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MOATS with George Galloway
MASSIVE ATTACK | Day 148 | Or not? Trump verbals | Houthis target ships | Burnham election nix
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George Galloway
And it's live, despite the time differences. Welcome to the mother of all talk shows. Massive attack. This episode is called this evening and heaven knows we have many massive attacks to choose from. The massive attack on the gay pride parade in Berlin launched by a crazed ISIS extremist, fanatic mass murderer, only killed one, but maimed dozens of people and tried to kill dozens of people. Unfortunately, he's been shot dead by police in Berlin because for one, I would have wanted to know exactly who he was working for. The massive attacks, including the threat of nuclear attack being mounted and threatened by Donald Trump all through the week, have mysteriously stopped. For the last two nights there has been no massive attack on Iran. Is it because they've run out of missiles, run out of road, or is some kind of initiative underway? Massive attacks on freedom and liberty. Massive attacks on Russian civilians playing in holiday resort and cruelly cut down mass murdered by the Ukrainian force that is still supported hook, line and sinker by Europe and the United States of America. Massive attacks on liberty and freedom and in the metropolitan countries. It's all coming up tonight. It's the mother of all talk shows. Stay tuned.
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George Galloway
You are listening to the mother of all talk shows podcast with George Galloway. Well, if I could choose and play a piece of music to open the show tonight, it would be Start me up. If you start me up, I'll never stop. It's my anthem, but it's also one of the masterpieces of Mick Jagger, born in Dartford 83 years ago today. Happy birthday, Mick. You're an inspiration to all of us who are getting on a bit in years. Still moving like, well, moving like Jagger. But so many dark stories to talk to you about. How to fit them all into a 20 minute monologue starting with what happened in Berlin. Now, a lot of people don't like gay pride parades. I'm not a big fan of them myself, but gay pride parades are A perfectly legal piece of the social architecture of Western countries. And the people who attend them are entitled to the protection of the state, the same protection as any other member of the state. The fact that that is not true in Germany is of course lamentable, but does not excuse For 1 second, 1 millisecond, the attempted mass murder and the actual murder of one reveller and the maiming, mutilating, wounding of dozens of others, some of whom may well yet die, and all of whom were intended to die. I feared the worst when I heard that the assassin, the murderer, was called Abdul. And then I learned he was a 21 year old Lebanese German born in Germany in 2005. So don't go crying, deport him. He's never been anywhere else other than Germany. But he had fallen under the influence of the ISIS Al Qaeda phenomenon, which has blighted much of the 21st century and is an entirely homegrown creation. Don't be telling me now that this somehow arose in the prison camps of the United States in Iraq, or with Al Zarqawi in the deserts of eastern Jordan. Don't be telling me now that this all arose organically. That idea died when ISIS toured in their Toyota pickup trucks, hundreds and hundreds of them, and conquered the second city of Iraq under their then leader, Al Baghdadi. His deputy leader, Al Jalani Al Shara is now the Western imposed president of Syria. Don't take my word for that, Donald Trump tells you almost every day. And the Western media that were filled with the horrors of Al Qaeda when they were cutting throats and cutting heads and eating hearts in the long civil war in Syria, buttressed by a mass invasion of the kind of people as this Abdo, that kind of foreign extremist was facilitated in their invasion of Syria and armed and funded to the teeth by Western governments, including my own government, including the German government. Most pertinently in this story, I wanted to know who Abdul was really working for. But I'll never know now because he's been shot dead, I can reveal by the Berlin police now, I don't know the circumstances. Maybe they had no alternative but to shoot him dead. But it's a pity because we have to expose the rottenness at the heart of Western governments who support terrorism where it suits them and who cluck, cluck and are horrified by it where it doesn't. I am a simple guy, you know that about me. I hate and oppose all terrorism. Whomsoever is carrying out, whomsoever is the victim of it. And the attack in Germany is Of course, one of a series of such heinous acts of mass murder and mutilation in Germany, in Belgium, in France, and of course, in the United Kingdom itself. But that has not been any cause for introspection on the part of Western governments who remain completely ready to support a Kiev coup regime which is openly carrying out terrorist attacks, just like Abdul. What's the difference between Abdul driving a car into a gay pride parade in Berlin and the shelling, deliberate targeted shelling, of holidaymakers on a beach in the Ukraine by the Ukrainian forces? What's the difference between burning people alive in the trade union house in Odessa, as Western governments still refuse to tell you about, and the actions of this now deceased Abdul B in Berlin? You feel me? You get my drift here? These sick hypocrites who put guns and sharp swords in the hands of small children and then who cry about the result if those who are the victims are our people, cheer the result and send more money and weapons if the victims are the people that they regard as having no worth, what but terrorism was hitting Minab Primary School with two Tomahawk missiles not even acknowledged, let alone apologize for? What's the difference between Pete Hegseth and Abdul B. There is no material difference at all, certainly not to the children whose flesh was found sticking to the wreckage of the Tomahawk missiles concerned. What's the difference between Abdul B and Donald Trump? Trump who boasts of war crimes committed and in the offing? What's the difference between Abdul B and the Fox News commentators who amused themselves and their bovine audience in the week discussing which war crime they should carry out next? Should it be bridges? Should it be electricity supply, should it be water supply? Should it be desalination? Openly discussing things that were adjudged by the tribunal at Nuremberg in 1945 to have been war crimes for which some but not enough of the perpetrators were hanged by the neck until dead. But why has Trump stopped in Iran over the last two nights? I'm presuming that this will be the third night where no attack is mounted. Some say. Some very highly placed sources say that this is because the United States is running out of missiles and running out critically of interceptor missiles to deal with the Iranian retaliation which has rained down on the satrapies on the Arab side of the Gulf who gave willingly open their legs and lay there while the United States occupied them, occupied their territory in order to murder schoolgirls in Minab, murder volleyball players, murder doctors, teachers, emergency workers. These regimes lay there and thought of Mammon. Well, they're not thinking of mammon now because precious little is left of their means of defending themselves. And that that was there in the first place has been taken from them and given to Netanyahu, who arrives for the sixth time in Washington D.C. tomorrow, where he will sadly not be arrested, but rather fated feted in the Oval Office glittering with gold. My God, if they put any more gold leaf in there, they'll have to plaster it over Donald Trump's coupon and his increasingly elephantine suits. The fetting of Benjamin Netanyahu doesn't just amount to 21 gun salutes, doesn't just amount to standing ovations in the United States Congress. It works in mysterious ways. Like Karim Khan, King's council. Do you know what that means, those of you outside of the United Kingdom? It means the King himself appointed this man as one of his counselors, a King's counsellor, Karim Khan, who rose as a British of Asian heritage lawyer to be the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court. Blair's great achievement. I opposed it at the time because I knew exactly what it would become and I oppose it still. But as long as the liberals small l in Europe and North America extol its virtues. What about the case of Karim Khan, kc like Julian Assange before him, framed on fake sex charges which were adjudged by three judges sitting as a three judge tribunal, listening to all of the evidence and deciding unanimously that these charges didn't amount to a row of beans. So they convened the political kangaroo court and have now dismissed Karim Khan. I don't know the man. He might be a sack of shit for all I know, but that's not why he's been removed. He's been removed for one reason only. He's the man that signed the arrest warrant for the war criminal genocider Benjamin Netanyahu. And Israel is boasting this evening about what they called the central role that they played in destroying the life of Karim Khan. One minute he was a king's council, now his life is destroyed. Israel is boasting about its role and boasting that Marco Rubio has promised them that the International Criminal Court itself will be destroyed or dismantled. To use Rubio's own words, Donald Trump may have run out of missiles, but he may have run out of guts. He may have run out of guts to invade Iran as he keeps farting into the microphone that he's going to do on a daily basis, destroy their civilization completely knock them back to the stone Age. They were never in the stone Age. You Buffoon, you palooka. Iran was a vibrant, sophisticated civilization 5,600 years ago. You are boasting of your 250 years of Western civilization, which turned out to mean, quite predictably, really, the extermination of the native population and the enslavement of millions of Africans that you put to work as beasts of burden, having lost many of them in the Middle Passage when the slavers seized them from Africa and sailed them to you. You want to talk about civilization, Donald Trump? Do you think we haven't seen the Epstein files? You think we haven't been following your life of sin, degeneracy, depravity? You think we don't know what you're doing and what you have done? You calling the Iranians all kinds of names. History will record it not just with horror, but with ribaldry. Not the kind of ribaldry with which you answered the White House correspondence attacks on you just the other night in D.C. all your enemies were there. All the people that hate you were there. They were glorying in giving awards to each other for the job they've done against you. Much of it deserved, some of it fictitious, fallacious Russiagate and all the rest of it. I never saw a man die more slowly than the man I saw in the crumpled suit of Donald J. Trump dying on that stage just the other night. And when you came to answer them, instead of satire, it was not Jonathan Swift, it wasn't even Benny Hill. It was as moronic knuckle dragon in the pits as I have ever seen you. I'm going to predict that you're not long for this world. I don't wish you death, but I wish you an early retirement before you take the rest of us over the precipice into the Third World War, which will be the last world world War, which brings me to the Ukraine. There's been a rapprochement, according to Zelensky, between Trump, his administration, and the people who once were said to have no cards, the people who once were said to be dictators to have no electoral mandate, the people of whom it was said would receive no more American war materiel and the means to deploy it. The Americans are back in the Ukraine war. These missiles that murdered all those holidaymakers on the beach, they were American missiles. They were NATO missiles. They were fired by NATO personnel, either in the form of mercenaries or on secondment for training purposes. The Russians have tired of all this. I keep telling people, but nobody in the west even reports, let alone listens. I keep telling you the Russians are tired of all this. They're going now for broke. The spirit of Anchorage has sunk in the Bering Straits. The Russians are going to finish this war at pace and that's exactly what they are doing right now. This evening, as a huge tanker sinks off the coast of Odessa as ballistic missiles by the score lay waste the military political infrastructure in Kiev that most Russians can't understand why that was still standing after all these years. The days of Western politicians making day trips to Kiev are over, if those politicians have any sense at all. And as Putin said today, the day will surely come, and come faster than many now realize, when not just the eastern lands will return to mother Russia, but the western lands will return to mother Poland, mother Hungary and mother Romania. There's many, many points that I haven't had time to deal with. But I happen to have maybe the world's best guest, certainly the best informed one. It's the hip hop artist Low Key right after this. Stay tuned. You are listening to the mother of all talk show podcast with George Galloway. Well, we seem to have a record poll on our hands. Which is the greatest threat to the world, China, Russia or the United States of America? Already a staggering 42,413 people have voted and I'm only now just reading it out. You can vote on my telegram channel T me George Galloway, on my x, on the YouTube community poll, on the YouTube stream and on patreon.com georgedalloway Remember, if you're watching on the YouTube stream, subscribe please to my channel. If you want to call the show. It's toll free in the United states and Canada. Plus 1-855-50-50-50moats m o a T S or 855-50-66287. It's free of charge in Britain and Ireland. 0800-29 double four, double one and the worldwide number 00442-0396-2625. Loki, the renowned hip hop artist and host of the Watchdog podcast is my favorite guest. I learn more from him in the course of an interview than I've read, certainly in the mainstream all week. And I think you feel that way too. That's why we're all applauding as we welcome Loki back to the stage. So much to talk about Karim. But the British situation has become interesting. The first person that the new Labour Prime Minister Andy Burnham called was Donald Trump and gave him permission for what he laughably described as defensive strikes which turned out to be the heaviest American bombers setting off for Iran to Murder men, women and children there. That seems to suggest that Andy Burnham isn't much of a change from Keir Starmer. Am I right?
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Bijan
Absolutely, George, and it's wonderful to be back with you now. Thank you for having me. I think what people need to understand is Keir Starmer was literally the only leader of this country that was a member of the Trilateral Commission before he was Prime Minister of the country. Now, the Trilateral Commission is a key US military, business, think tank, and other esteemed members of it had been Jeffrey Epstein and George Bush. So really, for somebody to be more servile to the United States than Keir Starmer, and that is Andy Burnham now, is quite an achievement, actually. But also I think what people in this country fail to understand is the legacy that Britain has in a country like Iran. Of course, you and I will remember that Mohammad Mosaddegh, the democratically elected leader of Iran in the 50s, committed the unforgivable crime of wanting his nation not to be a petrol station for what would become bp. It was at that time called the Anglo Iranian Oil Company. Now, when he said that he wanted to nationalize that company, the British with the CIA, and of course the Shah at that time, not this dwindling fool that we see now being pushed forward as a leader, but his. It would have been his grandfather at that time, if I remember correctly, if not his father, was imposed on Iran by both the CIA and MI6 in what they called the White Revolution, which is where they deposed the democratically elected leader, Mohammad Mosaddegh. What Britain has done since then is infrastructurally been locked into a relationship with both the United States and Israel where they assist intelligence operations against Iran. For example, in the case of the OFA Shipping Group, this was a group which was docking in Iran and according to a Sunday Times article published, was ferrying elite agents for Israel inside Iran for many years for assassinations and whatnot. Now, that very company is not only a UK based company, but also, in addition to that, the group protecting its navigation across the seas was an offshoot of the British Ministry of Defence by the name of Ambry. And so now you have ofa family putting money into UK politics, particularly Robert Jenrick has received a lot of money from Aydin Ofa, who of course was the head of those shipping companies that were involved in such a scandal. So Britain has structurally this very close relationship with what the United States and Israel have been doing across the years to Iran. They are the previous colonial power that was attempting to impose a particular way of doing things on Iran. And, and now you have British Petroleum, the roots. How many people in this country know? They will know bp, but very few of them will know that. The roots of BP are in something called the Anglo Iranian Oil Company which was about siphoning the wealth of Iran outside of it. And it's a massive mistake for the political elites of this country to make this, this era of judgment vis a vision Iran. And of course they're not on the right side of history. When you look at the military budgets of these states, Iran's military budget is around $10 billion. The United States military budget is 100 times that. If you were to take China, Russia and Iran put together, their military budget is about 500 billion. The US budget is almost twice that of put together of China, Russia and Iran. So a very clear answer to your poll today, without a shadow of a doubt, the United States is the greatest threat to human life across the world and it's built that way.
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George Galloway
And yet for all that money, they have been completely unable to subjugate the Islamic Republic of Iran with its $10 billion total defense budget. They have not been able to land a single boot on the ground for fear of that boot being carried home horizontally. They have not been able to destroy Iran's missile capability, an entirely homegrown missile capability. They have not been able to open the Straits of Hormuz that were open before the sneak attack last year and the sneak attacks subsequently. They have not been able to achieve any of their objectives. And even the frenzied bombing of the last few nights has paused, some say because the Americans have run out of munitions. Although if that happened to me and I'd spent a trillion dollars, I'd be asking why? What do you think is the reason why?
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Bijan
Well, let's be clear. First of all what Iran is asking for is actually a very simple demand that is in place in other countries. So Egypt derives a taxation from the use of the Suez Canal. Turkey derives taxation from the Bosphorus. Okay, this is very basic what Iran is asking for. It's not asking for something unreasonable at all. Now if you look at the way that the US military and the military industrial complex specifically has been structured, you know, Eisenhower warned the United States about this. What you have is a shakedown. Of course the well known book the War is a massive racket. This is what it is. It's been the way that the US military industrial complex is structured. Maximum profit extraction from the public purse. So therefore you'll have projects like the F35 or which most expensive military project in history that didn't work at the beginning, but you know, is forced on governments around the world. They want it as well, because it supposedly gives them air superiority. But what Iran has proved is that the opposite logic, which is the necessity is the mother of innovation, has actually worked to debilitate what the United States is trying to do. Now, what that comes out of is the humiliation of the Shah's period. So during the Shah's time, he signed a military project with Israel called Project Flower. Now, in that project, what you essentially saw was Israel run off with Iran's intellectual property and Iran had nothing to show for it. Also, the Shah made a deal for hundreds of tanks from the British that once the revolution happened in 1979, they never got their money back and they also never got their tanks. So what happened was in the Iran Iraq War, Iran was subject to missile strikes on its villages and its cities and was unable to protect itself because it simply didn't have the capabilities. They'd shoot back flares in some cases. And then you had a gentleman by the name of Hasan Tahrani Mughadam who took it upon himself to go to Syria with 13 other individuals and they learned how to reverse engineer some of the rocketry that they had access to. The Libyans also gave them access. The North Koreans also gave them access. And really through the ingenuity of the Iranian population, they were able to develop rockets, clearly understanding that they couldn't go fight a jet for fighter jet generally with the United states. They spent 40 years preparing for their war with the United States. They understood that when Yemen was subject to the Saudi campaign, which killed a huge amount of people, which bombed all types of civilian infrastructure across the country, this was the United States, this was Britain, and this was Israel fighting against a regional project for decolonization, decolonization of the militaries, decolonization of the economies. When they saw the war in Lebanon, they understood that this was not just Israel fighting Lebanon, it was the United States fighting Lebanon when they faced their Six Day War, which you have to remember, Iran has been victorious in the 40 day war against the United States and Israel. It was victorious in the war against Israel before in2025, and it is seemingly victorious now. Now the reason that the United States is trying to back off, extricate itself from this and have its war against the Axis of Resistance fought by proxies is because, as you have alluded to, its air defenses are essentially spent. They are now rationing their air defenses. They do not have a hope in hell of putting boots on the ground. In fact, that would be the quagmire which Iran is inviting. These US forces, let's be clear, George, across the war on terror, have been used to sitting in military bases in Nevada, controlling drones that kill farmers in Afghanistan. They are certainly not in a situation where they can go onto the ground in the Zagros Mountains and attempt to take on a force that has been training for them for 40 years. It is an unwinnable war for the United States.
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George Galloway
Trump has no off ramp, really. He can. Having promised to condign savagery all week, he can hardly now say that he's won and pull stumps and leave. And the American elections are racing towards us at a rate of not certainly faster than the US Navy is able to get to the coastline of Iran. Where do you think this leaves him?
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Bijan
Well, Trump, as you know, was somebody that sold himself on being anti war, on being the antithesis of the neocons who had controlled U.S. foreign policy at least since Bush Jr's time. And so really, he tried to differentiate himself, but actually he clearly fell into the clutches of the very same forces that believe that a war against Iran was winnable. Not understanding that when you establish 31 military cities underground in which you are developing missiles which can strike from incredible distance that the opposition know have little intelligence on it, it means that he's really locked into this situation. And his best hope at this stage is to try and pass off the region into a proxy war situation which can drive things to a kind of standstill. But then on the other side, what seems to be one effect of this war is the establishment of sort of politicized supply chains. So what the United States was able to establish through its near a thousand military bases around the world was its role as the bodyguard of global capital. It was protecting the global trade. But it's lost all credibility now in that way. And really it is down to straight up extortion of other countries and trying to, you know, literally 25% of humanity exists in political systems which are under US sanctions. Now, those sanctions, it has been estimated by Lancet, have caused 38 million deaths across the last four or five decades. That's not me saying that. That is the Lancet Medical Journal. 38 million people killed by U.S. sanctions across the last four to five decades. So really, the United States is now ramping up its economic warfare against the rest of us because it has failed in Iran. It will attack soft targets more ferociously. And as you've seen in Venezuela, you know, someone like yourself, George, who gave a lot also to the cause of freedom in Venezuela against imperialist rule. For you to see these moves by Delsey Rodriguez and others, you know, swapping selfies with Marco Rubio on WhatsApp, welcoming in the Israelis. This is what happens when the empire loses out in one place is it becomes far more ferocious in other places at imposing its will on those political systems. So it's interesting how this will all play out. I think Trump will probably suffer in the elections because of the longer this goes on, and he deserves to. The question is whether the US Political system can produce an actual alternative to this kind of way of interacting with the world.
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George Galloway
Finally, I'm interested in your take on this travesty in the icc. Now, I don't know if this Karim Khan is a dirty degenerate or not. I presume he wouldn't have been a KC if that degeneracy had been known. But hey, we're constantly surprised these days. I do know that rich and powerful dirty dogs are not usually defenestrated and are not usually cast aside. But Karim Khan has been so call me Sherlock Holmes. I think that Karim Khan has been made an example of to tell the international legal system, such as it is, that Israel remains completely off limits to you. And if you dream of seeking to arrest Netanyahu or any Israeli leader, we will deal with you. That's certainly how the Israeli media are portraying the downfall of Karim Khan on television this evening.
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Bijan
Well, you have to look back at the interview with Fatou Bensouda, who was his predecessor at the icc. She spelled out very clearly the Israeli campaign against her. When she began looking into the subject, she said she was accosted at her home by people who had rented a car. But the car being rented it was the ID given to rent the car was from Israelis. This is what later became apparent to them. She then was in a meeting with another political leader. And the head of Mossad at the time literally was unveiled to her at the meeting, came and started speaking to her. And then she was routinely approached by the same head of Mossad across the world in different locations that she was. This is the predecessor to Kareem Khan. So for us to assume that this is merely an organic process would be the height of naivety, to be honest with you, George. So, without a doubt, you have to have that aspect of it. It's a continuous Israeli campaign to escape accountability. And the ICC has been one mere glimmer of hope in that possibility. But then when you look at the fact that the United States since 2002, has had the Hague Invasion act within its legal setup, whereby it maintains the right to launch a military invasion of the ICC and shutting it down, if it were to even give the impression that it might move against the United States, that is the extent to which this grotesque military civilization has an opposition to any form of mirror being put up against its actions. When the ICC was harassing presidents of states with economies smaller than one state in the United States, it was not a problem. When the ICC was harassing the political enemies of Israel and the United States, there was absolutely no problem. In fact, it was treated as sacrosanct international law. But now we see that Israel being gently targeted by the icc, it is a big problem. All hell is breaking loose. And actually it's not just that, but Marco Rubio has vowed to dismantle the icc. And as I just mentioned, the case of Venezuela, it has now pulled out of the ICC while in the midst of trying to get back on its feet from the earthquake and the Israelis and the Americans swooping in to take over the country.
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George Galloway
And in Gaza, where we once were together, the war, the killing, the massacres, the genocide, just drags on, doesn't it?
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Bijan
And, George, you know, the part of Gaza that you and me stood in, Rafah, barely exists today. The people we saw, it's unlikely that they're still alive. The walls that we looked at, the surroundings we were in, have been destroyed by this military juggernaut which spends exorbitant amounts of resource on building these killing machines. And Gaza, it must be said, was not actually a victory for these destroyers of life. The Palestinians, according to Israel's ideas, were supposed to be thrown into the Sinai Desert of Egypt, and that has not happened. When you actually compare the level of violence and the level of displacement in the Nakba to this, what I would argue, 1948, the violence was less in 1948. The displacement was more. The violence was more in 2023-2026. But the displacement has actually, numerically speaking, been less. There are even when you look at the level of displacement in 1948, those almost 1 million Palestinians were about 50% of the Palestinian population. Today you have a Palestinian population worldwide which is around 16 million people. So actually, the axis of resistance has performed a great service to humanity in facing off this military juggernaut in the way it's had. It has. But of course, the human cost has been horrific and massive.
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George Galloway
Sobering thought Indeed, Loki, as always, a master class. Thanks for joining us on the Mother of All Talk Shows. Loki is a hip hop artist, but he is also host of the Watchdog podcast A Much Worse. Let's have a quick break and then it's your call. Stay tuned. You are listening to the Mother of All Talk Shows podcast with George galloway. Well, almost 45,000 people have now voted on the poll. Which is the greatest threat to the world, China, Russia or the United States of America? Get your vote in. Let's get this to a 50,000 poll. That is a very large opinion poll. Can vote on Telegram on my x, on the YouTube community poll on the YouTube stream or on patreon.com George Galloway let's go to New York where Tom wants to talk about Iran. Tom, welcome.
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Caller from Michigan / Various Callers
Hi George, it's an honor to speak with you again. I'm afraid the pending depression will be worse than you and Professor Morandi predict. Of course, the longer the war, the Iranian war goes, the worse it will be for the global economy. While most people focus on the war, another factor continues to grow in the background. According to the BBC, Goldman Sachs 300 million jobs will be eliminated by AI artificial intelligence. For example, Microsoft recently laid off 4800 workers, including jobs in the popular and profitable Xbox video game. More. Why pay software coder $250,000 a year or more plus health care stock benefits when AI can do it for free? Mark Zuckerberg was quoted on a secret tape expressing similar sentiments about laying off Meta employees. After those top wage earners and millions more become redundant due to AI, where will the tax revenue come to pay America's 40 trillion dollars in debt plus another 100 trillion in unfunded Social Security, Medicaid, Medicaid liabilities. Even if trillionaire Elon Musk had a quote, come to Jesus end quote moment and decide to give all his trillion dollars away, it would be in the drop in the bucket. After World War II, the United States imposed Article 7 to quote, rescue and quote Great Britain. It may be worse for America. No one wants to buy our debt. After President Biden removed Russia From Swift in 2022, the Federal Reserve must keep interest rates high to attract buyers for our debt. Nitrate of debt must be refinanced in 2026. Will Beijing save the sinking USS American Titanic? I don't think so. Depression may give way to civil unrest and wars. Millions may start from famine because the Persian Gulf supplies about 20 to 25% of the world's fertilizer, Russian fertilizer sanctions and Ukrainian Fertilizer is largely unavailable because of the war.
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George Galloway
That was dazzlingly brilliant as a call, the best call of the night, the best call of many a night. And you didn't even get to when what's going to happen on the bond markets tomorrow when the markets open, Cognizance will be paid to the fact that China has smashed the American AI bubble into the dust. Trillions of dollars have been invested in the United States of America, in the stock markets, in a future of AI that they thought they were going to dominate and make vast profits from. But the extraordinary breakthrough of Kimmy in China has laid waste all of their plans because Kimmy is going to be free. Nobody will be making profits from American AI when you can get Chinese AI just as good, largely better for nothing, for free. So Palantir and Teal and Musk and Grok and all these losers have just suffered a catastrophic collapse in their forecasts, in their prospects. And Metta just did a bond which has totally and abysmally filled a disappointing 7.9% yield. Meta called it. You wait till the bond markets open tomorrow. You wait till the stock market opens tomorrow. And you didn't even get to in your brilliant, dazzlingly brilliant call. You did not even get to what the outcome is going to be when the mass movements of people, poor people, begins as a result of this war in the Persian Gulf. Starting with the mass movement of millions, largely of Indian subcontinent extraction, who will no longer be able to live in the Persian Gulf because there'll be no water, there'll be no air conditioning, no refrigeration, there will be no automation, there will be nothing. And they will be on the move. Where will they move? Not to Milwaukee. They can't get there. They're not going to go and sit in the desert and die. They are coming to Europe through Turkey, millions and millions of them and no border guard will be able to stop them. And the European economies already on their knees will be on the floor. You didn't even get to that in your brilliant call, Tom. New York. Now some comments on YouTube about tonight's poll. Kimberly Cressin says, as an American, I gotta say our puppet government is the Most dangerous. And RMZ 1221 says the one with 800 plus bases outside of its own territory. Michelle Smith says, who started the most wars after World War II? And Shkipe Bekiri says, george, why didn't you mention Israel in the list of the greatest threats? Well, I don't draw up the polls, but this would be my answer America and Israel are the same place. They are the same country. Their military has just merged. Their intelligence services have long ago merged. Their political leadership has completely merged. So for the United States of America, I'd say read Israel. And Rafael Legenda sends five US Dollars. Thank you. Raf says the Ukraine war would have been over three years ago if we did not have Mother Mahatma Putin running Russia. Go after them harder. On line two from the great state of Michigan is Dana, who believes the US Is in trouble. Donna, tell us.
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Caller from Michigan / Various Callers
Good evening, sir. It's glad to talk to you again. I'm sitting here right now listening. Thank you. Sitting here listening to you looking at a website called Traffic Track, a pack for the state of Michigan. And every single person that is a representation for my state has taken money from the Israel lobby. And I'm sure you are very aware of the Authorization Defense act that was passed by Congress and going to Senate to merge Israel's military with our own. Question to you, sir, is what does the world think of that?
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George Galloway
Well, the world does know about it. First of all, most of the mainstream media have, have an Iron Dome protecting the propaganda interests of the empire and, and in particular Israel in this context. But insofar as people know about it, for me it's a recognition of reality. For me it is the case. And I've argued it here for years. Some will remember when people say, does Israel control the United States or does the United States control Israel? I have argued for years on here that this is a false dichotomy, that these two countries are the same thing that so integrated into the empire system has Israel become, that it is now not meaningful to try to separate their interests. Of course, there are some in the United States, including some in the elite, I dare say even inside the White House. Not Trump, but the other guy who would prefer if this was not quite rubbed in the noses of the American people as egregiously and vulgarly as. As it has been in the Trump and Biden administrations. There are others, however, like the late and unlamented Lindsey Graham. I hope someone stands over his grave on Tuesday until they are sure that he is dead and were open, open advocates of just that, integration. Last word to you, Donna.
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Caller from Michigan / Various Callers
I appreciate the time, sir. And I'll tell you as a local here of Michigan, the state and the United States, the country is very disappointed in Trump. I voted for that man for three, three times. And the disappointment and the disgust that I feel and the betrayal is overwhelming. I am a Gen Xer. I was born in 1975. And I am definitely was raised to never talk about Israel or politics or religion. And I have broken out of that a long time ago. It has cost me a lot as far as friends and family and so on. But I've stuck to my guns and I've. I've became a politic nut, learned everything I can. I don't agree with some stuff, but Alex Jones was right about a lot of things. You're right about a lot of things. And the Epstein files are definitely 100% fact and they're being covered up. Did you see Trump's hat on the other night?
- [58:43]
George Galloway
We'll get them. You ain't any kind of politics nut. You are exactly the kind of politicized, conscientious people that the world needs and that the United States perhaps needs most of all. Trump won the state of Michigan promising peace. I watched, I mean, I studied the election in the state of Michigan, a state I know well, in which I have many times spoken, where I have many friends. A state with a huge Arab American, a huge Muslim American presence. He won that state purely on the promise that he was going to bring peace in the Middle east if he had told the people in the great state of Michigan, vote for me, if elected, I will allow Netanyahu to mass mother. Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, Iranians, Yemenis. You think he would have won the state of Michigan? This man is guilty of one of the most gross deceptions in the history of politics. And my goodness, that's a hard title to snatch. Now, just before the break, a proper word of recognition for some of tonight's top Moats, John Nagao, Heather Liardet, Mn Beg, Lyn Tymperley and David Hall. A big thanks to every one of you. If you want to join them on the wall of Fame, please go to Moats TV and click the link. Donate now. You need to give. I'm busking for you for two hours. Very, very late at night. I need you to give. Don't pass me by. Don't leave my hat empty. Moats tv. Click the link. Donate now. Now, coming up, we've got my protege, my political son, the finest man in America, Jackson Hinkle. You don't want to miss it. Stay tuned. You are listening to the mother of all talk shows podcast with George Galloway. Sheer genius, that Donald Trump jingle. A big congratulation to those behind it. Just before I go to Jackson Hinkle, let me tell you that we've passed 45,000 votes on tonight's poll and we could easily get to 50 before the poll closes in about 45 minutes. So get voting Telegram t me George Galloway on my x on the YouTube community poll, on the YouTube stream and on patreon.com George Galloway. Jackson Henkel can be described as a political analyst. He's definitely the host of legitimate targets. But I think that as a political analyst, he's better than almost all the rest. He is a young man of courage and distinction, and I'm proud to call him my friend. Jackson Hinkle, welcome back to the mother of all talk shows. Wonderful to see you again, although I've been seeing quite a lot about you and on you. They certainly took umbrage at the attendance that you and a large number of journalists and broadcasters did, but they particularly focused on you because of the profile you have and, well, because you're devilishly handsome. How have you survived it?
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Jackson Hinkle
Thanks for having me back on, George. It's always a pleasure and far too kind of an intro. But you know, this, this attack against myself and you know, I think there was at least five other American citizens that were at the funeral of Saeed Ali Khamenei in Tehran was really incredible for a number of reasons. I mean, it is, it was the largest gathering of human beings in all of history. 43 million people attended this funeral in both Iran and Iraq, and then back in Mashad at the end back in Iran. And I think just the numbers from the funeral attendance in Karbala in Iraq alone would have placed that funeral at one of the largest gatherings in human history, just by those numbers. And obviously Saeed Ali Khamenei was not the leader of Iraq. But, you know, I can't say I'm surprised. I think a lot of these people in the US Deep state are eternally jealous of how a man could be so beloved by his people, by the citizens he represents. And we're going to see Lindsey Graham's funeral very soon, as you were just talking about. And we know there's not going to be 43 million people in attendance for that. I would, I'd be, I'd be surprised if there's 4343 may even be a bit of a shock to me. I think these are going to be mostly lizard people at his funeral. Not too many real people.
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George Galloway
Quite so now I followed online as many of the viewers were will have the extraordinary events that you describe. But what did it feel like to be there with your boots on the ground, as it were? Did you experience, for example, any enmity from Iranian people? After all, it was Your country that killed them?
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Jackson Hinkle
No, there was no enmity whatsoever. I mean, I think a lot of Iranians were happy to see that there are Americans willing to come visit and to learn about their country, their culture, their faith. And you know, it's a multi faith society. I went to the Armenian Christian church, we went to the synagogue that got Jewish synagogue which got blown up by the way, by Israel in the Ramadan war. And seemingly none of the, you know, Zionist Jewish leaders in Washington D.C. are upset about that, but everyone was just very pleased. And all I had to say to them was there are many more Americans at home who feel the same exact way I do, who not only oppose this war but have a deep love for the Iranian people because it's the people that power the revolution in that country, which is striking much more than a bloody nose at the empire which is oppressing the same Americans back at home that hold these beliefs. So you know, there was one thing that really caught my eye when I was in Iran and that was on the night where I visited Engleb Square, the revolution square and one of the many places where they're holding these nightly rallies, rallying around the flag, rallying, you know, to, to pay their respects to the martyred supreme leader and in the face of the Zionist U. S Aggression. And I went up on the stage and when I was on the stage there was tens of thousands of people out in England square and I was there with Hossein Tahiri who's one of the most powerful, well known singers in all of Iran. They, they have these religious songs which I'm sure you know, called noha, which are, are essentially like Quranic verses turned into music. And when I looked out in the crowd, it was the most energetic, passionate crowd I've ever seen in my life. And the thing that shouldn't be lost on anyone is that most of the people in the crowd were young people. Gen Z. And you know as well as I do, you travel across the world, you see how Gen Z in so many countries is getting caught up in this brain rot of the western culture and their brains are being poisoned. Couldn't be further from the truth. In Iran Gen Z is fully with the revolution, fully dedicated, and that was the most beautiful thing I saw.
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George Galloway
And yet Donald Trump tells us this is defeated people begging him for peace. This is a people with no armed forces left to speak of, economically ruined, oppressed by a small clique. But I know that's not true. But you were there. Tell us the extent to which it isn't true.
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Jackson Hinkle
Well, I mean, first of all, everywhere you go, I only went to Tehran, so that's all I can speak of. But, you know, our good friend Chris Halali, he went on to Najaf. I believe he went to Mashad. We had a bunch of friends in Karbala and everywhere I went, at least in Tehran. And I'm sure the same was true for Chris when he traveled elsewhere. It was just, you know, full support for the revolution and for the martyred leader. And the one thing I will say that, you know, obviously not everyone in the country supports the government. That would be insane and delusional to believe that no country on the face of the earth has full support from its citizenry. But what I will say is when I went around and was speaking on the streets with some shop owners, you know, the bizarre, the. In the bazaars, and I was speaking to people, you know, very proficient in the English language because they. Some of them went to Western universities, and even they were saying things like, look, at the end of the day, you know, we had our. You know, we had. We had our thoughts about the government and this and that. But how could anyone support the actions of the US at this moment? Why are they bombing little schoolgirls? Why are they bombing girls playing volleyball? Why are they bombing civilians all across the country, innocent people? So the actions of the United States, as we all predicted, actually resulted, and probably the only group of people who would have been sympathetic to them turning their backs against the empire and saying, wow, I guess everything our government was saying that, you know, the Zionists in the US Are willing to do anything imaginable, even murdering schoolgirls, to try and stop our sovereignty. I guess. I guess our government was correct. And that was. That was very telling for me.
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George Galloway
No, you were absolutely correct to tell the Iranians that many people in the United States feel like you do about this matter. In fact, support for the war has now fallen in just a few months, has now fallen lower than any war in which the United States has ever been involved. It is an overwhelmingly unpopular war, and there are nationwide elections in your country hurtling towards us. November is not long. I mean, I've fought a lot of elections. I know that you're a candidate in November. You're already in full election mode right now, and. And it's looking like a disaster for Trump. Will it end up that way?
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Jackson Hinkle
I don't think he cares. I think Trump would be happy with the Republican Party dying for the foreseeable future with him. It's kind of A badge of honor in his eyes, I'd imagine. He can, he can look out and say, you know, well, you know, the Republican Party dies without me. I'm the only guy that could make it happen. So I wouldn't be so surprised if Trump is okay with everything falling apart, falling to pieces. And, you know, obviously this is going to take a toll, but I think what we should really be on the lookout for is how far those public support polls are going to go down for this war if they do something as ludicrous as a ground invasion, which is a real possibility. I mean, they might do that. I think that the sky is the limit for how high the negativity is going to be with this war and what the ramifications of that are going to be beyond the elections. That's the real question. Because we're, we're looking at something much bigger than that. We're looking at, you know, Sean Ryan is going out on Tucker Carlson show and saying that all the special operations guys in the US Military hate Israel and they don't want to participate in this and they know that they're going to be going to die for Netanyahu if they get sent into this mess. So you're talking about the upper echelons of the US Military, which we've already known are opposed to this war in some numbers, some are not. And you're talking about some of the most expert level operators that the US has at their disposal, killing machines who are going to have their lives put on the line. And it is a decision to make. I think that this could spiral into something much bigger if they take it down the road, which unfortunately, it looks
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George Galloway
like we are headed revolution in the air.
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Jackson Hinkle
I mean, at some point, what, what is. We got Trump now coming out and saying that he's going to give Saudi Arabia nuclear technology, also possibly enrichment, by the way. And the catch there is not that Saudi Arabia is going to be forced to invest a trillion more dollars in the United States or give some sort of, you know, special offer to the United States. Trump is saying, we're going to give you nuclear program, uranium enrichment, and you have to do recognition of Israel, you have to join the Abraham Accords. I mean, everything in our foreign policy and even domestic policy now is really just gauged at protecting Israel, boosting Israel, integration of our defense production lines, you name it. Netanyahu is having a bunch of success across the pond, as we all know, with Burnham, and forcing the UK and France and Germany to remove their consulary staffs in Tehran. Netanyahu has had quite a week, and I think we're at the tip of the iceberg because he's about to go and meet with Trump, go to Lindsey Graham's funeral. Elections are about to happen. US Troops are amassing in Kuwait, and there seems to be a lot of Iranian buildup across the Alpha Peninsula on the Iran Iraq border, preparing for something really big that may happen.
- [74:15]
George Galloway
Yeah, I mean, I posed the revolution question for this reason. Although the Democrats on paper are opposed to this war, when it comes to their votes in Congress, they're not. They always contrive to have a sufficient number of Democratic Party rebels voting against the party line to give Trump his way, like in the merger of the two armed forces this week of Israel and the United States. The UNI Party is incapable of really profiting from this political opportunity that has arisen. And of course, the left of which you're a part, I'm a part, is scarcely able to rise to the occasion. It is quite an unpotentially, quite an unstable political situation in the US Right now.
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Jackson Hinkle
I fully agree. The problem is that those decision makers, I guess, at least within the cultural spheres, that kind of guide where things are headed for the next several years. I mean, who do we have as the main opposition right now to the Trump regime amongst the youth in America? It's, I mean, really, it's Hasan Piker and I guess you could say our party in the U.S. i mean, we're definitely a large force. And well, Nick Fuentes, I would have said maybe a few months ago, but he's kind of died off and he's saying he's going to cast votes for Democrats in the next, next election. So I guess that kind of flew out the window. But at least Hassan Piker and Hassan Piker, what is he doing? He's doing the same exact thing that Jimmy Dore very, he got very close. But you know, he tried to do during the pandemic with forcing the vote on universal health care in the United States. And what happened during that with, you know, Cenk Uygur, Jimmy Dore, even Kyle Kalinsky, all these people, they got together, they got AOC elected. The first person AOC ever did an interview with was Jimmy Dore. He was the first person to ever have her on any show. They get all these people elected and there's mass mobilization behind this effort. And then what do you know, we're just a few votes shy of forcing the vote on Medicare for All. Just a few bad vote shy. Just like what you said, they're always just a few bad votes shy of achieving any sort of, you know, political goals on these votes in the House of Representatives. And the reason they do that, there's actually a term for it, it's slipping my mind at the moment. But they do that and they switch off who has to take the bad vote each and every time. You probably know as well as I do from your extensive time in Parliament that this is just how it goes. And of course that leaves out the question of the U.S. senate. I mean, that that's just a dead end. But why, why is the grand idea from Hassan Piker? I think he's maybe has good intentions, but it's like we're just going to repeat what some other people like Jimmy Dore and your uncle Jake Uygur tried six years ago and think that this is going to work this time. I mean, these people are all captured. If they don't take money from aipac, they'll take money from J Street, which is the Democratic Party progressive Israel lobby organization. And they don't report these things on track apac, they don't report these things in these sorts of media outlets because they want to make certain politicians look better than they actually are.
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George Galloway
You see, I'm thinking that the conditions are maturing for a third force. Not a communist force or a socialist force, though both would be a part of that third force. I'm talking about a Spartacus, an unlikely Ivy League Spartacus like Tucker Carlson, the best known man in America after Donald Trump. The most eloquent, loquacious of Trump's critics, Candace Owens. I'm thinking of people like that. Could they not seize this moment that seems to be coming upon us?
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Jackson Hinkle
Well, you know, firsthand, I'm very supportive of the idea of, I'm support supportive of what Tucker's been saying and doing. And we just, I think, you know, he's got to stop saying that JD Vance wouldn't be doing and saying all the same things that Trump is doing right now because JD Vance went out on Joe Rogan this week, last week, and literally said that we had to launch this war because we couldn't allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon. So he's actually already saying these things right now. I have zero Hope whatsoever in J.D. vance. I'll never have hope in J.D. vance. First of all, zero percent chance of winning the election. He's just not charismatic. He's like a stale loaf of bread walking around in a suit. But I mean, what, what is there to J.D. vance? What are his politics? What Joe Kintz resigned. Tulsi Gabbard resigned. You're not going to resign. Your name is on the paper. Your name is on the bombs of these tomahawks that are going, blowing up these children. I know that's, I guess, maybe unprecedented in American history, but wouldn't that actually make you the hero of the American people right now if you said, I'm not going to be a part of this? And hey, oh, by the way, I'm running for president in the next elections because I'm not going to stand with this. I would be very moved by that if he did something like that. But of course he goes along with the machine, he plays the politics. And so I think it's a bit odd that Tucker says he believes in JD So much. But I, I, I'd hope that Tucker says, you know, I'm, I'm not going to support JD I'm not going to support anyone who's a part of the COVID up of the Epstein files, the continuation of the proxy war against Russia, the war on Iran. And he himself says, I'm going to be the one that does it. Or Candace, you mentioned Candace. She's great too.
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George Galloway
I think I can say without betraying any confidences that Tucker Carlson is carefully weighing up whether he is the best hope. And I think it's important that people such as you, such as I, who have different politics from Tucker Carlson on many things, can get behind him on the most important thing, which is saving the world from World War three, which is ending the war against Russia, which is stopping the agony of, of the Palestinian people, stop bankrolling and arming Israel. Tucker's with us on all of those things and they're pretty important.
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Jackson Hinkle
Yes. And I don't think I've smiled as big as I ever have when he said that George Galloway should be the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom right now. And if it wasn't for the simple fact that the, the government and the political apparatus in the UK is controlled by Israel, then you would be, I, I had the biggest grin on my face and I'll never forget that. And he's right, he's 100, right. And you know, like I said, it's like I want, I want him to be, he says all these great things and I, I think he believes these things and I want him to be that guy. We, we can't allow this opportunity to slip by when the American public is so awake to what's going on. You heard the caller you were talking to. That caller said she voted for Trump 3 or. Yeah, three times. She's from Michigan. That's the type of people we need right now. And there are so many people across America who have that same exact sentiment towards Trump toward the whole political system in the United States. And we need a sledgehammer, we need a stake to drive through the heart of this imperialist beast once and for all. And it's not going to be J.D. vance, that's for sure.
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George Galloway
Absolutely. We're in full agreement on that. Jackson Hinkle, host of Legitimate Targets. Always hitting legitimate targets with eloquence and courage. Thank you for joining us. The mother of all talk shows, Jackson Hinkle, never disappoints. A quick break, then your calls, then Gayatri. Stay tuned. You are listening to the Mother of all talk Shows podcast with George Galloway. Can we get to 50,000 votes on this poll? Which is the greatest threat to the world? China, Russia or the United States of America? It is overwhelmingly the view of a staggering, almost 50,000 people that it's the USA and therefore the quantum is important. Imagine if we could say 50,000 people voted overwhelmingly to name the United States as the greatest threat to the world. Let's go to Pennsylvania where Stephanie wants to talk about Iran, the US and the hated. Pete Hegseth. Go ahead, Stephanie. Thanks for joining us.
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Caller from Pennsylvania / Various Callers
Hello, George.
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Caller from Michigan / Various Callers
I am humbled to share this call with you. You are an answered prayer as weird that sounds to say to myself. Sounds weird to me to say, but you know, you fill a void in my heart that was left there by my MAGA father who wandered off into the void and I don't know if I can get him back. So thank you for your humanity and your objectivity in all of these happenings.
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George Galloway
Thank you.
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Caller from Michigan / Various Callers
I had a lot of thoughts. You know, you mentioned the Minab School being bombed and absolutely no official accountability from the United States government. And then my mind went to Pete Hegseth. You know, I said, what kind of psychopath? And Pete Hegseth popped up and I just wondered, you know, he said he was going to quit drinking when he got this job. I wonder how that's going for him as a recovering alcoholic. I know, I was told, and I came to believe that I had a thinking problem, not a drinking problem. The alcohol was a symptom and we are being led by drug addicted alcoholic individuals. We need deliverance from the egos of these men and these women. We want to, you know, prevent World War three. We can't fight these people and their egos. Right. We have to Go inward and face our own and look to what is actually important.
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George Galloway
Well, that's a very beautiful call, Stephanie. A very self reflective and profound call. And of course, in part, I agree with you. We have experienced degeneration of the human condition. Things which are supposed to be better economically than they were a hundred years ago have produced a society that is actually worse than it was a hundred years ago. The level of family unity, of community cohesion, the level of sincere and genuine patriotism, the level of, of commitment to ensuring a better world for one's children than the one that we inherited, these are all much worse indices than they were a hundred years ago. Of that I have no doubt. And in part, although not born a hundred years ago, it won't be long before I will have been born three quarters of a century ago. I'll be 72 in a couple of weeks. So I can say that our society, the culture of our society is definitely degenerating, even though people, whilst often poor in our countries, are not as poor as they were 90 years ago in the middle of the Great Depression. So a lot of it, you're right, is about us turning inwards, looking at ourselves, asking these questions as to how we got to this place and how we can get out of it. But a lot of it is stuff that can't wait for that. Now, November is the election. Now, I don't know who's going to be the candidate in Pennsylvania, but I do know that you have a senator, John Fetterman, who's not only the most buffoonish, almost Shakespearean character of buffoonery, but is one of the most malignant and evil senators. I know he's not up for re election at the November poll, but you have to punish these people. And I hope there will be great candidates that you can vote for. But in my opinion, you have to vote for the candidate who will punish the people who are in power right now and who need punishing right now. That's, I think, the only way that the election can be meaningful if in the ruins of the election, Trump and his party can see what all this has cost them. So my view would be don't vote Republican. It doesn't mean the Democrats are any better, but just don't vote Republican because they're in power, they are committing these crimes and must be punished for them. Of course, if you can get behind a Green Party or an independent of note, and there are places, well, that will be possible, but where it isn't possible, the rubric should be don't vote Republican, punish the Republicans so that they can see the level of what will be by then the winter of their discontent. And we got to make it a bitter cold winter for the Republican Party come November. Now Patreon Comments Remember, we really need you to subscribe to Patreon.com GeorgeGalloway Some of our best supporters are supporting the show that way and one of those is definitely a man who's become a friend of mine, Matthew White, who says the USA had the chance to be the greatest thing that ever happened to mankind. They even got the world to themselves post ussr and I'm afraid that has just disappeared off my screen. But I'll come back to it because Matthew's words looked as if they were going to be profound and now they are. They opted instead for poisoning their own people and bringing down the global marketplace criminals and inverse proportionality says all empires collapse. As the Greek, Roman and British empires have demonstrably shown us, they became the greatest threat to their world around them. The USA is no exception, with a massive debt they are unable to repay and led by individuals who couldn't get entry level positions they presently lead anywhere else. And Amy Sanchez says it has always been the US and before it England. People seem shocked to find colonialist people committing colonial atrocities. Jeremy is in California on Egypt and Palestine. Jeremy, welcome. What have you got to say?
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Caller from Michigan / Various Callers
Well George, enlighten me. Enlighten me like you've been doing for years because apparently I've missed something.
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Caller from Pennsylvania / Various Callers
The genocide going on on the Gaza Strip.
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Caller from Michigan / Various Callers
You've got the Mediterranean Sea on one
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George Galloway
side, you got southern Israel on the
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Caller from Michigan / Various Callers
other side, but you've got Egypt on
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Caller from Pennsylvania / Various Callers
the other side of the border there of Gaza.
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Caller from Michigan / Various Callers
I've heard that Egypt has shut that border down.
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Caller from Pennsylvania / Various Callers
They won't allow anybody to cross, which would probably save a lot of lives
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Caller from Michigan / Various Callers
in Palestinians that want to flee the slaughter. But it's closed. Why isn't that border forced to be
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George Galloway
opened by the United States since we
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Caller from Michigan / Various Callers
own the dictator of that country?
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George Galloway
You own Egypt? Well, that's it. That's the. You've answered your own question, Jeremy. The United States owns Egypt and Egypt does exactly what the United States tells them to do. And that has been the case for a very long time, since the days of Anwar Sadat, who was the very wicked man who began the total betrayal of the Palestinian people with his so called Camp David Accords, followed by his Vice President Mubarak, who was no better at all, and so on. So you own Egypt and you decide what happens to Egypt. You Decide what the Egyptian army does, or more importantly, doesn't do, because you own it, you pay for it, you pick the officers, the generals. So Egypt is not a free agent in this regard. The Egyptian people remain the beating heart of, of the Arab world. You see it manifested whenever, wherever they can, at football matches, for example. When they are able to gather for another purpose, they turn that purpose into a political rally for the people of Gaza, for the Palestinian cause. The ordinary man and woman in Egypt is a strong for Palestine today as they have ever been. But they live in a wholly owned subsidiary of the United States empire. Now, of course, for medical cases, some people do get through, but the level of corruption involved in getting through is beyond the vast majority of of people in the Gaza Strip. But I'm against the mass evacuation of the Palestinian people from Gaza to Egypt to live in new camps in the Sinai Desert, because that's exactly what Israel wants to happen. That's why they did all this. That's why they committed this genocidal assault which goes on until this very day and hour. Why should the Palestinians go to Egypt? Once upon a time, they did this before. In 1948. 800,000 of them in 1948 fled the country of Palestine. And they believed that one day they would be able to come back to their own land. Their own houses, their own orchards, their own fields. But they never have been. So anybody that leaves Gaza would know that they were leaving their country of Palestine forever. And not many of them are ready to do that because they believe in their land, they believe in their country, they believe in their cause. They would rather remain in Palestine and fight for its recovery, albeit that that fight at the moment looks doomed. There are things worth dying for. There are things that are worse than death. Dishonor. Dishonor of your homeland, of your patrimony, the dishonor of the graves of your parents. That's worse than death. It's worse than death to walk away. As Shakespeare said in Julius Caesar, the brave man dies only once. The coward dies many times before his death. Now look the legend. Norma in Bristol has called in to the show. She's not well enough to go on air, but she wanted to let everyone know that she's watching. She has a CT scan Tuesday and is undergoing further treatment at the Bristol Royal Infirmary. She wanted to say hello to everyone on Moats. We're all thinking and praying for you, Norma, for your appointment on Tuesday. From all of us on the show, and I'm sure all of the audience who know you to be Our very first legend is praying for your health and your recovery. Let's go to Hamburg in Germany where Bijan wants to talk about Russia and Iran. Go ahead, Bijan.
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Caller from Michigan / Various Callers
Before I do so, first I have to congratulate you, George, to this amazing show so far, Young voices that you are platforming here that you know, we talked about Fidel Castro and a year, about a year before you were born, his first attempt failed. But then after you were born he finally succeeded and he was pretty old when you last met him. But you're carrying on the fire, the torch and now you're platforming people that promise to do so in the future. We all hope at least. And I think Jackson has been in China at the same time as you were and has seen the more enormous transformation and just as you have done, has highlighted that to a global audience and shown what Chinese socialism can be and can do. Something that you never see on mainstream TV anywhere, you just see fear mongering. But in fact I think you have proven that there's more freedom of debate in China. I think just recently I saw your debate on AI was an amazing debate, very interesting and I can just recommend everyone who hasn't watched it should watch it. So that's something that's not happening here. We don't see freedom of debate. We see dissenting voices being canceled and driven out everywhere. And well, in the case of the UK driven out of the country. Same is happening in Germany. And I think the reason for that is the war with Russia, obviously that has led to the fall of the last veneer of this regime. And I just wanted to highlight a connection that I haven't seen so far because these attacks on the refineries in Russia, deep into Russia, they hadn't been authorized and by NATO obviously. I mean they had been authorized by NATO in previous phases of this war. So you've got to wonder why is that happening now? And I think there's a direct connection to the failure of the US to pursue its goals in Iran and the lack of 20% of global oil supplies through the Straits of Hormuz. Because something that people maybe if you don't have a Marxist analysis economics, then it's difficult to see this. But the interesting thing here is that there is a global market price for oil, for crude oil, for WTI and for Branch. There isn't really a global market price for gasoline or jet fuel because that's more local. So the headline numbers, everyone is focused on everyone in the media and also many contracts are written in that way. You have a certain discount towards the brand. You add something to the, to the headline price of wti and that's the cost that the refinery wants from you if they deliver gasoline. So that's why the Treasury Department in the US has been laser focused on keeping that down with all kinds of manipulation, releasing the strategic petroleum reserves, financial manipulation. You know, Scott, Beth, and who is, I have to say that with a bit of respect, he is a mad genius. He was one of the best traders that George Soros ever had in his hedge fund. And he's, he's doing his financial dark wizardry. But I think treasury is also involved in, or was involved in the decision to authorize those strikes deep into Russia because the effect is that who's buying crude oil? Consumers are not buying crude oil. So the price consists of the supply, which has gone down by maybe 20%. But the demand side is the refineries. And now that the Russian refineries have been, some of them badly damaged and taken offline for a while, some of them have been repaired already. Russia does have some pretty good engineers. But that means that the demand is lower than it otherwise would have been. And I don't think that's a coincidence. I don't think it's an accident that this happened just now because the Trump administration's political survival depends on keeping the oil price below a certain limit. And so I think that's connected. And that's something Tucker Carlson recently spoke about. The manipulation, I think that's going more mainstream. People are real realizing that the futures market is not accurately reflecting supply and demand here. That's pretty obvious because, you know, the price is not anywhere near where it should be. But if you just cut people off and some poorer parts of Asia, obviously China is not affected because China has not only huge reserves, but they also have electrification. Lenin talked about that. Russia, the Soviet Union didn't quite realize it. But in China, I mean, I've been, most of the past, most of this year I spent in China and I can't remember when I was in a traditional combustion engine car. It's usually just electric cars everywhere. So they're not as affected. But obviously many poorer countries, the people don't get any gasoline at all. Right. There's shortages while in native countries.
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George Galloway
Exactly. You're exactly right that the, the price at the pump in the petrol station is not remotely what it should be given the paper price per barrel, which is now in excess of $100 per barrel. But the actual price that you will need to part with to get that barrel of oil is much closer to $150 than it is to $100. So there's clear manipulation going on. There's the running down of strategic reserves. Very dangerous thing to do going on. Trump himself said he only had three weeks left of oil at home and he was right about that. And that was at least a week ago. So the energy crisis already hammering the industrial economies of Europe, particularly yours in Germany, but everyone else's also is now compounded by Gulf energy crisis, both Gulfs Mandab and the Straits of Hormuz. It's going to bring about effectively the end and as you rightly say is the things that you get from oil that no one is doing. I mean most fertilizer people think fertilizer is, a boatload of fertilizer is extracted from petrol from oil. And if there ain't no oil, there ain't no fertilizer. And the planting season is upon us. And if there's no fertilizer, next year's harvest will be of course a very poor one. So the knock on effect of all of this are very considerable. I'm very grateful to you, Bijan. I'd respond more fully if I had time, but the hour is getting late. Some comments DT Gypsy sends US$5. Thank you. Trump's ego will not let him lose even at the cost of our country. When 8020 hamburger 2.8 pounds costs $25. Gas is $4 19 a gallon. It's unsustainable. And karaoke stars says George, maybe you should do a special and put your feet on the ground in Iran. Talk to the people, show the Moats audience the truth. It will pull millions of views. I have had millions of views for the visits that we have made to Iran. Our video from outside one of the synagogues in Tehran itself alone has received millions of views. Trvag Line says, remember, automatic registration for US military draft eligible men is to begin in December of 2026. And Holmfutcher says Khan enthusiastically pursued Putin but didn't give an F about Bush, Obama, Trump or Biden F him. And Michael Stevens says, as a Scouser, I feel ashamed that the waxwork mannequin Andy Burnham is bending over for the US war machine. He used Hillsborough to fool Scousers. Not all of us though. We knew he was a wrong un. He's a chancellor and he knows what I mean. Now let's take a moment to mention another group of top Moats financial supporters tonight. Jacqueline Biggs L. Findlay Hedge Aravid's daughter. That's ARV I Arvid S D O double T E R. Easy for you to say. Haj Arif's daughter, Tim Watson and Peter A. Baldwin. Your support through Moats tv, our website where you can easily leave a donation. What keeps this program independent, direct and live on air? If you want to join these heroes, please go to Moats tv. Click the Donate now button and we've got a hero, a legend on the line has not been with us for a few weeks. It's the legend that is Aerobus in New York City. City. Go ahead, Robos.
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Caller from Pennsylvania / Various Callers
Greetings and salutations and the Fidelity's facilitations to Clan Galloway. The Moats audience, the wonderful guests. I really appreciated the longer form interview, especially with Can't Wrinkle the Hinkle Jackson there. Really insightful. And you asked them pointed questions that would challenge most of us, if not all of us, especially if we had a high profile. Yeah. I myself am going through a period of what I call genteel poser homelessness. You know, my grandfather was a genteel poser. Even though he was Irish, Scottish and Venezuelan, he liked to pretend. He liked to pretend that he was a Londoner, you know. And yeah, it created a whole sort of fallacy, fake reality, which I think. But I'm going through a sophisticated version of homelessness. But it's still homelessness. However, I'm still here and I'm still plowing through. And of course, I must shout out the mighty and the wonderful giant, magnificent first of her name, well planted in life. She's been a, a real psychological and support mechanism for me with all where many others have failed. You know, you have to, they have to get paid to help people. That's the way the game goes in this nonprofit profit axis. Anyway, I wanted to take the time to say that I think that it's necessary and it's inevitable for a new Lebanon civil war, the last Civil War of 1975-1990, of which you know, well, birthed. Birthed the Hamas. Not Hamas, excuse me, the party of God. Right. The party of Allah, as they call themselves, Hezbollah. And I think now it's inevitable because the capture of the northern region of Lebanon by design has long been something that's been at hand and it's fully manifested now. I would urge people to watch, you know, when Al Jazeera was in its harm reduction mode and not as despicable as they usually are. There's the Sykes Pico Lines in the sand documentary, Free to watch. And yeah, it's very insightful. The San Remo agreement created this basket case that is modern Lebanon to be exactly what it is, and there's no way out of it except through the fires and the purging of war. And Hezbollah has avoided this because of their religious moral stance. But they can't avoid it anymore because it's going to come to them, it's coming to their doorstep and they're going to have to fight lest they'd be subsumed and taken over. And I don't see that happening. So, you know, I don't want to take up too much time because of course Guy treated a gracious Galloway lady G first of her name is on deck and I don't want to keep her too long, but I'm still fighting and they say my arms are too short to box with God, but I'm going to swing at him anyway. Maybe I'd connect, maybe I'll miss, but I got to keep fighting. Thank you Moats.
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George Galloway
What a man you are. Thank you Eerobos, for all the kind things that you said. And as it happens, I caught up today with your situation. We're going to do anything and everything that we can to repair that situation and to allow you to give a formal regular window on New York, window on the United Snakes of America, as you usually call them. And we'll keep everyone posted on that. Your contributions are really vital and important and none more so than the one you've just made about Lebanon, which, as you know, lies very close to my heart. Time does not allow me to analyze the situation in Lebanon to the extent I would like and to the extent that your contribution deserves. So I'll leave that for another night, if I may. But Lebanon will always be Minayuni in my eyes. I even speak Arabic with a Lebanese accent. If I speak Arabic to an Arab, they immediately ask me if I'm Lebanese. So it's really important, profoundly important to me. And you're right to say that important maybe dark, but important times are coming for Lebanon, indeed for the whole of the Levant. I'll have to say goodnight to you Robos, because I have to tell people about the Moats podcast before introducing Gayatri. You can scan the QR code now on your screen and download our podcast do rate it. And we're now in the top 10 for politics in Botswana, Kuwait, Nigeria and Uruguay, and in the top 30 for politics in the UAE, Pakistan and South Africa, where we'll be in the month of September. Details forthcoming. Maybe on Wednesday we'll be able to highlight where exactly we're going. Oh, I'm told that we can do it. Now, our program for the speaking tour of South Africa is apparently in the can, and if it is, it will appear on the screen now as it does George Galloway and his comrade, Yvonne Ridley. People Power Tour 2026 of South Africa, Pretoria Polokwane, Pretoria, Durban and Cape Town, all in support of the Imam Al Ghazali Global Relief Fund for Palestine. And there's the number that you can call for information, for tickets. It's 277-258-8-1231. Abdelkadar Kurta is the man on the end of that phone number. So that's in September for two whole weeks now, we didn't make it to 50,000, but it's still one of the biggest polls we've ever had. Which is the greatest threat to the world? The answer is the United States of America. Now, here's the woman without whom the news wouldn't be the news. Here's Gayatri. What's rattling Gayatri?
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Gayatri
Trouble in paradise. Thailand, Indonesia and the Philippines, to be precise. Starting with Thailand, where a group of Italian students were caught on camera at the Bangkok trains to be very rowdy and very noisy. And when a local Thai woman asked them politely to tone it down a little bit, she was met with very vulgar words and gestures. And on top of that, their teacher, their teacher added, sorry for bringing money to your country. Now, this caused such an uproar that the Italian embassy had to release a video showcasing these students and their teacher apologizing and asking for forgiveness and that they actually do respect the Thai people. Now, next stop, Bali. So, Bali, the island of gods and also of digital nomads, which is a very fancy way of saying colonialist with wi fi, because they come to a paradise island initially to find themselves, but finally setting up, staying there, setting up shop, and creating a state within a state where their world basically involves everything and everyone, like the same people back home in Europe. Now, the Entourage Club is one such initiative. It's like a silent disco running club in Bali. And it turns out that when you apply to join this club, but you're actually Indonesian, that is local, that is the host country. You are denied entry. Okay, so not only is this running club blockading the already congested streets of Bali, disrupting the many ritual ceremonies that the Balinese practice daily on the streets of Bali, they're outright racist towards the host country. Okay? Now, Indonesian immigration didn't hesitate and they deported and blacklisted the two individuals behind the club immediately. And these two were Dutch of all nationals. As if 300 years of plundering and extortion and exterrorizing wasn't enough. Finally, Sierragaon. This is a very popular tourist destination in the Philippines, but recently it's seen a growing amount of Israelis, ergo IDF soldiers. And it turns out out that they have plans to stay and settle, stabbing their Israeli flag wherever they stay, opening a religious Jewish center. And as for the locals, they receive abuse, harassment, physical attacks, of course, disregard of local law and order. And cafes, local cafes that show special solidarity with Palestine by showing the flag or watermelon displays. They get vandalized, the owners get assaulted. Now the local community, which is actually an indigenous community with this very small island, I mean, it's maybe only 100,000 people on them, they are showing concern that their island is becoming like a little Israel because of the amount of, of Israeli IDF soldier tourists that arrive there and stay there. And so they should be. And they're not the only one. Israeli tourists in Southeast Asia are the least favorable ones among the locals. And Israel spends millions on PR and propaganda campaigns. But of course you cannot whitewash the genocide and this dispute despicable behavior of them throughout these tourist destinations doesn't really help.
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George Galloway
Well, you've educated me and I'm sure everybody else on these three stories. It goes to show that colonialism is alive and well. And in the case of Israeli colonialism, it's not confined only to disinheriting the power Palestinian people. They want their greater Israel to be everywhere, even in the Philippines, all the
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Gayatri
way in the Philippines.
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George Galloway
I mean, I have known Israelis all of my life, really all of my adult life, since the 1970s. And whilst I have good Israeli friends and there are some outstanding heroes in Israel, although most of them are nowadays having to live outside of Israel as a whole, I think I wouldn't be defaming them if I said that the Israeli people are the most disliked people on the earth and for a reason. The reason is their extreme behavior everywhere that they go. The rudest, lewdest, most vulgar and aggressive people to be found anywhere. And the story you've just told about the Philippines, I mean, who could be nicer than the Philippines people? Who could. Who receives you with more hospitality and warmth than the Philippines people? And for them to be insulted and assaulted and effectively taken over, taken over by a new wave of Israeli colonialism is indeed a shocking and deplorable state of affairs. They've done it to Cyprus also by
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Gayatri
the way, not welcome there either. Not welcome there either.
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George Galloway
I mean, have they not got enough? Have they not caused enough trouble in the world? Are they not hated enough in the world? They've got to go out. I mean, what's the point in paying $7,000 for a tweet from an influencer to improve your your public relations when every day your own tourists are trashing your country, your own football fans are, every time they take the field, trashing your people more effectively than anyone else so minded could ever do? Well, but we've gone way over time, Gayathri, and it's very, very, very, very late or early according to your point of view. So I think we'll better say good night and we'll, God willing, be back with you on Wednesday with the midweek mother of all talk shows. By the way, last week 10 million people watched all or part of the mother of all talk shows. And considering it's run on a shoestring largely provided by you, I'm really proud of that. Stay tuned. See you Wednesday. Good night,
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Gayatri
Sa.
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George Galloway
It's the mother of all talk shows. It's the mother of all talk shows.
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Bijan
It's the mother
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George Galloway
of all talk shows.
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Jackson Hinkle
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