kyle lives more for storylines than authenticity and describes painful accusations from her time on the show.
  • Quote:
    “She’s so trapped by this whatever she's created for herself… she's a different breed of vile.” – Carlton (81:32)

Memorable Quotes & Timestamp Highlights

• On Real Housewives Experience & Narrative Control:
  • “You walk in thinking you're going to control the narrative… you realize really, really quickly you have no control.” (08:55)
• On Witchcraft & Self-Preservation:
  • “The secrecy was to protect oneself. Persecution.” (31:27)
• On Rituals:
  • “We tap into that energy to affect a needed change.” (33:49)
• On Spiritual Signs:
  • “If you start making yourself aware that you want to see the beauty around you or you want to see signs, you will.” (73:37)
• On the Afterlife:
  • “I believe in reincarnation… I believe that children choose their parents. I believe… we have known each other just not in the same… not always as male and female.” (77:13)
• On Personal Requirements for a Partner:
  • “Just hot.” (50:55)
• On Kyle Richards:
  • “She's a different breed of vile... one of the most narcissistic toxic energies.” (81:32)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Introduction to Carlton & Halloween plans: 04:29–05:34
• Becoming a ‘Housewife’ & reality TV views: 06:00–11:10
• Childhood, ancestry, and psychic gifts: 12:42–16:55
• Wicca and witchcraft, myth-busting: 21:20–26:22
• Spells, curses, ritual reality: 27:10–33:10
• Practical advice for manifesting change: 35:58–39:29
• Family, kids’ beliefs, and nurturing gifts: 42:10–47:04
• Daily life, motherhood, divorce: 48:00–50:44
• New projects: design & green energy: 53:15–64:28
• Paranormal show pitch: 64:35–66:54
• Ghosts, spirits, and death: 66:54–79:31
• Opinions on Kyle Richards/Housewives: 79:56–88:11

Tone and Style

This episode was candid, witty, and sharply insightful. Carlton blended a mischievous, self-aware humor with raw honesty about sensitive topics. Rachel guided the conversation with curiosity and respect, giving Carlton plenty of space to clarify deep misconceptions and share personal wisdom.

For Listeners: How to Connect

• Carlton on Instagram: @carlton1311
• She reads DMs periodically and is open to sharing resources about Wicca and spiritual practices.
• Not recruiting, but happy to recommend books for the curious (91:14).

Final Reflection

Carlton Gebbia’s first podcast appearance was a fascinating, myth-busting journey through the realities of modern witchcraft, spiritual intuition, and personal evolution far beyond reality TV. Fiercely authentic and entertainingly direct, Carlton invites listeners to look past stereotypes—to the power, depth, and humor that lie beneath the headline.